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Oh here it is e-fap number one two three Filmento twin perfect man of steel and dick There it is It stops with dick for me It's all over In dick splash, who's dick splash and why would you pop? Why would you name yourself that? That's from the movie. The ginger kid cults Before the bus accident it's incredible harsh. That's my favorite part of the movie The person in the movie with the greatest character development said that The funny part is he says dick splash right before the the bus like gets it whatever happens to it It's like they make it dramatic. It's like dick splash That's what brought such pain upon the world Well, it was hard to come up with how to put that because his series is called an anatomy of a failure or anatomy of a failure But it's like I can't say anatomy of a failure when there's like four different subjects It has to be anatomy of failures and anatomy and a mini failures to discuss We do actually my goodness and um one of them would be Filmento one is twin perfect one is of course the movie And then dick splash. I need to discuss. We need to go with dick splash. Oh, yeah, that's right cuz cuz Man of Steel is bad Oh, yeah, well, I guess should we should we do a little bit about one division? Oh, yeah One of it a week Well, do you want to do should we just not talk about it all until like its own e-fab? I don't know if it's I don't know Yeah, it's gonna be enough in one division as a whole to do it like an e-fab on it. I I think I Hmm yeah, cuz I'm thinking we only have three more episodes to go for four So should we just save it to the end and do a bigger thing? Sure. We could do that I mean, we're gonna be stocked up today to be honest with you. This intro needs to be as short as possible because we have the potential of Jesus Christ You'll take out there There's there's to take are gonna elaborate and I fucking know now we're talking about man of steel So, yeah, there's like an hour's worth of video for us to go through We probably don't know all of it the ones we will try and definitely do will be the film into one and Well, you know what? We'll do film into first cuz I don't know if we'll be able to do anything else You know, you know why they call it man of steel. Why cuz it's all three hours of my fucking life Is good god damn We're high five right there. There's the extra man of steel now Is it three hours? It's two hours and 23 minutes. It feels like So there's an extended Two hours and 23 minutes. Oh, what was the theatrical was it two hours? Um Crab battle we actually well, I actually Decided to give it a quick rewatch since our e-fab movies, which by the way, yes It went it went down e-fab movies man of steel Memo repositories is tooling with it We're gonna leave it up for a couple of days on its own to see if it gets hit again because you know How copyright works it likes to fuck you at the worst time instead of doing it consistently It shall return batwoman episode 2 is is around about ready. It should be coming probably I don't know Monday Wednesday I don't know how to time things anymore. It's too difficult. But yes, sorry about that Some people got to see the whole thing. Some people didn't get see any of it Some people saw like half and then they were booed from it But yes, the truth is out there we didn't think man of steel is very good So I Reminder that man of steel itself is better than the entire MCU. So it's not Something that wrong is ever said well within online for four minutes. That's that's a new record. I think holy shit So that's actually insanely wrong So I'm sad because Phil Minto has a really good video comparing civil war with Batman v Superman Well, yeah, he was the thing if he says that man of steel is like perfection. I can't trust him ever If he said I have to go outside and check. We've got the trifecta. He said man of steel and knives out are excellent And like just well, I say that as he called one perfect and one evidence of great writing And then he called underwater like a failure In terms of writing and a bad knockoff of alienists like dude, okay, you can have several bad takes and still have good ones I still believe it's gonna be it's crazy This is gonna be the hot take of ours that underwater is way better than man of steel. It's not even close. Okay, so But to some people it will be and that's the sad for those in that sad Currently believe that man of steel is anything close to or above Fucking okay. I'm gonna we need to rock your world today. Yeah I don't know whether we should go over some broad criticisms or we should just stop video watching with things trickling in what you reckon I Think we should just start the videotisms and then couldn't all occur Because if we start talking about how bad the movie is I was It's and I guess this will sort of be our first man of steel coverage because the E-fap got copy-struck and it did indeed it shall retail In a in Avengers infinity, that's a real sad There's so much to go through for how bad this film is I'm hoping that through covering people's videos that we will get a nice chunk of I Guess the subjects will do I've asked, you know, yes fist on the docket today Man of steel how to build the greatest DC EU movie film perfection Now before this retardation begins I don't know some someone is asking you know, I think it's a good segue is man of steel better than the first Wonder Woman film Well at the end of now at the end of our I'm gonna recording we had a lengthy discussion comparing the four DC EU movie Well three at that time. Oh Yeah, that's right. Do we need to we need to do we need to break through the news to him now or should we wait about About that Batman Superman's actually the best. Yeah, sure go for it. I think I'll Superman's of the best so far. I will I'll I'll take Easily Of course the extended edition. Yes out of the woman Wonder Woman 84 man of steel and BVS extended BVS extended is the best of the four I'm so sorry everyone Remember when we saw the best that's still not very. Oh, yeah, it's not good But there's more in it that I can praise than any of the other four, but there's the least not there's the least wrong with it Um Yeah, hopefully, you know, this is the thing. We're on our DC EU arc ready readying up for the Snyder cut It's gonna be fun. You guys have seen us covering those first two Wonder Wammons now on to the the first of Snyder's and But I mean we're better to start than announcing. We think man of steel is absolute garbage fire and then covering a video That says film perfection. I feel like this. These are two conflicting perspectives. Don't you think? Our position So good That was it. Oh, all right. Well the film perfection is a series of his videos So I don't know if he's saying specifically this is well, but he needs a different name Perfection then surely the film's being talked about in film perfection I agree. I'm saying is that this is not the only movie. He said is film perfection Wait, is that a further mark against him? Is that I would say so action What's funny by the way is does anyone have like any kind of interesting history about a steel because I was so Disinterested with the DC you at first Batman first Superman was the one that made me start paying More attention, I guess which is kind of funny to look back on because that's literally the fucking second movie It's not even like yeah, like well There was nothing to really do yet because I remember man of steel when I watched I was like the first time around But now like paying super attention to it. It is a marvelous writing Disaster in so many ways, but I remember the my group of friends back when this came out So we're talking fucking 10 million years ago They were all arguing over Zod snap neck and whether or not Superman should or should not have done it I remember that was like the peak of discussion, which to me isn't even remotely interesting right now Why when I see that scene I'm like well, of course anyway moving on Yeah, like that's not even close. Yeah, so should we close down Auschwitz and we would lose jobs It's like, okay Yeah, the last human on earth was Hitler you probably want to kill him. Yeah, it's like you can't squash that bug. It's the last cockroach Wouldn't that just egg you out you'd be like, oh my god Yeah, if I had to kill the last mosquito, I definitely would I think a lot of people would make that I would announce it on Twitter calm So anyway, you guys ready for this Oh wait Where is my where the tap open did it open in that window it did All right, we're good. Why is the quality for my little bloom peak? Give me 10 because this is made of steel The resolution is irrelevant the quality will be terrible Are there quality options for watching I mean there are a little fog wheel, but I don't know if they do anything Because I've changed my but it was done This is interesting How would you how do the DCU greatest of all time the DCU that's not a sentence Well, how to go to DCU is close enough to go them into something are you trying to like I guess we didn't mention by the way that I'm on a farm On a farm I Find it the fascinating to be like, oh, do you know which one is the greatest the DCU? We always be said they're like you could pick any of them. I guess depends on the argument Wait, no Should be difficult to figure out because they're all souls. It's like no Garbage or a train as I was working on my last week's upload on Wonder Woman 1984 wasn't too positive It made me think about the main Yeah, it's very bad. I would oh, it's hot. It's not even hot take fuck it I unapologetically enjoyed Wonder Woman 84 and I Day any day over Wonder Woman one Batman vs Superman or a man of steel Yeah, highest on the enjoyability factor for me for sure so far. Yeah, I think I can agree with that I remember there's there's long pauses between the stuff. I like though and you know enjoy rather That however, Mahler that implies that there are at least two things that you like well Hey, there's two things I like to be as probably I've just kind of forgotten what I even said that I liked in that movie Alfred any scene with Alfred in it. I can just sit around sort of sneak Weaknesses with the CEU so far and how those weaknesses could potentially be fixed in the future And what I quickly realized was that in order to ever find that fix for the future We have to go all the way back to the beginning to the one and only man of steel So the idea here being We're fucking up the DC right now. We need to go back to Man of Steel to discover how we got it right at first So that there was no DCEU when man of steel came out that was like I can tell hey He's that was the first of a Superman trilogy and then they changed their minds You get the point. He's making he's saying this is the the archetypal the blueprint Though they're supposed to follow for future movies and they didn't and look how is that even a bloop what kind of blueprints I suppose That's gonna be the video You're going to explain to us how we could have made a better Wonder Woman Maybe a better I don't see how Wonder Woman 84 would be modeled in any way after this, but It's a Trilodray Trilodray Wait, is he doing the Dusty Adachi? I've seen where I guess he's why it wasn't the music that played in the scene I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest. It it bugs me that of and the Superman logo aren't like together Yeah, but if Wait, oh, oh, you mean putting all yeah. Yeah, I kind of agree Yeah, why they do the right. Oh, yeah, because they were like Chris Should we put man on top of in the middle and steal on bottom? No, let's make it fucked up I Hold on a second medic that way. Yes. Oh, that is the logo. Yeah, what's to come? No, it's just that stands for hope stands for hope It's like a ripper it's just like a ripper it's not a blood It's a plague of Egypt This film is a plague of Egypt. Do you have any proof against that? Mm-hmm Then the ninth plague will be fucking the DC you all the egyptians have to watch it And there's this image of Saxon Ida for the ninth place Arrows in his palace and his widescreen TV. He's 17 hours in the Batman vs. Superman. He's like, I will not let them go I'll suffer through any DC EU movie man. I do want to see the 17 hour cut I just had a curiosity, you know, I know a lot of people be like, why would you want to see this? Give him a chance Good old zaki. He knows what he's he knows what's going on Now is man or still the greatest DC you movie made so far? Well, that's a question of just personal opinion and so ultimately doesn't really matter But what does I'd be curious what wait like how he would qualify any of this if it's entirely personal opinion I'm assuming he's gonna be drawing out some stand. Let's play the game everyone It's all personal opinion, but I wonder if you'll make any statements of fact about how you should write something It should be good. Who knows? Well, I mean if this is the greatest DC EU movie clearly he thinks it is right and we're gonna learn Outman still is that it very much halts the codex key for making the greatest business new DC you movie You wouldn't want to include the broader sort of superhero movies in general like why wouldn't you want to be like Man of Steel is an example of how good it can get but the you know It probably doesn't reach the levels of and then just give me an example of what you think are the best ones Because I need a reference point we're talking strictly really not sure the best of the DC EU is a point of pride Well, I think there's not even that many of them We're like seven the seven There's more than that now probably like nine I don't know I think they're all done get the help great asbestos you guys are so mean Yeah, I guess so That coding purpose see one of core issues with the DC film universe so far has always been the case of either or Either the movies focus mainly on character and end up weak on plot. Just saying he's what Charming those phones. So what I can charge a phone or they focus mainly on plot and Character, do you think the plot in suicide squad is strong? So I don't I don't know the I've never seen suicide squad, but I've never seen its plot get praised He's got BBS in there for plot. Where didn't we say like no, yes, it's absolute gov For sure Oh Yeah, oh boy. Also the plotting man of steel is garbage, too, but we can go over that in time. I suppose I do find it amusing that he's like you see BBS suicide squad just like their problems are they focused on their plot Not their characters wait, I know what he's gonna do He's gonna go but see look the ones that focus on plot and character are great and he'll put Aquaman and Wonder Woman in there Suicide squad or they try to do both, but then ultimately crumble before the finish Before the third act I'm sorry. Yeah, I think they all tried that and they all crumbled like I don't It's all just crumble. I don't think all the other movies were just like, ah, we're just not gonna do characters Or we're just not gonna do that It'd be a crumble cake Focus not quality So what would be the point in saying this if he's not appealing to the fact that they would be of strong quality when focusing on the one That they're going for like he's trying to say that he's gonna say man of steel is the one that nailed it, right? They got both of them. Yeah, meanwhile The others either got one or the other like some of the chance and we some kind of snapped neck Like are you suggesting that he's suggesting that they focused on plot in Suicide Squad, but they failed everything anyway It's like what did they focus on the Suicide Squad? How would the solution then be Focusing on both or whatever when they failed to do even one Like I don't know what the point of this would be if he's not trying to suggest that The individual focuses of where they was they were strong where they failed was where they didn't focus Isn't isn't there that one picture that one meme picture of The of like a cat in the cat is like the eyes are fucked up So one's looking forward and one's clearly looking to like the left You know and the text would be like the ECU's focus or something along those lines. I don't know. Yeah Yeah We were like casually throw like who's like the best dialogue writers and we had a couple of stress Tarantino is always one of the most referenced ones. It's night is like Josie boy Snyder's one of the worst man It's like some of some of the dialogue even though this isn't Snyder so in fairness to him This is well. Well in fairness the Snyder didn't write Snyder didn't write man of steel That was written by David S. Goya. Maybe it's David S. Goya. That's to blame. All right Well, the general sense dialogue is kind of black in a lot of them Well, well, if we just if we just read his what he's written so he wrote terminated dark fate He wrote Batman v Superman. He wrote man of steel. Yeah He did the story for Dark Knight Rises and Dark Knight and he wrote Batman begins Well, what a cavalcade and he wrote he wrote he wrote all the blade movies, too Oh, yeah Edgar Wright is a really good dialogue writer as well. Yeah, that's a good one though I remember saying it wasn't their line or two in either Man of Steel or Bvs that we were like Oh that line was good Yeah, there's some yeah, there was some like there are little things here and there that are good. Yeah But for whatever reason maybe because of Chris Nolan man of steel is it successfully handles both I guess I'll put that on screen. I don't know. It's I don't know we did the meme We did the meme I don't need We are very clever Whatever reason that maybe because of Chris Nolan man of steel is the anomaly It successfully handles both plot and character work in a way that properly functions from beginning to end Also, it sounds like we've drifted away from personal opinion already But hey, oh also he's suggesting Aquaman is another one the only entry to do that But it is an entry that does Think see this is funny Ars in both as well I find it endlessly amusing that a lot of people think Aquaman has good characters You just like Jason Momoa and I like it too That's it because everybody else like Mara sucks dude Motion master is hilarious. He turns his rifle laser into a face later Why did he do that? What would be? It's I'm looking for the raxia. Okay. Oh black man sir. Yeah Why would it's so impractical? I think one of my favorite things one of my favorite things. Yes. Yeah. He is a black guy Black man But I what I find funny in that movie that I remember is like every time the character said there's superheroes Super villain name. There was like a musical cue. So it's like oh ocean master I like you can call me black man I Say for the record that I don't think man of steel functions in terms of character or plot I don't think it functions at all. There is nothing in it that functions There's problems everywhere and there's huge ones Like if like if you throw a grand piano off a roof like it gets to the bottom You see when you get to the end of the time code of man of steel you're like we've completed a film Yeah, well at least the piano was fast with getting to the bottom. Let's be honest We want to hear the sound the piano makes when it crashes down It would be great Beginning to end it might not be the only entry to do that But it is an entry that does that even though it is totally valid to say that in here as well that same division I don't know if it was in our live recording if they got this far, but especially on the left like this was I don't know if there's any like Mr. Kent fans out there Like I think what oh anyone who's a fan of Superman comics is gonna be a fan of Jonathan Kent seeing him say Yeah, maybe you'll let the children drown next time Drown horrifically maybe that was the better option Clark What a great This is that was the what what's everyone's opinion on water world before I make an analogy? I only saw one super young. I forgot loads of it. Yeah, same same Because a lot of people say it's bad, but I don't remember it being bad, but I watched it when I was young So I was gonna say this is like Kevin Koster's new water world, but then I was like, I don't know It's why we're bad. It's probably not with this Yeah Water world had had balls, okay It's an entry that does that even though it is totally valid to say that in here as well that same division exists because the first half Is mostly character and the second half is mostly plot the film still Grading them like the character got a C I guess I agree there's a awkward split in this film the first half is Nothing happens plot-wise and then second half is intense levels of plot Especially because the inciting incident doesn't happen until like nearly halfway through the movie Technically the inside incident is when he finds the ship because that's what brings That insights, I don't know. I feel like the inciting incident I define it, but I thought of it as when Zod appears on earth. Well Yeah, okay at this point It's just about definition then because we're drawing different parts of the timeline that we're like the main conflict of the story Is usually what is brought about by the inciting incident, but what is in the main conflict? What is when he finds the ship and activates the the distress beacon on it for some reason which brings odd there, right? Yeah, but he doesn't know. I mean, I guess but he doesn't know That It's I feel like it's when the conflict starts and the conflict starts when Zod arrives before that when he goes on the ship All that really happens is he gets a lot of info about his past You know, it's a lot of exposition, which isn't bad in itself But it is strange that the major conflict doesn't happen until so late in the film Sure There is well that same division exists because the first half is mostly character and the second half is mostly plot The film still manages to blend those halves enough to avoid the sense of vanity that so often plagues big parts Yeah, well, yeah to his first point that there is no blending It's like the character portion of this movie is complete the plot shall now begin Wow And though it is totally valid to say that in here as well that same division exists because the first half is mostly character and the second Half is mostly plot the film still manages to blend those halves enough to avoid the sense of vanity. Does he say halves? Just have slender when he said vanity when he meant to say futility That's they are very different words. I'm also lost, but The sense of futility Yeah, what I that doesn't even seem like the right one. Yeah, I don't I didn't get a sense of futility from Maybe when when the cities are being detonated, I guess Yeah, oh no Yeah, it's like it's super man gonna do anything and I feel futility Hmm is because the first half is mostly character and the second half is mostly plot the film His reference for plot was the weird tentacle things. I guess you can say that represents odds He should just be showing Zod. I don't know why he's showing the CGI tentacle snake. Yeah, but whatever fine During the second half is mostly plot the film still manages to blend those halves enough to avoid the sense of vanity That's so often plagues big parts of other entries So that's a sense of utility Often plagues other entries in this genre. I'm assuming is what he's saying Yeah, but I don't want the futility of what yeah, I don't I don't genuinely I don't get this He's saying like when you try and combo a plot and character in a lot of entries into the superhero movie genre You end up with a sense of futility It's like a sense of it. It was impossible to win. So don't try it like I don't guess He's gonna have to explain it. Otherwise that sentence doesn't make sense on its own There's some people say vanity. It's like no, no, he he's he put all the screen futility as a correction Didn't mean to say vanity vanity is a totally different word I would then assume he's saying that the film is full of itself do some degree Yeah, the only thing entity here with us falls in the river Yeah, guy for the people in chat who aren't seeing the screen. There's a correction on screen saying futility When he said vanity, yeah ignore him saying vanity. It's not what he meant He is pointlessness or useless Linus insane, I don't get why I say is to make the 20-minute videos per two weeks do not re-record It's my first fucking video Are you the in my futility? I Do this job and I said a word that is totally the wrong word and I should have said a completely different word for my video Should I record this line again? Fuck it. I'll do something that takes longer and I'll add text to the screen for a moment Thank you. It's just in the middle. Am I gonna dress it? Am I gonna dress it up? No, put shadows on it No bold. No nice font. No, just it's just what coupon Right in the middle. There you go. I meant futility there. Fuck you It's like he corrected it move on it's like hello We're talking about like a specific Creation I would have fixed it, but I don't give a shit the problem is the sentence doesn't make sense well Yeah, I guess yeah, that's the problem Like we've done we've done what we can to interpret what he may have meant. I really don't get it, but we can move on To avoid the sense of vanity that so often plagues big parts of other entries Even when scenes are lacking in character or plot those scenes always still carry a clear purpose And if you've ever seen back to the future, you'll know that there's a clear purpose in a ship I would like to pause the movie at that point and be like Phil mentor. What do you think the purpose of this scene is? You're like so he's exploring a ship I guess the purpose was so that he could meet his father fall third Graham Wait, I mean, he doesn't even know he doesn't even know what's gonna happen Yeah, it's just like for we got to get meta Like the purpose of the scene is because Superman has well, you know what let's begin criticisms So upon my rewatch I discovered something rather interesting when he's in the bar, you know the guy whose truck he impales Remember that whole thing that was fucking hilarious before that happens The girl gets her ass left right and that distracts him. Do you know what that distracts him from? There's two military guys at the bar discussing They talk about how there's an anomaly in this distant part of wherever and that they need to go and inspect it That's how he knows about it the ship He overhears two army dudes talking about an anomaly in some distant area of earth and by the way the first assumption Is that it's an old submarine Okay, so does Clark just search for all Anomalies on earth to find that hopefully maybe krypton sent a ship here 20,000 years ago Cuz I was gonna ask I'm not sure how he found the ship I wish that's the answer Wow Yeah, you overheard two army guys talking about it And so he became a photographer for the daily planet with false, you know ID and then just the first night there He decides right? I'm gonna go up the ship myself at the exact same time that Lois exits her tent and takes a photo And she catches him on the camera and she zooms in and says enhance Subtlety to herself and she can see him Where are you doing and then she follows him and what's possibly one of those dangerous seeds that she's I've been here Plot of the roof. What did you have to worry about? Establish That at night it gets to like negative 30 or negative 40 something like that and she just goes out in her jacket Yeah, you're right. They do establish this negative 40. I think you're gonna she's her face isn't covered by anything She's just got a jacket on it's like, oh, she'd be dead. They literally say we wouldn't be able to find your body if you stood aside And if they knew that in the plot she leaves like what are you doing to find she has a coat Jack's Yeah, so that that's all garbage, but clock is inspecting shit. He has no idea what's gonna happen He's just like hmm. What's this? What's it? Oh, this panel fits the key that I was sent to earth with I don't think he even remotely expects to be able to talk to his dad He's just he's just fiddling What what is he even looking for? Anything before this is all established. He says to Jonathan. He wants to know why he's here, right purpose That's why I think Phil mentors using the word purpose But I think if you take it literally like it doesn't mean fuck all in this scene because clock is just he's just fiddling around He doesn't know what's going on. He's just like, uh, this is a weird this could have been a ship from anywhere He's just like, I don't know could be hopefully his crypto. I guess so if he was just like around in the restaurant working there, I guess or whatever he does there and Like though the waitress had gone to the two military guys It was taken their order like the movie wouldn't have happened. Well, what's really crazy about this is that he Lifts the ship off and lands it in some other distant area that night had he not the government would have taken control over it. Oh Wow, good. He showed up that day and he went there that night All of that is held up by matchsticks and he's complimenting that's plot by the way, which is in the first half of the film Something has to happen because it ain't Hearing it's not that he it's not at all like an old person could have heard what the The army dudes were talking about it's the fact that All the places that these two guys could have been they happen to be discussing this openly with an earshot of the one person who needs to find the ship on earth It They're discussing it in a very vague way to like oh, they found some anomaly in the ice So we're just like oh, that's definitely gonna be evidence of my people. There's no other way Well, this is what I mean. I was like wait, so does he inspect these regularly like does he keep an eye on the news? You like Many questions All the weird alien places. These are the two guys look found them. They're just about anomalies, you know And and as you do lucky man because this was the anomaly that he needed to find especially a day before the government fiddled with it, you know crazy Which and creates the central question about man of steel we need to answer Hit me so it's not lacking in plot then you said it was but it's not yeah, if that's a very central It's you cannot remove that scene from the film and have it still function. So it is critical I you need to think rethink what you're saying. Wow Picking on you Video or anything So this is how we'll do it, I guess right so over the course of the stream We are going to pick apart loads of different scenes and then you could decide for yourself the entire film functions anymore after all of That would have me laugh it on the second time around because basically they've got clock trapped on there They're super ship, which is another point of fuck-upery that will go over in a bit And when they're down there their job their goal is to find the codex They don't know yet that it's in his blood. So they're just like where do we go first like well Maybe his mom knows they strangle her and say where's the Codex or where's the the ship that he came in on and she looks at the barn And then they jump into the barn break open the ship no codex in there She comes back tell Zod and he goes broad throws a car in a house Okay, please stop Like did you describe for me like what does it look like how big is it? Yeah that fucking first, but like You just arrived the first place you checked didn't show up with the codex. Ah Don No, I guess I'll throw a car at the place that very likely might have the codex in it Would any of these humans know what the codex is by name anyway, yeah Where's the codex I have no idea what that you mean an index like in a book I Have a big old question now So do it when when the government comes along to like fix smallville after it's been destroyed And they find out that a truck has been thrown into a random house in the middle of a field When they are Fixing that house because I assume that Martha doesn't have enough money to rebuild her whole house Are they not going to go into the barn and find that giant spaceship and then Yeah That's a whole other thing we should probably wait until we get printed on that one That's probably the biggest problem with the movie, but I love tossing the fucking card to the house is hilarious Search the house buddy. He's been searching for the codex in this scene for about two minutes and he's already Such great visual effects. Oh, of course The ways this film so fully handles both character and plot to create a worth while That's all future franchise entries should learn Yeah, well, he's only got 18 minutes. He has to repeat Can anyone guess what this third great element of the movie is from the silhouette Close Incredible music no woman with a knife Specifically is the third best part of this element Well, so this is the interesting thing before you even hear whatever this argument is gonna be wouldn't wouldn't you just be like wait? What even was she she was just like a Randy? She was a loser villain Yeah, she because we were talking about this earlier like her she has when she's fight Superman her speeches Oh, you have morality and we don't and that means that we have an evolutionary Like come on come on. Yeah one that's wrong to I am evil. Yeah, there's a lot You have you are you are the good guy. I am the bad guy. Let us now continue to fight now that we have a Someone just put the coin in for every human you say we'll kill a million more like So to read her full quote about reality though This is that you're gonna want to stop me But I say it's just a little