 Or oh no Well because you can't start it now because of the API change you can't start it until after you start the hangout Going live. Mm-hmm. So that's why I forgot. I see now. We're good. We're good. Everybody good now. We're good. We're good We're good. We're gonna have a great show. We're gonna put on a great show for you guys today We should come out and we should hype the audience even though it's not in person We should have like height man Come out Tom and Veronica feed off your energy. So whenever they say any piece of news applaud All right, you know without the live audience it loses something doesn't it and does it's not not quite the same doesn't work Yeah, all right. Let's let's do let's do a podcast. It's not a podcast your podcasts are catching on Yes, the doyen you may have read nerd culture said something about them this weekend There we go a miniscule portion of the Daily Tech news show was brought to you by me Because I went to patreon.com slash ace detect and donated a dollar a month to a podcast that I really enjoy Won't you join me? This is the Daily Tech news for Monday August 31st 2015 I'm Tom marriage already me Veronica Belmont host of dear Veronica and co-host of sword and laser How are you doing Veronica? I am fantastic on this fine Monday afternoon. How are you Tom? I want to reward your bravery for being willing to be the contributor that comes in on Monday, right? Like Monday's Garfield hates Mondays lots of people hate Mondays It's it's not the day that a lot of people would choose to get rolling on but you don't care You look Mondays in the face and laugh. I Days have no meaning to me Tom. It could be it could be Sunday morning right now It could be Friday night. I time has no meaning. She is unstuck in time. Let's get to some headlines The Verge reports Google announced today an Android Wear smartwatch app for iOS that explains that while way listing we saw on Amazon last week the app allows Android watches to work with an iPhone for Notification mirroring you'll get cards from Google now. You can choose from multiple watch faces There's a few native apps that work with it not a lot You can do some voice search and fitness tracking the app will work with the Huawei watch the ASUS Zen watch 2 and the LG watch Urbane to start with and new watches as they are released Will work with this as well old watches will not work with the iOS app They say we just want to make it work. Well going forward. I'm a little surprised There's not going to be any backwards compatibility with these watches, especially with updates I find that a little bit surprising, but we'll definitely talk more about that later in the show today as well Yeah, I will add before we move on here though I get the strategy of saying that if you bought a watch before you probably didn't buy it to work with iOS So if it's a significant amount of work to make it backwards compatible, I guess cut your losses. I don't know I guess so Mark Gurman of 9 to 5 Mac reports at the new Apple TV will have deep support for gaming Including the ability to use the bundled remote as a game controller Interesting the remote will have built-in motion sensors So it can be used as a steering wheel in racing games and it will use Bluetooth instead of infrared the Apple TV will also be Compatible with past Bluetooth game controllers meant for phones According to Gurman sources one of the dedicated buttons on the road on the bundled remote will activate a built-in microphone To thereby activate Siri. Oh and then the the invite for the September 9th announcement References Siri. So maybe the Apple TV Reboot could end up being the star of the show I know the iPhone will always be the start of the show, right? I'm still a little skeptical about the idea of Apple and gaming, you know beyond the the mobile platforms Because obviously they've had they've had a huge hit there But it's still very hard to think of my Mac as being a gaming device though with my gaming PC off in the ether I have been using my Mac to play Heroes of the Storm and other titles like that But it's not it's still not the same experience for me and all of those Android consoles That pretend to be gaming, you know that that that provide Android gaming have Have disappointed a little bit. So it feels like I get it on paper. Apple says we'll make an App Store for Apple TV Let's say they do that and and App Store is full of games So we're going to make it easy to port those games over to Apple TV boom You've got a game console with a big title of games But that was the theory behind the oh, yeah, and the Android consoles and it didn't really play out So I'm not sure if it changes things with Apple except that the Apple TV has another purpose already Which is to watch video which it does very well I really want to see how well this Bluetooth controller situation works out for for effective gaming especially with if they have any kind of First-person shooters or things like that. I mean for with the steering wheel for the racing game It has to be pretty pretty, you know One-to-one kind of motion to it can be done happening It can be done totally can be there's tons of Bluetooth controllers, but I just yeah, it feels almost Yeah, I don't know we'll say I'll have to get some hands-on time with it eventually if it in fact exists Although Mark German has a good record. So I think it's likely The Competition Commission of India has filed a report accusing Google of abusing its dominant position