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This is a section where we actually build the turntable so that all the models can sit around off the edges of the turntable with all their sounds playing and it's an absolutely amazing thing to hear and see. Also this month as you can see I am shooting this beautiful ST-45 locomotive from Broadway Limited Imports and this model is exquisite in that it's got all the detail that you would expect plus it's got Paragon 4 sound in it so it sounds absolutely fantastic. The sound is in fact authentic because it's recorded off the ST-45 Northern Pacific locomotive number 3617 that resides at the Lake Superior Model Railroad Museum in Duluth, Minnesota. This model is going to come out with a multitude of road names. You can check out the Broadway Limited website by looking them up online and look at all the beautiful road names that they're coming out with including a bison tenial unit which is going to be really exciting. So with that I want to make sure that you do check out the What's Neat this week video podcast show that we shoot every Saturday night down here on the property trying to keep you update on what's new in the hobby with special guests in our wonderful podcast crew. Everybody's dedicated to this the best hobby in the world and so with that let's continue on with the rest of this November 2023 What's Neat. What's Neat we're talking about the Broadway Limited re-release of their water tower that's motorized with sound so check it out I'm going to hit the button now. This is a great addition for any model railroad it's DC with 12 volt or you can use it on your DC system DCC system including Digitrax and NCE this is a great addition like I said it's a re-release so get them weather hot the MSRP is $99.99 and that's a segment of What's Neat. So now we're going to pick it up in this four-part series on layout construction as we launch into building the turntable finishing the scenery and then create a bunch of amazing run-bys using this beautiful blackstone layout so sit back and enjoy part four of the Blackstone layout construction project. I've taken two 50-foot micro-engineering girder bridge sections and I've cut them down into equal spacing so that I'll have a 65 foot bridge to which we're going to build our turntable. So I measure this out with a scale H of scale ruler and I'm right at 65 and a half feet so what I'll do is I'll draw the centers and I'll draw up the ends and what we'll end up with is a bridge similar to this in shape. I've rough cut my 65 foot bridge for the turntable out of the 50-foot girders. It's going to fit right into here. There's two dimensions on this that are very important that I'm going to use for the router. The first dimension is the thick center before she tapers up to the edges. So this is the dimension that I'm set for and I want to cut a very small circle in the middle of this turntable for that dimension so that'll be right here. What I'll do is I'll take the router, we'll router out this circle first and then we'll router out the second circle to the depth of this and carve it up from bottom to the edge with a knife and feather out the circle so that we have a perfect turntable pit made to order 65 foot just what we need for this diorama. Let's do that. Alright, because this is still sectional this is wonderful. I can router it not on the layout. The bridge is what dictates the depth of how deep we're routering. Right now I'm going to do the center section of the bridge right here which will be a small hole. Then I'm going to go around and do the outside hole and then we're going to carve out the difference in the bowl real simple. For the center section, twist. Now I'm going to set the router to the depth of the outside and if you're going to allow for wheels then you're going to set yours just a little bit deeper than what this girder is in length so you got clearance for your wheels and then you're going to build in your track your inside rail so you want to leave a height for your inside rail if you want to do that. This router and get down here and set the depth and I'm going to leave an outside rail. I'm going to carve the circle and do that with the router too. You get it important you get this one right. Out of your circle I like to take a piece of styrene and slice it and just put it on the inside. It gives a nice smooth round edge. I'm doing my final depth now because I'm going to make the rail, the edge of the concrete the rail is going to sit on. So I'm going to take this and I'm going to go just deep enough to allow for my rail height, pretty edge inside the turntable. Bridge fits right in there. I've got the stepped edge around the edge. We'll clean this up with a styrene and have a perfect little display area for the models. That's how you do that. Okay, I painted a diorama of the turntable pit with some brown paint so it's easier to see, to visualize and it is the pink foam. I've roughed in the turntable bridge and I've got a microphone jack here so that the turntable will have power in it at all times by plugging it into this jack and it'll rotate. It'll be a manual turntable just like the prototype. Now how did I get it up to this point? What you see here, what I did was I took the sides of a piece of wood, about a half inch wide piece of wood, scrap wood and I took the bridge parts and I drew a line and traced them onto the wood. Then I run it through the bandsaw to cut it to shape and then I test fit everything just to make sure that the pieces fit together. I drilled a hole in the center of the wood where the microphone jack would be in underneath and I test fit this jack for power just to make sure it's going to fit. Everything works. I drilled a