 Hello and good morning, good afternoon or good evening depending on where you are joining us from. Welcome to Engineering for Change or E4C for short. Today we are very pleased to bring you the latest in E4C's 2014 webinar series. Today's webinar was developed in collaboration with Elliot Kotek, who is the content chief and co-founder of Not Impossible Labs, and Kofi Saname, the founder and catalyst at Volab. My name is Chitra Satti and I will be moderating today's webinar. When I'm not doing this, I work with American Society of Mechanical Engineers, where I am the managing editor for ASME.org, the official website of ASME. I would like to take a moment now to tell you a bit about today's webinar, 3D printing and development, impact and challenges. 3D printing is already changing the world. In Amsterdam, architects are building what might be the first 3D printed house. Surgeons in Holland have implanted a 3D printed skull and a woman with a rare disorder. Harvard researchers recently unveiled what they say is the first 3D printed battery. A team of people from around the globe have teamed up to create 3D printable prosthetics, and a California-based company is gearing up to send the first 3D printer to the International Space Station in August. 3D printing developments dominate technical news, but we are particularly interested in how this rapid manufacturing technology is utilized to improve quality of life in low resource settings. Specifically, what is being printed and why? How it's impacting the end users? And what are the limitations and implications to underserved communities worldwide? To answer some of these questions, we have invited today's presenters, Elliot Kotek and Kofi Saname. We thank you for joining us today. 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The content chief and co-founder of Not Impossible Labs and editor-in-chief and co-founder of Beyond Cinema magazine, Elliot has personally interviewed close to a thousand of the world's leading personalities. Born in 1980 in Tagore, Kofi is architect and anthropologist. He manages and finances Volab, which has become a unique place that enables the pooling of resources and the mixing of different populations adopting low environmental footprint uses. He is an incubator for technological products that aims to create a virtuous cycle for innovation in Africa. Kofi develops the strategy and plays the role of monitor to this little community, which now has about 20 very young members. Now without further ado, I will turn it over to Elliot for his presentation. Thank you teacher. So hi everybody, my name is Elliot. I wanted to just quickly take you through some of the reason why we do what we do over here at Not Impossible. Where we started was with my business partner and my co-founder, Mick Ebbling. If you put him into Google, you'll see his good talk on something called the iRider that I'll let you know a little bit about in a minute. You'll see that he's a family man and he's a big bald white man about six foot six. So I like to think that you got the more internet friendly version of the two co-founders because if you put my name into Google and press images, you get this kitten's tons of them, which of course on the internet is one of the greatest names of all time. With Mick and I, what we did is we started a company that was basically founded on the principle of technology for the sake of humanity. We look at the latest tech and the lowest tech and try and either apply it to the human condition and the human experience or repurpose old tech for the sake of humanity looking at ways that can be used that haven't been used before. The whole story of Not Impossible started really with a graffiti artist named Tim and a pretty unlikely source for any technology platform to begin. But this graffiti artist had ALS and was completely shut into his own body with locked-in syndrome and was still using this kind of old technology that we saw in places like The Diving Bell and The Butterfly or other films and books where people are completely locked in. They're presented with a tool that was a sheet of paper with a bunch of letters on it and were asked to blink their approval through the range of letters until they filmed something and that was their tool for communication and that hadn't changed in dozens of years in decades until Not Impossible came along. What we did was we basically got a group of hackers together and brought them to Mixhouse in Venice Beach and they took some old spectacles, some old sunglasses from the Venice Boardwalk, hacked open a PlayStation 3 camera, added some IED and some wire and a couple of zip ties and in a couple of hundred bucks were able to manufacture a solution that enabled this artist who was completely paralyzed to be able to use his eyes to draw on a computer screen. So essentially it was using the pupil as the tip of the pencil and as he blinked to shut, when he blinked shut very hard it turned on the pencil or put down the cursor and when he blinked hard again it raised the cursor or raised the pencil and then he moved his eyes and then the recognition software recognized his eye movements and enabled him to draw. It was an incredible experience to witness but really enabled someone who doesn't have access to communication tools to be able to communicate again and this is pretty much the guiding principle of everything we do is that anyone who's lacking access in terms of physical ability or geographic access or financial access that are disruptive in a way that enables these people to communicate or create or somehow other engage with the community at large and with the internet community around the world. The iRider was incredibly successful and without trying to be we managed to garner a bunch of press around it and a lot of awards and that's what led to