in that market to rig Search results according to the economic times the charges come after complaints from Bahraat matrimony Consumer unity and trust society flipkart, which is a huge e-commerce in India Facebook. You've heard of them They're a big social network Microsoft they make software and others the Commission accuses Google of unfairly prioritizing proprietary content and even paid links Which is the part of the complaint that I quite don't quite understand They're like if you pay more your links show up more. I'm like, isn't that the way it's supposed to work? Anyway, if found guilty the CCI can find Google up to 10% of its income Which is to be billions of dollars and also pursue its executives individually in court Google has until September 10th to file its response So not just like Europe India also not just Europe now is what I meant to say India also going after Google for abusing a dominant market position and Again Google in India has a 90 plus percentage market share of search Which is why they can say, you know what when you do do these things. It's not just your own site You're basically changing search for everyone in India Well, I think we had a little a little hiccup in our connection there. Oh, are you back Veronica? Yeah, you froze on my end too I hear you now so go ahead and for the audio recording start over with the Reuters report Okay, Reuters reports that Ashley Madison says it is still signing up new users despite hacker leaks Wow parent company avid life media has said hundreds of thousands of people signed up in the last week including 87,596 women a statement from the company said quote recent media reports predicting the imminent demise of Ashley Madison are greatly exaggerated despite having our business and customers. That's tact. We are growing So I'm among those people who was saying like, oh, I don't know if they can survive this But apparently if they're if they're telling the truth It's been that example of there's no such thing as bad publicity. I guess I was really hoping you were saying I'm guilty of signing up Yeah There's been more discussion over on gizmodo that some of the early reports of the ratio of men to women were Incorrect that there were more women on the site But there were actually more bots and they initially thought as well. So still not looking great for them I'm amazed people are still signing up. They haven't really done anything to prove that their security is going to get any better So why would you put yourself out there like that? Well, if you're willing to risk getting caught cheating on your spouse, maybe you're just a risk taker Okay Now that they've been hacked there's less of a chance of them getting hacked in the future, right? Maybe that's how things work Yeah, no In gadget reports on a video from clubek comm in which a marketing director from Sony said the upcoming Sony Xperia Z5 phone Will be the first smartphone with a 4k screen He said the company will release both a 5.2 inch c5 and a 5.5 inch c5 premium phone Video has since been pulled down from YouTube because of a copyright claim Sure, I'm sure it was a copyright claim I want to know more about whether this is really a copyright claim because I have a big problem with the way copyright claims are used Obviously, I've you've heard me talk about that before but also why marketing director were you out there saying these things? Maybe it just wasn't supposed to be published yet, and he assumed it was under embargo, but anyway If only you had a wife that worked for for YouTube that would be Way for you to make those is that a are you okay? My wife works for YouTube. She does not work in the department that can do anything about content ID And I'll be honest. He's kind of tired of hearing me complain about it I'm sure you know what's funny about a lot of these stories that we've been talking about today is the fact that Being part of Google's legal team is either the best job or the worst job Jobs gotta be a hard job no matter what yeah, but either you like that kind of thing or you're it's a living nightmare Tech crunch reports on the introduction of the LG watch urbane lux with 23 karat gold plating and an alligator leather strap LG will make 500 of these watches at $1,500 each The urbane lux is produced in partnership with Reed's jewelers and will be showcased at Eva in Berlin this week. I Have no response That's very Luxe. I know Conceptually that there are people for which $1,200 is not a lot of money. I am not one of those people So I get that maybe like oh I want a gold watch. Yeah at $1,200 not that much for a 23 karat gold watch $1,500 $1,500 still same point right But for something that you know is going to be out of date in two years Okay. Well, at least they got in on the Be able to work with iOS LG watch urbane is one of those there you go. So it makes it totally worth it now You've changed my mind. I'll be buying you this afternoon. Hey, it's crackdown time T-Mobile USA CEO John Legere wrote an open letter to customers who abuse unlimited data He is very hard on people He doesn't like and in this case it's some of his own customers T-Mobile offers 7 gigabytes of tethered data a month to users Who sign up for the unlimited data plan basically? It says you can use much as you want on your phone But when you're tethering it we're gonna limit Legere says certain users are purposefully hiding their tethering activity by hacking their phones or jail breaking With something that