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I promise We are giving we have a huge promotion 50% off two programs and a bundle okay, so huge sale maps prime 50% off maps prime pro 50% off And the prime bundle is also 50% off go check these out go to maps fitness products calm Just use the code June prime with no space for the discount alright enjoy this podcast Hey remember when we all started it was recently We're all like we're all gonna get leaner and we weighed ourselves in yeah, what do you remember? What was my weight at was like 220 225 225 no no no because I was 225 you were it you I was 227 Yeah, and then I know I know I was you're heavy. I was 230 something You were the you were the middle it's like two pounds for me. Yeah, I was like I was like 223 I think I think is what you were like that right yeah, yeah, okay. Where are you are you guys know what you're at now? I haven't made myself. Oh, really? Yeah I mean, I haven't weighed in like a week or so, but I have an idea where I'm out Where are you? I'm actually I'm not moving very very much. I mean I dropped the initial right so I was 230 So I'm a lot different where I was I'm 220 Ten pounds. Yeah, I mean, but I've been hanging at 220 I got down to 220 pretty quick and then I've been hanging there trying to get down to 215 is where I'd like to be but it's Honestly, yeah, but you're doing a bit of a transfer. It looks like yeah, you look like you're gaining muscle kind of yeah You know, I mean I have good weeks and bad weeks. I mean I'm having this weekend I was Justin was saying in your glute area. It's really primarily there. Yes. Yeah, I've been Secretly doing hip thrust like you all time No, you can't hit for us as much No, you know what I'm at now right now so if I was around 220 that's pretty crazy I'm guessing you are 205. Mmm. That's close. I'm pretty good. That's really close. Oh, look how close I lost like 17 So, you know, what's crazy about this is the paradox of fat loss and this is especially for guys be a pain in the ass So today Eli came in right that's our our editor and he does our video and stuff and he actually does some pretty good Actually, you should check out some of our Videos on what goes on here behind the scenes. That's all you know logs Anyway, he comes in and he's and I'm working out and I've got the you know I've got the wife beater on or whatever and he naturally yes, that's my workout That's actually my always change. So he's he's a let me take some pictures or whatever. He's like, dude What are you been doing? I'm like I dropped about 17 pounds and he's like you did he goes You look like you gained weight like that's the paradox of getting leaner. You get leaner. I'm so mad. You feel smaller in a sweater That's for sure. I'm so mad. I didn't learn that till like 10 years. It took me. Yeah forever I know I was on a permanent bulk for the longest time and I don't remember what what made me get on a cut for the first I mean, I think it was the first time I ever felt like I actually had like really jumped up in body fat percentage I was always, you know pretty lean as a kid and Switched to leaning out and that was exactly what happened me. I started getting these compliments, man You look big. Yeah, and I'm like I lost 10 pounds. Yeah, I'm down weight and everyone's saying that Well, it's like actually you could see the muscle, you know, so it's like for me. It's usually like oh, I just have an arm Yeah But then now it's like oh there's muscles that are defined under the shoulder there Yeah, yeah, there's some there's a line Yeah, I was so caught up on weight and size as a kid I would measure my arms and I didn't care if the arm got bigger. It was a good thing, right? Yeah Yeah, but the biggest I ever got my arm ever was like a little over 18 inches when I get really shredded My arm will get down to 17 maybe even smaller 17 looks way bigger It looks way bigger because you're leaner, you know speaking of working out and I had to say dude I am and I remember a while back I mean it was it was quite some time that we got in this big debate about, you know Being a gym person and at home for I mean I have been lifting at home now For God we're going on over a year the most consistent. I've ever been lifting at home. Are you a home guy now? I know I don't want to go that far. I haven't I don't want to go that far yet because I can't be honest with you I don't I can't remember what it's like to work out in a gym. It's been so long It's been that long for me that this is the only option what I what I'm enjoying the most like and I Absolutely love that. I think you guys know I obviously I put a PR exit at the house now So what do you have you have the the fold out cage barbell weights you have dumbbells. Yep You have done that. Yeah, but we have the one with the multiple grips right for the pull-ups Yeah, I have the same one that we have in here except reminds solid black. So I'm jealous. I don't have that one Yeah, I went all I went all black on that and and then the weights are cheaper to go all black, too So, you know, they don't look as cool. So my help my home gym doesn't look as cool as like this one And then the in the truckie house, but it's a lot cheaper. I didn't realize what a difference You have the curl bar and I'm going all out of my next my next home version I do have I do so I have an adjustable bench and I also have the bench that fold by the way That's really cool, too. It's so convenient and it's nice I thought it would do it attaches under the cage Yeah, it goes it folds up against the wall and you can either leave it up like that or you can fold it out And I thought it would be a little janky to be honest with you like I thought you know a bench That's attached to the wall like that and fold not gonna be stable not gonna be stable the opposite is true And it's also a nice wide one which I like the wider benches So when you leave it folded up you can still use the cage for can you still use the cage for incline with you with you? Yes. Oh, so it doesn't get away for anything. Yeah, it doesn't get away at all So I when I roll the I roll the it doesn't go up though for incline, right? No, no, no, what he's saying is so I have two benches. I have the bench that folds down Oh, so you keep that up and then you bring the other and then I haven't got it would get in the way No, I was like, oh man, did they figure that out? No, I thought my head was gonna No, no, no, so I just I have an adjustable one and then I just rolled under there And yeah, no, it doesn't get in the way at all. So I only use it when I'm doing flat bench press Otherwise it stays folded up people don't realize what a big deal this is I've worked out at home gyms my whole life in a squat rack takes up a shit ton of space This is the pain in the ass with it because you got if you have a garage, you're not gonna park your car on there Well, that's so for me You know, I've won been a gym guy for so long not not really been in the at-home workout The other reason why I've never wanted to do a gym at home was because I have you know cars That I park in the garage and I want my cars in the garage like it's I'd much rather I'd rather that and go pay for a gym membership, but with this I can do both You know so the cars fit perfectly fine with the setup because I mean it literally no it's like this It takes up no space at all. Yeah, it's nothing. Yeah, what impressed me was the stability of it I might I mean here's the thing when you use a cage You want it to be stable and I've worked out long I remember I'm old enough to remember what cages for home use lifting big boy No, I'm old enough to remember what at-home cages were like and they were not the most stable It was like you're you're all right, let's pull we're playing this game Let's see what happens or you had to have this massive one that took up commercial Yeah, have your garage. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, the PRX ones I remember we first were about to work with them and then we installed them I was super skeptical and like let's see how it's more stable. Yeah, you're Justin you try this out first It's it's more this is hopefully this works out for me the PRX squat rack is more stable than the big Commercial power because it is anchored at the wall. Okay, so now you're working at home You're liking it more. What is it about working out at home that you're you're finding that you like? So what what's what is interesting is my trip? So I feel pretty good right where my physique is out right now No, we're near like where I'm where I want to be or where I'm heading But yeah, like a like a six and a half is what I feel like right now. Yeah. Yeah, what's a 10? Yeah, six and a half of the thirst 10 is what I look like when I'm on stage, bro That's 10. That's a dime. That's a dime piece No real talk though. What I my training is Really different right now like I I really am taking advantage of the whole at-home thing and not this Structured one-hour workout time. I'll do a few sets. Yeah, it's like I'll do that I'll do two exercises here when I get home. I'll do one exercise and I'll go do stuff with max come back later Do another one. It's really starting to look like kind of like your all-day workout, you know routine that you do any differences You notice I mean with the the mental part, right? It kind of messes with me It makes me feel like I'm not training very well, of course I think I'm not like doing a good job But then obviously I mean I'm paying attention tracking my physique and and I'm taking weekly photos volume total volumes Yeah, it's probably about the same or up right because I'm I'm doing it more frequently through the day and I don't it's weird It's a it's a kind of a mind-fuck because I feel like I'm slacking I because I'm like I never like really break a sweat a lot of times And I don't really get this massive pump sometimes and but because I'm just kind of just periodically going in the gym Go hit four or five sets of something and then go do something more effective It's pretty cool and it and that part of having a home gym I am really enjoying that and it the fact that I feel like I feel very Inconsistent about my lifting right now and that I'm able to maintain the physique that I have right now I feel really good. I mean, I'm guilty of doing the shirtless workouts. I'm gonna be honest At home only though And it was funny because we've done to just you guys are trying to literally like transform and change me I know what's happening here, but I was working out and I had my shirt off and I'm doing my thing And then Courtney'd like came downstairs and she's like wait a minute. Just stay right there And then she took her phone out and she like took a picture of me. Oh That's the first time that's Wait a minute wait a minute did she send that to Jessica, I think she texted Jessica You know like anybody wants to use it's fine. Yeah speaking of sex, you know This is actually moving from your conversation that you go had about the autonomous You know drone that was killing people. Yeah, did you hear that you can program the sex dolls to murder? Oh, I read this Did you read that article? They didn't say you can they said theoretically a hacker could get so it was here's the thing Right, you've seen all these hackers and what they've been doing with What was it lately was the red meat or the meat distribution like they've hacked the whole chain For that and they've also hacked the What was that with it with the gas wait a second back back up on the Hearing about this one. Yeah, that just recently happened like animal rights activists Yeah, and they fucked with the computer systems of meat So the slaughterhouses and everything else like that. They're all on the software and they hacked into their software somehow Yeah, well, so theoretically there's a lot of problems you think of so this is my you know crazy mind But think about autonomous cars mind. Listen in 20 years 20 or 30 years 100% Almost every car you'll see out driving is gonna be a self-driving Autonomous car people aren't gonna own cars like they do now It's just not