 what's up but not what's up Atlas meeting for the first time in this lifetime yep how you doing so good I'm so excited that so excited that you found you found what we were up to and you reached out and you're also up to great things with your mathematical metaphysics YouTube channel and you wanted to have a conversation and on Earth's awakening and so I'm pumped bro absolutely man I mean Earth's awakening it's happening right now and it's been happening so it seems like let's help out yeah like we've been saying ignite the word we've been using is ignite with the mission igniting global awakening igniting it yeah so igniting meaning like catalysts so yeah so we're catalyzing it and so you do that through things like this content and people watch that content and then they go oh what is Earth's awakening what is my true nature and how do I empty myself of self-interest and how do I purely serve my other selves and that's really at the core of it at the heart of it and so we'll we'll play in all these different types of ways of pointing basically at it and then hopefully you'll serve in as those catalysts exactly and I mean I think that Earth is experiencing a major catalyst the pandemic being just one of them there are many catalysts on many levels and I love ignition I think of a nucleation as well because it since I do work in a school it's a bit of a slower process right the ignition hat can happen when I mean that's the beauty actually that the ignition sometimes can happen instantaneously and actually I'd like to ask you when did you awaken and when do you and you might consider that to be a series of events you might that consider to be one major moment but I'm just curious nice yeah for me it started with a desire for truth and wanting that more than anything the last 10 years and just always perpetually knowing that there was more to discover about life there was a deeper meaning to who we were and why we were here and that it was nowhere in the standard cultural dialogue which was also super confusing yeah and so then you had to dig and I had to dig and dig and so I dug through things like entrepreneurship I dug through things like science and then I dug through spirituality and I ended up synthesizing and distilling basically the core wisdoms from those disciplines into what ended up being sort of these moments of holy fuck like Satori experiences these realizations that are totally irreversible and yeah there there were several moments yeah one specifically last year around this time so the end of 2020 and yeah I remember it was a it was an a Sufi metaphysic that goes what that I will Jude and it means the unity of all being or the and when when initially I was looking at that I was feeling like hmm it sort of aligns with things like Tatvam assi you are that I and my father are one John 10 30 and for me it wasn't that special it was like just knowing concepts across the different mystic lineages and knowing it intellectually okay we're all one we're all one I see I get it I get it blah blah and then William Chittick wrote a piece in the Ibn Arabi society on the Sufi metaphysic I'm what that all would you and I had never seen the nuance of this before and he said that in the phrase what that all would you means less of the unity of all being and more so the unity of all finding when I read that I went into quite an intense nervous system shock because I finally grok at a more heart level at a more gut level who I am what is I because when you think about it in terms of the unity of all finding you sort of recognize that oh it is the one through all of these different individuals finding through the veil is veil through this veil of forgetting finding itself in all these different tastes and flavors and combinations and paths some people go to retreat some people take entheogens some people read books some people sit with different teachers all this type of stuff and I did a mix of all of those things and I was so blown away by how profound it was to feel the one finding itself through all of the different individuals and all of their different journeys and so for like 10 minutes I was just like crying in the fetal position and just like holy shit and then and then there were several other distinct like pops but basically it was it was a series of and and I would say now it's more about purification than anything else so right now I would say it's more about emptiness and more about no self than anything else so yeah so in Buddhism you get to you could say both shunyata as well as anata so emptiness as well as void as well as no self and and initially again you're studying this a year or two ago and you're like okay concept concept and then eventually it actually hits your heart and it hits your gut because you recognize that what one means by the path of purification is it means the emptying of self interest and it means being purely in service to your other selves so you're always in a sense available with wisdom and with love unified together which we'll probably talk about as well and that you're serving without any interest in being validated or being seen or being worthy for that process basically your cup is always full your son is always radiating and then the no self component meaning that you've recognized you've seen through the illusion of that there is no self located here in the lower case as self or what we refer to as me or mine or I perpetually in a localized body has been seen through and you recognize that what you actually are is a formless infinite intelligence that is creating endlessly and that you are all you are all and you are so you are everything and you are no thing you aren't a thing at the same time because you're a field it's field recognition and and so yeah so I would say those were sort of the the satori's that led me up to basically the path of purification now which is what you could call doing the work so now it's about doing the work which is purifying where you're coming from doing a fuckload of cleanup so if you're if you're physical space and you're digital space and your relationships and your general administration of life your health and wellness and your state of being are not cleaned up which is what we're doing right now in no limit society with Bintino and on a rock if you're if those things are not cleaned up then they will show up in the way you express yourself in a distorted way and so by cleat by doing the cleanup you purify where you're coming from so that way you're actually serving life you're serving life awakening you're serving earth's awakening that was beautiful thanks brother you made the the choice as raw calls it the third density choice which is to or rather the choice to serve others as yourself I mean the self disappears the more and more you serve is that what fair to say yeah that's a great way to put it yeah the lower case as self disappears the more you serve and the capital as self god slash no self opens exactly yeah the one the void is also the plenum right the the the infinite state is also the empty state and combined we could call that as frank yang would say the natty state the natty state baby the natty state and the idea is to always is to cherish each experience right I mean and cherish means not just let's adore it because if you're in a car accident you know are you gonna it's not quite appropriate to it just adore what's happening so so I suppose that's I loved