 I'd like to call the meeting to order and welcome our guest, Julie Pouser, is here from the community. And Danica Powell, who will be doing a presentation for us with Trestle Strategy. And also Francie Jaffee will be here for presentation for Longmont Climate Action. The public is invited to be heard. Julie, do you have anything you'd like to say? Alright, has everyone had the opportunity to read minutes from previous, any changes or corrections? I'm going to make a comment about the format. I have tried hard this time. I will continue trying harder to make the minutes simpler and less complicated and just emphasize official action that we take because if you want to do about the discussion that does not involve motions and votes, you can go to the video and see it better. So I'll put in the minutes just a brief reference to the topic discussed and if you want more you can go find it online or wherever. I just wanted to explain that because in my cast I've written a book. I motion that we accept the minutes as written for last meeting. Second. So minutes are accepted and seconded. Should we go to our presentation, Michelle? There's no reason not to unless the board wants to delay it. You know, we might just add Janine that, Janine and I met when we were putting together the agenda and decided to put some time references on the agenda to try and keep things moving and sort of have an understanding of what's to come. So that is an additional kind of new thing on your agenda is some time reference. Which is great. I was going to ask how much time I have. Is it about 20 minutes? You have about 25 minutes. Great. Well, my name is Danica Powell. I actually work for my other consulting firm called Trestle Strategy Group and I'm based in Boulder but I work on a lot of different types of community projects throughout the region. And I'm working now on this home wanted initiative which is a really important collaboration between the nine jurisdictions. It's in the Boulder County. So nine Longlaught, Boulder, Louisville, Med, Jamestown have all signed on to a regional housing plan which they created a plan a couple years ago and it was a really big deal I think to get the jurisdictions to all work together towards affordable housing is a regional goal not just each community working for itself. And so the goal of the plan is to increase so to increase affordable housing throughout the region. So currently about 5% of existing housing is affordable. And for conversations today and I think in the community we really talk affordable housing. You can get into area and median incomes and a lot of data but what really matters is cost burden and how much people are paying towards housing. So if you're paying, you know what I'm talking about so if you're paying more than 30% in your housing cost you're considered cost burdened and so what we're really trying to do is increase access to housing for all people. It's a shared responsibility for the county and so in Boulder County there's a, as everyone's probably very aware there's just some quick data points I'm not going to belabor on them because we all know we're with housing problems but you can look at from a renter standpoint 54,000 people are living in households where they're spending over half of their income on housing so 54% of renters are housing cost burdened and we have 15,000 that are severely cost burdened so we have like many communities across country housing problems and so this regional housing partnership really looks to think about how do we change that change those numbers and really increase access to affordable housing and of course when you're spending extra money on housing you're not able to spend it on essentials which is healthy food, healthcare, childcare, school all of those things that go that the other 70% of your income needs or should be spent on to have be able to you know to thrive in a community. Yes Jim, this refers to all age groups. Yes, that's great. Thank you. I mean it's a number that probably comes from HUD of you know just generally what you know when you look at people's income or people's budgets and what should be spent you know if you keep that number under 30% in housing costs you leave money for the other life essentials so it's across all I'm sure in seniors you know we could probably look at different statistics the work I'm doing is with all communities I'm especially interested in talking to seniors in across the region to hear stories and get information that I can share back with the stakeholders and decision makers. You know one of those statistics Danica around the five times more on healthcare especially with older adults is that percentage tends to be higher for older adults than the rest of the population and healthcare also includes medications so there's a broader view perhaps on healthcare and the percentages greater for seniors anyways without the housing costs woven in. Absolutely. So like I mentioned the Boulder County regional housing plan has these goals and so the big goal is 12% of all homes affordable by 2035 and that is about 18,000 homes across the region to get to 12% we're at 5% now so it's a pretty big goal and the way that housing affordability is going to be achieved is through lots of different things not just building housing preservation so buying market rate apartment projects and bringing those into more of an affordable or keeping them affordable if they're already affordable preserving mobile home parks funding sources doing land banking looking for redevelopment opportunities regulatory processes and opportunities and so one of the big things that is a part of this is funding sources so as the regional housing plan gets implemented they'll be looking at larger funding sources down the road to help pay for the land preservation and home preservation and new development. So I'm going to just show a really short video hopefully the sound will come on. This is a video we were at CU in October housing the broad group of folks from the community they recognize people in there. With $5,000 in my pocket I was not able to get a six month sub please so I can get my son back in my life. I looked down the streets for a long time it was years before I got stable What I felt really different about this workshop that I was in was that it centered voices and stories narratives that we don't typically hear around the affordable housing crisis often times it's centered on just price and people are being squeezed out there's all these other stories that make certain folks have an even harder time we need to elevate those stories. I am a party student I have two children that have disabilities and I'm here alone now and I did that because I know how to teach myself and I know how to survive. Currently I work as a mental health professional I use my lived experience with alcohol and mental illness to become certified and help other people in a clinical setting. I was a 25 year hospice worker I am involved in helping those that do not have voices to be heard I run an organization called Older Good Rescue we do a healthy food redistribution I was able to work in a 30 year H-12 position as a teacher and administrator Latino migrant community empower faith based communities and activate there's somebody in our group who's going to create a community land trust pilot learning share stories and personalize issues advocate for the right people and the right roles what kind of society are we if we don't care for each other by putting myself out there I'm putting a more positive base on the struggle by gentrifying our communities a economy can be sustained because we are essential so I and maybe hopefully oh sorry starting over again yeah okay here we go so hopefully you've also seen some of the signs they've been in bus stops and buses I think especially in Longmont and um so I just wanted to share I'm here today just to share about the H-12 initiative and hear from you really on what types of messages and stories that you'd like to share as we kind of broaden the conversation and deepen the conversation around housing and um just have a kind of explore this issue as a community need and hear about how I can help support that and then how what you can do to help you know change if you're interested in that or what types of action can be taken so one of the things I'm doing is really trying to highlight and celebrate successes of affordable housing projects in the community you're probably very well aware of Michael Holmes if everybody heard about this in your own community I was lucky to go on a tour with Carol and Tim a few weeks ago and learn about what they've done and what I'm trying to do is share this success story with everybody across the county so I've shared this with presented to artist groups and chambers and um all sorts of housing advisory boards and so you know this is a great example of what a partnership can look like when a faith based community donates land and works with this permanently supportive housing and so I interviewed both Carol and Tim to find out what what the challenges were and what it might be and what opportunities there might be for the future and just highlighting this really amazing project that just you know has I think when I was there five out of the six homes were occupied and they were waiting for their last family so really exciting project and again affordable housing innovation can be very small, it can be very large I think everyone thinks affordable housing is very large apartment projects and so I think bringing awareness in ways the last families moving in Saturday and they were doing a call for volunteers that's great to help move lift and carry and I think that's wonderful what I learned is that it was a really hard project I mean Carol in the church it was her first development project and so learning how to do that and how to subdivide land and rezone it and you know taking that process so there's a lot of support that I think the business community can help and architects and other people can help really facilitate these projects so that that lift isn't so challenging for someone who's not used to doing this day in and day out this project I've been working on since 2014 it's Ponderosa mobile home park in Boulder it's a mobile home park west of Broadway in North Boulder and it was in the county and over the years the infrastructure has become completely dilapidated mostly because it's in the county and the city wouldn't you couldn't get permits to replace the infrastructure if you weren't in the city so I had studied this and done some work around the infrastructure first for the private property owner and what we found was that the costs were so high to try and replace the infrastructure that the previous owner wasn't willing to do that but so the city then went out and got funding to purchase the mobile home park which was really exciting a couple years ago and we just annexed it in November and what's really unique about this project is a commitment to non-displacement so we've worked very hard to design the infrastructure and roads and everything so that if people would like to stay in their mobile home they are welcome to continue to stay in their mobile home for some people