 This is the SF Productions podcast network I mean he's where you get an award you get an award and you get an award and you get an award From the Bob culture bunker. I'm Mindy and I'm mark you can check out our audio podcast How I got my wife three comics on iTunes or our website SF podcast network calm So the Emmy nominations are out. Yep the television Academy keeps trying to tweak the award categories Generally to the detriment of the show, you know, I don't know even what the point of tweaking them is You know, they need to tweak the voters of anything That's the issue because they can't tweak the voters directly. They're like, let's go to them into doing what we want them to do So the comedy and drama show nominees went up to seven each sort of a reflection of the Oscars going up to ten right and because there's so much more on the air now So they've now Arbitrarily decided that a comedy show is 30 minutes or less and a drama is over 30 minutes And that's just not right which screws over shows like Jane the Virgin who by the way got virtually nothing a show can argue to get into the other category they can put up a case to the academy and See if they can get moved from one to the other They're not calling them mini series anymore They're calling them limited series and the rule is we're limited series at least 150 minutes a complete non-recurring story No ongoing story or characters in later seasons. Okay, which seems basically like they said it to say yes shows like American Horror Story and true detective Can fit in that. Yes You have to appear in at least 50% of the episode in less than 50% of the episodes to be a guest actor, okay There's now separate prosthetic and non-prosthetic makeup categories as well as separate period slash fantasy and Contemporary costume categories. Well, otherwise the period fantasy is always gonna win. Yeah there's also an Outstanding special visual effects in a supporting role Which seems odd There is already outstanding special visual effects. Yes as a separate category But how does it operate in a supporting role? We don't know. Ah Now there are of course also unofficial rules You can pretty much use to predict who's gonna win. Mm-hmm There's a split vote. So if there's two people from the same series or property nominated They're likely to split the vote and not win. There is the dead zone if you've died And there's the final season lock Yes So if you're not gonna be eligible again, and you haven't won before it's likely you're gonna win So let's take a look at some of the categories and the nominees beginning with outstanding variety talk series And here's where one of those rules kicks in right so our nominees are the Colbert report Daily show with John Stewart Jimmy Kimmel live Last week tonight with John Oliver, which I do love but I don't think belongs in the variety talk series No much. I mean because it's only once a week, right late show with David Letterman and the tonight show starring Jimmy Fallon Right, and we both predict that David Letterman will take the award because you're going with the last season lock rule And even though the Colbert report is not gonna be on again He has another show and we'll be in the talk show again in just and daily show Just squeaks over to next year. Yes, so he can get his last season lock win next year Outstanding TV movie We have Agatha Christie's pro Bessie grace of Monaco. Hello ladies the movie killing Jesus and nightingale And we both seem to have picked the HBO movies. You picked Bessie. I picked nightingale And I don't think it makes any difference here. I don't even know if this is a relevant category anymore Yeah, because considering that two of the the nominees Agatha Christie's pro and killing Jesus come to you respectively from acorn TV Acorn TV only does British television shows. It's sort of like a Netflix for British TV. Okay, and Nat Geo Yeah How is Nat Geo coming up with best TV movies, right? And then then there's a nominee from Lifetime and the rest are from HBO So there's no network television at all. No, which is you see that a lot in the Emmys now And I just don't think that's a relevant category, right? We then have outstanding animated program, which is part of the creative arts awards aka the kids table. Yes When we start with Archer Bob's burgers over the Garden Wall South Park and the Simpsons the Simpsons will never win again No, no, it's gonna be a perennial nominee, but it will never win again. Exactly. I think it may be Bob's burgers here It's been getting