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Have you guys seen any of this? No All right, is it a new one? Is it a real thing? So in science daily? This is the title by the way great site if you want to just read studies on anything You could possibly think of this is the title of this of the the article mathematical model predicts the best way to build muscle So this is the university of cambridge And researchers have developed a mathematical model that can predict the optimum exercise regimen when people show up 90% of the time They build 50 more percent muscle then well then you read this then you read the study and you read the article And it's like there's not anything really that we're learning that's new at all It's just very complicated, but here's the end of the article is the last paragraph eventually The researchers hope to produce a user friendly software based application That could give individualized exercise regimes for specific goals Yeah, you know stuff like this is uh like I know it's exciting to read about it And that's why i'm bringing this up, but there's so there's so many individual moving parts And also we've already figured it out. We've already figured out generally what works and what doesn't work You guys are a little late. We've been doing this for a long time now. Yeah, welcome to the party Yeah, you know compound lifts work a muscle two three times a week get stronger You know use resistance rest periods. We know this already right phaser workouts. Yeah, so I can't wait for that study to come out like, you know cambridge university spends 500 million dollars and figures out that uh You know you need to do you know anywhere between five to 20 reps to maximize muscle It needs to be intense. Oh, thank you. All right. Thank you for that study Doug, do you uh, do you know what space movie came out in 1992? I don't know, but we can google that Tell me what space movie came out in 1992 How does that okay, so how did someone hack a google? We're not gonna portray anything of that search I can't even we can't even allude to the title. You can't even come on. Yes. You can't it's on google I mean it's Andrew just giggle And how does that even work like that? Like why why wouldn't you search that? Is that a movie? Is that a real movie? It has to be a real movie. It's it's on imbd. It's on imbd There's all kinds of trailers. I've ever seen. Hey, I don't remember this movie a child right now Yeah, I don't think it was marketed to us. I think it was like a c or d level movie. Maybe Maybe but yeah, you could try this at home It's definitely a d level movie Because it's not what you would expect You want to hear something hilarious? I do I want to hear hilarious. I was okay. So My daughter's now getting to the age now where you know, she's gonna she's getting close to becoming a teenager So hormones are starting to come through. Yeah, you're starting to see the mood swings and stuff And it's kind of like as a dad. I'm just like, oh my god. What the anyway? We're all hanging out last night and we're talking And luckily we have a good relationship where everybody talks about this kind of stuff And I'm like, what's it like with your mom because you know, they they they're with their mom half the time And they're with me half the time and I know I totally fishing right now. Oh, yeah, and I know What's it like? I know just from experience and this is the stereotype I think there's some truth to this that like teenage girls when they when they're you know having these changes They tend to go Battle with mom tends to be mom and daughters right that during this period of time, right? And so I'm like, what's it like at at home and she's like, oh, it's you know, it's fine and my son's like, no, it's not. I'm like, what? And he goes real he goes He goes it's like he goes at least three times a week They'll like getting this huge blowout fight and I'll just be like whatever because he gets used to it And he goes and then they'll be on the couch hugging each other crying. I'm sorry I was dying. I'm like, thank god. I'm not there to see that Because it doesn't happen. It doesn't happen with me, you know I understand like moms and daughters have a different kind of connection But I could just picture them like hammering, you know going at you know war and then at the end hugging each other age years, man Is it is it inevitable? You know, this is a dad question I have for you guys since you're so far ahead of me Is it inevitable that your child will say they hate you one day? Oh, man. Like is that I don't say that I know I just think about like I you see that right a kid gets so angry, right? They get so angry at their mom what and it could be something stupid, right? Or dad like telling them they can't do something and I hate you Like I don't know if I how I should receive that You just you have to act like is it inevitable? Does it happen? Have you got that? I hate you yet, Doug. No, I haven't. Oh, fortunately Yeah My son did the he did something that probably even worse He told because remember, like I said, they're half with their mom and then half with us He told his mom he'd rather be at my house one time when they were fighting Which that is really yeah And I had a real good conversation with them about that. I said you'd never say I love dad more than you You're wondering. No, he didn't say that He didn't go that far. Yeah, you're going to disuelance It's just it's high five that a boy, you know, they're at the age where they get embarrassed, you know by You know By stuff like we're listening to you know music and my daughter's like this is you know change it You know she gets all rude about it. I'm like listen ask nicely or I'm not gonna anyway So we ended up putting on some music and we're listening to it And it's a song that I have like there's a little bit of a story to it, right? So I start talking so uh this song came out when I was at my daughter's like And she like rolls her eyes in the back seat. Can I just listen to the song and I'm like wow She's on the back history. I'm like, come on man. You got all this information But you know what it is, you know, you're still that guy too Like if you introduce a movie to us and watch it like okay, so here's Just part right here. This is the part where he's what the director was thinking Right in this moment, bro. I'm watching it right now You wait because as you know because you have to pick and choose your battles, right? Because I'm like am I going to like get her out of the car. Can we take yourself to school? We got to talk about the new matrix dude since you brought this up like dude We all got to see the trailer And Christmas, right? This is the first day of the rest of your life But if you want it You got to fight for it Okay, what's your initial impression? I mean, does it look like something that's going to be a winner or you know, are you a little bit reserved Matrix for me is the you know the original one especially It's got to be one of my favorite movies of all time And the based on the trailer it looks like because in the last matrix the very very last one I think it was that one where they said basically that neo was like He was like the You know like the end of the formula like there's like missing pieces that because the formula is not a round number It's inevitable. You're gonna have neos. He was the anomaly. He was the whatchamacallit They said something like we've had an infinite number of you We have to constantly deal with you So I feel like it's like they're trying to figure out how to control that and so he's got it seems like He's got some amnesia in the In the trailer that was the whole part of the trailer I got was he's just sort of and it'll be interesting to see how they like introduce them into that world again Because it's just like it looks like they're trying to portray like our world now Right like with all the phones and you know the way that we're living and everything and And then kind of repeating some of the process with the blue pill red pill stuff How many people today presented with with the matrix would gladly be like put me and plug me in I believe we're going that way I hope they have I hope they draw some parallels to that Yeah, it kind of alluded in the in the preview of like people all staring at their phones and computers Yeah, so I hope they draw some some parallels to that to modern time and what we're dealing with right now There'll be a trip if you'll see pops up on somebody's ipad But I mean historically uh has a part four ever done good. No Ever uh rocky four Always the rocky Hey, you're right rocky four was awesome. I said rocky was amazing Of course, I can see stop putting words in my mouth Okay, rocky one. I get that one of the greatest love stories Rocky two great movie rocky three sucked. Okay. I know all the people fans No, that was it. It was a crappy movie, but it was cool to watch fours the russian right fours when you fought the russian And it was cheesy and all that stuff, but it did it did well on the box off Oh, and I think it was my favorite. I think it's the best one It's my favorite. I've watched that one more than any other one