hole in the pit in the bottom of the turntable pit so that it would accept a female microphone jack. I cut a piece of plexiglass disc, just a small piece of scrap plexiglass so that the female jack could plug into the bottom of the pit. I cut space with a hot foam cutter so that the plexiglass and everything would fit smooth into the bottom of the pit. Then I wet the bridge. I applied some gorilla glue to it so as this expands it'll be tightly glued, the sides will be glued onto the wood and then I set it up with some clamps and I used these clamps and just let it sit for about three hours and that brings me up to the point up to where we are right now where I've got the bridge fitting in here nicely and then the next thing I'm going to do is I'm going to lay wooden ties across the bridge, spike some rail on top of the bridge and I still needed to do some finish work to the pit. I still got to go back and glue my styrene in on the sides and then take some spackling compound and just smooth everything real nice and smooth so that everything fits, everything rotates so it's moving along very quickly now. Now there's a couple tips I want to share with you on laying the track on the bridge and that is this, since the bridge itself is made of hard wood underneath and it's glued together so you don't want to apply full pressure when you're spiking into the bridge. What I always like to do is take a dremel and I've got a slow speed variac on this so that I can drill the holes in the wood prior to spiking so that once you've got the holes drilled then all you've got to do is easily put your spike in and you can adjust the position of the rail by turning the spike head a little bit either to the left or to the right and allow the spike head to help keep the rail straight all throughout the bridge. So I've got one rail laid and I've got another piece of rail here cut just to lay on top of the bridge and then we'll finish it off with the woodwork, the boards that go across the top and then color it. Okay, here's a photograph I'm using for reference to build this turntable and this is in the RGS story volume number 10 and I'm going to talk about books and reference materials in this video a little later on. Now that we've gotten the rails mounted to the bridge I'm able to put a level, run a track on each side of the turntable pit, put a weight on top and what this does is this makes sure everything's level, flat and true in both directions and the reason that's important is because I put glue all over the center plexiglass now to glue in the center pivot point and that will dictate how we tweak the rest of this turntable bowl out with regards to putting in the plexiglass sides and making sure all the rails line up just perfect. At this point we can shorten and lengthen rails on each side of the bridge. There's a lot of little tweaking that can be done because this is a precision device. This has actually got to operate by hand in circles and be smooth so that's why we're going to this great effort just to make sure that the bridge sets in. Now this is going to sit like this overnight while that glue dries. Okay, now so now the epoxy what I did was I put some three minute epoxy in this just to set it up a lot quicker so I wouldn't have to wait until overnight so this is approximately two hours later and now I have got everything set up the table is completely level and I spun it around just to make sure I've got track here to make sure the distances are exactly the same from one end to the other as it spins around so essentially now what I need to do is I'm going to take this top I'll put some planks on it to match the prototype photo that I'm following the nice glued down wooden planks then I'm going to take this and I'm going to stain it make it all dark make it look kind of nice and then I'm going to take these tracks and I'm going to glue them all the way around the outside of the pit in their positions of where they're going to be so that everything lines up when you line of eyesight it up the turntable so that'll ensure that I'll have eight tracks here the next thing that I need to do is to smooth out the inside of the bowl with some sparkling compound I need to put in the styrene around the edge to give a nice concrete edge I'm going to run a piece of track through the bandsaw and then as you see when I fold it inside the turntable it wraps all the way around and becomes my rail which will help level the bridge I need to work on the bottom of the bridge here I still haven't actually soldered the wires from each pole here and onto each rail I've got to do that and then attach this screw this back in the lip keeps it in the same position every time so it's always level so I'll screw that in tight put a little glue on the threads as you work perfect now to start the electrical I need to make a control panel and what I'm what I've got here is I've got drawn eight tracks and we're all put the switches and then a center double pull double throw switch for the turntables bridge so that we can reverse polarity on that that's very important so that when you turn a steam locomotive around you don't short out when you start pulling into the tracks here because as soon as this bridge turns your engine around your polarity is then crossed so we'll put a double pole double throw electrical switch in here to reverse the polarity in the bridge so every time you turn it around one time the polarity will match the tracks going out that's just something to think about now I've got my control panel the plexiglass is a piece of scrap plex and I'm going to draw the shape of the control panel with this marker and I'm use a french curve to get me started because the back side is going to be similar