hearing where you're at I just want to share where I'm at yeah of course I I guess also in the purification process and very much focusing on when things do go wrong when there appear to be mistakes or shortcomings or distortions that arise which can't just be shrugged off something that happens like a physical illness or a physical injury catalyst that has not been properly mentally processed and now becomes physical right and it's something you can't just will away right that's that that dynamical part of perfection with where it's it we're not just in a perfect state where everything is where no action needs to be taken some catalyst forces and induces action and it's tricky to keep unity at the forefront when you are evolving away from a certain state due to catalyst does that does that make sense yes yeah great way to put in another way to say that is that all is a school all is a video game that you designed that's the that's the important thing if you can grok that at a faster you can liberate yourself from the victim mentality and shift to the creator mentality and recognize that I designed my own video game for myself my own school for myself and then I see catalysts as things that are not oh I'm gonna be small I'm a victim of all of these catalysts my circumstances but rather my state of being my vibration my frequency itself is generating my reality and the more that my state of being itself is more empty of self-interest and more purely in service to others more God realized or capitalist self realized the more that my circumstances my reality will actually mirror that and that they will be just like so just not and so yes you're right when you do get something really difficult as a catalyst you created it and at that time it's not meant to be everything is absolute flowers it's meant to be like there's gonna be some pain but it's up to you if that creates suffering or not physical pain does not equal suffering ever ever physical pain itself is horrible I had a very very bad a little over a year ago in injury on the left side of my body were fractured along it fractured a rib it punctured my lung deflate all this type of stuff and I remember just going back like in the car in severe pain on the way to the hospital and just the people that were in the car were just like dude how is this guy so meditative I was saying things like your greatest traumas are your greatest treasures in the car on the way to the hospital and and it was just so great because it's all about your state of being it's all about that state of being can you see even in the most intense pain possible rather than suffering and complaining and whining that you created it that it's a catalyst for you and yeah so that that would be my take on it and it was such a fun direct experience that I had with that like in September yeah 2020 yeah it knowing that you programmed it that's the nutty part right because locally speaking I mean if you're a scientifically minded person everything is localistically evolving right I mean you're moving things and how can you control anything that's outside of you the aura these kinds of things don't even make sense in a scientific well the pre-scient pre-synthesis right yeah pre-quantum really pretty yeah I mean you talked to Langen so you so I mean he's working on distributing quantum properties over all of reality so even what we're saying you know speaking is a quantum mechanical action and I mean I think the but that's where that's where things start to ease is where you start to realize that things are self-programmed it's just that you know your higher self and then of course the highest self the self with the capital S is well that's the question right there's pre-incarnation programming as well I mean let's say that you are you know your two parents and all of a sudden your child is born with a form of cerebral palsy I'm wondering what your take on pre-incarnation programming is with respect to genetic genetic deformities degenerative diseases even genetic predispositions I mean are you do you actively think about this not actively but this is a very cool question and it it kind of plays into the color palette a lot in terms of you know the ones not going to solely incarnate with no birth difficulties birth deficiencies and it you know everything's in an entangled state so meaning that as you call a birth deficiency it's also a birth gift or a birth experience in a sense so you you made an agreement to incarnate full on behalf of the one so you could have the experience of what it's like to have hearing in only one ear you know one of my friends here has that issue and if he and this is a thing like it sucks of course but it's also like something like wow I'm having this experience that I created on behalf of the one and that there's even worse scenarios than that like you were describing like horrible neurodegeneration things like people dying when they're just a kid this does this type of stuff and you know it's you you know that's another thing it's you it's this boundless energy that's doing that and that wants to experience that wants to learn from that but at the same time you're having these incredible scientific advancements like being able to reprogram DNA using technologies like CRISPR and whatnot where for example you can eradicate genetic mutations that cause horrible diseases upon birth so we're really you know we're activating a lot of Godlike potential which is fat which is fantastic but we do simultaneously need to awaken our consciousness to be able to understand the unity underneath of everything so that we don't create any malevolences along the way with these Godlike technologies so both the the spiritual or the metaphysical side of incarnation in that way but also in terms of the the physical and the chemistry and the biology and the technology side of things we actually are on behalf of the one moving forward with less and less diseases and more and more successful incarnations with less and less deaths at young ages so medicine is improving and what about to round off what I would think is what are the barriers to fourth density graduation or the earth's awakening what about nuclear weapons that's a Godlike power that we have they can't be uninvented how do you foresee let's say in the next 50 years human kinds dealing with these weapons nice so I found that the interior and exterior are in a feedback loop with each other so as in like consciousness and physicalism are in a feedback loop with each other so meaning like if you if you don't have your basic needs being met and you're working 80 hours a week at minimum wage that it's going to be really hard for you to be able to pick up Robin of Maharshi's who am I and but now if your basic needs are met and you do have more freedom with your time then you will eventually deplete yourself of interest in substances and experiences and relationships and material possessions and you'll be like well okay how can I have eternal peace and happiness well the answer is who am I what is I is seeking inward and so we have to have both happening simultaneously so for the answer with nuclear weapons it would be a state of a state change like a planetary constitutionalization as no nuclear weapons first of all and so from that consciousness then of we are one we are depleting ourselves of all nuclear weapons we will never have nuclear war from there then the architectures become so