 Formed me like other than just mailing the car. Well, that is informing you mailing you like but I could see if my card was within a month of expiring A lot of times it was not for fraud reasons if you're I mean, but they're very good about I have text alerts turned on for all of that Not fraud being perpetrated on your account fraud reasons meaning they know that that number was in a breach And so they're proactively issuing you a new number and canceling the old one I've had that happen to me Way too many times And it's just annoying because then I have to go change my credit card numbers everywhere everywhere. Yeah What bugs me is like Fine, but I had something like I had a hotel room Booked on that card and they never informed me and I literally lost my hotel room the week before I was supposed to fly out You mean you didn't get the card in the mail I got the card in the mail, but it came that week. I was gonna fly out. I see is that so it wouldn't Like it was one thing v of a has always been really good about telling me by email also No, they have all they have my phone number. They have my email. I've never contact me Are you sure that you didn't know they could know this is the thing they sent me a Card they sent me a they sent me a letter that showed up three weeks after my card came Explaining why they didn't say I'm in the post office. Yeah, maybe I don't blame them B of a trivia. Do you know what the original name was of bank of america? No Bank of well, it was started by an italian-american on san francisco. That's right. Although. I think it's headquartered in Atlanta now, right I didn't hear it bank of italy And italy one of the big things that caused them to rise into prominence was they were the only people who started really actually giving money People to to start rebuilding after the 1906 earthquake. They Put up a table out on one of the piers and started, you know, handing out loans And they were the only ones who were really doing that and that is really one of the things that led to the rise of b of a And especially in san francisco Great episode of the sparkle tack podcast about the 1906 earthquake if that's still around anymore Uh, I'd love to listen to it Probably not available anymore, but well, I found a vacuum repair shop not far from me Oh, very good. I know you guys are well worried about that We followed up on that in fact I found quite a few in the greater la area, but there's one inside of monica that was because nature pours a vacuum Right A broken vacuum particularly But a very powerful happy vacuum when it works well, so it's worth it's worth fixing Well, it's worth uh Starting to yes, let's do it. Uh, sarah, would you do the honors on line three? I would All right, here we go three two Thanks to everyone who supports daily tech news show directly to find out more head to daily tech news show dot com slash support This is the daily tech news for friday august 10th 2018 in los angeles on tom merit and i'm from sir do a feline I'm sarah lane also joining us from amateur traveler chris christensen This is chris christensen with another tech in trample. No, i'm sorry. That's all right The ipad to make him talk Ah, it's so nice to have you here chris. Thank you We're going to talk about tech for travel particularly Long-term travel international travel, you know power adapters stuff like that Also our producer roger chang is here. How are you roger? I'm good Good, let's start with a few tech things you should know The taiwan fair trade commission dropped charges of monopolistic practices against qualcomm in exchange qualcomm Will make 700 million dollars in promised investments related to 5g collaborations market expansions start-up and university collaborations and development of a taiwanese center for operations and manufacturing engineering Qualcomm can continue its current pricing strategy, which is something it's contesting in court in other regions including high pro High-profile cases involving apple NASA's parker solar probe has arrived at its launch pad in cape canaveral, florida for an early morning launch saturday This probe is going to get within 8.66 solar radii of the sun. It's real close if you don't if you don't realize that Uh, the closest a human object has ever been to the sun to be honest and at its closest approach It will also become the fastest velocity relative to the sun of any human made object at 700 000 kilometers per hour parker solar probe will study solar wind and coronal mass ejections among other things And that could prove very helpful in protecting satellites as well as any people we have up there in orbit The philippine competition commission has approved grab's acquisition of uber's operation in the country provided that grab complies With certain conditions to improve the service grab must improve fair transparency booking acceptance rates Complaint response time as well as reevaluate driver incentives grab has 93 of the ride hailing market after the acquisition of uber You could say they've grabbed almost the entire market there pretty much Nintendo switch online a launch in september and the company has announced some more details about what subscriptions it will include Subscribers will get online play for games like splatoon 2 mario kart 8 deluxe among others Access to classic nes games some of those with online play as well Save data cloud backup which lets subscribers access game data Even if they switch to a new system or let's say you lose your switch and you have to buy a new one All your game saves will still be there subscriptions if you remember are $4 a month $8 for three months $20 a year Or if you want a family plan $35 a year Let's talk a little more about what's going down between apple and tesla John grover of daring fireball perhaps you've heard of him notes that dug field has left tesla after five years Including overseeing model three production kind of a big deal field was once vp of mac hardware engineering And guess what he's now returning to apple grover says that field will work with bob mansfield on apple's project tightened car project Sources have told various outlets as well that apple changed From the idea of manufacturing a car to developing autonomous car technology But fields production experience at tesla could be put to use either way Now i i know i know the conversation is supposed to be Oh field with his model three experience is going to come in and work on project titan like grover said And it'll be a car again build a car or is it still just going to be the autonomous stuff? But what if they brought field back to help get macbook shipping again? I was gonna say could I just get a newer version of the macbook here? You've got the model three to ship. Could you do that for our laptops, please? Well, uh, yeah, I mean very hard to say the fact that he's returning to apple, which you know, he's he's already worked there. He's Probably you one would assume he has he has good relationships with the folks that he used to work with Yeah, well he worked closely with mansfield before so it makes sense that he would work on project Exactly. I mean the idea that apple is making its own car. I think it's pretty far-fetched at this point But having somebody who worked so closely not only at apple back in the day, but it tests the all of this time And oversaw the you know the the development and eventual shipping of model three vehicles Seems to point to apple being more serious than ever about its autonomous technology But I would put money on the fact that they're we're not going to see an apple car I I still yeah, I don't think you necessarily have to bring field knows man's field field knows cars Field coming doesn't mean it has to be him replicating what he did at tesla as far as building a car He still brings that knowledge I wonder when he left to go to tesla were people speculating that tesla was going to get into the laptop business Well, they kind of are really For the tablet business anyway as a center console Security researchers from fleetsmith and dropbox at the black hat conference demonstrated a method for gaining control of a brand new Mac when it makes its first wi-fi connection So fresh out of the box you open it up makes its first wi-fi connection boom it's owned now The target mac for the x plate has to be enrolled in a corporate mobile device management system So this is going to happen to consumers. It would happen to people at work The attackers could intercept the handoff between the enterprise server and the mac app store To replace the corporation apps or not even replace maybe in add to the corporation apps a bunch of malware It's sophisticated attack. It's not easy to pull off Could be achieved by large organizations or governments according to the researchers and apple has patched it If you're up to date to mac os 10.13.6 It won't be a problem that any company that isn't up to date needs to get up to date to avoid this It does remind me of the days in like windows 98 or you know way back in windows nt or things where you couldn't download the patches from microsoft Once you put it on the internet you were quite often hacked before you got through all the patches to keep you from being hacked Oh, right. How long how long can a windows unpatched windows machine last on the internet? Yeah, yeah This isn't quite that bad because no no there has to be some proximity involved There has to be some sophisticated ability to become the man in the middle to carry off this attack I also don't know how many people are using that sort of corporate Solution for max. I haven't run across it. So it may be very common, but I am not familiar with people using it It's interesting question too. Hey you guys want to talk about makeup. Yeah, of course Of course, of course. I mean who else would I talk to about? L'Oreal is developing augmented reality experiences for instagram letting users virtually try on foundation or lipstick or eye shadow As well as see things like different eyebrow shapes L'Oreal bought augmented reality and ai developer modi face back in march the company l'Oreal Is talking about developing something similar with chinese partners as well. This is fascinating I don't care if you don't use makeup This is interesting because It is a company that's not fang right Buying an ai company. I think it's interesting for that l'Oreal buying ai is interesting to me And it's a new way of shopping and it's not just e-commerce of like go online and buy a thing and have it shipped to you It's using those those insta stories features to replicate the in-store experience to a certain extent And well Well, and not only that, but it's um, it's funny. I for one of my other shows. I interviewed the ceo of beauty con recently and um, yeah, and you know huge sort of an event-based company, but but you know, they're doing a lot of um a lot of uh Stuff behind the scenes as far as uh teaming up with beauty experts and you know youtube stars and the whole thing and It's it's interesting how much, you know, someone like me is like oh if I want something I don't know. I guess I gotta go to like department store and buy it and you know try it on there's bad lighting and and the the the new guard is all uh into the sort of ar