to a roundhouse curve so I'm going to curve it around like this I just want to bring it all the way around here and that's where we'll have a straight tangent at that point same for up here I'm going to bring this around my French curve out here real nice so I have a nice curve that doesn't interfere with the turntable pit and then all I have to do is draw straight tangents on the back sides a line here and the line probably like right here okay you can see I've got the turntable control panel drawn I'll put it against this white piece of paper it will be very easy to make out so now what I've got to do is I've got to cut this out on the saw all the way around then I'm going to drill holes where it'll accept the switches for all eight tracks and then the center switch for the double pole double throw where the turntable pit will go okay I've got a handful of small micro switches from Radio Shack to install on this project so what we'll do is we'll test fit those switches into each hole make sure everything fits and then what I'm going to do is I'm going to take some tape and I'm going to put tape on this plexiglass on the underneath side and it's going to follow each one of the tracks and then I'm going to take it and I'm going to paint it all black and then when you see that I remove the tape we'll take what is left that hasn't been painted and paint that either with gold I'm not sure what color I'm going to use yet but spray over some paint on that and what you'll end up with is the pattern of the track work on your plexiglass plexiglass control panel ready to be reinstalled back onto the layout and it's going to look really nice and here's what our turntable control panel looks like with all the switches installed these are simply on and off switches now this is going to be wired up the exact same way that we wired the side panels there's going to be a continuous wire that runs from each one of these so every switch has got power into it and then the other terminal will go straight to each turntable track rail so that we'll be able to have on and off capabilities to turn off each section of the turntable so that if we want to shut down the locomotives we can do that now this I took a hot foam cutter and I cut out just a small area right here exactly the way we did the side panels and this will lay right into the top of the turntable area one of the thing I want to talk about is a double pole double throw switch it's got six terminals on it so that when we flip it this way the turntable bridge will have negative positive polarity in each rail when we flip it the other way the polarity will change the way we wire that up is very simple I want to show you this on this paper illustration power pack wires are coming in to the first two terminals these terminals go out to the track we're gonna run a wire cross to each terminal like this and what that'll allow is when the flip switch is flipped one way we'll have power plus minus when the switch is flipped the other way because this cross parallels then this will change to plus and this will change to minus so that we can change the polarity in the turntable bridge the whole turntable unit itself is self-contained all the wiring on this is completely going to be self-contained so that when we drop this into place on the layout we'll only have to connect to power wires and we're gonna connect the power wires to each side of the rails that are coming in to the turntable pit and the reason for that is these rails will always remain hot and so if I wire up two hot wires into the control panel to direct the power into each one of these tracks exactly like we wired up the blocks on the yard sections because it's all self-contained once it's wired up it'll simply get dropped into place glued in and then we'll start the scenic the top of everything I used the hot foam cutter and I cut out a few grooves in the bottom area of the turntable pit so that it'll accept the wires now I took the hot power off the main line instead of taking it off of the approach track because the main line here will always be hot so these two wires when they're soldered onto the turntable section itself the turntable will then have power the whole diorama itself will have power now I've got everything wired up just like the other panels on all the sightings where I've got my common electrical power it comes in through these two wire leads and it'll be connected to the double throw double pull double throw switch here which will give me power to everything this will power up everything and every one of these wires leads off to one of the tracks on the other side all the wires are soldered in my common wire the power all the tracks is run through this line and then each individual rail that's gonna be controlled with a block runs through this channel so everything's clean now I'm gonna take a little bit of tape and I'll put it down over this area to prevent the foam that we're going to use to glue this all in together with what we'll do is after I put this control panel in and I've got plenty of room now for all these wires this will go in there real nice and clean test run everything make sure that every track works run the locomotives through every track run them over the turntable bridge and that'll bring me to the point where once I know it works I can come back and I can fill this cavity with foam fill it up get a nice coating of foam then we'll take turntable section that's completely finished now self-contained with two wires soldered to it we'll tuck the wires down inside their appropriate grooves and we'll put the turntable down in place where it belongs and put some heavy weights on it so that as the foam starts to expand and fill the cavities