that's very important they've lived there for 25 years they've raised their children there they want to live in their mobile home and so we're allowing that to happen and we're also allowing Habitat Home Replacement on a one-to-one basis if and when somebody wants a new Habitat Home so this project requires a lot of flexibility, a lot of political will a lot of funding a lot of engineering it's really what Boulder's doing around mobile home parks is really I think cutting edge where Lafayette's just working on trying to preserve mobile home parks as affordable housing actually rezoned mobile home parks many years ago to preserve them from development so another kind of success story will there be any tiny homes in that development? no so if you do a Habitat Home you're going to do a standard Habitat one of the designs yep and that was that's a really good question I think most of the people that live there want home not tiny homes because they're used to living in a mobile home or they're also large families there's quite a few very large families some mobile homes are the same square footage but have some tiny homes and not much different that's why I had yes no that's a good question it's also in the flood plain 100 year flood plain so I'm not sure I think giving fixed foundation raised elevation homes is also the flood protection requirement because it's on violet and it's on 10th and cherry if you go back, do you want to shine out in Lafayette? yeah you'd never know it's there it's on Formal Creek, it's a beautiful community we did everything in Spanish and English, we've done three or four years of community engagement we worked very closely with community on a community design process and so they were very very involved in this from start to finish will the number of homes be the same as the number of mobile homes? it's actually going to be we're at 68 now and it'll go to 73 so it will slightly increase but it's still a pretty low density what we're trying to do is mirror the same as you can see in that lower left hand graphic because we're allowing people to stay in place we can't really significantly change the road network which is but there will be a community center and there will be a lot more, there's no open space there's barely any trees there now and there will be detention ponds and storm water and it'll be renewable and the new homes people are paying, their energy bills are almost as much as their pad cost they're based at $100 a month in rent sometimes the energy bills are $500 a month so the new home will cost the same as their existing housing cost which is also a huge commitment from from Flatirons Habitat for Humanity and the city so lots and lots of funding going into this project though so I think I wanted to highlight two kind of the other project didn't have as much subsidy it was much smaller and then this one is a much larger project but oh is this the end of your presentation I have some remarked but I wanted to say for the end and so I just wanted to talk to housing and seniors and older adults what are opportunities to help support and what are the housing levers and tools that are I think available and specific to kind of aging population and so aging in place so I think it's important to consider about a lot and really being able to stay in your home and adapt it to the home or maybe build an ADU in your backyard and live in that or we hear a lot in Boulder about not being able to just even sell a home there's no where to buy something else in order to downsize multi-generational living inclusionary housing so looking at using inclusionary housing funds that are captured through development so so both examples I highlighted where we took land out of the cost of affordable housing that makes a huge difference so the church donated the land for Micah and Ponderosa as a land trust so the residents won't own the land but they'll have a 99 year land lease which really reduce housing costs especially in Boulder density and fill ADUs looking at occupancy restrictions and we have really strict occupancy in Boulder that prevents even multiple friends from living together you can have more than three unrelated individuals living in it by bedroom house which is interesting deed restrictions preservation down payment assistance we just introduced a middle income down payment assistance program in Boulder fee reductions so these are all the tools that we're looking at so in order what I'm here to do is to just kind of share the message hear from you what you're seeing in your community from your friends and colleagues ask you to be involved and write a letter to your council member saying please you know keep affordable housing as a priority I brought some postcards and you know even do some storytelling and I'm just really trying to get out and meet with as many folks as possible and you know share the message and also build advocacy on champions for just continuing to talk about affordable housing as a community priority can you go back to the seniors side just hold that and then so we have something to talk about no that's okay no I just wanted to put the Longmont context out there on this Longmont is currently about 1.5% ahead in the percentage of affordable units of Boulder County as a whole however it's probably going to the next time we reported it may drop back because we had to find the affordable rental threshold at 60% AMI and we think we're going to redefine it back down to 50% because 65 is you're supposed to be able to pay a lot of money and our people can't so I think we'll probably still be ahead and we have our inclusionary zoning is causing the permit the permitting of a lot of new affordable units we haven't really seen the impact of that yet because it takes a year or more to get them out of ground but we feel like we're really on pace for that and I also want to put out I think that the problem of people being unable to downsize we've identified that we have another underserved segment which is where we want to downsize into things that are not subsidized but available to people at 80 to 100% of the area median income for their family size which is typically one or two for the older adults so just wanted that context there what would could you explain that type of unit like if you could explain what the downsizing if you in your ideal world what that would look like well you know it depends on the family so I downsized from a ridiculous 2800 square foot home to a 1400 square foot home in quail ridge and that house I paid $200,000 cash for it in maybe 2010 2011 and it's doubled in price and isn't affordable for an awful lot of people anymore but that inventory smaller than that maybe even you know it has a first floor it has a first floor master bedroom and it has very tiny yard it's not quite a patio but that kind of inventory is I think what we'd all like to live in and it almost doesn't exist in Longmont and it's mostly because of the land prices so our new density stuff will help but we need people to invest in building that and those small houses are getting more expensive the months and years go by they go on the market at a low price and then they appreciate really fast it's a problem you mentioned trying to renovate and adapt existing housing for affordable use and I'm thinking this is something I remember 20 years ago I used to drive past these mansions that people were building through Fulton Boulder County at the time and thinking gee it would be nice if somebody could take one of those houses that's you know no longer really necessary in the market for large families or whatever some divide it make for apartments in there for independent living for seniors because I think there are a lot of elders who would not particularly want to live in a large high-rise facility they're able to be mostly independent or get whatever healthcare they might need in place and they don't particularly live by themselves they don't want to have shared space either so that would that be kind of a zoning change I guess it would well actually our our zoning right now our new high density zoning is amenable to that so you know we can if you have enough land space you can have an auxiliary unit in your backyard that's what that's what ADU is so that's a good thing because that means you've got somebody else living really close to you if you're older I have a family who would otherwise be homeless living in my upstairs but that's a transitional arrangement because we have to share the kitchen and we have to share a door and it doesn't really work for seniors because it's upstairs where they live but that sort of thing is also allowed in Boulder at least for one extra or allowed in Longmont at least for one extra family and then the you can also call it an ADU if it's physically attached to your house like structurally you could put an apartment above my garage for example that's an ADU too although again on my lot it would be upstairs it wouldn't be any good for seniors if I did that so our zoning supports it as in film there's another barrier a lot of times to especially seniors being able to change their property sell their property in downsize and that has to do with homestead exemption when they sell they lose their homestead at homestead exemption for ten years that is so smart Janine because I'm caught in that I am too so really there need to really for seniors that are wanting to downsize that's a big deal and you know if that could just even be looked at or be considered or have some circumstances where you know that doesn't have to be a problem can you know that is something that the city could lobby for at the state level and I think that that's a really good point that the original legislators probably didn't think of but we do want to encourage downsizing I can't make a motion but could we quickly make a motion to ask Sandy Cedar to do that I'll make a motion I'll make a motion so after you vote do you want to vote sorry nope you know excited right I make a motion that we have Sandy look into the homestead exemption barrier for seniors downsizing all in favor any nays so I just want I think I sent out some information about the homestead exemption to all the board that there is some movement to take the pool of funds that has not been expended so we know there's unexpended funds and move it to other things other than aging and move it out of the area agency and aging component so you have some information there that you could certainly act on and ask to direct and if you needed a list of emails phone numbers of your legislators did make lots of copies today so I'm happy to send that around well I have postcards so use your voice you can write your postcard if you're interested okay go ahead Art can you define affordability or wow that's used in what we're doing sure well it's changing so typically it's usually under 60 percent AMI is considered low income housing in Boulder we've raised it to 80 percent for Habitat affordable housing we're also talking about middle income housing which is typically 80 to 120 percent AMI in Boulder County a family of four would be making about $50,000 to be considered affordable the numbers change by how much we live and there's lots of charts and so I was