experience like there's a tutorial on instagram great But if l'Oreal can say oh, okay So, you know give us a photo of your face and we'll be able to you know Try some stuff on you to and then you know nice little link to buy the product once you find the one that you like the most Well, yeah, I mean perfect sense. This is seamless, right? I open up insta stories Uh, and and I I let it get a live access of of my face and then I say yeah put that shade of lipstick I'll try this shade of lipstick. Oh wait put this foundation. Does that look better? I would and it's all happening to me to see that Tom. Yeah Tom, please do that My foundation under my beard is so glad you're well. You got it Yeah, I was just thinking about alternatives for what to do with my eyebrows. So that actually could come in handy. Oh, okay eyebrows are very important Chris Even if you don't care about your eyebrows, what about hairstyles? What about, you know, beer trimming? What about, you know, there's there's all kinds of things that that this This example opens up That's like, hey, you the thing you could only do in the store with a person try on clothes try on makeup You could do over the over the not even just over the internet, right Not take a picture and upload it like live. It's happening live and you just get to use augmented reality I think this is a really cool use of augmented reality. I guess that's what I'm trying to say I just you know, I'm one of those people who went into audio for a reason There may be other uses that you you will be able to get to chris Just just wait in line behind the beauty people. All right, they're blazing this trail this time Microsoft's alt space vr released tools to let users create shareable spaces in virtual reality That works for the oculus go and gear vr users can drag and drop objects in a 3d space and then invite others to join them I'm blanking now on the stanford project That was that recent or are you talking about like 10 years ago? Oh, gosh It reminds me of but basically it reminds me of second life is what it reminds me of second life. Thank you That was came out of stanford. Uh, second it reminds this is second life for the modern lad Templates include base worlds stk playground worlds. They've got a few others in the works and I mean, this is this is also neil stevensson land, right? Like this is This is instead of do it again like whereas second life was oh, I do it in my browser This is you do it in a virtual space. You just look around I spent a lot of time in second life in at one time. Uh, there's probably still a chris2s pinkhurst Somebody up there in second life hanging out looking frozen wearing an amateur travel a t-shirt I I mean I this this has got a lot of people excited because I think vr is chomping at the bit for the people who like it There's plenty of you skeptics out there who can take potshots all day long There's plenty of material for you to take potshots at but the people who are into it They're chomping at the bit for something new to do something new to play around with and when I say that I don't mean like just a new game. I mean a new kind of thing and Microsoft buying alt space Was was a good thing for them, especially given their hollow lens development Uh, and alt spaces has got some really cool stuff going on I'm a skeptic with vr for storytelling, but not for something like this or not for games and things where I can easily see that it would be attractive now when you say you're a skeptic for storytelling. Why is that? So when I hear people talk about like wouldn't it be great to have vr movies It just reminds me of doing a field trip with kindergartners Where you're trying to get them to focus on the thing that you're trying to get them to focus on and they're looking all over the place And Tell stories effectively that way I really the way we tell stories with video Is we show you what we wanted to show you? We're a gaming environment where there are things going on, but you're not it's not storytelling in the same fashion It works I'm not sure that I see it yet for wouldn't it be great to have vr movies and things like that. It's like no that sounds That's awful I was like it's the wrong spot. I missed that Right it began with a you know a 3d space so I'm not saying that someone won't figure it out. Yeah. I'm saying I certainly haven't figured out and I can't quite envision yet For that type of storytelling that vr is the right tool Yeah, you know my very limited vr sort of documentary viewing Has has it kind of speaks to this, you know where sometimes I'm sort of looking over here and I'm like, oh wait I'm missing the action You know because like there wasn't sort of an arrow being like don't miss it But at the same time I'm like But this also could have been a very different experience had I just been looking at a few different other things But that would also require multiple viewings to this thing. So it's you know, it's it's sort of charging You know, I don't know new territory. Well, I worked on vr back in the day I used to work on the quick time plugin when that was first coming out and we were trying to figure out what to do with You know that very crude type of vr back in 96 or something like that So I like vr, but I think it has uses Moving on to real estate last year property listing site red fin started experimenting in parts of southern california with actually buying homes And then reselling them the company is now ready to expand that operation called red fin now beyond san diego and the inland empire That's the greater los angeles area starting with orange county red fin now gives home