longer than you might expect the fact that you have morality and we don't gives us an Evolutionary advantage and if history has proven anything it's that evolution always wins Yeah, I mean Kryptonians one when they blow up their planet. Yeah, what what based evolution you guys Reality our planet blowed up. Kryptonians totally have morality they constantly talk about what they think is the right and wrong decision like what do you mean? What is that? Airband of hooligans specifically and also clearly Clearly Zod has morality because he's really sad that all the Kryptonians are gone Yeah, he's also very angry a lot whatever things that way Also, if we if we pretend that the only creatures that have any semblance of humans and we're doing pretty all right in terms of evolution Where we're doing pretty good. I mean, you know Kryptonians you guys blew yourselves up I feel like we're doing a little better, you know, I guess we haven't traveled across the galaxies for thousands of hundreds of thousands a year So, yeah, look where I got them One planet and all die. I love that comparison. It's like humans are restricted to Kryptonians aren't restricted to any one planet. In fact, any one star system They traveled across them for hundreds of thousands of years, but they lost And then they abandoned that pursuit even though they were overpopulated on their own planet Like we'll get into this more. Yeah. Yeah, the world will building is catastrophic, but I'm gonna save that point for later That's the amazing comment. This is so good DC movies, but I'll have to read this book on psychology first to explain So sick of that it's just like oh before I explain it what's your mind's me sick argument I'm gonna have to cite this book that I've read Guys, I read books So we'll get to that Here's what the DCEU has to learn from Man of Steel's Codex of Purpose Thematic bedrock is is that they lack purpose is the key factor You got to get purpose right in your in your plot character combo up superhero movies I guess and a codex is an ancient manuscript text in book form That's the meme element See the drive be the drive drive Character like it It's like a joke for computers. Yeah, that's what I was about to say like Oh the drive, but it broke Well, maybe he's saying see his character and then it's more specific like a sub title the drive Like see like we've we've done a and B and now we're at C the drive. All right First he'll succeeds at the character side is by giving our hero Clark one central inner drive that the character scenes always revolve around All right, what is the drive? Let's try and guess before he says it Figuring out to understand his identity. Yeah to figure out what he's gonna do in life Why was he sent to earth like why did he land here on earth? Yeah, that was drive it who who is who is people are Because can't be called Clark solo, so you got to find out who his people are and then Figure out what he's gonna do in terms of is he gonna help people or not, right? That's the the things he wants to figure out. He's got a choose find out that he wants to help people. Yeah All right. Yeah, we did it okay, and The basic juice here is that uncrypton people are artificially bred defeat these predetermined roles like leader or soldier or Scientist and so on where's Clark is the person you're going to be a garbage man the finest garbage man ever That's damn good garbage man. I'm the best symbolizes the freedom to find and choose your own role. We've had a child son free to forge his own destiny Oh, he skipped the line where he says a boy child He says a boy child also known as a son, but he's Essentially then makes Clark's inner drive or character goal very simple to find out who he is and figure out his place in the universe And to be clear this isn't plot because there's no external stakes or urgency or anything like that tied to it It's just an internal. Oh, I think a character looking for something is sort of plot Well, yeah, because you could describe it in the synopsis Our hero is looking for meaning in the world looking to find his place in the world Like if you want to get real technical with plot Like it's not just it doesn't become plot once he finds it Well, I guess he's saying that this is nothing to do with plot because Zod is the plot I mean he's faking an identity to be employed at the base where they're discovering this ship and Searching down every lead he can about anomalies in the ice and stuff like that that's plot Towards a goal, you know characters generated a plot line that he's following to get to a goal If he's just sitting on a bus looking at the window going, am I I guess that's not Damn a girl child Will wriggle that affects only Clark and the purpose of the plotless character scenes in the first half of the movie is Explored this one aspect. Why are you doing that? Why are you doing that thing? I think it's a meme, right? Like evanescence is edgy and teenager like that's you supposed to laugh rags do it Praise of the movie With a z I don't know very man of steel. So I have an essence song is a good thing Yeah, is it gonna awkwardly walk around the whole maybe comment about killing children? Oh, I really hope so He's gonna address it head-on. Yeah, just be clear chat. This is a scene where the Clark not Clark Kent Bob Kent John Kent He's like, yeah, he he says maybe you should have let that busload of children drown Just be clear. This is that scene. That's this scene. That's this scene This is the this is the the pickup truck scene the infamous pickup truck scene He is to all explore this one aspect further for example after the krypton prologue We get this scene of young Clark at school which carries no plot purpose whatsoever, but the purpose it does carry is this You should drink more milk. I mean milk Yeah, I mean him shoring his powers sort of but This is probably one of the scenes that's like totally chill with me It's like yeah, I figure it was to show us like he had a rough growing up period because of his powers giving him like a horrible Series of moments and his mom was the one who was there to calm him down and keep him sane, which by the way Fuck this clock Kent Like he doesn't appreciate his parents anywhere near as much as he should Yeah, it's well one question I had when watching the early scenes was like does he just discover these powers at this age? I don't know. I guess the atmosphere finally gets to him Yeah, that was kind of weird to me. It seems like this is the first time this has happened to him Yeah, you think it's why it didn't happen early But like he seems not only use it well, but like fully understand his eye lasers just seconds from now, too Yeah, I'm into it how to use it. I don't know. It's a little strange I guess the idea is that puberty is like when they come in but I don't know When they come what I got them it I didn't want to say it But you thought it you disgusting creature Hey, come. Oh Right the point here is to visually establish to the audience that oh, yeah What's where what's really bad too about having x-ray vision is you can't close your eyes. It won't do anything Hmm, maybe his skin is like lead Usually established to the audience that oh, yeah, Clark doesn't fit the pre-assigned role of a normal human school kid He's just he's just explaining Superman's not normal or one sent us back to 26. Where are we? Oh Just me or is he just explaining the very surface level elements of what's going on in this scene I was gonna say like this seat establishes. He did not have a normal upbringing. It's like. Yeah, yeah Yes, I also watch the movie I know that this is Superman love to see where he goes with it instead Oh, yeah, Clark doesn't fit the pre-assigned role of a normal human school kid Which consequently pushes the progress bar of our main character exploration journey one step further later on We use that it's don't bother Like the whole pre-assigned role of a school kid is like as if anyone fits that That's like the whole problem right now is everyone fucking hates school I don't want to be in school schools for nerds But he's treated like a freak and he's like, you know beating up by those kids But like a lot of people get beaten up by bullies. Yep some point in their life. It's not especially remarkable I mean people like they do you know clock is like you see my role was to become an incredibly handsome and strong superhero And so I was like I added up a dead ease It's nice I'm managed sponsorship right ain't ain't not it not everyone could manage an I hop, but I do it I can do it in their school bus from drowning earlier was Which then consequently makes us realize that oh, yeah because Clark doesn't fit the pre-assigned role of a normal human school Kid he might actually why does he say pre-assigned role of a human? Do things here is he trying to relate it to the Krypton shit with the pre-assigned role I think yes, but so so Krypton is like like a dystopian version of Plato's Republic But that's not what earth is it exploded. Yeah, it's not even it doesn't matter his whole point that So the so the whole point of him being him basically by his parents His parents made him so that he wouldn't be pre-created and all that sort of thing So and then he goes to earth, and I don't do that anyway, so it's it's like not yeah Relevant like I don't really get the distinction because either nobody fits the pre-assigned role Or I mean, you there's nothing to fit you just go to school You know if he was a typical Kryptonian right if he was evolutionary assigned to be a really great fishmonger and He it goes to earth. They don't give a shit about that and they don't know about it, so So like what would happen? He's actually really stressful because he doesn't fit in but he's like the way he's explaining It should be more focused on. Yeah, he's he's not like other humans. That's not that he doesn't fit the pre-assigned role Yeah, it's a weird way to do Providence which then consequently makes us realize that oh, yeah Because Clark doesn't fit the pre-assigned role of a normal human school kid. He might actually get in real trouble Oh, is he gonna say it? Oh Even later this for example No Fucking you get to you kind of like Right we talked about Wicca man references and then just like avoid the baby killed children pot Clark you have to keep deciding yourself a secret see but that like the point of you need to be more careful or whatever It's like you can't couch that right next to yeah Maybe let them die you have this I mean Jonathan Kench be capable of a lot fucking more interesting introspection than that like Sure, you need to do better when protecting your identity and it's like what if I save less people when I do that He'd be like, you know, you should never take that choice, but maybe you should let a bus full of children drown I don't think Fomento is gonna The elephant in the cornfield Even later this for example the sequence of Clark learning to fly which again serves absolutely no purpose in terms of the plot There's no external challenges or obstacles. He's learning how to fly. Whoa. There's no He's trying to learn how to fly the mountain he crashes through When he I mean to be fair, this isn't like furthering the plot of the movie sure But like it's weird to categorize this this way him learning to fly is integral to the plot Yeah, I don't think anyone who doesn't like this movie is saying the scene is unnecessary. They should have cut it Yeah, thank you for thank you for pointing at the only person on screen It's not because he's he's saying that like it's it is important, but it's strictly character not plot I just find that interesting Who's saying it isn't important because it's not I don't think anybody's saying it isn't important Not even him. It's fine Again serves absolutely no purpose in terms of the plot There's no external challenges or obstacles forcing Clark to learn to fly here or else It's just this cool thing. We seem to you don't have to plot doesn't have to force characters to do things Like you can literally have a plot generated from someone being curious to do something that day like yeah Like someone holding a gun to his head Yep, but it's a finger gun rags. They do way more damage It's an air gun it's mind bullets Just gonna pause for safety there. Yeah, I suppose. Yeah. Yeah, I gotta be gotta be careful with these These streams Don't take this movie too seriously. It's a space. It's a movie about space Jesus for children. Yeah Oh But as before the reason this sequence Important is because it serves as the clear next step in our character journey by showing us and Clark Not necessarily fully who he is yet, but rather who he can be and why did you take so long to say he learns how to fly? He's saying that this thing shows that he's learning who he may become or something it's like he's flying He learns how to fly he's fucking it up a little he learns how to fly pretty chill Thus once again pushing that progress bar one step further and with pretty much every plotless scene in the first half This is their purpose for existing to further explore Clark's inner journey of finding his own place in a world See, okay, this is where I really do have to draw the line in this whole plot thing Zod comes because the shit's shit ships Thing activates because he puts the key in it and does all the things because Jonathan can't gave him this and showed Him his ship when he was younger, you know, like these are all things that connect the overall thing of bringing Zod in To call them plotless to me is like We're now to point where I need to know what you mean when you say plot Yeah World in which he knows no pre-determined fit whether it's exploring the question of what issue do Your family not mine. Yeah, that's a Yeah Yeah, yeah Clark's characters kind of like I don't care about him as a character I don't care what happens to him. I don't I just don't care about it. It's kind of an asshole when he walks up to his mom And he's like mom I found my people Okay, that's nice Even says I found my parents. It's like Yeah Act Like the point of that conversation is supposed to be like what really comes of violence is just like I mean We break Zod's neck in the finale to save the day, so That was the point I think the point is like they treat it as if oh if you if you fought back You'd be showing that you're different and that you're powerful and it's like you can punch at a normal speed Yeah, you can just throw a regular human punch Well, and you could learn to stand up for yourself against bullies and all the things that would be good But they treat it as if oh if you fight back at all then they'd know you're an alien monster, so Little light punch back and you know when the guy pulls the beer on him rags was like you could you could push him Yeah, you could like push him give him a little shove. It's just throw them out You're clearly bigger and stronger than him. You're like a normal human regardless of powers. Yeah Yeah, the whole point is that he's like, hey, I think you should go when he's I'm not going Where's the beer on him? Just like throw him out of the bar like a bouncer. Yeah, but instead He avoids the conflict and like like he goes and he like stabs his truck with trees He doesn't it's not heroic at all. It seems like rather like backhanded. It's what you would call unhinged Yeah, you just impale the truck on loads of logs. That's a bit Generate a huge amount of media attention like that shit would be all over the news. This is a yeah, like that's crazy There's no way that he could have done it without people knowing just impossible now they would have heard it It's a truck being impaled with giant with logs Since we're bringing it up. I want to show everyone at first that is what he does I'm kind of an impressive art piece the way he makes it stable Yeah, like I'm quite like it's pretty cool. I could see them building a house around this and it's just something you observe The art department had fun making this scene But um be a clock cannot have done this without the not they were right next to the fucking bar Like there's just no way um, but also look at this guy's reaction Wait, where am I looking on the screen? Okay? What is that? Fucking truck Face like I don't even know Waiting for something to happen Yeah, when we've got to that point the thing has happened You should be reacting to this you almost look Just like a little Little little swing to the side with us like hmm like that's weird instead of like what the fuck has happened to my truck I'll hail the tree truck God Like heads the hands on head like fuck yeah, like my whole life Pattern with the movie too because there's a scene where Superman flies the shit that was buried in ice And he flies it somewhere else so we can have some privacy whatever everyone stands there and watches and no one has Like a very shocked expression It's very just like oh there it goes well Like no one directed these reaction shots. It's just like okay now look Okay, so it flies that way. So just look that way and we got it. All right. Thanks. That's a wrap as um The meme repository that pointed out. I think I think he shows it in the the man of steel coverage, but when Lois is about to die from the thing we're talking more about that later There's this sort of moment where it's like oh god We're heading right down. What do we do and and Superman looks at her through the glass and then decides to punch through But the expression he makes Such a weird I think this is here realizing oh god, he's gonna kill me Especially when he does that Oh It's a weird scene there's more to say all that as we progress though Well, I just want to one last thing about the log scene It's not exactly like a a Chad move to like avoid the confrontation in the moment and then like Destroy his truck when he's not even around Not exactly a heroic way of handling that situation Yeah, it's it's very It it's on yeah, he said it I mean, it's just like a more dramatic wave like oh, he's just keyed his car instead like If you were a super weak scrawny guy and you couldn't have possibly taken him on in any way And you had to get back at him somehow. I was like, okay, I don't understand that but you're Superman. Yeah It's a really weird moment. You watched how to get revenge with Linda Blair From every child was designed to fulfill a predetermined role in our society Then once we get to the midpoint where we have explored the Clark's inner journey quite far the movie finally shifts focus on the plot Which of course? As always is the case in this franchise But the thing you'll notice is that my eyes and ears are confused what yeah my senses, but I think that was Achievement I'm sure he didn't say anything about you But but the thing you'll notice is that even though man of steel does allow the plot to take over It still doesn't just forget about the character side all together But instead now moves to gradually resolve it was the first half was about Clark searching who he is in the universe The second half is all about him having to based on that search finally once and for all choose who he is But the way that the way they informed the way of this decision is Really pathetic though. Yeah, this is one of those like do you want to experience infinite pain for all eternity? Or do you want to have an ice cream? You're like What flavor yeah You know what doesn't matter what flavor just give me the ice cream for reference folks This isn't a choice between Krypton and earth which could have been interesting if you've done that correctly It's it's choice between killing every single person on this planet Or at least most of them from the way that they're gonna approach this and the implicate like they they say to Clark for every One person you say we will kill a billion or some bullshit Then it's him the mountain of skulls that he gets buried by for some reason Thanks, that'll be convincing as an argument You have Superman lives on earth. He grows up on earth. He has parents who are earthlings He has family and friends and all that sort of stuff. He has a job and he knows people This is the only society. He's ever known then Kryptonian show up and they're all fucking comically evil They want to talk about their lack of morality as a plus. So you're like, yeah, hey, but which one Clark choose Gee, I have no idea which one Clark would side with now if the cryptos were super nice and amazing and They they had a whole cool civilization and they were neat and they were so happy to see them And they wanted them to come on back and hey look, okay Muppets and space did this better. All right Space did this better where gonzo decided to know he's searching for his family the whole movie because he's the only gonzo of all the Muppets and there's no one else like him and he finally this the tigger movie did this fucking better than Man and steel All right, this has been done so many times so much better than this it is a failure of this film And it's such a central part of the character quote-unquote decision. It's pathetic Saying you weren't convinced by the part where he was drowning in skulls I mean that what would have got me was like, yeah, those guys are cool I was convinced of that point But when he showed all of the the buildings and everything getting obliterated around Superman that was where I was like, you know, I Can definitely see the benefits here Skulls Muppets and tigger expert Probably a Barbie movie where she well that's some hold up That's uh, oh There's gotta be one like that where she decides to be with like her true family or whatever like that because that's such a common thing Oh and have to look back and find out I think at the end of princess and the popper the popper Barbie Has the opportunity no, I think she takes it never never mind. That's not a good analogy. I'll get back to you The most charitable way of interpreting this choice is a group of people who want to genocide all of humanity to terraform the planet or Humanity which might be a little freaked out at the fact that you're an alien That's the choice. I mean if we bring it all the way down the lowest scale possible You're just sitting there and your two friends are arguing one of them is like you can live in my house with me And the other one says no, I'm going to kill you and take your house and make it shit and then live in it And like you're you're the person who decides I'd be like, I mean dude the other ones offering you to live with him And it's a nice house. Why do you have to destroy the house to live at it? What the fuck? That's a whole nother thing whether Zod should even bother terraforming the planet. Yeah all the references we have are Clock is used to earth atmosphere because he's lived here his whole life You're like, okay was it was fine like the reason I'm gonna set this is because nothing makes any sense, right? So first of all if you're a Kryptonian alien he person wherever you've been for a while you can adapt to like, okay? He goes on their ship and he starts coughing blood and they tell him He's never gonna be able to be as strong as Superman while on that ship and that's why they can hold him down however Jor-El is released and he changes the atmosphere on the ship to earth atmosphere. That's why he gets his strength back. There's more Bullshit to that we're gonna ignore it for a second All of the enemies are on earth with their atmospherisms and that allows them to Have access to super strength still because apparently that's just something they have in general even though it was Stated like in the beginning the by going to earth. He's gonna become super strong They are also super strong. It's like, huh? So you remember when Jor-El kills a whole bunch of Zod's men in the beginning Yeah, like how the fuck Like what they have like a normal human fights when these people are super creatures that can like tank fucking missiles Like how I just don't get how any of this works Because the armor is as strong there as it would be here and the armor is clearly incredibly strong free The armor deflects Superman's lasers not even the Kryptonian ships can do that Well, they save they save the good stuff for the body armor, which by the way, that's a complete reverse Amanda Well, no way But then of course on top of all of that you take the breathing masks off of people like Zod and it takes them about 10 minutes At most and they're as powerful as Superman So yeah, Russell Crowe. What's this character's name? Jor-El. Jor-El Jor-El he says specifically that the atmosphere on Krypton is harsher than earth So why on earth would you tarot for? He says that from his perspective he thinks he's saying that it's harsher for Krypton's The atmosphere on Krypton is harsher for Krypton's than it is on earth. So why on earth would you terraform it? You get superpowers on this goddamn planet. Yeah, but it's but it's inconvenient for 20 minutes Because of course Zod and the only other one I think vaguely is the girl like they vaguely start They're the two that start experiencing benefits from that's why Zod is like a almost unstoppable in the final fight He's like he's got full into the earth's benefits And you start to wonder if the atmosphere is better and you get superpowers Why in the world would you want to terraform earth? You like destroy all of it The big important part to note is that the superpowers are from the Sun specifically not But at the same time that means that you don't need to terraform it Like why you can't live on those superpowers have to come from yeah arc is proof of that Remember the Sun is hitting them for ages before they get the powers Yeah, no, I know The atmospherics is what is changed by those masks But they're wearing the other wearing the the suits and everything without the masks So maybe only their faces of superpowers like they have really good taste and smell I don't know like Zod takes off his mask. It takes like 10 seconds for him to chill out You know as John Bishop just reminded me. There's a quote where he says Would you like do you honestly expect us to endure years of pain like your son did to get used to the atmospherics? Like Zod gets used to it in fucking minutes. He's lying. Yeah. Yeah Clark went into a closet for a while and was all right. So Oh People in the comments are saying in the comics, it's the Sun but that the film kind of changes Well, the flip-flops. Yeah, because they're in the Sun for a while It's only once they start having to breathe earth's atmosphere that they start to experience the X revision and shit But but then if you I guess that's what I mean, right? If it's the Sun then there's no reason to terraform the planet and if it's earth then terraforming the planet will cause you to lose Your powers so either way it doesn't work terraforming is dumb It's a completely Nonsensical plot element that makes it's it's fucking bonker nonsense That's just there so that we have stakes for the earth being fucking destroyed or and it makes our villain incredibly stupid So for anybody who's confused like we're not mentioning at all the comics I know that it's gonna work completely different in the comics or at least it works You know, it actually works in the comics. It doesn't in this film is the point But yeah, you see this visual that is what Zod is trying to convince Superman with You fucking kidding me Zod has been touted as one of like best villains in the DCU. I don't even think he deserves that embarrassing title Yeah Like any of to stand on a Yeah, how much do you know we we've talked about this right or have we how was he able to make these visuals? We don't know we we have to assume it's Kryptonian mind hallucination Yeah They have a special hologram Do this or something? I don't you would think you would think he would try to convince him by downplaying the genocide He wouldn't even remember. He doesn't have a sense of morality. So what even is this image? Even pragmatically you just like well, he has something I want so I should give it to me and Instead like instead of just telling him hey, you have something that we need could we have it? He's like he goes on this this long-winded diatribe about destroying the earth and Yeah, like We needed another character called flunk that he was Just If we show this is an easy choice, come on Constantly giving me the wrong information Monk goes up to Zod. He's like maybe you just ask him for it. Like no I will find him And yeah, I think the film would have been way better if Zod were way more agreeable and Intelligent but you find out his ultimate goal is Krypton's over earthlings, which would be perfectly reasonable Remember while we're talking about great character writing in dialogue You remember at the end of the film when he's about to fight superman He literally says you've taken my soul I Think it's a weird to he says something like my soul that Michael Shannon did good. He certainly emoted Oh my god, did I just scan directly to it? Holy shit? Oh No, just a head damn, I want to play it for this Yeah, I got to play both of those clips not we mentioned them. Okay, so here's number one I will find him I like the drums coming Now I need to find the farm Like if their goal is to destroy humans, they've only got one check So what well remember because by that point Superman had already this is why the final choice doesn't mean anything He's already destroyed the chance of Krypton ever existing again. He blew up the ship It's over like Yeah, and since you've just mentioned that can we talk about briefly how fucking disappointing it was the clocks line Before deciding to save humanity was yeah, Krypton had his chance Like that's not even the superman it's like like if you're Krypton's fault, it's this guy Like he's missed the point completely if you're supposed to be like attached to Krypton or something That doesn't sound like a very nice thing to say. Yeah Yeah, we're trying to go for that angle It like like it's possibly my most hated line in the whole movie because it really tells you exactly who he is like Uh at the core of this Superman Like fuck off Krypton. You had your shots, dude That was like your mom and dad and there's plenty of good people I feel like superman missed the point of his own movie Was bred to be a warrior pay attention to his own Christ-like imagery All right, I'm gonna play it. I'm gonna play it cleanly now. We just needed this one to Trained my entire life Master my senses It takes so long copyright. You just let me play one minute scenes YouTube it'd be funny Isn't that a good enough reason? I think that's good enough Yeah, that's a pretty good pose, too This is a guy who is ready to bat What's the dillio Zod watch I am no corn Farm born they are the disgusting Yeah, so when you have an actor like Michael Shannon who is capable of being very very good This is all the director's fault And the dialogue or whoever wrote it whatever it is some combination of all that I wish I was trained on a farm Anyway, it's an unmoldable occasions. He does Oh, whoa, that guy's so dead I like how Superman choosing to prevent a human being from splattering his organs across the floor is considered an interesting choice It's not a choice. Isn't it like obvious this what I mean I don't I didn't detect this as being like wow This is so character driven and like I understand how it tells you what his character is But I never thought this was out of the realm of Superman's character to begin with Yeah, I this is to like can I save someone it like through no effort on my part in total safety He's so dead I That guy dies immediately afterwards because the Kryptonians right there We've already been shown several times in the flashbacks that he chooses to do the good thing, you know, like yeah, we're The idea there at that point in the film I was supposed to be like will clock save that man or not like Yeah, before he saved him. It was in doubt whether or not Superman would try and save however If we're gonna do this right if we're gonna say every individual decision for him to save someone is Characterization then you have to concede every time he doesn't save someone or put someone in danger. That is a decision on his part, too Right. So when he crashes that spaceship through seven buildings, you know When he tackles Zod into a parking garage when he tackles him into an IHOP when he tackles him into a grocery store When he flies up into space and like then they make that Wayne Satellite crash into earth and all of the debris rays on people, you know Well, there's an interesting one. I think I was bringing up when in the call before we started up. So you got um, I Don't know what the jets they're coming in to to blast all of the Kryptonians and Superman fighting now They were having their face off on the street, but they start firing before so Superman as you can see him here He just zooms off to the side. He'll be fine Superman, right? And then now I'm gonna play it without showing it on stream for the for obvious reasons One three two two five is when he sped off to the side Well And that's the thing we do. I'm doing a real time for the movie But well real time for the actual like time code who knows how long it was actually a movie time But uh, yeah, the bullets hit the Kryptonians and they got a little annoyed and then this dude here I'm like the big man. He jumps on to one of the jets tears it to shreds And you know as an audience man be like, oh my god, this perfectly sets just how horrifying these dudes are We got to be real careful But we're already coming up to 20 seconds since we lost so Superman. Where is he? What's he doing? Like hello people are getting