underneath and it moves through the sides and start to fill the side cavities nothing will move everything will be permanent you won't have to access the wires anymore everything will function and be a permanent entity what we'll do after that is this will get us ready to do all the dirt and the final scenery to finish off this okay everything set up overnight and the foam is dry the turntable is in everything is solid and permanently mounted all I've got to do now is go around the edges and I'm gonna cut off all the foam that grew out of the edge expanded filled the cracks and oozed out the tops so this section is completely glued in tight now the control panel is not glued in yet I'm gonna keep this out and I'm gonna put dirt on the whole scene kind of make it blend in with the rest of the surroundings then I'm gonna run through and paint very slowly and carefully put some black ballast down along the track some cinders and just make the whole area look appropriate to that of an engine service facility where you've got a lot of cinders just kind of just cluttered dirty nice looking realistic type of a ground texture for the turntable pit and that pretty much finishes this layout there's not a there's not anything really to do except for small vignette scenes add a few little people maybe a couple of buildings here and there but really this is the layout it's complete no layouts ever complete you'll always bind something to add something to change something to tweak and scenery but the way it is the way it stands now we started out with what was going to be a photoprop a simple loop and it's turned into a completely operational layout that would look nice in any den any man cave or any family room this is its own complete layout from start to finish on this video you watch me build that now with regards to the mountains I know I said I was going to go back and change Mount schnevels a little bit I still may do that but the way the layout turned out now I'm not so I'm not so keen on getting a run by I don't need a run by what we have now as a complete project so thank you very much for watching this video I hope you've received and gotten something really good out of it that's going to help you with your layout building skills every one of the skills that we've applied to this construction diorama of this layout can be applied to any scale any scale HO scale and scale all of these tips and techniques can be used for your modeling future so I hope you take away something from this thank you very much for watching to finish out this DVD I want to talk about the reference materials that I use that helped in building this layout I also want to end it with about 15 or 20 minutes of good run by so you can see the layout operating outside in natural light so enjoy that but first let's talk about the historical stuff first the RGS story this 12 volume set of books is priceless they're available on eBay I think a settle such a bag about thousand bucks by the time you get all 12 volumes but what's in here are every mile of the Rio Grande Southern railroad all 160 some miles of this railroad are covered in these books mile by mile I mean you can look at drawings of trestles we used the drawings of the turntables to build a turntable on the way out I covers locomotive 455 and it's great accident that they have all that information is in the Rio Grande Southern stories 12 volumes another good set of books that covers just the Rio Grande is trails along the combine there's a lot of about nine or ten volumes of this book I've got nine of them right here and in these books you'll read about creed the city the wooden the last of the outpost it was built up literally a value of a and it burned it went right up the canyon the fire took out the whole town you'll read about that kind of stuff well priceless set of books now Mallory Hope Farrell did the Silver San Juan this was one of the first books on the Rio Grande Southern and another one by Josie Moore Crumb was Rio Grande Southern story these books are also available on eBay there's a lot of priceless information in here that would help you with understanding how the railroads ran and a lot of drawings and plans Mallory Hope Farrell also did narrow gauge country this isn't a magnificent book it's got a lot of great black and white photography that is again a priceless resource the last sets of books I'm gonna talk about is Robert Richardson has done Rio Grande volumes one two and three real grand's volume one and two simply cover the real grand railroad and then volume three covers the real grand Southern a lot of photographs that you don't find in any of the other books are in these books last set of books to talk about is Richard Dormins the real grand Southern volume one and volume two these are some great books you can find them on eBay super plans all sorts of pictures that you don't find any other reference material if you can get this type of material for yourself this is gonna go a long way in helping you understand how the railroad operated which will help you understand how to design your layout I know I've said this once I hope you enjoy this DVD I hope you've learned something from it it's gonna be two hours and 17 minutes of fun so enjoy the next few run buys here it's about 18 or 20 run buys coming up and thank you very much for watching this segment of what's neat I'm sitting here with Tyler Haney from Bachman Industries in beautiful Philadelphia Pennsylvania for this November with an update on some of the amazing products that we modelers are going to be able to enjoy Tyler how are you today it's good to hear from you I'm doing very well Ken it's good to see you great to be back on the show awesome you've got a lot of