owner homeowners offers for 20 Sorry 48 hours of an open house and then sends them their money within a week The company spent six million dollars buying homes in the first quarter of this year and 17 million dollars in the second quarter So they're pretty serious about it red fin says it made money on each home bought and sold However, the business segment lost about 100 000 dollars overall in the second quarter Yeah, so they didn't make up the cost of either remodeling the homes for resale or the or more likely the cost of Having to do all of the stuff pay the people to go and do the listings and and all of that So they're making more money on the houses. They're just not at the scale they need They'll get some efficiencies out of this once they expand it So I guess what they're saying is we're making enough money of it in a small market That we're confident that the efficiencies will scale out when we go nationwide and they plan to do that I tell you what it's going to be real enticing to a homeowner Who's even even in a hot market like it is right now to say, oh wait, I can I can just have my money I don't have to wait 30 days for escrow. Like yeah, you just give me my money. Uh in in a week. Yeah, I'm in It seems like the sort of business that amazon would get into Eventually because it gets into every business, right and you know, perhaps, you know, we can uh Go ahead and wave the closing fees, you know the way that they wave my shipping I'm a I'm a prime customer. This is the internet internet version of the big yellow billboard that says we pay cash for houses Yeah, well, and it's I think it's a great business model as long as it's an upmarket You know once you get stuck with the market that Uh, you know starts to go down Good question You're gonna have more people wanting to take advantage of it as far as selling their house in a down market Because it's harder to sell a house in a down market, right? Sure. Yeah, that's true The question is does redfin is redfin able to recoup those costs because you can still flip a house in a down market Sure Yeah Because the the flip doesn't have to do with the The rise or fall of the cost over time It's it's it's the ability to remodel the kitchen for 50 000 and then sell it for 100 000 more than you paid for it Oh, yeah Huh, it's interesting though. I am surprising to me Same It's one of those things you see and you go. Oh, sure. Okay. I get that Yeah, you see the news and you're like, oh, yeah, I guess you could do that But I've never once thought about it not being so, you know, you might have a realtor You know, there's some middlemen going on here But but but in general it's a it a c to c business where it has been And the reason you need a realtor is because it's so complex if redfin takes the complexity out of this Realtors are not gonna like this Love the fact that redfin is making it too easy for people to shop around Because it takes away some of their Expertise right realtors part of what realtors do is say I will help you find I wouldn't help navigate all the stuff out there and recommend homes that'll fit what you want If you can just go on a redfin and do that Well, that takes away one piece of what they do they still have other things they do But now redfin's like also we're going to sell the house directly to people That's taken away a big part of what realtors do And now it's it's not going to take away from some of the people who were the best at realtors You know the ones who just sold my the realtor just sold my parents home, you know and staged it himself and did home repairs and Put their stuff away in his truck it, you know Redfin's not going to do that But it's going to hurt people who aren't that but if redfin comes in and says yeah, but we'll give you your cash in a week You don't have to do any of that stuff. You don't have to repair anything I'll take care of all that you're going to make less money though. That's the thing Well, it depends because they could cut down on the you know, they could potentially cut down on the commission Yeah, that's true. Hey folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines dot com All right, let's get to the real reason we had chris in today must have tech when you travel internationally I've got some ideas of my own from when I went to australia earlier this year But you do this on the regular but what's what's the stuff on the on the regular You know when ronjer was talking about doing the story I don't carry a lot of stuff, right? So I don't have you know, first of all There's no magic bag of 20 different items that I carry because I don't want to Well, that's one of the keys to traveling is keeping it light And I think a lot of people feel like well if I'm going to take my tech Then I'm going to have to take a lot of stuff Right Well, and that's why you know my basic kit starts with you know a macbook air because I'm still doing work on the road You know an ipad mini and an iphone You know your smartphone of choice because you can do so much on them these days So you do take a tablet and a laptop you don't try to I do the tablet is well first of all it's a mini and it has no weight But I also carry the keyboard for that when I'm going to do a long plane flight because I can actually use it At the seat extra inches of you know extended You know leg room Because the laptop even the small laptop like like a macbook air It's tough using those on a plane And so yeah, I do carry that although predominantly the the ipad is the consumption device It's the sometimes right stories on but it's also got my tivo shows It's got my Netflix shows that I downloaded