for sure It was definitely it's got the best That's gotta be the only one though, right? Can you think of it a part four of any star wars? Yeah, well Out with part four Yeah You know what I watched the other night that I hadn't seen a long time So this is a kind of a weird movie that I loved as a kid uh Saturday Night Fever So when I was a teenager, I found this movie and I loved it Yeah, right away because I thought he was so cool And I was Italian dude and he gets all the chicks or whatever. Yeah, anyway, I hadn't watched this I had a little bottom pants. I haven't watched this since I was in high school I put it on again last night and I'm watching it and I didn't realize how big a douche bags All the characters were in that movie. Oh, yeah, they are terrible people. I don't really like cat collars or what dude? They're terrible the way that they're yeah, all of that total douche bags and shitty fucks and it's just I was watching I'm like, holy cow. This is terrible. This would not fly today whatsoever at all still entertaining though Do you think we're gonna see like cancelling of old movies and stuff like that? I mean, there's a lot of stuff back Back in the 80s and before that was pretty rough to cancel at that point Yeah, I don't know you ever watch stay out of certain eras. Oh watch a blazing saddle. Yeah No, I told you guys about this like my parents like played that movie for my kids thinking it's a funny movie That's right. I'm sitting in and I'm like, this is not appropriate. This is really bad. Like it's just like It's like shock value Humor and so like back then I think it was really funny just because it was like wow That's really shocking in but now it's just it's just gross and offensive Yeah, it's definitely you know what else is okay if you ever want to trip yourself out watch old cartoons So like watch old tom and jerry. Yeah, they're smoking cigarettes coyote You know tom, you know or jerry dresses up like a girl Pound alcohol. Yeah, and then goes and then jerry's like totally like molesting her or whatever going after and you're watching this This is peppy lippied. Yeah, like Going around Oh, yeah, pepula pews actually he was for sure the most aggressive I I got some like crazy interesting news And I'm gonna need dug to fact check me because I only I only read it in one place and it was like late last night So I didn't have a time to like go down the rabbit hole But did you guys hear what amazon is doing as far with school loans? No. Oh, you guys didn't hear this So amazon has vowed to pay for all hourly employees school loans That's over like 150 000 employees that work for them as hourly Now how does this work? Do they they pay it over time if you stay there and it's part of your So these are the details that I'll need dug to help me out with because I don't know exactly what the Rules are as far as like how do you get it re-invert here? It is right here amazon to cover 100 of college tuition for us hourly employees So if you work there, then that's part of the the benefits. How cool is that offer? That's crazy You know what though? This is what I would say here's what I would say as an employee I'd be like just give me money. Well, yeah, just take whatever you're gonna pay me for my It sounds like it's just it's yeah, it's an incentive like I think some people get You know bought into certain companies because they do things like that like certain things resonate with them Well, do you think that they worked some sort of a deal out maybe even with like the banks and stuff like hey Like we'll be able to pay you outright on these loans or would you I don't know if they take them over That's different than saying we'll pay it, you know, it would be different if they bought the loan Versus if they just you show them the loan. Oh, so your thought your theory give it to you in your check While you're while you're going we're working there. They will Allocate a certain amount of money to over towards your loan. I think I think they will pay in full is what they're Yes, uh, $5,200 cap per employee per year. Okay, so it won't cover most It's not gonna pay for harvard. So you only you only have to wait work there for 40 years And And they're also limiting it to fields like it healthcare transportation. So it's not going to be, you know, gender studies or something like that Yeah, by the way, this is this is uh, really awesome because it displays just how great competitive markets are because their Tech is so competitive. Yeah It is and then you have google Which they're still doing and I guess it's taken off where they're doing these certificates These I think is it google six month. So six month courses that they'll weigh as heavily as a bachelor degree Yeah, and and I feel like this is kind of a natural progression to that like this whole like that Like that's like the first thing Oh, we'll start paying for some of your school before long It's gonna be like you go to our school and then you guarantee job here or whatever And again, this is the beauty of the market as it gets more advanced You don't just attract customers with product and price although that's still king But you also throw other things into attract the type of customer you want for example Our partner public goods, right? So public goods sells Home products they sell dog food. They sell, you know other products there and their whole thing is you save money Minimal packaging environmentally Definitely environmentally conscious very low cost very very extremely low cost But they're also doing this carbon neutral thing where for every for whatever carbon footprint they put out They'll grow that many trees to offset it. Oh, that's great. So they're neutral Carbon neutral as part of their is it every time someone buys something or is a certain amount that is spent? Do you know Doug what that is? I know that he did something like every order. Oh every one tree. Oh, no way Wow, you know what you can grow to do that man I remember reading that like how just just one tree can impact the environment like so positively versus You know what your output of carbon. Do you know what plant? There's a plant that does that incredibly and grows very fast cannabis cannabis Cannabis is a phenomenal Plant to capture carbon. I didn't know that. It's also why did I not know that it also grows very very quickly And you also cannabis not do yeah, and you can also use cannabis to make medicines or you know fun stuff How could you not be not be pro marijuana for people for people so many good things I think a lot of people are pro marijuana. That's just their forget Well, you gotta do some about maybe think of this was like, you know, you brought the other day You were starting to bring like good news I want I want to make a conscious effort to be a platform That especially in a time right now when there's so much negative bullshit and Separating all of us and talking about all the bad stuff like to try and bring like Really cool things that companies and people and positive things that are happening Uh, I saw another one with air bnb. I didn't know air bnb did this also. They have like a um non-profit arm and they will they are going to be housing 20,000 Refugees from afghan Wow, yeah from afghanistan. Yeah 20,000 will be housed through air bnb And they basically give a voucher to owner. So let's say we rented some of our houses on air bnb They air bnb picks up the bill and says hey, we would like to rent your house for the entire year Whatever that here's a voucher for that. That's great. Yeah, and they they obviously they don't got to pay their air bnb fees So they save a little there so that that's going to be a discounted rate So I get what we would normally make as far as wow, that's really interesting I know I would guess that if you if you were this is my assumption Okay, so I obviously have nothing to back this up But I would assume That if you took someone like that and put them in your place That they would probably be excellent People in your home because they're out. They're probably very grateful. And in my experience You know immigrants that come over that way tend to be very they tend to really value You know what they have that's just my yeah, that's a positive thought. I don't know if how true that is though You're right, but I but that's that's my assumption because I believe that there's stuff to support when people get things for free They're less likely to treat it well, right? Well, it's not entirely you're right, but it's not entirely for free. It's like, hey You're not in free, you know, you're not under the Taliban anymore You know, I mean hey welcome I mean, I I I want to believe what you're saying is 100 true and that Somebody in that situation would be so grateful and appreciative that they would go above and beyond to take care of that But you know human behaviors interesting actually, I got a quote for you Adam that I would love To talk about because I didn't know actually post you ever do this on facebook where it says You know eight years ago you posted this or whatever and sometimes it makes me sad because I see old videos of my kids and stuff And I'm like, oh, why'd you show me