gonna make any sense now think of like somebody who's in effect with really nefarious intentions Like a terrorist attack and they yeah, they hack like drive you off a cliff Yeah, like 50,000 at the same time all of a sudden during rush hour cars You know all over the place terrible That's why I keep it old-school, but I read that article. I mean, I'm a little more. I'm more afraid of the sex robot like I mean Driving off a cliff in my car is scary, too But I mean if I'm at home with my sex doll and she all sudden tries to cut my thing off like that sounds way Scary. Oh, you're having sex with it. It's Lorraine and Bob it starts to get rough. I like this. No new program What an embarrassing way to die We found Adam I worry about with any of this stuff and Neuralink and all these new things like we're oh, yeah Let's just put a chip in your brain that somebody could have access to it sounds sounds like it's safe Yeah, nobody also listen forget the hacking of the robot doll to make to make it kill you or whatever the robot fuck doll like Just having robot fuck dolls. Okay, that's gonna change Humanity more than people I think care to realize. Let's talk about the positive. Yeah, yeah, no more traffic All the angry guys out there the ones killing people and stuff dude. They're just can't roll off. Yeah, give him a robot Yeah, I just think no one's gonna go outside anymore. Look what video games did to kids. Oh real soon here now adults won't be out It's gonna be terrible kids will be in playing video games guys will be fucking dolls. No traffic That's what I see coming. So I'm excited. I'm for this. I'm pushing it It'll be it'll be like people will spend a lot of money on it for sure. What are you saving your money for? Well, I've got three master 4,000. I'm trying to get the I'm trying to get the next model Like Apple's gonna come out with a new one each time. Oh, you got the 12 like their phone scam This one orgasms every time doesn't matter what you do it or go. Oh my god. This one cleans your house, too Let's do this 10 grand down anyway. Yeah, that is kind of kind of weird speaking of weird I've been waiting for you to give us the lowdown on the Mayweather Paul Over the weekend. So I watched it. I didn't buy it. I almost missed it So I forgot it was coming up and then I Some some pops up in my feet and I'm like, oh shit That's supposed to be this weekend and they had it at Sunday Sunday night, which was just weird as in the first place So I thought that was really interesting that they did a Sunday. Why not Saturday? Yeah, which whatever though I mean, that's why I got it. So I wouldn't have been able to watch it if it was on Saturday. So I watched it and You Logan Paul went all eight with him, but it was a terrible was terrible dude There's no judges. They weren't gonna declare a winner no matter what no, they were yeah They would I mean it was still it was still it was an exhibition But there was not space knockout basically a knockdowns knockout so they would say yeah, but no points In other words if no knockout got it got it. There's no winner. Yeah. Yes. There's no I read This is what I read so I didn't watch it, okay But I read some controversy someone put up a clip on Twitter and it looked like at one point I don't know if you've seen this Mayweather hits him and he slumps over but Mayweather holds him up And then he comes to and so the speculation is that he the agreement was he was like a left hook that he Nobody knocking you know don't knock me out. So that is I saw that right so I watched that which by the way So there's did you guys see everything with showtime? They're streaming what because it was so overload I'm assuming because it was so overloaded. I only got like half the fight It was dropping every every minute and a half Every night so and Katrina got online to see like everybody was that so a bunch of people are demanding a refund Wow, and it's so annoying and when you sign for it You did the disclaimer is that they they won't give a refund for something like that if there was obviously the fight gets Cancel you can get a refund. They must have made a ton. Yeah, I know Mayweather supposed to make 50 million is what I heard or fight. Yeah, 50 million. No hundred or something like that after all the After everything else. Yeah, I think they they think they projected him Jake I mean excuse me Logan to make 20 or at least 10 to 20 and I think they projected Mayweather to make 50 I feel terrible for fighters for real fighters. Yeah, you know I'm watching this. I'm so frustrated So I have it rounds like so did he like Mayweather didn't even come out there like aggressively or was he Remember we talked about this this exactly what I thought was gonna happen. I mean Mayweather is notorious for this He is what he is known for long. Yeah, what he is known for is he's got one of the best boxing defenses in in the world ever I mean that was what he was so good at. He's so elusive and So if I always thought like even if Paul had a slight chance at one point in the fight He would just outdance him. I knew that would happen I was like so even if he gets hit one time and it kind of freaks out Mayweather Although Mayweather is just gonna dance and score points the rest of the time So I knew we were in for a fight like this now I was hoping and I think so was everybody that watched this was we get to see some sort of a At least a knockdown if not a knockout like you thought you get you come on You were one of the world-class boxer fighting a youtuber the least we should get out of this as a fucking You know a good licking right now fishy to me. It smells very fishy to me It smells like they made a deal and he said look here's a deal We'll fight. We're gonna make a shit ton of money. Don't knock me out, but let's make it competitive Let's have fun with it because guess what's gonna happen now the money goes up Well, the money gonna keep going if so long as the inevitability of these types of fights because it's all money driven There's no like a Purity of the sport of it. So I okay I mean obviously I was the one that was out of the three of us That was really predicting that this is where it's gonna go and I have to say that even being that person watching I'm a little I'm a little bummed for the sport because it's not it's definitely not going away And like you said this they were already talking about a second told you running it back Or his brother and so this is WWE and and it's crazy cuz we're gonna pay People obviously I mean they wouldn't do it if no one was watching and no one's paying I can't wait till a boxer goes in there whose pride is you know more important to him than his Wallet and he's in there and he says no, I'm gonna they're not gonna find one I'm gonna put exactly for a hundred million fine one. Yeah, they're just gonna get somebody that's Down and out and needs money and so they'll do it ever so what you're paying more So what you guys think it's I don't know if I subscribe to this so and my buddy thinks this too that you know They there was a behind-the-door handshake like you know, let's go out make it fun Let's make it fun, but let's not like try and really win or kill each other over this and let's let's go make millions I don't know if I subscribe to that. I mean I feel like yeah, cuz boxing's never done stuff like that before tell me It's not that it's not that I don't think for that reason. I really feel like I think I feel like Logan Paul was trying his hardest I feel like Mayweather and Mayweather said this like he didn't even train that hard this fight He knew that part of the story bro. I think it's part of the story I think he's gonna make shit up to set like because people are like, why didn't you knock him out? I didn't train I'm 44 second nature. I'm smaller. No, dude. I think exactly that I think they're looking at how much money think about it may what first of all He may be known as the most elusive Best defensive all-time one of the greatest boxers very smart business man Mayweather's known as being one of the best business Man in boxing I would not be surprised if behind closed doors They said how much money can we make off of two or three fights forget the one fight? How many much money can we make if we strike? How did it Adam? How did it stack against like Connor McGregor? Mayweather like what was the difference? Well, I when I thought was pretty entertaining. I did I thought McGregor was way more entertaining. Yeah, I don't think see I think the deal would have been different with McGregor because McGregor and him actual fighters and they're going in there See who can win. That's what I would say. Yeah, again I don't know how I did felt to me like Logan Paul was really trying It felt like Mayweather was just light years ahead of him skill-wise and knew that he could dance around him like you I mean to me. I don't know if it was staged which again. I don't think I would Being a betting man. I wouldn't bet against you on that by the way So even though I'm debating you a little bit right now I wouldn't put money on saying that you're wrong and I'm right in this situation. I didn't think it was staged I felt like it's exactly what happened You have a fighter like low who's not even a real fighter like Logan Paul and then you have someone like Mayweather Who is unbelievably skilled and talented and knew that he could go in there and just dance around him for a while And so he got in there and he sparred with him for that's exactly what I mean So I don't think it's necessary like all right round four. You do this, right? I think it's literally Let's go in there and the idea is let's see if we can make it Too bad exactly and then let's see what happens But I think Logan Paul was trying his ass off because I think I think that's a game Yeah, it could exactly benefit him exactly if he got him then oh my god would that open the door for a rematch He would open the door for him finding another real fighter I mean if Logan with it only it only doesn't pan out if if for Mayweather if Mayweather loses I mean Mayweather loses that that's that's the worst thing that could happen, right? I mean cuz then everybody's gonna get knocked out by Paul. There's no way And so that's what I mean nobody could knock him out and he fought the best of the best of all time No amateur boxers gonna knock him out his defense isn't saying I would you know what I would like to see I'd like to see Pacquiao in there with because he's a brawler and he's not gonna dance around He's gonna sit there and trade punches and that's a whole different fight in my opinion Mayweather is very technical totally different Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it matters, but at the end of the day This is a really interesting time in sports right now. I mean the fact that showtime signed Jake Paul now I mean you're talking about a Boxing I mean this was not they're not like the other organization that is you know into entertainers and they're going a different route I mean they there you now are so time is the time was boxing. That's right So show and they still are I mean they there's still that the main the main pay-per-view for boxing So you got to see them signing someone like a Jake Paul Just shows you that the tide is turning that they cannot ignore that the money. Yeah, they can't It's always been about entertainment and money. It's just always a way so then what happens Does this mean that like because you would rather see and this is true right now, right? Like you would rather see if you've got Will Smith Versus, you know name another person who's got a Chris Pratt or something. Yeah, right Like we all know who they are as actors and if they both were kind of picking up box I'd rather see that in her show. Yeah to regional or you know state champion, right? So and and they each have you know I was will Smith up to like 50 or a hundred million followers on Instagram or something I think and you know so and Chris Pratt probably up there, too Like, you know how easily they can draw You know enough people to pay the 49 bucks to watch the fight I feel terrible because