 We were trying to find the connection between research which is done and policy development. And to see if there was a close link between the two and whether policy makers used research when developing policy and whether researchers actually took policy into account when they were doing their research. We used a special software and that software went through the words of 125,000 research abstracts to work out what in there was policy relevant and then they went through the oral health policies of the OECD countries and found eight oral health policies and linked the two together. All the papers were on oral health, only 2% had anything to do with rural. We found that just about all of them assumed that the problems in the rural areas were the same as the problems in the city areas. When we looked at the policy documents we found that they had a complete disconnect. There was not much that looked at the research papers in the policy documents. So we basically concluded that research really didn't take account of policy and policy really wasn't evidence based in a lot of cases. It was interesting when we brought it here to AFCRE and had a discussion with them and basically it reinforced their belief of the importance of having centres of research excellence who had their research focused on things which were policy relevant and that we kept the communications open between policymakers and researchers.