also offering a different definition of affordability when people are paying more than 30 percent of their income it's no longer affordable it gets complicated but I think that costs burdened people understand that more than area median income and trying to place themselves in this what is a family two long month just lots and lots of numbers but it's not getting any better I guess my next question and other than Habitat are there contractors involved in volunteering or community volunteering for renovations or do they have to actually be contractors in order to that's a really good question I was on the board for Flatiron Habitat for Humanity and so obviously they were applying a lot of volunteer support to build and same with same brain which is your Habitat I know David Emerson well and I believe Habitat does renovation so definitely but you do not have to be a contractor to work on those projects I think that's a great idea though if you've had people with contracting skills who want to put them to work helping people renovate and I'm sure there's probably county programs to actually one of my questions is the city actually has funds to do some home renovations and I know the last several years there has been funds left over and so how do we market those programs that are out there to help people make accommodations and as well as the property tax exemption and property tax work off just different ways to help people stay where they are which is oftentimes more affordable but needs some help making that happen so marketing some of those existing programs is probably something we could do in prudence I'm sorry I have one more quick question is it still require contractors who are building new development green fields to make some of those homes under the affordability do you know what that number is or how do you know it's also complicated not as bad as the area of income but there are a lot of ways of satisfying that mandate so the figure is 12% if you're building a development that is larger than 10 units I believe then you are responsible for 12% affordable units and you can satisfy that by actually building them and putting them on the market or causing them to be built you can satisfy that by donating land to an organization like Habitat or to the city which will then use it for affordable units or you can pay a fee in lieu of doing it and that means it's a graduated rate so if you build a market house a non subsidized house that is accessible to people between 80 and 100% of the area median income for the size of the house you don't have to pay the fee in lieu because we have an underserved band in that area if it's 100 to 110 you pay a partial percentage of the fee in lieu if it's 120 or above so it's a pretty fair deal that the contractor are allowed to use their land in the best way but the city always gets cut and it's working pretty well again we're getting a lot of permits for both affordable apartments and affordable market units we haven't seen a huge increase in the inventory yet most of the buildings that are coming onto the market now were permitted before the ordinance was passed which was just a year ago but in terms of permitting it's working well we also have some commercial developers and builders that do work directly with organizations like Habitat so like the new mountain brook development has eight units four duplexes on donated land the infrastructure is being provided by the mountain brook developer and that's also that they donated the land for the veterans community project thank you three quick questions you know one of the things in your clip there one of the gentleman speaking said that the money needed to do a down payment or an apartment could range into the thousands so I'm wondering if there's any movement towards assisting with that the second question is is this support from HUD I know there's section 8 housing but there's something different than section 8 there's the section 8 voucher housing choice vouchers and I want to agree to that and the other third thing is that do you have bold account to broken down by city as to the affordable housing problem in each city I do and I know I'm out of time so there we go I'm sorry it's okay I would love to continue the discussion so I can try and answer your questions you can email thank you please write a card and I will mail them for you and I'd love to take pictures of them I think a big part of what I'm trying to do is storytelling so even your story about opening your home to a homeless family and being able to help them get on their feet that's the kind of because that story if it gets told maybe other people would consider doing that so I think I'm also my ask is that if you're interested in telling a story or inviting me to another event I'd love to come back and share your story and I think your questions about advocacy and how to make a difference I can follow up with an email on that your questions you asked about down payment assistance for apartments I actually don't know the answer to that so I can try and find one support from HUD and the housing vouchers program so I don't have like exact answers to your questions but I certainly also would working very closely with Kieran Ronnie and Rony and Kathy Fedler at the city of Longmont today we'll have more information about your housing program so Amy and Veronica our research specialist would have some really great stories for you great and an answer to a question about down payment assistance the friends of the Longmont senior center through the last resort fund do a lot of first months rent and down pay first months rent and deposit for apartments a lot actually cause that is clearly a barrier the friends of the Longmont senior center and Amy and Veronica are kind of the gateway to those funds thank you so much for having me I'll share a link to the website and if you're interested in joining the home team and being part of this and helping put your skills to work whether it's carpentry or storytelling or baking or whatever it is we're looking for people to help us I hadn't heard that before I was aware of your project well we're just launching it so I'll send Michelle a link thank you so much thank you so much and your work and you're not leaving behind a memory stick or anything are you no but I should log out of my google account that would probably be my point that was my point that would be a quickie you need that would be something I would regret later it's a USB stick that Amy do you have a USB that you can stick in there that would be great but I will share the presentation thank you that would be great we'll glue that in a minute perfect you want to make a placeholder here we go awesome you have your USB I'll stick it in the computer oh oh you wrote it already no no no it was an extra I'm not that fast that was good to say thank you are you welcome thank you thank you thank you well that would be great will you please do that just so we can hear your different thank you get in and you can drive from that seat there do an interview about the home team or what we just did one on KG and you so I can put that link with you too that would be great thank you so much thank you thank you does anyone want the lights to turn off the last presentation seemed to work okay but you're okay it was good Michelle has our other presenter this is Daniel David I knew it was David sorry about that David is working with Francie who some of you know she's been here to present Francie works as a city employee in our sustainability group and David is part of the consulting group so it's not working it's not really in the USB stick so it's a way that I can connect my laptop there is this Apple? no if you want to talk I'll grab the courts how's that thanks for your time thanks for your time so we are working so we are working in a project in a section that is related with climate change climate actions I would try to speak even if we don't have the slides so we can go the general idea of the to me to be here is to actually have a discussion with you learn a little bit more about your feedback your visions in terms of climate actions the city can improve the actions that they will apply in the future we'll see if it works first yeah I have been here before so in this room it works in my career for us yeah that's your USB stick? no I'm happy to drive there you go careful of your cord can you go behind the chair can you go behind the chair there you go so there is my name there you go this is myself so we are working in trying to identify policies interventions will be more feasible to apply and that what actually can work try to tackle climate change and maybe as you already know Loma already declared a climate emergency and have facing immediate and very quick ways to actually face how to prevent impacts but also mitigate the impact of climate change in the community so why this is important because monthly climate change have been related with many several impacts in the environment and also in the human world and the communities and the United Nations have mentioned and stated that if we don't do any kind of actions as soon as possible many of those implications can actually reduce those impacts in the future for those that are not very familiar with climate action climate change is just changes in temperature, precipitation the winds that all these actually are related with some changes in floods droughts wildfires and these are mostly related with emissions of pollution or air pollution that multiple human activity have related with these emissions and one of the most known is the greenhouse gases related to fossil fuels so a credible climate action actually actions can reduce the impacts of climate change but also help us to adapt to climate change make the community more resilient to climate change but also helping everyone in the community so try to think in everyone in the community and have benefit for this mitigation and adaptation to climate change so these climate actions have not only the focus to reduce the emissions but make them more resilient in the community but also try to strain the community make more strain the economy reduce the air pollution to the human health so there are many other co-benefits so what is working now what is in the process now in the city of Longland is actually identify climate action in different sectors and this is four main sectors that we are working on try to identify the kind of actions in each of those sectors can help us to reduce the emissions but also improve the resilience of the community and here are some examples of this this is only transportation so one example is to actually improve the network and the quality of the service that already exists that the bus is free but maybe we need to improve it to other geographical locations improve the frequency so expand the schedules so thinking how to this actually intervention how to reduce not only the emissions but also improve the quality of life in the community other example is improving how we actually decided to move inside the city maybe we choose a better mode of transport like we need to also meet this greenhouse gases will be beneficial for the environment but also for the community and that