a lot of nice buzz, but as has your choice Archer Archer. Yeah Yeah, I think it's a toss up between one of those two. I can guarantee you South Park is never gonna win the Emmy It's just not gonna happen Outstanding character voice over performance. So this would be a voice in one of those animated shows, right? And we have Hank Azaria from the Simpsons, Don Castellanetta from the Simpsons, Seth Green from Robot Chicken, Tress McNeil from the Simpsons, and John Roberts from Bob's Burgers What voices does Tress McNeil do? I think Crazy Cat Lady. I think she does one of the teachers. I think maybe she does Miss Hoover Yeah, I think she did a special guest type role Yeah, she's not one of the major players on the show again with three nominees from the Simpsons It's unlikely that any of those people will win which Except you think Dan Castellanetta? Yeah. Yeah, I'm bucking the trend of the of the split vote on this I'm gonna stick with the Bob's Burgers, although I'd love it if Seth Green one, but that's another one that's not gonna happen Outstanding guest actor in a comedy series This is the who's the most famous and oldest rule Yes, Mel Brooks for the comedians Louis CK for Saturday Night Live Paul Giamatti for inside Amy Schumer Bill Hader for SNL John Hamm for the Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt and Bradley Whitford for Transparent I did like that John Hamm was nearly unrecognizable. Yeah part of his role. Yes on Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt I'm picking Bradley Whitford because I think Transparent has a lot of buzz in Hollywood right now I think it does but I'm going with oldest and most famous Mel Brooks Outstanding guest actress in a comedy series We have Pamela Adlin from Louie Elizabeth Banks modern family Christine Bransky Big Bang Theory Joan Cusack shameless Tina Fey Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt and Gabby Hoffman from girls. Do you think I don't know I'm thinking maybe girls has lost its luster a little bit. I think it has and in that case if it's not the girls I think it's gonna be Elizabeth Banks and that's who I picked with Elizabeth Banks You can assume right now. I think you can assume for the most part big bang theory I think the the as you notice through is there's not gonna be a lot of nominees from that show And I think that's because the the voters have decided. Oh, they're making too much money or they're making so much money They don't need awards. Yeah, I guess Outstanding supporting actor in a comedy series on Dave Andre Brower Brooklyn 9 9 Titus Burgess Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt Ty Burrell modern family Adam Driver Girls Tony Hale Veep Michael Keegan Keegan Michael Key for Key and Peele We both picked Tony Hale and Veep for winning. I just think that that show has more of a Following and he's won before and he's won before and Emmys the Emmy voters love to vote the same person over and over But I'd really love to see Brooklyn 9 9 win something as I would I no question. That is such a great show. Yes Outstanding supporting actress in a comedy series. This is a huge list My I'm be Alec big bang theory Julie Bowen modern family and a chum Chalemski Veep Gabby Hoffman transparent Allison Janney mom Jane Krakowski and breakable Kimmy Schmidt Kate McKinnon SNL Nisi Nash getting on You can kind of eliminate. I think SNL You can eliminate getting on whatever that is And so you're going with I'm again sticking with transparent. I think I'm pretty sure I think the the Academy maybe will realize that they kind of screwed over big bang theory the nominations And so they're gonna give it to me and be out except that she's got a lot of weird other things going on Tending to be like almost an anti-vaxxer and stuff. So maybe they won't give it to her for that. Okay. Yeah, you're probably right I don't know. Yeah, we'll see Outstanding lead actor in a comedy series Anthony Anderson and Black-ish Don Cheadle in House of Lies Louis CK and Louie Will Forte the last man on earth Matt LeBlanc in episodes William H. Macy and shameless and Jeffrey Tambor in transparent And we are both going with Jeffrey Tambor because the due to the political climate right now The timing is absolutely perfect for for him to win this yes, and not only that but a lot of the other Nominees are just too out there. I think you know, yeah, and you also notice That Jim Parsons nowhere to be seen after he's won several times. Yeah Outstanding lead actress in a comedy series Edie Falco nurse