he says they're using up to two terabytes of additional tethering data T-Mobile has identified 3,000 users that might lose their unlimited data plans if they don't change that behavior Thanks to SP shared and and digs a lot for the submission on the subreddit for this one It is kind of a difficult dance for John Legere, isn't it to say I'm on the side of the user I'm the uncarrier. Oh, wait a minute My engineers tell us that we're getting some congestion problems at certain access points because of people who have tethered Their phones to their entire computer system. We have to stop Some day I'm terrified AT&T is gonna come for me after being grandfathered into their unlimited data plan from like eight years ago Or something. I don't abuse it at that badly, but that is losing that would be a deeply sad thing for me But hey, they are there and are they breaking the law probably not like I don't know what the ins and outs of their Breaking terms of service because it says they're acting if you're tethered You can only get seven gigabytes and if they're jail breaking or or unlocking or whatever to get around that then that's a problem Yeah, fair enough. I will say though This is a sign of t-mobile's popularity that they're having to deal with this much They should be happy having this kind of problem. They should be thrilled People are using their service According to the next web, Sony has a new smartwatch with a dumb display the When a wrist when a stands for wear electronics naturally it may be wiena I want to hope it's when a has a traditional watch face with a smart band that lets users track their activities make NFC payments and receive Notifications from their iOS phones through vibration of LED alert light Sony says the smart band will last a week on a single charge. The base model will cost roughly $287 with a premium black chronograph going for $576 the when a wrist will go on sale next March and is being funded on Sony's internal crowdfunding platform First flight which I did not know existed until today Yeah, they've been doing some really interesting things on first flight where they say we think this product will be good But let's ensure some pre-orders by crowd funding it and to get around Restrictions that Kickstarter and Indiegogo put in place. They've just been running it themselves and it's very popular in Japan To go and back Sony on something They love they love Sony That is the only market, I think they could do it probably I don't know if they could roll this out anywhere else Tremolo key on our subreddit pointed out a hackaday article noting that a proposed rule from the US FCC meant to secure wireless routers could prevent third-party router software like DDWRT for example The proposed rule requires five gigahertz radios in routers To allow only properly authenticated software to run now the idea is to prevent people from Overmodulating and using higher power than the FCC allows hackaday points out that since those radio chips are often part of a system On a chip that includes the CPU this could have an unintended effect of banning open source firmware So before you freak out if you're in if you're concerned by this if you're an open source router Firmware user or someone who believes you should have the right to modify your router software Go to the FCC's open internet comments and tell her I'm not open internet They're the comments for this router Restriction proposal because it's a proposed rule and tell them what you think get them to change the language So that it doesn't affect open source routers It is possible for enough people to do that if enough people respond. Oh, that's that's nerve-wracking for sure That's I've been a big proponent of DDWRT for a long time That's that's scary and it should be it they should be able to write the regulation to say as long as you know As long as the radio is not affected by the rewrite the software should be okay, okay? Fortune reports that Qualcomm's next-generation Snapdragon 820 processor will use Xeroth neural networking technology to adapt to and Detect security threats on phones Snapdragon smart protect as the product will be called will use machine learning combined with information shared by security software makers through an API Qualcomm expects consumer devices with the technology to be on the market next year. That's cool Yeah, I'm curious how well this is gonna work It definitely is gonna be good for Qualcomm in encouraging device makers to use the Snapdragon which a lot of devices use the Snapdragon but you know Samsung stopped using it They so they're they're definitely trying to make sure they don't lose market share. I wonder I Wonder how well it's gonna work because I'm skeptical But at the same time there was there've been some articles recently about enterprise level security dropping antivirus Because they're using this kind of machine learning to protect their networks because it's more effective than just running antivirus on people's desktops That makes a lot of sense. Yeah and Finally Apple and Cisco announced a strategic partnership to optimize how networking gear works with iOS devices as well as Collaborate on products and services large companies and governments spent 49 billion dollars with Cisco in its last fiscal year and Apple'd like to get a little cut of that So you can imagine why they would want to be involved with Cisco. It's a big partnership. Hey guys. Hey Hey, can we get in on that? Can we get in on that