the next instalments of what we're doing. In fact, the iRider itself with ALS being a progressive disease has necessitated that we advance that technology and so we're now replacing the blink mechanism with a sink mechanism which means that instead of blinking or fast blinking to turn on and off that cursor we're moving to a system that recognizes EEG waves and so the brain writer which has been developed you'll see a very early incarnation of it a longer foil bucket as someone said but it's embedded currently in a Nike headband and will be embedded into a baseball cap but it's electrodes that sit above the skin and it's completely non-invasive and it enables people to continue to draw and create by turning it on and off by calibrating it with brain waves and then to use their eye movements to continue to write and create and that launches a week from now at the Barbican in London so if any of you are in England I encourage you to come out to the Digital Revolution show at the Barbican it's an incredible assembly of technologies and it's the largest exhibition of its kind it's going to run from 2014 to 2020 in eight or nine different countries but we will be in a part of the exhibition that is available freely to the public whether or not made by a ticket which is consistent with our whole ideology of access that's a quick snapshot of what the exhibition will look like and those two boxes on the right-hand side with orange triangles will be places that you can either roll up to or walk up to and actually experience using the brainwriter to play a video game so you can get the whole transition you can get the experience from a very real, very personal level we are using 3D printed components in that but really the reason why we are here to chat about what we have been doing is this project called Project Daniel Project Daniel for us has been a whirlwind we began the story about July last year you will see this time magazine article that was dated in April but someone brought it to make my co-founders attention last July we read it and basically it was about this doctor who operates out of the Nuba Mountains Dr. Tom Katana he is the only doctor servicing an area that has a population of about a million people it's in the very bottom tip of Sudan and these people were fighting with South Sudan but when the borders were drawn for that new country they were left on the north side of that border and so since then they have been subjected to bombing raids by the government of Sudan who are trying to evict them from their native lands the president of Sudan is the same person responsible for the Tsar for atrocities and so he remains the only leader in power who has war crime convictions against him so he has been bombing this area where there is this lone doctor basically servicing these people the hospital itself is primarily solar powered so there are not a lot of resources around but another part of that article was about this boy Daniel Omar who was 14 when a bomb took both his arms he ducked behind a tree but his arms were wrapped around it and while his body was protected his arms were ripped off and Dr. Tom performed the WNPutation and when we read about this we decided that this was something that we thought we should be able to help with given today's technologies and on the not impossible website then ours a South African inventor really a carpenter who had locked his own fingers off and he had designed what's known now as Robohand which is a 3D printed prosthetic hand very basic and mechanical in its function and we thought that that would be the perfect tool, something mechanical not electric because as we all know scarcity of electricity in places like Sudan would mean that if the arm had a robotic component then it would probably get thrown away if the charge was lost so it had to be mechanical so we brought a team of different people to what was then our offices in Venice Beach and we had a make weekend and that make weekend included people like Brooke Drum who's the CEO of printer bot, one of the early 3D printing consumer 3D printing companies with models ranging I think from about $250 upwards so again fitting within our philosophy of access we brought Richard Van Ars out from South Africa we brought some engineers down from San Francisco a couple of precision engineers from a company called Pressipart in upstate New York and we brought all these people together and we worked on the prototyping of a 3D printed prosthetic there's a photo of Richard Van Ars on the left is the original inventor of the Robohand but what we wanted to do is to tweak his designs and have him tweak his designs to make the tool the 3D printed prosthetic for him a little bit more durable for the Sudanese conditions we then like sent a team of four people so it was Mick Ebbling who's my co-founder and not a medical it's good to know but he's not medically inclined no medical training just someone who's pretty handy around a Home Depot or a Bunnings or whatever that equivalent warehouse type scenario is in your part of the world and he went with a photographer a videographer and a logistics expert to get to Sudan he went first to Richard Van Ars since South Africa spent another week with him kind of as a Mr. Miyagi yoga type figure learned as much as possible about putting these ones together and putting them on people who need them and then they got to a place called Yida which the UN called the most challenging refugee camp in the world the house is about 70,000 people and that's where we found Daniel what was interesting is the project was called Project Daniel as a result of the story but we didn't know whether we'd actually find Daniel himself so it was kind of a coup that Dr. Tom located Daniel in Yida and we were able to connect with him in South Sudan in Yida but Daniel was a