 Welcome everyone to Megalife 21 Progressive Podcast. I'm your host James P. Madonna of Megalife 21 of course, the hardest-hitting internet talk radio station on the planet. And I'm here with my special guest. You might know him as a performing artist. You might also know him as an evangelist. But I'm going to introduce you this time to the writer Ken Creight who specializes in writing stories and screenplays involving thrillers, mysteries and the supernatural. He writes screenplays and stories related, you know similar to poetry but he has lots of screenplays already written, very deep, very mysterious. And I guess you would call them, they're very similar to I guess a cross between Alfred Hitchcock and Rod Serling's Twilight Zone, very, very similar. So very good to have you on our very first Megalife 21 Progressive Podcast show. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome Ken. All right, all right, just try to speak up. So do you remember a ballpark figure when you first wrote, like the very first story that you ever wrote that was deep? Well, I started getting into the Bible I'd say about 1982 and I'd say I'd first start writing I'd say about 1986 and they were just stories, they were just like ideas that would basically come to me as always just material that I wrote and then later on as I got older and I went back and looked at them they weren't bad but there was a lot of stuff I had to learn. Well, you definitely had the best mentors growing up, you know, watching Mysteries, watching an Alfred Hitchcock series of Twilight Zone, you definitely, you combine that with your own intuition and foresight and you're a bit of a prophet yourself. You see things that the average person does not see. You probe very deeply and between looking up to the very best talent in the industry, combining that with your decades of Bible study, it seems to give you the ability beyond the average writer, way beyond the average writer. Well, I look at basically we all have the ability to write from the more knowledge that you suck into you and the more reading you do and the more information you've learned and it all feeds into you, then I think you have the ability to write. Now, there might be people that might have to correct your writing for you to put something together. I think you have that ability because you have all this knowledge that is stored inside your brain. Oh, yeah, well, hey, the best writers and authors or whatever, they have people, professionals that edit their work and besides proofreading things and editing things, I still find typos, you know, mistakes in books. Oh, yeah, I mean, you're going to find that, but if you look at certain people who are writers or even in the past, they're also like, okay, very scholar in reading. These were individuals who did a lot of reading books or, you know, articles or whatever. Well, and writers seem to be separated in different categories. You know, you have your people that write novels, you know, fiction, whether it be romance novels or whatever, they specialize in fiction stories that are made up and then, you know, you just you have other classifications of writers. It's not as easy as it looks, people, believe me, because you have to be inspired and I'm just assuming it comes in spurts because people do get their minds do go blank once in a while where they can't come up with anything productive and then all of a sudden they get a brainstorm, you know, and it comes all at once and that's true. But like I said, the easiest way to write, so if you're the type of person that loves to read and, you know, you read books and novels like you said, you know, I mean, then I think you have the ability to write. It's just that my information comes from, you know, living and seeing other people and situations they went through and also media and it's another word of God. So I have a lot of knowledge that's feed into my brain. This is all fed into me. OK, now I have the ability to write to bring it out to the surface. Yeah, you're able to tie in Bible prophecy, Bible study in with real everyday life, everyday modern life, plus experiences that you've been through personally and your friends and family might have been through and you tie it all in together. And I I I'm assuming this helps you a lot with your stories. When you write mysteries and thrillers, yeah, it does. But it also depends on the path you're on, spiritualized, right? All right. So if you're growing in the word of God, you see things different than other people, these things, all right? So if you're not in the word, the Bible says, you know, people in the world are blind to the truth. Oh, what a doubt. OK, meaning they're not in the book. So if you're not in the book, if you're in the book, you can see you know, you're all spiritualized and the more the God God shows you things because now you're walking in the spirit. And there's a lot of confusion out here because like either what you said, oh, it's like, you know, you're some kind of like, you know, you could be