action? Cisco's just like rolling it out. Apple wants to be involved and Cisco wants to be involved With Apple because Apple is making inroads into enterprise. They have a deal with IBM To co-market products and roll out there as well. So yeah, the Apple is becoming Enterprise-level provider of phones and tablets and and like a sweet very sweet of them to get together like that Yeah, hey, thanks to everybody who submits stories on our subreddit. I'm changing I'm trying changing up how we do this and just not separate The stories from the subreddit from the rest of the headlines just kind of acknowledge a couple as as we go along So please get in there and vote daily tech news show dot reddit dot com Let us know what stories you'd like us to cover and that At the headlines And in those headlines Veronica, we had a whole lot of smartwatches because apparently that's the big theme going into EFA the trade show That's happening in in Berlin later this week Sony crowdfunding a smartwatch that doesn't have a digital face Trying to say like well a lot of people don't want that digital face We can make it look prettier, but still provide some of those features. You've got Android. We're working with iOS It's a limited feature set it can't do everything it can do on Android because iOS doesn't allow that level of access But they think they can provide enough that it will be compelling to people and it seems like from all of these stories Notifications some kind of proactive alerts like Google now or or what series going to do in iOS 9 payment possibilities a voice search and activity tracking or fitness tracking Mm-hmm seem though those seem to be the the commonalities that people are saying I would like a watch for those reasons What are we missing? That's a very good question. It's You know, I'm still I we I feel like every time I come on this show we talk about the Apple Watch because it's something We have both used regularly. It's definitely become a huge part of my life so much So in fact that my Tan line is enormous right now because I just I wear it constantly. I've got Apple Watch tan you have an Apple Watch White spot. Yeah, totally But you know, I love the idea that that Android devices will be able to to work now Maybe not on that deep level that the Apple Watch does with iOS But at least it works very strongly with the Google apps that are installed on iOS So anything calendar related anything having to do with email It's still gonna open up in like a separate little thing But at the same time you're if you're really tied into the the Google ecosystem That's gonna be great for you. It'll probably do I would imagine a better job than then the Apple Watch does for a lot of those features I you know The problem for me right now is is fitness tracking because so many of the fitness trackers either Especially Fitbit, which is the one that I've been embedded with for the past three or four years Doesn't work very nicely with Apple Watch. You have to kind of do workarounds with third-party software like What is it called? Sync smart sync or something like that There are basically other applications that you install that allow you to overwrite the Apple Watch step data and Replace that with Fitbit data if you're more comfortable using those metrics instead So there's a lot of workarounds that people are doing But I wish all of that was more seamless right now and maybe we're moving towards that But right now there's still a lot of Problems in those areas. Yeah, and I found that The month that I wore an Apple Watch Notifications certainly no there was no payment situation that I ran into None of this stuff was compelling enough to make me want to keep wearing the watch So we asked people on our subreddit What aren't we getting from smart watches? We had a few people saying hey, I have a pebble and I get everything I want And I think there is a bit of a selection bias there Which is people who buy watches and still wear and them are getting what they wanted from them that makes sense, right? Otherwise you wouldn't still be wearing them, but some people said Other things that they wish they would have and the number one was make it work without a phone Sure, I agree anymore having used the Apple Watch because I was my phone with me anyway I didn't really notice situations or like oh, I have to go get my phone now But that seems to be what most people are like I want to be able to buy the watch and not have to Worry about my phone and that would solve the compatibility issue. I suppose Yeah, I'm I'm that's that's still probably actually my number one feature request is being able to to use the watch without having my phone in range Because for for fitness, I mean you really I don't have a good way to carry my phone around I don't like using those arm bands I'd rather just leave it at home or leave it in my workout bag and continue being able to to use the other features I mean, I know it'll still continue to track steps and that kind of thing But I wanted to be able to work as a I want my email to come up if I if I wanted to I want You know other data one be able to check in on swarm at my gym and not have my phone on me And that's that kind of coming on in time The one thing that I didn't like was that wearing the watch ran down my phone's battery I would like that to not happen. Did you get experience that a lot? I haven't really noticed that Some and I continue to wear it. Yeah, it definitely caught my phone's battery life Not