little bit skeptical at first he had been offered other lins before other prosthetics before and they really hadn't been up to speed but this one a 3D printed prosthetic limb you'll see most of it is 3D printed the only part that's not is the core cone the cylinder in the middle that is actually around Daniel's stump and that part is an orthoplastic a medical grade breathable plastic so that can go directly on to the skin whereas most prosthetics require silicon stockings or a thick sports sock that can be placed directly against the skin and then all the 3D printed components are then attached to that to that cylinder to that core it really acts quite simply the mechanical function is driven by cables that wrap around they come through almost like ligaments through the fingers through the phalanges travel their way up around the cylinder around the outside of the arm basically get tightened as tight as possible against the straight arm against an elbow so as the elbow bends it acts as a fulcrum point and draws the cables in which draws the fingers closed so it's really just an open shot mechanical hand but it provides that degree of freedom obviously for someone who has had both his arms removed to be able to feed himself again you'll see in this top shot on the left that's a shot of him feeding himself that's some sugar on a screen that's him feeding himself for the first time in two years what we love about this is in terms of the change aspect of it is it doesn't just free him up or give him the tool to enable him to feed himself but it also means the other young boy whose role it was in his community to provide for him and feed him after him in all sorts of different ways is now freer as well and can use his time more in tune with how a boy his age would spend it Daniel's a happy teen he plays soccer he can get bratty when we introduced the computers to the area he wanted to play games on them and play music on them even with his stumps moving around on a tablet and so it was pretty cool to watch and these hands were then assembled we thought here's the top right photo the team of people basically went around and grabbed a few people that were recommended by Dr. Tom and trained them how to 3D print and put together these prostheses and so that was the most rewarding part of the journey to do it, making another arm for Daniel then making another arm for this boy Mohammed who's in the shot here with Daniel and then as we as the team left Sudan and got back to LA there were photos of two additional people who had arms made for them by the trainees so this proved to us that the project was scalable that it was feasible to build out to other countries we left all the equipment behind for them and set up what was in essence the first 3D printing prosthetics lab and training facility in the world again it led to a lot of press from Time Magazine and Independent and The Guardian and all these different places and it's had these numbers of media impressions and the reason why this is important for us as a business is that we believe that if you do things for some people about them then it makes it hard to inspire others to do the same and because we're about access and about enabling people to see that they don't need permission to innovate that these tools are available to them and these files are available open source that means that more people can get helped around the world we don't want to be the ones going around making arms for people we want people to be inspired enough and that's led to requests coming from different places around the globe it looks like we now have commitments from sponsors to take the Daniel Labs or the Not Impossible Labs to 3 other countries around the globe within the next 12 months and we're hoping for another 12 regions after that by the end of the second anniversary of Daniel feeding himself so something we like to ask people to think about when we speak is because of this ability to have access to both the tools and the files is to ask you who your Daniel is who's that person in your greater community the person you pass by every day or the person who's a friend of a friend who just needs a hand quite literally no pun intended but there are people out there who can benefit from very simple technologies who otherwise wouldn't have access to them so we ask you to consider who your Daniel is so think about that it's kind of this basis of permissionless innovation we didn't coin the term or coin the phrase and it's been the subject of some interesting discussion but basically with the tools that are available to us now and the ability for everybody to communicate with each other now using the internet using these community forums using things like we're using today with E4C is that there's really no excuse if you have any inclination there's no excuse not to try and innovate no one needs to give you approval there doesn't need to be an institution or a business around it the tools are available to everybody and everybody can find their community online regardless of whether they're the type of people who would otherwise leave their houses or have access to communities of other innovators in their proximate geographies so anyone can do it it's available to anyone to try and kind of indicative of this point is that one of our teams that is working with us at the moment is doing a project that we call at the moment the Robot Walker everything we do we name after a person but we haven't found the person for whom we're building the Robot Walker yet other than we know that it's for children but so as long as it's not a boy named Johnny we will probably stick we will probably change the name to anything else around that person but we've got a team of 16 year olds who are helping build the first Robot Walker which is basically a GATE G-A-I-T trainer