that there's no nuclear weapons they're designed the models are designed so that there's no nuclear weapons but from a state change at a level of like the united nations general assembly from a level of also on the grassroots so there's no there's no there's no risings from within countries that are interested in especially with the border politics and border violence with disputes over religion and land and resources that there's also no activation of malevolence from a grassroots level because people understand at the same time that they are one with their neighbors and that they and their neighbors can actually have tea and have conversation and have love for each other because they are looking at themselves they are not looking at a separate other and this constitutionalization do you think it includes pronouncing basic human needs as human rights because as far as I'm concerned the Geneva Conventions doesn't I mean does it include water food and shelter as human rights I mean do you think these should be these should be human rights correct yeah it's in the SDGs I'm not sure if it's in the Geneva Convention but yes it is in the SDGs zero hunger education for all clean water for all shelter safety clean energy modern cities yeah these types of things and yeah so coinciding with this constitutionalization have you heard of Chris Langans meta-religion idea do you think that that the religions will do you think that we can in a constitutional fashion unite all religions under the law of one I love that bro such a good question such a good thread for us to play on yeah because when it's so funny when you when you look at some of the greatest that have that have spoken about what the nature is they're all synthesis they all pulled from all of the different mystic traditions they pulled from different retreats where they sat in silence they sat in emptiness they investigated the nature of impermanence they they took entheogens themselves they unleashed God within thanks to things like DMT psilocybin etc and and they're all doing things like you heard me at the very beginning what did I say I said I said wadat al wujud tatva masi I and my father are one I just pulled from you know five billions five billion peoples where where they look at for their for their spirituality right and so and so that's that's the type of thing I think that we're heading towards is that ET style consciousness like law of one like you suggested where you're like looking at what does earth look like when it's graduated in a couple thousand years where earth is in fact all unified all basic needs are met everybody is prospering everybody's actualizing their fullest potential everybody knows the nature of reality everybody's basically just designing better and better ways to maximize prosperity and flourishing and everybody's playing everybody's relaxed and and so I love that I love that mentality of like what does it look like and how do we how do we constitutionalize ourselves as the future as that and then reverse engineer okay so what do we need to do today and in a month and in a year and in three years in order to be able to get to that that which is already done it's also already done like we have to view it that way at the same time the enlightened civilization by 2035 is already done being and finding our non-dual to each other I mean you have stasis and you have dynamism we're we're we're driving towards this for for density earth but we're also arriving as it's happening and that's where that's where I'm trying to vibrate the most is is it's so exciting I mean just the prospect of international peace or of I mean in a thousand years this earth would be breathtaking to to see but it's also happening right around us all the time right now and that's I think that beauty is is something that is easy to it's easy to either evolve or to appreciate that it's it's tricky again to appreciate as you're evolving like you were saying with feeling pain but also saying that this is actually a treasure and that that's not a contradiction right because to an ordinary person that that's a complete country that's that's a that's a moment of insanity you could say right but that's defined in terms of third density egotistical self-interest what we're pushing towards is is planetary love and so here's the next question how are you in your day-to-day life seeing more planetary love more more pure love as opposed to people ignoring each other on the streets well one thing that arises is here in no limit society we are quite empty of self-interest and so it's it's really nice when you're just walking up and hugging another person out of pure love and and you can both feel that on each other you can feel it in each other's hearts there's just a pure love hugging itself because we are that pure love hugging itself it's not a human doing pure love to another human it's pure love which is the actually central nature underneath it all loving itself through the two individuations and and so that I think that's the level that's the threshold that we should be aiming at that we should have at our star and and there are other ways in terms of there are other scenarios around the world where it's happening like another way of viewing this is you know the way that we've transitioned ourselves to like understanding what indigenous tribes around the world are talking about regarding the unity with all that we are or another one is that when you see what used to be like a billion people that didn't have access to clean water that then there would be some sort of a shift in in the collective consciousness to where now it is an SDG so it is showing up in ways and it's not yet fully being actualized because there's one of the big things that I've noticed you know last year I also published a project called rich patrons in addition to my first book high level perception and in that project what I said was that the reason why we haven't unlocked yet this trillions of dollars of surplus that we actually have across all of the billionaires on the planet is because they don't have a trusted way to put the money into solving the actual problems and challenges and so a it's not just about funneling the money into the solutions because then they still come from a lower density of consciousness so what we need to do is we funnel the money into consciousness into our scientists our researchers our academics our institutions our governments our economists the people that are basically tuned into the fabric of the collective on those levels and then as they wake up more and more as they understand the nature that's underlying all phenomena then they are the ones that then also design the architectures and policies and models that then do things like actually funnel those trillions of dollars into solutions that are sourceful source based solutions and then it's like you take the indigenous seventh generation principle and you actually bring it forth because the indigenous are three thinking 300 years down the line they're not thinking about 10 years from now and so that's how you funnel those trillions of dollars of surplus into the actualization and you can and you see that as pure love pure love is when you shift more and more away from instant gratification away from self-interest more and more towards the long term planetary prosperity absolutely and i mean the next question is that we've covered a lot of the societal