exciting stuff that you're probably gonna want to talk about today absolutely we've got some recent releases on an HO scale on n scale these are items that have arrived to the Bachman warehouse that are now available from Bachman or at your local hobby shop with what exception which I'm gonna lead off with and because this is a pretty exciting product this is the return of our HO scale 4 to 4 Turner not GE 44 10 locomotive this was something we announced a couple years ago and this is the first time we've done it with DCC and sound on board and took us a while you know to go through development and still in on going to development to get sound on board it's such a tiny little locomotive but we were able to do it this has soundtracks tsunami 2 on board it's our first locomotive with tsunami 2 so it's very you know premium high quality 16-bit sound package on board with all the authentic GE sounds okay and this is one of the paint schemes we're doing in this run the Union Pacific they had 144 Turner which we have right here I've got two more as well we've got Amtrak you know Amtrak has been very popular for us the last few years so this is the Amtrak number 1000 it was used as a shop switcher at the Beach Grove shops how cool passenger cars that's way cool yeah absolutely you know something a little bit different you know it's another side of Amtrak besides just the passenger strange that that everybody knows well with over 50 years now of Amtrak in existence here in this country and all of the beautiful different types of locomotives we've seen over the years in passenger trains and shop equipment and switchers an individual could actually just model Amtrak on their layout and I've always enjoyed the idea of doing that myself absolutely yeah Amtrak you know has a really fun fun thing but rare to model and operate for sure I have one more of the upcoming forty four Turner paint schemes here and this is the Strasburg railroad from right here in Pennsylvania a very popular scenic railroad this is their number 33 locomotive which was their only diesel locomotive not their only but they operated on freight trains and some passenger trains from the 1960s all the way up through the 2010s this is a paint scheme that at war I believe in the 1970s for the 1990s cool and then there's two more as well which I don't have right here Baltimore and Ohio and Santa Fe so we have five paint schemes being offered and these will be out early next year and I'm just guessing Santa Fe will be in the Tiger stripe that's correct how nice yeah so that's our upcoming product that we wanted to share today okay then we also have some recent releases here right here we have a very famous very popular locomotive of course the Whirlpool can Western J class in HO scale yes they are now back in stock just arrived a couple of weeks ago and this is a special release right here this is the 611 the last surviving Whirlpool can Western J of course in preservation and in operation bring it up a little bit and this is the Spirit of Rowanoke version yes bring it up a little bit hard to see but you can see right below the cab window it's got the Spirit of Rowanoke lettering that it's worn ever since it returned to operation about 10 years ago very cool yeah bring that up a little bit higher on camera absolutely there you go your dead center that is absolutely beautiful and I can see that's got a shine to it a sheen so it's the excursion shiny the way they kept it for excursion service that's correct nice and shiny and glossy that's beautiful this is our like I said this is our latest release besides the Spirit of Rowanoke we also have 611 in its traditional 1940s and 1950s era paint and number 613 as well okay and these also have soundtracks economy on board for the first time in this most recent release so those are available now got a couple more recent HO arrivals right here our HO scale northeastern caboose we've got two new paint schemes for that we have the western and maryland red white and black that named the circus slavery so this will be a perfect complement to the western maryland gp40 that we released a year or two ago all right pretty sharp looking paint scheme from the late 1960s yes we also have a new haven here in the mcginnis black white and orange okay very attractive looking caboose was a little bit of an uncommon scheme I believe there were only three that were painted in this exact arrangement with the yellow ends the orange doors and trim it's another very cool looking car yes available now so that's what I have for this month for HO and then we also got some n-scale releases as well I'm going to move the J side right here so I can show you our n-scale baltimore and Ohio EM1 which is back in stock obviously a very big impressive locomotive 2884 raise that up a little bit there you go yeah sure thing perfect sorry I'm a little bit far away from the camera but yeah these were exclusively owned and designed and owned by the baltimore and Ohio unfortunately none of them survived into preservation but you know we know the articulated steam locomotives are very popular your big boys your challengers so this is something along those same lines but a little bit different uh east coast and it's a bachman exclusive so this is the number 7606 and we also have a 7628 I believe is the other row number very beautiful two new row numbers these have soundtracks economy on board and they are back in stock it looks very much like the HO scale model you had come out with about 10 11 years ago absolutely yeah both of them are spectrum quality levels are absolute highest end both detailed locomotives that we offer right I think that was back in 2013 we filmed those outside running and got some beautiful beautiful