or amazon prime or whatever it is a lot of times you can connect to the planes entertainment system through it Do exactly it's gutty books and things like this if you if you bring an keyboard extender for the mini Do you really need the laptop? Yes, because I am a web developer So they having the unix machine Basically, which is why I use a macbook Is pretty necessary for kind of the work that I do Sure I mean and I asked that because I would never be able to leave my laptop at home if I was going from more than Maybe anything more than a like quick weekends. There's just no way. I mean it might as well I started to break out and sweat a little leaving the laptop What about what about the little one, but what about the dongles and the wires that that's where I think people get bogged down Yeah, so I actually have I didn't put it on the list we have here But I have a real simple device for first of all maintaining all the wires I do you remember back when you were in Elementary school and you had the pencil case that fit in your three-ring binder Yeah pencil case that's like fabric I have one of those in my backpack because it keeps the cables from getting all tangled and so I've got my You know my usb cables for the microphone if I'm bringing that for my earbuds if I'm bringing those You know not just using the AirPods for the usb no no data cable Right for connecting to recharge in the airport when you don't know where when you don't know where that usb has been Yeah, when you don't know where what it's kind of what else it might be connected to It might be connecting to and what they may be trying to download onto your device Just no data usb cable folks. There's a million of these out there. They're pretty yeah, and they're very cheap Yeah, but it basically just protects your device. It can only do you can only power with that device Um, so, you know those sort of things are in my little My little pencil case as it were. Yeah, so so what other little random stuff do you bring? So I do bring a Hutu which is both a Power brick that I can recharge devices, especially for them all particularly a long plane flight So for instance, I was flying back from the Czech Republic and the tourism board had scheduled my flights And so they used a budget carrier. So instead of getting back in two flights It was three and I had to do the bus and things. So I was in transit for 28 hours I think ahead of that whole day And so then it's useful to have some additional ability to charge because you know how difficult it is to In some airports to find recharging. So the Hutu device is also a Wi-Fi Router or Wi-Fi extender So basically I'm carrying the one device that even if I never use that functionality I can use it to just recharge a usb device So it's kind of handy that way and it's not very big. It's about the size of Well, it's about the size of an apple tv or one of those kind of devices So about four inches by four inches made a little smaller than that three and a half by three and a half What about on the app side of things chris? I mean, I know we you know, I am actually so guilty of Walking through street view before I go somewhere to the point. Oh my gosh Don't mess it up for yourself. Sarah like, you know You know get there and then see you know With your with your virgin eyes for the first time but but but beyond that are are there some app tricks that make life easier Well, there's a few Apps that I recommend you know one as you mentioned for instance making sure you have the latest version of the airline app Before you get on the plane Yeah, and especially for you know, I united more and more I'm flying the flights that you go in and there's no screen at all right because they're just doing The wi-fi and then the bring your own device model And so you want to have that latest version of that but I use trippett. I think we've talked about that before tom I don't know where I am if trippett doesn't tell me exactly And and the one time I didn't you know put the update in trippett when the airline sent it to me Was the one time that I missed a flight because I trusted trippett and well trippett didn't You know, it wasn't their problem. It was mine that We booked the flight, you know months and months ahead of time and then I Forgot to notice that it changed. Unfortunately. It was my daughter's wedding. So, you know They're at the flight. It is one of it is one of the essentials If you want to find out more recommendations on the apps on the on the little stuff Any of the stuff that chris packs? He's got it all collected together In a section called what I pack at amateur traveler.com Thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit There are lots of travel stories in our subreddit and there are lots of other tech stories too And we love them all you can submit your own and vote on others at daily tech news show dot reddit.com We're also on facebook facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show See you one place or the other or maybe even both All right, let's move on to the thing of the day, which actually isn't chris christensen today But it comes from big jim on ibm blockchain shipping efforts Hey dtns crew it is ibig jim the trade nerd and today I want to talk about again blockchain and the supply chain because it seems to be a growing field Now one of the things that came out today was maresk ap maresk Which is the largest ocean vessel operator in the world And ibm are going to join together to provide a new open platform called trade lens And trade lens is going to be able to provide a lot of those blockchain activities that we've talked