drastically for me, but Jenny our producer. She was running into big problems with it Well, I think you know I spent so much of my day with my phone plugged in at the desk or plugged into the car that I Didn't really bother me so much But I can see if you're out and about all day that it would definitely be a drain in that regard The other responses that we got were key replacement Both hotels and cars Troy from New York was mentioning that and I think that is one of those things It can absolutely do already and in fact There are some hotels already that will allow certain watches like the Apple watch to serve as your room key But that needs to become more widespread and that that could potentially become a killer app Some other people were mentioning health diagnostics Burke 80 was mentioning that teaglass Mentioned glucose monitoring just just higher level health monitoring than just fitness tracking Some people recommended better navigation, of course battery life is a limiting factor bio cab was just mentioned in that In the chat room right now if the watch is on its own it has to have its own data connection And suddenly the battery is going to take a big hit. I think if wearables whether they be watches or little trackers are going to Expand and become more widespread They would have to have a number of these things come together You'd have to start seeing the benefit to your life in general to wearing them Which is what phones have done where we realize oh There's so many apps that I can do these different things like navigation like email in addition to making calls And and and here's the here's the thing what I come down to a phone how to use already I could text and make calls and then the smartphone made it even better. The watch has a thing it can do time It's not that compelling a lot of people don't even wear a watch because they don't care about the time that much Or they use their phone So you really have a bigger step to make to say and the watch can do these other things for you Yeah Well for me now though the biggest issue is actually carrying around the phone because it's a giant freaking phone And it doesn't fit in my pocket So if I just want to go for a walk I have to bring a bag with me And I would like to just slap on the watch and go about my life and Basically have this be my communication device for the day if I wanted it to be I'm really excited for the Android wear stuff just because the amount of different devices that are available And the different kinds of looks that you can have they tend to be I believe they tend to be on the cheaper side Comparatively speaking or not at least not as expensive as the Apple watch unless you're going for the luxe You're not buying the gold one you're right So I like that the idea that you could swap them out more easily if you had a couple of different Android watches And they were all synced up to the same device You know you get back to that those days where you had a different watch for a different outfit Or maybe you had a special watch for special occasions or like a workout watch for going on hikes It opens up a lot of new opportunities when you have Many different kinds of watches to choose from and you're not just swapping bands or swapping, you know We don't have a ton of third-party options available yet for the Apple watch which which may change a lot of that I'm looking forward to a magic leap type device that will just like unobtrusively Be right here on my face like right next to my eye and everything that I would want to watch to do It was just beam it right into my eye So I don't have to wear anything and nobody could tell I have it on So you want you want the Warby Parker Google Glass? No, I don't want to set of glasses just a real small little thing just beams it right into my eyes It's like in your embedded in your in your forehead. Mm-hmm. Okay, or yeah Maybe right here in the in the in the cranial bone the occipital lobe Yeah, I'm interviewing someone who has something similar. I can't give away any spoilers on that in the near future So hopefully more on that soon for and for Other things Well, we'll get to the bottom of this. Hey our pick of the day Let's switch to that Rolando has picks for people who want to manage picture photo metadata on Windows Rolando seems to think that on Mac. It's all taken care of by iPhoto But if you're using Windows he recommends bulk rename utility allowing you to modify the name of a set of files in more ways than you Can possibly imagine all at once attribute magic pro Allowing you to modify the files attributes in bulk like the date that it was modified or the picture taken date That sounds pretty useful and Geo setter allowing you to correct GPS coordinates individually or in bulk So check those out bru am pro and G o set her G E O S E T T E R We'll have those names in the show notes as well Thanks for the pick Rolando and you can send your picks to feedback at daily tech news show comm and find my picks at daily tech News show comm slash picks got some messages here Russell said on Friday show you were discussing the possible uses of virtual reality and you mentioned home depot Using it to visualize remodel projects We've been using it to walk clients through designs for commercial office space And it has been a very successful tool for that purpose one of the most difficult aspects of our work is to get people who do not normally look at drawings to understand how a Space will look and feel and