 Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho I will go right to your stupid directions, of course. That's Rick. You can follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Twitter, Facebook, contact us. Take the picture. Follow us through the comments. Subscribe to the like button. Milf Manor. That was one of the things that came up. One of the young guys was unfamiliar with the labia. Manor or Bajor? And when he was embarrassed by it, he said, I just need to know where the hole is to put it in. Yes, ladies and gentlemen. Yes, that's what we're talking about. Yeah. Today, we have a video. This is a shower con beneath the surface. And this is a... It's taken of labia. Yeah, the film companion. So she's the... Yes, I forget her name. Does the interviews, yeah, she'll tell us. But she goes like, I think, where he was born. And this is like a multi-part series. Awesome. This is the first part. Relatively recent, I hope. Like 2016. Okay. So it's been a few years. It's been a few years, pre-COVID. Yeah. But let's just get into it. Sorry, my wife isn't here. I don't know how much over that, so here you go. Sorry, this is the 21st year of our conversations. Wow. Yeah. I first came to see you, April. We have an old book to prove it. But I first came to see you, April 1995 on the set of Round Back. Oh, that long back. That long back? You were wearing a purple suit. Yeah. I still have it. You still have it? Yeah. Cool weather, night writers. That's why I spoke. I'm inspired by my book. What a long journey. I met a bad guy. Yeah. And he got so disturbed the way I played the bad guy. Oh. He said, which bad guy have you seen? It doesn't make a shot under the sun. Yeah. He said, which bad guy have you seen? It doesn't make a shot under the sun. That's right. He got so angry. I'm sorry. I'm new to Mumbai. I don't know the bad guys from Mumbai. It's a cold chain. Now, if anyone is flashy, why don't you wear a shirt? So you said things like four or five expressions. People think I'm gimmicky. Balls to them. Which I thought was very funny. Balls to them. This was, of course, pre-DDLJ's release. But my sense is that inherently you're still that guy. You're still charming. Really cocky. Very funny. Relatable. And somehow still larger than life. Is that a correct assessment? Are you still that man? I am. I mean, you know, people don't really change. I mean, to talk about evolving and XYZ. But there are certain beliefs that we live by. When you're younger, maybe it seems even stupid. But you talk more like that. But I think what you say on your childhood is who you are. You may garb it in better speech categories. I mean, I don't say balls to them anymore. I just say, yeah, I fall. You just don't polite me enough. To be is to you. I fall. But I think somewhere whether that belief was misplaced, whether that belief was right, whether it was something that comes instinctively from inside. I think that's what you are. Because sometimes you'll see yourself. That's your essence. Yeah, that's what I sense. Like you meet your son and you'll be chatting. And how is he eating now? He's going to be. Yeah, and he'll just say something. And you're like, how can you talk like this? Yeah, all the time. It's not right. It's not, no, no. But you know that he will be that person. Of course, he curbs his way of talking. Of course, he'll understand better. But I think the essence comes out in that period of life. So the body. Bodyguard. Yeah, deep down inside. Probably. Take off my shirt. Got it. Got a six. It's close to that. Yeah. Yeah, definitely bodyguard. I'm going to take your word for that. I was actually. You know, it's appropriate that we're having this conversation in Lisbon while you're creating a love story with Imtiaz Ali and Anushka Sharma. And you've spent half your life playing a man in love. With women who belong to other men. We're just selling Imtiaz and Anushka. Just before the show, the conversation when you were watching wasn't about the scene. I just told them I've made an art and profession out of loving women who are going to get married to someone, who are already married, who are engaged, who have done after them. And then I get them from wherever they are, from any corner, sometimes from charm, sometimes from goodness, sometimes I throw them off the building, but I have a problem. That's accepted. I have to accept it. I have to accept it. It's a problem. It's chronic. Maybe to do something about it. And the only thing I find doing about it is just keep doing it again and again and again maybe one day. And you can take it off me. But, Jhar, has your understanding of love and the portrayal of it in the cinema, has it altered a lot? Or did you find yourself sort of going through the same beats? It will sound a little pompous and all annoying, but I know all facets of it. However strange it may sound, me saying it, when in interviews, I'm very honest. So I'm telling you. It's a shocking thing. You might find a person who knows all the theorems. You may find a person who knows all the plays of Shakespeare. And you find a lot of people who have all the knowledge about films. I am a lot like that. I honestly am. What does that mean? I am beautiful. I'm physically beautiful. God damn right. I am love incarnate. I'm charming. I make you glow. I make you sad. I destroy you. I disgust you. God damn right. I create longing for you. I create longing for you. Who's that person just yelling in the back? That happened to me. The best thing that could happen to me. So I am genuine. And I believe in love. That I'm not just a man with love or man with love or woman with love or sensuality. I think you know. All kind of love. Okay. I know love very well. So I understand that Techo Prasad when he tells me who did what. I understand in Tejas' way. And he told me once that you know sir I was a little