some kind of prophet and stuff. No, no, that's not what it's about. You can prophecy to people, but all you're prophesying into people is the word of God and what to come. I don't see signs. I don't see visions. Know what I mean? It's all from God's work. Right. Well, if I'm in the word and I'm growing in the word and I go out and tell people and warn people, all right, now you're prophecy for your prophecy and God's work. Oh, the difference between your mystery stories, your writings and let's say somebody else who writes mysterious thrillers like Stephen King, the difference is Stephen King. Stephen King's stories are based on like fantasy surrealism, you know, where your stories are based on fantasy. But even if you look at the heart and you look at the heart. Oh, yeah, sure. If you see a thriller out there, guys, and you see thrillers on those and you see that's real. That's not fake. Oh, yeah. The person of wakes up with has nightmares and wakes up with deep scratches on their back. That's real. You know what I mean? That's real. I mean, those scratches are real. And well, what I mean is there are things out there. People, I always wonder why and stuff like that. That's fantasy. Yeah. Well, what I what I meant by Stephen, what I meant by Stephen King is his stories almost seem to be copies of nightmares. You know, because a lot of them are silly and bizarre. And yeah, but it's also, but if you read into him, it's also what he grew up watching. Right. He liked all the horror like he liked all the horror movies. Right. All right. So that was his interest. So when he went into writing and eventually turned them into movies, screenplays, that's where his heart is at, because that's what he grew up watching. Right. Well, I'll tell you, I grew up watching pretty much the same shows you did because being you are about the same age, maybe even exactly the same. I watched Chiller Theater. Right. You know, I watched the Outer Limits, of course, Twilight Zone, but mostly I watched a lot of Chiller Theater and you know, what was the other one? There was a couple, there was a couple of them. There was Chiller Theater. But, you know, the old classic horror movies is what I grew up watching. And I watched Alfred Hitchcock, of course, in those days before color TV, you know, I mean, you can't tell kids about the days of black and white TV because they look at you like you're from another planet, but... Of course, because it's just a different society. Yeah, I mean, at one time that's all we had. And, but I think the black and white, the black and white watching a thriller or horror mystery in black and white, I think it makes it more mysterious. Well, yeah, it does. And it's almost like it puts you there. Yeah, you know, but even then that I watched in the past, I don't watch none of that no more because there's nothing there for me no more. I'm not learning from that. Yeah, well, I don't really view today's modern movies and TV shows at all to me. They're well, you know, once in a big while, I'll watch something on sci-fi, but a lot of them they just don't do it for me. The the acting is ridiculous. And if it's not stupid acting or hammy acting or retarded acting, it's like all they do is whisper or they do is curse and jump in and out of bed. You know, there's no real like real great actors and actresses anymore. And forget, I don't even want to waste my time talking about situation comedies because they're a complete joke. You know, most most most of them are very, very gay and and there's always like they always put they always put Jews in every show, maybe because that's who runs Hollywood, the gays and the Jews. Well, yeah. But also when you look at different writings or certain people, all right, that feed stuff to other people, because this is the society you the writers that they hire. Aren't they? But they're feeding the public what is here today. What's what? Even if you go to music, they're feeding all these young kids negative music. Right. All right. Like if you want to show law and order, all right, that's been off for years. The guy who won that TV show, I think he was a prosecutor number one. And number two, you know, he did his homework from the newspaper in the news because he'll do an episode and you want that episode and you're like, wait a minute, wait a minute. This happened a year ago in real life. He just changes the names. Right. OK. Reality, this is what he's leaving you. What is going on in the world? For a lot of stuff that's written. A lot of stuff that's music wise, singing wise, fashion wise, it's what's going on in society. So if you've got terrorism going on, all right, you're going to make movies about terrorism. You're at, OK, is weird. They go all right and make movies and TV shows. So if you've got stupid, garbage TV, cursing, comedy shows, all right. And that's where you're at in society. All right, that's what you're getting. And you have no, no, nothing really that's funny on a situation comedy. The jokes are boring. They're not even funny. And like