 If you take many things for granted, they are difficult to explain and you have to be asked the question by someone like Rob, why are you European, why democracy? But if they are in danger suddenly, then you think very hard. It's a variation of the American, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. But if it is broke, you have to fix it, and to fix it, you have to think about it. So I was thinking that if I wanted to begin from today my contribution to this coffee house discussion, thinking for a moment about Ukraine, think about the energy that was suddenly created in the Ukraine, what was it about a year and a half ago, two years ago, when the trouble started, where there were demonstrations that turned violent and turned into this terrible war, civil war and non-civil as well with Russia. It started with people who wanted passionately to belong to Europe. That should be something to caution us. That should be something to go against the apathy and the inertia of, ah, Europe has many problems, so why bother with it, or let's see what's wrong in it rather than what's good in it. And think that people were protesting with passion and then started dying for it. And if people are dying for something and they're not mere opportunists or people looking after material gain, there must be something in that idea that deserves at least our attention, I think. Rob, you said that the Greece is about to, probably will go out of the European Union. The UK is in the process, possibly, of going out through the European Union. Well, both those statements I contest. Greece may go out of the European Union, but there are very many Greeks who are against that option and are willing to work for this not to happen. And Mr. Cameron wants to have a referendum, and I don't know why not. I'm not British, but I think the outcome of that is not at all certain that it will be that we go out. So rather than say why I would feel like a European under normal circumstances, like say five, ten years ago, if I was speaking to you, I would refer to the culture and the values and the old civilization and the new civilization and my culture, which is a combination of Greek culture and the gnold language and a modern Western education, and stay on the present situation where, to me, the battle for Europe is for you, it is being fought for Europeans, I mean, well-intentioned Europeans, even the best friends of Greece. It is being fought regarding Greece in Brussels, in Germany, in Berlin, in London, in Paris, in Athens, between Greek and politicians from, Greek politicians and politicians from other European countries. To me, the battle for Europe at this moment is being fought inside Greece by those of us like myself, who accept a strong part or the biggest part of the blame, both for the crisis, which was led us to the program for eight, five years ago. We accept the responsibility both for what happened in those years that led us to the crisis for our partial ability and partial inability to try and solve the problem with the European Union for five years, and then who accept fully the responsibility now and think that our present government is going the wrong way trying to solve this problem, because I think that one of the core values of a Western, let's say, Enlightenment-type culture is self-criticism and rational analysis, so I think by those tools we see the great responsibilities of Greece also, and we feel that fighting inside Greece, the populist tendency that is essentially anti-European, I hear the argument again and again and again in Greece that Europe is not democratic. To those who say Europe is not democratic, I say, go and live in a country which is really not democratic, and then come back and tell me that Europe is not democratic. I will accept that Europe is not democratic only if I accept that democracy does not exist anywhere in the world, but democracy is not a culture or an institution of extremes. It is a culture of collaboration, and collaboration has to do with making many mistakes and living with them. It is a tragic, in the ancient sense, polity and not an ideal, not a false utopia. So those of us who are fighting for the ideal of Europe at the moment, in Greece, against ourselves, against our worst part, as I think, which is essentially anti-European, and I think a big part of that is in government at the moment, expressed in anti-European essentially populist rhetoric, are really feeling that we are European, we want to be European, we are fighting to be European in defense of Western liberal democracy.