 Normally in FPV, we fly freestyle drones in an X configuration. I was fumbling around in Betaflight and flipping switches and dropping check-down boxes. I stumbled across a plus copter configuration. So I looked it up, figured out what it was, and I made this cross copter. I figured, why aren't we flying this every day instead of an X scan configuration? So we're gonna figure that out today. It settles the argument whether props in or props out is better, because this one's always gonna throw dirt at the camera. Initially my first thing is, I mean, so you have really durable arms, but every crash is just gonna be boom. Boom. Yeah, but this is the best way to crash with the hitting right here, because it protects your motor and it allows all of the impact to travel down the arm in this direction, which is the strongest way. I guess so, I just think like when I'm flying forward I have like angle and it could just keep going like this. It could, yeah, and you could probably flip over. I guess maybe the arm won't break, but definitely a lot of motors. I mean, you're going to have a hard time smashing the camera lens, at least. I guess that's a plus, that's a plus. I also noticed like there's one motor on each side for each axis versus like two would be quarter. It is a little bit strange to watch it change. Yeah, so typically on an X-copter, whenever you want to roll two of the motors spin up to make it roll left. And on this one, only one of them is going to end up spinning up. And then when you go to yaw, these two motors spin up and these two motors spin down to make it yaw, the same thing happens here. I don't know which ones spin up and which ones spin down, but it's the same basic concept for yaw. But for pitch, you're only going to have one motor. Now we picked the perfect place to test this, where there's a ton of concrete and metal to smash into. Where are we, James? This is Bandoland at GTI, the venue for Rampage 2024. Get your tickets, come out here, enjoy this wonderful structure. There you go, you're right. And watch his arm on this. The typical R-button star stop. All right, let's, let's, let's go. This is an old design. It looks so weird. Oh, it looks so weird. It looks so funny. Oh, I like, why does that look more than anything? You're going to get a sideways shot. It looks so weird. I don't like. It looks so weird. I'm landing it. All right. Let's do some freestyle. Let me see these goggles. You're going to see this, James. This is so funny. Look at this. This is awesome. I like it. I know, I know the front motor works. You can see just fine. It's, you think it would block your view, but you can totally see in front of you. I, although I'm so used to seeing a motor on the side that it feels like it's caught. Oh, it tricked out, it just, it just throttled up. So it has a little bit of weird tendency. Give it a, a, a feeler, you know? I'm just like, I'm just going right for it. Or move it away from us. Nice. Oh geez. Pitch is so weird. So now you can put the like the plus in the middle of your screen in Betaflight OSD. We just already have that now. I'm going to go dive the tower. The tower. It's so funny seeing the prop spin. Look, off throttle. Oh geez. All right. Pitch, go up high and pitch forward. I want to see if the prop stops. Okay. You ready? Yeah. Go. No, it kept spinning. I mean, that's air mode, right? Yeah. It slowed down a little bit. It looks like it wants to stay straight. Or is that just the carbine in the middle? But what do you mean? It doesn't look like it wants to, to yaw when you're, like it doesn't, it doesn't move side to side at all. The motor, the quad. Oh, it's like a perfect flip. Oh yeah. I always do a perfect flip. That's true. Like it just feels like because of the weight. Yeah. Like it may be more accurate than what you're saying. Oh, I doubt, I didn't see the excavator as the motor was blocking it. Isn't that funny? So what you're saying is that it might be more accurate than an X copter because you're having to rely on two motors spinning exactly the same versus just having one motor that's always going to do. It just feels really locked in. Oh, it gave throttle. It just, I caught it and it just throttled up. Like, I mean, like Quinn and when you saw it, the pitch axis feels very locked in. And I pitch, when you're just doing pitch and just doing roll, they feel very locked in. But just normal flying, like coordinated turns do you think might get screwed up a little bit? Coordinated turns do feel a little bit different. Okay. It feel, they feel bad. I wanna try it. I wanna see what this thing's doing. Yeah. So I mean, let's go get the drone and then one of you guys fly it. Launch. So far I haven't got any problems. No weird tendencies like you had. Yeah. Cause I had like the weird eye term thing. You're trying to make it, that's a wire. I'm trying to make it do stuff. I was trying to just blow. Woo, yeah, me too. I'm just doing my regular thing. It's flying fine for me. It doesn't like Bubby. Whoa. Oh my God. That was my fault. That wasn't the drone's fault. I wonder. That's just bad piloting. It's like a battery or something. Flying style? Maybe. I mean, I would think that my flying style would cause less issues than all this like crazy. Yeah. I'm doing crazy stuff. Maybe it likes it. I'm doing a lot of yawing. Usually yaw is the weird stuff. It likes it more aggressive. So is this the best drone for Spain? You never know. Probably. Probably. I had assumed so. Oh, it's flying good for me. I know. I got a crappy terrain. To be fair, I didn't tell anybody, but I did fly this just to make sure it worked. And I had some weird yaw freakouts too. Yeah, like I have. I flew it, yeah. Well, you tried to pull yaw spin. I'm not now. Have you done a yaw