Jackie Lisa Kudrow the comeback Julie Dreyfus Veep Amy Poehler Parks and Rec Amy Schumer inside Amy Schumer Lily Tomlin Grace and Frankie If Amy Poehler doesn't win this There's something wrong with the Emmys exactly yeah, we're both gonna be very disappointed and that's who we're going for Mm-hmm Outstanding guest actor in a drama series Alan Alda in the blacklist F for Murray Abraham in homeland ball bridges in Masters of Sex Reg E. Kathy in House of Cards Michael J. Fox in The Good Wife and Pablo Schreiber in Orange is the new black And I went with oldest most famous Bo bridges. Well, you know that could also hold true for like F Murray Abraham. I suppose I don't know. I'm going with orange is the new black. I think it's still a little bit of a critical darling. Yeah Outstanding guest actress in a drama series candy Alexander scandal Rachel Brosnan On House of Cards Allison Janney in Masters of Sex Margot Martindale in the Americans Diana Rigg Game of Thrones Cicely Tyson how to get away with murder and you know, I'm probably Leaning that your choice Allison Janney is probably who's going to win, right? I'd really really like to see Diana ring in Game of Thrones win And I think she has a chance because a lot of the Emmy voters here, you know game of Thrones a big show somebody should win but the Emmys have traditionally said genre shows bad. Yes, but this is just guest actress Yes, you know, it's not a big category. We give it to them. Yeah now There's also the idea that Cicely Tyson who's a big name Hasn't appeared in a lot of stuff on television. That's true She could get it because sometimes they like to do that for these guest ones. That's true Outstanding supporting actor in a drama series Jonathan Banks better call Saul Jim Carter down nabby Allen coming good wife Peter Dingledge Game of Thrones Michael Kelly House of Cards Ben Mendelsohn bloodline. I can't believe you picked down to nabby Do you even know who Jim Carter plays on down? Yeah? He's the servant and he's the Okay If he was gonna well, you know, you can't really say this was not his best season Oh, I mean I can say that but you know, it's not like he hasn't been nominated for anything else, right? I'm gonna go with House of Cards Michael Kelly. Okay Outstanding supporting actress in a drama series Uso Duba from Orange is the new black Christine Baransky from The Good Wife That's her second nomination isn't it lots people repeat Amelia Clark Game of Thrones Joanne Fraggett from down to nabby Lena Hedley Game of Thrones and Christina Hendricks from Mad Men And we're both going with Mad Men last season last season lock And Mad Men for the most part has been pretty much passed over a lot by the Academy Outstanding lead actor in a drama series Kyle Chandler bloodline Jeff Daniels newsroom John Hamm Mad Men Bob Odin Kirk better call Saul leave Shriver great Donovan Kevin Spacey House of Cards Yeah, the show we they're like they make a big deal about like what show is this I'm going John Hamm Mad Men. I'm going Kevin Spacey House of Cards I you know, I just think Netflix is kind of in a way. They kind of peaked and they went back down So I think they might get a shot there Outstanding lead actress in a drama series Claire Danes homeland Viola Davis had to get away with murder to Raji P. Henson Empire Tatiana Maslani orphan black Elizabeth Moss Mad Men and Robin Wright House of Cards And I went with Claire Danes homeland because of the repeat rule she's won before and I'm going with Empire because this is really the only nomination for Empire and it did so well It started off and it kept building and building and I think that's gonna attract some people to vote for it. You may be right Outstanding comedy series Louie modern family Parks and Rec Silicon Valley Transparent unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt VIP now I said it's gonna be transparent I don't think that is the outstanding comedy series But I think that's how it'll get voted and I'm hoping that final season lock will win for Parks and Rec Yeah, I don't I'm not hopeful, but I am hoping that you know that that's gonna happen. Yes Outstanding drama series better call Saul down to nabby game of thrones Homeland House of Cards Mad Men and Orange is the new black and we both picked Mad Men we did last season last season lock You can check out our audio podcast how I got my wife treat comics on iTunes or on our website SF podcast network comm From the pop culture bunker. I'm Indy and I'm mark. Thanks for watching and enjoy the Emmys