about in previous episodes The big thing to point out here is that Maresk in itself is bringing in a lot of customers because they're the largest They're also bringing in a lot of terminals. They have 234 terminals worldwide So this is a big grab by maresk and it could get by ibm to get them involved The other interesting thing is specific international lines or pill is also joining within this ibm framework Now it doesn't also surprise me that humberg suit is their humberg suit is actually owned by maresk What I think we're going to see is we're going to see Mediterranean shipping company Who is already in an ocean consortium or a partnership with maresk join into this ibm platform too? And then we'll see the other ocean consortiums, which are basically these steamship lines. They team up. They work together I think these other ocean consortiums are going to choose individual providers So I think we're going to see microsoft get into this game And I think we're going to see google get into this game But that's just my two cents For tech and trade as well as the daily tech news shows trade advisor I'm big jim. Thank you big jim I That was so much better than my commentary on that story would have been I really appreciate that We're just glad you didn't have to pronounce maresk. Yeah We had a right though. We had a right though. Should have gone with our guts Uh, what else do we have in the mail bag this time? Well, we got a bunch of mail bags We got a few comments about our conversation from yesterday show about uh, the u.s. Is new space force or at least the Latest details we have about space force and kurta said Is it just me but every time I hear space force all I can picture is starship troopers I mean Not wrong. It is not just you Now and I don't know how everybody else feels about that movie, but I love starship troopers That is a really funny movie No, yeah, no, I have that's like I cannot contradict you. It's really funny Okay, that was one of the first dvds. I ever had really yeah Because I worked at a used bookstore and somebody came and sold it and we were all excited like somebody sold dvds to us It was like 1998 So I I had a pc that could play dvds So I I was able to check it out take it home and watch starship troopers on my windows 98 machine I mean because of that. Have you seen it like a handful of times or just the ones? Yeah, my little they like 14 inch windows monitor Well, every anytime I hear space force. I'm gonna hear think starship troopers because of you kurta. So thank you Also, thanks to chris christensen for being with us this fine friday Usually we only hear chris, but today for anybody watching the video you got to see him too chris What has been going on with you? Hey, hey, you know, I mean we get to talk back to chris. That was the really Yes, well you get to talk back to me. It's just that I don't get to defend myself and right. Oh, he got to talk back to us I guess that's yeah, it's sorry. It's our ar version chris What's been going on with you and how can people keep up with your excellent work? Oh, what amateur traveler calm is where we come out with a weekly podcast of different places to go Check it out folks if you haven't already Thanks everybody who supports the show in all the various ways that you can do it We have lots of ways to keep the show running, but you are our best and favorite if you Have a dollar to spare You can keep the show getting better and join a bunch of other people who feel the same way about the show at patreon.com Slash dtns it gets you access at various levels to things like a weekly column Roger wrote a great column this week on the patreon You also get access to a discord where you can talk to other members at certain level You get into the the the analyst slack where you can really dig into the Stories of the day and and there's more so go check it out patreon.com slash dtns Also, don't forget i'm headed to the st. Louis area september 6th and 7th I'm looking for locations to do the show. I've got lots of leads out there But if you got ideas i'm still taking them feedback at daily tech news show.com That is the same email address you can write us with questions comments feedback What you had for lunch how you feel about cosmetics? We will take it We're also live monday through friday at 4 30 p.m. Eastern. That's 2030 utc And you can find out more at daily tech news show dot com slash live We shall return on monday with lamar wilson talk to you then This show is part of the frog pants network get more at frog pants dot com I'm in clubhouse you have enjoyed this bro That was a great show it was It was a record. I had a quesadilla for lunch That'll save me an email. Oh, okay. Thank you. What was in it? A cheese Just cheese like a pure quesadilla. Oh, wow all case You know, it's good. Oh, it's good. I don't know if I could even Because I make cheese quesadillas at home all the time because I'm into simple eating But I always have like salsa or like mashed avocado to put on the top Well, there's taco sauce with it. So, yeah, okay, so yeah, you've got you've got some spice. You got a little Okay That I'm gonna be pouring with it. Yeah, if it was just cheese and tortilla, I'd be like No, that's not right Oh, so you had other things besides cheese He had hot sauce Well, yeah, okay. Hot sauce is nearly mandatory. I think that's a good idea. I assume I feel like it's the trifecta of the ingredients made I also And some heat right heat. Don't forget to apply heat. Not a good case. It's no All that could explain a lot Uh, hey roger, I have a cut down version In the in the drop box Level-ating right now. I