ripped here. Yeah, like you're you're here, right in this town This town is one street knit surely you can't get lost and if anyone wanted to be like well I guess he's out of commission. It's like well I doubt it because they attacked the next jet straight after and Superman saves it from him It's like the fuck bro And at this point you just have to conclude. Yes, Superman's just a little incompetent sauce Remember how when he tackled Zod, you know when he was saving Martha and then he he tackles him through a petrol station and blows that all up. Yeah Yeah, these are things so like the best apologetics you can get is the oh, it's all an accident. It's like, I don't think that's how this works No, not when he has a gun or punching and just throwing and now I'm gonna I'm just playing the scene for everybody It's about to fucking drive Zod through like he took him here. Like why did you do this? So man is grossly negligent Yeah, so if you wanted to argue like you see he's choosing to save people So he's also choosing to absolutely endanger the shit out of people. I don't know what that tells us about him exactly Nothing good. Mmm. Nothing heroic Tony and even though he was born on Krypton He doesn't view himself as human even though he grew up on earth. He doesn't which is bizarre I think that's the most part of the movie. I think yeah One of the things that bugs me the most about this interpretation of Superman making him Like the whole idea is that he is a human being That's kind of like the gist of it. I don't basically adapt to she could do whatever you want, but I don't like it It's it's really bad really bad move It goes beyond just the adaptation argument because I don't think it makes sense in the context of this movie With the Krypton's Kryptonians, so I don't think we're given any reason for him to you telling me that he grew up Exclusively with two human parents in a normal human life except he has powers 30 years I like I just don't really fit in and earth. It's like you mean But you do though you totally do Yeah, everyone treats you just like you're like you're a human like you're you're one of them We didn't really get what I would call the the content on that side of his Development I would say and the only Kryptonians he meets in person who are actually who actually exist our genocide of lunatics So you think it would be pretty easy Yeah, you think he'd see you think he'd be very Outspoken about how no, I'm not one of you. I'm a I'm a I'm hurt or I'm an earthling. These are my people very very Openly and very early in the movie too someone brought up like he is new to this Like it doesn't matter if you knew when you're driving him He drives him into these buildings like you have a choice of where you're gonna fly. Yeah He clearly brings him down here deliberately So I don't even like this whole time you can try and think about what his decisions are and then he takes him You know what fight in the cornfield go for it Fight the cornfield But to take him out of the cornfield Probably not a great idea. Yeah And when we're not even talking about the whole city fucking shit at the end Yeah, dude even age of Ultron for as crap as it was tries to address the whole idea of Saving civilians well shut up MCU shill and They go well out of their way in that movie to try to imagine someone was in that car that just blew up Yeah, someone probably was honestly Yeah Mom I'll be back from getting gas any moment now Just a little later and there's theories about it being ADR So mad says get inside like be safe get inside. It's not safe out here It's like you droves on buildings. Like why would it be safe to be in buildings? Now that I've just got that idea on my head of um, you know, like just the opening scene of Batman v Superman Is that kid whose mom got blown up? And he's watching the news report that it plays that like Oh So it's got a beam of Kylo Reds a most Smith. Where did you train? No where? It's that help your way. It would make sense. I like it But yeah, this is the carnage in this movie cannot be understated and I already know there's defenses I'm aware of this just like hey, it's his opening outing. Okay. You can't get everything right Which it's good I can understand a couple of mishaps here and there, but he loves a fucking whole city Hey, you know, let me let me create this completely You know random scenario in my head that I definitely aren't inspired by anything else Someone's got something that's about to detonate and kill a bunch of people They push it away from a crowd and into another smaller crowd and they Look at the disaster that they've accidentally caused when trying to save their friends and the people around them You know what movie did that? They call it Captain America 3 the war of the civil. Yeah. Oh, that really bad one All right, Phil Mendo, what else you got Doesn't view himself as human even though he grew up on earth He doesn't place himself in a signed role, but instead based on what plays it, you're not no It's not that you're pre-assigned. It's that I grew up on earth My parents are earthlings all the people I know are earthlings I am that their culture is my culture. It's the only life that I've ever known is not that you've like been pre Whatever to do this like no, that's a result of what happens. It's the it's the opposite of prescription It's not like his life of what happens It's not like his life on earth is pre-conscribed into certain roles because that's not how earth works This isn't like a coming-of-age story where he it's like a young adult fiction where like He's in some dystopian society that like everyone is born to their certain roles But he wants to be different like he's the emoji in the emoji movie like he's on earth Like he already has freedom to make his own way and he chooses Not earth He doesn't choose humanity until later because he's an idiot I'm gonna choose to work here and go there and do this and have these things So like he's constantly making like the life decisions because he's living on earth as a person Very bizarre. Is he trying to say that because of Jor-El sending him here? But he was sent here to make his own destiny, but they like well, what if his destiny was make his own destiny? At this point, it's just not even worth discussing He plays himself in any pre-assigned role, but instead based on what he's learned so far chooses to form his own He wants both worlds to prosper, but he We never get to explore that Yeah, none of this is the movie This conversation on a prosper. There should have been the conversation where he's like Krypton deserves another chance But it can't be at the cost of earth like yeah, we need to You need to accept that the earthlings are like, you know They are your earth is your new home earth is your new Krypton and then you can try and create something where he's like Kryptonians shouldn't I don't know how how much of an idiot we have to make Zod to make this work He's already an idiot. That's the problem like this conversation needs to happen where they actually address the core issue Which is earth or Krypton and you have to choose one and you have to make it so the Krypton is an actual good prospect Yeah, it's actually a feeling choice. Yeah Then you can talk about her Yeah, give us something You're gonna have to make it like an actual choice Because there's an obvious correct answer here because he's about to show the scene where Clark so to give you a timeline of events It's just so fucking nuts without adding criticisms. Just what happened. You have Zod invites Superman onto the ship at the cut he says Otherwise for if you don't then the world will suffer. That's what he says So Superman's like, okay, I'm coming on board Then he tricks him with the atmospherics and takes away all of his powers ties him up and takes a blood sample and says I'm gonna take the whole world lull Superman breaks out through some crazy shit that we're gonna get to and then he destroys one of the world engines after he fights a CGI snake Thing and then he arrives at Zod ship that has the big genetic room filled with the embryos breaks into the ship Starts up his lasers and Zod says if you destroy this ship, you'll destroy Krypton And it's just like motherfucker making that claim after everything you've just put Superman through like yeah Yeah, it's it's baffling and he's such a bad character We get trying to appeal to Krypton after everything you've done asshole Wait, I have a someone brought up a funny question in chat is Krypton waging war on earth Aries's fault. How does that work? Oh, yeah, it's very true. Aries got exploded though Yeah, he got love beamed in the chest Dialogue wise was him saying no love my only weakness. I Know they call that one rags that one was in there. They nailed that one. I just meant, you know, I need a bit more I'm gonna fuck you up We will not let one do so at the cost of the other which is where the emotion of the plot comes There is no emotion. Don't do that properly. I'm sorry You're giving credit where it's not do the idea that it was a choice between Krypton and earth is never in any way leveled out It doesn't make any sense at all as a choice It's laugh. It is actually worse for the Kryptonians to choose Krypton How did you even do that like how did you write it so that the people whose planet they want back? Wouldn't have wanted it with everything we understand You Well, maybe you shouldn't have kidnapped me took my powers took my blood tried to kill all of my people and destroy my planet Maybe you shouldn't have done all of those things. Maybe you should have asked Fucking hell like can I have the thing I need to save our people? Oh, yeah. Oh, you're doing awesome If that's oh, all right If this all happened before Aries had been killed and Aries is like for some reason like not cool with Kryptonians They're like ruining his whole plan with humans. And so he actually comes in and stops battling Zod like fuck off get out of my planet. I Wanted to kill them all He's like, oh you're destroying them all. No, you're terraforming it. Ew. I don't like this I like this one shit What a terrible line crypt on what a horrifically bad line That's not the issue super man It's like that's that's kind of an asshole thing to say. What was his name flunk? Yeah, he needs to just pop up in these. Oh my god, the Polish scream for Superman. It was kind of terrifying You You could there's so many lines that work so well We've already had one of some of the top comments on the the unlisted Man of steel copyrighted now. We can't view it. I'm think those people are suggesting better lines It's like literally many things. I don't say all many things would have been better and I just I don't know what they were thinking An unsung hero in this journey, he also has to be drawn with a lump on his head Massive brain The flunk brain That's how he writes his name in signature. It doesn't look quite right, but you can kind of see that it says flunk Yeah, I like how his leg is disconnected There you go, it's fixed For all flunk DCEU should keep it mine. Oh shit. We skip. Oh my goodness Essentially what the DCEU should keep in mind about the character side going forward when you have scenes not driven by plot Make sure those scenes always Explore your heroes in a journey I didn't even notice they did it a couple of times in the movies. It's definitely handheld I'm pretty sure I mentioned that in our recording as well. Yeah, I don't think there's a locked-off shot in the whole movie I think it's all held You might make sure those scenes always further explore your heroes in her journey of want and struggle because like what I'm standing And I'm looking at something. I don't have like the palsy or something And I'm just like Intensity ranks intensity This is a very intense scene. Yeah, it's reveal in a suit. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's intense You believe by the way if humanity hadn't found this fucking ship like he wouldn't even have his superman outfit. I Don't know. It's so weird to me that like how everything worked The ship is just there and he humans spotted it one day and he overheard a conversation about it Fuck the plot. It's so bad It's not proven by plot make sure those scenes always further explore your heroes in her journey of want and struggle And when you finally ramp up, wait, so if it's not about the plot, it's gotta be about character What if it's about the wheel building? There's a cub It's it's the the point is whether it's executed well or not like yeah Shouldn't that be obvious at this point like do it well and it's fine Not every scene needs to further the literal plot if it's executed Well, if it's if it's communicating something in terms of world building or you know Whatever it is as long as it's done well the sort of fundamental people usually appeal to is that your scene needs to give you some form of piece of information that either Commits to a payoff or builds to a pay off. There needs to be something. Well, why sorry could you have paid that again? So if like the fundamental people usually appeal to is that the scene has to achieve something in terms of new Informational useful information and that's going to be in relation to paying them something awful leading to payoffs Yeah, that's generally though I think that um you could have stuff I think I think the people tend to very rigidly like one of the most common and Incorrect pieces of writing advice is that if it doesn't advance the plot cut it It's like well, what if it's advancing the character or the theme or the world? Well, like I'm even in favor of you can have stuff that's point is to Not have a point in this necessarily or something that could be it really depends on execution Yeah, when I want to appeal to Tarantino's character in reservoir dogs ranting about Madonna and then the conversation about tipping like that doesn't further plot But it's interesting and you learn a lot about character. This is character. So that counts You got to find something that doesn't further character plot world building theme anything at all But then argue why it should be kept in But all this is a joke Like literally some other joke you movies that have scenes that don't further anything I feel like the point is that they don't do it well not that they don't do it I guess that scene of just having Steve Trevor seal that modern-day stuff isn't like advancing anything really I Mean you could call it character stuff, but the point is that I guess I guess in my opinion I don't know Yeah, no, I'm not sure either Since always further explore your hero's inner journey of want and struggle and when you finally ramp up the plot toward the end Don't just forget about that character journey, but instead force your own journey Oh my god, the advice when you get to the point where your plot is ramping up. Don't forget about your characters. It's like Yeah Yeah, just just shorten it. Don't forget about your characters. Don't forget about things that matter. Yeah, I forget about anything That's important. Don't forget. I think maybe he's right Maybe we should be advising this because all we get these days like hey guys You have characters in your movie by the way, you don't need to just have things explode It's like hmm. Yeah based on what those characters are I don't inform what they actually do and what they do is the plot So funny as well because he's obviously appealing to like how we keep with clock in this ending So when he decides to destroy Zod ship, that's like a culmination of all of what we've learned in this film about his It's like no no no he does the obvious thing There's no other journey choice to make that would be reasonable like what what Benefit is that a clock for him to not destroy that ship remember the world building? Sorry world engine has been destroyed at that point So, you know what actually? If the world engine is destroyed, which means the atmosphere of earth can no longer be fucked with by Zod But he's also got all of the embryos on that ship and then the clock has the codex technically speaking You could now appeal to Zod being like the will gendern just fucked So can you please land this ship and we can talk about what can happen with Krypton or Kryptonians? But instead he's like no Krypton had his chance So yeah, I don't know that's kind of funny to think about actually Yeah, you know at the end of at the end of treasure planet you have long john silver cyborg and he's holding on to the ship full of treasure and Jim is down below and he needs some help where he's gonna die and Silver looks at the ship full of treasure, which is what he's been looking at the whole movie Then he looks at Jim and then the treasure in the gym that he finally decides to save Jim spoilers like this is Like basic shit. Mm-hmm. You had give me a reason to care about a decision that characters are making And in a movie of this budget in this scale, you think that the basics the they'd nail Remember I'm the roof I guess a reverse of that would be when Benny chooses the money The bubby what Benny Benny keeps trying to get more more jewels and golden shit and then it eventually costs his life because he's not worrying about what's important and I mean in the other joints and stuff this several times right away like Tara what was her name and last crusade or each and for the for the Holy yeah, Elsa's And he's like come on stop it like and uh in crystal skull Oh Then she falls and then Indy's in the same spot and then his dad's like let it go Indy Just I'm just not thinking about this because it kind of I haven't even thought about the fact that like yeah All the embryos are on that ship because you see them pour out and it's just like wait Why did Superman destroy all of them? They have their chance Did his Superman like did he commit like super abortion look I got the image up That's the the embryo. That's the embryo tank it like explodes and all of it pulls out I'm guessing this is the juice that ends up making doomsday It might be actually oh my god, that's the doom. It's the doom Look at this high res doom juice I can that's a good question why he would destroy all that because like They're not the ones trying to genocide go here we go again. The pods are empty. Okay, so They're empty. Okay. Does he know that does he know how this works? I don't fucking care the codex, right? It allows them to grow people in these pods So destroying the pods is effectively Genocide in cryptons. So Kryptonians. Okay, do you understand? It's like swallowing come just got to connect those two thoughts, you know don't want to hurt your brain too hard there Yeah, all the pods get fucked by Superman and I'm starting to think There was an actual interesting choice here, but nobody realized it in this film being World engines destroyed. We've got a couple of Kryptonians left. Yes, they're angry assholes But they can't terraform the world anymore. So now can we actually have the conversation of can we live together? Is that possible Zod you cunt? That's so bad. Yeah, well, like I said, the actual drama would put it was potentially there, but they just never did it Yeah, this new wrote it was um Well, you know this new role is other ones character journey the embryos had their chance Instead force your hero to overcome the external plot obstacles by choosing the resolution for it Choosing the resolution for oh god So dramatically it must have been a really yeah, I like how he's got all these little boxes here as if he's built up a point But he hasn't yeah, this is a very empty video. The point is fully loaded have characters like yeah Thanks. Whoa Don't forget your character development later in the movie Okay, does he not think of the same speed each eye links at a different speed So if you catch it at the right time you catch the driver Pea the driver plot the driver See so we gotta see The drive and the plot is the driver. Don't you think there was a better way to full? No, that's the opposite formatting. Yeah, surely that's surely he got those reversed Yeah, surely it's the driver of the plot the plot is the drive Surely I think you're right. He surely got that mixed up if I was to Eyeball it I would have assumed it would be the reverse that the driver would be the person and then the drive is the external ship Yeah, or what comes from within them as a result of the you know like the drive between a and b and you're the driver See the drive be the driver. Yeah, I feel like you can if he's doing the meme of like how c drives Well, now I don't think that is what he means Secondly the way men are still succeeds at the plot side is by establishing an external scenario that features all the required components of a functional plot Oh, all the required components of a functional plot. Let's see what they are urgency goals stakes and urgency Urgency is the stakes though Yeah, I feel like s and u are Just um the same Okay, we split maybe it's like like the the urgency is how staky the stakes are I suppose Well, if you have, you know, good guy fights bad guy goal kill bad guy stakes You both have x amount of power agency. The whole room is falling apart within the next few minutes Um, what oh my goodness middle. I agree entirely Yeah Very tiny helicopter. Yeah middle your mic is all tis me What i'm not even doing anything it just went Yeah, we're like There was nothing in here like I didn't even touch the microphone. I don't know I don't know if you need to unplug and plug it back in or something. Yeah, give the old plug an unplug Stop farting stop That is a weird fart if it's he's german's what Comes out sounding like an Apache helicopter All right. Well while he's doing that It's a beck. Are we fine now? I think we're all right now. I think so. Yeah I thought I didn't even touch the microphone. Didn't adjust anything. I don't know Wow else are fucking everything up. Geez on purpose too. So you have clear gold stakes and urgency Stakes and Even though the main plot here does go through a couple shifts in the process The central crux of it is arrives to earth in order to well Krypton lives again. What happens to earth the foundation has to be built on something So that's what he says the foundation has to be built on scowls and death, but What does like how does anyone watch this and not laugh at how fucking sweet it is Yeah, I was like, oh, you're clearly the evil person here. Well, I think somebody might be like, well, yeah and you're like But saw it doesn't see himself like that. Surely If saw it is just when acting intelligently, he's not going to show Clark this I almost want to like he's going to be like, no, I just need the I just need the codex for you Can can we have that I want a little piece of paper with a desk and a little crayon and I'll be like, okay You care about your people You are going to kill all of my people to get your people. Do you see where I might have an issue Much in the same way that you have an issue And he's just like, huh? No, I thought I'd convince you by showing you the skulls. I'm confused And I thought I would convince you by uh having something drag you into the skulls while That was an interesting choice. Yeah Ignore the skulls Yeah, ignore the skulls. They're totally coincidental I like how all of the imagery it's like so one of the destroyed things a playgrounds like swing set um a farm Which is where he's from in a house. Why did you think these would work dead children and farms? All right It reminds me of the mom in hillhouse trying to drag luke into the grave You said that on the e-found movies as well spoilers Everyone's gonna know I also like that's what you think I don't know what zaks not as deal is but he seems to really like the black superman suit I don't understand. Oh, yeah, we're getting that inside a cut, right? Yes. Yeah Right zad is here to upgrade or I guess to us downgrade no to him No, it's downgrade to everyone. It's downgrading to everybody crypt. Look at it. Look crypt on shit and it exploded So like don't don't do that Listen to what everyone says in the movie crypt on is just worse And he says the reason they're gonna commit to the worst one is because they won't be a painful upbringing Which is bullshit because you guys get to be superheroes And babies cry anyway, so fuck it. Yeah, look clock did fine. You just got to be careful with them, all right And I will gladly suffer through 20 minutes of whatever that is to get mega super flight laser beam Oh mega strength powers. Oh, yeah, not even not even close and if someone made that decision for me I'd be like, all right. I guess well, you know, oh, we haven't even covered someone's like terraform a different planet Oh, we haven't oh Oh, the fucking world building for the kryptonians. We'll get there even getting into that mess There's so much to talk about the I don't know where we'll fit that in but we'll get there to a new Crypt and just by that external scenario alone. We already have all the plot components built in Okay, true, but it's all built on matchsticks So what do I give a fuck like all of it makes no sense all of everyone's choices and all the mechanics. They're all bullshit But yes You know, there's a giant fucking laser. It's gonna destroy the world. We got to stop it. It's like, yeah, okay So you see this is what I mean about this style of criticism Like we've got the goals the stakes in the agency. It's like yes, but they're all terribly written Mm-hmm, but they're there so that means it's good that means The stakes they're there. Well, you know how he said, um He said underwater is like crap I'd be like goal get out of the mariana trench stakes You could die at any moment if things go wrong agency the the whole station is falling apart. Oh, I guess underwater is great We did it You know, I made a they made a cheap italian knock off of underwater where they have to escape the marinara's trench Yeah Yeah, I feel like this isn't enough we need to talk about the specifics to see if they did it well because applying goal stakes in agency I don't even know if there's a film that you can't apply those to There a story that doesn't have Goal stakes in agency if you're being generous in terms of how it's everything's flowing I mean you have to like like you have to have a plot a plot is it's like an emergent property of just Events. Yeah, you can't not have a plot even if it's if a chair sitting in a room There's a plot. It's a chair sitting in a room I don't know that might be where the limit is for me because I was about to say like Yeah, I like sitting in the chair in the room. Nothing happens to it Well, I guess if it's if it's a two-hour movie of just a chair in a room Just that Yeah, how would you how would you synopsize that on the back of the disc or the cover? There's a chair in a room It represents stability. What will happen find out Yeah, I would have Yeah, it's like a a chair continues to remain where it has it has been erected inside of a A root because I because I say erected because I imagine a folding chair Like someone just brought in a folding chair and you know They opened it up to sound they make and they put it down on the Ground there and they just filmed it for two hours. And so the plot is The chair Smashing the dog of a farmer's head What did where did you learn to be a chair on a folding table? Yeah, that's right. Oh the folding table The goal we're doing a stopping zots machine. Okay, you really gonna just Like ahead of time the goal is to stop the stakes. Earth is at stake urgency You have a ticking clock on the world engine. Like, yeah, I know. Why is this special? Yeah, how did we get here The stakes or why we have to do it is all the lives on earth that we can attach to on our character journey No, I don't not attach to anyone except for ginger kid No, you're talking about the details Under what has all three of these things You got to stop talking about the details. That's not what we're focusing on We just have to establish there are stakes through people might die the area stakes Oh my goodness. I feel like a lot of films will pass this test. It's gonna be honest with you This is a video with it. It has film perfection in the title and he's describing that there is a goal Are there is a goal? The film perfection this film has a plot It's a very low bar except it's if it's a ripoff of alien then it doesn't meet that bar for some reason those films particularly They don't have gsu Is I mean it's mostly color right now These three components serve as the external driving force behind the second half of the film And they are the thing that makes everything we do. Why does he take so long to say? Yeah, this is the second half of film It's just this Yeah, this is e-fap telling him to hurry the fuck up Like he uses a lot of words to describe because he just did the he told you that zod has to be stopped Because he might kill a bunch of people and it's got to be right now And that is what the second half of the film is. That's what he's telling you and I want you to listen to the words He uses We got attached to on our character journey the urgency or when it has to be done is I mean it's mostly color right now These three components serve as the external driving force behind the second half of the film Do you understand what I'm trying to tell you? Do you understand the point I'm making here? Jesus Christ, mate. I I get I get lost when he talks like my mind my mind wanders away like I can't I can't there's nothing It's like I've fallen in a river But it's not it's not a swift river and it's not like No, no, it's just like I don't care about grabbing onto anything It's like I've fallen and I get it's like a lazy river at a theme park And I'm just like I don't have anything to do so I guess I'll just go around in circles for a while and not grab onto anything That's what it's like to listen to this Zod Zod was a species supremacist. Why do you guys think he would settle on living with humans? That should have been the drama Yeah, we never got it. Yeah. Yeah, we never talk about this Sorry that that's not in the film when you wanted it to be because it ain't Yeah, it's not in the film And makes everything we do in the second half serve a clear functional purpose in one clear all he said is we have to beat zod That's all he said Jesus or another now could the plot in execution have been better than just another blue skybeam threatening the whole world Yes, that's not even where Mike if you lie. Yes, I don't fucking care about this guy. It could have been better But yes, thank you for asking. But yes, it could have been a lot better If he's gonna say yes, I'm really curious how this becomes film perfection Yes, but at the same time I'll concede that it does still do the job to earn its purpose I think we have different definitions of the word like it could have it could have been flawless, but it could have been flawless in a better way Oh, right. I see I mean, I guess that makes sense Right if if perfection is without flaws, you could have done something else That was more satisfying but also without flaws So do you mean like like if a story was perfectly functional, but it could have been improved But it doesn't mean it's not perfectly functional. Yeah, like um, like, you know how they rate dives in the olympics Right, so for those of you don't know, I'm not a diving expert Um, I don't know every dive in town. However um Based on like the difficulty of the dive that you're doing It's like your max score So you could like I think you could dive you can make an easy dive perfectly But you could only get so high But you could also do a different more difficult dive and if you do that perfectly your score will be much higher Which by the way, I I think that's how it works the two comparisons I would actually sub in as films would be 12 angry men versus lord the rings like That is a the first one is a simple relatively simple dive done perfectly The second one is a very complicated dive done pretty damn well There we go. We did it. We saw film. Yeah, we did it We're the analogy kings and queens Still do the job to earn its purpose of existence, especially when you pair it up with the Purpose of existence that's kind of redundant. I don't like the way he writes his scripts. They annoy me Are you sure he even writes his scripts because later? I mean, he said vanity earlier When he meant futility Like he's Freewheeling. Yeah, if he was looking at a script, he wouldn't see the word futility and say vanity for whatever reason I'll let or maybe I feel like uh, the more fundamental thing for me because like I'm glazing over here And it's just because this whole video don't start directionless Uh, I guess uh Yeah, like I'm turning into a donut as I sit here because I'm just like It just feels like we're going in circles and like we're not getting anywhere and it's rudderless and Like I don't I don't know what doesn't have a rudder. Well, I can help you bring your case I'm a donut that's growing down A river. All right. It's a donut that's going kayaking and the rapids are just getting too fast And we're losing track of where we're going This video is a soggy donut Donut for you had his chance. This video is a soggy donut without a rudder. Yes Um, it's probably going to be people drawing you as a donut now, but um Well, that's Yeah, I see I see people are noticing that it's dough like no Get on it get on it guys to make sure because I want to make sure everyone's Following is the he's described that there is a plot and it functions That's where we're at in the video He said I feel like I yeah, okay. He said it a longer way, but still Someone