could be cycling using full transportation or walking so incentivize this mode of transport will be a good way to actually tackle mitigation without being in the community while there is infrastructure there already exists bike lanes in the city but the bike lanes network maybe is not fully connected we actually improve that connectivity who actually attract more cyclists and try to reduce the virus to reduce the bicycles inside the city as a substitution mode for other transport modes that actually meet greenhouse gases so if you everyone need to go to work at the same time there are jams so the traffic will be worse you have flexibility maybe you don't need to arrive at work at the same time that everyone so you can reduce the commute but maybe you can also work from home so you don't need to move to another place so you can also really help to reduce emissions and finally the most common one is like electric vehicles and electrification is one of the big solutions that have been proposed is not in terms of the emissions grid but maybe then provide another co-benefits like we jump to walk in or start to improve transportation reduce also traffic accidents noise and actually we can see and gather more with our communities so these are some examples of this climate actions that could help to reduce emissions that it calls mitigations and adapt and make it more resilient in the community that it calls adaptations so what we need from you is actually input to identify how we can make better these specific actions which kind of those actions may be from new patients who will be harmful or have unintended consequences that may be a lot of stations to charge electric vehicles doesn't help to you because you don't have electric vehicles because you don't have access to these kind of very expensive vehicles so try to take the different point of views to try to improve these specific climate actions and finally what we call missing in this process because we are part of the community these climate actions coming from a group of citizens and persons also inside of the city and experts but we actually don't gather all the visions possible from the city and it is important from us to hear from different parts of the community to actually understand better how these climate actions can be implemented in a better way that actually benefit for everyone any kind of part of the community so I have this printed for you so maybe what I wanted to start to do is a quick description of in terms of those sorry here in those ones that we have from transportation try to thinking which we kind of things could be missing here that you think will be important we kind of yeah sure we kind of things maybe will be not totally beneficial for you or something that you think that makes a lot of sense or what could be missing from this perspective yeah before she any of the board starts speaking David do you David do you need a recorder do you need me to make notes I will take notes either way I don't want it actually I wanted to refer to the discussion but it would be possible I wanted to actually collect your email addresses because we haven't surveyed is that what the clipboard is so if you agree with that because I know that we don't have a lot of time that will be a more efficient way to start to finish the session but I want to start a discussion so you feel familiar with what we are discussing and what the survey is about so think in terms of these common actions in terms of transportation and these questions so I know people and I'm familiar with the lack of transportation and why people use their vehicles and not the bus I think the bus route should be reviewed and overhauled so that they go places that people want to go grocery store to the dentist to the doctor I read that Boulder overhauled their bus routes and they use it so how about Longmont it's time yeah so for that what you suggest we need to understand better how the people were their destination were they actually the people for regions and destinations yeah I mean Longmont keeps growing for instance I live in southwest Longmont and there is no bus that goes down to town to my dentist to my doctor it doesn't happen perfect so I have to agree with that because if I want to go and I was on the planning academy is that I cannot bike ride from my home on the west side from Longs Peak Avenue to Whole Foods and Village of the Peaks you certainly would never ride on hover unless you wanted to be killed so there is no as you said this Susan is there is no connection between what you need to do and what is a safe bike route I also want to put in a plug for electric charging stations every electric car is a Tesla yeah my sister in law just bought a VW electric they are cheap they only go 150 miles so electric charging stations everywhere would be helpful and also support for I'm not a fan of solar paneling but some people are support financial incentives for solar paneling and I know the ranch many ranchers have them but I think for the homes on new construction should be required to have solar good, excellent so I want to go back for more specificity so when you mention bike rides and safety because one of the actions based on why hope it exists but you feel like this type of violence is something that encourage you to use it yeah definitely same as the bus it has to go some place and it has to be the west side of town is like you don't exist as far as connectivity I have to agree I think one of the issues in and around transportation involves having to work with RTD you know we don't have a city bus and so RTD is facing challenges financially with hiring employees and so that's an obstacle in itself I wish I had a very good solution to that problem but I don't and they kind of dictate where the buses will go where they need to go but you know where they are going to go so this is a great point because one of the questions that you will see in the survey you are willing to answer that survey is like also thinking in possibilities on what as you mentioned maybe the city will have all the resources to actually implement everything so 100% will maintain it for several, several years I think innovative solutions to actually the city can support this kind of actions for climate change the very other priorities also in the city that need to be covered where do you have any suggestions or ideas on what will be an innovative way to attract resources or support these activities in the long term maybe the short term will be easy or more feasible to do it but in the long term we need to actually maintain and so thinking in other solutions and different ways to actually support the maintenance of these interventions will be very helpful for us to hear from you your perspective if we try to think like that we don't have all the solutions so the city provides financial support for free bus services here by reason to drive ROTD so I'm wondering if those resources can be deployed away from ROTD within the city for the to run transportation such as jitney buses smaller buses those buses are always empty electric so rather than giving all money to someone who it doesn't meet the needs of the city and we're providing them financial support to do something that they don't do very well so improve efficiency like as you mentioned we have five big buses and mostly they're empty maybe it would be better to have the frequency would be higher the coupancy would be higher and they can be electric that would be fantastic so these kind of visions are very helpful for us for us to actually hear from you and try to understand better your options of how you thought so in terms of full transportation where are the main buyers to actually prefer or then use all the time how this full transportation besides maybe frequency or destinations would be more attractive for you to be as a main option for moving inside the city because those sounds very logical and very nice but at the end even the full transportation is pretty as you mentioned very empty buses so why we are not achieving to attract people how we can improve that if you look at countries you can't really even look at cities in the United States and get a good example if you look at countries like Japan that have successful public transportation ridership the intelligent choice of destination and frequency are the two determining factors as to whether people ride but frequency we're not even in the right ballpark we're talking ten minutes in terms of frequency because if it's an hour your transit time is three times as long as it would be at least to go by car I think the other thing is that you have to for people who are not used to public transportation culturally they may have been born here or in California so they may not be used to public transportation is that there has to be some kind of for one different better word marketing push just by the city to say we've improved we're riding this you can now safely bike to hold foods without getting killed so I think that you know there's also a part for the city to promote it so that they get attractive you know it's going to run more frequently you know because it's a mystery if you wait for the bus when it's coming it's a mysterious thing one of the things that some areas have done successfully within the United States is look at all of the different little transportation providers and combining those resources so really looking at transportation the way Longmont is now looking at affordable housing but looking at it as a regional sort of perspective so for older adults who are Medicaid eligible they have to call here and they get their money through the state and it goes to this agency or if they're not Medicaid they can call here and they can get and so there's different providers getting different money for different kinds of things and so looking at how to think about resources differently what are we paying collectively with all this administrative oversight with the challenges people are having in scheduling rides and so I think that if we looked at really where our transportation dollars were going as statewide and certainly regionally north of Denver we would use those resources differently and more efficiently and more effectively truly so I think what we think about our TD and we think about regional we think Longmont to Denver but we have trouble even getting older adults from East Longmont which happens to be Weld County to a healthcare person in Boulder County so we have to think differently about how we fund all those little different transportation options and I think there could be some additional released resources if we would think about how we do that more effectively and I know Georgia did that they took a whole series of counties along the east coast of Georgia they made them all apply to one funder and they took all the money and they had to prove some efficiency and some effectiveness so there could be a release of some dollars if we looked at it differently than just Boulder County Michelle do you have any data about VIA's new on-demand service is it working, is it implemented? so I'm not sure it's implemented yet they're just doing some education so we're actually doing a whole series of mobility