don't know if you want to use that one instead of clipping it out. Uh, yes So wait, that's the one for the show Yeah, it's uh, it's level-ating right now. So you won't see it quite yet. I'll let you know when it's done Okay, let me pull up what you would call this show I I will since roger's publishing the show. I can I can do the title wrangling if you want. Yes What about my dongles? Uh, no Oh, I mean that doesn't mean Tripping with dTNS Tech and travel 30 minutes, that's pretty good Uh, tech and travel special that's to the point but but works AR version of chris, that's funny What version l'oreal because vr is worth it. Oh, I like that actually We'd have to change it to AR to be accurate, but I like that one actually Uh, sarah, you got any preferences? Um, I I mean, does everyone actually think that dongles like a ha ha Thing because to me it just means, you know, so I just gave dongles. You're really saying is everyone 13 is yeah, all right Okay, if we want to move on from that one tech and travel 30 minutes, I like Yeah, but that might be confusing Like is it a special that isn't dTNS? Yeah, I think you're over promising there What how could be? Yeah, because it's not tech and travel for the entire 30. No, it's not. It's not VR Again, it's AR not VR with the l'oreal I went to well, you know, it's funny though. It's like the whole sort of like Upload a photo of yourself and Put different hairstyles on you like or a different color No, no, no, I'm talking about like old tech. Oh, I see A decade ago. There were little sites that would do that L'oreal puts the Roger the levelated Version is up. I'm gonna rename it so it's easier to see so wait. So is in the treasure chest No, it's just in the main dTNS So many dTNS It's a it's a it's a wave Wav A wav So do just because I'm thinking about uploading things. Um, does we need a title though? We'd never pick. Oh, I'm sorry. L'oreal puts the augmented in AR L'oreal because AR is worth is worth it. I do like that one Sarah Sure All right, go ahead carry on you were saying scooter Scooter was saying uh back in the day I remember that you could be like, oh, look at me with a, you know, black hair or a crazy, you know buzz cut or whatever But it wasn't, you know, the kind of AR quality of this and I'm not talking about hair necessarily but colors and yeah like the the That extra layer of Does this actually? You know, does this please me? And if it does, can I buy it easily? Yeah, this nice little link on the um on the post itself Is dangerous Oh, it's dangerous. It's dangerous. It's great But it's dangerous because right now I've got this weird buffer where I'm like, I guess I'll just like go to the mall or something and You know, see what new colors there are because That is one thing we don't Have to do that, you know, and I don't have to just sort of guess to see if it looks good on me Then I'll probably be buying a lot more makeup That is one thing we don't worry about in travel because the studies coming out of Expedia Say the number of website visits you do before you're finished planning your trip So that's you know, I go to kayak and price the flights and then I go again the next day So that's two and is over 140 Wow Yeah If you think about it, especially that's in the u.s. It's a little about the same in uk and canada, but if you think about your You don't have much time. It's not the money even it's I have one vacation this year for a lot of people and you don't want to Very true You don't want to screw it up and then it's also the second biggest thing you spend money on quite often Behind what a house behind behind a mortgage in yeah It's true. It's really true that there are um Many years it's a little different now because my my schedule is different But I mean many years where it's like full-time job Yeah, two weeks a year maybe three if they're a cool company or you've been there long enough Um, but but for the most part. Yeah, it's like this is all condensed into like best trip ever In the limited time I have like can't mess it up And also very expensive Thanks for giving me the time off. I'll go ahead and spend it all What allows me to add tags What's matter Roger No, I'm trying to because I'm doing this on the pc. I'm trying to Now he gets talking to that tags VLC sometimes you don't hear from roger at all. Sometimes you hear a lot Can you can you not hear me? No, we can hear you. I'm just saying Sometimes you chime in on certain days more than others Well, today he's publishing the show instead of me Yes, no, I understand And I know that that is go run talk to the mortgage people Well, I had a video uploading. Oh, uh, what I wanted to ask you guys earlier is so When you upload a as far as I understand Anything under like 15 gigabytes on google drive is fair game You know, if I want to upload something and send it to you chris or anybody So I have found these server timeouts Happening with a lot of bigger files that i'm trying to video files that i'm trying to send to folks various folks I thought it was just me But somebody that I know this morning explained the exact same thing to me. He's actually on a windows pc So I was like, okay. Well, it's not a west based and I was like, yep I've found I've had that same thing and sometimes like if I leave it overnight magically in the morning. It's done But usually that server timeout or server error rather ruins the whole thing. Has anyone else Experienced this and do you have a solution? I tend to use dropbox. So I don't really yeah, I use dropbox for everything. Yeah The one thing I ran into dropbox now has a scanning feature in it Where you can scan