spin yet? Oh, I'd go. Oh, that was sick. That was fine. That was good. That was great. Oh my gosh. That was so close. I'm scared. Oh. Pull. Oh, what? No. I did that on purpose. That's the second time he just somehow made it up. That's the second time. Why can't I do this? Why can't I do this on my regular drone? Across the whole thing. That was crazy. I know. That was sick. I don't know. My flight experience, whoa. Oh, I'm a land. That was awesome. That was good flying, guys. That was great. Nicely done. What the heck? Nicely done. Very nicely done. What did you think about it? Like, was there anything? It felt just like my regular drone. I don't know. That's weird. You didn't notice anything on picture or what? I was just going too fast. He was in the zone. That was honestly one of your best packs that I've seen in like, Vandaland. Preston, turn it off. Okay. I saw it on the phone, but now seeing it in full screen is very jarring. Oh, the motor? Very jarring. Is it blocking your view? Is it gonna make it impossible to fly? No, not at all. Okay, take off. There you go. It looks so funny. I just can't get over it. I'll get over it eventually, but right now I can't get over it. It's very touchy. Yeah. Are you sure the rates aren't... It's standard stock Betaflight rates. I genuinely... It does not feel like stock. It doesn't feel like it, but I think it has to do with one motor per axis thing. Oh, okay. That's what I think. Yeah. Struggling? A little bit. Ooh. Oh, that's pretty. All right, try to trippy spin the tower. Let's see if this T-copter can trippy spin. I don't even know. T stands for trippy. Trippy cropped. There you go. Oh, it's doing it though. It's doing it. It's doing it. You're doing it. It looks so weird. You're looking up. It looks so weird. Now you're locked in. Nice. Yeah, like I said, it was very touchy, so I've just got to do really light movement. T stands for trippy because it's trippy. Trippy. It's also the radio, maybe, because it's really small gimbals. Oh, that could be it. It's really small gimbals. It's just a combination of everything. Yeah. Yeah. Ooh. Wobbly, too. Try some combos. You're some of your, you know. Yeah, I wanted to try to Maddie flip it, but I'm just like fighting it to keep it straight. Yeah. There you go. There you go. Maddie flips it. Trippy spins. Did it feel weird at all? Oh, for sure. Yeah. Like uncontrolled. Like I'm just fighting it. Is air mode on? Yeah. That's what I feel like. I feel like I was fighting it the whole time. Oh, you've got air mode off. Oh, okay. Let's see. Now air mode on. Right now. Okay, that's what the problem is. What does that mean? Ignore that. Nope. Does it feel better? Yeah, it just feels bad. It just feels bad. I don't know how you're flying it's so good, Sean. I don't know how either. He was ripping balls. I know what I'm gonna say. It just feels like it either wants to be flat. Yeah. Or, and going straight. Let me flip another leg. It just wants to be. Just to make sure. Oops. What'd you do? What'd you do? I just freaked James out. That's all I'm like touching the transmitter. Try now. Is the flying any different? No. No, no. The roll is the worst. Roll is the worst. Bitch is also bad. What about y'all? I haven't seen you do y'all. No, y'all's bad too. You're all bad. Did y'all spin or something? What about throttle? How's throttle? I mean, throttle is also bad because I'm trying to manage the throttle to deal with all the bobbing. Yeah. There you go. Oh, is that you? Is that you? Whoa. It's this, oh my gosh. Watching it just fall in the sky turned off was hilarious. Was that you that did that weird thing? Yeah. Well, no, I mean, it was just reacting. Yeah, it wasn't the movement I told it. I guess. So what do you think, James? Are you going to switch to T-copter as your main drone? Absolutely not. How about you, Bobby? While you were flying, you were like, the roll is bad. The pitch is even worse. Don't get me started about the y'all. And the throttle. Oh my gosh. That's the litter. That's the y'all. Oh, we're done. It arms very nicely. It arms very nicely. I think it flew pretty good for me. I mean, it didn't even arm myself. Freaked out on you. True, true, true, true. It is weird though. So my consensus is that roll and pitch, it just felt more locked on it. And then everything else was like, you were hauling. It was killer, man. I think I'm going to switch to T-copter as my main crofter. What do you guys think? Do you think I should switch to T-copter? Because I think it looks sick. Yeah, and then James was just like, oh, it's just bad. Why are we doing something? I'm scared of that thing. I don't ever want to fly it again. Here you go. Take it. Oh, I can have my quadcopter back? We didn't destroy it this time. That's right. Maybe you should put it on the shelf. Like, is there a practical use to this? Honestly, I have no idea. I have no idea. Like, why are you at all? I don't know why. There can't be. I don't know why. I can't think of anything. The why is because I saw it in Betaflight and I clicked the button. That's why. So if you can think of any actual reasons to fly a plus copter, let us know in the comments because T-copter is just useless. What are the plus sides? What are the plus sides of the plus copter? Exactly. Yeah, so if you guys end up making one for your own, let us know in the comments below and also post it on Instagram and tag us at Rotorite because we just want to see, you know, what else a community does with these weird drones and I don't know. It's just a weird drone. I don't know. It's a drone. It looks like a plus, but fly it or don't fly it. But that's right. James, you want to say something? I mean, all I have to say is that I don't want to fly it. Fair enough. On guard. Fuck!