this? But every once in a while I see a meme or a quote that I posted that I totally forgot about This is a quote from Henry Ford. I think it's absolutely brilliant And it's a great thing. I think this will start a good conversation So here's the quote If I had asked people what they wanted they would have said faster horses So that's a quote from Henry Ford in other words, you know in business you're always told ask your customers what they want But when you're really innovating Like they're not going to even come up with to think beyond them. Yeah, exactly So it's like I I didn't ask them because what are they going to say they want faster? I thought that was a very interesting You got to be a special kind of entrepreneur though to have right I think right away. I think of the Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos people like that if you ask those guys, you know Or what the fields are and oh could you make this, uh, you know Could you make mail delivered faster and you know Bezos things like I'm going to reinvent it completely and turn it upside down And yeah, you're asking the wrong question, right like they have the ability to see a whole different vision Yeah, you know for a long time The u.s. Postal service would they just laughed and said it's totally impossible to deliver things Next day they said it's just not going to work. It'll never work. It's impossible And then of course amazon's like yeah, we can do it and then now everybody's trying to you know Everybody is there anything that comes to mind for you guys right now that seems like that that seems like Oh, we'll be we'll have to use this way of doing things forever Because it's just there's no way to do it in a feasible way to do any other way that will get disrupted You know what what's the next big industry to get disrupted? That's a good question You know what I think with dmv. I'll never get disrupted Unless we decentralize it Yeah, dude, my so my son's gonna get his license and you go in the dv dmv and it's like what did I just go back in time It is it they got like micro features there. This is insane. Like this paper stamp it here. Bring it over here They just recently they just recently moved past like the green screen computers. It wasn't even that long ago I remember it was a few years ago. I went in there. I thought I saw green Morgan trail You know what? You know what? I think with delivery I think that not too long from now. We're going to be at a point Well, you'll buy something and you'll get it within an hour It'll be literally within an hour and it'll be delivered by drone. That's what I think Well, you know, and I wonder how long that will last in Before you have the 3d printing thing. Uh, we haven't talked about that in a long time I wonder what that looks like now in terms of that being More retail or like, you know, like because it seems like the only people that are buying those are like these big companies that can justify You know making a bunch of figurines or you know, uh, construction. Are they really that crazy? We've actually we have a lot of actually mind book listeners that have them like small ones. Yeah, like huge industrial Yeah, what will be really, um, disrupting is expensive right now the the ones that you could buy. They're pretty basic But it's still a novelty. It's not like something real functional Yes, but when it gets to the point where you could buy a 3d printer and it can print complex things and well different textures and different materials That's gonna be I can't think of anything that off the top of my head. That's gonna be more disrupting than that because theoretically You should be able to with a 3d printer This technology will exist where you can 3d print Drugs and medicines through molecules. You'll literally be able to say I want this particular medicine and it'll it'll it'll it'll be able to print it for you or that'll be highly Or that that making guns will be the last thing we'll do or 3d print organs It'll take your own DNA grow tissue and boom you have a liver or you have a heart Or we're so attached to our phone right now, but that has to be you know, disrupted the heart It's gonna be a hard transition But the whole augmented reality thing I think you know does to me it looks like it's a feasible Thing and then the glasses thing it just hasn't really taken off yet Right, like people aren't just like putting glasses on and want to see holograms or whatnot But at some point it's gonna make sense because then it's like you're gonna have this whole Um, you know signage and you know basically minority report where you're like walking past The different stores and they're marketing to you and all kinds of crazy So I still envision it the as the next leap or transition as like this You know hovering kind of ball like you know, almost like a Drone that just like is is like attached to you like if you have like maybe you have the actual phone or something That's in your pocket So it's so funny like I told you guys I wrote a science fiction novel Like we called it the NIM and it was like this little ball that just fall year And I feel it'll be just like with like siri and everything That'll be all voice activation call Justin tech sal this order me this and it and it's it's recording me So like oh reply put that up on my instagram, you know, oh throw that up on tick tock your little servant Yes, and it'll be able to do a lot of that aren't people gonna gonna fly back and forth to the moon first We should have like a hold I think this is very I think I think we're not far with when you look at the way drones How popular drones are getting and how do you know how do you guys even realize how disrupting it will be when you You can record everything you see all day long. Do you have any idea what that's going to do to to just mankind? I think we're already seeing that you already see people that are moving towards it holding people accountable because of something They were recorded doing or said or posted imagine arguing with your spouse like you you said no, I didn't I said this Yeah, oh fuck. I'm wrong. You know It'll be interesting what it does to our society too as far as being a better human Do you think that like I think there's going to be natural growing pains and a lot of resistance and a lot of people that are Going to hate all that but you would think that because you're watched and you're recorded and But does that make you a better person or is it that you're fearful? So like in other words, you know, I don't kill someone because I don't want to go to jail Not because I think it's wrong. Yeah, I don't I don't think that fixes internally what's going on inside But it may make you a better person in society Like you may not you may you're less likely to say something mean or hurtful or do something You're more accountable. You may still be an asshole inside. I don't know Here's the here's the devil's advocate Here's here's the devil's advocate of me fixing that I know Here's the devil's advocate in me is like look prison people in prison are highly highly highly monitored and they're Fuck they do terrible things to each other When you feel like you're constantly being watched it might change your behaviors But I don't know if it's going to see I don't but I don't think it'll it'll work like that I think it'll work the way we're watching it happen right now. Like I mean how what you guys I guarantee just like me You before you post something on instagram You think about it You take a moment and you pause you think is is this am I saying this the way I want to say it or people Going to take this out of context and how you think about that now Where before you may not do that you would be with friends and you'd say how you feel and you would do things No matter what so you're already self-regulating naturally, you know, you'll have a black market for conversations Seriously, you'll meet up with your friends totally Turn everything out turn it off bro. Here's what I really think yeah, you know I'm saying EMP again, I don't disagree that's the to your back to your point of like it's not going to change people internally But socially it may change the way we interact with each other and you we may have a overall Better interaction with people because of self-regulation based off of that man You know, what's weird is that and didn't the didn't the government step in and say we don't know if this This merger can happen where you had like I think it was Fitbit And google or something like that. Oh, yeah, yeah, and too much power Well, again, imagine if you have these devices on you that measure heart rate hormone your health measures I pupils all stuff and then advertisers are using these metrics to see and then politicians Here's the real fucking the problem All the same advertising science you get with advertising is used by politicians to Scare you or to get you, you know angry or whatever. This is why it's so effective nowadays So if they can like measure your oh their pulse goes up a little bit when we do this and we notice a little bit of You know that this this person gets a slightly aroused and we notice the pupils increase