in saying that zahd is clearly a supremacist. You don't need them telling the audience for it to be obvious No, they never have that conversation. No, they never. Yeah, they never even bring it up So the idea that because I maybe we agree with this comment to yes Zahd does indeed act completely villainous and gets defeated because of his crazy villainous plans He never thinks through anything whatsoever If he had said I refuse to live with human scum Um, and then claude said that that's the only way krypton's ever gonna live again That would be rebel scum. That would be a really interesting fucking conversation to hear, but we never get it He doesn't say that I don't want any humans here for kryptonians to thrive He says I don't want to deal with 20 minutes of pain or whatever. Yeah, that's what he says That's the point not that there are humans here That's just to terraform earth. You have to kill the humans and oh, well, you have to break a few eggs and make an omelet That's his point gotta be built on. So he doesn't say when superman is like, what's it gonna cost? He doesn't say, you know, uh Of course, it'll cost the human pestilence. They'll be fucking erased. That's good. He says well, you know, it's gotta be built on something As if to say oh, yeah humans have to die Yeah Yeah, that's what he says. He doesn't say, oh these humans scum. They're inferior and I am superior Like claude, why are you gonna fuck with these humans? They're terrible. They're the worst The species is redundant even though we're about as good as them when we don't have their atmosphere Yeah, so weird. Yeah, that wouldn't make sense either But at least it would go some way to explaining his motivations, but he doesn't even say that that's basic stuff The movie doesn't even do it Still earn its purpose of existence, especially when you pair it up. It earns its purpose of existence Yeah, that's about the blue laser Earns its purpose I already forgot what he said earlier. What is this? I'm some of you God it really frustrates me when we listen to these like videos and just the writing is so bad Like I'm not even just the poison of being made but just the way that the sentences are constructed They're just so broken It's like an AI generated script For a long time making videos in the video essay like genre category. It's like a pass for how good your script is already It's like well, you you're you're making video essays. So your script is probably pretty good Like wait, what? No, I would hope so But but this didn't get re-drafted that's for sure. No, it didn't even get re-edited I was about to say of course it did because he fucking cracks his mistakes with text The blue sky being threatening the whole world. Yes, but at the same time only 5,000 people died in this movie, right? I guess we can bring that up. Yeah, zacks knight has said that only 5,000 people died in the event that is man of steel No way. Yeah, yeah at 3,000 people died 9-11 Uh, yeah, so I'm the 5,000 people did yeah I want to show people this image, right because I sent this while I was um Looking it was trying to finish watching the film again to you guys. So Um No, you might be thinking to yourself. Okay fine. Usually that's a lot of damage But I could maybe picture there is 5,000 people in this image. It's like, yes This is about 0.5 of the damage done in the entire movie. So Well, it's just it's just again like rags just said it so about 3,000 people died in 9-11 and those buildings were Like there was evacuations of large portions of those buildings. So if like Even more than two buildings collapse here, which they do there's like 18 buildings collapse There are a lot of people who are dying in this event. It's not 5,000 This is like imagine it imagine if like 10 square blocks of new york like manhattan just got obliterated You know, oh 5,000 people. It's like are there like 2 million people here and like an average day Hey rugs, do you think judging from this that laurence fishpoon didn't make it? God, yeah, they're dead. Yeah, I think that this guy's totally dead There is a there's an interesting hesitance that people have to run away from this thing in this movie. It's really interesting. Yeah It does contribute to the best count undoubtedly Somebody mentioned something super interesting that um 5,000 casualties Even the lowest estimate is a lot more people than have ever died from collateral damage in the avengers And yet even that was enough for them to uh take action to Legislate it big deal Yeah, it is a big deal. Yeah Anyway threatening the whole world. Yes, but at the same time I'll concede that it does still do the job to earn its purpose of existence It does do the job to earn the purpose of its existence. What a sentence that is Let's throw in words to that sentence. Let's make the sentence longer. Let's make the sentence longer It does feel that way my teacher said I had to have 2,000 words for my essay So we're gonna throw in as many little articles and Prepositions and all as much as I can stretch that Especially when you're up with the character journey choices that the clerk in the process has to make Cal-L, I say this Surrender within 24 hours. This is never really Don't do anything with this though. He's like if you don't surrender the world will suffer and Cal is like Oh clock is like yeah, all right, I guess I'll go and see Yeah, yes, I'll call him Cal-L and clock, all right I get it's tough for me because I call him it's that throughout the fucking I know they keep calling him that and it really bugs me It's it's seriously It is like I'm not even like that big of a superman fan But my biggest pet peeve is when they call him Cal-L. He's fucking clock. That's the point What's the also what's the creepiest weirdest way that I could show up? You can ask the guy to give himself up. What's the worst verbiage that I could use? Surrender himself to us or else I'll fucking kill earth I'm gonna make I'm gonna take all the power away. We'll suffer. It's like World would suffer A bad person right off the bat like you're glitch-arting your way onto a message with this clear skull image Like what the fuck are you doing Zod? Yeah, it's one of the things I said on the call is that like he has the technology to transmit this to every phone And every computer and every tv in the world, but he can't make a clear image Like what why is it glitch art? I don't understand because they have to be this is their evil Instead of them just showing up in their spaceship going someplace. You're like, hi, we're aliens Can we talk to someone in charge? Oh To clarify So I'm seeing people in chat like to clarify I don't have a problem with like kryptonians calling them that what I'm saying is like Something that I've noticed in like a lot of media now and that really bugs me Is when characters who should be calling them clark calling call l like like I think the best we'll get to this when we get to justice league But like when um when they're trying to restrain superman wonder woman says call l the last son of krypton To try and jog his memory Why would why would that jog his memory of who he is more than clark kent? You grew up in kansas Your mom's name is martha or something. You don't want to be like that. Why did you say that name? Yeah No, this is I remember this happening in uh injustice too, but I almost feel like that was almost the point everybody who's Retarded calls him call l but like everybody who's a good guy calls him clark and I almost feel like that's deliberate like on purpose because They're emphasizing the human aspect. I think it's just Fundamentally if you are you are a guy You've grown up your entire life in like Small smallville in kansas the only parents you've ever known are jonathan and martha everybody that you know as a human being and then You know 25 years later you find out or 33 years later because the jesus Parallel isn't any more obvious in this film. They're like, oh no, you're from a different planet and all that All of I don't see how any of that would ever like change fundamentally the identity that you cultivated as a human being And I get really frustrated when superman properties emphasize the God jesus aspect of superman rather than the very human mundane aspect of him He's just a humble small town guy with humble small town values who goes around and saves people. It's superman. He's not that complicated He's really don't understand what the like the term formative years actually means Yeah, I guess it's you know If I was superman and someone called me call l i'm like, no that my name's clark. I'm clark. Yeah Stop calling me call call l. I'd no that's not my name I don't respond to that if somebody turned up today and told me your name is schlubel dupe It's like, oh, it's not but as long as you add in the well if someone told you you actually we're born on Glawam and and you were called schlubel dupe. You still wouldn't go by that from then on you'd be like, okay But that's not yeah, and it's like, you know the the clearest example Right when when superman meets like jorrell it shouldn't be that meaningful by comparison to It shouldn't be that meaningful by comparison to just his dad and his mom that actually raised him like the people who actually were there for him Yeah, it's um, it's just confusing because I know that it's kind. Well, it's not It's kind of the adaptation argument But it's also rooted in this film because in this film it makes sense it would make more sense for Everything makes sense whether the comics exist or not Yeah, yeah, I guess it's just that um, it's I don't know why they did this from the perspective of writing this story Um, I I don't think I think fundamentally. I'm more interested in the idea of somebody who's not technically from earth, but might as well be Versus the god thing that they keep doing here I think that the the old one the the campy lame one that people like that. That's more interesting But I think I think it would have been a really interesting character bit if when Uh, clark finds the spaceship and he gets the construct of his father jorrell And the construct calls him Cal l and superman says, you know, my my name's clark You know something that he says that could have been could have gone a long way with stuff like that But instead he just stands there like an idiot and just yeah I I think there's so much that you could have done even even if you wanted to tell this type of story you could have Way, you could have done a much better job of like reinforcing what the choice is like the choice to adopt the identity of the human being like if the central arc was He has his human identity and he's almost like searching for something more meaningful And then he realizes like no this is meaningful And I feel like that's almost what the film wants it to be but the film does not achieve that at all And yeah, yeah, I wanted to bring it as well when when this message starts up. It knocks out all the lights Yes, and then the lights come back on when I don't understand like it knocks all the lights off But it keeps all tv screens and mobile screens on to send the message like would I don't even know what's the How does he differentiate and why it's spooky? So somebody said this before but he wants the ideal viewing experience for everyone at home Like hey shut those lights off. I got something important to show you. It's some vlc glitch art We have uh, someone sent me an article. Uh, it's on buzzfeed. So it might be true. Oh my god But the someone said there is an estimation done a study done for buzzfeed By charles watson and his team at watson technical consulting to model and anticipate the damage done to metropolis Both in the form of human casualties and monetary cost And watson technical consulting estimates that in the days after the attack The known damage would be 129,000 known killed Over 250,000 missing most of whom would have also died and nearly a million injured In terms of strictly physical damage done to the city the initial estimate is 700 billion dollars to put it in context To put it in context 9 11's physical damage was 55 billion with a future or the further economic impact of 123 billion So uh, watson technical consulting estimates that the damage in uh, man of steel would be about 2 trillion for reference By the way, because I I was I was curious about this. Um, I'm pretty sure hurricane katrina is like the most uh expensive like, uh Things that ever happened in america in terms of you know a disaster the damage was 125 billion So We're talking about what at least 10 times worse At least 10 times more catastrophic Yeah, do they even take into account everything that happened in smallville like obviously it's a smaller place But there's a lot of damage done there too. That would be a lot of damage in a few depths. Um God damn like 2 trillion. This is basically the worst disaster ever Like On the efat movies, but it's like there would be Incredible ripple effects from all of this in the world that is the dceu not to mention all the alien tech by the way And how that would change everything too Um, something of a point on that is when um, let me get it up You know when lois is exiting the alien ship She um, she takes off her breathing mask thing and just tosses it to the ground And it's like you this technology is incredible just fyi Yeah, just hold on to it I will I will show it on screen in a moment once we actually get to uh You know, you know a copyright is there it goes. Look, she's gonna take it off bad She could have put it in the pod. She could have put it in the pod But oh well, um, but yeah, there would be it's it's catastrophe times a million. I don't know what to say Um, just so that just just for us here. Yeah, I was about to say yeah, that's what I got It's good We seek our lost time Oh My people Good job. Good job, Kara Or watch this world suffer the consequences. What does your gut tell you? Oh Hell why would he what give humans a chance Give humans a chance like if I don't if someone was about to mug like my mother right and he was coming at her with a knife And I was there and I could stop him with a gun or whatever What I wouldn't be like maybe I should give my mom a chance I'm trying to like think like it baffles me that this is considered like the interesting development for his character It's like will clock choose to give humans a chance like where do you think you've grown up your whole life? You asshole like this whole world is filled with people that you know very well Are very good. It's like yes, but that's including your mom. He does give it this was never a choice He's dealing with psychopaths versus the people he loves. Why is this interesting? Please tell me I think the worst the worst the movie posits that humanity You know is that he got bullied a lot No, it's that they might freak out if they realized he was an alien All right compared to the whole earth being destroyed. Well all of humanity being destroyed. I feel like this Yeah, it will be okay. Well, I mean that's very selfish if at that point if he's like man I'll be a freak. So maybe everybody should die Wow But all that said despite certain I love it if he was like, I'm not sure if I should give humans a chance like you you you chill with them being jannocided Like really like you're even considering this like wow He's like, yeah, but what if they mean to me when I reveal myself like oh Maybe you're bulletproof. You are bulletproof my dude He's like, oh you're a piece of shit Other entries ability to competently succeed even at this I'd say they oh my god You guys remember when the missiles are deflected and the missiles hit humans Like civilians like the government's missiles fly into the civilians And then Fuck it don't forget about the missiles flying into it. Remember when the jets fly into it. Well, so This is the interesting thing about that right the idea is when they these missiles start hitting the civilians They establish like oh the magnetism is making it so that the missiles are hitting Not our target. So what we need to do is launch them while being closer But then the unfortunate result is by getting closer. They get dragged in themselves and killed and it's like So you tell me because I guess I guess we didn't realize that our own ships were also made of similar materials to those rockets Incredibly stupid. I don't know why they didn't think that that would happen. But secondly, so what if you just fire it from above down? Yeah, that work or pretty sure that would work. Oh Also guys nuclear bomb might be an option worth considering. Um, I mean, well, at least we can Well, they they they fucking detonate a black hole But what I want to do is establish as well Is that I know some people out there right now might be typing this up It's like in fairness. These are fighter pilot people You know, they're not necessarily as smart as youtube film critics. You have to keep them. They're not stupid No, no come on like we've been told this before I do love that that argument right like oh, you know people can make stupid decisions. It's like, yeah I'm sorry that I assumed that the military is smarter than me in a movie That was my mistake. I guess like one of our instant like I think three of us at the same time said shoot the missiles from above Because it's pulling things down because of gravity So I think three of us were like, oh, just shoot the missiles from the top Just fly down and shoot the missiles and they don't do that and it was just three three Idiot civvies here watching this tv show. We're like, oh, we figured it out instantly without even having to really think about it at all And they this the military is like, what are we gonna do? I don't know. It's crashing into it Well, it's magnetizing, you know, all forms of metal. Maybe if we fly toward it like that'll Fly close to john. Oh, no, it's sucking me at all I'm good. Good thing. We're flying paper planes Obvious here. So if you want to know more you can check out my other videos on the topic The thing about manastil I do find worth noting though is its ability to weave in plot even to the sections where the plot doesn't yet exist We already established how this plot is happening there It weaves plot into sections where the plot doesn't exist So the plot does exist in those sections. We already went over this it was clearly plotted this portion But this is also garbage like the everything that comes together in this portion of the plot is really dumb She takes one photo at one random point in the night and it happens to be when clock is making his way To the ship that he heard about because he heard two guys talking in a bar. It's like, fuck hell All right So an idiot in chat said you guys whine about the damage and casualties then casually throw in nuke's as an option wtf Oh, so sorry the reason why I brought up nuke's is that if the world engine thing keeps going forever Then everybody dies and at that point it probably would be better to use a nuke to stop it I'm glad that you explained to the person that using a nuke is is preferable over ultimate destruction Yeah extinction of the race. Yes. Let me let me tell you man one nuke can't kill all of earth But the world engine can so maybe it might be a good uh, yeah nuke's are meant to minimize the damage It's still a lot of damage, but it's less than It's like, you know, the only time nuke's have ever been used in war was to do that Whoa, whoa, whoa, but nuke's nuke's kill people though rags Oh my god, so that they're outs off the table then that's off the table. Yeah, let's ignore that By the way, if only we could come up with a nuke that just like inconveniences a bunch of people What it puts pebbles in people's shoes Yeah Like if we could come up if we could come up with a bomb that like vaporizes all of the left shoes in like a five mile radius I like that. I think that would be an incredibly devastating tool of war What if it makes sense so this pebbles in your shoes, even if you aren't wearing shoes, you just feel it You're like, oh You're always walking on just a pebble not a bunch of pebbles, which would be totally fine But just just a single pebble. It's that uh, it's that that thing like that rick and morty thing where it's like Oh, you know that feeling when you got uh, something in your neck stuck there Like you just can't get it out. They could call it a weapon of mass distraction Someone said you're complaining that too many people were killed by superman though That is a character criticism of superman Yeah, the film doesn't recognize what he's doing and he he doesn't either. You know, I understand two arguments simultaneously No, no this person clearly can't also in our in our argument, right? Or in our in our watch through of the movie I get argument and watch through of the bad movie mixed up. They're basically the same thing But we regularly say why doesn't superman just punch it And then at the end he punches it And it breaks and so why doesn't he use this fucking laser? On on any of the kryptonian ships up until right at the end That's what he finally does it after the all kinds of destruction. It's fascinating So the discussion about nukes is what humanity can do clearly Yeah, yes, don't work and the discussion of what superman can do is that he could stop it at any moment But he doesn't because he's an idiot That's that's the difference. He's like it's like what happened at smallville, but now it's bigville and he hasn't changed Do you guys remember when the enormous alien ship did a ninja move on superman? It just pops up really quiet though, like it's no technology. He was like, oh my god Oh someone's flunk here He is a guy of flunk they drew Flunk we have a flunk Ladies and gentlemen, we have a flunk He was a stick man. I'm impressed Why is it on the side? It's loading for me. Why? Here, let me find out why for some reason Oh here let me here I could just screenshot the picture because Dude flunk is such a big brain Little flunk gonna piece together his leg as well Yeah, I'm I'm just I'm I'm a big fan of flunk. He really tried to save the day man of steel. He's the unsung hero expert Flunk had his chance. No Got my other videos on the topic the thing about man of steel I do find worth noting though is its ability to weave in plot even to the sections where the plot doesn't yet exist So that is a fascinating statement to make It's what is it? Did he mean to say that there is plot when we don't necessarily realize that it's plot yet? Is that what he meant to say? I couldn't even begin to guess what he meant to say. All right See at the initial building blocks for the plot in the prologue It then kind of goes away altogether because this is 40 minute character section before zot shows that as a generous Capture journey during the section the movie still manages to What is this? Well, I'm getting you're adding in choice to confuse me I'm getting distracted Part of what he was saying. He's so what he said was Um, we got plot then we didn't get plot for 40 minutes and we don't need Explosions in these portions. I think that's what he was saying It's a way all together because there's this 40 minute character section before zot shows up And yet in that plotless character journey during the section the movie still manages to evoke the exhilarating feeling of plot by No, it's a what what what are you talking about? exhilarating Plot like here. I there's so many things that have just been asserted like Is it is it more exhilarating to have plot happen than character now? I'd well that is that is a weird statement, isn't it because you think about because again you think about like You mentioned earlier 12 angry men a lot of exhilarating scenes in there And it's because the characters are clashing in fact Like characters clashing is usually the most exhilarating part of a story not like a you know like why The fight and civil war between cap and Tony and is like more exhilarating than the airport battle Like I don't know about you guys, but like there's more exhilarating and the stakes are smaller technically Yeah Because like it seems to me that he's because I wouldn't want to say that he's saying that that's the truth He's saying that despite that being the truth. This is still exhilarating to deal with these character modes I'm just like since when was that something we agreed on I wasn't there By creating these efficient situations centered around the same three components for example early on there's Okay, at this point I want him to just point a scene to just a movie to me And I'll tell him what the gold stakes and urgency aren't every single fucking one I don't think that there's just there's just I don't know which film exists that doesn't have those things Stop doing it as a point of Praise pray a story has gold stakes and urgency. It's like please. Please. I beg you It's almost an unavoidable part of writing a story like rag said Captain Marvel. She's looking for the um the science project the secret science project the stakes are though If she doesn't get it before the scrolls do then bad things happen urgency as the scrolls are looking for it at the same time She is There you go. Captain Marvel did it fun great Yeah, uh, good job. This film has a plot sometimes That's funny because um, I know what what are some because there are films He said are anatomy of a failure that all have these things too. All right. Let's go have a look at his series I guess. Well, yeah, I mean he said dark phoenix dark phoenix is an interesting one because all of you guys hate that movie More than you should it's not a good movie But god damn like it's not as bad as people say it is it's if anything it's it's maybe just fine But but does it have a plot? Which is funny because it has all of these things too like it like it has a doesn't doesn't have cp Wonder Woman 84 the goal is to stop max the stakes are if they don't wish is continue to get granted and And the urgency is that as time goes on and then after and more the world will end Transformers for what um, I don't remember the uh the goals. Um, we're gonna make earth shit Um, the stakes are when earth is made crap everybody dies and the urgency is they're doing it right now. Okay um The amazing spider-man 2 um the goal is The goal is the goal is to stop, you know, electro and green goblin and well, I guess the goal is like whose goal I guess the protagonist but But he said that g for um for man of steel was zod's plan Zod's goal was the goal. This is why i'm getting confused. It's whose goal Is it just any goal at all? It is a weird way to um This is all I mean like establishing that there are goals takes an agency means that you've nailed plot to me I'm just like god, this should be more to it than that And centered around the same three components For example early on there's this character scene where clark is just casually working on his boat as a fisherman when suddenly Yeah, you skipped the part with the super strong man tackled superman. Yeah, you did Oh, yeah, he I guess he's not gonna talk about that. It's gonna set up another film in the uh, the dcu Fisherman Just like that a character beat has turned into an external manifestation of gsu. The goal is to feed an external manifestation of gsu why an external Why words he's reminded me of my word happen The versatile verbs of pressing l1 It's like what? The stuck in place or takes are the lives of the workers the urgency is the fire. Well, yes, but like why is this so special to you Most films have this. I don't these are even struggling to think of examples where they don't have this They're about to blow the whole time beverage to explain this surely it's in how it's constructed rather than Whether or not they nailed gsu Because he's talking about this movie as like Oh, this is what dce but the dceu films need to learn from going forward because this Goes takes an urgency and they all do wonder woman has this 84 definitely has this Yeah, they all have it. It's just they're almost all yeah, they're almost all poorly executed and this is no exception Hmm Goal stakes urgency plot another example. We have a character scene of young clark sitting in the school bus when Oh, you see the goal is to not drown the stakes are they could drown the urgency is they are drowning Stop what are we doing right now? It's yeah Again suddenly a plot driven situation we have to get the suddenly plot a plot driven situation in the time of the movie Where you said there was no plot? Oh The water to save the other school kids on board before they all drown He said the thing What is this? This is why it's perfect The arctic scene we have to get to the kryptonian ship to prevent it from falling in the wrong hands before the army finds it And then before it does fall into the wrong hands We have to stop it from falling into the wrong hands before it does Or else it will or else it will Or else it will do it If that happens it did happen. Oh, no. Come on. What is this? You see there are scenes in which characters wish to achieve things before time limit. Let's uh It's pretty revolutionary Another plot beta was having and so on and so on the point I'm getting at here Is that even though the main plot doesn't fully kick in until like halfway in the movie still creates these external Situations to give us the exhilaration. What's an internal situation just so that is an external like a tornado External would be something that is like The world throws a situation at you I guess whereas internal is like a struggle in your head Like do I want to kill or to spare? I don't know. Yeah, it's I mean I got like I have to I feel like I have to ask for these things No, I I totally understand why because like this this video is not helping No, because I constantly want to ask what do you mean? I love that he describes this scene that he's showing on screen is exhilarating That's so goddamn funny to me I mean we could we could talk about it. I guess before he Yeah, let's talk about it. It's a good time. So right before a tornado suddenly forms around a bunch of cars A wild tornado appears superman is telling his parents how much he's not their kid and wants to go and do stuff Which is fun. Um And then they get there they get out everyone gets out of their cars Nobody drives away from the fucking tornado. Everyone just looks at it and goes well time to get on foot This is like, all right. I mean, yeah, it's not like cause of faucet and Maybe we haven't prepared for this. So, um, they they start leaving and then Oh, no, there's someone who hasn't gotten out of their car yet. And so, uh, Jonathan is like everyone get under the overpass The bridge whatever they gotta get under there to be safe I'm gonna go and help the person in the car clock fuck off and clock's like, whoa Like I can help and there's this implication in the scene that Jonathan is like, no Like we can't let people know it's like dude. He is a strapping young lad. All right He can help people whether or not the talk like this situation That we can't have superman help these people out of the car because then they'll know it's like, no A regular person can help. He is younger than you. He is stronger than you. He is faster than you Like just let him do regardless of superpowers But no, you know, John Jonathan is like, I'll go do it And then unfortunately a car lands on the car that he's in and it hurts his foot And he just like, oh, I'm gonna pull it up. It's so funny to me. He's like Resignation to death. He just gives up. He doesn't hobble over. He just stops Um, no Yeah, so as you can see, he's he's hurt his legs to chat. Get ready right now. I tell living You need to picture this scenario yourselves where you hurt your leg to the point Maybe you can't even walk on that leg. Let's go even crazier than is for him. Um So what do you do a tornado is gonna kill you and you can't quite walk on your leg And see sees right there and the tornado is coming Me personally, I'm gonna start crawling like crazy. I'm gonna start fucking crumbling like Yeah, I'm like, you know what? Not a good chance is better than no chance I don't want to die in front of everybody. That might be traumatic. Plus. I don't want to die because I'm me And there are there are stakes urgency and something so he can hobble he takes one step because What would be the point like this would be uncomfortable and enough time passes in this scene that Clark could easily run at a normal human speed over to him pick him up and then run away, but he doesn't because He just gives him this hand because no No, I'm gonna take my hand to grab my hand Imagine if he like actually did me that Imagine Jonathan is like no Jonathan can't had his chance Yeah, um, I know people there's people out there who think this scene is powerful. It's embarrassing. Um, it's It's so goddamn embarrassing. It's so stupid Don't help me, but you know super speed that you don't need right now He tells him to go take them under the bridge and like, oh, I'm gonna go help these people instead. Why not a clock go help? He's tall and in shape and strong. He could carry these people. He could carry his dad It's not unreasonable that he would be able to carry people. Yeah. Yeah Even though our focus is mostly on character Yeah, that's super powers. Yeah. He's a strong boy. Big strong boy And this was the thing like ignoring all of how horribly done all of that was He could still actually use the superman powers and people could be like, oh my god And it should be like, yep, this is a secret that our town must keep Yeah, but you know what my dad's life is worth giving up that secret because i'm a good person And