 Welcome to Toffy TV, I'm joined by Joe Winn, who has written a song about Bramley Mo. Stay with me. Everton are leaving Gooderson obviously in three years, less than three years and I've 56 Premier League games left at Gooderson Park, that's all, at the time of recording this. And Joe is musical and he's written a song about Bramley Mo because obviously I've said this on a few videos Joe to different people. This is the biggest thing that will happen in our lifetime, in terms of whatever, even if ever went on and won the Premier League, which would be a huge and unbelievable thing at the moment, but the actual physical move in stadiums from where we are onto the banks of the Royal Blue Mesa, I think surpasses that, it's such an epic historical event. It's a real thing, so why the song, obviously you're a musical man, so why the song about Bramley Mo? It's part of a few, a song part of a few, along with Michi Stach, who's a very good member, he was a SIMBAD in Brookie, and Stephen Fletcher, who's a director in Liverpool and an actor who's directed some of the big shows around the Royal Court, Annaped, we've also written a musical about Everton. It's all been done, songs are done, scripts are done, but we were looking at Bramley Mo as the next phase sort of thing. We've done a few songs, we've done a great song about Leven Godderson, which is, you know, it's a joke you're up when you're with your dad and all them lyrics and that, but they're all done, but because we're moving to Bramley Mo I just felt we needed something to hand it over if you like. So got some ideas together, a few lyrics, a couple of the lyrics you might recognise Evertonians, you know, when you hear it. So put it together, got my guitar out, managed to get some proper music to it, and we've knocked this basic video out. It's the best we can do at the minute, but hopefully it reflects a little bit of the song. I mean I've listened to the song and it is good the lyrics are. I mean it's not a song that you're going to sing at the match, it's like a three and a half minute song, so it's a proper song. But there is some good lyrics, particularly about us building all the grounds in the city now and the banks of the Royal Blue Mesa and that kind of thing. It's stuff that we sing at the match, the lyrics that are being there, and there's a little mention of the fact that we have played at all the grounds first, that's in there as well. That's a fact? It's part of a bigger thing. We haven't been able to sort of do a lot of videos due to probably not having the technical ability to do them and the time and the money and stuff. We've done a couple of little videos, we've done one about Dave Wixon called the Cannonball Kid. The song Billy Butler was great, he featured that a few times on Radio Maryside when he was there and again he's been a big supporter of us on his new station and that. The songs are there, a couple of videos, I've got my own YouTube, it's only Jo Winn, it's not in mega, I've got some of my own music on there but I've put a couple of the evidence ones on yesterday really because I knew we were coming on here to chat about them but I'd love to get more of them done. You know, Alan Myers, as you all know, was a massive blue, and Mel and Dave Prentis, as you know, Mel's, Dixie Dean's, Grandor's, they've read the script and they both love the show. Basically we're looking to take a fairer, we'd love to get a venue and we'd love to get it out there, so that's a work in progress. So obviously the family more thing, is that feature in the show or is that this in your mind, is this for after the show? This song hasn't been down to feature in the show, it probably could be included maybe at the end but it hasn't been, it's a separate thing. It's just literally been done in the last six weeks from scratch, picked the guitar up and done it and wrote the song and I always look for singers to do my stuff but unfortunately it couldn't get anybody. So you're watching, I'm always looking for singers, not only for stuff like this but a lot of the stuff that I write. So I've had to go with this one for me since, so you'll have to put up with me singing this one. Sam, we will obviously put the link in the description below to see if it's a bit of a listen. I'm interested in this musical, not that I'm not interested in the song, I've heard the song and it's great, but I'm interested in this musical because we've just chatted off air before and something you said does resonate as that. There's about 431 Liverpool plays and musicals, isn't it? They're all on in the city and they always do very well but there isn't really anything for evident. So was that your reason behind it? A lot of it was, I've been mate with Mickey Stark since we were kids and we've always had the wind up thing because he's a dad and it's sometimes got a little bit nasty but mainly at times it's been friendly and he came in one day after going to watch Shankly the Fire a couple of years ago. I don't retain any of those. He came in basically and said, I've just been to see that Shankly the Fire and I basically told him to do one and I just rattled off the fact that you've had Shankly the Fire, Doug Lee's the film, you've had Beaton Bear, he's going one night in Istanbul, you'll never walk alone. There's been nothing for Evertonians and that's when he sort of laughingly said to me, why don't you do something then? So I just went like Bob and I went from there really and because Mickey's here he got into Stephen Fletcher, he's gone really massive now, he's got some really big projects, he's in demand, directs some of the biggest shows in Liverpool and he's down in London direct in the big NHS, in Plymouth direct in the NHS musical now. He said he'd come on board and help us which is a really big thing so with his expertise. As I say we've done it, the songs eventually started not like themselves but we came about and we've recorded them all as demos, Mick Sanga Cobblstein and the people who you know from the Royal Court have got involved and sang a few. We had a raid through there and Andrew Schofield, he was involved and we've sort of from there so it's more or less ready to go. We're looking for the right venue and it's