 Former Governor of Kano State Senator Rabiu Kwankwaso, Buber Galadima, Senator Hong Kui and others are reportedly getting set to join the New Nigeria People's Party NPP. And security operatives take over Koshiba State House of Assembly after the court had sacked 20 of its lawmakers. This is Plus Politics. I am Mary Anacoff. A former governor of Kano State Senator Rabiu Kwankwaso was allegedly tidying up to defect from the People's Democratic Party PDP to the New Nigeria People's Party NPP. It was gathered that Alhaji Buber Galadima made the disclosure while speaking on an online television channel of the party NNPP TV. Now parts of the discussion revealed some other groups have collapsed their entire structures into the NPP in preparation to receive Senator Kwankwaso officially into the party. We're joining us to discuss this is John C. Ifemeje. He is the national chairman, New Nigeria People's Party NPP. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you. All right, great. Let's start by... We're glad to have you. Let's start by looking at Mr. Galadima's claim that the party is going to have a lot of other structures collapse into the NPP in preparation to receive former governor of Kano State. Is this true about the NPP? That is... What is happening today? Absolutely, what is happening today? Okay. Can you hear me? I said that. Oh, this is true. So the NPP is getting ready to receive the former governor of Kano State. But then the former governor has not said anything as regards his leaving the party. The PDP has also not said anything as regards his leaving the party. Why exactly do you think that he's chosen your party if this be anything that we should go by? Well, what I'm saying... Hopefully, going soon, when we hear the... ...exemplation coming out, we think we should join more normal party NPP. And we are looking for him to be clear to join our party as a full member of the party. And I would like to share with you about the work that we are doing in Brazil and receiving a lot of important questions in the party. Why do you think that Mr. Kwankosu is actually interested in your party? And why didn't he join... declare his interest to join the party to help build the structure until now? Well, we have been talking and we know that hopefully he will join us very soon if we have something important. Try to encourage him to come over to NPP. Because as you all know, NPP is a touch point that will bring me a share in... ...the dividend of the NPP. And I think that is the one that I tried just last week when I'm talking. Because of the nature of the people that are in NPP, they are all progressing. And the people that come to NPP are going to pass it. Like everyone can do now. And we hope to receive him. Well, he can come and join us as well. But for now, we are hoping that we will be able to receive him by our hands wide open. Before now, the NPP... the NPP has not necessarily been a huge party. It was a huge platform. And so I'm guessing that for you having Senator Kwankosu, this will be a good thing for you. But let's talk about the parties that Mr. Gubagaladima has spoken of who might be collapsing their structures into the NNPP. Now, if you've been closely watching what's been happening in Adho State, the same issue of collapsing structures into another party, just as the deputy governor has said that they brought their structure from the party that they left into the PDP. And now the party is having problems. How do you guard against newcomers taking over the structure that you have already built that has already existed? Would you be okay with that? I don't think we are better than you from our family to our party. Because anybody that wants to join us will be free. We'll see an early move from my time. But I guess we're all coming up our heads. We'll look at that. We've got workers. And I'm going to turn everything to anybody to join. If you join the party, you are just like any other member of the party. And how do you think that those who have been how do you think about how do you think that those who have been with the NNPP through thick and thin would feel about those who are just coming into the party and the change that might happen within the structure in the party. That is if you're going to do anything about the structure of the party. We do not need to answer this question. But I'm guessing that if you're having high-powered men like Buber Galadima and Senegal Conquestor within the party, there has to be a re-jigging of the structure of the party to accommodate these people. So I'm asking again, how are you going to deal with the sentiments of those who have been there before them? The party has a number of sources that are coming together. Anybody in the last meeting and we are not sure that we are going to deal with this. But what we look at is the person who did it passed the program and what we're doing is telling we are the person who can teach you. Let me go to what Mr. Buber Galadima had said on that live interview. I'd like to coach him directly. He said in our search of a political platform for the national movement, we spoke with five political parties. It is only New Nigeria People's Party that the constitution and manifesto arrived with the inevitable conclusion which cannot be controverted. That the New Nigeria People's Party is the garden party for the achievement of the ideology of the TNM which is the ideology of the New Nigeria that every patrotic citizen should be part of. So I'm going to ask you what's the NPP about and what exactly is your goal for 2023? We've never really heard about the NNPP as much as we're hearing about it now. What do you intend what's the end goal for you at the end of the day? Do you think that you can produce a president that would resonate with the average Nigerian? As you we all know the nation of the nation of movement and the old people were in the NNPP and the growth of the NNP coming from the back of state and the national movement and the NNP have the same own kind of NNPs, very similar and that's what we decided to do for NNP for all to use it as a platform to go for any elected NNP and the purpose of us at the Nigerians to support our party and what were you going to do then? We want to bring back peace to this country and show people the existence of foreign Nigeria because there has been a lot of problems between the open nationality that are in Nigeria but