I said, every show is very gay, you know, and the actors and and it's just not funny at all. I mean, it's I was big fans of real funny sitcoms, the odd couple, you know, all the family, Jefferson's, Honeymooners, the list goes on and on and on. Samford and Son. Right. But if you look at all the family, wait, it's not all always dressed. And then yet it's finally becoming one episode to it. So we're buying it started to change. Lionel, Lionel Jefferson had an afro. And at that time there was a lot of civil rights. Exactly. So protesting was beating you where you're at in that society. And that's what they feed you. But if you watch on TV, all right, and you're not going to learn anything from it, it's like there's nothing there watching that show. Yeah. Well, that's why I only watch documentaries. I, you know, History Channel and or it could be A&E, it could be Discovery, it could be the travel, travel channel. But History Channel is pretty much on top when it comes to documentaries. I have to watch something where I'm learning, learning something. When I watch them or I see some that happened. OK, I go into that a little more deeper than another person. I see things a little more clear or now than the average person. Right. You know, it's funny, the writers on professional wrestling have been doing that for decades. They'll they'll take events and things that actually happen in real life and they'll make a joke. They'll make a joke out of it and they'll put it into into the pro wrestling event show. Now, I want to talk about a show that, you know, what's funny can create is, you know, when the holidays come around, they play marathons, right? You know, what the most popular marathon of all happens to be is the Twilight Zone, right? People, I know people that were glued to the set. They didn't they didn't care about all the other marathons. They wanted to watch the Twilight Zone. And I think about the Twilight Zone, the uniqueness of the Twilight Zone, which was much better than when Rod Saraling tried to do Night Gallery later on. The Twilight Zone's king, you know, is that you totally were blown away by the ending. You never knew what to expect and you learn a very deep valuable lesson from the episode. Yeah, because, see, the only way you respect the Twilight Zone is if you were like a Twilight Zone freak. OK, so it's like I grew up watching that show. You grew up watching that show. OK, and it was when we were growing up, it was kind of weird, but we liked it. But as we got older and it came back on the air on different stations, you know, you start looking at that in a different way. So now one time when I was younger, you know, I had to basement me and my brother. One friend would come over and we partied in the basement and stuff and put the TV on. I said, well, the zone's coming on. That's what I call it. The zone. Or like, yeah, it shows why I'm like, no, no, I watched this show. All right. So he comes on, he speaks. So then at the end of the episode, my friends are, like, interrupted, you know, talking to my setup. Like, why? I said, shut up. You're going to find out what the episode was about. Because if you don't listen to him at the end, you don't know what that episode was about. So now he comes back and he speaks at the end. My friends looked at me and they're like, whoa, that's heavy duty. I said, yeah, that's what goes over your head. And I said, well, we were rowing up. We didn't know that because we just watched the show. Oh, absolutely. I mean, I mean, I can think of the episodes that stuck in my mind the most was like the librarian. You know, you are absolutely, you know, Burgess Meredith, that was heavy. The Howling Man was very heavy. Right. I mean, these were unbelievably. But you had to listen to what he said at the end. Yes. Oh, what he said was he was so ahead of his time. You don't understand that episode. But what he says applies, I mean, that was the late 50s, early 60s. But what Rod Serling said, the lesson applies very much to today. Hasn't. Of course. Of course. But but there would be people that also watched the show. And at the end here, what they said, he said, and they still, they still didn't get it. OK, because once I really got into watching that now, like when I watch it now, if it comes on, I study it. Here's one thing to watch it when you're rolling up. OK. But if you're moving in the direction of writing and stuff, OK, and it's always called your interest. All right. Now, when it would come on, I study the episode. And I'm learning it. Yeah, you're breaking it down. You're right. Yeah. Well, if I sit there and I watch it, OK, I can say there's my dad's in a room, my sister's in a room. OK, they're talking. It's like, be quiet. You know what I mean? Watch the show. You learn from it. You know, so many people's heads that they really, really don't understand. Now, I read a lot of stuff about him. And even I would read one article, it was like a bio page on him and stuff. There was episode he wrote, OK, that he went through in his