for all training through Boulder County and we start those sessions this month and it's really helping older adults to do their own applications and services and VIA is hired their own person to do their own app development so I'll be curious to see how that works because they're late they are they're supposed to be the first of the year so they're moving on it I don't believe it's fully implemented yet I think that the other piece that certainly is missing for me in this list and I said this at a city on this issue recently is when you look at a 244% increase in people 85 plus in the next 30 years purchasing an electric vehicle is probably not in their plan the bus doesn't provide some of those additional supportive services our TV does not so where does that demographic fit in some of these lists I don't see it I don't see it self-driving perhaps but that's going to be a new cost too we are not sure when that actually will happen but we are in that process but based on that what is missing for that group for that group what will be the option what do you see like you wanted to so two years ago when we when we did the thing that got to same day service from Via that was actually a motion for the city to consider a subsidized ride hailing service and they didn't do it and I'm glad you concur with me that that motion was stated that way and I think that needs to be reconsidered because that would work and the ride hailing services do have trip optimization software which I believe Via does not and so we could be reducing traffic and emissions and also of the service for seniors so Douglas County did do a concierge service for ride arranging and did subsidize it they don't know the status of that pilot now but I think that's an interesting one to look at so if you didn't have a smart phone or you weren't sure about loading your credit card on your phone and using ride arranging Douglas County offered a concierge service to help people figure that out that would be great because there's things that happen like I know a lady and her son goes to dialysis he's still in his fifties capable of driving his car wouldn't start he can't miss his dialysis appointment he called me in a panic and the reason they tried calling Z-trip first oh we don't know when we can get there you're a camp service you don't know when you can get there ridiculous that's very true yeah I think services would be even this is focusing on older adults I think in terms of provide education you need to include education of the youth that looking at alternatives to driving a car has to start very early on in middle school in high school and engage young people to become a part of the solution this is what aging needs really because aging starts since the beginning so that is the process if you want to be a healthy adult you need to be a healthy children and in these behaviors you will keep it if you're learning early it's an excellent point it's not just knowing how to ride a bicycle it's knowing how to ride a bicycle in town or be a pedestrian in town it sounds simple but if you don't train young people to stop at stop lights look both ways when they cross the road they will feel unsafe and the rest of the road users will feel unsafe so I just had a friend tell me last night who is blind she's a Kaiser member and she bought the transportation benefit which is really cheap I think it's $15 a year and they used something called Blue Nile Transportation and she said it was the easiest thing meanwhile she had somewhere to go on Friday and she tried via on Monday and they said they couldn't transport her at 12.30 on Friday it's like really? so I'm picking her up but it's not for Kaiser but because they have their own transportation system Blue Nile transport.com I don't know that one Blue Nile interesting N-I-L-E like the river okay that's good information that via is out of compliance yeah I couldn't believe it so this is just an example and we have another example of sectors but also actions that could be worse I don't know if I'm running out of time but the idea is like you start to see these options and you want to hear and learn from you your visions, your priorities so thank you for sharing with me your email addresses I will send a link to you for this specific survey when you will have a chance for more opportunity to actually bring your thoughts to different sectors and specific actions and I hope this inspires you to think about climate change how we can actually reduce our world emissions now and how we can improve our community in terms of resilience to this impacts that the climate change is bringing to us and all this information thank you thank you I just did a home energy assessment at my home because the city sent out an email because I was looking to do one I was like between three and four hundred dollars I'm not doing that but the city sent an email for sixty I was there for four hours I did that too it's very very useful very useful it's a good information yeah it was very good information it was four hours but I worked at home so I could David what is the company you work for sorry I didn't explain that part but I'm part of the Florida State University thank you so I'm a professor in Florida State okay thank you we're going to we need to move on time-wise the annual report report first draft Michelle well we sent it out yes so Janine and I went through all the minutes and all the goals took notes so I don't know do you want to give folks a month to come back with comments or if they have comments today I'm happy to take notes Janine and we can refresh it did everyone have an opportunity to read the annual report and any comments any questions anything that we did that you see that we did not include in the annual report I just had two quickies in the the board member liaison some have one and some have two board members are they two the default or one we established alternate so do you think I should note the alternate some of them have two names and some just have one so in some cases the board somebody wanted to be an alternate and we needed an alternate so if I chose to do that I would let you know but in the annual report do you think that should be noted member versus alternate for instance with AAA the alternate is not a voting member can attend the meetings all those differences are there because we needed their bylaws independently so we can't regularize it unfortunately thank you the one other question I had was the list of outreach resources is that list updated annually is that one for 2020 if you look at the bottom of your agenda it's called Janine and I started to update some of that I thought there we have two for right now that's regularly updated so I think Janine if folks want another month that's fine if you're ready to make a motion and approve then we can send us on to council it's up to you all how do you want to proceed make a motion that we could approve this that's right do I hear a second for that motion who was that she'll second do we need to vote or is our protocol to just accept it I don't know but we can do it all in favor of accepting the annual report sending it on to the city council again under old business Michelle foot care update so I think some of you have talked to some of our providers I've gotten three different companies that are interested in applying for the RFP when it gets released so I'm working with Valerie Scott and purchasing to put that together and hopefully that will be out by the end of the month and in the meantime we're referring people to folks who are certified foot care specialists and we'll continue to move that forward so we'll have the scope of services and then you all will have an opportunity to be involved in the selection process so it is moving forward and thank you I'm keeping a list of the potential vendors and the extended trip report so I did follow up with Teresa about the plantation tour that is scheduled for December and so we first advertised this in the December, January February so it came out I guess in November it is a tour package that comes from the American steamboat company that's the steam ship we're using that goes up the Mississippi and so that is their name that is under what they promote it I did talk to T because she has done this tour before Teresa Shulti T we call her she says it's a very balanced tour in terms of education it's not in any way shape or form a celebration of the plantation life or the slavery or that existed it does a lot of work I think we talked about the focus on some of the architectural element but certainly the education and the reality of history is very well represented so she felt like it hasn't been an issue they used the term plantation they could have said farm ranch any of those kinds of terms it's got this element of architect so that was the follow up that I received from Teresa thank you does anyone have any discussion about that moving on to protocol updates I realize this was a lot of reading and I do want to apologize for that these protocols that you received are ones we have had in place with our information and referral staff for several years the case management the information and referral and home visits and so we are in the process of taking these to the county level and really looking at them for all of the resource specialists in the various municipalities and in Boulder County and so it was an opportunity just to refresh there have been some in another community manager saying well do you allow your staff to do home visits there are actually some assessments that we have to go into the home and our philosophy has always been you can often learn more in a home visit than you can in an office visit so we feel very strongly about continuing that but we want to do it safely and many many other agencies have stopped doing home visits and that has not been our philosophy so I think it's important of the three of them for you all to review that one kind of from that perspective the case management protocol I would say we've done case management for years and years and people don't like that term like I am not a case to be managed the service you provide me should not be a case management and so we really have tried to make sure that we are using the right words, the right approaches to our case management and for Longmont Senior Services we have focused on providing case management services for low income unsupported and unsupported older adults so if you have the resources to pay for case management people refer you to one of the private case management agencies to do that but that has been kind of our approach to case management it's often short term we often talk about just sort of holding someone safely in the community until something more long term comes into play that's sort of been our case management I would tell you there are other municipalities who feel like this is not a business government should be in we see it as a significant need especially for low income and unsupported older adults who have no one else so that's kind of the overview of that one and then for our supportive services that at risk adults this is changing and there's actually a couple laws in the legislature right now around mandatory reporting