to help kids with cerebral palsy learn to walk in a fraction of the time it takes with traditional physical therapies there are devices to it currently but they're in the range and the realm is about half a million dollars a piece which means it's prohibitive for most rehabilitation hospitals to own more than one so we want to create something disruptive that costs a tenth of that so that 10 times as many kids can be on these machines and learn how to walk more more quickly, more rapidly the exoskeleton part of the device the part that actually joins to the leg is also 3D printed and is being 3D printed by a lab for us on the east coast as we speak but again this is just one of our projects we have a puff sipped mouth for a quadriplegic who wants to go back to school and can't afford the tools that are on the market at the moment so we're hoping to get a mouse for him that is operated with his tongue and with puffing and sipping actions and again components of that are 3D printed we're working on voice recognition softwares for people with ALS tools to recognize retinoblastoma in children so to try and prevent eye cancers in kids under 5 or the damage caused by them and we have a content platform that we just launched a month ago at notimpossiblenow.com and what we do there is we don't just tell the stories of our own projects and how we're helping people with technology and with repurposing technologies to help people but we also put out a call to action on that site where people can join our community and so if you have cause if you know someone who needs help and you just can't quite crack the code of how to help that person then we put it out to our community of innovators like to call them dynamoes and doers people who have the education whether they're MIT neuroscientists or mechanical engineers or electrical engineers but also people who are just cheerleaders and project managers and people who like to see things happen so they come to the site and can either submit a cause or join a team and get active and actually use their skills you know on the site in a Google Hangout session for an hour or a week or so to advance a project that uses technology for the sake of humanity the other guiding principle we have is help one, help many again we tell one story we help one person and we hope that that tool that we create to help that one person also has application to helping many others the other way this slogan I guess can be translated is that by helping one person we show that and not helping thousands when people help thousands consumers and people who consume that content seem to think that that's a job left for institutions and wealthy individuals like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett but when you can help one person and just show how these tools and how simple these tools can be then we just hope to inspire others to think about how they can help one person too so help one, help many again the principle that we try and abide by as well but if it's not impossible you can tweet us you can follow us if it's not impossible show us photos of what you're working on if it's not impossible now and certainly go and visit us at www.notimpossiblenow.com to tell us your stories because we believe that this is truly and we like to hear about what everyone's doing and promote everyone and what they're up to so that everybody's causes can get furthered like we say there's no degree of separation anymore from someone with a good idea and someone willing to implement it and it doesn't matter where around the globe you are that that can be affected especially with people with the skills that you guys have so it's been a pleasure to present this to you this morning and I really enjoy and look forward to Q&A at the end of the session after Kofi speaks as well but thank you again Thank you Elliot for a great presentation and now I'll hand it over to Kofi for his talk Hi Yes Kofi, it's all yours Yes thank you very much for the invitation and this opportunity so you give us to to present our modest initiative in Togo before talk about 3-day printing I would like to present our space Wellab this philosophy a law I take that we guide everything we do in Wellab Wellab is Wellab Wellab is a space very inspiring by the Fab Lab and the maker movement and it's also a space where we try to show the proximity between the maker movement and our African traditions so it's a space we try to bring collaboration and try to put in front this ethic of sharing between our young community it's also a space you can find tools and of course CNC machine like in every Fab Lab so Wellab is also a community we have about 20 members in our group the middle age is 19 years old we have about 30 percent of girls and in this space we make a lot of workshops on this period of democracy technology to share our knowledge and help young people to develop a technological project so the philosophy of Wellab is what we call low high tech try to do a very high technological project that in the respect of our our possibilities and our culture we use a lot of US in Wellab because we want also to do things in low cost low cost way and they they in Wellab you can come and try to share your knowledge with everyone technological project with everyone and one of the projects we develop is this Gerald project who try to make computer ourselves in plastic can so we are well known all over the world for our 3D printer projects and they were fact 3D printer and this 3D printer was the first the first one born in Africa and we have the the specificity to be also a 3D printer make entirely with e-waste and it is a machine that Adrian Boere see as the future of the 3D printing that everybody don't have the faith of Adrian Boere and a lot of people ask us how we do with this machine and how we try to solve a