lifetime. And if you really study that show, a lot of that show is dealing with your brain. That's why when you see the beginning of the song, you see one in one equals two and square minus pie in this thing. You see a brain go by and you see a clock go by. Well, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, brain. So it deals with your imagination and your brain. What are you thinking? That's why when you see the episode, I'll kick the can. Yeah. All right. And they're in the old nursing home. Yeah. Right there in the nursing home. But the guy at the beginning of the episode was you or a little kid kicking the can and he went back in his brain and memory. I remember when I grew up and I did that. And then he looked at all the old people in the nursing home and it's like they're ready to die. OK. But he's saying to them, you know, we still got life to live. You know what I mean? So he's bringing them back when he was growing up to the people of his age. Remember, we were growing up and we did this and we did that. Now the people would like come in alive and he goes, you know, I was watching these little kids today, they were playing. Remember the game, kick the can. And I was just watching them and saying, wow, I remember when I did that. So now the other people were in the episode, it's like, yeah, I remember. Yeah, remember we played kick the can. So they all would like come in alive. Like they weren't just in that nursing home ready to die. So what this guy was trying to get across to them and Sterling was trying to get across to them. Even though you're in a nursing home, OK, just don't stay there. And it's like, this is where I'm going to die. Because you'll die quicker if you take the position you're in. Well, you see, you notice the state of mind. The lesson also that if somebody is old as far as years go, that doesn't mean they have to think old. No, no, but also if you really just got to that episode, what he's also telling you in that episode with the old guy, all right, was telling the people. So at night, he says, I got the can. We're all going to get together and go out over to play kick the can. So now they're playing kick the can. And the one guy thought he was a crackpot. So he got to hit people and say, if they're well out there. So they went to go look for them. They could find them. So the old guy who thought he was a crackpot, he's seen these young kids and he recognized them. And he says, I want to go where you are. You know what I mean? And he says, no, you can't come to where we're at. Like, we don't even know you anymore. OK. But also Rod Sparrowling is trying to tell you even each can't accept the fact that they're in their seventies, that they're in their eighties. All right. And their life span is being young and middle is gone. OK. So they want to try to do things to bring that youth back. OK, you can't bring your youth back, but you still could do things. Yeah. Well, I give you an example. My my mother's I guess she's 83. She was born or July 4th, 1932. So she has friends that are younger than her, that act and look older than my mother. And they she was always into dancing and music. And she used to go, you know, to Casey's, which became Joey Harrison's later on in Clifton. You know, she used to go out, disco, dance and dance clubs every week. And she enjoyed music and she enjoyed dancing. And and and she always did things that younger women did or middle age women. She never did anything that old people do, that seniors do. She she she refuses to go to a senior citizen club or a senior citizen center. She says, I don't want to hang out with those people. I don't want to hang out with those those old those old geysers and old bags. They're going to drag me down there. They're going to make me feel depressed. And and, you know what? Her state, her attitude worked for her. Um, yeah, it does. But if she knows something and there's nothing wrong with her going there, the lining up their spirits. Yeah, maybe she can do something to inspire them, you know. Absolutely. Now, you know, it's funny about the Twilight Zone. You ever noticed the similarity to the movie that Jim Carrey made called Liar Liar, where he played a lawyer and his son had one wish on his birthday and his wish that his wish was that his father would always tell the truth. And after that, Jim Carrey was telling the truth as a lawyer, telling the truth all the time. Well, that reminds me of that Harry Honeycutt, the car dealer in the Twilight Zone. Harry Honeycutt comes across this car and had a curse on it. And the curse was he had to tell the truth, yet to be honest. And here was a bullshit car dealer, Harry Honeycutt, lying all the time. And he was telling people, now you don't want this car, this piece of junk. You know, before a piece of junk had character, he'd say to somebody, no, this is not an old junk, this car has character. But because of the curse, he had to tell the truth. Well, that was very identical to Liar Liar. So what you said before is that people recycle ideas and