a lot of people need to restore peace in the country and be able to recognize all the rights of the Nigerians in Nigeria and give hope to the region and the unapproachable so that they can achieve their aspirations and there are so many things that need to be done for NNP NNP will do better than that accountability, transparency equity, planning and justice presently we know that a lot of things do not really exist in the country NNP will promote the contact and create a communication accommodation and much more without the people who are drive the place of NNP in Nigeria for the month NNP will create a pool of non-regional professional that will assist the economy in the political emancipation of the country and for them our idea to promote the needs of non-regional and non-regional of the country we also think to work with the masses of the country so as to how they can achieve their political emancipation I see but I want to be a bit more practical with you on this issue I see that you are trying to read out your manifesto but just hold on I want to find out how deeply rooted is the NNPP within local governments state I am asking this because the average person who is watching now wants to know has the NNPC ever want to sit whether it be at the local level the state level or the national level and what makes you think that you have a shot in 2023 I mean it's a great thing to have big shots within the party but what is your reach you know the situation in NNPP in in 2013 and 2020 so what has changed what has changed is that all the elements of the national movement and all the other groups in Nigeria are members of the NNPP we have a spending a lot of money a lot of money a lot of money a lot of money a lot of money so the NNPC's chances of winning anything whatsoever or even making any or making any stride is based on these people who may or may not join your party and what do you think you can achieve in the space of the few months we have before 2023 I mean you know it's not magic it's the groundwork we need a driver we need to look at the way we converted the previous congress we have already converted the the work congress we look at the work congress and the state of Nigeria a lot of people who are members of the party in every NNPC and they came out for minutes for the work congress and the local government and the state congress without problem and I encourage you you see that people that came from all these congresses I want to say you are a national convention NNPC is really the third term the reason why I ask that question is because you're trying to say you want to bring something new to Nigerians you do not know you so if I were to take a poll today let's say for example a local government in Lagos and I asked a few people if they knew what the NNPP was what do you think the response would be how many people out of 100 would know the NNPP since you say you've got some structures in the Republic of Nigeria we have members they are all in the country and they are working and hopefully they will be involved so you remember we now have structures in the ground and in the south we also have structures in the south side and they present me in the local part of the country we are both in NNPP thank you interesting I'm going to ask one last question before I let you go a lot of people in certain quarters are saying the reason why the senator might be leaving the PDP is so that he can pick up a presidential ticket with the NNPP is that what you are going to be giving the senator when he joins your party and what's to guarantee you that if you give him a ticket you might get a chance at that seat on Aso Rock of course he has ambition and he is a Nigerian and he wants to join us we are denying him the ticket because he is a Nigerian he is going to tell him to qualify for the ticket and help him so in that case I am going to contest and whoever wants to take the ticket to this country he wants to give him the ticket what about the issue of zoning what about the issue of zoning where is the NNPP on that don't forget that there are those who are agitating for zoning to the south of the country all NNPP talks about the Nigeria and we all know the Nigeria we all know the Nigeria we all know the Nigeria whoever wants to travel I would go to any office who is allowed to go to the contest he is a democrat everything we are doing to be democratic so if a common person wants to join us we are certainly going to go to any office just like any other person he wants to go to that office he has the right to do it for the office in a democratic country we don't try to make money we take our thoughts as Nigeria and we make peace I would want to say you don't say people want their personal privacy what do you want me to say you know for the best the best person that can fly is the flag of the NNPP and then they can be free at the national election okay finally when I was asking about Cherish you talked about young people and I quickly want to ask how do you intend to get the young people of Nigeria to be aware of your party to understand what your party manifesto is and what your plans are for 2023 yes you said you had your ward congresses and all of that but then what is your party doing in terms of virtual education like I said if I were to ask a few people about the NNPP what would be the response so what is the work that you are doing what kind of organization that are members of NNPP and we thought we would bring the focus here and then from the national movement so many youth organizations are members of NNPP and there will be two opportunities to run for NNPP on the outside just for any other person and you can agree to be members of NNPP and then we will continue to direct to well yes I can hear you so many youth organizations are members of NNPP so many of them and whatever is the framework of them we are advertising to NNPP and that we are carrying them along and also showing the the many opportunities we have so many opportunities okay all right well I want to say thank you we have been speaking with John C. Efemeje and he is the national chairman of the new Nigeria People's Party thank you so much for speaking with us we appreciate it all right well thank you all for staying with us we will take a short break now when we return we will discuss cross river state politics as 18 lawmakers from the state have been sat by other courts stay with us