documents And they bought one of the companies that made an app and so they included it So it does the thing where you can just take a picture and then it'll turn it into a scan You know, so you don't have to get the lighting perfect and everything But It's about 8 to 10 pages that it maxes out on what it can really handle I was scanning a 50 page document the other day and It did not handle the 50 page document So I kept doing less and less until I figured out like, okay It's about 8 to 10 at a time and then I then I had to go on my pc and merge the pdfs into one But that that was the only dropbox related upload delay that I've run into You're using google is that what you said? Yeah, this is google drive specifically Yeah, I don't that's why I don't use google drive for that stuff But but you know what actually I take that back I use it for tech republic They want google drive for their stuff for video So exactly what you're talking about and I haven't run into that. Well, yeah So I and I don't know what it is. I figure like is there's something coding thing that it doesn't like But it's like none of the stuff. I mean, it's all real standard. Oh, yeah I just didn't care what's in the file. Just and I don't mind using dropbox at all. I just I pay my two dollars a month for like a ton of google drive storage. I'm like this should work Right, right. You should be able to use it. I wonder if it's your I wonder if it's your network not not google It's possible, but because my friend had the exact same error this morning, you know, and he's nowhere near me He doesn't even use the same isp. I'm like, I don't know Yeah, I wonder if there's a I would check with the network could be see if you're dropping packets Because that's the kind of thing that would screw it And you shouldn't be but no from the command line is fairly easy to tell All right, I'll look into it. You know how we were talking about the Amish with uh, Justin Yes Marlin Marlin wrote in and said he did not grow up Amish. He grew up Mennonite, which isn't a strict But his father was Amish until he was The Mennonites that's right. Maybe he grew up as a black puffer Mennonite He's just in what does that mean for people listening getting confused Marlin grew up Mennonite, which isn't as strict as Amish, but Marlin's father Was Amish until Marlin's father was 18. Yeah So Marlin had a few Amish uncles and an aunt Uh and grew up in an Amish community And there is quite a variety of rules and regulations from church to church Many are confusing and don't make sense Generally they can have technology as long as the church doesn't forbid it So when new items come out like a smartphone sometimes the rules don't keep up Mmm Some allow about anything electrical as long as the power source is from a generator Solar or a battery when I was growing up 20 some churches allowed landline phones But not in the house. They were kept in a barn or in a shed I think the idea was to have them for emergencies But not to be handy for some reason when cell phones came along It seems that a lot of churches accepted them better And I don't know why often they will also allow something for a business that they won't allow personally Like electricity cars and computers on the subject of the pennsylvania dutch Both amish and menonite have that in their background Almost all of us grew up speaking a language by that name, which is a variety of west central german My family traces back to switzerland though not germany So sarah black bumper menonite was one of the stricter menonite groups Where that you could still get a car But they would paint the chrome bumper black because it's too ostentatious To have chrome. Yeah, that's wrong. It's so flashy. Oh, yeah Yeah, you know chrome very expensive with amish. I think buttons are flashy At least in some so my father What isn't velcro You got to keep a shirt closed Black felt Yeah, I remember when it was his fasteners or some type but the fast the buttons that you use on the more You couldn't use buttons you had to use something it was like a different type of closed fastener Yeah, my father used to work for a company named yoder brothers and basically was started by two Amish gardeners for the guy who did blue tip match Um, and they had greenhouses and he was in the greenhouse business that grew in a big company, but They said that they would still have people that when they came for a family reunion came in the horse and buggy So it was in that part of ohio that still has a big Amish community Be master, you know, I I'm not sure I would be comfortable doing like one of the tours I know they exist But I'm still really fascinated because I've never seen anything like that I've never even been to ohio or pennsylvania. You know where the certain areas are It's not that interesting But I would I would think it's really interesting Uh beatmaster wants to know if mac users still need to fake their browser user agent to get better travel prices chris Uh, that's largely myth. Okay If you're using a meta search engine, which is what I tend to want to use So something that's going to do like kayak or trip advisor flights or something like that or the even the google flights Isn't searching directly. They're searching A variety of places and then giving you back the results. So it saves you from going to 20 different sites They never see your browser request You're getting a request that is going through somebody else. So It really isn't going to be the case Well, uh roger. I think it's time to wrap up our video stream. Thank you everyone for watching and If you're on audio stick around there's more to come