concepts and things they see, and they just give it a different name. Well, yeah, because even if you look at, say, people like, you know, Hollywood or not in Hollywood, OK, and they did to a certain age. All of a sudden, every year starts time in gray, so they got to put that stuff in there here. OK, and they can look younger because they can't look in the mirror and face the fact that, wow, I'm 64 years old. Well, yeah, I still want to be 40, but you can't. You can't enjoy your life at that age. So if you have gray here, accept it. Well, gray hairs, they could come before a person looks old. Before you get wrinkles, you can start getting gray. I got some gray hair and, you know, my dentist told me, James, you got to color your hair. Yeah, you got to give this stuff's got to go. This has got to go. Well, I could color my hair because I mean, the die in the Dollar Tree, the dollar store has the color. I mean, I could do it and I've done it before, you know, it's like I did. I did do it myself. OK, right. That's a cop out. That's what society. Oh, this this has got to go. You've got to get rid of this gray, she says. OK, so so so you see in society, OK, because even I went to go through an event and was down at Patterson and then was by the court. That's what they were doing in the bank there. I'm coming through. OK, now I'm getting gray here. These two young girls who looked at me and they say, hey, over there. And I looked at them, I'm like, yeah, OK, you're calling me an old man. All right. OK, have a dance. No idea the power that is lying inside me. Yeah, but if they feel like 18 years old, if if they were to if they were to challenge you to a dance off, they would have been very, very embarrassed. Well, they not only would be embarrassed, OK, but the. I'm fifty years old right here about around the same age. Well, I'm fifty six. OK, so now people say, well, no, I'll be you on fifty. Like, man, you're getting old. You know what they don't yours. Well, maybe they're miserable. No, the truth. All right, if you're a Christian or non-Christian, OK, you're going to live forever. So fifty eight just means a number. Yeah, but you see how they try to bring you down because maybe they were unhappy. Well, they try to bring you down because they don't understand the truth. Like when my mom passed away, my friend said to me. He's my age, fifty eight. My mom said to me, how old was your mother? I thought she was eighty five because that's a long life. He goes, well, I'll take another ten years. OK, how could you say that? How could you say I'll take another ten years? You'll take it. Give me another ten years. OK, so now you got another ten years. OK, what are you going to come back and say? I'll take another ten years. All right, of course, of course, people don't want to. The bottom line is people cannot accept the fact because when people start to get older, OK, time is running short. Yes, that your death is coming. People can't accept that. Well, yeah, it just means you're closer to the grim reaper. You're closer to death. OK, so now I look at this. The mind philosophy is because of the study of the Bible, OK? You cannot enjoy life until you understand what death is. Once you understand what death means and you get that out of your way, OK, you can enjoy your life. But if you don't know what happens after the great after you pass away as the world says, right? And now if you don't understand what happens after that, no, that's why people cling on to life. Oh, he called, you know, he gave his last effort. Yeah, because he doesn't understand what that means. Well, I know, I know an atheist. I know an atheist that says you. Because this is all made now. But if you understand things after you leave this world, you can enjoy your life. Well, yeah, this I know this guy who's an atheist says you just you just rot in the ground and that's it. I go, you sure? I says, you you you meet to tell me you meet to tell me with the advanced. I mean, I know humans are inherently sinful and wicked, but, you know, with with the advanced minds that humans have, I said, you meet to tell me that you don't believe anything, anything occurs after death at all. He says, no, no, you just rot. That's it. Goodbye. That's it. You're done. Yes, but that's his philosophy, but without me, and I guarantee if you really step down and that you put that guy, I guarantee that guy said he's afraid of death. Well, I know he has issues. I know his father abused him and everything, you know, not what I understand. And I said, when he's eight, he's come along for a while. Now, I'm not afraid to be full of crap, full of crap. You fear that. What if he was? What if he was hanging from a ledge for dear life and he was hanging on? He was, you know, his legs were dangling. He'd be he'd be praying real quick. He could be, but he could be also too far gone, you know, and he put it this way. The Lord gives you the chance to give you a chance to give you a chance to give you a chance to give you a chance. But then the mind most is every