 Okay, Jennifer, when you were on Lex Friedman show, the topic of how the founding fathers wrote, we find these truths to be self evident regards to rights. And you said that rights are not self evident. Well, would you, what would you use that phrase for? Could you say that things that consciousness or free will or self evident, or would you only use that phrase with metaphysical axioms? Well, consciousness, I think is self evident, right? Because you're conscious, so I, but that is a metaphysical action, right? So I would I use it for epistemological axioms, free will. I think so. I mean, I think so. I, you know, that's the nature of axioms, right, that they are in a sense self evident and they're self refuting. If you don't, that is, if you don't accept them itself refuting. So, so I think that's a feature of axioms. It is unfortunate that the, I think it's an unfortunate wording for the founding fathers to use. I think it gets in trouble with a lot of people that come later on who don't have the context from which they were talking about and can't recreate that context, partially out of dishonesty, but partially out of honest kind of confusion. You know, the idea of individual rights is a complex achievement. And it wasn't self evident to John Locke, it wasn't self evident to Pupendorf, you know, the, the, the philosophers in the Netherlands who kind of started talking about individual rights even before Locke. And, and even all of them got it wrong. They didn't quite get the concept of individual rights until I ran. So yeah, I think it's an unfortunate wording. On the other hand, God, that document is so beautiful. It's so beautifully written. It's so succinct. It's so right on the money and everything. Who am I or who is anybody to criticize it? So it's about as perfect the document as anybody has ever written. Certainly the best political document ever written. So, so yeah, it's, it feels weird to even consider criticizing. Thank you. Sure. All right, Nick. Thank you for listening or watching The Iran Book Show. If you'd like to support the show, we make it as easy as possible for you to trade with me. You get value from listening, you get value from watching, show your appreciation. You can do that by going to iranbookshow.com slash support by going to Patreon, subscribe star locals and just making a appropriate contribution on any one of those, any one of those channels. Also, if you'd like to see The Iran Book Show grow, please consider sharing our content and of course subscribe. Press that little bell button right down there on YouTube so that you get an announcement when we go live. And for those of you who are already subscribers and those of you who already supporters of the show, thank you. I very much appreciate it.