here And they can perfect to the point where they can literally move you in all kinds of weird directions That's going to be well, there's there's some people that believe that's already happening with like, you know, the whole idea of like Facebook and they're you know recording you and paying attention to you through the cameras and stuff I think it's already being done I just think it's the thing that everyone's scared about or what they freak out about is like, you know, oh my god Evasion of privacy. They're going to use all this. It's like all they care about is selling you more So if they are using that it's literally for things like that Like oh this person got hit with this facebook ad their expression They smiled their eyes lit up their pupils dilated like okay And there's an algorithm to try and you know mark it to them better I think if it's being used it's being used like that already Yeah, but they're just not saying anything about other people get their hands on that You know what I'm saying? I don't It's interesting there's a dark side to all the advancements for sure Yeah, I mean more information. I had this conversation with my son It wasn't that long ago. All of us can remember this when Literally, this was what people said If we just have access to all the information if the average man Or average person has access to all the information We will solve all of our problems because it's lack of information and in the past The the people who had power were the ones that had access to information They were the they were the the door to the information So in the past it was the church or the clergy or the nobles and people didn't read they had to ask them What does this book say giving the information then all of a sudden the printing press came out people could own books It definitely caused lots of advancements and this stuff But now because information is so available and all over the place and they're constantly bombarding it with shit People with power are the ones that can sift through the information and know what to ignore Yeah, that's the wisdom thing that you always talk about But I mean, I was just I was just listening to this podcast with this It was real estate talking some of that but they were actually talking about the The millennials that generation is actually the the most educated generation that we've had yet So they're they're getting smarter. We're getting smarter as a society. Maybe we still do stupid shit Maybe it doesn't replace wisdom, but as far as being more educated and uh knowing more technically That's true. I mean that's happening. Yeah when they look at the statistics to People coming up are less likely to commit crimes less likely to be addicted to drugs But there is there are a couple uh statistics that are alarming Anxiety has is constantly rising Fertility is going down too. Yeah fertility. That's the has probably has to do with like environmental factors and health And um and uh, I think health issues. Did you know today this I read this the other day I would love to look it up to confirm it The average person today has anxiety levels reported anxiety levels that would have gotten them Admitted in the 1950s So that's how much higher the anxiety level is today than it was, you know, 70 years ago We were I was just talking to a client about this today and part of her job is to She works with like the hr department and their their health insurance with the company and stuff like that And they they have all these crazy things they monitor And she says last year the the rise in anxiety depression Uh like medicaid she can't she can't see the people like it's obviously they're protected by like their names and stuff But they can see statistics like, you know 10 100 people did this 10 people did that Um, and she said the last year there was a dramatic rise Well, think about when we were kids, right? So we grew up as little kids during the some dangerous times of the cold war so in the 80s, right? You had the soviet union us and however, we weren't constantly bombarded with the dangers of that You know when we reminded when we did that once a year drill where you'd have to go into the desk Yeah, and then that was it And if you wanted to watch the news in the 80s, you had to tune in at 6 p.m With your dad and like Friday or nobody gets a shift civic days too Yeah, now if you're a kid you go, I don't care what you go roblox you go on instagram You go you're constantly reading shit all the time and not only that and then in school They're like it's better to inform the kids of the dangers of the world that they have no influence over Yeah, so you're in fourth grade you come home and you're like mom dad The earth is gonna end and it's like, why would you tell a fourth grade? They don't know what they can't control any of that. They have no Greta Thunberg's and then they're like preaching it on every other kid. I mean, I I Largely not all but largely blame social media for a lot of the rise in that stuff. I mean it just You we never had the the news cycle in your face that fast that to that many people Um and because it's it's attracted so many of the young minds Like you said too like when you were a kid Even if you're if you had parents that watched the news religious every night you weren't watching I knew did you guys know the worst is they only pay attention to the titles They don't even read the articles. But when you're a kid passes on what what wars happened in the eight Didn't we invade a couple places at the Kosovo and I don't know Did you guys know about this shit in elementary school? I had no fucking idea. I had no idea Kids know everything now. They're constantly bombarded. I didn't I didn't you know why did you know one of the One of the uh, who was I talking to I was talking to somebody who this is what they do They work with people who are anxious and you know they help treat them They say one of the number one most effective things that they have them do turn off their social media turn off social media for sure That's I mean I feel off the news and turn off social media You're we're all pretty self-aware and and pay attention to that stuff like that and we're not on social media that much In comparison to I think the average person and you know, I find myself There's times where I mean you were just talking about Justin earlier like somebody DMs you and you catch yourself I get trapped. Yeah. Why am I defending myself? Yeah? I'm like I'm like I'm arguing with this person I have no idea who the fuck they are. Right. They don't care about me. I don't care about them But yet they've just sucked 20 minutes of my time of me going like what and then and the way I in the You know, it drives me crazy It's like once I start and I get into it like I want to finish I want to finish my point or I want to like I want to win. Yeah And it's like I just want to express my full thought, you know to to its extent right, you know And it's so it's like you don't you don't get the full amount of it unless I really like pour myself into it And then now and you find yourself like hours later like trying to express all of it Well, and I just I justify it as oh, it's a healthy debate And this is good for me to talk to people that disagree with me so I can listen to their point of view So I have this justification going on in my head while I'm doing it But then the way it makes me feel I'm anxious. I'm angry protect your mental your mental health Just like you predict you protect your physical health. That's literally what you have to do Like Jessica is really good at this. She turns it all off and she's like I feel so much better and I'm like You know, I that's a smart strategy It's a very smart strategy when you start to find yourself because bad news We are wired to follow bad news because it was beneficial evolutionarily speaking That's why even the three of us or the four of us we can get together And one of us will start it off. Hey, did you see what happened today and so and so oh my god Okay, and the next thing you know, it's like 45 minutes of us Making ourselves feel more angry. Dude. We used to have like positive hopeful messages out there You know like like that we're getting a lot more media coverage and publicity and it's like there's nothing Nothing I can point to as an example of a leader out there You know really taking the reins with that trying to bring people together Everybody is motivated to separate sports. It's all we have sick. Yeah, none of that though They try to get into They try to fuck my sports That used to be a safe haven it is supposed to be a safe haven I think that's why I was so passionate about that a couple of years ago. I was just like, oh, you want to chill? Sorry guy Did you see by the way speaking of this stuff? Did you guys uh, so you know that trump is going to be Commentating on the fight that or on that fight right? Yes. Yes. Okay. Did you uh, did you hear his comment on uh He said what would what would happen if you got in the ring with biden because I couldn't talk about What are you doing, bro? You know what why you talking? I don't know if it's just because I'm following different stuff or what but uh ever since he got You know banned and kicked off a twitter and then the social platforms. I don't see any news around him anymore I never get anything not like I used to like we still get blamed for everything, which is interesting Yeah, that's on purpose. They shut him down pretty good. Oh, no, they obviously they did because everything california isn't working Like I said, I used to get stuff on on what he's saying or what kind of like I do pop in my feed like all the time We're now I don't see I thought he it feels like to me. He's disappeared. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's by design That's very effective Yeah, very very interesting. You should you definitely need to protect your mental health and it's again It's like what you can ignore now is actually what gives you power I think it's really important to all of our parents that are listening because I know that I I know that I'm gonna something that I know I'm gonna have to communicate to my son and I want to make sure that like And it's such a fine dance as a parent, right? Like you don't want to be the parent who like Put your kid on an island by saying he can't have these things like he can't use Instagram he can't and it's like you don't want to be that parent because then they're going to revolt When they get out or get any free time or lie to you anyways But at the same time too you want to be able to make them aware of the power of this tool It's like hey, this is you know, it's so important like it's always been important But I see so much value in it now as a father, especially with electronics Is to have a scheduled dinner time with the family Because if you don't it's very easy to go an entire day And and not all of us get together and connect, you know, because they're older now my older kids are older now So they go to school. Oh gotta come home. We got to do homework then everybody's on devices But dinner time is scheduled. So hey guys, we're gonna have dinner in 15 minutes. Be ready Then they come down. We all eat dinner together. There's no electronics at the table Conversation starts happening. What happened today? This is what happened We have good calm and then then then afterwards is the cleanup and this is very important The kids the older kids their job is to wash the dishes and put them away And my daughter especially will hymn and ha about it. I don't want to do whatever But what ends up happening is we have great conversations and it's really honest to god It's like a one and a half hour window every day that we get to hang out if we didn't do that It would be so hard to get that connection with everybody And so i'm so happy that that was instilled in me as a kid like that was a big deal Like you don't miss dinner, you know with mom Sorry, you're cooking for yourself right now, huh? Yeah, I mean you had the motor what's up? There's like four days, dude. I'm like, um, wait a minute. What? How long are you alone? Four days. Wow Yeah, I'm just gonna be come back with tennis elbow Ha Yes, but you have the boys though still right you're like the candles fill up the bathtub Dude, I I get I get crazy though from by myself. I just I get like stir crazy I don't know how to chill, you know, and so I'm like I guarantee I'm gonna be looking at certain walls I'm like, I gotta do something with this wall You know, I gotta go home deep though. I gotta go get that stuff Like I'm gonna go on this rampage of just like and then the kids are always just like, uh Can we just go like to the boardwalk down or do something? So we'll see I might do that. Do you have a room or in your new place? Do you have something that's like yours where you're gonna make it, you know, kind of what you want? Yeah downstairs, uh, I got uh this room that is basically like an office room But I'm gonna turn it into kind of like, you know a music man cave kind of, you know like leather couch and And and and like stupid sci-fi posters and you know, like a record player and like I'll sit in there Now you're gonna go all out and make it like like sound dampening. Oh, bro. I got all kinds of plans for this I wanted to get you something the other day, but I didn't know if you would use it was this uh It looks like it was like a real fancy looking like globe But the globe opens up and where it will hold like a bottle of scotch. Yeah Is that that's it? That's classic. Would you rock that or what? Would you put that? I mean, that's cool Did you really I did now if you get a nice one they can get real expensive. Yeah, but that's a classic Yeah, the one I so there's this other this company at like Austin, Texas. They make these sick like, um, it's it's kind of like, uh, What's the this it's kind of like jukebox era kind of Furniture But they have one that had it was a record player But also as a bar at the same time So it was like a built-in speakers and then you slide open this this, um Cabinet and you also have the record player in there with a full bar I was like, oh, that's cool. You know what I you know, it would be cool. It would be like a storm trooper Just like a life-sized Don't laugh like you don't think that's cool Yeah, but like Don't pretend like you wouldn't be excited if I got that for you speaking of drinking That's like a little kid like I wanted to be like a man cave Yeah, it's a big one a big speaking of drinking bars. Did you guys ever see that jukebox thing that I told you guys about years ago? That where you could you pay for songs? It's all it's all digital, right? So you come into a bar The funny part was the first time I ever saw this was actually at my little hometown cowboy hick bar place I thought was crazy They had this big old jukebox thing on the wall and it looks almost like, uh, what's that tonal thing, right? Like it looks like a big mirror and it's digital Oh, it's an app and you download an app on your phone And you can control the jukebox there and you you buy all the songs and you can outbid So if like let's say sal came in he's like, oh, I want to play the next five songs and he pays a dollar I can see what I yeah, I could bump it by paying two dollars to get my song to go We're listening to pink. I know I just thought it was brilliant I saw a video of a guy a husband who did this to his wife His wife went there for a girl's night out or whatever So he hacked into the jukebox and kept playing chumbawumba or whatever Until she realized this other husband fucking with her Yeah, the whole time so show are you gonna stock up on on zbiotic or do you drink on your own when you're alone or what? Yeah, well Somebody's been taking it out of the back. Courtney. What do you think has big plans of uh, duty? I took all the ones here for sure, but there's there's none left back there I was like looking we hid them because we knew you take the other ones Yeah, well, again, Courtney was mad at me because she's going to palm desert with her girlfriends and everything And so, you know, they have big plans You know to sit by the pool. It's like gonna be 114 100 15 there. I was like, you're crazy. Like that's gonna be like Smoking hot down there. Oh, I love introducing that product to people It's one of the coolest things to watch like how blown away you are. Did you see in the forum? It works. It's somebody somebody in the private forum goes, uh, they did a post and they said all right, you know And it was like you could tell that they were posting it right when they were about to start drinking Yeah, so like, all right, I'm gonna give this a shot. You know, I'm hanging out with the boys or something like that And then people underneath are commenting. Oh my god. It totally works. It's really weird But anyway later on he comes back on and he goes dude He goes we drank and I don't remember how much it drove was a lot and they're like And I woke up the next day and I did not feel At all like I drank it's the weirdest thing and so it was a huge conversation about And all these people in there were talking about it. So it is weird. I will say that it is a very weird Effect it's nice. It's a nice tool to have in your toolbox. Well, it's for someone like me who's it's changed my relationship with drinking Like I never ever would drink I've drank more in the last like two years than I did the previous 10 Just because I can right now a single drink would throw me off one drink would make me have a headache or not Especially if I had two or three Where I am in the habit of like if I know I'm gonna have a drink I have one of those I just don't even I do too because it doesn't even matter if it's just yeah Because one drink I feel shitty. Yeah one one drink will give me like a headache possibly later on that day Especially if it's wine. Yeah for me. Did I got to give a shout out to is it strength university or squat university? Is that the name of the university great quote? So great quote. So talking about why your joints Are are better and healthier when they move properly versus when you don't move them So like the old the old, you know the the myth is right? Oh, you got bad knees Don't do anything for your knees. You got bad back don't do it And this is a great quote. It said Door hinges that are always moving never rust. I thought that was really good That was really good. And it kind of applies to the joints Aaron puts out really good content. Yeah, very good. He's really good content. He's he's exploded too I think his book has done really well when I pull up hit when I go look at look at yours I always see his Recommended under there. So I know he's always a solid content. He's thrown out there. Hey real quick I hope you're enjoying the podcast. Look, do you eat a high protein diet? Are you trying to bulk right now or are you trying to diet? Well, one of the things I can get in your way are digestive issues. 