day that goes by and the heart is there, a wicketer and a wicketer. Two days. But every day that goes by, people are already refusing the call of salvation. That heart gets harder. Another day goes by, that heart gets harder. Another day goes by, that heart gets harder. So the hope, once there, it's almost going down the tubes. Yeah. Well, you, you, you know, two times over, you don't know. You know, two Timothy, you, you, you, you know what it says about how people will become. And you're seeing it, you're seeing it, you're seeing it. Right. But the Bible says don't be strange when you see these things. Don't be strange. Wow, what's happening here now? You should know this. See, I mean, look, look at what's happening. The top 20 percent or one percent, one to 20 percent of the richest people in the United States, that they want to take away everything from the poor in the middle class. They want to take away everything, even your social security, your Medicare, unemployment insurance, you name it, they want to take it away, food stamps. So even the veterans, they don't care about. No, they don't care about nothing, man, because they have theirs. I got mine, and that's all I care about. Doggy dog world, man. And what makes the world go around the green? The money. The money is their God. That is this world. That is the material world, Satan's worlds. Money is the God. And you know, when you were telling me and you're different and if God gives you the talent and the Holy Spirit is controlling you and people see this, they can mock you, they can persecute you, they can put you down or they can really dig what you do. OK, now if you go a little deeper, when it becomes into the spiritual part with Satan, Satan looks at you as a threat and says, you ain't getting there. So I'm going to bring all people your way. All right, what do you think? The door is open, that's closed. And that's closed and that's closed. OK, so you're locked, you're persecuted, you're put down, that all comes from Satan because you are a threat and anybody who's a threat, he wants to take down. So he wants you to get to the point to say, throwing the towel can create this. You don't got it. You think you do. Yeah. But you don't got it. But you can't get no shows. Why are you still doing this? All right, nobody wants you. You know, John, yeah, but if you follow the Bible, there's price on right and door to the end. So if God gave you a talent, all right, and he's giving you abilities and you're out there for Christ, you can't throw in the towel because you're going to be a big judge and see the question. Right. But you notice how people that sell out to the evil forces and show biz show business and entertainment. You know, you know, you notice how quick they get rich. The whole world, the whole world can be yours if you bow down to me. Of course. But now it's affected in the body of Christ. Yeah, it's invaded the body of Christ. When I was going to church, you were at the hymn book. And my friend played the keyboard, you know, we had a little choir and we sang out of the hymn book. You don't have that no more than gospel performers OK, that they put the back of their songs. And that's what they think. Yeah. Now, I just want to say that Mr. can create the writer has multitudes of stories and screenplays that he wrote. He has many already. It's not like he's an aspiring writer that's just, you know, breaking into the business. No, no, he's got lots of stories. And do you have a deep story or poem that you could read to the folks now? Or, you know, I could play very lightly on my drum in the background. Well, I could tell you about one episode I got on my head. Basically happened because I've seen it in life. OK, this is this is a story that's written down. What it's about. Oh, OK. OK, so what happened was when I was younger, we used to go to the dance club, the bomber club. Right. And I think I'm happy while I heard the story. All right, down the road, I said this recently. Inspired you. OK, right. So now what happened was we were on our way to the club. Eighty six bomber squadron bar, right? Yeah, we're going to the club, the traffic is backed up. We're like, wow, what's going on here? So we finally got to the point where we made a move. And we went down the road, but the parking lot was packed. The parking lot was backed up. So when we finally came in, the bouncers said the club is closed tonight. Why? Why is it closed? He said, because about a half hour ago, there was three young kids who parked the course of the street. But this is what they did when it was packed. And they ran across the street. Two of them made it, but one kid didn't. And he got hit and he died. OK, so the place is closed. So me and my friends are like, wow, so we left. This is how I got on work recently. I was like, that's an episode. He said, now these three young guys, they all will go to college and to work. But on Friday night, when they even get together and they go to a club, have all three of them in three different sets of three