this tool has allowed the decision-making and design approval process to improve a great deal They also find it really fun. There's a link below to our blog post about it at interior architects.com We'll include that in the show notes as well. I I love I love this like Idea of virtual reality so divorced from what we think oh it must be entertainment It must be gaming and the architects are like do just like having people understand what we're gonna do to their office space or to their Home, that's amazing. I tried doing stuff similar to that in in Google sketch When we were when we were moving into our new house because we wanted to figure out how the furniture would fit Yeah, it was just a lot of work So yeah, they made me think of the old days when I was using CAD for that kind of stuff or like, you know Things of that nature like old video. Yeah old school tools like that back when I was in high school And we were in like tech class tech ed But I love I love the more consumer-facing products like that nowadays I'll be honest when we moved into this space. It was two and a half years ago. I used graph paper And yes, you know went full-on old-school on it Chris noticed when he set up Google music's adapt sound with his note 5 on stock headphones that it made a lot of Adjustments and he found that odd because usually he can hear tones other can't he's got really good hearing and he wondered why it was Acting as if he had bad hearing so he said as soon as I got home I went through the adapt sound set up again But this time I used a set of Westone w60 headphones and this time Adapt sound gave me a very high rating and didn't seem to make any adjustments So he's gonna use this to prove to his wife and others that quality headphones do make a difference. Oh Good That's always nice to have. Yeah, so I hadn't thought about that Yeah as a way to prove your headphone value and then Eddie from man It is really time for all fall to get here already Austin, Texas Says on Friday show you got an email about using voice activated phrases on the show someone complaining that we were setting off things with Glee and Eddie says this always makes me giggle But that's probably because I get more amusement out of people's annoyances than I should anyway I wanted to write in and let you know that enabling Siri I have had shows on Netflix and books played on audible mistakenly Happen due to a phrase that roughly resembles the trigger phrase the most noticeable one was when someone on Netflix I was watching said they Seriously and it activated Siri So I agree there needs to be improvement across the board But until then my inner 12 year old will snicker every time I hear a trigger phrase spoken That was happening to me all the time when I was listening to audiobooks in the car It would it would constantly trigger Siri and it'd be crazy because I'd be like oh And I'd have to like turn her off and like start over again, and it was a big pain in the butt So yeah, they need a little improvement would go a long way there. Yeah, some there's there's some voice training I know that you can do with Android where you can say, you know learn my voice and only respond to that There needs to be more of that kind of stuff. Mm-hmm. Well, that is it for this episode of the Daily Tech news show Thank you folks for watching. Thank you Veronica Belmont. Of course. Thank you for having me as usual and I Won't pester you to tell me about secret projects But what about your own secret projects that people can go and look at and enjoy? I'm really excited about dear Veronica my weekly show on Engadget every Wednesday We take questions about technology social media etiquette fashion Literally anything at this point. We've answered questions about dogs. We've answered questions about meditation. We've answered questions about geocaching It's all fun. It's all good. So send in your questions to Veronica at Engadget.com or on Twitter using the hashtag dear Veronica Last week's episode was particularly good. 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Yeah Google legal for life I liked there was another Google legal one that I thought was really funny Whenna or loser, I think I thought it was funny too We have a whenna we have a whenna I guess it was just a Google one that was Google Google legal for life that I liked Yeah, I kind of thought that was funny I'm not saying that I want that enter the snapdragon is definitely the best No, I and and I'm heartened that the voting had already put it on top because it is objectively the superior entry in In the history of technical show title But it is definitely up there Wow, that's that's high praise. Yeah, it's super high praise Belongs in the upper echelon of submitted titles Yeah, so he's big and so he's big in Japan. I didn't even think about it as being like kind of an insult. Oh Yeah, I didn't think about that way either. Well, you know, Sony, you're pretty good Japan. Yeah That's the whole joke of the thing is like it's big in Japan Yeah, which this which is no longer like a true statement really because now if it's big in Japan It just means two years later. It'll be big here. Yeah, that's the other problem is big in Japan actually is pretty pretty big Yeah, I like their food. I like everything Move to Japan. I would love to you should My I mean, I don't speak Japanese. So that would be difficult How what better to learn sure? Yeah, also consider it as the weighted down size Mmm hotels are bigger than their