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You know, I read an article when I was a kid that was really instrumental in my workouts And it said that the triceps Make up two thirds of the arm mass of the arm right because the biceps get all the glory But you want like impressive looking arms. You got to develop your tricep. That's where the real meat is That's true. Yeah, all right. So tricep training, you know One thing that I learned a long time ago that I've always applied and it definitely works and I worked with my clients and biomechanically speaking It makes perfect sense Is what you really want to pay attention to with tricep exercises Has nothing to do with the grip that you're using on the handles, but rather The position of the elbow So as the elbow moves higher and higher the more Stress you theoretically will place on what's called the long head of the tricep Which is the the meaty part on the inside because it stretches when you're overhead So overhead tricep extensions more of that you'll get more of the lateral head as they're in front of you But nonetheless the elbow position is really what's important. So whatever exercises you pick Make sure you have some where your elbows are next to your body Some where they're in front of your body and then some where they're you know, your elbows overhead So I'm gonna give something that I think is going to be controversial a little bit because I do know there's Quite a few people in the space that disagree with this Um, but in my experience training myself and many clients Compound lifts. I agree. So like the the incline You know close grip bench press and dips Are two of the best movements that I saw that blew up my arms and that when I applied to clients I saw the greatest return from now There's like I said people in the space will argue that either isolation exercises are much better And you get more tricep activation and those type of movements Um, I don't know if it's attributed to the load because Obviously on an ink. I got to a place where I substantial Yeah, I could incline close grip bench press 225 plus which I ain't doing nothing with 225 for triceps anywhere else I can't skull crush that. I can't overhead extend that I can't tricep kick back that cable push down that But I can I can definitely bench that and I can fight my elbows in so it's a lot of the triceps carrying the load And that blew my triceps up that and then weighted dips Getting to and again, what what other tricep exercise? So to me it must have something to do With the load and then maybe the cns adaptation that I'm getting from a doing a compound lift like that So those two things I agree It's the same reason why you'll get better quad development from a squat than you will from a leg extension It's the same same stuff is happening. I 100% agree Close grip bench presses. I went through a period of time now my triceps always it was one of the body parts on me that developed Uh, easily it's one of the only body parts on me that developed easily Nonetheless, I still focused on them because I wanted to have you know, good-looking arms And it was close grip bench presses that did it more than anything and there was a period of time where I Progressed it like you would progress a bench press. So I was like, okay, can I get stronger? Can now here's a thing that I learned The close grip that you use on the bench press can't be too close. I remember going really close like this But that does a number on the wrist and it also flares. Yeah, straight on really It's it's like you're more like maybe shoulder width or right inside shoulder width grip for close grip Is where you'll probably get the the safety with the muscle activation And you can progressively overload that and I got to a point where I was using a great amount of weight With the close grip and and then the dips I agree with you Dips is the other one the dips for me were were everything and mainly when I started to Do things like the suspension trainer or the Olympic rings because of that added bit of instability really, you know challenged My my triceps on a level that I hadn't challenged them before Uh, it just really sparked all new growth. So I think sometimes it's just like Unlocking, you know that one that one piece that's been missing in your training I also noticed a big difference with talking about dips with, you know, body weight with added weight Compared to machine dips because I did machine dips forever I didn't do body weight dips till way later with something. Isn't that funny? It's like it should be the same, but it's not at all No, it wasn't it's like lap pull down versus pull-ups totally different and I got really strong at machine In fact, I used to have to stack another plate on the thing. Have someone hold your shoulders Yeah, dude. I had someone stand. I really did did tricep dips like that forever and it got really good at machine Tricep dips and and done all of them the hoist ones and all the different machines and from different angles and got really strong Uh, when I started doing body weight dips and I had to start with just my body weight I would do just do body weight like 15 reps got to a place where I could start to add Five 25, you know 50 pounds and then got to a place where I was loading that for like five reps Five reps of weighted body weight dips I saw major leaps in my tricep now Here's a superset if you ever want to do a pre exhaust superset for triceps and it's pretty gnarly is you do a rope press down immediately to either dips or a close grip bench press now This is not for the faint of heart and use very lightweight when you do the compound lift Because the triceps will be already pre exhausted and if you put weight on that's wrong you ain't getting the weight back up but Man, that is a killer. You go isolation to compound and it's a it's more of that's kind of a body building trick Right to get like a really crazy pump. Oh my gosh is that I did that I would do that with dips a lot I go Either skull crusher or press down and then I go straight to body weight dips And it is gnarly I would only get like five six reps out on the dip and really focus on the squeeze at the top But yeah, I agree those compound lifts like nothing will develop the triceps just again through experience Like those and there's a lot of controversy around that there is a lot of of our smart friends in the space that Are not they are not pro that at all You know what it is is The more muscle you have and the more experienced you are the more you can get away with Doing isolation movements and developing those muscles. You know what I'm saying Like you know now after I have developed my you've already built a really huge base to work with Yeah, and and again like the studies show you have to do way less volume and intensity to keep muscle So I think what happens is people get really advanced They build a lot of muscle and they did it through compound lifts and they did it through all the And then they once they're at that level then they start throwing in this other stuff and they think oh This is what works. Yeah, but I don't I think that's only works that way because you've built that that solid base to begin with So most people watching this are not in that situation. I also think that they they um Overvalue the whole you know muscle activation research There's a lot of research out there to that support the point that you made which is You know, oh if you do leg extensions the quads light up more than in a barbell back squat But there's not too many people that would make the case that you could build bigger quads from A leg extension than you can barbell back squats, but yet that's what the you know muscle activation studies will show So I do think there's people that lean heavily on that research to try and support Why you know tricep nothing activates the tricep like tricep push down a cross body rope single arm Yes, and they'll try and make the claim that that and which by the way a movement like that Which I think that is one of the ones that is that shows that touts all the muscle activation You can't do very much weight at all on that It's very very minimal weight and weight isn't everything and the only way to there's value to it But you you're gonna compare that to a close grip bench press. Yeah of 225 pounds No, that's just gonna beef those arms up a lot more Next question is from james straffolino Is it worthwhile to train biceps with heavier loads and lower rep ranges? Oh great follow-up question Okay, so it's beneficial