different parts. Working, taking a shower. Here's the telephone call. Yeah, I'm coming to get you. One picks up the one and then he picks up the other. Now it's all three of them. They're heading to the club. OK, now they're going to party. They're going to have a good time. Little do they know they don't know what's going to happen. That's the unexplained. That's why what I'm saying is you don't know when your time is up. OK, so anyway, they parked the car. Well, three of them get out. They run across the street to make it one get hit. OK, he's laying there. The ambulance come. You're trying to bring him back to life. And they're like, he's dead. So they put the blanket over them. They cover up the ambulance is gone. But the club is open. All the people get in the club. You've got the DJ, music playing, people drinking, you know, partying, and all of a sudden it's going around. Wow, do you know what happened to that kid? Wow, yeah, he died. Wow, that's what's going around. All right. Now, you get to the point that these guys really like busting some music out and they're all in the dance floor dancing. Having a good time. Having their time. All right. And all of a sudden the camera would take place. All right. Where you see them dancing and it's like to them. All right. And then to the fee and to the dance floor and underneath that got hit and got killed. You see him in torment. Which is hell. Was he was he a kid that was like very spoiled and selfish and all you know, you don't even have to be spoiled into drugs. Well, what makes you what makes you think a regular kid? You want to go with the story with the kid? OK, he can be a casual drink or whatever. OK, but you can have him as a good kid. You know, I'm trying to say. Oh, I got it. I got I got a little lad at a little twist picture this unexpected death. The kid gets hit. He's young. You know, of course, he didn't think it was going to be his last day on earth that day. He goes to the club. He doesn't make it. OK, his spirit. Because it was so sudden, his his soul or his spirit can't accept the fact that he's dead. His spirit walks into the club thinking that he that he's really walking into the club. All of a sudden he's in a club and it looks very, very eerie. It looks very like strange, with strange like red smoke. And he all of a sudden he starts to see evil figures walking around with red eyes. And he and he's asking somebody, what is this? This is not Halloween. Is this a Halloween party? And nobody's talking to him. Everybody's ignoring him. No, and he comes to realize that this is no Halloween party, that these are demons and they try to stay, try to get him. And he's running from them. And you could that's pretty good, but you're going more into almost a fictional part. It's going to be reality. Well, if he's dead, there might be a little process before he gets taken to a place of torment. I mean, you know, well, it's going to be real. It's going to be real. Yeah, but but but him going to a place of torment is not real. Nobody, nobody has been able to prove that there has to be a message. OK, so what you're saying is, yeah, that's good. Don't get me wrong. OK, but that's not reality. But you've got to show that. Well, the but there's no proof that the kid is going to be in hell. But you've got to show people that that place is real. Right, which means before before the kid gets taken out that night, you've got to show him what kind of a person he is interacting with his friends. Well, yeah, but that's the episode. The episode, that's the end. So at the end of this, this could be the end. All right, so for the first twenty five minutes, if you're going to a half hour, could just be the center around him and his two friends or maybe friends of hers at the end. Now, you can have them, you can have him in torment at the end and then. OK, or you can have him in torment. All right, and then the end can be coming back. All right, the cameras come back out. You see. The dance floor, the wooden floor and people dance. And you can end it that way. Yeah, could do that. Or you can end it. It just goes right down to hell. You see him in torment and then. Right. I don't know what I come back. Right. Like Bob Starling would and tell you, OK, he went through and where he ended. That this actually happened. Right. And is there a place that people, OK, that weren't right with their creator? Is there a place of torment? Yeah. When you thought, well, you know what? I'll let you decide on that and it goes off. You know, well, leading up to that, you could show how this kid wasn't right with his creator. Maybe he just wasn't a very nice person. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about people that aren't. OK, this happened to this kid he was. OK, when it came to the Lord, I have no idea because I didn't know this kid that there are people. OK, each bracket that died. Right. But I'm just saying you got to make us you got to make a story out of it. You just can't have the kid. I have no idea who that kid was. Well, I know, but that's not enough time to fill up the story. You got to do something before the kid gets killed. I know. I just told you that that could be the end. The end of it. OK. All right. But what's talking about reality? No, it isn't. Is this kid in health? I have no idea. Yeah, but what? Yeah. But when you say reality is what kind of a life he lived on earth when he was alive, nobody. The word reality doesn't apply to what happens after you die because nobody was able to prove. Yeah, I know. I'm based on faith. You're right. You're right. OK, that's what I'm basing with God. I know. OK. So what I'm saying is I didn't know this kid. I never met this kid. I never hung out with this kid. I'm not a judge of that kid. But when it comes to reality, there are people in that situation. Kids go to clubs, they OB and they die. Is that what you're trying to say? Yeah, well, it happens all the time. And a lot of these kids that OB and die, come in at these clubs, don't go to Edmond Brown. Hey, there's kids that die in car accidents from texting. Exactly. Just texting. And you've got to look at the whole world, this group of people who are chosen. So the majority of people that pass away, Brown, they don't go to Edmond. OK, they're blind. They reject the message. Right. I'm going by my face. Right. I'm going by what the Bible says. Right. Well, for me to do the TV show and have certain episodes like this. This is like, say, one is to get out there for people. Watch the show and say, well, what if this is really true? Yeah, well, you got to you got to tweak it and doctor it up. You get you got you got you can't you can't approach mainstream entertainment with religious episodes. It's not really this episode. OK, that's why it's called I'll let you decide. It's your choice. Right. To direct that or reject. Well, there's actually a lot of sci-fi. They got movies on sci-fi. They got movies out there about how about are you kidding me? And they're huge. They're huge. OK, well, as long as you don't mention the word of Jesus Christ, you can get that on here. Well, there's lots of movies and shows about angels and demons and that's what I'm talking about. Poltergeist and all kinds of things. Yeah, you can get that on the ear. All right. And you can just mention your creator's name when you have the message there. And now we'll read the people he wants to read. Better watching that. Yes, but it's getting out there. But it's getting out there, right? That's the bottom line. That's like when I perform. OK, and there's an audience and I do the performance. They like it, but then there's other ones like that. That's stupid. I don't know who that's reaching. That's not my job to know that. But I'm there and I'm doing my job. That's what I'm called to do. Who God is saving? When I do these shows, I have no idea. Not my job. But I'm there. Yeah, you're there. God willing, if this TV show does happen, it's not my job to know who's becoming saved. That's not my job. My job is out there. You let people decide. That's all. I don't decide, but I'm doing my job. I'm getting it out there. Now there might be preachers who watch that and say, well, that's cool, but there might be other preachers who watch that. No, that's not right. That's not what I'm worried about. OK, if I'm doing my job and God tells me and gives me these ideas, OK, and right now they're in my head and if it does come my way and they're turning the script, they'll put that material together. It's not me. So if he puts it together, then he wants it out there. And if it's out there and it's approved from him, do you think I'm worried about a preacher? Do you think I'm worried about a pastor? Not my mouth. Yeah. OK, if it's God who works and he puts it out there and he uses me and it's pleasing him, I'm not worried about that. I'm doing my job. All right. That's what it's about. Yeah. That's what I do. All right, good. Well, let's give the folks a sample of one of your stories so I could bongo in the background. Well, let me see what I got here. You know, this time you give me off-guard and grab some here. Yeah, just let me know ahead of time when you found something. I have to go on the other book, but I want to see you go on to the book. Put it down here. The prisoner? Prisoner. Prisoner, OK. He's doing it for sure. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah, excellent, excellent. Did that come to you? All right, that's where he came to make me up. And he said, hey, I choose what. He goes, yeah, never guess who died. I said, who's died? And Michael Jackson came for me. And that's how you learned that Michael Jackson passed away. Well, yeah, but I looked at him, OK? He had to close. He had to rest around. He had his mansion and what he's doing is busy. I got to close this out. OK. OK, thank you. Can't create. The writer can't create for your very first appearance on MegaLife, a 21 progressive podcast. And we'll catch you next time. We got to do a second one. All right. We'll make it a series if possible. All right. All right. Good night.