and at risk adults two changes the two pretty significant changes are being considered one and I think I sent you some information about this one is that you will now be able to if you are a mandatory reporter as our staff are you can mandatory report to police or adult protection when the law passed in 2016 it was only to police and so they're looking at changing out so you can report to either police or adult protection what they're considering is the approach has been from our adult protective services when they go out on a self-neglect call they'll say Susan what's your name when you're born who's president, where do you live who's your blah blah blah if Susan can answer all those questions and appears fairly cogent they're going to say we've been asked to check you out do you still want us to be involved no I don't want you involved I can take care of myself they will leave the law is looking at changing so that they will still have to do an investigation whether you appear cognitively able or not so that's kind of a change it will result in more investigation time and more work so those are a couple things happening in the elder and at risk adult world this is kind of our protocol of how we treat self-neglect as a staff versus a mandatory report when there is a suspicion of abuse neglect or exploitation so I don't know that you want to discuss if you came prepared to discuss I'd love to hear your comments or we can certainly you can write them down and leave them with me however you so choose a lot of reading and a lot of preparation today can I just make one comment when I looked at these I was really pleased to see the emphasis on staff safety and I think I'm assuming that that would apply to volunteer who shouldn't they have an occasion to do a whole visit I know from my experience I had one really dicey experience as a volunteer for peer counseling going to a private home I wish I had been bright enough to think of some of these protective things at that time and so on I hope the volunteers will be made aware of and I think we need to do a better job of weaving that volunteer component into these protocols so thank you for mentioning that I was pretty impressed with that I did have a question about how do you see a bed bug but you asked so we often know ahead of time because people will say I need help we have bed bugs I need help we need it customer service issues Marcia yes I had a constituent who is a snowbird so they live part of the time somewhere else and part of the time here during the time that they're here they're away they have a friend in the home so that it's not unoccupied and the snowbird woman has a mother with dementia who lives with her and a recently deceased father and the situation is that the electric bills are in the deceased father's name the city utility bills in the deceased father's name and we don't have any procedure for changing the name on an account or canceling an account and starting up a new one if you are remote you're supposed to walk the death certificate in and go through this big that just cannot be done remotely and so what we have is a woman approximately my age and her mother with some form of dementia and the mother gets triggered every month when the bill comes and I've been working with her for weeks and we have not satisfactorily resolved that they've now told her that she can use the computer interface well the computer interface exists but she can't use it and so I still don't have resolution for this woman and I'm sure that her case is not alone I'm sure because my mother lived with me with dementia and I went through all of that in terms of establishing a conservatorship and getting all the accounts switched around and I would like to have this board recommend that the city utility billing take a look at improving the usability of those remote control services for older adults because they're not usable now and we need to review I will make a motion in council no matter what but I would it would be a lot stronger if you guys would vote to support at the idea so if you like and I'm happy to hear discussion on it Are you eliminating it to things like utility accounts or other types of that was the triggering event but if others have suggestions for customer service that is failing for older adults let's make a list I had a situation with Direct TV which is in the spouse's name deceased and the the widow couldn't get any sense out of Direct TV he said well you're not only account so we can't regulate Direct TV unfortunately although that might be another lobbying suggestion is that the state could have regulations for operating a business here and that might even be a separate resolution but right now I think we're talking about city services I would absolutely invite all of you to email me if there's a situation that comes up that is a particular issue for an older adult within a city service I am absolutely committed to following up with my colleagues I have pretty good relationships with most of them around specific issues and one of the things that we've been working on through the senior computer tech program is a workshop a one time workshop we've been working on here's all the city sort of technology interfaces and what they can do for you how to work them and actually use the class as sort of a review of what's not working what's not very friendly and what is really great so it's good to have specifics like the one Marshall is raising certainly on top of dealing with this it just compiles compounds everything so I would love to know those specifics so that I can follow up on them immediately as I can and it helps us design this program we've been talking to the assistant city manager about doing about the various changes in technology that some people are not necessarily able to keep up but it's inside as well as outside the city just failed to consider all the use cases around people who are not just that they're not good with a computer but they're situations that aren't every day you know the city knows how to handle it if you move if you're going to cancel your account if you're starting a new account and then they think they're done but all these ones about conservatorships and deaths and family consolidations handle that very well it's not just one month no it's all over but one month we can control another good one they add to the list what I'm going to suggest is maybe we should think about it for a month or two months and then put it back on the agenda but let's not forget it because you're right collecting incident reports would be great another one which is the special services for people that have medical devices at home which is both getting a discount on their electric rates and being on the list for first restoration of service after an outage and having somebody come check on you to see if you lost consciousness while your respirator wasn't working and stuff like that the city has a service that people know about it and it's not easy to sign up for and he's out on the city's website somewhere, yeah the city's website I have to tell you leads a lot to be desired myself and I'm pretty computer literate me too so we do the motion for do we need a motion or does anybody have an objection to collecting reports and coming back in two months or something Michelle sets the agenda then we don't need a motion between Jeanine and I's notes we'll make sure it gets back because to put it in a generic form to present we need to include all of a whole gamut of things and to make it in the form of a recommendation so we're tabling that to when two months is what I heard Marcia say two months or two but not long not long I thought one month is probably too short because you have friends and you don't talk to them every single month and if you can give that information to Michelle or I so that we can put it in a format that would include everybody's experience and concern regarding these services and how the city attends to them okay thank you all I think it's clear that we hit a note with this one oh it's awesome, naughty heads so I would like to move on in terms of new business any new business the agenda items that are on here I understand Prudence and Sheila got this recommendation from the city clerk about establishing a unique email account that you use exclusively for board communications is that Ring and a Bell, Prudence or Sheila okay so I received an email from the city clerk as the staff liaison to this board that it is a recommendation coming from the city clerk's office it is not a requirement about creating a unique email that is specifically for your board communications at this point I think the board communications come from me and I'm not aware of we've never voted by email we've never so let me just say this this is a recommendation not a requirement if you decide to pursue this recommendation you probably need to let me know so I make sure to change your email I happen to be one of those people that still has an AOL email address and I guess that's really passe I don't know and I just don't want to go through the trouble of changing my email but I would I get it that you have to take steps to do that I'm not the most savvy kind of person when it comes to that have you experienced any need for that sort of unique communication? Well my city email is public just like Marsh's so it's already completely open anybody could pursue it at any time and we're required to use those right and so I think this is probably more pertinent maybe Marsha knows the other boards and commissions than the senior citizen advisory board commission board but anyways I said and I was asked to bring this to you all Susan's saying no no no unless we know we need it the other couple things she has offered the ABC's of parliamentary procedure it's a pretty simple book so I asked her to send one I thought I'd share that with Janine they are looking at scheduling a training for board chairpersons so if you feel like that would be helpful and I can talk and I can pass your name on to that and then there is a tip sheet they've created called what to do with a reporter calls I can tell you in 30 some years I don't believe a reporter has ever reached out to an advisory board member but it could happen and if that's something you're interested in having a copy of I'm happy to make copies and forward that so you'd like to see it anybody else want to see it what to do I actually would so I will get a couple of those alright things are always changing and yes on the book given that I am not educated in terms of parliamentary procedure I did already ask it should probably be improved can you send that to everybody would you like it so we can support Janine there you go I'm always open to support in those areas I'm on three different boards and they're all different years ago I had a one pager cheat sheet on Robert's rules and they don't call it Robert's rules anyway so I'm not sure my cheat sheet is still accurate moving on to reports Michelle so I think I forwarded a request from Brandy about support for the caregiver symposium on April 8 at the Jewish Community Center in Boulder it's sort of staffing our Longmont Senior Services Table at the JCC during the symposium Jack indicated