here's the fight game. It's killing the sport Dude the fight game is crazy like you people and by the way, it's always been like it's only this sport though Because this wouldn't work basketball. Nobody gives a shit about Will Smith and Chris Pratt playing basketball It's because neither one of them have that skill. It would be boring to watch and but a fight Yeah, it's a fight. Yeah, I'm saying so there's and again listen boss It's always been like this in fighting like do you know how many things like Reddible CrossFit came in and then did that to Weightlifting. Yeah, it's the same thing. It is well, okay So it's in boxing. Do you know how many incredible fighters never got an opportunity to fight for the title because They weren't entertaining enough to watch or they were a bad matchup We see that with UFC many people say that about Conor McGregor that he got late He got handed a bunch of fights that now I don't know if I fully agree with that because he's he's won a lot of But supposedly, you know, he is avoided also the people that would have challenged But just here's the fight game is you train your ass off forever You get your head bashed in in training you fight your ass off And the goal is one day and it's a very small, you know Percentage chance that you're going to at one day make a lot of money doing this And so you're grinding you're getting your ass kicked you're crushing you're making dirt You're having to work two or three jobs to support yourself And then you see this YouTube kid go in there and make 20 million dollars with Mayweather, you know Like I would be so upset it would I don't know what I would I know it would frustrate me as an athlete But then at the same time too, you can't knock Logan Paul and his brilliance, of course. Oh, yeah Like kudos to him pioneers, right I mean for for build for building the audience they built and then to have the awareness to I mean I wouldn't even put it past this kid To have had the foresight to do this to know like listen I've got a massive Following if I pick up a sport like fighting and just start, you know practicing it get some good at throwing some combinations I could start calling out some other people and we can I don't know if he ever saw that it would end up being someone as Biggest Mayweather that he would get actually get that call or whatever, but I mean it's not that's not a bad strategy Aren't you seeing this now to in our space in the fitness space like the strongman We're like setting up all these fights now and you see Steffie Cohen and you see oh, yeah She did fight yeah these little exhibitions that they're trying to fight to cash in because apparently boxing now is the next thing Where people are getting a nice catch well It's the one it's this one sport that doesn't matter at what level you are it's always a fight It's a fight that's right You know I'm saying so that's where this is really unique that doesn't work with anything else baseball soccer football I mean I challenge you to pool Yeah If you're not good at it nobody gives a shit, but this is the one where if you're really bad at it You might get your ass kicked and so I'm curious to see you get your ass kicked So yeah, it's just like schoolyard playground like somebody call somebody out and you're like yeah Then everybody's like fine. I'll tell you what I thought was the the funniest thing about all of this was Logan Paul comes out and he has a Diamond chain Doug, maybe you can look this up so the guys can see this so look up Logan Paul's Necklace fight, you know, maybe that'll pop it up So he has this diamond chain with a gold plated Framed Pokemon card God Cool, dude You're making all this money This guy gets laid What kind of world do we live in he grew up with YouTube? Yeah, like he says that's his jam It's all about making yourself a parody, you know, I mean like how ridiculous can I make myself because that's what I mean Which Pokemon is that matters? It's a million dollar card. Wow So it's so he's basically showing off that he has a million dollar Exactly, it's the new gold grill. That's no it's exactly what it is I mean, that's been obviously popular forever is to do these crazy chains that are over the over the top like This is the but and again Pioneer, you're right cuz you who's good, you know, you know people are gonna do what's gonna be just creating a market just by doing That's right. Yeah back in the day back in the day boxers would buy like rare Tigers and animals, right? What are you gonna do next? Oh Kamiara's so Mayweather, okay, check this out Look up Mayweather Look up Mayweather's What he could his outfit that he comes out into so he was an all alligator skin Wow, so his outfit was over I mean literally these two guys came out with probably millions of dollars of jewelry and clothes on on them when they came up This is t-rex leather and then they come out Shit in the world, you know, there's there's rappers that are walking them down And so I mean it's it's gotta be so if you are like an amateur boxer you've been fighting for ten years I feel like it's the worst if you want to kill your TV. Yeah, I can't believe this happening. Oh my god All right, so speaking of craziness. I'm about to blow your minds right now Oh, please do like seriously blow your minds. You guys both watched army of the dead, right? Yes, okay, do you know the character that plays the helicopter pilot that girl? Mm-hmm, okay Yeah, Tique or whatever. She's a stand-up comedian. Yeah Tigo or something like that Okay, did you guys know that she was completely CGI in the home movie? Why the fuck out of here? She was not in the movie, you know, do you know who originally played that character who Chris delia? After the scandal they pulled during the sex scandal thing that was going on CGI'd that her over him Wow, and so the whole time I had no idea the whole time watching it you could do that Apparently you could do that dude. He got he got woke cleaned up. Just bro. Yeah, they wash the chick They straight up washed you away. They stall in him. You know stalling you do that, right? You have people wiped out in pictures after yeah, they literally Chris delia played that part that just blew my mind Yeah, Doug, maybe you can look it up army of the dead CGI actor or actress CGI'd her over it So Bautista never met this this person never met them because they never acted whoa, and I could not tell that's how good It was I don't know that it could not she didn't really interact with anybody I'm trying to think of some scenes Yeah, there's cross over the other siege the CGI and filmed it separately that she was is that Chris is that Chris delia in the back Right there. Yeah, yeah, they replace delia. Is it delia or delia? He's delia. Delia. I don't know. Wow That's crazy blew my mind So what do you have any ideas? So how far did you read this heart? It's crazy he gets screwed out of the money did he get I have no idea Well, I know they pulled him out of the movie in the in the in the so remember This is another thing that I speculated on the future of what we're gonna see Okay, and this is definitely the movement in this direction with CGI getting this good is in the future Tom Cruise will not even have to go show up to the movie. He just rent his CGI version of him right like once you have once you have an you own your brand your look like Everything about you the way you talk like so you can sell that right and I feel like market I feel like we're gonna see and imagine you could do multiple movies at once So imagine there's like a version and this is what the trend this is my prediction here Okay, this is what the transition will look like. Okay. Yeah, I speculate here Okay, this is what it's gonna look like. So Tom Cruise will have I'm just using him as an example because he's popular, right? but he will have a CGI Booking fee and then you'll have a real live booking fee and it'll be like crazy difference It'll be like if you just want my CGI version of me. It's a really cheap rate So like your low-budget films can afford somebody like a CGI. I'm gonna go crazy with this Samuel L. Jackson Him and Kevin Bacon, there's like, yeah Well, here's the problem with CGI now the way it works now is you still have to film all the scenes You're just in front of a green screen then they had screens. Excuse me, then they have to digitally Insert you into the movie. So it's not like you're not working now The difference is you don't have to be on location. You don't have to fly somewhere right all that stuff But I don't know if it costs more or less cuz CGI can be damn expensive. You've seen these Star Wars remakes And where you saw Luke even as young Luke coming in Yes And so there's ways that now that they can even just do the full CGI and just like take your voice and all that Kind of stuff and just organize it now. That's my prediction. Yeah, that's my prediction That's insane is that CGI is gonna get so good that you're not gonna have live actors at all That's I'm saying no, you're not even gonna have people's likeness You're gonna create the perfect character and then paramount is gonna own that character Well, you've seen people do that We pulled that up a long time ago on Instagram where there's accounts where there's just CGI like they just made up a character Yeah, they have like a following millions of followers, right? Yeah, so I mean, that's yeah, that's really what does that say? It says that they spent millions Digitally removing. Yeah, see they digitally removed Chris Dillia and then replaced it with this That's a crazy decision to make too. I mean they lost millions of dollars before they even released it Well, let's be good when they did the movie obviously Chris Dillia Nobody knew that he was texting or whatever Messaging underage girls that comes out whether it was true or not. It's so they're like we got a remove Well, nothing never I mean that that is crazy considering that they never proved it, right? I mean, did he didn't get in trouble? Did he I don't know. That's a good question. I don't think he did Didn't that's for sure. Yeah, so that's gotta be the ultimate like fuck you do you finish the movie? You're getting paid to do the movie and I like sorry. We're gonna take you out of it So that's what I want to do that I want to know if if that if he can counter see now Well, or if he still got his money, he probably still got paid. You think so I bet I bet you I wonder Yeah, you're right. See Chris Dillia get paid for army of death. I must have had to honor the contract Well, here's I wonder if it's something like this though I wonder if you get paid to do it and then you get paid if the movie makes a certain amount And so because he'd never actually showed him on screen He only made the amount to do the work and didn't make the amount to actually be shown in the movie Does that make sense? Yeah, or maybe those contracts don't exist because this isn't something that's ever happened before Yeah, I've never heard of that before. We're not weird where they remove an actor like that Talk about a bold move though to spend millions of dollars doing something like that. That's interesting Now what if his contract was avoided though, then that's a different story because that's probably what he would have been paid So then whatever like wow, but this does I mean this does point in the direction that this is where we're going with this CGI that you know The future may be less and less. I mean if you're an actor, it's got to be a little scary then, right? You're gonna get replaced. Yeah, you're gonna get replace you cleanly. Yeah pretty soon It's not gonna be actors that are gonna be paid a lot of money, but it's gonna be creators of CGI Characters, yeah, you're gonna be some kid with you know lives in your mom's basement really good with your computer I was watching a walley again with my my son. I love that move and I do just think that it's it's Looks like it's gonna be accurate. I just feel like that's we are heading in that direction They do a good job of depicting that the rascal scooters are still out there in full force It made me sad when I watched