photography of the HO scale models and I think I weathered one of those to make it just look gorgeous yeah I remember seeing the uh the photographs of that it looked looked beautiful god HO scale version has been out of line for a while but you know we always say never say never maybe we'll see it again in the coming years I love that about Bachman absolutely and I got a couple of freight cars to show off here as well okay this is our 50 foot track cleaning plug door box car in end scale for those of you who are familiar with with it this has a dry cleaning track pad attached to the bottom of it so it's perfect to roll around your layout and clean off the dirt and residue on your rails make sure your trains are operating smoothly so we've got two new paint schemes for this car in stock now this right here you know it might be a little bit hard to see what's going on on this side of the car so I'm going to flip it around oh this is Canadian National and as you can see it's got different paint schemes on either side of the car this was part of a promotion Canadian National was doing to show off the different you know commodities that they hauled on their freight trains so the other side has the in black and white it's got all different mass heads from Canadian newspapers to show that this box car was specially built for hauling newspaper paper nice yes and you folks might be familiar with this Canadian National cylindrical hopper which has the rainbow on one side and is just a regular Canadian National on the other so these were part of the same promotional campaign and were using a display train for a while so I think these are pretty cool cars you know if you want to work on recreating that train and it's you know it's basically two cars in one you can show off depending on how you have it set up on your layout you can show off the flashy side or you can go with the more traditional Canadian National colors that's cool yeah and I have one more track cleaning car as well great northern cushioned ride okay and they're very distinctive green and red colors with rocky the goat on the side very nice so there you go they're very attractive looking cars and they're useful as well for cleaning your railroad and then finally uh I showed these off I believe the first time I was on the show if you can uh the pre-production version and they're now in stock and I have some painted samples here of our n-scale animated stock car we've offered this car before in HO and large scale and it's just you know it's not realistic we'll admit that but it's just pure fun yes as this car goes around curves on your layout the little animal heads will bob in and out of the sides of the car this Union Pacific car has cows inside of it bobbing their heads in and out we've also got Christmas coming up in just a couple of weeks one the Saras here's our north pole in southern with the reindeer transport nice little reindeer bobbing their heads in and out and just to not leave out you know the folks who uh wanted to stick with a traditional stock car the prototypical our regular n-scale stock car is back in stock as well uh this has been upgraded with body mounted couplers and we've got four paint schemes we've got the Pennsylvania here got a couple more if I reach over here we have a Canadian national and we have the Baltimore and Ohio pretty nice sharp looking with the silver roof and New York central as well so animated stock cars and regular stock cars all are back in stock or I guess these are new rivals not not back in stock they're in stock for the first time so all that stuff is ready it's a order from your hobby shop or purchase from your hobby shop or you can order directory from bachlin so there you go and Lombard hobbies help support this show and that's the go-to source absolutely so is that what we have for the month of november I have one more thing actually uh we've got like I said we've got Christmas coming up around the corner and so our friends over at minards uh hardware stores yes they've been we've been working with them the past few years you know with special train sets uh just in time for Christmas so right here's one of our exclusive uh minards train sets uh an HO scale they should be in stock at minards uh in their stores and on their website minards.com by the time this airs very so this is the eagle express with the CSX GP 40 it's got three freight cars and the caboose and it's also got some accessories here you've got your people you've got your telephone poles you've got your railroad signs so it's a nice way to you know not only get your train set uh up and running uh but you know start building out the scenery as well there you go and then over here got the midwest limited uh this features the chicago and northwestern railroad we've got an f7 and matching caboose and a cp rail box car in the pennsylvania gondola so I imagine a lot of these people uh watching this you know our experienced modelers but if you're looking to you know maybe get your son or daughter or friends in the model reality for the first time those minards uh exclusive train sets are a great way to get started that is so that's what I've got for uh for this month Tyler I want to thank you so much for being on the show uh today and showing us all the beautiful eye candy and so with that that is this segment for what's neat all of the products seen on this episode of what's neat are available from lombard hobbies in lombard illinois or order online at lombard hobby dot com and by broadway limited imports the cutting edge leader in model trains check out their website at broadway dash limited dot com bachman trains now that's the way to run a railroad check out their website at bachman trains dot com