to train any muscle With lower reps and heavier loads now. Here's the problem with uh biceps Most of the bicep exercises that we know are isolation type exercises and here's why low reps and heavy weight Tends to not work well for biceps is because When you start to load a curl it stops looking like a curl Let's start looking like some other exercise and you start to incorporate other body parts And most people don't have the control or the discipline to go heavy without allowing that type of stuff to happen So here's how you work around it and here's what's interesting. We just talked about triceps We just talked about compound lifts for triceps for some reason nobody considers compound bicep lifts It's almost like they don't exist. This is totally not true You do a supinated grip. So palms back grip Chin up and you do it where you're you're upright and you're focusing on squeezing the biceps So what you're not doing is leaning back and trying to get the back squeeze But you're you're kind of keeping your body really really straight and you're squeezing the biceps You load that for low reps and you watch what happens to your biceps one of the best exercise ever did You know, and I also think that um, the reason why I don't personally worry too much about this is if you're doing, uh singles doubles triples, uh of Heavy compound lifts like dead lifting and squatting overhead pressing even rowing. Yeah rowing, right? I mean, there's when you do a row with 225 on the bar There's massive bicep activation happening and so you only do five reps of that And it's there's great benefits for your back and there's great benefits to your your arms in that So I kind of allowed like my heavy compound lifts to take care of the low rep bicep and tricep work And then focus more on isolation exercises and north of you know, five to six reps for my for my arms and stuff But it doesn't mean that those movements don't have value Especially if you're somebody who doesn't heavy barbell row or heavy deadlift or heavy overhead press sometimes If you don't do those movements, which you should be doing Then then there's lots more value for that person to do a heavy, you know, three rep You know straight bar curl, although there's lots of room for air and cheating and potential injury for very little benefit But doesn't mean there's no value in it. And if you got good form, why not? I mean, that's it is kind of like one of those examples where there's not a lot of options Like so that that's a good one that the, you know, supinated grip chin up But yeah loading a heavy bar and just doing a few reps of that like it's just like You're going to have to use too much body English to to really pull that off and Isolating that it's pretty difficult. So, you know, there's just some Exercise out there more conducive towards that rep range than others. And that's just how you got to You know shift through it. I used to do that. I mean Arnold talks about it in his cheek curls. Yeah cheek curls And I there's some value and I and I used to teach it to advanced clients If that advanced client I teach him a treat a cheat exercises like that Where you can use a little bit of body English to get it up But the the when I stopped doing that was when I really started heavy compound when I started training I never before you guys I was never I never did A single of a deadlift like that just did not exist in my training routine But once I started doing heavy singles doubles and triples on these like big compound lifts Like dude my tricep my bicep like they they definitely got stimulated and blew up from that So this is totally not I mean you guys are always in the bodybuilding world and spectrum like for me like What we used to set up a lot of times was the sled and with ropes and like as heavy as we possibly could to to pull the rope You know towards you sitting down. That was a fucking killer right arm and bicep work out Blow your arms out just doing that even though it's a back movement That's what you're doing it for but you're fried. Yeah, if you're doing really heavy Back exercises those biceps are getting that heavy load by proxy. I mean just as an example I think you've probably done curls 10 times your entire life I mean most of your everything you do is compound right and yet you have really well developed arms You can see this with strength athletes. Look at olympic lifters Uh, you know incredible development in the arms and shoulders rarely ever do curls. Look at gymnast gymnasts Have incredible biceps. They're constantly pulling themselves up But that chin up that you do or that pull up you do with a supinated grip You can angle your body and make it more bicep or make it more back when I'm doing it for back I tend to stick my chest out lean back a little bit and I squeeze my back when I'm doing If I do it for biceps I'm more upright and I'm squeezing my arms and it looks like a shorter range of motion And let me tell you it's like I can't think of an exercise that loads the bicep more Then something like that in fact a lot of people who are really strong at pull-ups You might not even you probably definitely shouldn't load it You might need even need some assistance to really make it a bicep exercise because it's not easy Next question is from ft reckless. I work out of my basement and this low ceiling With a low ceiling therefore. I can't do standing overhead presses What are your thoughts on barbell z presses as an alternative? Love it. What a great way to go. I've actually recommended that same question One of the few exercises that I learned in the last You know, I don't know eight years that blew me away. There's very few exercises I can learn nowadays Where I'm like this is an exercise that now needs to be in my routine Almost never happens just because been around for so long z presses is one of them It it because of the the the way you're on the ground and how you have to maintain your posture The the extent just the extension at the top the pump you get in your shoulders is just insane And you can't you can't use much weight on it But man, it works the shoulders incredibly and it just exposes all, you know In terms of like how well you're bracing your your spine and supporting yourself In an overhead position and that's Then going to be amazing for when you have the ability to to press overhead and watch what that does in terms of building up You know your your core strength and stability To then increase the amount of load you'll probably be able to produce through an overhead press just by focusing on z pressing I actually think it should be a prerequisite before overhead pressing I think that's how how beneficial z presses is is because when I think of exercises that were either dangerous or client more clients Struggled with than not Overhead pressing is one of them overhead pressing low back is the weak link Yeah, people always arch their low back and they're they're limited range of motion in their shoulders and their tight lats All common things limited range of motion in the shoulders tight lats weak low back Recipe for disaster on an overhead press and so neither one They end up doing machines and shorten their range of motion up and just they stay in that position Or they try and do the exercise by fully extending and their low back arches and they have issues so Training somebody in a z-press first Really forces people into good mechanics And so I I fell in love with this because I I found it at the same time that I was working on those Exact problems I had so I had I had that I was the bodybuilder short range of motion You know military presser and then I remember you know training with Justin and everything He did was full extension overhead overhead carries, you know your explosive presses and Strict presses like and everything was to full extension And I just I was you could watch me do it and I was doing it like a bodybuilder I wasn't getting full extension Recognize I had an issue and a problem there and when I found the z-press It was one of the best strength exercises to reinforce the good posture and form for that movement Yeah, one other thing I wanted to add was if If you have access to like a landmine You could do like a kneeling press with that as well load that pretty substantially for one arm So and in all over all pressing overhead pressing movements can be done in the z-press fashion So you could do it with dumbbells. You could do arnal presses. You could do kettlebell presses You could do all those things and by the way, some of you watching right now who You you've never done this before And your mobility may be a little bit of an issue, but you do lots of overhead presses Sit on the floor. Just grab the bar and just focus on full extension and after 10 reps tell you tell me how you feel That's how I had to start Yeah, I had to start with just the 45 pound bar nothing on it and and just Stabilizing over the top and then coming back down full range and But progress that I think getting strong at that you watch how good your overhead press and your shoulder development is The next question is from simple not easy three. I just started anabolic last week and I