it precisely because I thought oh, this is a little too close I was at the mall in fact with Jessica this weekend We took the baby there to take him for a walk and to get him to go to sleep And so we're just in the mall and I'm noticing how many people are walking around on their phones And I'm like as soon as they make a screen that appears in front of your face that does all the stuff That's it. We're we're gonna be in crowds alone all the time Yeah, people are gonna be walking around and nobody's gonna see each other Well, this was my expert, too. By the way, I had to start tripping people again. Yeah, what do you mean again? Like when I was younger When did you stop doing that? The tough part is that I mean I there there's the other side of that man. I'm it's a it's pretty cool, right? So I mean I I went to DMV this weekend which talk about a fun weekend, right? Oh awesome. So that's a wonderful example of government efficiency. Oh my they love when you forget one little item So I show up okay 8 a.m. Is when it opens So I get down I'm like I'm gonna be there 10 15 minutes early So I drive all the way down to DMV line probably already out the door around the building twice Around the building twice. I've never even seen so so much technology. You would have thought somebody famous was there, right? So it was insane. So then I go and first of all fuck like I had asked so many people like where does this thing begin? And everyone's like pointing different directions. I finally find the back of the line So I it's like 10 to 8 it's finally 8 o'clock then the doors open some people are filing in I'm in this crazy long line That's snaking around 828 30 I get to the front line where I get handed a ticket that says come back at 2 p.m. Wow So I get a ticket. Wow Now luckily it was that far it now I had to drive so it's about 35 minutes or so from the house and so I had to drive down there Katrina was She was somewhere with Max camera where Max went and so I was like Okay, lucky I it's that far of a gap that it makes sense for me to come home and hang out with them And then come back it would have really sucked if it was like two hours later Then I'm like, what do I do? You know so anyways I come back at 2 to wait in line again for like an hour and a half and this time it This is what my point. It was to your point of you know phones and screens Everybody in line nobody is talking to anyone all of us are on our phones Yeah, you're standing in this line with nothing is DMV. There's nothing to the defense in that Environment, I think that thank God completely. No savior. I answered like a hundred and fifty DMs I can't remember the last time I cleared that many cleared everything. Yeah, I cleared so many DMs I don't remember the last time I got that many done because I was just standing in this line I had nothing now. Were you okay to get what you needed? So okay, so okay, so Jerry Had everything ready for me ahead of time So I told her what I had to do for my getting my license and all that so that and so she looked up on DMV She called down there. You need this form this this this had everything all printed out for me in a manila folder ready to go So I just had to go take my stuff, right? Katrina, you know, I told her I said listen I said DMV is like I rather get teeth pulled by the way than go to fucking DMV. Oh, literally I would rather I would rather know I would rather get teeth pulled I think I'm with you. Yeah, and so I'm I'm stressing to Katrina I was like, hey, did you do you know did you make sure Jerry went to she goes No, I actually got on and double checked her work because I know what a headache DMV is So I get all that I have I can't remember last time I have I don't get anxiety I have anxiety while I'm waiting this line because it's already been this all day long work deal If I forget one that's right And they only take in walk the only take walk-ins on Saturdays Otherwise, I got set appointments and appointments take like three months to get this get an appointment in here So I'm like I have all this anxiety of my whole day being wasted getting up there and then potentially like one thing Did you use blue ink? Oh, sorry Seriously like that now I'm about to go and I'm like freaking out like what happens what happens? I'm like, you know what Adam you just okay You got to win this this girl over right away, so you sit down So I totally like flirt bro like get up there She she sits me down and I sit down and it gets hot in here Like friendly for right so I drop the pencil I sit down and the first thing I say is like what it's a new DMV I go wow this this place is amazing. I'm like and you guys are all so friendly I've never been to a DMV that's like this just lying. Oh, she looks like she goes. Are you messing with me right now? I said no like I was walking I was waiting in line and like everyone's smiling and the every since you sit down everyone's friendly with them like this is such A great experience. I said my I've never I had to be honest with you I had a lot of anxiety coming here today and just already seen the way you guys are with your customers It's just amazing and I'm so flying oh So she's like oh, you know like oh, well, what can I do for you take it? Well, I try yeah It's like oh well I need to and I pull out all my stuff by the manila floor So I'd like to get my my license and stuff and if I can get my registration handled today if possible for transferring over here and She's like, okay. Well, do you have that? I'm like, yeah, if you have yeah, there she goes and your social security card Oh, and I go I could just tell by your face. You're oh, yeah I go oh that who carries that on that I go Oh, the the website didn't say I needed to have that me she goes Oh, oh, yeah, you need to have that and oh my god Now luckily you could see she could see the fit my look on my face Oh, I was just oh freaked out and then because we started my foot She's like well, do you have this maybe we could use this maybe we could use that You know and then I'm like, oh my god Well, let me call my wife real quick and see if she can email this over to me or what we can get or what will Work shows do you have an a w2 because you have a w2 I need something that has your legal name on it with your social security and needs been this she goes What about your you know 1099 for your tax return and I'm like, okay Well, I have I had my tax return, but I didn't have the form that I need to fill out Which is what she needed and so she spent like a good 30 minutes with me on the phone with Katrina like digging through our Email is to find something should have never done. Never never never DMV is not like that if you don't have something they literally go like oh you need that come back And they move on to the next person because they have a long line But because I swear to God because I started off the conversation turn on the atom. Oh, she was so willing to work with me And eventually Katrina found an email that was like an old w2 that I had that had my name and my social on it She took and she actually took my phone emailed herself then printed it off on the DMV When is DMV ever did some shit like never never she gets my phone. She emails herself She gets that she gets helped to come over to print it size it right like this is what happens And you have a monopoly if DMV was privatized no way they would survive a line around the blood whatever I go to this company over here. There's a way and the crazy board of what the crazy part of this is that I did this triple checked Jerry went back. I mean this is what Jerry's a badass, right? We all know that she is like on top of everything for us in this business Yeah, so she's already thorough as it is and then I was stressed out about it So Katrina's like I made sure I double checked I went on the website This is everything that you need and then I get up there and I'm missing what they need I'm like son of a bitch. I would not have been able to do that. I would have lost my shit. It worked out It's official. I'm good should have it in two weeks, but boy was that freaking yeah, but you're good now Yeah, yeah, I'm good now although to get I wasn't able to register the car There's a bunch of other loopholes which I like I said could you tell me everything that I'm gonna need when I come back here? What I need to do before is there an order? I need to have it like I took like these like super thorough notes That's what next time I come in to do that. Oh my god handle. Hey, have you when's the last time? I want to ask you guys this when's the last time you guys saw Sylvester Stallone Recent picture or video of him. Hmm. That's a good question I saw him on an interview like a few years ago. Maybe so I he's done the expendable movies And that's is he have social media. Is he on yeah, so he's on Instagram fit still He's on Instagram, and I haven't seen the guy in a long time And I was just on Joe DeFranco's podcast He asked me a question about Rocky because he's a big Rocky fan. He got me thinking about Sloan I wonder what he's up to that guy's 75 years old. You guys know that he's Looking at his Instagram right now. Oh, he looks amazing now The way he moves and the way he looks if you don't know his age you think oh man He's kind of moving a little stiff and old then when you consider he's 75 Boy, that's a miracle of Western medicine I tell you the hormones that that guy because I know he's on he's been on hormone therapy for years and years and years He also trains his ass off. He also eats right the dude is shredded muscular and just looks insane at 75 years old He looks crazy. There's something to all that he finally surpassed kitchen sink and everything You know there was always this whole thing between him and Arnold and Arnold was obviously, you know, Mr. Olympia, but now he looks way better than yeah I don't kind of let himself go for a bit But then he started coming back because he was gonna do more movies again And so he's stored sort of getting back in shit, but if you watched alone, that's just always been sure you watch his workouts He's strong He's mobile especially when you consider his age. He's got really good mobility good strength. Oh, he looks phenomenal It's insane. He looks phenomenal phenomenal. Yeah for 70 something years old. That's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy to me speaking of movement and mobility Organifies I want to make this announcement Organifies having a promotion for their move supplement. Oh, you really like that. I think you used it the most I do and it's really really good. So it's really good for reducing inflammation improving mobility in Combination with a good mobility program It works wonders, right? You don't want to just take something reduce inflammation Then you're like, oh, I feel better You need to correct the issues that are the root cause right but in combination what it does It allows you to do better mobility and allows you to move that you need, you know move We take that like at the end of the day Typically if you're gonna take it after like a hard session of training. No, I don't take it Specifically around training, but I do take it a couple times a day Especially when I'm noticing that I'm a little stiff But what they have right now is what's a promotion the next two weeks I believe you buy one bottle and you get one free. Oh nice So it's the organify move buy one get one free Look at the ingredients turmeric arctic pine bark as the xanthin holy basil. Yeah, people get mad I'm too long. Is there like basil and there's holy basil. Yeah, it's like basil. Listen, it's holy. It's blessed But it's blessed. No, holy basil is a it's divine You know why that's funny to me because remember you used to make jokes about like we were making fun of different supplements And it's like this is blessed whatever monk fruit, whatever Make jokes about that so to see like something named holy basil on that I think I think it was called holy basil because it was valued among spiritual practitioner. Is that real? Yeah So Ayurvedic medicine uses holy basil quite a bit Ayurvedic is a big