 One of the things that I want to leave you with before we part ways today is I was reading and I can't remember exactly where I read that app but it says if you want help from someone you ask for advice and again a lot of people like to talk about themselves. If you wanted to reach out to someone a good strategy a good idea is to talk to someone who already graduated from the 8A program. Several of my past guests have reached out to former 8A graduates whether they be good or bad I mean they don't have to necessarily have been such a wild success like Cecil and the organization that he took over but again you can learn from people's failures as well as people's successes so one of the things I like to leave you with is definitely if you are at the very least if you're thinking about 8A you've heard about 8A or even government contracting for that part talk to people who've already been there done that we have the experience and then learn and gain insight and take that and apply it to your business and your methodology and it's part of your strategy moving forward of what things to do and versus things also not to do.