already feel stronger What makes the program so effective? I did You know what? Why is your program so awesome? Yeah, why are you so awesome? No, you know why I picked this question. This is a good this good discussion so so they're talking about maps anabolic and The reason why we get this question often with this program and this will this will turn into a good discussion Is because when you look at maps anabolic with the for the untrained eye You look at the programming and you're like Oh, I I I know all these exercises like what's so great about it like, okay, you're doing some sets here You're doing some reps here. I see that you're doing squats. I see you're doing deadlifts What's what's so great about this and it's it's a good discussion because it highlights the value of programming And by the way, all the most effective workout programs that people talk about online You know starting strength five by five, you know Maps anabolic you can put that up to other programs If you look at them and these are all ones that people Constantly promote and say man if you do this you'll you'll notice results They all appear to be very simple They focus on the basics, but the beauty is in the programming the frequency Mastery of the mechanics and all that stuff. So that's why it's so effective It's because it's taking the most effective parts And then it puts it together in a recipe that just works and it does again It highlights that the complexity and weirdness of a program doesn't have much to do Uh, you know what the type of results. I mean, this is the reason why mine pump happened This would not have happened had sal sent me over a program He was working on and then it looked like all the other zumba Yeah, it looked like all the other influencers programs that are out there because at this point in my career There's there's a handful of things that I had started to piece together And he addressed all of them in that and frequency was one of them The big compound lifts was another Starting somebody in a five by five strength phase These were all things I started to hack into and realize like we're magical, right? Like one of the easy first of all We train a majority of women. So most our clients probably 70% were females What I found out of training so many of them over all the years is there's a very small percentage of them That are not afraid of lifting heavy weight. There's a massive stigma still there. Yeah, there's like one percent of clients I got in my entire career that were female that were like, oh, yeah out of my train five by five Like never did that happen So and you know as a trainer if you move somebody into a phase of training that you know One is extremely valuable and two they've never done before along away They're gonna be they're gonna see results like they've never saw before or like what they saw when they first touched Waits the first time so that was the other thing then I at that time too I realized like You know instead of doing all these crazy creative exercises if I could just get my clients to do those Five big lifts and to do them frequently two to three times a week Their body would just rapidly change that was inside the program like that the trigger sessions were also freaking Mind-blowing because that was a time too when I was realizing that oh It's not about hammer your body and then don't touch it for entire week It's that that whole balloon idea of constantly kind of popping the balloon up and keeping that You know consistent recovery. Yeah that exact and helping facilitate recovery and keep that signal up All those things are in that program and it's just a A perfect storm for 90 of the population that's interested in training And if you add all those things together and they follow a program It's why it's why it sells the most everything in there was geared around honing in that muscle building signal which is what you describe all the time and Uh, you made sure that each one of those components Was you know driving that signal back in the forefront and so it's Again, and that's why it's so effective because it has all those Implemented in there deliberately, uh, so it'll keep you in that state. Yeah, it's again It's In to most people who are consumers in this space, so they're not fitness professionals Or coaches with lots of experience It can be hard to judge a routine when you look at it, you know people will send you a program This is my workout into the untrained eye. It's all it's typically this is how they'll judge it Oh, wow, that looks really challenging. I think that's gonna be a good workout or oh my god What is that exercise? I never heard it before. Oh, wow, that looks really crazy I think i'm gonna try that and so they they just have no idea And they end up picking program or they pick a program because someone that looks the way they want to look Is promoting they're shredded so therefore it's gonna happen to me Yeah, and you know, this is one of the reasons why even though I never competed in strength sports One of the reasons why I I place so much value on strength sports like power lifting Olympic lifting or any type of competitive sport where you have to lift where it's objective It's like you really get stronger. You don't strong man competitions the reason why Even at an early age, you know, even when I subscribed to all the bodybuilding magazines I also subscribed to these obscure power lifting magazines because I really realized early on These guys and girls Like they are following the best workouts because you either get stronger or you don't right like you can There's a lot of people that look better than me that don't work out nearly as well as I do and have Nearly the good diet that I have because of genetics or other factors But when you're in competition over strength and you either get stronger or you don't and that's the bottom line So the best programming came out of these strength camps and also when you look at the way people trained or strength athletes trained You know at the turn of the century before supplements before Advertisers it was just what worked and you found some commonalities like everybody trained the whole body three days a week This is how everybody worked out. Some people split it up. But most people did it Everybody did certain lifts and got really good at them Nobody trained a failure. They all said no, you got to make sure you have enough energy for the next workout And it's like there's wisdom there, you know, and it's very deceiving for the consumer because You can get shredded on a shitty program Because getting shredded is is just reducing body fat So if you're just touching weights and you're dieting and you get lean You you might have the perception as a consumer like man that program worked hella good Like no your diet worked really good. You got there in spite of the crap That's right And the the program actually didn't help you as much as you think if you have really good programming And you diet well, it's amazing even more how much progress you can make But if you don't know that and you look at a program and what you're looking for is How creative it is or how many random things in it that you don't know or how hard it looks like It's going to be like those are all terrible markers of what a good program is And it's it's actually the beauty and anabolic is its simplicity So I had a I had a buddy this reminds me of the story had a buddy who's always had challenging Challenges growing his legs. He was tall. He had relatively skinny legs No matter what he did they wouldn't build and he did all the routines and all the combinations and the leg press and hack squat and leg curl and stuff And then somebody told him to do this program called squat every day I don't know if you guys have heard about this right where you do squats every single day Now you vary the intensity So some days are hard some days are real easy, but you do nothing else for your legs except you do squats and He was convinced because he had tried everything and I told him I said this is the one thing that's going to work for you He goes, I'm skeptical like squats. He goes, it's too simple. I do all these other exercises Let's see what happens He gained more size he gained so much size in his legs over such a short period of time He got stretch marks and his legs and he was blown away and and he couldn't believe it And I was like, yeah, it's it's the the programming isn't just the the The weirdness or craziness or variety of exercises programming has a lot more to do with Things that really work and oftentimes when we look at something that's designed that way to us It seems simple and rudimentary, but that's not that's not true. Try it out and then see what happens It's no different than a software engineer writing code. I mean one of us could sit down and put a bunch of code Yeah, I could put a bunch in a row too and be like, hey, check out my code. I wrote it fucking you plug it in. It doesn't work That's how I feel that insulted when I see programming sometimes by by trainers at try and claim some shits good like oh Check this out like no, bro. 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