Supplement or urban begin the spices. Are you gonna call bullshit dog? What's that look for? I'm not gonna call bullshit I think holy basil is also the Thai basil that you'll get in your like Thai curries and things like that. Oh interesting Yeah, interesting. So it's a Southeast Asian basil. I believe I did not know that But yeah, I know that they use it in Ayurvedic medicine and it actually helps balance out stress It's got some adaptogenic properties, but all those ingredients none of them are like You know ibuprofen or aspirin it doesn't work that way It actually helps your body balance out is inflammatory process. So it's a healthy supplement So I found like the a real manly show for you guys because we've been talking about you guys Talking about chick shows like up the yin yang, right? Like which is great. That's fine But it's really hard to find a good manly show. What's a manly show? Okay, so watch long mire So it's basically it's about this sheriff in Wyoming who you know Has all these like crazy murder cases and all this kind of stuff that he's trying to solve But it's just like it's a depiction of a real like one of the last kind of like manly dudes out there Like there's just no all these depictions of men now are so weak and pathetic. I'm sorry, but that's true They're just the the the one that you're kicking aside like oh, yeah, that was great. You know like yeah It's always like pathetic, you know, so so anyways, he's a strong character. He's he's he's masculine and it's cool Wow, there it is talking about masculine and so you're you posted a picture of your no-no, right my grandfather Yeah, the him with the tire that was like a manly photo. It was it was in the 1950s I don't know what the year is it's him and his brother they're in Venezuela He actually went to Venezuela from Sicily because they there were opportunities there to start business So he went there before he came to America and they had a tire shop And so it's a picture of him with his brother standing in front of the tire shop and it's funny when you look at those old pictures They were in their early 20s. Maybe even late teens, but they look like it's way older It's because old pictures do that or either that or because the guy had been working hard labor since he was a child So you might be 20, but he's actually 40. No, I have a different theory on that I think it's because like and it really started I feel like our generation was beginning of this but kids like Dress and do a lot weirder shit than kids back then. Oh, you were like there wasn't like when you were kid you were in the They're more stoic back in the 50s. You were proper Everybody had very similar haircuts. You dressed very similar like this generation. It's the opposite If you're young adolescence is stretched out you look you I mean But you when you're young though like when you're in your 20 like you're 20 now You're pushing the boundaries with haircut piercing tattoos the way you dress like you live with mom and dad You just when my grandfather. It's true when my grandfather was 13 you think it has to do with their haircuts. I think it's all that Okay, fine. You're connecting two different things. No, no, what I'm saying is When I'm saying they live with mom and dad. I'm like well They cut their hair different and they're in a different shit What I mean is well my grandfather in that era when you're 22 years old you have a family you have a mortgage You have your career now 22 year olds don't have that 22 is right Okay, I get you and I still be on my mom and dad's insurance because I don't have a job You know type of deal so you can fuck off more. Yes Adolescence has got stretched out for sure Yeah, but I think that's the reason why those pictures look like that is because they are even at 20 you're already Dressing prop looking like you're in your like a 30 or 40 year old today, right? Because to a 20 year old today. I feel like stands out like a sore thumb compared to a 40 year old Oh, you should hear the grant my story the stories He tells me of those days and he when he was in Venezuela with his brothers members eight men eight brothers and He's like, oh, yeah, I was like what was it like living over there because you're not in your country Oh, it was hard a lot of fights. I'm like, what do you mean a lot of fights? Oh, yeah We fight almost every day we get in a fight with people because they say something to us and you punch him in the face And I'm not gonna this guy's face off. I'm like all the time like that. You had to find was all yeah all the time He's that's what it was like, you know, holy cow, man Hey real quick. I hope you're enjoying the podcast head over to mind pump free calm We've got some new giveaways for all of our listeners all totally free again mind pump free Calm all right enjoy the rest of this podcast our first caller is John from California. What's up, John? How can we help you? Hey guys So I have a couple questions centered around the central nervous system and in kind of still making progress in terms of strength and Aesthetics without overtaxing the CNS. Okay. I don't know if that's actually possible especially In terms of maintaining compound lifts, but in terms of context I lifted bodybuilder style pretty consistently since high school I picked up rock climbing about a year ago And I'm in my mid 30s now. So I'm really finding it difficult trying to balance training for climbing and kind of Maintaining that physique in that volume It's still pushing like the bigger lifts like at least the big three I've been pulling back resistance training for the last year trying to find a better balance between Climbing training for climbing and actual lifting My theory is it's CNS rather than like muscular fatigue or tendon and ligament fatigue So the question or the biggest question I have for you is is there a way to improve strength or aesthetics? without overtaxing the CNS and I'm thinking of maybe doing like a big foundation day with the big three and then trigger sessions the other six days I Don't know. I'm kind of just trying to figure out how to program around four days of climbing Okay, it's four days of class to ask how many how often that's a good question So four days and I'm assuming at least an hour or longer. You're climbing for Probably 90 minutes and then I'm calling it climbing, but there's also training for climbing things like that I'm calling those four days climbing days, but some of it is just like pull-ups with I mean heavy weight pull-ups on On Olympic rings stuff like that. So those are my pull. I like his idea Yeah, no, you know, so here's the thing you asked if you can make aesthetic progress without hammering your central nervous That's the only way you can make progress is without taxing this So it doesn't matter what you're doing if your CNS is fried, which by the ways is important Your CNS gets affected by much more than just exercise any stress will affect your central nervous system So lack of sleep a too restrictive diet stress in your life crazy Girlfriend. Yeah, that'll kill your CNS, especially the crazy girlfriend part But but no all joking aside the only way you'll make progress is if the CNS is recovered and you feel good So here's what I would do with you if you're my client first off on your your climbing days I'm assuming you're doing a lot of volume a lot of frequency, but not going to failure Which is a good thing, right? You're not treating it like a bodybuilding workout. You're practicing your climbing skills It's just lots and lots and lots of repetition and movement, which is good For what we're talking about. I think one day a week of resistance training And I would focus entirely on three exercises or four exercises compound lifts Here's the other thing to improve your climbing ability. I don't know how important it is for you to be a good rock climber You might want to limit the amount of size you put on your legs one thing You'll notice with really really good rock climbers They don't have huge legs Huge legs tend to be a detriment because obviously you have to pull that weight up But aside from that literally three or four exercises compound lifts on you know one day a week don't go to failure You're doing the climbing and then instead of trigger sessions will probably bring in more value is mobility So I think that'll help the most I would do shoulder mobility wrist and hand mobility Because those areas tend to get hammered a lot with the climbing well It makes the most sense for you climbing right but for aesthetics I the trigger day I mean I like your strategy I mean, I think it's a it's a good place to start and then there's nothing wrong with Molding that as you go along like let's say for example, you're running the one foundational day And then you're doing the six trigger days and you find that the trigger days are actually Impeding on your climbing skills and then I then I would switch over to more mobility work like salad saying or maybe you split half Mobility half trigger days and play with that a little bit But I think overall your strategy in the direction you're going with just one main foundational day with you know Scattered trigger or mobility days to replace the rest your training because I mean when you when you say aesthetics Aesthetics is a lot of times to just being lean, right? So you don't necessarily need to get much bigger You'll be if you lean out what you will do if you're rock climbing and you're eating eating healthy because you're exercising that much You'll you'll look good, you know So it's really about how much muscle you want to allow yourself to build to not hinder your rock climbing Yeah, and one more thing if you know because I know you're doing a lot of pulling, right? So you may think that you're you want to avoid a compound back exercise for your lifting day I would definitely avoid any weighted pull-down or pull-up movements because you're doing that so much But don't neglect rowing one of the imbalances that I've seen in my in my experience with rock climbers Is they get very very strong lats, but sometimes they get forward shoulder because of the lack of rhomboid and mid trapezius strength that matches it so Rows really focusing on pulling the shoulder blades back would help balance that out a little bit and maybe prevent shoulder problems that tend to plague Rock climbers Okay, so stick to the big five for that foundation day and then Mobility or trigger sessions the other six days Have you guys ever talked about a trigger session for abs specifically? I haven't seen that anywhere I mean you can do it for any body part, but if you want to do it for abs I mean I would go crunches active planks. You could do rotation with With a band, you know get some obliques, you know some chops I mean really any exercise that's low to moderate intensity. Yeah trigger sessions should be Recuperative so that's really where I would figure out like how many of these to structure in if it is You know providing that that type of like rest recovery element to it Otherwise I would then shift it a little bit more towards mobility if it is impeding on that at all, but It for for what you're describing. I think that it all sounds pretty pretty It's a great place to start. Yeah, I think it sounds pretty good to me Yeah, no, it's a great I think it's a great strategy where to start and then you just and I don't care how Experienced all three of us are I would still have to probably change this based off of the feedback you give me so Yeah, I would be looking I'd say hey this is what we're gonna start with this based off your goals Would you tell me I think you're going to modify it as you go. That's right Yeah, if I try to be greedy hypothetically Because I used to be like a five day six day week kind of guy if I try to bump two foundation days and just hold those Ideally like like anabolic style. Ideally you would space those out as much as possible, correct? Yeah that signal loud I would but more isn't better So keep that in mind just because you can do more and tolerate more does not mean you're gonna get Faster and better results. In fact, you