struggles and let's let's fast forward say 100 years or 50 years we'll both we'll both still be around do you think that there will be more paranormal experiences on earth that is the more we realize that there is a spirit world shall we say you know there's a time space if you think of the raw material time space is dual to space time and we have mortal worlds right and then we have the spirit world do you think that there will be more spirit world close encounters interactions i mean we have the disclosure disclosure is going to be happening what do you think about paranormal experiences that include et's but not just limited to et's and have you had any yourself if you want to review nice yeah i remember when we had rupert shell drake on the show we talked about these different yeah these different styles of of intelligence that are not common right now and there's an there's an uh an there's an underlying morphogenesis to everything um and a big morphogenetic field which is basically what it looks like when you have something that is um it's evolving and it's also uh playing with itself in the evolution and then it's uh it's all moving to an attractor of some sort which we could say is this uh earth awakening and through a big possibility space which has things like nukes or no nukes or bio warfare or no bio warfare um or perverse incentives in the social media attention economy or not or shifting to web 3.0 with decentralized autonomous organizations and nfts fractional ownership for everybody um and so it totally feels like all of these new ways of communicating between each other are basically being unlocked right now and yeah some of them have to do with some of these like okay when i'm super still and i'm super silent can i actually tune in to what could be uh in some sort of an entangled way into a uh et across the cosmos and um or even just here physically uh on earth you could say that can my consciousness and your consciousness by just getting nice and slow and silent can we sort of see the formless nature of our consciousness with no difference and with no locational uh difference as well and so you can actually begin sort of like tuning into even that and then getting more telepathic and whatnot which is sort of what's happening here in our field in the limit society and and so for those that are listening that's the uh training free agents for the ignition of global awakening and you can find the link in the bio below um and yeah bro um i would say it's happening in many different ways that style of of uh next level comes uh and it's and it's even visible in these architectures as well where you're like even talking about web 3 and like fractional ownership and um and things like uh decentralization like biomimicking what fungal networks are like in our social contracts like even that even talking about that is in itself already a big shift from decentralized monopolistic uh fabric that then influences our communication because it makes us feel like you know we're victims or that we're separate or that we are in different locations um and so the next level architectures are going to feed into our consciousness as the consciousness will feed into um the higher density consciousness will feed into the next generation architectures which will be much next level communication next level communication meaning we're forming a social memory complex yes yes and it's good it's good to play with i've also noticed this i've noticed that much of my interest in jargon has also subsided meaning i still have access to concepts i still have access to be able to talk about things like the social memory complex or smc but at the same time i've relaxed more and more of my conceptual mind and what's happened is a next level of um emptiness has been able to come through so more emptiness of self-interest is actually catalyzed by the letting go of the conceptual mind and then the that that emptiness can actually still access concepts as it needs in service to others as as needed exactly yes exactly rather than leading the way rather than trying to accumulate in a mass and become superior because that's a tendency that that the mind has ascend to the top and everything else is now at the bottom of a hierarchy um but so now that you're relaxing more how do you find your thoughts moving from from data i mean when you're just walking around the room right are you still are you still thinking of yourself as internally thinking or are you externally projecting your thoughts or is it still a feedback or how how is it for you day to day every day is basically a liberation of the center more and more of a liberation of the center so every day is becoming more and more centerless and it's catching the formation of self faster and faster and the dissolving of the self faster and faster um and it's yeah it's just more and more like dissolving into the fabric of divine love um yeah and then there's like words just escape and then just words fall away words fall away or rather speaking becomes a little more like singing or playing rather than just information exchange nice yes like you enjoy the the tone the pace the face is facial expressions that's what it becomes and then at a certain point you just start looking at each other and then telepathy begins yeah how about how about you with uh with waking up and also with um how you've shifted um given that because it sounds like you were just describing it a bit and it sounded really nice and interesting well my my background's a little bit unconventional maybe because I remember one of my first thoughts being the law of one and I mean I was very fortunate as a child both my parents were extremely loving I had an extremely loving family uh sister who's a year and a half younger who was my best friend growing up I had no want I had no my basic needs were satisfied um so I didn't have to worry about drama and it that allowed a sort of opening I would actually look at the sun I wanted to look at the sun even though I knew it hurt your eyes and I would look right at it and I would feel good eventually I would just close my eyes while I looked at it and I remember um that I would just feel this closeness because I would feel the heat inside of my organs and I thought well the sun has to be millions miles away so what's this connection and then I would look at the earth and I would think of myself as falling right through and then remember you know thinking of these celestial connections and then looking beyond and then looking at the stars and what what's all that out there and somehow you know I realized that I had no understanding of a star or the sun or even of the earth I realized I was completely ignorant of how anything worked the only thing I knew was that I existed and because of that I guess I deduced that existence has to just be one thing or object nice and from that I just started looking at my parents and it's not that I mean at the time it was it was naive and I guess this does happen in developmental psychology where you just identify everything as yourself and so I was just looking at myself and my parents and at the room and at trees and things and I would just identify myself as them and say well that's me and whatever they're doing I'm doing and then as I grew up I started to realize though that I did have an ego and that I did have this local identity that wanted to express itself and and sometimes in not so