very urgent problem with this machine so since some months we launch a lot of programs social programs research programs to try to find a very useful application for this machine we create in well-app I would just like to present to you 3 of this programs developed in well-app the first one is the program we call Africa Ciber to the printing cafe and the objective of this program is to really democratize the access to this technology and encourage an habitual use in 3D printers in the Ciber cafe we have another program based on research that we call 3D printers conference and we try to bring together specialists in a specific domain and we present them our technology and we ask them to help us to find application in their their domain and we begin this with medicine and in live December we organize a big conference with the most known doctor of the country and after this we have a contract with our National Center of Potatoes who give us some pieces we try to we are trying to replicate the last program I would like to present to you is the 3D print educational program and the objective of this program is to put the 3D printer in the hands of the very young people because we saw that we are maybe very old ourselves to find very creative utility for this technology but the young boys and girls we have in our community who have about 14, 15 years old are very creative with the 3D printer so we launch this program and we test it in a school in our neighborhood and we have about 11 young boys and girls who are learning about drawing in 3D and print in 3D so very quickly all these many programs we try to launch to help us find application, creative application and useful application for this machine we develop in our space, thank you great, thank you so much for an insightful talk Kofi and now we will open up for Q&A and questions on the income again please use the Q&A window located below the chat window to type in your questions for the presenter so we will start with the Q&A now and Elliot maybe this is a question you can answer one of our audience has asked the robot hand is a very inspirational project and you've definitely made progress with it but was finding funding for the project challenging for you in the initial stages absolutely we have a some call it idiotic we call it reckless that we have an approach that we commit to something and then we figure out a way to do it so Nick has three young boys and I have one young boy and so we felt like this was a project that needed to happen so we set a date for it before we knew whether it was going to be possible or not and when you have a company that is called not impossible you're pretty much tasked with doing these sorts of things and so really Nick and I will both have other jobs so we were kind of putting our time in full time a pro bono on these projects at first it's now developed to a point where we can't do that anymore because it's grown into a bigger operation but we basically were putting things on credit cards while we talked to brands about coming on board and whether they believed in the mission and we were thankful that both Intel Intel came on board that very close to the time we were taking off so most of the things were paid for in advance in terms of flights and things like that and the printers and the filament and also plastic materials and then a company called Pressipart a precision engineering company that is I think Swiss has a genesis in Switzerland but we were working with their team in upstate New York and they came on board to support the project as well so we were thankful obviously that we were able to cover the cost of the project that way but we have other active projects now that don't have funding yet but we're just making them happen using primarily volunteers until a point where we're able to bring a brand on board and ensure that the project can get made and get finished in the best way possible. Thank you another question is again for you Elliot is that how do you see collaboration from engineers from obviously doctors involved how did you do that successfully and if you want to share that experience? Yeah, actually most of our projects the initial conversations take place in Google Hangouts if they're one on one they take place in Skype often but Google Hangouts predominantly and the cool thing was that we had people coming in who were physical therapists who offered a pragmatic look at hey this is going to be a tool that is going to be worn for a long period of time let's make sure that it's breathable. Others coming in and saying well the mechanics and the leverage you're getting from this Fulcrum Point can be enhanced by adding a second small cuff to tie the cabling to on the top of the tricep. So there were people who kind of came up with different ideas and then of course Richard who invented the Robohand was letting us know what difficulties he'd faced in the last couple of years as he toured the world helping people and giving them new hands to use so the body of the hand itself that it went to the Sudan is kind of more enclosed so it's a little bit more protected and basically everybody's suggestions were kind of taken on board and then the engineers were used to either the digital engineers were used to design the prosthetic and then it really was a truly collaborative process. What was the coolest thing I think was also getting on the phone to Dr. Tom and this speaks to what coffee is doing as well is that we got on the phone with Dr. Tom in the Nuba Mountains and just asked him what he had in his possession like what he had that he threw away every day what kind of materials was there IV tubing and if so did it have an elastic component to it were there needles what gauge were the needles were they able to be sterilized and potentially used as cross screws and cross