he could do the afternoon shift from 12.30 to 3 is there anybody interested in doing the 8 to 10.30 shift Brandy will set up the table and take it down so it's really about standing there handing out material about Longmont Senior Services and our programs and services for caregivers answering questions that kind of thing so April 8 Sheila are you interested oh check my calendar yeah and as well April 8 it's April 8, do you know where the JCC is in Boulder? okay great I handed out the legislative list so across the nation you know coronavirus seems to be taking polled, yesterday it seemed like only the Democratic Super Tuesday Republican superseded coronavirus on the news but our city manager is having a meeting this afternoon we've been getting lots of inquiries here what are we doing obviously the deaths in Washington state mostly older people so here's where I'm at I am really just as the manager of this facility promoting what we're hearing nationally and from the CDC wash your hands, cover your cough stay home if you're sick and keep your hands away from your face so Monica has posters similar to that one which is in Spanish back there we're doing English and Spanish oh it's in both over there it goes up and around the building on the bathroom doors we are attempting to purchase, believe it or not pump hand sanitizer and kind of Clorox disinfectant wipes to put on our two vans so when we go on excursions so you can come back because you don't always have access to a sink you've been in a public place in a theater or something and you're coming back so we're looking at having news and that's really it at this point we haven't had anything that says gatherings over 100 people or anything like that so if you all are hearing things or have ideas something I should be doing differently we're also the meals program is getting some additional inquiries like what are you doing curious if you feel like I should be doing something different taking this more seriously at this point thoughts that I need to pursue I would think that trying to get ahead of what the public health experts are going to recommend is going to be kind of productive for instance masks for a while there we all thought we should all go out and get a box of masks and wear them all the time that just makes it harder for them to have them available for professionals that need them so don't get ahead of that public health experts there are some other common sense things like put likes by shared keyboards which are of transmitter things that aren't hard and fast public health recommendations but they are conveniences for people to be mindful of another one that I'm investigating myself is blow dryers in public places may be dangerous because they put both bacteria and viruses in the air so if you have a choice use a compostable paper towel can I make a suggestion that doesn't have to with COVID-19 one of the things that I thought was a very good place I worked was that when you're in the bathroom after you wash your hands you then go towards the door and you hold the door and what they did in their corporate offices as well as the medical facilities is right next to the door was a little square thing that was compostable that you pulled out and you opened the door with that yeah so that I thought was good I also think in the bathroom and I don't know whether it's here because I try not to go to the bathroom here for a variety of reasons is how to wash your hands believe it or not people don't really know how to wash their hands you have to sing happy birthday twice you know row row row your boat Demi museum and the kids bathroom has row row row your boat I thought that was kind of a cute thing so just because I think hand washing is very important and I just don't think people know how to do it there are instructions on the CDC website too that we could use those and another thing that we don't think about is wash your hands and go to all that trouble if you use your hands to turn off the water right you need to use paper towel to turn off the water yeah if it's not sensor based which most of the more public places are now about your little wipes to wipe down the door handle the other thing is to put the compost bin right by the door instead of under the sink just carry your towel over there open the door with it so I we do not have a compost bin in the restroom so I'm making that note and we did recently purchase a piece of equipment it's a hand held piece of equipment called pro texas and we actually purchased it so that we could clean the fitness equipment the hand weights and vans and all that which actually can be used on table tops and chair rails and other places people are putting so we purchased that before the coronavirus it just came and so martin has really kind of elevated his work around that so that's been good so just two other quick things we hired Griffin Gastel he's our new custodian he's working evenings he's been fabulous I just am thrilled he's off to a really great start we will do interviews for the resource specialist Art and Sarah both offered to help with that we had 25 applications not a lot 17 were bilingual two of the 17 were not fully bilingual 8 were not bilingual at all getting those 8 we are going to have Monica call all of the candidates to schedule their interview and that's going to be 100% in Spanish so we've never done that before but we're going to give that a go so we're looking at March 19th and 20th for those interviews so as soon as I know exactly how many will interview we may just interview on Friday rather than both days so I signed up for a trip that's okay we can talk and I scheduled it for February I called her and asked her if we could I'm excited for that and then just lastly we are making some changes in our hiking protocol I have written those up sent them to the city attorney depending on how this goes this may be a similar protocol and volleyball and these are programs that generally happen away from the facility but also have a degree of ability attached to them there's some expectations even though in softball you can do different teams and in hikes we have different ratings but really trying to explain if you hike on your own that's different than when you hike with a group and so really trying to balance that experience so that's gone to the city attorney for review and I have a few names from the get acquainted and you all haven't said whether you want to continue to make the get acquainted calls this Sheila and Prudence has been a thing the board has done we do get acquainted every month and I usually bring the list to the board and one or two people sign up and they just call as a board member I'm an advisory board I understand you came to get acquainted anything happened just kind of a congenial informal follow up so I have one, two three, four five, six folks on the list if anybody is interested in making those calls I have names that's it for me, sorry I went home and what do the people call in? no, you as a board member would call them and say I understand you came to get acquainted I'm on the board any questions what was missing what would you like that kind of thing and is that done in Spanish also? it can be if the person is a Spanish speaker so one was doing it I guess what I'm saying I would help with the bilingual and I can help in English? I mean I can help in both but the Spanish people I'll follow up with both of you so Art and Susan Marsha, do you have any reports that you want to share? oh, let's see we did climate emergency and we did customer service so I'm thinking when we did housing so I think all my stuff is covered well can I at this moment just give Marsha and her colleagues a kudos so Erin Fosdick and I presented at the city council Rich Reed and Mayor Bagley did make a suggestion to add to the vision for the city council work plan about supporting older adults through their entire lifespan so I thought that was fabulous I was a surprise and I really pleasant one so I believe Sandy is working on bringing that back to you all and just a huge thank you for that we are really trying to be the world's best village and you know this organization is a big part of being the world's best village so I'm glad to see it recognized in the vision I wanted to ask because I haven't does anybody have any questions for me or for the council and I want to acknowledge you because I think we are well represented thank you AAC Sarah you have through a series of unfortunate events I did not attend the last meeting it was a bad snow day and I locked my car keys in the car anyway by the time I got AAA out why it was too late so I think that as far as I can tell without having seen the minutes and full the only thing that important at that meeting was a presentation about the census and so I don't think I missed anything but could I oh the next meeting of AAA is this Friday and it's at the Boulder County Parks and Open Space building on St. Brain Road and the primary topic will be orienting new members of the council about what the older Americans act is and why it's important and how funding decisions are made by the AAA so I've highlighted this is the agenda for that meeting and since it's local here it might be a good one if you'd like to learn more about what the council does just drop in I'll pass that around how do I have the things that I thought might be most interesting can I have a copy so I might be able to attend and I don't know where where that is but I can look it up so okay I'll make a copy I'll draw you a friend go ahead and is that it? yeah okay friends friends Susan so the friends has four new board members so they were all kind of getting their orientation for what goes on committees that they could serve on Jane Cox who handles the well you know the investments was there and she had been transferred to a new bank so she's only overseen part of the money most of the money they are trying now to get all the money including the checking account over to Great Western so all of the friends money will be in one place and while we were meeting the resource specialist sent in a couple of requests for checks to be cut to help out some of the seniors so in a kind of an exciting way our new board members Rick Stewart who was a former via driver but also retired career here in the area and he is currently pastor at hygiene United Methodist Church Chuck Allen who many people would recognize Chuck's name he's been in the banking world here in Longmont for many many years Dr. Roger Jurgens who is a retired orthodontist a woman from Erie actually Barbara Poznanitz who just thinks we have a great program and wanted to support the senior center she may at some point be a peer counselor she's a retired licensed social worker and Julie Burroughs who's been on the boards at various times so it's really a great a great new addition I would say when we look at the end of this year and we're looking at current vacancies hopefully we can really look at the participation from some of our Latino community because Ubaldo Valdez and Ednava both went off the board and so that would be a missing piece on our friends board going forward probably for 2021 but a good stable place for me okay thanks thanks for me it