friendly ways and I reflected on any toxicity or any chronic negativity that I experienced towards myself or others and I started to realize the law of one again so basically I forgot about the law of one through my teens I ever you know from four years old up until about 13 it was all about the law of one and everything was part of me and basically it was it was a joy filled childhood and and I that to that extent it might be unconventional but then I sort of forgot for another 13 years that everything is one because I was dealing so intensely with other people and so I felt this dualism very very chronically for a while and you know I'd say in the last two years I remembered that the law of one is the one truth and I began to unite with people and well I mean I you know I still retain my that's the thing I still retain my personality in a sense more and more I'm trying to access a magical personality that doesn't cling to this local body but just spherically spreads this body wherever it contacts like I was like when I was a kid but not in a naive way anymore not just identifying myself blindly with other people rather discerning because for a long time it's easy to just judge it's easy to just condemn and to see something negative and say well that's just pure idiocy right or to or to condemn yourself but I realized that you can discern without condemning you can just open your heart and have mercy towards whatever you're seeing and compassion and then the spectrum goes from positivity to negativity to joy and compassion so whenever something negative is happening I queue up to either become compassionate or merciful whether to myself or to somebody else and if something bad isn't happening then we're just on the on the way to joy and so that's my I guess my I've tried to convert the positive negative duality into a non-dual spectrum where negativities are basically just challenges to the positive emotion basically challenges the positive emotion to extend itself into the negative event and thereby become magical yes or metaphysical yes yes and that that's that's that's I have to do that because I'm in a classroom with 30 kids who are 13 and who are forgetting the law of one although I will say that they do seem pre-incarnationally primed to fourth density love much more than than even I was as a kid and I had a very fortunate childhood yeah so that's a big shift that I'm noticing nice yeah I loved when you were sharing this focus on both the the positivity and then also just existence itself and then also the seeing how even the kids that you're teaching today in the school that they have a greater in a sense they both it's a there's an entanglement that's happening with them where they have a greater access to the unity that everything is but they also at the same time have a greater tendency to possibly get very distracted by the what's what's also evolved and so you can get more self-absorbed lowercase as self um yeah by the modern technologies as you can also seek truth faster and more efficiently and uh and liberate yourself from illusion faster so it's it's really interesting it's an entanglement that that is uh that's happening there beautiful beautiful bro yeah there is there there definitely is an entanglement between technological and metaphysical evolution I mean each kid we have to confiscate the phones at the beginning of the of the day because it would be impossible to teach if they had their phone in their pocket but the phone is also allowing for highly increased communication another weird thing that I've noticed is that people are a lot more open with their romances with their crushes back when I was you know 10 15 years ago it was a secret or it was a big deal now it's all out in the open and so that's there's a little subtle things that I'm noticing that there there's much more openness I ask them questions like does war over land make sense and war no longer makes sense to them before as a kid yeah yeah I mean I set up the class so that we're running a fourth density class I have to remember my head that I love that you're like I'm running a fourth density class I love that I love how like our teachers are starting to like say that that's so cool yeah I'm running a class based on non-separation based on unity that's so cool bro I love that and I noticed strange correlations they're talking about entanglement there's strange correlations if I show up in the morning in a bad mood students are much more chaotic and they they behave in I mean or and towards me I'm not so when I approach a student and let's say I'm in a bad mood they can already sense it they can already see it on me and they're immediately going to shell up whereas if I simply soften my heart and I'm like well you know a lot of these kids are coming from who knows I mean I do know their housing situation a lot of them are struggling in many ways when it comes to base I mean the school has gives them breakfast and lunch a lot of them you know struggle for basic needs at home they struggle in many ways and yet and yet they have this openness this purity to them they open up to their to their teacher very easily they're excited to come to school even though you know it's a fourth density classroom but we're also working on paper and we're working and I I'm trying to elevate them and see their your voice your your actual voice is what we're working on your your mind and your spirit and you know ultimately if you're not feeling happy in this classroom if you're not enjoying yourself in some way then I'm actually harming you and I'd I'd prefer not to do that and so when when they get out of hand and when I always say things like well you're actually forcing me to lower my consciousness right now you're forcing me to treat you like you're younger and like you don't understand how to be respectful etc etc but if we can actually elevate our own consciousness and I speak this way because they get it you know if we elevate our own consciousness to a a loving state then maybe we can actually have an enjoyable classroom and we don't have to suffer throughout the day nice you talk about making consciousness in class I have to I have to because you have 30 kids who want to talk to each other about things that have nothing to do with social studies so it there's two ways of going about it you either yell at them and tell everybody to shut up okay or you get their attention in some way but getting their attention either implies you tell them a story or something it usually doesn't have to do with school right so sometimes I'll do that sometimes it's story time and they get to hear about some kind of paranormal experience I've had or something or other but it's all meant to get them to enjoy the day because I suffered through the day I did not like school at all I thought it was a prison and I didn't want to be there and I thought I would learn better if I just walked around outside but you know people thought it was something that had to be done so if you would ask me are you going to be a teacher when I was a kid I would have I would have shaken my head and probably scoffed but I then then I realized that you know even though the school structures that we have today like the length of the day the division of subjects how many kids are in a single class things like that even how the subjects are taught all of these things have to be updated in terms of fourth density but I can still run