ready. Well I mean what's there about, obviously don't give the game away but what's the basic story or the basic idea of it? It's funny because as you've been laughing before it's like a typical Leviton thing, it's not like a show just all about Leviton's history or the history runs through the show, songs run through the show. We have mentions about the ghost of Dixie and stuff like that but it's a family story and it's sort of like a history of Evertonians who always have this bad luck, this family. They're always, they're always, you've got this kid who almost makes it to the third team and always nearly appears, something happens but this is just before the ground closes and it's come up to the last game, Codus and Park and this kid's in the youth team, something happens and he's got a chance but it's also the mums and dads are having conflict about the family. So it's bigger than just the football team as well. It's got a proper family team and it's got all the jokes in about the assets of money and it's got all a few little nods and slights about you know who and stuff and it works really good. Everybody's, you know, we've showed it to, thinks it's great but we just need to get it out there now and we're waiting for it and off we go because we know the blues will come and see it. Oh God yeah. But it's just, it's a time thing of getting the right location and getting it out there now. So to venue, that's what we're looking at. A lot of it is data to venue show. Now I mean, you're right, they do seem to have a lot of this kind of thing and they go to it and I guess because evidently don't, you know, like dipping your toe in the water sort of thing and saying is there a marker but I'm sure. Definitely. I think the Evertonians do generally get behind stuff and want to go and see this kind of thing and again it'll just be a marker, right, in terms of just letting people know it's out there, letting people know that there's a marker. Well, the time we've taken, you know, we've actually got together a lot of times and recorded the demos to a decent standard, you know, and anyone who goes there or record the blues fans or anyone really, it's the usual suspects who are involved, you know, Stephen and Mike, you know, Fletcher and Jamie Clark and stuff. They've all got involved and sang the songs and the songs are good and ready to go so we have put a bit into it. So the groundwork's done really, it just needs polishing up and finishing off. Rub a stamp on and off you go. But as you know, nothing's overnight. No, no, and obviously. Well, we had the rate through just before the pandemic and then the pandemic came and so I was like everybody's life in there, you know, people have struggled with things. Well, hopefully now, hopefully now we can start moving forward with things that are back on, plays are back opening things. So hopefully it will be picked up. The Royal Court would be nice or some of that big venue like that and that chance for Evertonians to get out, have a laugh, have a nice out. Yeah, it'd be good. The Cannonball Kid song about Davidson is more of one. There are, there's three or four we play every week at the match. The Cannonball Kid one is like one of them. Yeah, yeah. Specifically so, you know, if anybody goes on the link and as I listen to that one, that's because that has got a little video with it. But that that is more like one of them songs. But obviously some of the other songs, some of them, they're not all, some of them are emotional ones, you know, where there's like a bit of a moment with the daughter and the mother where it takes it down. Because that's what a prop of players to go up and down. Of course, yeah. That's what we decided to do. And they're all, they're all slightly different, which I'm quite proud of really, you know what I mean? The way we, the way we were. The effort to put in it and to be able to run it through with the story as well and have the songs make your interest and so on. There isn't anything like that out there at the moment. Not at the moment, no. There's nothing out there. So it's an opportunity to make a little bit of history mate. Fingers crossed mate, yeah. Get it out. Like you say, I think there will be a big marker for it. I think people will go and watch it and have a good night out. I think the blue will go and watch it, yeah. Start showing that, you know, we are involved in this shit and we do have our own history that, you know, the others try to pretend we don't but we, you know, this sounds interesting. Of course we do, yeah. There you go. I mean, good luck with it. Good luck with it, hopefully it'll, you know. Well, it's thanks for the opportunity mate. As I said, I mentioned some of the people who helped in the Allen and Mel and Dave and, you know, them people and like yourself. The blues always seem to help each other when things like this happen. Well that's serious about, because it's about networking and getting it out there, isn't it? As long as people know that things like this exist, they will get behind it. Yeah, it's a bit of an interest hopefully. Hopefully, yeah. Hopefully. You can get it sort of, get a venue sort of tune in and we can do the marketing for it. Yeah, if it's on, I'll be back, yeah. And then you'll be back doing that and then it'll be on to you next one about Bram Llymore and then when you've done that you'll have to do one about that, so. Yeah, so Jobe, thanks for coming in. Yeah, thanks for the lads for having me, yeah. Good, it's all good to me. We will put the link in the description, not only to Jo's website but specifically to the Bram Llymore song as well. I'll put the link in the description on your YouTube channel. Yeah, that makes you. Any feedbacks, good or bad, it's always useful so. No, it's always good. Anyone's out there who's a venue, provider or whatever like that, get in touch and we can hopefully sort of, anyone from the Royal Court watching, get this sorted. Come on, time to level it up more than one club in this city and we are the senior club in this city after all. So, let's get this sorted or time everything represented on the boards as well as everywhere else. Thanks for watching and we will see you later. Thanks guys. Thank you.