that's the problem, man It's clock's choice ultimately to bake and he made it Yeah, yeah, he made it and was crazy This is absolutely adaptation at this point But I just think it's an interesting thought a lot of people like to point out the big thing for clock to have to deal with when he's In the comics and suit iterations is the idea that despite how strong he is there's some things he can't save people from such as Jonathan kent's heart attack in The way it usually goes What a way to spend on superman fans What a way to say not only does Jonathan cannot die from something that superman can stop Superman chooses not to help him Like oh man It is very strange to me that when superman is adapted poorly that nobody gives a fuck But when spider-man is adapted in a way that you don't like That's um, that's a big problem. That's a sin against mankind And I know so it's weird because when batman's adapted in a way that people don't like as we'll sure we'll get to eventually Like that's a really bad. But when it's superman I think a lot of people take care of this Did they oh Wait, hold on. Let me Angry joe is like a big superman fan. Does he like this film? This is the thing I'm not saying everybody I know a lot of people took issue with not just clark, but also jonathan kent like in this movie Okay, that that'll be good then because like I I'm not sure hold on Fringy, I care. I'm glad you do care He does like it. Okay, apparently he does all right He gave it a nine out of ten. Oh This is three out of ten area. Yeah, it might even be worse than that Oh god this movie like it's Why do we keep coming across media that keeps me our scale may as well be one two three We're the anti-ign Where things are like a three by default things are a three by default instead of like a seven point five It's fucking our scale up. Where's the sevens and eights in this world? nine out of ten those take work and effort people have to care Situation as the exhilaration of plot so that even though our focus is mostly on character It's not on character and thus doesn't ever become boring Boring avoid boring stop it boring. I don't care. I just like the idea that he's like hey advice When you're doing the strictly character stuff and you want to put plot in there, so it's not boring So what is this formula? No, yeah, I mean I wasn't bored during this scene. I laughed a lot, especially when he goes No, no I'm just gonna die. Don't you stay over there. Don't It's not boring. It's stupid We're gonna say something about boring We sound like you're gonna say something Uh, no, no, it's all right. It's already gone. That was that was a great No, I Hi, metal. Hey What are you doing? No, why do you look so disgusted with rags? What the fuck? He looks so horny at me and I don't like it Makes me scared. I'm not looking at everybody I'm looking at you and you and yeah, I'm like one of those paintings I don't know the angle you look at it. I'm always looking at you. Am I over here. I'm over there. Oh my god The dust better we're sad about ruby's always watching Help me Remember You gotta add in plot when you have character focus things to prevent boredom It's not only uncharacter and thus doesn't ever become boring. We have these smaller contained missions The character is boring I just I mean this the things the things that are being said without him necessarily realizing a baffling sometimes Remember the amount of times you shout on aliens without realizing it in his underwater video? You can't kill one enemy when there's more of them What? It's meaningless. It's yeah, it's not it's not scary if there's more than one evil monster Especially when there's a big one too. It's like dude Character, it's not only uncharacter and thus doesn't ever become boring. We have these smaller Implication here that characters are boring. You have to have plot to make it exciting Focusing on character would be boring is what he accidentally just implied like yeah, what? Direct implication of what he said. This is the kind of things you pick up on a Second draft. Oh, yeah, our first draft or something. Most people don't even say it in the first place, but Oh, well Ever become boring we have these smaller contained missions fueled by the motion of the character journey in which we either succeed Or fail. So what he just spent ages saying is we had a scene that has characters making choices in it Yes And sometimes it's fair, which is honestly I would say Yeah, I think all things happen or else it'd be boring like he didn't talk about why the seat is good Outside of saying it's character and plot Yeah, it's just he just sort of describes generally what sort of happens in a very Open way Whereas we just talked casually about why it's shit. Yeah, we talked about all the mechanics how it all happened Why they were there. Yeah, all he's done is to scribe it. It's like this is a car It has some wheels and an engine. It's like the engine is made out of jello No, but it has an engine engine. All right It's good. Now imagine imagine you're writing whatever the next dceu movie is going to be and you're like, okay How do I do it? How do I do it? Well, oh great. I found this great video where someone's gonna tell me how to How to do it perfectly And you're like you're like furiously taking notes. Okay, so I want character and plot or else it's boring. Oh, this is brilliant Oh, this is so brilliant. You got to remember gsu and cp Yeah, that's on you. That's on you clarring Yeah, if you were gonna be this bugged by it, you should have done something Yeah, you might even say it would have been in character for him to have saved him at the sacrifice of his identity That would have been a really that would have been a really super thing to do God and that's what I Do anything heroic until he finally decides like, oh, yeah, I should just punch this machine to death the very end Yeah, he's not a hero in this movie. No He puts a bear effort plenty of times to actually like Fucking defend earth. Honestly as a member of earth watching this Film as like a documentary of what this man did to protect us. I'd be like you're an ass Like you're like does he does he really care about us? Or is it just because he has nowhere else to wonder the people in batman v superman were so mad at him? Well, remember him in bvs when he's saving people. He looks really sad Yeah, like oh here's another side of his board of it And you know which would have been an interesting story to explore, but they don't he's just bored I wouldn't be cool to have done that in bvs, but we never like batman is often cited as like Well, at least we know because that why he's mad. It's like, but we never actually understand why I shouldn't be doing this yet We'll get there eventually, but I just want to bring up that we never actually understand what batman's Understanding of what happened in man of steel is he just says he brought these people here Fuck here. He brought the war to us to us. Yeah, wait. Do you actually think that's what happened? Do you like would you? Do you like I want batman's opinion on what superman did to to save people too because that's the interesting part That's what civil war does. It's like what we saved the world It's like you did but you could have done a better job, couldn't you You could have done better and there are people I mean, it's funny ross says a few times like there are people who are dead who wouldn't have been like that's That's a good point And it's something that's people struggle with and I find it so awkward when you know Police officer fires into a group of people kills is like a terrorist But he also killed a whole bunch of people. It's like well, he saved the day. It's like And that's what I wish all these DC movies in the future Imagine he did save jonathan there. His identity was sacrificed for it He went through a lot of trouble to try and reseal it and then jonathan dies a few weeks later from heart attack Almost making the drama that was it even worth it that decision after everything that happened Of course the answer is yes, but it would still be yeah, it's something Yeah, something he could talk about with you know, his mom That could be something that they discuss as two characters dealing with issues that they're both personally related to but yeah But it's not it's not just not a real mom. So what does that matter? Yeah, you're not really my mom. Fuck you mom Yeah It's Not like you Remember At some point he decides to leave home and go like Like off the grid and have a job in canada or whatever else he does It'd be interesting if he had to do it after saving his dad You know, but we don't actually know what led him to actually leave home and go off the grid We don't know the event that caused that You're not for sure There's been one that really gave up his identity more so than usual Yeah, and that would be if he did it to save his dad That would be more interesting but uh Apparently no And that's what I wish all these dco movies in the future would do Can you imagine if all the dc movies in the future were like this movie? I mean it wouldn't change much. Yeah Even though it is important to give us an internal character journey that makes us feel We still also need a steady stream of external plot situations. I don't agree Like you don't need them You've said as a result of describing the scenes that happened We need plot to be happening on our characters whether or not we're simply learning about them. It's like no I reject your reality and substitute my own Okay, like he's just decided after describing that these things happen in these seeds that that means that's what you have to do That's all he did It was an internal character journey that makes us feel We still also need a steady stream of external plot situations to make us exhilarated Give us things happen. Give us real external. I guess He's just so brazenly brazenly bold about how wrong he is He's just asserting everything so confidently. I could see how people would watch this and just be nodding along Oh, yes, of course. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, that we need plot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We need steady Give us things happening exhilaration. Can we I just want to show the clip he showed here, right? To make us exhilarated give us things happening. Give us real external obstacles Give us real external obstacles. Okay, so do you know what we're talking about it now? This is happening. So this scene He's so small, okay That scene, all right, we're gonna have to draw it right back to zahd is attacking You got one end of the world has got the world engine on it clocks Like I'll take that one out They talk about this whole plan instead of him just taking it out of course because clocks were taller than everyone is Of course. Yeah, you can't just punch it. He's like, I'll take that one out You guys gonna have to take out the one in new york city Now by the way, if you're going to create a singularity slash black hole on one of the two of them Maybe go for the one in the middle of nowhere rather than the one in new york city Yeah, so I jumped the gun there So the plan is they have to take clock's ship that he arrived on Because it has a phantom drive in it and this ship has a phantom drive in it too And if you crash two phantom drives together it creates a fucking black hole That's what they say is a good thing because it means that they can destroy the ship I don't know if any of you have concerns about creating a black hole in the middle of new york city Yeah, we talk about this a little during the recording, but yeah, they're very quick to say Yeah, let's make a black hole on the surface of our planet That that won't end horrifically. This is them agreeing. Look, I've got it on repeat They're agreeing. Let's put a black hole in new york city. Let's do it black hole. Let's do it All right, black hole. That's cool. Gotcha. And so they are successful In fact, one of the only things we like about this film is involved in the execution where uh, the general guy drives the ship and says What does he say like? uh His honor and death or something like that Uh, he's like the uh, uh a good death as its own reward basically when he crashes into Yeah, the thing he that she told her before they had their knife fight and it's actually cool little payoff there Yeah, good job. Yeah, they did a good thing Oh, this is another funny bit here as well because again, this whole fucking film is terrible Zaw just trying to stop them from destroying the world engine and what he there's a bunch of ships here He blows up all of them except the one ship he needed to destroy And then he lines himself up behind it. He targets He's like fire out their ship and that's superman jumps in the way if he had simply shot it Oh, there's so much of that in the film if x had simply happened, which was perfectly likely he pulled the hucks Yeah, he was too arrogant. I suppose I guess So destroy those small tiny fighters We got um So the uh, the by the way scientist man who makes all of this happen because he figures out how to do it He's just unceremoniously wiped out. We don't even see him again. I don't know if you guys remember is this guy Oh He's the one who gets it sorted He like rearranges it and then hits it in but he just dies It's just like bye So we create a black hole and it pushes lois away from it out of the ship which saves her life twice over Then everything starts getting sucked into it including cars and superman But lois doesn't lois continues to fall down Makes no fucking sense at all Both in this movie and batman for superman. Her plot armor is insane Yeah, she's crazy. I a single instance of uh plot armor I don't think I've come across and you guys can tell me if there's other ones This is the biggest single piece of plot armor i've ever seen someone falls away from a black hole that they're right next to Meanwhile, everything else is getting stuck into it. It's not even just the concept of falling away from a black hole How did you do that? You have to have the most extreme plot armor the history of the universe. That's incredible That that I think you're right. That might be the kind of a go-to example. Yeah Um, so he's describing this as exhilarating. This is laughable Like what the fuck are they trying to say is happening here? We like we just glossed over the fact that I just hid for a second But um, did you mention the fact that when superman grabs her he now has to try a lot harder to get away from the black hole Yeah, she was so now that he's introduced himself into the plot equation. Yeah Yeah, he see look at him even his face starts to get torn off. Not hers. No. Yeah. No, not hers. She's fine Oh, it's so bad. Jesus if you're fair He should have just grabbed onto her and let her fall and pull him away from the black hole Yeah, you have her falling up So what you do is you have her fall off the ship Before they detonate and then as she's close to hitting the ground She could like even level out and fall real close and then start rising back up and she starts screaming Yeah, and then clock has to save her If you were competent, it's not that hard. It's really not that hard And um, yeah, uh, I like how we're focusing on this We've glossed over the fact that they've detonated a black hole in the middle of new york city That is a a huge that they never talk about how they're gonna control it. They simply say that's what we're gonna do Yeah, what what are we doing after the ship is gone? It's like, oh, I need to Black holes, all right That's a dangerous I'll give it to you don't want to be anywhere near them I'll give it to me repulse story. He has some really funny black hole related edits and uh the Black holes are no joke. Okay. What do I make sure you are there? They're bad for your skin The world is somehow saved by that event and you know what film enters, right? We need more events like that. Put them in batwoman That's where they belong To offer give us something that combines the emotion of a small character study and the excitement of a bit They would As if you can't have a character study in a blockbuster I'm just confused. Is this whatever? His advice here is some of that that good old-fashioned if you write your film. Well, it'll be good sort of thing He's like you should Yeah, you need to have good plot and good characters. Thanks a lot. Captain obvious If you guys can just nail that element, you'll be fine Something that combines the emotion of a small character study and the excitement of a big Hollywood blockbuster And then finally the thing that ties both of these. Oh god. Oh, no So no as you guys have been blown away by how impressive the plot and characters are now get ready for the third most important element Aspects together But like I said before we can move on to that last point. I first got to read this book on psychology to be I don't know. Stop. Why they're doing it. Wait. He this is the second time. He said this Maybe it's an Like he talked about the book before and he talked about her because they had the profile with the Then he said we'll get back to it. I think he was he was non-specific throughout the book Properly. So see you in like 27 hours or something you should put effort into your video. No Okay, that's my advice. No No Oh, what's this? I already got all the necessary information from that book that I needed to learn. How's that possible? Well, it's thanks Well, I didn't read the book and I fucking get why this movie shit. We've we have sag weight everyone We have sag weight. We are actually a really cool app called blinkis That takes all the key lessons from non-fiction books and condenses them into these 15 or so minute No, read the fucking book. Seriously. Read the fucking book. Like this is this is terrible. Just read the whole book How do I clear on this? It takes a book and it converts the book's main points into a readable list You know what I'm kidding me a readable list. You know what else can though does wikipedia But I think I would appeal more fundamentally like Read the book. Why doesn't read the book? It's an app that literally says like books suck Here's what they wanted to tell you like what the fuck is the point of that? So one of one of the really good things about reading books is that you can glean things that you didn't expect to get out of the book little sentences or just things that you Personally speak to you or are meaningful to you You're not going to get any of that if you just take the book and then go like it reading sucks, doesn't it? Here's a short little way of reading Fuck what the fuck is this app? What's it called again? Blinkist? Blinkist. This is the equivalent of like Oh, should I watch prestige and I'm like no the main thing the film is trying to do is it has a lot to say about like How far we'll go to achieve great things or impress people and it costs money It costs 999 It costs so it costs 10 bucks a month or alternatively you can get the premium version For 20 bucks a month even shorter synopses. Oh wait, if you get the premium version, is that a shorter synopsis or a longer synopsis? I don't know. I actually don't know what I don't know what the difference is for the premium. It doesn't make it clear That's I'm blown away that this even exists. Oh, this is probably 20 bucks a month. You can cancel every you can cancel it The other one is is annually billed. So this is the first thing I think I've seen advertised that Instead of assuming what's bad about it underneath. It's the surface that's bad Like, you know raychat legends. It's like this is awesome rpg. We get to play Does all these things all these that sounds super cool And it's like yeah, it's probably a shitty mobile game. Oh, no, it's like this makes it so you don't have to read books You could just read someone's perspective of what the point was What the fuck would I want that? I guess we don't be as much It costs about as much to use this service as it does to use fucking audible Fucking get audible just listen to the whole book If you don't want to fucking read it just listen to it. Don't do this. Shit. I can't believe this app exists It seems like a parody app like you would put this in a fucking comedy sketch show Lots and oppsies on the internet. Those are free Why why why why spark notes doesn't exist? You can just pay for spark notes I think it's safe to assume by the way that we're never gonna get sponsored by blinkers Oh So if a representative from blink tits or whatever is watching this if you could I Do your best to convince us that your product is a million people Have this Oh, look the the seven highly effective the seven habits of highly effective people now. I have that book I'm pretty sure it's like 400 pages long, but you could read it in 19 minutes now I wonder how much I'm going to lose by doing that. It's amazing. I mean, it's not like This is so fast Imagine being like somebody who wrote a book and it's like 400 pages long and you're like I have edited this I've gone through it so many times This is all of the content that I wanted in this book for you to read and someone's like Yeah, fuck that we could cut down like 90 of that and then make it 20 minutes long I'm sure that nothing important is going to be lost by doing this Who's doing the editing, you know, like who's the one who says like, you know, this paragraph There's nothing in this paragraph. This was a good one. Did they read the book? Imagine writing the whole book and then you find out that your book has been cut down to like 10 minutes And people are paying for that. They're paying and your work reduced Like come on What is this? I mean, let's see how he describes it I I have a pitch for a new app. It's called blink tits and what you do is you get synopses of things on blink list Or whatever the fuck it's called and then you shorten them even more so you can read them in like two minutes so Yeah, and it only cost a hundred dollars a year And you get synopses of synopses of books that you should probably just read yourself This is just read them. This is some dystopian level app This feels like 2020. Yeah, this feels like some 2021 stuff like you don't have a detention span. That's okay just reading is for the gays Reading is lame. Why do you now there's a tab for economics and it's like all the blockchain revolution Yes, I'm sure in 13 minutes. I'm going to learn all that there is to know about fucking cryptocurrency Holy shit capitalism and freedom at 13 minutes You told me that I can learn about capitalism and be like, yeah, I'm good. I understand capitalism in 13 minutes You have to put this in a madden steel video too. I feel like this is A movie that could use being condensed with hell What is the um the name of the it's like the Fallacy it's named after two people who did the study of the less you know about something The more confident you are of the dunning. Oh, that's dunning. Yeah, this is this is the dunning kruger effect the app Where you're gonna you're gonna what you're gonna do is you're gonna read an article About some lofty incredible subject for 13 minutes and you're gonna walk away thinking I know this subject when you don't know jack shit about it But you're gonna feel very confident that you know a lot about 100 different topics But you don't know anything about them Imagine yeah, like Imagine you wrote this is the dunning kruger app Imagine one of us wrote a book and the rest of us said, oh, yeah, I checked it out on blinkers. It was pretty cool Oh, this is what i'm saying like imagine if you got like ed grail and poe or something You're like, hey, you know how you spent like your whole life writing stories How does it feel to know that people have summed it up in a 10 minute piece of shit? That costs like 200 bucks a year or something. Is it not? By the way, the reason they didn't buy your book is because they paid this person money instead Guys, it's it's thematically consistent because his description of man of steel is basically one of these synopses Where like you think you understand man of steel after watching his video, but he glossed over all the important I just I am I they even have things here for like there's a time for religion and spirituality And they've got like islam 18 minutes. It's like, yes, I'm sure there's a very comprehensive guide on an entire religion Isn't like your existence of your work on that app an insult I feel like it is almost right because it's like dude. There's a reason why it is as long as it is There's a reason for that I'm I'm this this does really upset me like the fact that this exists Um, well, let's listen to his um his his ad of it. Let's see if he makes it sound real good There is a synopsis somebody hold on somebody asked like I can't wait for a synopsis on the bible There is one on this app It's called. What is the bible 15 minute read? Isn't the bible like a thousand pages long? Is there is an obsessive blinkest on there? Reduce blinkest time to a couple of bullet points It's the takes like fit reading into your life From nonfiction books and condenses them into these 15 or so minute highlights that you can either read or listen to Without having to go through the whole thing Without having to go I like the way he says it without having to go through the whole thing How about that's what the the point of it being that long? Isn't that how jarrod watched films rags? He said he would go through the clips on youtube because he didn't want to watch the movies. He'd take too long It's better to just watch the highlights. There you go Blink is for make your bed a 10 minute read Interesting how to win how to win friends and influence people 21 minutes Yeah, that like I said that book is about 400 pages long. I'm pretty sure it's a long It's a decently like I don't get how they choose what gets kept, you know, who's doing that? Well, I I'm betting right. So for instance, there's the book the seven habits of highly affected people is on there I bet their thing is all right. So here are the seven highly affected. Wow. You're loud. This is Am I loud? Oh, yeah, I don't know if it's just me, but you're just like loud now Let me okay. Is that better? Is that better? Yeah, maybe it was just me, but you just got very excited I'm very passionate. I'm upset because this really bugs me This feels like an affront this website Yeah, I would never advertise this on my channel the wider implications again I I do kind of what is because the first thing you just said was like you don't have to read the whole book It's like what the fuck Geez books and condenses them into these 15 or so many Highlights that you can either read or listen to without having to go through the whole thing They have thousands of non-fiction books to learn from ranging from science to history The key message of this book for lasting effectiveness adopt these seven habits Be proactive you have a natural need to wield influence on the world around you So don't spend your time just reacting to external events and circumstances Maybe he got that for his his little thing Take charge and assume responsibility for your life unlike Superman Begin with an end in mind There's probably a lot more that you need to know about that whole be proactive thing that is gone That's just yeah, it just says do things I just I'm blown away. It's so insulting. It's like I've taken the parts of your book that actually matter And I've given it to people is that chill you're like, no No Begin with an end in mind don't spend your life working aimlessly tackling whatever job comes to hand Have a vision for the future and align your actions accordingly to make it into a reality So do things and have a goal Have gsu that's where you got this is just a less entertaining version of the phantom toll booth Which is just a less entertaining version of the phantom there is a seven minute Sam harris thing on free will seven minutes Seven minutes is all I could spare to play with free will seven minutes Think the productivity and to whatever you might think of it's kind like school But as if you were sonic or something the spine school, but if you were sonic Sonic super fast Yeah, he can't listen faster than the teacher can talk I don't get it It's like a family guy joke where he says you're learning faster than sonic and it cuts to sonic in a classroom He's like, I don't understand what I have to listen like why would you make this? Okay Why are you talking to me some sonic or something? So I didn't even want to commit to that Really quickly Answering this video with control 25% off filament or this gun for the first hundred people who click which also includes a free seven day Try the seven day trial is included in everything. This is not additional. This is just part of it It comes with a free trial We get 25% off Of don beverage on this app There is no way that you could distill all of gone beverages amazing Into just a few words. There's no way What about pat cod right? Pat Conroy, so I'm pretty sure that um, you can oh dude if they have I would oh my god I got to look up to see if they have like the lords of discipline and stuff It seems to just be so it's all nonfiction, right? So I've just another one. Oh, it's nonfiction Yeah, so it's not because of it was fiction that would be insane. But wait, they included the bible Um, but I've got thinking fast and slow now I'm pretty sure that book is like takes 15 hours to read and they've got a 19 minute thing It's like come on. Stop it. Like come on. Stop it. Please. I can't take this Emotional intelligence. That's a huge book in a 16 minutes Stop doing this It's a nightmare. It's come true blinkers It really makes me upset like because because It sucks Just general good advice, but like Reading is super useful and super helpful. You can learn a lot from reading just a bunch of different books And you're not going to get any of that From just reading a bunch of 16 minute 15 minute summaries. I think how useful this app is for video essayists Well, I mean he's Yeah, because he came on saying like oh, we got to talk about this book. It's like you didn't fucking read it You read a spark notes on it. You didn't read the book Well in fairness, this is way better. You don't even have to read all that fluff. I like that You don't even it's like you don't even have to watch the movies. Get the notes on what happened Why do you I like the hassle of reading like come on There Guys, this is funny. I how to make people like you in 90 seconds or less. It's a 13 minute read Wait a minute boy, I feel tricks I know ever I know what it really means chat. I get it. It's just funny It's like it's like when you see a sign that says learn to play guitar No strings attached like I know what they mean. All right. It's just funny to hear it out loud People who click which also includes a free seven day trial that you can cancel if reading isn't for everybody Fringies to get audible and just have somebody read it for you Yeah, I think you have to wait whether or not whether or not one wishes to read is kind of irrelevant to this whole thing Like the best you could argue is well if I don't like reading I would rather read something small than big We're like listen to it Yeah, listen to the whole thing. I don't like reading or listening. Oh, all right. Oh, damn I guess you're just a lump like you're just a big lump on the ground So was it uh, is this older to the underwater video so crazy We watched Man of Steel. We were ready to do some Man of Steel coverage and Phil meadow drops a man of steel video like A couple of days ago. It was like, whoa Just the timing because we're a big fan of Phil meadow on this podcast at this point as you can tell It's cool to get some insight into Man of Steel Or if for some reason you other than feel it's enough for you So if you want to gain new skills and knowledge at an increased speed check the link in the game new skills Stop it like you might remember a couple useful things maybe Feel so bad for the people you ain't you ain't picking up new skills all the original authors. I feel so bad for you Yeah Description and out thanks, but now since we have that necessary knowledge So he had to pick up what he needed for so he didn't read the book He got this summary of the book from blinkest and now he is qualified to talk about this character for this skinny video What the fuck is good bad? Good bad. Why did you call it? I don't know He's a little Good bad Let's find out So lastly, there's the massively crucial dc aspect of the main villain massively crucial. It's not even a little Not even a little crucial It's massively crucial the part of the word crucial is to define it as it's it's it's crucial It's the thing you need like It's massively also. What do you mean dc movies? It's it's like it's crucial for any movie with a villain. Is it not? You think so why is why just these why these sentences? Which here form of general sod again with a sod is the greatest dc villain we've had so far Up for you. No. No, he's not fucking shit. He's got nothing on max lord. It's not even close. Yeah max lord is way Better. Yeah, it's not even close sod's a fucking idiot zod didn't either incredibly stupid or he was Programmed stupid if you will by his biology Like fuck me he was he was programmed to be a rebel Well So the idea is that he wants to defend krypton no matter what and as his soldier Upbringing tells him he has to kill the council because they're a threat to krypton Oh, I wouldn't have programmed that into the well, I mean, it's not even I don't even know if that's what it I'm just like I don't know like Remember, he's like