might actually get slower results So sometimes we confuse how much we can tolerate with ideal amount Because there's a like a bell curve, right the right dose will give you the best results You might be able to tolerate more which is fine if you're trying to increase your work capacity and You know, maybe stamina and that kind of stuff, but if you're looking for aesthetics Doing more is not going to get you better. I get you there faster If you were going to do that This is what I would do so before I went and like mirrored that first So I'd have like the the foundational day first like your strategy is perfect, right? And then let's say you want to get greedy and you want to push a second My second like quote-unquote foundational day would look more like a focus session day So I would pick more isolation exercises Here's where things like the leg press and leg extensions and leg curl machines. This is where they would have a lot Yeah, a lot of value here So I would actually you'd have your one big day Which is your compound lifting which is going to be the deadlifts the squats the overhead press bench press rows Those are the big movements you're going to do on that one day And then if you're feeling good and you're like, okay, let me try and add another day Do like a pump day, right? Yeah, do more of like a focus type session from like aesthetic Which is more like your isolation exercises machine exercises and first see how that handles your body handles that before trying to emulate another You know compound lifting day like your your first foundational day. Does that make sense? That makes a lot of sense. I what I've been programming right now is I've been programming a monday wednesday The big five or the big four because Sal's right. Actually, I've been neglecting pull Because by default I'm technically hitting four climbing four pull days So I was trying to push and leg on My foundation day, so I'm glad Sal actually said that I'll include that fifth I'll include the fifth big lift the pull movement. Awesome. Thanks for that. Thanks for calling john Thanks guys. I appreciate it. No problem Have you guys ever worked with the rock climbers? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, definitely And I mean obviously smart guy and I think he's On the right track. I mean and again One person this may be too much volume another person They could handle adding another day in there and we wouldn't know that until we start testing Yeah, it's it's amazing when your intensity is moderate The amount of volume you can eventually work up to is tremendous, but when your intensity is high Boy, do you get limited? But yeah with rock climbers what I would notice the issues I would have to focus on were Forward shoulder because it'd be so many pull downs or pull ups I should say they get these really powerful lats and then they'd get they kind of have this imbalance with the mid-back And so you see this forward shoulder quite a bit And you know, that's okay for rock climbing But it's not when you start to notice shoulder problems or shoulder pain So I would have them do stuff to kind of retract the scapula and then hand and wrist mobility because obviously they're using the hand so much Oh, yeah, lots of mobility needs to be attached to that It was interesting with rock climbers like how strong like how loud a signal they can get from their cns Because it's so demanding on the body people don't understand like how demanding that is like all the way to your fingertips You know in terms of like being able to shuttle You know that that type of recruitment and strength So, uh, I love rock climbers because they're they're they're easy to kind of mold into a good strength Program, yeah, they're isometric strength. There's always it's crazy Our next caller is abby from wisconsin abby. How's it going? How can we help you? Hey guys, uh, thanks for taking my call I just wanted to say that um, I love all the content that you guys put out and I share it with my clients and everybody that I love so my question today is um, one thing that I've noticed when I start to um, when I'm on the first couple days of my menstrual cycle I feel like my lifts are definitely not I don't feel as strong in those first couple days That I usually do when I go through any of my programs, um I just started I'm actually in the third phase of maps aesthetic And one way that I've kind of noticed that I'm not feeling as strong is I With watching my numbers, um, the numbers will kind of dip on the those first couple days Kind of towards the end of the week there. I noticed I start to gain some of that strength back um, I guess what I was looking for was maybe some suggestion on Either anything to change in my diet or anything for supplementation Um, I do track my periods. So I know that's um, it's pretty accurate. So I know if I change anything I can really kind of tweak any of the days that I need to I'm also not on any birth control. So I don't know if that makes a difference. So, um Yeah, just wondering what you guys had for any suggestions for that Super super good question also very common. So the first thing I want to say is this in this It trumps everything else. Okay, and this is for men for women People who men straight people on birth control doesn't matter At the end of the day the thing that trumps everything is to listen to your body So if you feel more fatigued or less strength or your recovery Is reduced and this could be the result of I mean a million factors, right? It could be Lack of sleep. It could be stress It could be diet and then in your case you seem to be tracking very closely It could be hormonal changes Always listen to your body. All right. Now. Let's get a little more general Let's talk a little bit more generally in terms of the the the cycle that a woman goes through And hormones change quite dramatically Through the month and so with that I would say the best advice I've ever gotten I talked to Dr. Jolene Brighton at depth with this We've actually had her on the podcast a couple times and I talked her off-air off on this because At one point I had an idea to create a program Based around this so I actually actually asked her quite a bit of questions And dr. Jolene Brighton as you know is an expert on this particular subject And she said you know one of the best things you could do is Go with the feelings that you have during your cycle So a lot of women will notice their appetite will increase and will have more energy During ovulation in the beginning phases. They may notice that their energy is lower They may notice their appetite drop And so basically what she's saying is exactly what we say which is listen to your body. So In those phases where you feel stronger You feel more energy go ahead and push yourself a little bit harder In those phases where you feel like your appetite is higher like oh, I've got stronger cravings Eat more good food. That's okay to bump your calories On those days on the times when you feel like you're you're just not as hungry It's okay to reduce your calories and then when your energy is lower Reduce your intensity reduce the the weight that you're lifting at the end of the day This is going to it's not going to impact your gains or your progress In any you know negative way of fact if you follow your body You'll get better results and better progress than if you try to counter it You know if you say to yourself gosh, I feel like I'm not as energetic today I feel like I'm you know my my strength is a little low But I'm supposed to push the intensity. So I'm just going to push the intensity anyway That's the wrong approach So follow what your hormones are telling you because there's a lot of good information there. So you just have to listen to it I definitely would uh make sure you are following uh, dr Brighton so julien brighton Dr. Becky Campbell and then laury christie king. I think those those three. I think are some of my Three favorite ladies that speak to this top. Gabrielle lion. Oh, yeah. Yeah, dr. Gabrielle lion Yeah, dr. Gabrielle lion, too. I'd add her in there. So those are four friends of ours that are Really uh experts in this field and arena. They speak to it a lot on their social media So if you're not following them, I do recommend that now So I had a question for you that I use I can't remember where I read this but Um, I did read that it it's not a bad idea to try and uh replenish like iron at these times because the the red The red blood cells that you're losing and so I would have clients do like a Spinach salad with like raisins and stuff in it. Do you see value in that? Or have you heard that? Well, so it's it's obviously women tend to be anemic far higher rates than men because they lose blood On a regular basis. In fact for men, they actually recommend men give blood sometimes because we build up too much iron But I you would need to get a blood test for this because it wouldn't make a difference if your iron levels are fine This is not all women. Uh, but yes iron B vitamins can also make a big difference, uh for some women But it depends it depends on the person and something you can do is if you have a pretty good Physician a pretty progressive doctor You can ask to have these things tested and then I would test them Make sure you test these nutrients at the heaviest part of your cycle because It doesn't make any sense to test it when you're feeling great or whatever So time it time it for when your flow is heaviest when you're probably highest risk for nutrient deficiency And then in which case if you do see like oh your borderline Anemic during these periods of time during the month in which case supplementing with iron Even just cooking with a cast iron skillet, you know, a lot of people don't know that's the advice I would so obviously I'm not a doctor and I would never recommend something like supplementing for something without finding out details But I I always felt that okay It wouldn't hurt to tell a client like trying to have a salad that's iterative Yeah, yeah spinach and raisins like you're not gonna probably do any damage to somebody by doing that Even if I don't see blood work So I thought that was always like a decent advice, but you're right I would definitely before you go take an iron supplement definitely go see yeah Because the thing here abby that I'm always cautious of is I could tell you okay during the luteal phase of your period You should do this and during that whatever The problem with that is individual there's an individual variance, you know, there's always so you know There's definitely this general truth with it But I don't care if the book says you're supposed to feel a particular way if you don't I'm not going to train you That particular way so at the end of the day the advice is always I've had female clients that feel like superwoman during this time And then I've had the complete opposite women feel like I don't even want to get out of bed So there's that much of a spectrum here that that listening to your body always trumps everything totally. I hope that helps abby Yeah, definitely. That's uh, that's definitely helpful. All right. Well, perfect. Thanks for calling Awesome. Thanks for taking my call. No problem Boy, you want to talk about the differences between biological men and women? Just look at the hormone changes that swings that a woman will go through every month We're like the same all the time and we are you know, it's like this doesn't matter what day it is Whatever it's like always the same. Yeah, but their hormone profile changes radically Throughout the month and you know, you it's even more important to listen to your body You try and be hardheaded about what you're doing, but you're not listening to the fact that I mean imagine if as a man Some days your testosterone was through the roof some days It was super low and growth hormone was different and insulin was there like, you know, you would have to listen to that Right. See what your your body feels like. What are you about to say? No, I'm not gonna say I know you're uh, he's resisting. There's a joke there for