wary he wouldn't tell you about love but I can suddenly know what he means and where he's coming from without wanting to know his back story. All of us have a back story which is kind of exposed in our cinema. Especially light doesn't act us till less. I'm not saying I'll be able to deliver as I know love because of Disney and bound by my life expression. I really, really need to say yeah man can I sense this? Can I feel it? Can I hold myself back? Okay this thing is actually in a love story. I keep doing it actually. As you see Adi would do this scene like this. Karan would do it like this. Because he's that love. He's that love. Tejas would do it like this. I get really intrigued about it. It's fortunate and unfortunate. That if you try something completely in a dark space in a love story I think people will get a little a bit too shocking. Yeah they like it and they should be like that. I mean when you did in Canc when you went into that hotel and you know people couldn't believe it was you with somebody else's wife. Yeah. And just to tell you it was a body double. It was like that. And I see movies everybody's doing it. That's right. That's right. Yeah. I was really taken aback when people reacted to that film. And I think. They didn't want to see an affair. Cynical. Angry. You know. And I remember somebody saying he started to see his face. So I kept my face in and I stopped it. Yeah. You only covered it. I don't remember that. Yeah. And then suddenly I got a feedback. You know. He's been doing all these things. Filming episodes. I saw it on his face. So I was like it's just a movie. And you know that's one place where you have to have extreme amount of feeling of expression. But if I'm going to be curbed sometimes the reactions. Like you know it will be sharp. Will you pay attention to it? Does it bother you? No. I still say what do you say to anyone. But it does make the filmmaker actually think. Right. They become a little well known. I mean I didn't talk to Karan. He was here. Me too. He was like he doesn't do it with you. It's a big backlash. You know. I saw Suhana in a school play and she was really good. And so I tweeted about how she was really good. And you tweeted back to say that it's the same face but she has I have so much to learn from her. She has so much more brevity and grace. Do you think after all these years that you still haven't quite cultivated enough brevity and grace? No. Really? Two things have happened in the world. When I see someone like Suhana I mean obviously there's a bias of whatever people think because she's my daughter. But some young actors Ali I have just finished a book. I just so amazed by the lack of life they have lived but they can still express so much without all the expressions of life or having felt that. My assumption is I think Agnya has it. Suhana has it. There's still more to see. You know you always say you know when you see life and the experiences come on and without having the experience still being able to convey emotions which I would take much longer because so isn't that my experience has given me more expressions and my brevity is gone. You see craft is tangible. It can bind you know there's a method. Art is free flowing. That's how we believe art. Instinctive. Instinctive. The buoyant, the flies. It just comes. It just comes. Yeah, yeah. But craft as you go by starts binding. Good observation. It can absolutely do that. You start thinking of so many things. Yes. Fix it. Make it right. Get the points right. Make it stick like You should learn it all and then forget it. You start asking that too often as an actor. When I see her so far do what she does. It's such a little because she's still not bound by the craft. And hopefully before she gets bound the art would have taken place. I mean I've been given that opportunity. I'm not tripping. I think I had that opportunity. But naturally I think the craft coming in takes away and then the nicest way to deal with it is to work with people who are not bound by the craft as yet. Have free flowing art and then imbibe what they do. Take it from there. So I do that. I think Nagya is very good. I think she's really good. Amongst the new people I haven't really seen doing any of her work. But it genuinely makes you happy. It makes me happy. I don't like many actors and violence towards one another. Why? What does happen? It just is. It's always nice. Somebody told me politicians all around the world abuse in public and hug in private. Actors all around the world hug in public and abuse in private. So that is not true. And it would make it's not a bad thing. It's not like I think I have the ease now. I don't have to prove it. I don't have to get it right. So I'm like okay let me just come in and see. I'm not in repair. I think I just need to know my lines. I need to know my focus points. I need to understand what the scene is going to be. Yeah, know your lines and hit your mark. No I'll just keep on. It's a good idea. It's a good idea. It's a good idea. It's a good idea. It's a good idea. It's a good idea. Nice to meet you. Good apartment number 10. Done. I love it. Is it OK? It's good. It's good. You are not a human being. пол I think Chey is a human being. It's a good question. I don't know what I'd like it. Very nice. Granted she might have made it herself. So, you know I was reading this thing David Fincher said a couple of years ago that I'm not interested in movies that entertain. He said I love movies that star. That's a very nice marriage to George is that I could never swim in the ocean again. You're of course sort of 40 is always been entertainment. But after all these years, do you want to sit and want to do something else? Do you want it to start to educate? See, it's a one can taste it like how David Fincher asked. But I think George was extremely entertaining. Of