used at the um at the last like fight. He's like, uh, I'm a soldier and I fight for krypton krypton's gone You've destroyed my soul. I'm gonna make human suffer my soul. Yeah Yeah, he literally said I'm gonna make if on dies make everyone else suffer. He says I'm gonna make human suffer I'm gonna take them from you one by one one by one. Okay. Yeah And then general responses because the dialogue is incredible You're a monster that I've got to stop you And then and then so You can learn how to write a story in 10 minutes just go to blinkest and Oh my god, they are How to write a story story Yeah, I feel like this is gonna make people feel over qualified. You think this is yeah, because they'll be like Look at how many books I've read. It's like, oh, have you read all these books? Well, I've read like the parts that somebody somewhere who I don't know decided were important Do you think they have a summary of a thing that's like how to summarize stories? Well, I mean like I said, there's something called story work. Oh, oh, yeah, maybe probably who knows That'd be useful. Yeah, man. I'm just so tired of reading. I just wanted to be over Yeah DC aspect of the main villain which here comes in form of general sod How come that one dude's so fucking tall? He's he's he's present in multiple parts of the movie. He's just this big dude I didn't even notice that shit. There was just I have like this fucking Who's the uh lurch or whatever his name is just in the back with this big ass self being all big Oh Up for you to decide, but he's definitely up there among the greatest No No, look for the audience we've we've done four on the newest arc of the dc We we've got max lord is at the top Ares and Zod and doomsday and is that Lex Probably they're all pretty they all got a lot of problems, but max is at the top for sure Max is something doomsday isn't as low as the others because he's just a beast Yeah, he's just an evil monster I guess. Yeah, what can you really say is wrong with him? He's just like, well, he's a weird creature trying to kill everything As an Ares well, then I will destroy you Ares is almost as broken as odd. I'd say I'm not even sure which one is worse They're both they both have the same problem, but they're close And then um lex Wait, did he say zad was among the best for dceu or all superhero movies? Uh dceu I think with him that could be either way who the fuck knows Well, the thing is is when we think about our other villains It's like, oh the people from suicide squad whose names I can't even remember And then we got steppenwolf right here who was fucking awful Aquaman is like That's such a low bar even whoever is the best hero in the dceu still sucks Yeah, they're on par with the worst from the mcu stuff like kicilius or um, you know Because people will be like no dc's got a really great rogues galerates. Like they do yes, but not in these films. They don't An incredible rogues gallery in other media, but not in this series Black man, uh, yeah, he's great Black man. So and then there was a guy in shazam. Uh the guy. Oh, yeah Come on Oh, dude, I saw someone say mark strong should have been lex luther. It's like hell. Yes, mark strong. He's great He could have been a really good lex luther We're shame Oh, yeah, yeah But instead we had feeding sweets to a man That wasn't awkward at all. You know the oldest lie in america senator is that power can be innocent Charlie rangers are good. He's such a tryhard edgy little annoying shithead Yeah, that's like hey devils come from the sky. Oh parademons. They're coming from the sky. Ain't that clever guys? You know at least the music was good the fact that he's I like the idea that he's going to throw a step And wolf on screen is like look how bad it could be it's like That's really bad. That's real bad. That's really bad We're probably gonna conclude worse than stepham wolf, by the way He probably won't stepham wolf was just an evil man Yeah, that's why doom stays better than zod because doom stays just an evil monster Like there's nothing to fuck up if you want to say he's bad like Then you have to say stuff like, you know, like lutz is bad now. It's like why Because because he's singular in his goals Bad because he's his CGI looks crap and it will look terrible and It's not a cut all right guys. You see those spiky shit like god damn. Oh, yeah, he's so spiky. I'm looking forward to it But he's definitely up there among the greatest You know already based on the fact that he's not a hulking mass of empty CGI acting like a little kid lost in a store Where is my mother? There's a lot of good things to say You will yeah, he's much worse than that Yeah Yeah, like zod's really bad I will find you I will find you Say about zod Look at my villains video. For example, you'll find that he fills all the qualities mentioned there But the reason I'm pretty sorry Here is the one and only way to write villains, please also, please don't put zod on par with hannibal lector Yeah That should be against he's like one of the better villains in movie history. Don't do that shit Zod is Shit as a villain He definitely checks the box for stupid idiot I bet you the qualities he has for villain is like he wants the opposite of what the main character wants He's generally mean about it. He's mean You have these things you have a villain you see in his logic that he cannot see They're not so different you and I I bet you those are the qualifications he has for like what makes a good villain It's just like, oh nothing about how they're executed. It would be the kind of video They are a villain that encourages me to make stuff when I'm like whenever someone makes a ruling for like how a villain should be I'm always immediately like oh, can we make one that doesn't have follow that rule and is good That's fine. Oh, yeah, exactly. So I said alice is better than zod Alice has motivations at least. Yeah, that's like sort of makes sense. Is the the world never punishes her She's insane. Yeah, she is she's super irrational and insane and the plot lets her get away with anything Yeah, like but there's like something there with zod. There's basically nothing. He's just a fucking idiot who's evil But an Villain's video for example, you'll find that he fills all the qualities mentioned there. But the reason I'm bringing zod a Like him in the context of what we've talked about so far because one of the most central key ways Zod work is by you just say one of the most central key ways that works One of the most central key ways. God damn it, dude But I don't even know the flab of your video like you need to cut it For because one of the most central key ways that man of steel makes zod work is by organically tying him Into both its purposeful character as well as plot work in order to build him into something that every villain should be Oh that sentence Yeah, I I'm getting the can I can I have a blinkest version of that sentence? Moller, please provide us with the blinkest summary of that sentence. I'm gonna have to hear that again I don't want to get caught in another we have to repeat filmento 10 times to discover what he I'll do it one more time. I'm not writing it down people like you're down. I was like no no I can't handle it anymore Are because one of the most central key ways that man of steel makes zod work is by organically tying him into both Its purposeful character as well as plot work in order to build him into something that every villain should be related to The plot and characters so he's good And basically he says that zod works because he's related to the plot and characters. Yeah, how could he not be? I mean like I mean he's the villain like by definition. He is I mean because if he wasn't that he wouldn't be present That's what I mean He wouldn't be in the fucking story if he wasn't relevant to the story. I don't understand what the fuck this What is the qualification here? What is he about to say that makes a good villain? As well as plot work in order to build him into something that every villain should be formidable and understandable Not every villain has to be formidable Understandable at all like sorry lovecraft fuck you Doesn't villain have to be formidable. I don't know was Zemo formidable in and of himself. No Certainly Yeah, so Villains come in like categories. You want to sort them into categories? You have like non-character villains and character villains The non-character villains are the monsters and the lovecraftian Unstrosities and the forces of nature right like the antagonists like a like a disaster movie There's not a villain like it's tornadoes and mudslides and things. They just don't have characters Um, and then you have the character villains. I think the stream just died. Oh, no Well, don't worry everything you're saying will be caught anyway locally so you can keep going. Yeah, okay. Go ahead All right, uh, but yeah, I would start off by separating them into these two very broad categories And then working from there like zod is a character So he goes into this category. It's a have a good character villain A lot of the times it's good to have things that make them You want to be able to understand their motivations? Why are they making the decisions they're making? Are those decisions well informed? Does it make sense to them to make those decisions? And the yada yada yada yada yada here But yeah, definitely wouldn't agree with formidable. I'd agree more with But understandable definitely Did he actually say that zod is understandable? So he's not He's not understandable. He's not he's make no sense. And by the way He is contradictory formidable superman should be able to smash this kind of like immediately Yeah Yeah, someone someone said what about joker? He's not understandable. I was like, yeah, he is. Whoa. Whoa. Yeah, joker's understandable I think someone said he's not formidable though, which I wouldn't necessarily disagree with um Having the gun Wait, wait, wait. Are we talking about like the the normal joker? Are we talking about walking phoenix joker walking phoenix joker? Um, oh, yeah, he's very understandable, but he's not that formidable. I understand he could be like Well, he kills people. I'd like formidable in the sense. That's a guy. Yeah, you you see him You don't go like, oh my god. Look at the strength and power. Ah It's And also zemo is not formidable Well, that was that's why I brought him up Like I don't I think that that's part of his strength as a villain is that he's not formidable in and of himself Yeah, I would say that. Yeah, it's his he's secondhand formidable and that all of his skills and his talents allow him to do things He's like a spy or a he's like, yeah I guess Whether we're using the word formidable strictly in the sense of can they beat you up as opposed to what can they do to you? You know, I would also want to to sort of pause and say like what if we did have a standard superhero movie And the enemy was a zod like figure, but we never actually know his motivation. Can that never work? No, I don't think that can't work. I feel like we could generate scenarios where you have these You know creatures that I guess I still I want to move away from them. I want them to have What about tribbles? Tribbles are not formidable, but they can cause serious problems. They can be the antagonist of a plot I mean the trouble with tribbles is that they're no trouble at all Can um Can you go on have a villain like zod that you don't actually ever find out his motivation? Can the film still work? I'm sure there's a way to do it. I I'm not willing to say that it's impossible I mean ultimately if you had a movie that was all from batman's perspective that was man of steel And so he's trying to understand and deal with these aliens But he can never get to them and he can only ever try and help people survive the onslaught that happens around him I feel I feel like that could be a good movie even if he never finds out why they're here Yeah, they they arrive here for a reason that's sufficient for them. Apparently they're doing things All we really need is that that their behavior not be Contradictive so the behavior of whatever the antagonist is even if we don't know what their motivation is at least it's not contradicted by Two different things they do. You know what I mean? So like we don't know exactly what their motivation is But everything they do seems like it's consistent With itself. I don't know if that makes sense. I feel like that could work And to someone so he said zod wants to save his species. That's understandable The issue is that he goes about it in like the actual worst possible way Well, yeah, so to help them understand I'm fucking ripping apart rags his house and he's like why and I'm like I'm thirsty and I grab a drink of water Oh And he keeps doing it and then someone's like you see you understand more is thirsty you understand rags and you're just like, uh I guess so The way he went about satisfying his goal. I didn't really understand though Like I really hate everyone who was like, oh, well, he's bred to be a soldier But then like why doesn't he want superpowers like what why are we suggesting soldiers are just fucking idiots? Oh, that's another thing because that's just like a trope is that generals and soldiers are the worst possible people to engage in combat However, a woman who picks up a pistol for the first time is a crack marksman Yeah, well, it's just like he wants his people to survive and he chooses the worst possible tactical strategy To do so so he chooses to wage war on the entire planet when his entire species could survive on this new planet And they don't like comfortably a superman Yeah, so like that's an awful strategy to take Um, is hitler a bad villain because he lost the war. What a fucking question Alrighty someone pipe that out approved of it in their mind and then hit enter and spent that publicly This whole formidable thing we need to make sure that there's a reason to have this word because some people are like How can you have a villain that's not formidable? Like we're trying to argue is it possible to have one that's non formidable and of course with zemo people saying like Well, his capability as a as a antagonist definitely makes him formidable So being at that point, I would be like, okay. Yeah, I guess it's baked into the definition at this point Like how can you just be a villain? Um, well, that's what I mean. I would want formidable to mean like in this context I I assume this is what he's going for like it's someone that you're going to essentially Be scared of from their power and I'm like you don't have to have that for a villain Um, you can have someone who is working against the heroes entirely and you know, I I I'm just using it as an example Okay, but um anyone anyone here see predators? The new one no 2010 one. Yeah the robert rodriguez. Yeah. Yeah. Where where what's his face the guy from 70s show Yeah, he's the bad guy in their group and the way he's the bad guy is he kills people with like poison agents and slitting them with his Scalpel whatever and syringes and you know the idea is that he gets people when they're Unassuming and he'll get them with poisons injections and stuff And it's like I wouldn't describe him as formidable in the traditional colloquial sense of the word rather he is um Using sneaky as picell would say in game of thrones using a woman's weapon poison scalpel so yeah, like If you simply mean by formidable they have the ability to affect the hero's like existence in a negative way I'd be like what a worthless fucking word to put on screen Yeah, I would I would replace formidable with effective Sure And then understandable though. I still think this is what I mean like I wouldn't even this broad I'm like careful careful. You're treading on potentials even with these The formidable is born from the plot the purpose of it being to make zod a worthy antagonist that we can find dangerous What a sentence another banger of a sentence words Oh, we might actually lose to and the way this film accomplishes that is simply by taking the main plot and in very Why he throws he throws a house he's evil so wait So general zod is throwing the plot at the house. Is that what's happening here or His yeah, his bothered to say Bsu was attached to the truck So he threw the truck at the house. He threw the plot at it Well, the show throws the plot out the window. So maybe he's not throwing it out the window. He's throwing it into the window Yeah, that's what I was going into like maybe this is some sort of very 4d chess level Great villain that he throws the plot into the story. Yeah, I I used to like film it. So yeah That's you guys apparently don't know what formidable means I I literally made clear that the colloquial sense of the word has to go beyond is able to affect people through power or capability First definition that comes up is inspiring fear or respect through being impressively large powerful intense or capable Hence literally everything and I was like, there's no way he's putting the word on there If it's freaking like synonymous with villain in the first place as in Stands in the way of the hero in some way shape of form And not that that's the definition of villain But you get what I'm saying like if we if we have to have a meaningful difference Why why would it be meaningful to call someone formidable when they are you might enemy? We like oh well because they get in the way you're like, oh great Yes, I guess stormtroopers aren't formidable in mando, but um, correct They're not they're they're only they're effective only for plot requirement reasons not because of actual competency Which is like its own category Of what I would put them on because I would need to do is site that they killed the um The bounty the the the mandalorian's and sees it what it'd be like, ah, there you go. Yeah, that's Yeah, that's what I'm saying like this needs to be its own category of They're formidable off-screen for plot reasons that make no sense But when we see them, they're not formidable. I mean this kind of Yeah, the horrible writing makes us have to create categories of villains that don't make sense Yeah, because again, we're reaching the problem of just because you can actually Tick the box as in formidable means they they you know present a threat to our hero You know well stormtroopers killed a bunch of mandaloreans, so they are a threat to our hero mando It's like well Yeah, you say that and the box is ticked on paper But really that's a bunch of horseshit like in terms of our because also on paper We tick the box of they cannot in any way possibly harm the protagonist So both of those boxes get ticked, which means now we have issues we have to resolve that we have to go back a step Well, it doesn't actually know what formidable means Capital I don't know how else to help however Yeah, however words have words don't have meanings. They have shared understandings So when you say something and you know that it's going to cause a lot of confusion You have to be like, okay a better word would be da da da da for these reasons that we've elaborated on Yeah, and the other point that comes to mind is that like are any of the other villains in the dc U movies that he thinks are bad are any of those villains not from stephen wolf is formidable. Absolutely all of them are Absolutely. Yeah, so The whole point of this video is here's how to do Anything that's a big problem with the dc u every villain is crazy strong I mean that was my whole point is the there's no point using this word if it's going to be this broad You have to use something else you have to be more specific because fucking everything is formidable Because mysterio is he formidable? It's like well not him specifically, but the drones are I guess that's another problem It feels like the kind of writing advice you'd get in a synopsis of a writing book The villains should probably be formidable and you should probably understand what and who they are It's formidable when they present Even their helmets look like skulls and you're like what? So evil Wait, what do you like are they formidable? Did they present an obstacle for your hero? It's like man. I'm well on the way to making a really great story now I'm gonna make it so that my hero who is guy an enemy is guy with gun did it Understandable you you fuck my wife I did it I created the best of the dcu I I created story as I was told to by uh Blinkest The purpose of it being to make zod a worthy antagonist that we can find to find worthy Yeah worthy there's some strange way to describe it and dangerous someone we might actually lose to and the way this film No, there was never a chance of losing to him because it's superman just had to fucking walk through the world engines He just doesn't until the end. That's the thing. That's why we constantly suggest and our watch through just punch it And then he doesn't and then he decides to punch it and then that solves the problem And it's really weird in Superman stories. He's a little bit too powerful makes it really hard. Yeah Yeah Just that is by taking the main plot and inverting it for his pov in a krypton prologue It becomes very clear that's his pov. Oh these censuses Inverting it for his pov I'm guessing he's gonna try and argue that like if you look at it from zod's perspective He's on his own It becomes very clear that zod's external objective is to save his dying race for which he needs the codex That holds the power to artificially breed kryptonian babies for specific pre-assigned roles and it's pretty evident How far his wound you know, it would be interesting if he said no no more codex. I'm destroying the codex We're making babies the old-fashioned way. No destiny. No fate We're fucking our species into success That wasn't interesting Well, just you know, if they don't have the population to be able to do that They just birth the things from the pods but no You know, yeah, they can just be just like yeah, you're a kryptonian If his goal is primarily first and foremost to save his species then why doesn't he just fuck that female officer? You know, like why is he so desperate for the codex when his primary goal is just to further the species in general They can't do that anymore. I guess They don't have the bits Yeah, how do they stop? How do they stop people from like making babies? I don't know the whole civilization Maybe because in my implication that is right in the world There's all sorts of social pressures like baked into them to avoid, you know Having standard births and all that but in this society, I guess they just don't I was gonna say maybe the assigned role are they implying the assigned roles took away their sex drives? Like they all became a particular aside with but that uh, no, that doesn't make sense. And how did yeah I can't I don't know. They didn't tell us specific preassigned roles And it's pretty evident how far he's willing to go to accomplish this goal Yeah, he kills one of the council members It's weird. Why did you kill the old lady? Someone says china rags. So They so chinese people fuck. Yes, they do So, I don't know. You know, there's a lot of chinese people. They're all very funny Well, there's a lot of things to address there. First of all, I'm guessing they're talking about the one kid policy That doesn't exist anymore. They stopped that Because there are a lot of adverse consequences to doing that as it turns out. Yeah So the average is the the average couple has to have Like two point something kids to keep the species going Yeah, you got you got to have Yeah, so if each couple has two kids the population ain't going up No, and as we as we find out in basically every developed country It tends to stabilize at the the rate of replacement Once it becomes stable civilization And yeah, they they establish at one point in this that we did population control. It's like why We just oh, yeah, they say we established population control. Why so you don't fill up the galaxy Still avoid filling the galaxy. Yeah, god forbid Okay They're meant to govern government establishing birth control. Yeah, but the people are still They're still having sex and having babies Also, they stopped that It's also that people so if you notice that they did it You'd also notice that they decided not to do it and they they stopped doing it to stop doing it because yeah and importantly for krypton the way the exposition is delivered is that they instituted population control because they were running out of resources on their home planet at the exact same time They stopped and abandoned all their other outposts around the galaxy. That's insane. No those no the the other outpost Didn't they stop? I thought they died because krypton died for some reason. Yes. No, they just said they abandoned them No, no, no, no, this it's both because they go to all the outposts and it's Yeah I'm realizing about how they abandoned those they say at the same time they were instituting population Should we have the wheel building discussion? We can because um, yeah, we can uh, just wait one moment I have to use the loo real quick. I will be right back very well. Um, I'm also Blue three potential videos to cover Jesus maybe we'll have to do another reef have a bad of steel rip The point that i'm saying that it makes absolutely no sense that they would institute population control at the same time That they abandoned space exploration because they're running out of resources That doesn't make any sense You're running out of resources and you're overpopulating your own planet. Why would you also at the exact same time abandoned all your space colonies Am I crazy? Am I losing my mind? What is this? I like efab, but when they step too far outside of film analysis, it's like jeez lull We're talking about what the hell are you talking about? Right now the wheel building about a steal That's the topic I don't understand. I guess I guess they talk about the china uh birth control thing well Okay, so I mean I you got to be more specific because the whole point about When a society becomes advanced enough it stabilizes that is just categorically true The quiet gotta be more specific when you say that we're wrong You got to tell us what we're actually wrong about specifically the quiet implications that something killed all the other kryptonian colonies I did not get that impression when I watched it I neither did I um Yeah, we can we can we can go over a bit more once once rags is back Any second all of western europe is below replacement. Yeah, except when there are immigrants and then it is at replacement But yeah, you're right below replacement a little bit No, I don't know you you just say you did it wrong you silly I don't know why we'd be appealing to that anyway when we're dealing with intergalactic civilizations Like right the rules probably change at that point. I'd say so Yeah, and we're also dealing with a civilization that has artificial Babies, so there's never going to be a population Control issue in terms of it going too far down Like yeah, how could how could it? So yeah, it's um, it's a weird one The guy probably doesn't like you talking about the desire to agree on definitions of words so people can communicate effectively Semantics is important We want a penis Crypto It's dangerous you gotta be careful of that one Well, I mean, maybe I'll just I'll just start it up right so The planet's running out of energy That's that's the big issue. That's where it all begins all of this starts at krypton running out of energy Um, of course they've cracked interstellar travel But they can't figure out how to create energy in any other way than harvesting their own core and destroying their own planet Yeah, I haven't figured out fusion. I guess Rip that so in response to the idea that they should I guess inhabit other habitable worlds the council says What evacuate the whole planet? Which is one of the dumbest parts the whole fucking movie like the the question at hand is do we all die? Or do maybe as little of us die as we can muster and they go. Yeah, all of us die. I guess All of us die. We're all in this together. All right Um, juror even says it's too late to save anybody on krypton Like he straight up just says like it's too late for people on krypton But uh, the codex can be sent and and you know, presumably we can terraform Another planet and begin anew so he's already wrong because Not only do people from krypton survive being cal l and what what's the schism name for Is odd just zod was it zod l his name is general zod Okay, well Those two Not cool enough for a good name like for some reason they didn't know Oh god, I can't even begin like their prison Protects people from being the planet. Yes, they get sent to the uh, the the super super um phantom zone Not only does it protect them from the explosion it releases them from prison as well. Like it's Fascinating So yeah, you could definitely survive it and we already know you could survive it by literally fucking leaving Krypton to go to any one of these amazing outposts. They've gotten over a hundred thousand years. So like He's just wrong completely fucking wrong But yeah, you know You can go and live on other planets. So we could have evacuated a whole bunch of people But we just say now we can't it's too late. Um Like like the obvious thing would be why could you send a person with the codex? But you can't get anybody off the planet in time because it's too late. And then that ties into something that Jor-El says to A clock later clock says why didn't you and mum come with me? And um, I was I was talking about this earlier. I'm trying to find the the quote Was just like oh because we can't Well, see that would have been better if you'd said we were unable to Um Scanning past the other quotes with Zod says stupid shit Um, I am back. Hello Foundation has to be built on something. No. No. No. Well, basically, um The question isn't answered properly Like clock is like why didn't you and mum come with me? And he says that um They are like failures Much like um Krypton was and much like Zod is And that their fate was like tied to the planet. He basically says like nah We weren't we weren't coming because we shouldn't not that they couldn't yeah, he Yeah, he just says I'm gonna go down with the ship Which is a really fucking strange thing to him say Um, I I certainly don't understand it at all like he He yeah, okay. I've got the quote we so in response to saying why didn't you and mum come with me? He says we couldn't no matter how much we wanted to no matter how much we loved you your mother and I Are a product of the failures of our world as much as Zod was. We're tied to its fate that's That's one of the things we're saying. Okay. Okay. Get on the starship. Yeah, I'd be like shut the fuck up and get on this Yeah, god damn it um No, like Zod fucking does without any problems Now if they wanted to go as far as establishing that it was impossible Like the they'd only got this one ship built which by the way, I still don't believe but fine But they don't say that they just say that their fate is tied to uh Crypto to the planet. Yeah, this is like, okay. I don't I just don't get that at all. Um And yeah, so then once the prison is broken open by the destruction of krypton They re-engineer the phantom drive which allows them to be trapped They re-engineer that into a hyperdrive so that they can travel the universe That's a good thing. One of them was like a fucking space in scientist Yeah, it's unfortunate that no one else cracked this other than as stated jor-el who created it for uh clock ship And that's why when you put those two together it creates a black hole Yeah, however, we're basing that into the assumption that surely so how do they get to all the other planets? Well because they Uh, they re-engineer the phantom drive into a hyperdrive from the prison they broke out of it turns their prison ship into a ship that could travel the universe I remember all those habitable planets the jor-el talked about I guess they just couldn't find any of those not one in the 100 000 years of traversing the universe There was just there's only earth Because that makes sense So that's not true though because we find all the colonies and stuff of all the people but they turned into skull people Well as it stated without krypton supporting them they would fall Just they just die But they got terraformed the world doesn't make sense because that's the thing. How is it that earth will survive if Krypton doesn't exist to support it. It's like oh, so that means they can survive without krypton supporting it Yes, and that's what jor-el described. He was like there's habitable planets out there. We've got the world engine Also special about is earth seriously the only planet that fits all these incredibly specific criteria Why don't they just go to mars and terraform it because mars doesn't work. It's not the same All right, you don't know But we you know us humans we would have been chill with that I think don't destroy us You can have mars give us access to your technology Well, well, you can be martians now Is it kryptonian tech requires a ton of energy which is clearly not an issue for their society by the way When zot arrives at outpost he is wearing a spacesuit while the corpse is not Implying the terraforming process needs to be run constantly So that doesn't solve anything that that further complicates things So I don't think the person died because so the so it's not even clear how the person died No, they just show up to the planet and everyone's a skull person. Yep In fact, I find it really odd the the way their bodies are placed. They're like, um Almost like they died screaming while shooting or something which by the way if Yeah, someone in chat said that that's a subtle implication of how they were killed It's like I feel like zod would have been able to tell that that was how they would have died fighting if that was the case They died fighting who each other Oh, well, I don't know some horrible that I managed to scan to the scene directly. There you go. He's like I don't know But um just just to further the point that the world building is awful This is what I was talking about earlier. So the line in the actual script is uh Jorrell says for 100 000 years our civilization flourished Accomplishing wonders and Clark says what happened Jorrell says artificial population control was established The outposts on space the outposts on space exploration were abandoned We exhausted our natural resources as a result our planet's core became unstable So at the exact same time that they're running out of resources they decided to stop Exploring other parts of the galaxy where they can find other resources. Yeah, they're habitable When everything's falling apart Jorrell says we can escape to other planets There are other habitable planets for us to go. Why would he say planets if he meant only earth? Yeah And if you this is the thing it doesn't work Jorrell described that as a thing you could do with krypton being exploded Okay, so it's not going to use krypton as support and there are habitable worlds out there worlds It's insane. None of it makes any sense at all. They they spanned across the galaxy They got everything set up. It was flourishing. It was great that suddenly they made a whole bunch of really weird decisions that destroyed everything Everybody explored for a hundred thousand years. It's all die a hundred thousand years A hundred thousand so much fucking time That's a lot of time There's a really great comment in chat someone said they literally did everything they could to die Kind of yeah, imagine how many kryptonians are around space. Like I don't I don't believe all of them died In their outposts. That's what I said all of this could have been prevented with the death penalty Before no the krypton's still have been exploded Before she explodes Jorrell's wife, I forget her name She she's asked if she wishes to like go anywhere by the robot and she says there is no refuge Like oh, that's not true though. You've literally sent your son to a refuge, but Yeah, I was like, oh the sun. Yeah follow his coordinates. Let's go where he's going um so What was I gonna say it was Oh, yeah When we talk about like civilization stuff if you're a if you're a species and you're at the point where for a hundred thousand years You've spanned across the galaxy and established all of these planets that you're living on like you won You did it. Yeah Yeah, like you're you you did it you won the game of life congratulations How how you collapse after that point on a galactic scale you have to come up with some crazy shit Yeah, I've got my story wise. We traveled the galaxy and ran out of natural resources. How How Natural resources of the universe If you can travel the galaxy they're like clouds of like diamonds out in space There's all sorts of like elements and resources just out there in It's when you say like insane numbers just go get them in Dyson sphere program You eventually unlock this thing it like harvests gas giants It's a machine that you just drop on a gas giant and it just starts harvesting materials out of it Oh, she's like I have one right next to me. I was wondering what I can do with it. Thanks It's an oxygen harvester. I set it up right next to her But yeah, the fact that they just all it went extinct like no, just fuck off No We're in a galaxy fucking it's terrible and painful It's insane. It's I don't believe it for a fucking second At least Wonder Woman has the excuse that it was a really badly told story from the people in universe. Okay Zeus areas and all that. No, it was just Wonder Woman's mum being an idiot It's just a prank guys, okay? But Jor else has all of this stuff very matter of fact that he was like involved in a lot of how it all went to shit like They wanted they were happy to just blow up the planet too. They didn't even like oh, maybe we should get on a ship I don't know But even yeah, maybe we should leave. Maybe we should like maybe we should do something And like I said, it would be better. This is not me saying this is what they should have done It would be better if there were huxes and went no the planet will be fine We will continue mining it ma ha ha and then it explodes what we got instead was you should evacuate and they go Evacuate the whole planet. Yeah, right Why are you saying that? Why are you? Who wrote that? Yeah, you should though What would you have us do evacuate? Yeah. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah, yeah I don't like them How to accomplish this goal All it takes is a few key scenes in regards to the plot to clearly establish just how motivated he is Oh, that part was really dumb Jor-El just doesn't execute zod. He clearly intends to he killed all of the other ones He just just stops. It's actually pretty funny because I was curious what was happening because I remembered It being the case Um zod is on the floor and he starts telling Jor-El's wife to not do this like he just starts appealing to her and Jor-El's just sort of standing there like It's like you killed all the other ones. Why didn't you kill him? He's literally trying to fucking kill your baby. Also as we point out in the e-fat movies Hey ranks, you know if you're gonna leave all of those soldiers outside as you point out It's like why were they all outside instead of in what do you think their one task could be? Let me see to secure the codex Um, well, they think the codex is in the building, right? So what what could he yeah So they arrive at the building to secure the codex What about the ones he says to stay outside while he goes and fights Jor-El himself without bringing them for some reason To make sure we're not interrupted to keep away the other guys to buy us time Oh, sure one thing I think maybe could be a thing is that they they detect I think a ship is is is leaving and of course when he gets out there he says to shoot The ship down Maybe by staying out there they could shoot any ship that immediately gets close or leaves Because they know that's a thing they don't have I mean they got all these they got all these ships with guns on them So Where I'm going with this is it's the worst of both worlds. They don't Go in when if they did Jor-El would have lost everything would have been destroyed But they also don't shoot down the ship when they could have they have to wait until Jor-El gets back outside To tell them to do so and then they're too late If the codex was on the ship leaving though, then why would they shoot it? Don't they need it? I don't have an answer for that question So I would imagine that they would That's actually possibly a pretty good point Yeah, so that so that's so the fact that they're out there is just dumb They should be in there securing like this is really really important This is kind of like the whole reason they're sort of doing this So you think they'd all be inside Getting it if you've got the streamer by the way, right? So that's clock ship right up there And this a big epic moment when they activate it and Zod's like no And then it lifts off I completely blanked when I was about to watch this for a second time I was like does he just escape and it's like no no Zod says like take that ship down And they almost do But another ship that you can kind of see in the distance there Um shoots down Zod ship If Zod like was slightly faster Or if he told his I know I know I know But I'm trying to get it like this is a problem on its own But then there's also the problem that Zod shouldn't want to destroy the ship anyway So basically he's triple stupid in this scene. He made three major mistakes Nice No, he was bred to be a soldier. He doesn't make This is the thing for the people who want to appeal to his like meatheadedness when it comes to being a soldier How come he's so shit at being a soldier? He was beaten by a scientist in a fist fight. He forgot he had a tentacle blade Yeah, yeah guys This is in case just just to declare the story doesn't make any sense in man of steel like none of it It basically makes zero sense from start to finish. It's a really bad movie If you like it, that's fine, but the movie's fucking shit Find him I will reclaim what you have taken. Yes You gotta break it up a bit. You know, I gotta break it up But yeah, just to bring you back down to the video he's gonna reclaim it, but you wanted to destroy it. Yeah, you nearly blew it up Um, yeah, so make up your mind Maybe he was hoping when he blew up the ship that the codex would fall out of the ship and he grabbed it And he just hold his hands out I just wanted to the phil mentos point here is that we can clearly tell what zod wants It's like good god, even though he's clearly contradicting himself and how I guess that's such a low bar We know what the villain wants You did it. You can write and this is the thing if someone was like, well, you think that's important Right, but well, yes, but like it's got to be more specific than that, right? It can't just be you need to know what they want and then you're good I will find him I will find him To put it in there he did it He did it. Is he played it like this to be like you see it's so clear what he wants Okay, let's find him. He said I will find him three times Volume redive that but he said capture that ship and destroy it. Is that true? I could have sworn he was going to go destroy it because it's like yeah, I'm pretty sure it's going to blow it up Let me I will replay the scene a moment a chat too. You can listen Actually wait, this isn't him speaking Audio copyright Bring that ship down Oh, he says bring that ship down So, oh, yeah, that means destroy it. I'm pretty sure that means destroy it Yeah, bring that ship down. He says I could have shown we were shown a targeting computer. Oh, yeah, they're aiming the guns. They aiming the gun at it Oh Target even says target locked inside of there like a fucking tie fighter pilot They get blown up if they had fucking organized this just seconds earlier Clark would be dead that's the end of the movie. Yeah crazy Well, I guess that's not the end of the movie. I guess after they just have to fuck now Bring that ship down gently I don't want to have to fuck this attractive woman next to me. Whoa, they hate that ship on nice reference Nice I will fine. Okay Show the penis ships as winds are eventually how come on y'all bum Oh, no, I can't believe they made those penis ships though. They were really funny Someone must have said something. I just wanted to be the Many people were passionately working on it and loved it. There's one guy giggling Who's like, what are you laughing at? What are you laughing at? It's like, oh nothing. That's great. It is. I love your I love your pods Like can I can I have a smaller vision that I can take home just as a sort of like Oh, you think it's more do you make these like should we make these pods longer or thicker? Do you think which one do you think's more important? No, do you think it's more important than it has great at girth? Oh, sorry. I mean with They have all the things like the concept are this modeled after it's just loads of dildos. They're like, hmm Yeah, something strange a new zack is just so innocent that he's just like what are these things by the way you're like, oh Like ancient weaponry He says some of the robins would use like oh And so when Zad eventually arrives to earth his motivation manifests itself through his own inverted plot. He stopped Motivation manifests itself through his own inverted plot. Yep. I said inverted What does inverted mean In this context when he started that sentence his motivation manifests itself and like stop stop whatever you're about to say Doesn't need to be said the way you just said it He speaks it's like wandering around the woods Who just eventually will get out like just eventually the path they take to get there will be ziggity zagety and up and down and around But eventually it sort of gets there maybe Ziggity zagety Needs to turn in the krypton in order to save his racist existence before the he doesn't need to he's explicit about that in the film He even says it's not necessary. Sorry. Oh, by the way the protagonist I don't know if you know with the protagonist is kryptonian He's superman and he's living on earth. Yep, okay Well, you know, he had some sad times when he was he was growing up and that's enough for krypton To for Zod to kill every human Stop him. Do we know that inverted plot? There's no question about his formidability if we don't give every why are you saying all of this this way? Why it's not an inverted plot. What does that even mean? He's like to assess his invertibility his formidable that you have to look at how it manifests It's a combo. Okay. I don't know what accident is specifically. I'm trying Does anyone know what that accent is can anyone does anyone have a good year for that? I'm just curious martian Scandinavian of some kind maybe Chat which is not which part of the world is he from? He's not german. Is he joining german? German finish zurbian russian finish spanish Spanish brazilian non-specific finish french swedish stupid germanium Romanian yeah, we got a couple of guesses in chat. I don't know. It's Love you in spanish. I don't know Part to guess There's no question about his formidability if we don't give everything we have to stop him now He won't be stopped at all if we don't give everything to stop and we won't be stopped. Okay Yeah, I Are you sure about that? I mean the motivation angle is so effective that it makes even zahd's right-hand soldier fahora more imposing than the Main villains in most of the other entries What? So he said zahd's motivation is so good It makes his underlings better than the hero the villains in the other movies. That's False. Did you learn that from reading that book? I would like to know what the other people think about all of this Unfortunately, they are just a unit of soldiers that have no thoughts of their own apparently like that's just how they seem to work The idea that she is nothing in this movie Yeah, so I mean like what is so special about her exactly it's like well, you know her boss He's got a real good motivation. So she does too Didn't he put her in the thumbnail? Yep Why? She's nothing. She's a blank slate. He's got the weird backstory next to her Just evil soldier lady. Yep evil soldier lady. I don't have morality. You do that means I'm bad What a great character. I don't have morality. All right She's so relentlessly motivated Relentlessly motivated Can I you know what we're gonna play this one more time the way this fight goes How edgy is it that she jumps lands and just like doesn't even look at them like yeah, you can shoot me Bitch doesn't do nothing. Yeah, that's not even like relentless motivation. She's she's being dramatic Yeah, what is what is this other than look how cool I am Isn't that just look how cool I am Yes, yep, absolutely pulling her relentless at that point. I'd be like well She's put she pauses to get the cabra give the cabra a good look at it like yeah I'm beard And yeah, I didn't like this portion as well because like there's just nothing these guys can do so it's just a matter of Yeah, look how awesome this is. She's just blasting through them. It's like, well, yeah, what else would happen? I don't know I wish Superman would stop her but Superman, you know He's busy off-screen Yeah, on all you want but as long as she's physically she doesn't even need the atmosphere Uh Well, yeah, that's another problem with this is that they're all able to take on clock with ease when the whole fucking point Was the earth's sun gives you super duper everything. That's what jor-el said Oh, I thought it was the atmosphere. Oh, well, whatever the either one both whatever It's just the fact that the um these guys seem to have it already And like the excuse I've seen people say is like, yeah, but they're soldiers like well, but that doesn't make you super strong If I saw a huge marine doing this, I wouldn't be like, well Also for people in chat saying it's the sun we're going from the movie It's very unclear what what the power comes from in the movie. Yeah, I always thought it was the sun We understand We know the Superman law is because people are even saying the yellow sun. It's like, yeah, I know I know no no no The movie it's very unclear if you watch what happens to different people at different times Because jor-el says the sun but then while he's on zod ship Uh, they turn the atmosphere back to earth's atmosphere and he gets his powers back. So It's a mixed bag They're not quite clear and they've got the sun shining on them in the movie But it's only once they release their um, they face things. Do they actually get affected? Oh, that's true. Yeah, yeah Yeah, jor-el says it's the sun but the film says otherwise. Yeah, just we're going from the film Okay, it's as painful for us as it is for you to listen to us say it Fulfill her mission she will you will not win forever human you say we will kill a million more She's Why would you play this? Oh Why like there's just nothing to that for every but it's so evil It's not about the fact that like for every time you prevent krypton from living again I will make this world suffer, you know instead. It's if you try to save people's lives I will kill more of them. You're like, what the fuck It's very malevolent It's not that she's indifferent to the suffering of humans because she doesn't care It's like she wants them to suffer despite him It's out On the other hand is born from the character side the purpose here being to make sod Not just an evil movie bad guy, but someone we can clearly perceive as a real person They don't have morality Yeah They brag about how they don't have morality. Yeah, this is like she's proud of it Yeah, this is the um the heavy cake and eat it sort of defenses of man of steel because simultaneously zod is too Soldier mode to be able to not do the smart thing. Sorry to do the smart thing But at the same time he's such an understandable character that's quite sympathetic and you're gonna understand his motivations He's like wait a minute. Wait a minute. You can't have it both ways either He's this like he's bred to be stupid or he's a real person with like real motivations and he's understandable They bred him to be stupid So in I don't know about it. You can't have both. Yeah Which again is done inner character journey of finding his own place in the universe and inverting it We've had a child's on how is it inverted? You need to explain what you mean when you say inverted Because like maybe you will how is he just has a different drive. It's not inverted different things Just an heresy Unlike Clark who was naturally born zod was artificially bred into the pre-assigned role of a soldier And so he genuinely cannot accept krypton's demise because based on his own inverted inner character belief His very existence is dependent under being a krypton for him to fight for Wow, where was that? um Well, that's where the problem comes in with um, he still makes choices that clearly go against whatever he would have been programmed for Like killing the fucking council of the world. He's supposed to defend Yeah, do you be like, well, this is just the ai going nuts Like it's it's it's program is just like that's what I gotta do. Um, he's making his own decisions and using his own judgment He's not an automaton. I can't pretend that he was just bred to make every decision that he makes Yeah, possibly because if if they were breeding people to uh based on Like they are breeding people to act in a certain way after krypton was destroyed Then they knew that krypton would be destroyed which means of oh wait. Oh, shit. That's where we live We should do something and then they stuff happens. And yeah, I think and also Say krypton or to restore krypton. He goes about it in like the worst possible way Yeah, he says um when when when everything's been destroyed except him He says I exist solely for krypton Like or something like that. And so without it. He's just like he's lost now and he just this is probably really bothered me Right when you have a thing designed with a purpose and then that purpose becomes an impossibility You know, like dark fate did this and so the terminator became a draper. It's like, okay That's something I guess that he could do With with this he's like, well, I'm gonna kill everyone on earth Like, oh Of all the things you could have done You have chosen to do and and I guess it's because he he feels that clocks stole his soul from him Um, and yeah, so this is the thing you use this idea that he's he's bred to defend krypton And so without being able to do it He's nothing he wasn't gg mode until the um the codex or rather the the the pods thing Was destroyed the world engine being destroyed didn't seem to set him in in a position of it's over Like the idea of he has to live on earth wasn't out of the question because I imagine krypton isn't a place It's a people Yeah I got it. Yeah, so Um, and again, that's what the film missed out on was having the moment of you can't do the world engine thing anymore So will you live alongside humans? And then you can have it be that he's just like humans are scum. Fuck you It's all right But we never did it superman burst into the ship and destroyed it and said krypton had his chance Oh god So, yeah, uh needs work I Only to protect krypton That is the For which I was born Yep, so okay So now that there's no krypton you're gonna kill everyone new planet. What do I mean? Like I don't see how that Is well, he doesn't like uh clock he thinks clocks an asshole so Remember like if you didn't catch it rags clock says you're a monster and I'm gonna stop you Yeah, I don't know why that happened. So if you were unclear, uh, zod is a monster now Oh, I I picked up on some subtle clues that led me to that. Uh, yeah Yeah, um a soldier without a war Right, like that's that's what they say about cap sometimes and in the mcu. It's a really cool and interesting concept They did fuck all with it in this other than he's crazy now He doesn't want to kill superman so he can rule this new world Or anything he doesn't want to dominate. He doesn't want to take charge. He doesn't want to make He said like a different way You know a part of his like interactions with clock could have been like, why didn't you take over these people? You're better than them that sort of thing and then when he's near defeat He's like if I kill you I can become You know the king of earth or whatever like if I can't make krypton, you know This way then I'll make krypton You know, I'll make this place like krypton in a different way Like I'll change the culture and I'll change the everything because I have that power now I'll people saying Oh, why didn't you know tariff on Mars? They never talk about it. They don't tell us it's an impossibility They don't tell us anything I asked I'm like if you can terraform just like go to mars That's the thing I Automatically assume that they can't do that but the film never says it from what I remember This is one of the problems that horrifically bad writing creates is that when we're trying to figure out the movie We can't tell if it's an actual aspect of the movie or if it's just the shitty writing Like we don't know Where did you learn to criticize movies on a farm? I've been shooting the earth with a blue skybeam just because it looks cool But because doing so is the only purpose for which he exists Shooting No You know, if he were if he were a smart person and his goal was to preserve kryptonian life He probably wouldn't wage war on the planet Yeah, because generally war makes the amount of people go down Well, uh, thugnificent said they clearly needed a livable planet. It's like, did you see what they were gonna do to earth? Fucking raise that shit And if you're trying to save kryptonians and you don't have many of them left Do you think you would like hyper value each of them individually? I would like to present Zark with a flower and I'll be like you're gonna kill all of these things You know and then a tree you'll be like, you know useful wood is do you know what we can do with it? You want to obliterate it? Look at this house. There's people living here. Do you have to blow it up? I'd say Look at this nuclear plant. If you blow it up, it's gonna be bad. Let me tell you Have you noticed that you look quite a bit like the humans on this planet? Have you noticed that they're very very similar to you? Yeah, I bet if he had sex with a human female he'd probably just make a kid They seem to be exactly the same That seems to be the way that it works in spider-man Like superman seems to just be able to do that anyway for whatever reason you think they'd have different dna, but you know So krypton proved that peace kills more people than war That's because kryptonians are Parted so generally they blew up their own planet. That's the count That has nothing to do with war or peace. That can happen Individually if I For starters, you can do that whether there's a war happening or there's not a war happening But anything you have to tone separately You expect it to be more common during war the planets get blown up than peace, but If we're talking about you know a guy who's really highly valuing kryptonian life and in a war people die He's like, yeah, maybe we shouldn't do war because I don't have many people that I could afford to lose Like I'm really really low on people right now Don't necessarily agree with what he's doing, but we understand don't necessarily agree. Oh god, you know, this reminds me a lot of um of uh, I remember they Fuck I think it was a guy who wrote halo five. He's like no see kortana like wanting to rule over all Organics or kill them. Look it we don't like it, but it makes sense. She's doing something that makes sense We just don't like it. I'm sick of people always say that Yeah, did anybody agree with zod? No So there's that Someone in the chat said, yeah, he's a soldier war is the only option he considers and it's like guys Like are smart typically about when they choose What were the soldiers on krypton doing during peacetime? Were they just slapping people like I mean really like soldiers are working towards a goal, which is the end of the war Like soldiers don't just love being in the thick of it and just say I know like what a terrible defense You're like, hey, they're soldiers. They don't know anything but shooting people. You're like, what are you talking about that? Yeah, so when soldiers go into like a town to liberate it, they just shoot everybody in the town, you know They're just crumbopulous michael It doesn't matter children animals old people don't matter. I just love killing Soldiers will have a context for peace. They will know what it is. They will possibly work toward it. I would say Come on He's just such a well-written soldier Here I go kill it again Which he exists We don't necessarily agree with what he's doing But we understand why he's doing it and that understandability is what makes him a person instead of a caricature To clarify there are some caricature like figures in real life who had reasons for their insane things that they did that doesn't Thanos I would say he is almost the textbook definition of a caricature like Yeah, he is evil men Evil bad soldier man and his right hand person is an evil bad soldier lady and they're evil bad space people and they're evil bad Yeah, they height they height humans for some reason. Well, it's just Comically The darksaber Yep, I mean again, like I said, there's actually an interesting question on this ship I'm going to address because it's a stupid movie, but at the same time I just can't believe he's making this appeal after everything he did to clock in this movie It's yeah, no self-awareness at all, but okay. You might think this is obvious Skull pool All you have to do to find an instance where it's not present is look at the Oh, it's like when he tried krypton, he makes this ship go boom It's like, well, why did you fucking drown him in skulls you idiot? Oh, why is my cloth there? Oh, yeah, why is he bringing in? Why is he bringing in max? You might think this is obvious But all you have to do to find an instance where it's not present is look at the latest dc universe release Oil And just like with the hero giving your villain wait, what that's it You're not gonna elaborate but no no no Max working towards a goal that was well reasoned and he was getting oil to actually make his company have a product to sell He's trying to save his company and he's trying to save his reputation by doing so When he finds out he can't get the oil he takes all of his men instead That will help him to further his goals Yeah, you're making me Yeah, max is way better than god. It's not even close Absolutely max is uh Max is good. Yeah, it is odd for sure Better not say max lord is better than god. He's way fucking better. I'll just stand a chance max is way better This is easy And remember we're the people who absolutely shredded wonder woman 84 on three different videos that were longer than five hours Please don't try and pretend like we're like hey, we like 84. It's better than bad. It's like no, they're both shit But one of them This is like two out of 10. This is the worst of the dce eu so far Um, it's still the best villain or antagonist Yeah, and just like giving your villain an inverted inner journey also feels that you never explain what inverted means He doesn't he just has a different he has a different inner journey. It's not Yeah, it's like God, I hate that it makes it sound so much smarter than it actually and just like with the hero Oh, uh, uh, thunder. I said, what do we need for is more entertaining, right? Absolutely. Man of steel is miserable For sure Add it out. Not even a contest. Man of steel is just gray blobs moving around the screen And then a whole city explodes Giving your villain an inverted inner journey also feels that villain and his ultimate clash against the hero with emotion When carcans odd are fighting for the earth They're not fighting just for the earth But also to decide which of the internal journey answers is correct So that's dumb because they shouldn't be in conflict at all. Yeah, what do you mean? Which of the internal drives are correct? They're absolutely against each other to begin with So like the idea that is the correct answer to let krypton win or to save earth from the potential crypt It was like, how about they both coexist? No one ever gets to ask this question Zod doesn't even like you're you the scene you're using in the film Is zod's basically his first conversation With clark where he drowns him in skulls and Like why are you presenting this like it's like which one of their goals will be the one that's like superior It's like one of them just wants genocide the other one doesn't why Why are you equating these as if they're like, uh, you see it's the inverse clock Was to save everybody was to kill everyone who's will work It is the inverse you see it all makes sense. It's all coming together To a predetermined best or to be born to choose your own purpose and when clark Superman has drive and zod has They're not so different him and him Yeah You and I were the same Always managed to accomplish is Saying clark got to choose his destiny while zod was forced into the soldier one But at the same time that doesn't mean he doesn't get to make any decisions zod. I mean Still does Yep Born to choose your own purpose and when clark ultimately reigns supreme and destroys the last hope for there to ever be a Krypton again, it sets up this really personal emotion-based climax I just I love the whole destroyed city in the background terrified and all the humans Everyone is just dying in the background. Dude, were you commenting on how you learned to fight on a farm? I was like, oh, I'm so into this This is Without krypton has a purpose and when a soldier has no for them to do is fight until death Okay Without krypton zod no longer has a purpose and when a soldier has no for them to do is fight until death No It did The gist is that while he has no Krypton to defend anymore and so when a soldier doesn't have a purpose they just fight till the death the fucking cat's talking about All right insane Like after world war two ended it's like the war's over guys. They all just went insane and started killing each other I don't think he had a hot take here. I don't think he understands He must have a terrible reception of what soldiers are must do when the soldier has no purpose. They fight. You're like, what are you what? They go back and get jobs Yeah, without krypton zod no longer have you heard of veterans before just I want I don't know if the skip is a part of the video at this point or not Or if I just kept getting unlucky. It's a purpose and when a soldier has no for them to do is fight Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's a that's a built-in skip because I was watching the seconds. Yeah Do you think do you think you cut out something? maybe All I can gather from this is when soldiers have no purpose they fight If I turn to