apartments. Yeah, that's true. That's true I'm making an edit. I never do this. Oh Making a collection on product hunt the audio listeners will never know It just sounds like Veronica picked up the ball right right after I finished my headline, there's like boom boom boom Oh good with the edit. Yeah Good times good times. I've seen Tokyo drift and everyone in Japan seems to speak English Yeah, except like two of the actors are Korean ironically enough. Yeah, that was that was that was the other The other although there are Korean Japanese Although for historical and social reasons, they don't acknowledge it Get a magazine that was tired titled foreigner crime that's sold in like 7-Elevens Yeah, I want to go over and get tendon from Mitsuha Marketplace The fried egg the tempura batter then you break it rice what? How does that even done they just drop it how do you do that? I don't even know how they do it But it's amazing It's the technological marvel Like it's an egg. That's already been cracked. It's like a almost like a poached egg that is then battered Okay, okay soft boiled it is It is for the win So I'm pretty excited about Dragon Con I'm looking forward to it. I've done it enough that I'm not worried that I'm not prepared I'm not usually I'm kind of panicked about it, but now I'm just like all right. Yeah, I got I got stuff to do Yeah I'm yeah, I'm not nervous about anything except for the Sherlock versus elementary panel Right, that's like different than what you normally do right yeah outside of my normal track And I apparently I'm supposed to be a speaking for elementary which is great because I love that show But I really love Sherlock, so I think oh, no You have to play devil's advocate Yeah, so I gotta I gotta like either rewatch some things, but I also have to prep for this talk I'm getting the week after Like make I have to make like a ton of slides What is your talk that we get there's I Can't talk about it assigned talk you don't know I know okay. I can talk about that. I can't say where where the talk is happening No, it's they just want a personal story that would be interesting to that crowd So it's pretty pretty broad. Yeah, it can be pretty much about anything, but they say personal stories do much better Personal the better I Try to make a lot more general and news oriented and they're like, okay That's good, but really make it about yourself and then the newsy stuff would be second place incidental Yeah, like stuff we've talked about in this show about like right to be forgotten and Stuff like that Yeah, we'll see It'll be interesting It'll be fun. Mm-hmm You'll get to see and hear things Yes, I Want to say particular things, but then that would give it away. It's okay There'll be sky and ground. Yeah, and humans human beings of particular types. Yeah with names Kind of wish I was at PAX be honest I'm okay with not being at PAX Well, the fact that it's not the same weekend as dragon con makes me want to go the fact that it's still this weekend before dragon Con makes me glad that I didn't Oops the only thing I regret not about going about PAX this year is missing out on the The marketing campaign for the fury road game. Oh, yeah, you could uber out, right? That's pretty cool. That was pretty awesome What if I'm not even up to date on elementary shoot Oh, you might be like there might be a couple episodes. It's good reason to watch some episodes But I don't have time to watch any episodes. I have to prepare this talk There's no time for anything and also I like really want to start working or thinking about the anthology 2.0 Okay, yeah, I've gotten really inspired on that especially with the the ink share stuff. Yeah, that'll actually help I think yeah quite a bit So Yeah, we'll see I'm thinking about doing a book on ink shares Okay It's frightening to think of but no, I think it's good though Okay, well because the way I've always approached books was like hey, I wrote this. I like it. I like it well enough I don't care if you like it or not if you do that's awesome. Whereas if you go in ink shares, it's like Judge me Yeah Well, I think it'll be okay. I think it'll be fun. I think it'll be okay. I Don't know whether to do the book that's ready because I have a book that I've been waiting for my friend who's an editor to get time To look at or do I take it away from her and give it to ink shares? Hey, what's a thing question do does it copy edit? Among other things Like edit at it. Mm-hmm I'm cover art and blurbs and marketing Well, yeah, but how about like working with you the way a freelance editor would just shape a book and make it good Like do they go to that level? No Right Veronica What yeah say it again. I was doing something They they do how much how much editing do they do? I know they do some. Oh, yeah They have you go through they haven't they have editors. I believe like I know the One of the books that were where isn't our collection is going through the edit process right now So I need to find out what levels of editing, but I know it's you work with an editor on your book for sure Mm-hmm, and JF said he really enjoyed that Yeah looking it up. It's pretty good Did you have to share your ideas before they're published? Mm-hmm. Yes, you do It's like Kickstarter Did you get um, did you get a copy of the dark forest sent to you? Nope, not that I know you know not yet. All right. I am out of the post And we are off To the races So thanks everybody for watching. We'll talk to you later