 Mike is on. I'm already clapped Don't hurt my tube please. Oh my gosh Ladies and gentlemen, we have a problem I get really annoyed when people talk about old ABA and new ABA I mean really annoyed And I don't mean to pick on any one person that says it We're not going to talk about how annoyed I really am I'm so annoyed that I wrote a Google Keep to do this All right, which trust me If the stimulus rises to that level then we are in the annoyed level Or somebody just asked a question No, no one asked a question on this other than myself I've asked a question a couple of times online and I've been genuinely dissatisfied with the responses So I think it's time to set the record straight There is no difference between old and new ABA I think if you're doing that first off you didn't read Science of Human Behavior from Skinner I don't think you read Walden too from Skinner I don't think you read Oh, I don't know, what was that book by Hart and Risley? I can't remember that anyway The point is that I don't think you've learned your history And you may be taken a little bit of back by that But let me explain why In my asking people the questions about the differences that they see between old and new And keeping my mouth shut and not responding to them when they provide an answer What I have found is that people tend to demarcate They put a line between old behavior analysis was not ethical and new behavior analysis is Skinner, don't do that ever Why? Because you cannot look through history You cannot look at history through today's ethical lens What we were doing back in 20 years ago, 30 years ago, 40 years ago, 50 years ago, 60 years ago Was probably considered ethical at that time We might not do it today And better yet, we might actually continue to go back and do some of those things that we did back then That today we don't think are ethical, maybe five years from now we do think they're ethical Ethics are a reflection of the current times in which you live You cannot look at history You can say, hey, in 1953 what they were doing would be unethical to do today But you cannot say that what they were doing in 1953 was unethical And that's issue number one Issue number two, where's the line? Are you telling me that at some point Bayer woke up and said, I'm ethical today, I wasn't yesterday I'm not coffee, I'm feeling ethical today You're right My morals have taken over and I will be an ethical person now I'm going to crush my teeth So we don't have that line, it's not there folks Somebody once said, well in the past we used to use electric shock We still do I did a job of search just a couple of days ago to see how often it's mentioned You know what, go do it yourself I think you'll be genuinely surprised Sure, there's a lot more on electric shock from the 70s There's a lot more than what's out there today But I think what you'll find is the use of electrical shock today is extremely nuanced And it's extremely minute but it's still there In other words, we're true to our science We've learned We studied the tools We studied techniques in the 60s, in the 70s, in the 80s, in the 90s, in the aughts and whatever we're in now And they've been modified We did the research, we said, hey this worked well, this part didn't You know, this part didn't really wasn't, we don't think that was really good for kids That wasn't so nice Can we do something different? And so we do something different So don't tell me there's an old and new ABA And stop using that as a defense for what you're doing today Please Because there is no difference between what we did in 1970 and what we're doing today What you have is a natural progression of a wonderful science And to say that the old was bad is to completely ignore your history Go back and read some of the philosophy Go back and read what Skinner was talking about in Walden 2 Go back and read the science of human behavior Go back and read schedules of reinforcement I dare you Because what you're going to find out is the principles that were put in place then Are still here today We're still empirical We still respond to our environment We still look for tools that are effective And we still are ethical And oh yeah, if you think that we were completely focused on punishment back then I think you'll be surprised because a vast majority of those books that I just referenced We're talking about reinforcement Because reinforcement builds behavior Punishment decreases it That's not new That didn't develop in 2012 That didn't happen in 2009 or 2000 or 1990 or 1987 or 1968 We knew about that back when it started Back when Skinner was writing about schedules of reinforcement and discovering them Could argue that Thorndike even knew about it back then So don't tell me, please, that new ABA is better than old ABA It's different The techniques we use today are nuanced They've had a long time to develop And to be strengthened in you as a behavior analyst The culture has selected for us to do things in certain ways I'm fine with that But don't ignore your history Because when you do, you're going to damage the science of today Why do I say that? Because you're really stepping on a bunch of work that's been done Science is about standing on the shoulders of giants Don't throw those giants under the bus Because they started your field They did the research So go back and read Then pick up the 20 years later article Same book Same article By the same authors In the same journal I think you'll be surprised And I have a bit of a negative tone towards this Because I'm really frustrated at this It's something I see on Facebook It's something I see in person So please, do your due diligence Go back and read your history I think you'll be surprised And feel free to ask questions Feel free to tell me I'm wrong We'll have a discussion I'll be a little one-sided See you, have fun Bye Jokes on you You made it to the end of the video Like, subscribe, share Bye