pieces to bear some of the weight inside the hand how much cardboard was he throwing away every day were we able to use it for paper mache or do some other things with it and it didn't matter whether we used it ended up using ideas or not but taking that look at what was available from a waste element led to the thinking about how sustainable the practice would be and how sustainable this lab setup would be and I think we all hope that at some point the plastics that PET things like that could be easily translated into 3D filaments so that we could both take waste and use it for something purposeful like building prosthetic limbs and things like that using 3D printers but the collaboration was actually the most fun and on all our projects we start with Google Hangouts and then eventually to help the person we're helping we need to get them all in the one place Thanks This question for you as well that in terms of funding and for setting up such a massive project in Africa did you face that challenge and also did you have any political interference from powerful people what were some of the challenges you faced while setting up O-Lab and working on the 3D printer We are a very very young community and what we try to do is to be independent and do what we can do with the resources we have in our hands so we develop programs and we try to launch innovative programs but we can't I don't know how to say this we can't very in a very long way we need help if we want to change the scale to really have a big impact but what we do now is to do what we can with our resources in O-Lab and maybe if the results are very efficient that can give birth to more ambitious programs maybe for all the country or for all Africa Thanks Here's a question maybe both of you can answer since 3D printers take a long time how have you tackled the problem of stable power supplies in the context where you work both of you could answer Elliot maybe you want to answer first Yes that was definitely a concern with the prints taking a while and that's why the new printers also are so important some of the new printer models have a tool that if something happens they will stop the print and then they will restart the print when they get their power source going back on or when the filament is fixed or when some other issue like overheating the extruders is fixed but most of the printers still continue to ghost print or failed to print and so you're left with a mess of filament and having to use that time again to build something new so it is definitely a problem in the Sudan the conditions in the shed during the day was so hot that the filament was sticking to itself so basically that was hacked a solution by putting the filament up on a very high spool so that it was constantly hanging rather than just sitting at the back of the printer where it was supposed to go and then again because the filament was sticking the decision was made to print at night when most other people were not using the electricity and again it was a solar powered hospital with a backup generator and so the decision was made to do it at night and then the problem there was that the lights of the 3D printers attracted bugs so they were literally quite literally bugs in the system in the morning so we had to set up some screens to protect the printers from that as well Kofi how did you handle that? Yes, we don't have we don't have electricity every day even in WELAB that what I can see is that is Africa Yeah that's funny I was definitely afraid that was repeated to us often was TIA this is Africa so I guess indeed I can emphasize So how did you manage to work around it then Kofi did you have earlier talked about a backup generator there obviously that's probably not a practical solution so how do you deal with power outage? No, unfortunately we don't have solutions for this program we don't have generator we don't have enough resources to have an alternative for the electricity maybe we should try to find solutions with solar panels but from now we don't have solutions for this program but next Kofi another question that came in for you it's great that you're putting this tech in front of children what are some of the interesting things that kids are using 3D printing for in WELAB? We are just at the beginning of this program and what we we see is that our young members are more interested in this technology than even a fact who have the idea to create this machine is not as very interesting like Daniel for example who have 14 years old so we think that this young boys and girls will create things more efficient like us when they will have the the matrix of this machine for now they just print gadgets, badges etc but in some years if we begin very now with young young people we can hope that in some years they create things very useful and I got it to our African contest Great. A related question that came in is that you know somebody interested who's wanting to go to schools and offer a sort of seminar for kids to you how to use 3D printers how do you choose what age is appropriate one and how do you keep them interesting in the project? For either of you can answer the question We actually have this team like I mentioned in the presentation we have the team working on the robot walker who is 16 we didn't choose we didn't necessarily choose to have a team of 16 year olds they expressed an interest in working on this project because they have interest in robotics and they're part of a robotics club and thankfully there's a school that has that in California which like is rare even in even in a major city so they are like very well-versed in having access to these tools and it's pretty amazing to see and just my son is too young to to operate a 3D printer that mix sons 10, 8 and 4 and what's great to see there is that they always want