sure I'm holding back, dude. I'm trying to be professional I know you are. I can see it on your face. You're going you're talking about how much the hormones fluctuate for women How inconsistent it is Just it's about to say some shit right now I'm gonna hold out as three teenage guys. No, I don't know. I could just see on this face I definitely think you should follow the those four ladies though. I think they're all very very smart And they they they center a lot of their content Around questions like this there. I think they're much much smarter than I am an experience in this area Yeah, like you brought up there's there's just factors like that even with like heart rate variability Yes, you just see these things that it fluctuates all over the place for people And if you're just trying to to go Do this general type of programming and be consistent with it You have to adjust and you have to adjust on the fly based on what your body signals I'm telling you and what I love so much about dr. Jolene bryton is she talks to this because people are so Girls are totally, you know, uninformed. In fact, they'll go to the doctor And tell them oh i'm feeling really tired or I'm feeling a little bit more emotional or my and the doctor will be like we can fix that by putting you on Birth control or antidepressants or whatever. This is oftentimes very natural cycle And so it's good to be educated. So you think you don't think to yourself what's wrong with me But rather this is normal. I'm supposed to feel so wasn't that the motivation behind beyond the pill Which was Jolene's book. Yes, it was. I mean that was the motivation behind it. Absolutely Our next caller is nick from maryland. Hey, what's up nick? How can we help you? Hi guys, thanks for having me on so um as I've been doing more strength training over the last Four or five months or so I've begun to develop my ulna bone seems to uh experience a lot of strain It's only on one wrist. So I don't know if it's a overall structure thing or if it's a muscle imbalance Um, but as I've gotten stronger, I've noticed doing like straight bar bench and things like that On the bone seems to push out which turns my whole hand inward now Um I haven't had any injuries on or anything like that. So I'm not too sure what the origin of it is But somebody suggested it needs to be more of a wrist stability strengthening solution Yeah, nick. So so uh, this is common when people are utilizing a grip that is not Ideal on the bar. Okay. So first off you want a full grip You want a tight strong grip you want to keep your wrist strong straight, which means You may not be able to lift as much because you might be you might be you know, you might have gotten used to A particular grip which means you're stronger with a grip. That's not beneficial. So change the grip But here's what I would do first First thing I would do is I would void barbell and I would stick to all dumbbells and I would maintain a real straight Strong grip that doesn't that doesn't cause pain in my wrist wait till the pain subsides Then when you go back to barbell work go much lighter And get used to a different grip on the bar or wait, it doesn't hurt your wrist I would also try something that's uh, pretty unconventional If you have access to kettlebell you're gonna go same place with bottoms up press just because It's it's so revealing as to where you know, you're not properly stabilizing You don't have the strength to keep that Nice tight fist Because it's going to be moving on you. It's going to be moving left to right. It's going to be moving front to back It might even try to rotate on you And so you have to account for that while you're pressing it up Super slow and this is a very challenging exercise on its own let alone somebody with wrist issues So I would go very light And really like try and work on that for quite some time until you feel like you have a solid You know stable grip with that. I love that recommendation because that was the direction I was going to go the other Just I don't know there's names you would know the names better than I would There's good indian club exercises too. I don't know if there's uh, there are the wrist rolls and different types of casting movements that you can do with with the indian clubs And and basically you can roll your wrist and circles, you know different different directions So there's plenty of that plenty of videos on that. I think I've even done some of the videos on that as well But that would be very helpful for you as well. Yeah, so nick the thing you're going to want to Be careful for because it's going to be very tempting To wear wrist braces and wrist wraps So that you started with wraps now. I've gotten so used to it. Yeah Yeah, because what'll happen is it's just and I know why it's tempting, right? You don't want to go lighter So you're like, oh man, I'm lifting this much If I wear the wrist brace or wrist wrap I can continue to lift heavy and do this lift But I caution you because if your wrist continues down this path I mean your hands connect you to everything you do with resistance training for your upper body And even for some lower body stuff I've known people who can't squat because of wrist problems because they can't put their hand back on the bar So I would say go with dumbbells Go lighter and and start to get used to a different grip a strong straight grip And don't worry you'll event you'll get back to where you were before but then you won't be limited By wrist pain anymore. By the way, this I experienced this myself for a long time for a long time I pressed With a thumbless, you know, what they call suicide grip my wrist would be bent back and I ended up getting good at it And if I did another grip I had to go lighter So I was really hard headed about it And I did what you did is I put the wrist wraps onto the whole thing And it just became a big problem and it's like, okay, you know I want to be able to work out without needing all these aids on my body So I had to back off it took me a few months But then when I got back to where I was and then I surpassed it and I was able to surpass it with better biomechanics All right, cool. Thanks for calling in nick Yeah, thank you. Thanks for having me. No problem. All right I knew Justin was gonna go that direction That's a good one Really tempting when you're working out and you notice a little bit of joint pain and you're hitting prs And you're like do I work on mobility or do I just put on a knee brace or do I work on mobility? Or do I just put on wrist, you know wraps or whatever? It's really just was a big problem for me when I was younger I mean, I maybe Justin's the only one out of us that didn't do this as bad. I definitely did this with everyone was everything He wasn't strong enough to have I stayed in the lightweight range of the gym. So I was just fine Yeah, no, it's I mean very common This is one of those things that especially do a lot of barbell work and you're not addressing these things right away It's just going to catch up to you Just like with the shoulder like any kind of position that's not ideal You're going to end up inevitably hitting that wall where it's going to talk to you with pain Our next caller is jacklyn from ohio. Hey jacklyn. How can we help you? Hi, I just wanted to start by saying thank you just like everybody else does I've really enjoyed your content and have definitely been utilizing your expertise that you guys put out there Thank you So yeah, thank you. It's commendable what you guys are doing for the fitness industry awesome So essentially my question is while i'm cutting Should I be focusing on the absolute muscle? Number versus the muscle percentage because although I have a science background So I understand the differences, but I was just curious which one I should prioritize While i'm cutting and if it's a bad thing that one's going down and one one's going up or vice versa Yeah, no, this is a great question. Okay, so for somebody listening right now That's like what is she talking about? Okay, so Absolute number would be total pounds of lean body mass, right? Percentage would be a percentage of your overall body weight. So Let's say somebody loses 10 pounds on the scale, but loses two pounds of muscle So that means eight pounds of body fat. They lost two pounds of muscle But as a percentage of their overall body weight their muscle mass Percentage may go up because it's a percentage of your overall body weight. Okay, so This can be confusing because with body fat. It's very clear What you want to look at with body fat is percentage total number Is not that big of a deal It's percentage that matters because you know body fat on a 200 pound man If you slap that on a 100 pound man all of a sudden same body fat now makes that person much Fatter because they have so much less lean body mass But when it comes to muscle, it's a little different Total makes a big difference if you lose two pounds of muscle you lose two pounds of muscle You've lost two pounds of metabolically active Insulin sensitive glycogen storing strength producing Tissue, right? So even though the percentage Of your overall lean body mass goes up you still lost some muscle. So when it comes to muscle Percentage don't worry about that. Look at percentage of body fat But what you want is you want lean body mass total number to go up now There's one thing to be careful for which is when you're looking at lean body mass That's all non fat mass. So that means if your water weight goes down Lean body mass obviously Measures as going down as well and this will sometimes happen with body fat tests where You'll get tested and if it if it doesn't test water in your body and Then it may look like you lost lean body mass, but really you're just not holding as much water Especially if you go from a higher carb to a lower carb diet So this is us talking about a cut right because that makes a difference if you're on the bulk I'd also be careful just chase chasing the total the total number then because that's as long as it's lean Right, but that but you if you're chasing the total number on a bulk You got to be because then you turn into like the bodybuilders what happens all the time, right? Where they just they bulk and oh man, I've added three pounds of muscle four pounds of muscle 10 pounds of muscle Then you got to look at body fat percentage, right? All right, so which depending on the direction you're going depends on how I'm looking at this, right? I'm looking at this like if I'm on a bulk I'm I'm careful not to be putting on too much body fat percentage As my total numbers going up because you could add five pounds of muscle But if you had to put on 15 pounds of fat to get those five pounds of muscle I'm I'm kind of over yeah You have to consider body fat percentage with either one body fat percentage is always percentage That's always going to be what you look at whether you're gaining or you're losing But when it comes to muscle forget percentage of lean body mass look at total muscle or total I should say because it doesn't measure muscle rights lean body mass look at total lean body mass So percentage for fat for lean body mass total number is what's important So as you get leaner Or or lighter on the scale, but you notice you're losing three or four pounds of lean body mass So long as it's not water and you know, it's probably muscle You're going to notice some negative effects from that you're going to notice maybe less strength slower metabolism You know possibly for example, so always mean look at that number look at that total number for lean body mass It's always very important Okay. Yeah, no, that's that's useful. I just to answer the like cut or bulking question I'm not really doing either I was definitely bulking for a while just because I switched to lifting more often instead of cardio and just like everybody says You're getting hungry and hungrier and you're still losing weight and it's kind of mind boggling but I eventually got to the point where The calories I was eating was super daunting for me. So I just wanted to Listen to my body and kind of