a fourth density classroom on the existing structures and that's what yeah that's the shift that's the shift that's that's the shift you know it sometimes it feels like an act like a tooth abscess because you know the old structures can really weigh you down yeah I mean the school day they're in class from 8 30 to 4 30 and the there's a lot of serious time they have one hour approximately of lunch and recess combined out of like six or seven of serious time so in my class it's fun time okay it's social studies we're studying how to socialize I always make I make little jokes like that nice yeah fourth density socialize it's so cute exactly yeah no so it that's that's a personal challenge that that I'm experiencing it's it's very fun and that's how I get to instantiate fourth density in the day to day a member but I'm sure straight implementation I love that though because that's what it's all about because it's um it's so much about anchoring the realizations into the fabric of existence and so it's weaving it's the tantric realization of weaving what you've discovered about the underlying oneness into the world and you do that yeah through the ways that we've been talking about on the show it's it's so good and it's so good hearing that this I've never heard that before a fourth density classroom and that's starting to like really it's ringing right here it's so sweet and it feels so good feeling you and feeling the kids like coming from a place of love coming from a place of oneness in the classroom itself so good yeah it's a joy man it's a joy and I think it's a testament to the shift that's happening because a lot of them like I said they're so open that they share traumatic experience with me experiences with me that would totally have broken me if I had if I'd experienced that but instead you know they just double down and say well that just means that family has to be flexible or your you know a friend can be just as can express just as much love to you as a parent if necessary and to me they're more and more seeing that the earth family is what we're shifting towards and that we can't just have these little nuclear islands cool um so cool they mean they learn about they learn about the distinction between the communal family and the nuclear family and they all think about how we have to unite them because they know that we can't have a communal family in the standard indigenous sense the society is too big we have too much complexity but at the same time we can't have all this closure because because then you only care about your family and I'll ask them a question like should you care about someone you have no idea about or rather should you care about a stranger a pure stranger and they all ask well what did the stranger do but then the question is well who cares right some one kid always raises that question they could have done something terrible but there's still a person and they still deserve some kind of mercy and then the rest of the class starts to realize oh yeah well even if they did something terrible the likelihood is that they didn't the likelihood is that they're just someone who's out there you know in some field right probably struggling for basic needs and they think it makes no sense to not think of the planet as some kind of mega family which is something that would be non-intuitive for a lot of people they it's it's but it that's the thing it's an it's intuitive to them they don't have an issue understanding these things they don't have an issue understanding that war is incoherent the these things don't confuse them they just have a clear answer and that's why I'm so excited about the coming years because even when even in 10 this tells me that even in 10 years I mean art the the density of of our of our consciousness is going to be much higher it's so exciting with the little ones I love it war is incoherent and they're seven and they're seventh graders they're you know they're they're they're young they're 12 13 year old kids they're but they're and they're they're experiencing adolescence and that is a shift in itself and yet and and yet they understand that bullying of all forms is undesirable from everybody's perspective that these things that that were kind of implicit 15 20 years ago even are now just completely intuitive and explicit so that's so good or densities here yeah why would I why would I create the traumas like why would I call why would I catalyze trauma that's such a good question for kids to ask themselves so good exactly and their answer is it's so unnecessary I mean if you're going to do something negative right it has to be at least necessary that this is another conversation that always comes up with them because learning about early American history they're learning about a lot of trauma right they're learning about genocide and slavery and how people it survived slavery how does somebody not commit suicide is a question that they come up with when it comes to slavery and of course then we shift the attention to well they had families on the many talk about American slavery they had flat families and how is it that family love can be so strong that you would prefer to stay on the plantation with your family then basically commit suicide or try to escape which is equivalent to suicide and you know so family love it doesn't fourth density doesn't mean that you lose your family you know you mean but it does mean that you have to open your heart to people you have no clue about and I think that's a very beautiful thing and I mean here's here's a question did did you enjoy school I mean are you what was your school experience like yeah and can I also ask for the audience would you mind sharing with us a general like location of where your school is oh yeah New York City okay cool and then is it is it a it's a public school it's a public charter it has some funding yeah yeah okay nice um and you said it's eighth grade right 13 years it's middle school I seventh grade right now but yeah middle school sixth through eighth nice yeah sweet wow dude it's so exciting um I was mentioning to you that one of my one of my best friends um growing up Greg Harner he also um is social studies teaching and I think that he would love to hear this and because he and so many other teachers that are like you basically that are in a sense it's like 30 like 30 year old teachers that are like um uh like that are seeing the earth slowly shifting into a more awakened state and now it's like well also my kids see that war is in uh incoherent they my kids see earth as a mega family and it's great because you as you wake up you catalyze that in the classroom because you can't show up with your state of being being off because if you show up that way it gets reflected to you by the kids and so it's great so you show up um more and more consistently from that unity and then you get to catalyze great questions for them to like basically turn inward and be like uh no I do care about some stranger that I don't know um and that's so good um for me school was fantastic um it um it it was a great um example of me being able to like actualize my intelligence um because you know my my family also um put in a lot into me being like very agile like very polymathic um very intelligent my mind my mind is very sharp I distilled the essences of a lot of different fields um up until I was like 18 years old and then that totally played a huge role