course. And yeah, you can find it people meaning in your cinema as time goes by. And you can only find it most people have sort of decided what they liked or disliked about it. See, I can't make up my mind. You can't do it before. I don't think so. But I wanted fan to shake you up and entertain you as well. God, if this happens, it is scary. And it isn't interestingly scary. And it can happen actually to me. Not that it has. But it has enough to shake you up. This is really pushing it. Suppose a guy looking like him gets completely taken in and obsessed. And I meet people who love me so much. I keep telling people those look like we want to look like they love you all. It's really not only just complimentary, it's just so honest. When I was young, I thought I would like XYZ. Your mom thought you look like Dilip Kumar. Yeah. I thought I looked like Mr. Fajan. He did not. The girl said I was like that. She knows why. But I said the mom. You decide that primarily I want to entertain. That is my sort of reason for being here. When you say that, you must be primarily thinking to entertain. I think for 25 years. And genuinely, I'm not just having this stupid belief in myself. I've never thought of a film as an entertaining being. I'm like, let me just do this. This is fun. Like, I think this film that Karan has made here isn't it? If you have any things for Karuna, you don't think you can. He does not. People have a lot of things to say. But I think it's very interesting. I think it's a very nice film to be made. And if I can add to it, by just learning this new experience, because perhaps I don't have the age to do a full film like that anymore, or stage, or start a movie too big perhaps, or whatever the reason is. I just didn't have to offer like that. It's very interesting to be a part of that film. Let's see what it does to the world. I mean, I'd be lying if I said, I would like my cinema to be like that and not be rushing to be successful. I would like that. But when it doesn't happen, it's not the... Okay. Nice. That was the end of the first part awesome. I'm glad there's another part. I like I Like the format and I did too It's more non-formal than a sit-down very much of these and obviously he knows her well Yeah, I'm not comfortable with trust sir answering these questions, but sure. Yeah, he's It's it's a lot of what he's kind of illustrated before You know, he knows what he is and he knows what it's all the insides back Yeah, to sometimes branch out of that. Yeah, because it's fun. Yeah And stuff like that, but it's always so interesting to hear him talk I always love he's a well articulated man. Yeah, very well articulated and he is such every time you listen to him in this interview, especially You recognize There's really no one on earth like Shahrukh Khan in his not just his experiences that he's gone through in his stature Yeah, but his perspective and his approach to movie making and is it is singularly unique So many things he said there that would never be my thoughts, but that doesn't make them right or wrong I just make some different approaches to why you make a movie and what you expect to get out of the movie making process and the fact that Mega stardom in India is just so so so different. It's it's an Acting in India is different very and what audience expect what I it's their mega star true What audience is expect and it's you know, it's wonderful because he clearly has the capacity to recognize Good as we call thespianatic craft what he said is very true about Craft is important, but it can be binding because you've become in your head and You start to think too much about what you're doing rather than just being in the moment the objective of craft and it doesn't make sense But the objective of craft is spontaneous living and You you the only way to be spot. It's like in sports You train on the disciplines, but you can't be thinking about them when you do them They have to be second nature and you can't pre-think. I'm gonna run to center field on this pitch You can't do that to the balls hit you have to go with whatever is being given to you but you need to know how to do everything at once and It's very true that if you learn craft it can be a very very binding but that's kind of where his approach to Movie making and what he does is very different. There's so many things he'd be so much so interesting to work with I think he would be a singular experience on like any other movie star or actor because his approach I think there'd be times I agree with him wholeheartedly about an approach and then there'd be times I disagree wholeheartedly. Yeah, but you'd have to trust what he's saying and What he does succeeds? just the Like I said super stardom is completely different whole world than what even like Noa's has obviously Because he's not Noa's audience expect something much different from Noa's right and the audience is expect from Shah Rukh Khan. Absolutely And vice versa Even though I would love, you know Like one day like them to just switch and have different roles and stuff like that But it's just they know what audiences want From him and with when they didn't get that they rejected it like so you was talking about and can't even I haven't seen I know what the story's about obviously, right and we've heard love affair and we've heard I know and Johnny likes that movie. Mm-hmm. I don't know if you would you hate movies with affairs in them It depends on what's being depicted, but yeah, if if if a if a good person is being cheated on I'm not a I don't I think that movie is actually I don't try that There's two sets of relationships that are being cheated on with each other. Mm-hmm. I think that's the thing Hard to watch personally I love affairs Anyways fantastic look forward to the the other parts And let us know what other videos we can react to down below