to print something when they come in from school or when they visit the office and they're generally printing toys but also nuts and bolts and other things and what's great is the mentality that they want to print a toy rather than go buy a toy so I know in developing countries it's not it's not the same luxury but but here in the US it's good to see that it creates a mentality of creation and creativity rather than just a consumer mentality and I think that's going to that's going to serve some kids well and we also presented it to International Science Fair that Intel runs and just what we saw people using 3D printing for there was pretty incredible everything from exoskeletons to kind of Oculus Rift type glasses, glass casings housings, virtual reality and augmented reality so I don't know how young is too young but I think that whenever someone shows an inclination or an openness to looking at different things I think the younger the better because then they don't see the barriers that we see have a generation above Thanks, has a question for both of you it's very interesting, if the large international aid organizations have seen your work what has been their reaction? Kofi, you want to go first? Kofi, would you like to answer? Yes, can you repeat the question? If have any large international aid organizations seen your work if so what has been their reaction? No, no we don't have any international organization who who work with us we are really a marginal original for now we don't have work with any any organization we have just two years old and we are just at the beginning maybe we don't not yet very known for have this type of collaboration We're a young company too Project Daniel though because of the amount of press that received was on CNN and things like that and those sorts of media exposure that it received really did create awareness amongst some institutional operations including some facets of the United Nations and they were curious to see how much it would cost to have actually a Daniel kit like how much it would cost to have a couple of printers and filament and to integrate it when they go into a place to add this tool kit how much that would cost to the unit and the discussions really didn't go beyond that yet with that institution that that was something that they were mindful of and definitely reached out to us and then there have been other nonprofits and other entities that set up kind of medical tents and other kind of medical they'll come in for three days and do a treatment facility for three days and they were also curious to see whether this was something that could be implemented in their operations and like we say we're happy for anyone to take this technology and use these open source files and we totally believe in the open source movement in that regard that all these things can be made better and better for that local condition so we're more than happy to provide that information to people. Great thanks another question again open to both of you is that an audience wants to know can we are there any other prospects of 3D printing about from medical users and education in developing countries that are getting everywhere or is it subject to some requirements needed before use and implementation? Look for me I think it can be used everywhere we've seen people in Haiti use it to again like people in Sudan that we're introduced to of course like most people here in the US have never seen a 3D printer in operation so to bring it to a place where the education system is not as regimented the people, the trainees who are working in Sudan on this project have the equivalent of what we would think of in developed nations is like a 4th to 6th grade education and they have absolutely no trouble picking up this technology so again I don't see any access I think that's the beauty of it is that the access is not limited as long as they can get their hands on this equipment and Kelfi is showing that you can get your hands on this equipment no matter where you are, no matter what tools you have as long as you have the mindset you can make it happen but yeah in Haiti they were using it to create 3D printed umbilical cord clamps in another part of the country we saw people using it to create airwaves for people whose tracheas were collapsing or who needed some access to air you've seen it being used for as I say we've got some people using it for kind of exoskeleton devices at minimal costs and disability to kind of prototype things with minimal that are pretty complex at a minimal cost is pretty incredible so I think that's going to make sure that it has a wide use in all places if it can happen in a solar powered hospital in Sudan essentially a war zone then it should be able to happen everywhere I think we have time for one last question again open to both of you how can 3D printing technologies be harnessed to leapfrog the infrastructure problems in many developing countries would you like to comment on that Elliot or Kofi I think in country like ours where the informal sector is very big this technology can help a lot because we we are very dependent about everything we use in Africa we are very dependent for the west and with this technology we can begin to try to produce some elements we don't need to pay for with high cost and it is also a technology which is in our our culture we have the culture of this to try to do things ourselves naturally in Africa if some governments use this technology like a developing way for our nation I think we can have very good results even in infrastructure ways thank you Kofi and Elliot for taking our time today that's all we have time for today so on behalf of E4C I would like to thank you all once again for joining us today this is Chitra Seti, managing editor of ASME.org have a good day thank you thank you