into um the last 10 years of my life and so um now now I would say that the thing that did happen when I was in school that I would like to shift a bit was um there was not so much of a focus on consciousness there was not so much of a focus on what metaphysics the nature of reality there wasn't a big focus on on unity and oneness and um the planetary architectures to meet basic needs and this type of stuff and so I I actually have interviewed several people on the show from different schools that are um that are either like founders of those schools or that they run those schools and that um typically what the answers are is things like it's built into our curriculum now like consciousness oneness unity the SDGs project based learning um this is all built into our curriculum now and it's and that's that lights me up every time I hear that type of stuff so that's uh I'm really grateful to all my teachers I love my teachers with all my heart and I whenever I go back to my hometown I usually stop at my elementary school my middle school and my high school and I go and I check in and I give them so much love um because you know having a kid show up that like took your class 20 years ago or 15 years ago or 10 years ago and to have them come back and just be super grateful um is like for them is like oh my gosh and like wow you also host this show where you talk to people about you know maximizing your potential and stuff and so they get really excited they're like I taught someone that is now doing this on behalf of the world and let's um it's really good it's really good to to have to have a um a heart to heart relationship so close and so loving with with your teachers and so hopefully that's another thing for yeah for you and your students now is like dude they're they in like five years 10 years 15 years are also going to be doing great things around the world and they're going to be like oh my gosh Bernard this is what I'm doing thank you for teaching me yeah yeah and that's that's the long-term catalyst that's catalysis right that that you are embodying and I love that I mean I would say that the transition to fourth density education is still very very in its very very beginning stages we're doing well in encoding fourth density ideas in third density curricula but the curricula themselves remain third density in the sense that we're still learning about science math social studies and ELA all in division and those divisions technically probably don't hold in fourth density in the way we think but I have my challenge is to transitionally update the the education my own curriculum which I construct and the education system itself I mean in time I will I will come out with a little blueprint for what a fourth density school could look like in its entirety I would love to stay to that yeah yeah I would I would love to create with you on that it's so exciting and also my other yeah my other friends that either are teachers or that have founded these different charters and schools I would love for for a deeper collaboration there also on a rug is doing a lot of work in that space which is super cool Andy Bittner is too so it's I'm so excited about that I'm so excited that you're passionate about this because like oh this is so this is so instrumental because we're not just going to overnight shift everybody out of 3d schools so the so the so one of the best ways is to basically bring 4d into the seeds in and then water them in the 3d until they shift more and more into 4d so good and meanwhile also be building completely different schools that kids can go to like for example awakened parents like you me were not yet I assume you're not right no but and like and like many of the people in like no limit society that are young like under 30 like don't have kids and so like eventually when they do have kids dude they're not going to put their kids through any 3d shit so that means that they're going to be looking for a 4d school curricula style and so this is um it's going to be a big also um success because there's going to be a lot of demand for it yeah and it's going to look very different right I mean the the content that they'll be learning the way they'll be learning it very very different um I I'm personally extremely excited about that's the thing I'm most excited about right now is the development of 4d schools I love that bro gosh that's so exciting for me cool that's great I love I love actually adding that as like a tag to our relationship is uh 4d schools it's so good bro yeah I mean it I should have I should have a blueprint in the next year for what one would look like and how the curriculum will change how the day to day will change the whole thing has to be formulated but I have it fully formed it just have to write it out it's a little bit tricky to get some free time these days but I'll I'll put it down soon and we can talk about it I love it yeah we could do another show on 4d schools also that's so good bro um also I would I would love to I would love to say um to the audience as well because we'll have the law of one uh dot info we'll have that link in the bio for you guys to check out but generally what we're talking about when we're talking about densities is we're talking about densities of consciousness and that means um the amount of love light awareness so awareness love and light that is present in the mind-body-spirit complex so um meaning in each person in a simple way in each person um in this mirror is the chakras so the seven chakras is mirrored um and same thing with the colors of the rainbow or the cd e fg ab the musical octave um that generally uh the shift is happening from the third density which you could say as like a very um matrix style uh fabric um of centralization and of separation that type of thing um to where your fourth density is a heart chocker so you're shifting up into this unity awareness love light and then that is what we're talking about in terms of implementing into the school is that style of shift in this big timeline of 13.8 billion years of evolution as is said that each one of these little earth simulators goes on its little evolution in the densities of consciousness and so this is where we're at right now on this uh planet earth simulator and that we have this opportunity to go directly into the um the education of what children are inputting every single day into their consciousness and then to create catalysts through what they're inputting so that they get more flavors of unity and oneness and awakening um non-separation full actualization at younger ages so yeah I just wanted to briefly also clarify for people yeah I mean the densities are difficult to understand in our current context because they're more general than dimensions but we're talking about right densities of consciousness and students understand that consciousness is the name of the game and you know they they no longer are worried about third density imperatives as much they realize that those are transitional um so you know I think I speak rather freely with students uh I I don't sugarcoat why they're there I don't actually pretend that the school that I'm in even though it allows me all this freedom that any third density school is going to allow you to fully enjoy your day it is still very difficult to move through a school day um in the existing structures and being a little vague right now but that's because you know this is