was sent to Jack so I assume it may be sustainability thank you TRG Michelle is not with us today is there anyone else that has any information about that so I do know and Marcia maybe you know they were looking at maybe reconfiguring recommending maybe to counsel for some of the membership or application process for the technical group because anything come back to counsel not yet okay so at this point you all already voted Michelle's term ends March 31st but you all already voted for her to continue and I had told Kathy that so that's all I know is there could be a change in how that gets determined but I'm not 100% sure about that so I'm not either okay Boulder County Latino Coalition the other thing that they talked a lot about the census there and encouraging the seniors to or not seniors but everybody to get involved with the census it's kind of interesting Pete Salas gave a little overview on how the caucuses work and I find it very interesting because even though I love social studies and things like that, government there was a lot of good information and I just found that interesting but the only other thing I had to offer on this is that Cinco the Myo celebration this year is going to be on the 2nd of May because I think the 5th is on a Tuesday or whatever and so Louie Lopez presented on that on the 2nd they're going to be celebrating and that's such a great thing and I don't know if we're going to do anything this year like we haven't passed but I just want to bring that up okay great in addition to Cinco the Myo in the park the Latino Chamber of Commerce is going to be having a huge event here in the building and so kind of education and what not about Latino businesses in the area and a variety of things on that same day so a little bit added flavor for Cinco the Myo and before we were off the subject of the census too far the nationwide survey came out that said that half the people still think there's a citizenship question on the census and there's not so everybody needs to be sure to spread it around that there's not and you won't be asked that question and that it is against federal law to use your answers to the census to find out anything about you other than what's on the census the census just because just oh is that on the agenda sorry sorry I didn't notice I just figured I have to mention that whoops my I've got a lot of pieces here I dropped that one I have a copy of that okay LEDP it's quarterly I do believe that we're going to be meeting this month the whole thing it's quarterly but I do believe the whole thing meeting is this month which would be next week so sustainability Jack I have I have a question is what is the relationship between the sustainability group that Jack attends and the new task force that David is describing this that's a really great question and I asked Lisa to give me an organizational chart of all the committees because there's just transitions there's a climate action staff there's a climate community task force there's sustainability there's quite a few different things going on so I can to answer that question maybe Marcia can but I did ask for kind of a flow chart to help me sort of organize what meeting am I going to what is it about and where are we going Jack provided slides from the recent sustainability coalition meeting and the minutes as well as something Marcia I think you sent out to me and others about some information he had from the PRPA yes and then that he had about why employee engagement is important so as I said I have not had a chance to review this material I don't know if you have the elevator version I can give you an elevator version of the relationship between the climate action task force and the standing city committees the climate action task force grew out of the climate emergency declaration it is being treated like a city commission except that it is not permanent but it is subject to open meetings Lisa Noblock monitors it but we hired an independent facilitator from the CSU some agency within CSU that works on facilitating working groups that are large like this one is and so their recommendations will go up through the sustainability board there is a review process that will happen and that's actually was documented in the city council study session packet last night so if anybody wants to look that up I don't have it by memory what that process is but it will come to the city council first the city council will go to send it on and then there will be a comment period essentially so that's the story it is a public meeting so they are posted in advance it's not quite regular because it's a large group of people that have much larger than a standard board and so it's very irregular because people have to get to them so but that's a story it's supervised by sustainability in a loose sense but it's boxed in an advisory to council yes census sorry yes the papers that I passed around were distributed at a class yesterday taught by the consumer specialist who did an excellent job of reviewing what census is and is not and particularly covering things that you should be aware of that might be scams or might be misleading stuff and the three pages that I passed around are the handouts of that class and I think they're excellent also and she said that both materials from the census bureau and from the district attorney's office may be fully complimented and distributed to anybody so feel free to make copies of those and pass them on and they have a Spanish version from the DA's you didn't have that one that I think these are really helpful so things are geared up considerably we're now in the mode of getting ready to answer questions and I think about 40 people attended that class yesterday and somebody towards the inside this information ought to be available to everybody how do we do that so and I think that the training that's going to happen and I wanted to know more about that from you about when and where they're going to be training the tech people that are going to be here at the senior center to help people fill out the paper or computer return questionnaires if you haven't seen the questionnaire yet she had a sample at the meeting and it's going to be complicated I think for a lot of seniors who are not computer savvy so if, you know, basically if you get the instruction sheet which we'd all get in the mail in about two weeks it tells you exactly what you can do, what your options are but the important things which you mentioned before is that the contact with the census bureau needs to be initiated by you you get a call and somebody says somebody comes through your door and says they're doing such and such to help with the census that's not legit emails that might come also not legit whatever you get when you get that letter that explains the process and tells you what you need to do that should be your guide and I learned something I never knew what a QR thing is a QR code? Yeah, code I never knew what that was but that little box that would be on printed materials one of the scams that's already coming out is that you'll get a postcard or something in the mail that says you know, it tells you to scan that thing don't do that just do not respond to anything that is not in that letter that goes to you if you have questions about something that purports to be census related then you're not sure you should be participating in that call the DA's office or the other phone numbers that are suggested there including the local census office here in Long Island Can I add a couple things? Sure Boulder County Air Agency and Aging did get some funds they have hired a person who's doing specified outreach to older adults in Boulder County around the census Carmen Ramirez is doing the training for computer tech volunteers this Friday at 9.30 at Front Range Carmen is also doing a very similar education session to the one Liz did in English yesterday in Spanish don't have the date off the top of my head but it's coming up very quickly we're also the senior computer tech volunteers will be here on Monday mornings and Wednesday afternoons we put that in the go catalog so somebody gets the letter and they want to come and do it on a computer they don't necessarily want to do it at home they want to make sure they go to the right site blah blah blah and the volunteers will help them get to the correct site and troubleshoot if they can't navigate the questions so we're being very cautious about calling it assistance because it's about the confidentiality but we're working through that and after Friday I think our volunteers will have a better sense of what that's going to look like for them so we're moving that forward we've asked Boulder County Air Agency on aging to focus their worker, his name's Stuart to really look in at the homebound population throughout the county working with Meals on Wheels, Longmont, Boulder and Cole Creek to try and figure that out and Carmen and Erin who are city staff chairing the Longmont Census Committee are going to be writing an article that'll go in the Meals on Wheels newsletter for those folks who are truly homebound and we'll see what we can do to help them fulfill their obligation because we certainly want to hear from them in terms of the census we want to make sure we do that so that's kind of a pickle right now is that homebound is more isolated population so we're trying to figure exactly so they're homebound for reason and let's really try to see the route reach so that's where where we're headed would happen I was pleased to see that the Census Bureau is they're doing this in steps and they're assuming that X number of the population will get the instructions and they'll go online and they'll do the computer's anger and they'll call the 800 number and answer the questions of the phone and they'll that will take care of this percentage of the population and they'll move on to a reminder postcard did you forget to do this and then there'll be a third mailing reminding them and if still there's no response they'll send you a paper questionnaire to your address and if all of those things fail by June I guess the people they're trying to hire right now will be coming and knocking on the door and everybody's advantage to answer the first step if you can and get it over with so they don't bother you they did raise the pay rate they did and actually I was at the same rain building and they said when they were recruiting and someone asked her and I happened to be right there it's now 1897 an hour I was like well that's good yeah that's good so thank you I don't have anything further but I wanted to don't know that that training was we're not training but education meeting yesterday was very good so Liz Parker is who was here from the DA's office and then El Comite also got a grant to do outreach and assistance for Spanish speakers and so we'll be working with them also so there's some good money out there to helping agencies really reach out to people harder to serve, harder to reach folks closing statements Julie thank you for coming and I know this was very long meeting and thank everybody for staying over a lot of information so I'd like to hear a motion for adjourning my motion may adjourn Susan and Art second thank you