 on the ground, presented by theCUBE. Here's your host, Jeff Frick. Hi, Jeff Frick here. We are on the ground at downtown San Francisco, at the Blockchain Conference San Francisco at the NASDAQ Entrepreneurial Center. We're really excited to be joined by our next guest, Sergei Lanshukov, can I get a ride? Lanshukov. Excellent, who's here talking about a project, Aira, which is Blockchain meets drones, right? So first welcome. Hello, Jeff. Absolutely, and Sergei's English is just okay, so we just happened to find a Russian interpreter on the street, so welcome, Paul Carponko from Solar Slabs. Thanks for helping us out. Great pleasure to be here, thanks. All right, so Sergei, tell us a little bit about Project Aira, how did it come about and what are the really key components that are important to this project? I started Aira project in the last year. Aira is an environment for creating autonomous digitalized autonomous, and this project, where you can... It's okay. No, you said it before, it's really about the decentralized autonomous organization. In the use case we talked about is what everyone was talking about and Thanksgiving a year ago, which was Amazon's Gunny's drones for delivery. Everyone's up in arms, how are you gonna control all these drones? They're all gonna be crashing into one another, and you're really proposing a solution that really is a good application for a blockchain in this very specific way to have a bunch of drones running in a fleet, not crashing in each other. So we're not really sure about the decision of open airspace quite yet, but that's still a question that remains to be answered about open airspace. So today there's a big problem with the essentialization of the internet of things, and so that's what our objective is, is to create a decentralized system that will allow you to use a lot of drones in one single airspace without a centralized server. So today there's a big problem with the essentialization of the internet of things, and so that's what our objective is, is to create a decentralized system that really takes the internet of things and kind of makes it more consensus-based. So it kind of takes away the key players in the central game, which is air traffic controllers and other different kind of human capital that makes the expenses very high. So this kind of makes it autonomous, takes away a lot of the hefty expenses that a centralized organization would have to run and basically makes it decentralized, makes it autonomous, that takes away a lot of the human air and the human capital needed for that kind of infrastructure. Let me put one last thing before you. We created the first system where a person interacts with a robot directly as equal autonomous agents. It's very important for the consideration of the future of human and robot relationships. This is the first case when a person and robot interacts with the means of the contract. We use those for this with an Ethereum and smart contract technology. So really, what we're trying to start really the first real connection between a human and a robot and it makes them kind of equals on the same playing field and it really sets an open space for contracts to happen between robots and humans. What's interesting is you're talking I'm thinking of the Internet of Things examples for self-driving cars all the time right we always hear if the one Tesla can look down the road at the Tesla up the street and sees that they're breaking hard there's an accident or whatever right the Tesla behind can use that information but that can be an inner Tesla to Tesla conversation if it's a Ford or a GM or a Google self-driving car this word potentially your solution comes in because it's autonomous it's not tied to one solution there's no central control and the other thing that comes up in that use case is latency right I don't have time for the information to go to central control for somebody to say ah crash ahead hit the brakes you know it needs to be much faster in a machine-to-machine way but still leverage a trusted intermediary see this is some of the types of applications for Ira yeah yeah you're right how can you are a war with look at it у нас с вами есть единый внутренний блокчейн организации не биткоин блокчейн не изэриум блокчейн а блокчейн именно этой автономии который есть децентрализованной айр трафик контроль систем и множество дронов вообще возможно чтобы к этот айр трафик контроль систем был на каждом из этих дронов то есть мы избегаем полностью любую любой централизации они достигают консенсуса между друг другом и знают точно где каждый из них находится это стопроцентная в конечном итоге гарантии что никто из них не стал so basically like that the the the blockchain can work with any any type of company of drone and basically what they're able to do is just communicate with each other to let each other know kind we're talking with the Tesla that their exact location and there is not really any any stagnancy in their location they know they're able to work really efficiently and is the intelligence in the system in the drone is it back at some central hub in terms of the communication in this controlled system where's the actual communication that's figuring out where it is figuring out the coordinates figuring out the oh my gosh it might crash you know adjust your setting where's the actual intelligence in the drone we're back someplace else information from it's a not some old ronnie but I want to I need a minute you didn't blockchain in the tree need a centralized autonomous organization so it's within the actual very drone itself so on the very very drone itself isn't the actual blockchain and the blockchain is decentralized autonomous so it's located on the drone itself so currently there's a server at the University of San Diego that is where the system is based on right now and basically what it does it it allows the server does very complex algorithms that what if a new drone enters the airspace all the other drones are able to know know about it instantaneously so it's able basically it's basically able to know automatically how the whole fleet is operating and right now it's on the server but the plans are in the future to actually have the drones themselves actually have it within themselves so as soon as the actual Raspberry Pi the sphere of Raspberry Pi advances the platform itself that that's when we'll be able to use it on the drones itself but right now the Raspberry Pi is not quite advanced yet so I'm just curious which came first the drone problem or your project ira or you know did you come up with project ira and then you're looking for something interesting to apply it to or did you come out of from the drone problem and then and then build project ira for that regulation right so what happened was they they they created project ira as this decentralized autonomous organization and the problem came with in 2014 of the actual regulation of drones and drone airspace and then then came about the the implementation of of this decentralized autonomous organization into the drone airspace fantastic story you know I really appreciate you guys taking a few minutes to stop by Paul thanks for stepping in and helping us out sir you really interesting project you're working on you know a year ago when Bezos announced prime and drone delivery and I thought it was just a ruse to get on the front page of the newspaper on the biggest weekend of the of the Christmas shopping season little did I know that it's true and as Moore's law keeps working on Raspberry Pi and a Mars law keeps working on watch out for the future exciting times ahead for thanks for stopping by appreciate it thank you Jeff absolutely I'm Jeff Rick we're at the blockchain conference in San Francisco in downtown San Francisco thanks for watching