still introductory but I mean in terms of how long the classes are and things like that um it's it's actually easy to resist a fourth density school because it's going to appear at first that kids aren't going to be learning anything right because we understand school is this transmission of information like you have a stimulants response machine bunch of students are stimulus response machines and then you just feed them input as the teacher that that model is what is going to be replaced as this co-creative model that that we could talk about in the future but um yeah man that's it's very very nice very nice so I think uh I think one more question then uh before we close I love you I mean do you do you actively think of your own body as absorbing for fourth density light more and more every day I mean is this a thought pattern like that's a cool question okay yeah I mean are you receptive we're opening our aperture yeah opening our aperture for sure yeah um less and less uh less and less density of uh lowercase s self right so um yeah and so then as um as the density of conditioning and the density of separation and contraction decrease um the opening of the aperture to light and love increases and freedom increases and it's one infinite creator intelligence gets to be the daily um moment to moment guidance and and inspiration and it feels so good and it feels way more decentralized and way less contracted way more centerless way more like you said also it's like a dance and a play in communication and um yeah absolutely man I mean you're very you're very cells okay you're the the new cells that are being generated in your body when you're experiencing loving thoughts or loving feelings those are fourth density cells in a sense I mean we can talk about that in a future conversation yeah uh I mean yeah 4d cells that's cool 4d cells man whoa I love this yeah that's such a good point and on a teaser that's such a good point because um even like in biology it can really relate well with this because um we do know we do know very clearly that um from like this Cambrian explosion era until now from even a biogenesis until Cambrian explosion until now it's a very clear like lineage of cellular evolution and then even up until now these like 30 trillion celled human vehicles that it's so cool because they have not stopped at they're continuing to evolve and so that's why you have the fucking cerebral cortex and that you have this prefrontal cortex and that you have all of this like next level next generation also in technology that's coming out with what we're feeling into with AR VR neuro tech biotech all these different fields um and you know doing that with a lot of ethics and doing that with a lot of morality and a lot of um future presence around oneness and unity so there's no malevolence that can like squeak in there um but then that that then feeds back into yeah the cellular evolution and I love that yeah 4d cells like literally the cells themselves being infused more and more with love light and I actually now that you say that I feel that more and more as my aperture is yeah because it feels like you're dancing the one infinite creator um instead of um it the the contracted energy feels like your cells are more like third density that's such a interesting way to to put it like your state your state state of being is from a fourth density cellular intelligence it's so cool yeah the cell you think of the cells as having more connections with other cells behaving more like like actual networks than cells single cells right you think of third density cell I mean third density is based on cells but then fourth density right you start getting to systemic action which is what's which is so we maybe this is a can of worms we'll talk about it in a future episode but you can give us a little more you can give us a little more because keep going okay raw raw talks about the creation of what they called green core particles so green has to do with the fourth chakra which is 4d and so they use this metaphorical language but what they were saying was that the earth's environment is becoming more conducive to the production and acceptance right of shall we say 4d photons from the sun and those 4d photons can be accepted by human cells or other third you could argue that certain animals exhibit third density consciousness like I mean if you know if you have a dog or a cat or any I mean really any animal but anyway you these these cells can accept 40 photons and those 40 photons can activate more internal connections with other cells and that basically creates systemic action as opposed to individual cell action individual cell action is what allows for cancer and other degenerations to occur because those cells basically lose track of their connections with other cells when a cell thinks of itself as more of a system than an individual just like a human right if a human thinks of itself as more of a system than an individual little island and it's going you see what I'm saying so the 40 cell thing and by that very nature the cell gains because 4d you could I mean the dimensions of space okay you got the dimensions of space but also there's dimensions of time right you have past present and future but in but in 4d you get an entire past life or pre-programming in terms of which all your your body is going to evolve I mean the the parameters of your body are set before the lifetime I mean they're very wide obviously but you have the whole button and think of it as like carving your own possibility space right the cells have their own carving of their own possibility space but what we're able to do now these 40 photons the more we think these loving thoughts we're able to activate locked regions of our dna right what crisper and things like that can do we can do that endogenously through 4d thoughts and feelings and those are the that's that's what I can say for now that your cells are basically accepting more levels of processing so good bro I love it maybe we can we can we can talk whenever whenever you want man I actually have to go but um perfect it's uh it's amazing exchanging energy with you yeah you too I I love 40 schools 40 cells um and just more about earth's awakening or earth shift um and the curricula um as well yes schools so yeah Bernard this is beautiful my brother this is uh the beginning of a beautiful friendship and I'm so so excited thank you so so am I thank you thank you thank you yeah super cool conversation and um oh yeah also for everybody um I love you guys thank you for tuning in everyone thank you thank you we would love to hear your thoughts in the comments below on the episode drop us a comment also um like the video that helps the algorithm uh subscribe to the channel if you haven't yet also share this conversation with Bernard to your friends um that are interested in earth's awakening this will generate some great catalysts for them and also check out the link in the bio below we have Bernard's youtube channel so go and subscribe to that like his videos check out his content as well share it with other people if you find it to be resonant he does a great job over there and uh that's yeah that's all also yeah love one link is in the bio to check out and also is um the no limit society what we're building here so um infinite love to you guys also what is I in high level perception the 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