cut back and just only eat when I was hungry And oh, well, that's that's a good that's a good choice. Jacqueline, you know, I'm glad you said that because We talked so much about the importance of having lean body mass But if it's at the expense of you feeling like you're force feeding yourself, right? Or the quality of life has decreased Then who cares which is actually a good place though because this is this is what I'm always on your boundary That's right. I'm always Seeking this place for my client right when I get a client Uh, doesn't matter weight or fat loss muscle. I I want to get to a place where I've ramped that metabolism up So much that you look back at me as a client. You're like, Adam I just use a chore. I'm too chore to eat this much and I'm like, awesome Now, let's just listen to your body eat when you're hungry. Let's not worry about getting to a certain amount of calories You know, but stay fed when you're hungry eat Do make good choices and then we get into that nice little intuitive place where I'm trying to get with all My clients where you're you're very satisfied where you're at. You're able to keep a lean a lean physique At the same time and then you don't feel like you're also stuffing yourself all the time Right. Yeah, because I was starting to go down the path of like eating snacks or sugar In order to get to that calorie Place and I just that's not the path I wanted to start down. So In order to just real quick in order to Minimize the muscle loss. Do you recommend changing like a program to like a prime or More mobilization instead of lifting in order to minimize that muscle loss. I mean actually the opposite. Yeah Anabolic would be like an anabolic strength based type of program. Yeah, and obviously keeping your protein intake high Studies are pretty good on this like your as your calories drop Your protein intake to minimize muscle loss typically needs to go up So if you're around 0.7 grams per pound of body weight You can move up to one gram per pound of body weight while cutting You know maybe fat and carbs to bring your calories down Just keep this in mind if you if we if we reduce calories And we also change the signal of trying to get your body to build muscle to doing things more like mobility It'll adapt in that direction Which it'll pair down muscle So if we want to hang on to as much muscle as we want You want to still send the signal that we were trying to build Even though you may not be feeding yourself that way and that should help actually preserve More muscle while also obviously keeping the protein intake up Interesting. Okay. That's kind of kind of our intuitive to why I thought so. I appreciate You Correcting that no problem. Thanks for calling Jacqueline. Yeah, thank you You know, that's I'm so glad very technical question. You need to break all this down. I feel like yeah So so again, she's talking about percentage versus total with lean body mass. She wasn't even bringing up I know but let's let's simplify basically what she's asking because to even listening Okay, and I know exactly what she's talking about that there's a lot flying over a lot of people's head right now I'm going to go. What did we just hear you can so percentage is just a percentage of your overall body weight So that means if you are, you know, if you have 90 pounds of lean body mass and you weigh 100 pounds It's really easy, right 10% body fat 90% lean body mass If you lost 10 pounds on the scale Nine of it was body fat one was muscle Your percentage of muscle lean body mass goes up a little bit even though you lost a pound of muscle But that's not that important what you want with lean body mass is the total number Now the point that was important That was important to pay attention to what she said to maintain this lean body mass I I didn't I felt daunting to eat this much food. And yeah, man Listen building muscle is great, but not at all costs. Obviously you could go on a bunch of Anabolic steroids and you can live in a way that's just super unhealthy Maximize your muscle, but you're not as healthy. You don't feel as good and as expensive as shit One of the most one of the the the biggest pains in the ass of competing was Man when I had got up to that place where I was 230 and my metabolism was roaring Oh, bro, I mean, yeah Calories dude and like and if you want good choices, like you're you're not just piloting garbage in there like that Is expensive the real part of the question I think she was trying to get to was the fact that she was starting to include like Simple sugars and things into her diet that, you know, normally she wouldn't even have been trying to seek out But uh, you know, the calorie amount was just too much Next question is mitchell from ohio. Hey, mitchell. How can we help you? Yeah, so the reason why I reached out to you guys is um, I'm having some muscle imbalances And the reason why is I was a football player at a d1 school I was a punter and so through that repetitive actions I led to some hypertrophies On my right side, you know compared to my left just through all those repetitive actions And I know a lot about it just because I actually did as I graduated college I then went into the Personal training and chiropractic field. So I'm now a chiropractor and I use a lot of what I've learned from you guys And what I've learned through school the better my knowledge So I was just the reason why I was emailing you guys was just See what you guys had to say about that. Okay, so I did recently email or a purchase anabolic And I love that. I've actually seen really really good You know well tremendous results just because I haven't used that kind of programming since college And the reason why is I don't really want to You know strengthen my imbalances even more with that program. Yeah, no good. Yeah, I'd I'd move you to performance That's the wrong program. Yeah performance would be more ideal Yeah, maps and a box would be wrong for you because it's so barbell focused and if you have a big careful wrong sounds hella bad Well, well what I mean is it's not the ideal program, right? Well, I mean if you have big Look, I've trained athletes because everybody's got a difference between the right and left. Okay, that's that's super common But I've trained athletes where the difference was so stark It was actually quite remarkable. I've trained pitchers where I've seen this I've trained You know baseball players. I've trained soccer players where I've seen even some of this In your case, I could see why one side would be especially everybody's favorite one side But this is this could be pretty big if you're an athlete and you train like that like it could be pretty big So what I would do is I would do all unilateral work And I would make the weaker side dictate the weight in the reps That's it. So that means you're going to go easier on your strong side for a while until the weaker side catches up Split stances are going to be your friend too. Yeah, because if you push the barbell, you know Two sides at the same time exercises and push the weight You're not going to catch up. You're going to you're going to continue to have this disparity It may take you to paint how long you played that sport might take you a year of just unilateral work Focusing on the weak side first Before you start to balance yourself out even more specific for a client I would look single leg deadlifts for you all day, man We're spending a lot of time doing that for sure to try and bow and just like salson We're doing the the opposite side first. So and this is another person that okay So unilateral work like crazy a lot of stability stuff Multi-planar movements, which is in performance a performance to is is going to be like the most impactful for you I think I would even almost jump you right into phase two to address a lot of these imbalances and see You know how you respond and Uh, how your body is is able to stabilize even properly. Yeah, well, you could also add this So if you don't have uh prime pro I would get I would get that and then what I would do is I would do all the all the tests in there So on the major joints and compare the left to the right and the the side that is is less mobile I'd I would make effort to spend time before workouts and throughout the day of addressing the immobility of that Once it gets more than likely there's going to be a major discrepancy from left to right for you And so that's what I'm looking for is I'm going to go down all those I'm going to go down all the major joints and I'm going to probably pick two or three of the greatest offenders So the ones where there's the greatest discrepancy between left and right mobility And that is now going to become something that I try and do at least two three times a day Certainly before I lift and then focusing primarily on unilateral training Those things should do do wonders for you if you focus your training around that. Yeah, awesome. Thank you guys. No problem Mitchell Thanks for calling Yeah, I remember the first time this happened. I mean I had a client This was a kid who was a remarkable high school pitcher I mean his kid threw some serious heat, but he'd been pitching since he was a kid And his dad said, hey, he's a little imbalanced between his right and left I had him do like he walks in and I could see it like just him walking. I did an assessment and I was like, wow, this is Huge imbalance now. He was still playing baseball. So I couldn't attack it super aggressively because I don't want to mess up His technique he eventually stopped playing And that's all we did was and it took a year to see some actual balance This is the danger too of specializing too early with kids. They really don't well their bones Especially with something like a pitcher, right? So you only have so many throws and so to Make sure that you get a lot of variety and a lot of different exposure to different movements is Even more essential for kids But like to his point to really to be able to isolate both sides and work your way through that It's going to be massively beneficial. I would say punting's right up there I mean punting's going to be really close to pitching the same basically It's the lower body version. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I mean and you're planting so hard on one side always on that side So he's gonna be really strong on that plant foot He's gonna have crazy mobility in the end because at least soccer you're switching it up Yeah, exactly. Soccer you're getting a little bit of a balance back and forth But pitching and a punter like I'm trying to get what else is like that that that they're dude, you know They've done bowlers because remember your your body is trying to get better at what you do and this can be This can get extreme. You know that they've actually dug up bones In england and other parts of europe and they can tell by looking at the spine And the humerus bones that they were long bowman A long bow is this huge long bow required like 180 pounds of pulling power It was like made you a dominant force during medieval times And they would look at the spines and they they were molded and twisted You see a big scapula and a big like humorous into this twisted position Yeah, and it's because their bodies became good at this one-sided type of throat So which is okay for sports, but when you're done playing sports now, you're you know now you're now you're moving weird So look if you like our information head over to mind pump free dot com We got tons of free stuff that we give all of our listeners lots of stuff Go check it out. You can also find all of us on instagram So you can find justin at mind pump justin me at mind pump sal and adam at mind pump adam Our vulnerability is when we don't wake up every day and ask ourselves Why are people working out and what do we need to do to keep them consistent? At some point it may become more about education It may become about you know giving them different types of routines It might be about Understanding that when people do begin to fall off the wagon because maybe they had a life event. Maybe they had a kid