death, yeah, that's what I heard. Okay Rambo These humans you adopt I will take them all from you one by one And I'm gonna stop you Well, yeah, this this is so this is probably tying it to the whole like Zod's Zod says at one point like this this ends with one of you or me dying Like so because Zod's a soldier without a war. He just wants to die now because he's got nothing to do Which is just like what the fuck did they do on krypton when there was peace? Yeah, oh my god the emotion As a result of Zod's inner character drive being stolen from him We get this ultimate finale his inner character drive being stolen from him Because I don't know about you guys, but I'm having such an emotional climax right now Yeah watching these superman smash Zod's face along the side of these buildings killing all of these more innocent people It's real. I'm very emotional. It's a stress movie. We need to cut to bat about being like what the fuck is wrong with you. Thank you Fight just a big bombastic battle for the earth, but something much more intimately emotional We're getting close to the end folks man forcing another to kill his body the same way his soul has already done The same way his soul already died Also, if he's trying to stop Zod To the right to kill those people then why does he twist his neck to the right? Yeah, I guess That's superman now they died they got lasers Oh Such a like You've already destroyed my soul I I sad face There you go guys made it perfectly clear It's probably the same way you killed the soul. Oh Oh, I get it the emotional payoff. It's too much Oh, sorry, it was the same way his soul already died That is so great. You must kill his body the same way his soul already died I'll say ending man of steel with salt Aka the closest the dcu has ever gone to the finale of civil war So the truer that might be the more pathetic the dce you get Good lord Oh Just gives me hope that maybe one day we can get there and the way to begin is to take Imagine your bar is hopefully we can get back to bad of steel That's just losing oh jeez Maybe one day we'll be shit Hopefully we can make it back to maybe one day we can get back to shit instead of absolutely abysmal Shit steels Purpose and use it explore your hero with one inner driving struggle test your hero free external plot components And then yeah, you you watch with the villain got this Oh That video was rushed as fuck wasn't it? Oh, yeah Yeah But it just came out recently didn't know I could record the line again, but instead I just text it fucking Wait, we got it Just end it it's over now It's not like he rushed it to get it out when men of steel actually happened. He didn't he released us like this month Maybe he wants to the head of justice league. Maybe like his next one would be um that man I guess Three external plot components and then weave all of that together with the villain Oh, he doesn't like the sound cue Like get to the appropriate point to cut it. It just it really is like he just ended it He accidentally He barely talks about he barely talks about the woman he's devoted the thumbnail to Well, well, it's nothing to talk. I was gonna say but his commentary on her is she's great because of the person she works for Like what matters so much about her is how much we know about zod apparently like what he has to praise about her isn't even about her Why is her knife round at the end? I don't know. It doesn't look very effective, does it? Butter knife a krypton butter knife which is funny because it's meant to look like a crazy cool knife, but it's not it's Which is like a knife flimpy That is flimpy knife. I guess that would really hurt to get stabbed with but I mean she's strong, right? So she's putting that in yeah, but like on krypton. She wasn't strong. So that knife would have been worthless That's so It's a torture device. He just stabs people with it a lot Imagine like a human was fighting an alien and they once met they got like a butter knife and they're like, oh, shit I hope he doesn't realize this is for like butter This is just avid people Little did you know that we are butter aliens Well, um, we did it Perfection film perfection Steel is perfection man of steel is it's horrible. I don't even know what to say It's really really bad caliber of defenses for it, um I guess What what it might even be bottom tier dceu at this point? I suppose and now we're gonna have to like Do a second e-fap for the next ones because we got we got a lot of see what she has to get to already at four and a half hours I got four and a half hours time flies when you're having Okay Because there were two more, right? Well, there's just two other videos about how man of steel is actually great though right Um Yeah, the the one from twin perfect is called why you're wrong about man of steel Well, how long is that one? 37 minutes Oh Trunk of an e-fap to do that. There's no way we're getting that one done This is 18 minutes and it took us a while. Yeah, you can say The other one is 11 minutes All right, um, oh god, yeah It's to do another one. We've got shit tons of messages to get to we've already got a huge backlog That's a bad point. That's a bad point. So, um, yeah, we'll just we'll reconvene, you know the dc arc guys It's gonna be a long There's a lot of fruit on that tree. Oh, yes It needs a pickin Yeah, absolutely. So crap Um Means yeah, we'll we'll we'll just start answering what it'll be fun to delve back into the beginning of this stream All right, it's like two streams in one. Oh my god Such rich content No one likes equitable. We'll stop in the stream. It's gonna be another fucking four hours more than likely Yeah, you know how it goes guys, you know how it goes But um, I guess yeah, if anybody wishes to jump out at this point, this would be possibly the time I'm I'm chilling I am I might get some coffee, but yeah Hi, all right. I'm also chilling. I'm gonna go fix me a drink and I'll be right back Actually, give me give me like 10 or 15 minutes and then I'll be back. That's a long time for coffee. Hurry it up Well, I'm also gonna do other tasks, but I'm not going anywhere. So Raise it nurture it What? I didn't what the coffee bean you're gonna plant it Yeah, I'm gonna I'm well. I got to calm it down before I boil it. So, you know He's just gonna be stressed now. Otherwise coffee beans like you have to slowly turn the water I almost said the water volume up As somebody mentioned the coffee had its chance Fringy has to fight emus to get his coffee. Yeah, like I got I got coffee sitting And every time I need to get coffee I need to get a katana and um to capitate A very ferocious emu that's blocking my path Um, but the emus the emus have been a bit preoccupied with their war with the casuaries It's um, it's it's a stalemate at the moment, but the battle of the song equivalent for emus and casuaries is um You know, it's coming We're all a little bit concerned about it I mean, I'm not concerned about it because I don't have to deal with that Because you're very far away. That's right. It's not a problem. You have to If they learn how to fly or swim If they learn how to fly it would be game over. Yeah, you can imagine imagine like you're living on the west coast of america You wake up one morning and just see a bunch of emus flying in Fly my pretty sky Say get a machine guns to start gunning down people on like what's venice beach? Well, that'd be too Or would it be more like saving private ryan, but just the other way around the people on the uh, the landing craft the emus the door the time Just shooting them. Yeah The emu war too the second grade emu war. Hey look, all right. It's um, it's it's it's it's it's it's sooner or later All right Was that leave peach you alone Oh, fuck peach you she attacked me Oh, he No, but actually yeah, I'll be back. I'll be your coffee nerd. Yeah Fringy Fringy has to filter the coffee through a didgeridoo Um, all right, so the first one is poop Nice This film is Hello long-eyed moodle fringeloid and captain. Oh, also. Hi, right? Who's a good boy? That's right Who are all the butt screeches for you? Oh boy Oh, no, no, that's that Um, did you see chris stuckman's jehovah's witness video? He revealed how much he was radicalized and the struggles he had he also came out as pansexual All right Okay. Um, yeah, I imagine What was it jehovah's witness? I don't I don't know much about jehovah's witnesses, but uh, yeah I think that's Italians the italians they they don't like jehovah's witnesses. Damn I don't like people don't like chris stuckman Do you think italians watch chris stuckman's channel? Well now would I mean I think my little joke got kind of swallowed up so i'm trying to figure out how to reformat it back into a workable I don't know. I don't know if I can I think I think it was a one and done thing. Yeah, I giving it just gap. Yeah Imperial fists said I got your joke rags. There you go. Thank you very much. I and I thank you um if you think Wv is bad Can you please explain friday night tights only used adaptation arguments and i'm really sick of hearing macomics high rags and m wv V Yes, if you think wv is bad Oh so Why is wonder vision bad without using i mean rags and i can't even use adaptation arguments to complain about that show so um My issues with wonder vision as it stands right now is almost everything outside of the reality show. Well, the sitcom universe is pretty tisemy in the The sort of assessment and approach to this anomaly has been really embarrassing and slow Then there's like the different tests they've been running They seem to have like ignored a lot of basic obvious shit and instead opted to just um, wait, what happens if i die in this? Oh, i'll just continue. Um Like one of the first things they try is guys should go underground because we don't know if the fucking thing applies underground It's a really weird thing Like you could find that out Heck Yeah, you just dig a fucking hole and then you look and you put things through it and see what happens It's weird that they're just like You're the border and you take a shovel with you And you dig in the dirt and you see if it goes down and it's only um rambo that's like, oh, you know We need to make a a vehicle that is comprised of these materials to be able to breathe It's like how even you figured this out yet you wouldn't you didn't try like drones and robots Wow, what a idea that is and then you have The oh i'm gonna shoot your gun at my own clothes to prove it's careful that whole scene was weird Um, then there's the speaking to scarlet witch They don't get her to address the captured 5000 people that just sort of slips the conversation It's mentioned once and then it's not recovered and she's like stay out of my home basically I really don't like how a lot of it's handled more on the subjective side. Holy fuck is the is cat denning's voice annoying Like oh, Jesus Christ My god That's what it is Fuck you And so There's more we'll probably go over more of it when we do um once the last episode's out and we maybe do any fat, but uh Yeah, as it stands the more it goes on the less confident I am in it Unfortunately, yeah Oh, I actually got him nice nice, dude nice My favorite part of man of steel is how genocide is committed twice over because superman zod and the kryptonians are all too stupid to live agreed Yeah, they're all dumb and they don't just like have conversations with each other They don't use their words and it's one of my least favorite tropes how characters just don't use words to communicate And solve their issues easily and efficiently in ways that work out for everybody Really annoying Very annoying. Uh, fomento also has a video talking about how bad green lantern is but he's just comparing it to iron man Uh Fair enough First ever super chat. Oh, well, thank you very much Thanks for responding to my state of efat post from the subreddit It gave me a deeper appreciation for youtube content in general and helped me remember why I come around in the first place also high rags Oh I'm forgive me for not being able to remember exactly which one that was state. I'm hoping it was um Positive, I don't fucking know Uh, but yeah, no problem Maybe the one we were renting uh, the people think you're not doing any work I'm just doing it for the money. Oh, the last bigger one you did. That's the only one that would come to come to mind in recent times Um, I mean it might be this doesn't I mean from what they've just said. I doubt they would they would I don't know I I do not know but whatever they liked the response Dude work the the yellow Matrices matrices annoying to get for you as well matrixes matrixes please um The third one was annoying to get. Yeah, if that's the yellow one. Yeah. Yeah, that's the third one I'm Fucking chopping down trees to make a god those organic thingies fires What no they got organic crystals Oh I need to chop down trees and plants to make artificial ones, I guess Green Lantern was the Iron Man of the DC movies then it failed I I only watched it the one time. That's probably gonna be a funny fat movies as well The movie that Ryan Reynolds makes fun of publicly, which is pretty cool I've never seen that one Yeah, I never saw it Well, I know because it's very bad. I saw it once Sup dick splashes consider this my obligatory super chat for the stream Looking forward to it as always have a good evening gents and hi raggo boy Hi there um Working on a dceu critique. So this is perfect timing man of steel and bvs are garbage that crippled the franchise Can it really be considered crippling the franchise when? That's all that there was Well, I got it off to a really bad start and so maybe they mean the DC franchise in general Yeah I mean even then So I guess your options for following them Do I try to pay close attention to those and if I do it'll probably be bad or just do my own thing And then I'm also a hack so that'll probably be bad too Kind of like Patty Jenkins did and then derived at Joss Whedon 4 which is weird Yeah, that's a weird one for sure Champed up, but the losers have to do the movie bob challenge. Champed up hard mode. No Metal almost died. I set a dangerous precedent. I'm sorry. Yeah Well Reporting your stream By the way, you're cutting out for me today rags like Voice gets drained. It's whenever someone else talks. It's the thing. It's doing the thing I don't know why it happens. I've I'm trying to adjust settings and see why the fuck that is But it seems that whenever someone else is talking and I'm talking Discord prioritizes everyone else instead of me And I haven't why yeah, I just know this is that it's happened for me to for me today that I can Can't hear you sometimes I will Try to So Adjust some settings I don't know. Uh, see if there's anything else I could do. No I don't know. Yeah, I've just been I don't know what other settings I could kind of adjust to check and see if that's the case but I mean if anyone knows about this Help Like if you fat movies and stuff If I'm talking and someone else talks then basically everything that I say just disappears It could be the punchline of a joke or it could be an observation Or it could be a question that's being asked. It could be anything And it literally just like cuts me out So if anyone knows How to fix that and discord send me a message because I really would like to know why that is It's very annoying and you lose content because of it Yeah Oh man, that's kind of messed up. Oh Oh shit, I ran out of on I have to fly all the way back to the end of the other sis. Oh, fuck me This sucks. You're right now Yeah, I have like one moon that has Titanite stuff and it's like super far away Oh wait, oh, and this is the one that gives me interstellar logistics. Oh, fucking hell Oh, wow Shay, no, he just refused to share why it happens. I don't think he knows I think he's just desperately trying to give himself the like like the aura of importance Who of the many hundreds of people that we covered you talking about Oh, no, we can chase We said no Who knows why that discord is doing the thing Because we brought it up with when he was here too and he said he knows why it's happening But he won't explain why or how. Oh, I doubt he does Yeah, I don't think I think that he knows Because he wants to feel important Oh, that's cute Strikes is the part of the survey. Is that true? It says regions in Europe Springy's in Australia Capital O opinions is American So, yeah So it's a try disabling quality of service pack priority Let me see User settings voice and video Uh Mine is disabled So I'll turn it on And we'll see if that fixes things Because I don't know I hope so. We will see. Yeah We're actually checking windows old sound settings and communication tabs So I just deliberately talked over you and I don't think could cut you off for me, please Both of you speak at the same time go All right, uh Yeah, well, um, I'll be able to tell in casual discussion probably easier than that I don't know So, uh, we got high rags high moodle high frog daddy g high other person whose name I'm not sure of high e fappers of Cambodia. Hello people with the letter q in their name. Hello, davie jones Yes, I do fear death and last but and then it cuts off. Good talk Oh, hello, I'm sure I count in one of those But why I'm getting bullied Does filamento try to act hip like the youngsters? I don't know what he's trying to do It's hard to understand. I don't know It's a confusing Because obviously it's it's not the simplest thing to write a script when English isn't your native language Which I I'm careful to say that because it might be for him and I'm being really mean but uh, I'd assume not And so a lot of the things that he says sounds really weird So I I think he's better to assume he's making mistakes rather than he's trying to sound Hip, you know Someone said that in that when we were all talking at once that I have the highest priority Could it be rags because you're at like the very far right? You're like the last one alphabetically Charlie, I would do it. That sounds like I don't know. It's all good. I go Never underestimate the stupidity of develop software. Yes So I guess it could be alphabetical priorities, which is good for me, I guess And Aaron A. Aronson. He's probably having a good time But maybe he doesn't have many friends, which would be unfortunate Feels bad, man Um, let's just in metal has officially announced on twitter that he killed the last mosquito all traces of mosquito life forms are officially extinct Yeah, I can thank me later. Uh, go follow me on twitch.tv I wish that's the guy that killed the last mosquito. Yeah, I wonder what games he plays. I'm gonna watch him play God of Boy What a good superhero What a legend Oh, I uh, I guess because on my mind I was playing a game the other day It was on origin And I had a buddy on my team and his name was rags rages That's the guy. He's why I can't name my profile in origin rags. I I met him. I finally met him Send him a friend request because I'm gonna try and see if he'd be willing to change his name so I can have it I will pay you good money and if you refuse to I will announce that you had your chance and then genocide your people Why the coinkied ink Is very weird looking at his name in game That's not me. Who are you imposter? Um, how do you criticize Anna's boyfriend's movie? True Henry Henry and her clearly You know in a relationship, but I don't blame him for the movie. I think he's he's just he's just great, you know It's unfortunate if anything because You know, he could probably make a really really good Superman if he had someone who cared to write It she and jay one are gonna have to fight over them. Oh, yeah Yeah, that's true What if you inverted rags? You have to invert my settings Wait, what did I fly you for all right tight night more if you had to erase Buffy or Lord of the Rings, which would you pick? Oh So one means more to me, but I know the other one means a lot to the world So I don't know about that because I really do love all the rings and I would be depriving a lot of people of Some of their favorite content of all time. Oh Wow, it goes on to say if you erase Buffy, it'll be remade by the batwoman creators If you erase Lord of the Rings, it'll be remade by ryan johnson Why is so cruel I would rather watch uh batwoman creators do Buffy than ryan johnson do Lord of the Rings Hilarious Yeah Yeah, I I'm gonna have to vote to be less spiteful than the ryan johnson lord of the rings Yeah, he'll just like make everyone's shit point for roto to just give up like From the gag girls like no, but do I even want to save middle earth sam? Of course you do mr. Role is shit Middle earth shit hall Check out solid man on amazon the second in the star fight series can robot father teach boy how to do good before robot fiend stops him solid man solid man hilarious Hope it's good. I guess All right, organic flumes Blessed be dawn I kept seeing this man of steel video every time I opened youtube and wondered if it would be on your radars Lice snap and dice lads Yeah, it's a surprise to us. Yeah, he timed it perfectly We just you know set up to be like this time for a man of steel ifap and he was like hey man of steel video It's perfect. It's like oh If you say so Salutations lord long bone of muppetrington abbey and hello wagges Oh, hi my own dog. Oh is turning 10 this weekend She's named sunny after the Beatles song and earns the name Can I get a happy birthday and some squishes for a very good girl? Oh happy sunny. Absolutely. Yeah, sure It's not easy. I'll wait you to do this. It's too good. Yeah, it's happy birthday, sonny This was um on the on the uh the gaming one we did last night, right? Oh, you reckon. Oh, yeah, and that that sounds familiar. You're correct Why are we still talking about man of steel tonal just dropped an hour 20 minute critique of cyberpunk 2077. Good day rags I saw that. Good day I'm sure he titted a new long hole That's what they say. I'm watched it completely yet though Mostly because I haven't played cyberpunk. So I actually have no idea what's happening. I'm not a true cyberpunk fan I am not you're correct I'll admit it. I'll take right there boys Stop. No, no, I'll say it again Go goldine legendary pokéman pluricum horns Wow, what a way to go um Zach's night of movies are just as terrible as jj abrams. Why does he constantly get a pass from fans? You got me The writing is about as horrible. I just but yeah, uh, what do you mean by blunt when criticizing things? um I guess it just too obvious and unclever generally is probably how we use it like if a villain just like if a bunch of people are on a beach talking to each other and They all just spill out all of their motivations to one another just Right there just blatantly boom. There it is and there's nothing clever or interesting about it. It's just boom This is everything you need to know about me as a character That's very blunt killed myself twice now um I'm assuming they're referring to when Delivering criticism bluntly is just like yeah, you just don't you don't dress it up at all. You just oh, yeah In that case. Yeah, it's it's very just there it is yep Which when you're delivering criticism is often very useful. Yes. There's no because you don't want to Yeah, you don't want to be confusing and you don't want to use metaphors and parables. You just want to This is what I don't want to say everything is inverted. Yeah Like I feel like the the symbolism in Batman versus Superman with the upside down painting. I feel like that's blunt It's just like, oh, yeah, I get what you're trying to do. Yep. I get it Overt if you will Yeah Not especially clever. No No No No um This just says a video essay Yes, nice Indeed On you guys gonna cover slash watch the snider cut. Oh, yes No, the way this is going it's gonna line up pretty perfectly too like everything seems to be going well This will be a very long snider arc Or at least in comparison to our other ox. It's also one of the future um Do a chat says like what happened to the prequel arcs like we will return to it one day We didn't quite get to revenge of the sith, but one day. Yeah. Yeah, we'll get to it. Don't worry We're always ready to go back and talk about star wars. God forbid. Yeah, you still are wise star wars That's full of soldiers And what did they all do when the war ended? They went crazy. They went crazy and killed Went planet by planet destroying populace. It's like, oh, okay. I asked what soldiers do That's a shame Well, this is by me spirited away is overrated prove me wrong No, I liked it. That's all I remember I have not seen it same Spirited away was was neat from memory, but perhaps it is flimpy chat you decide Oh my god, I remember liking it, but that's all I remember Um, I'm sorry to hear you're on the spectrum molla. I didn't know that being a dumbo puts you in that Ha ha ha being a dumbo Well, you know what? We love them anyway. I'm with autism and all That's the um The term is dumbo capable of things. It was just because he has to just because he has to wear a helmet when he walks downstairs Doesn't mean he can't tell you itlj. Shit. It's all good. Yep Fuck me ganon stop Stop it Stop it ganondorf. Stop enough Enough. Oh, shit. You actually just straight up killed me. I'm not even gonna think I'm gonna reset. Fuck you suffering Uh, but yeah, that was to do with jay's tweet. It was like a paragraph that opens with like Um, I'm convinced that if you're an online personality, you have to be like a fucked up person And the references were that um Already well, the references for me and rags rags is a fury and I'm autistic Oh Well, I might be autistic, but at least I'm not a fury I think well, the funny part about my wood is like I'm pretty sure he's all the spectrum I wonder what that makes metal and fringy and me. Oh, I never get mentioned. I'll never figure that I'll never get the answers It's not I think in that in that paragraph it was something like the only two normal ones are er and drinker Critical drinker. Yeah, they're normal. The nazi and the alcoholic. Ah, yeah, the two normal ones Um, anyways, you should play ddlc Oh one day, perhaps Maybe one day. Who knows perhaps Uh, I just want to say Love the work you guys do been watching since 36 and you've all helped me to think more critically about media. Hi rags Hi It's um, yeah, it's good news Blank critical is good Yes, we should always all critical of everything ever including doughnuts Dough, how did we aboos become a thing also? Hi rags Hi Um, I don't know. I guess I might I guess how much a loser virgins needed to They just gravitate towards anime for some reason Because it's I don't know because it's so shit. I don't know Maybe maybe the Maybe the the the juvenile appeal of so much of it just They just love it for some reason. It's it's tryhardy cringy attempts at coolness Inspire they just click within a certain kind of Brain, I don't know. I I'm just pure conjecture at this point Those are just some random just spitball in here Just spitball in here So who knows That curious question. No Oh, I can't Get rags gravitate to barbie. So One of the things you understand is that my knowledge of barbie Is because I was around it constantly So you just you absorb it like I know The lion king too, cymbus pride. I know a lot about that movie Because I was around it playing So much I know a lot about I know the jj the jet plane theme song by heart Right because you hear it enough fucking time. Let's hear it and it gets burned in your memory I don't have to prove anything to you Point is when you're like when I would like when you're the when you're the oldest of four You just it's like being a parent in a way when you're constantly around younger siblings All of the stuff they watch you can't escape from oftentimes. It's just always happening around you So that's why I know a lot of the barbie movies It's not that I went out of my way to be like fuck. Yeah, we're watching barbie Fire barbie and the nutcracker boys Heritopia That was ages ago. I totally lost Rack has been brainwashed by jj the jet plane Jj the jet plane's creepy When they came up with that show because like the they can't do anything They're just planes with faces on them. It's kind of like, um, thomas the tank engine Yeah, they're just trains With faces on them. They don't have arms or legs to manipulate the environment anything like like in jj the jet plane Go on youtube and watch the clips of it Whenever they need to do anything like there's an episode where they go camping, right? and I know it's fucking nuts And they're one of the one of the planes, uh, it's I it's not oscar It's it's what it's like the young plane with the big fucked up nose He's afraid of the darkened stuff, but he can't like do anything You can't like like they they have a fire in front of them when the scene is started But you don't see him making the fire because they don't have arms They can't make the fire. So it's just like The fire is just there when it needs to be whenever they need to do anything it either cuts away Or they leave the scene and it's implied that they do it off-screen somehow It's I don't know why they make characters who just can't do things Rant over I guess Ascension steam engine yeah engine like you have no arms. You have no legs. You can only move along these predefined tracks sounds like more of a story arc than uh, than Man of steel the story about thomas the tank engine coming to grips with his reality Sprouting some legs, I don't think I'd be able to handle it I really hope Thomas makes it out. Who's god. Who is that little fucker? I think his name is Oh, oh, oh one thing the person who voiced jj the titular JJ of JJ the motherfucking jet plane debbie dairyberry. She voices jimmy neutron Oh Now somebody just mentioned something that I briefly read that might be so Warner Brothers Passed into the our nemesis system from shadow of war They what the middle of them they patented it the system they they own the the system itself Okay, I don't know emergent enemies with personalities that you have to fight that is quite concerning to me Like patenting it could you imagine if Nintendo patented platforming or something? Yeah, because generally you you I thought you weren't allowed to Game mechanics. Well, yeah, surely you could make something similar, but I'll give it's not the same and therefore you're okay or whatever Maybe let me let me see Yeah, because maybe it maybe it isn't as bad as um as it as it sounds So this is the multiple attempts to patent it but the u.s patent office issued a Released an issue notice stating that the patent would go into effect on the 23rd They have the option to patent through 2035 for both. They keep up with the fees The patent followed the nemesis as nemesis characters nemesis for its social vendettas and followers in computer games codifies the nemesis system and the sum of its parts as property of Warner Brothers um So the short version is that the patent covers a system featuring procedurally generated mpcs That exist in a hierarchy and interact with and will remember the actions of players Have their appearance behavior altered by players and whose place in that hierarchy can change and affect the position of other high npcs Uh, oh boy, that actually sounds quite vague Hmm So I guess you can't have the nemesis system in your games anymore Their axe goes against stirring up the hornet's nest being extremely hyperbolic. No jj is weird I don't know that's what you're referring to but jj and thomas are fucking weird. They're just they're they're vehicles with faces At least with um, like it at least with um, what bob the builder, right and handy manny Like I feel like the tools that he uses in his construction equipment are more like They can they're they're more they can do things like the whole point of a like a like a backhoe or uh, no or one of like A steamroller So the steamer I remember the steamroller being some retarded one But at least I could sort of do things they could impact their environment around them in some way Like they could construct and build like one of them could dig holes therefore implying that it can place the dirt in other places But and the tools can do things as well Like even if they're being used to do other things or some kind of I don't know It just seems different when it's when it's like a plane You know or a train I'd rather be a plane than a train, of course At least I'd have the freedom to fly around places and see the world with the train It's like well if the track ain't there then I ain't going there So I have a list of jj the jet plane characters. Was it snuffy? It was snuffy. Yes. It is snuffy But the snuffy was snuffy was fucking. Yeah, he had the propeller nose. He looked fucked up The others had like human faces. He was like a dog Wow No, he was it was just odd that all of the other planes like big jake and oscar and jj and tracy and all that shit Because I know their fucking names They're all people. They're clearly human faces except for snuffy. Oh, I wait you're forgetting, right? But Snuffy has this fucked up like weird Pinky muzzle sort of thing. It's really strange what his face is And I don't know why that well, I don't know what the creative decision was and like Making that his face. I I don't know Snuffy was fucked up like he was an animal like he looked like a rat because he had buck teeth. He looked like a rat Yeah, let me let me put let me get a picture of him and I'll post it for you because I remember I'm looking like oh my god I'm so right He looks like a rat All right, you're just being hyperbolic. No, I'm not let me here's a picture of him. Here's a picture of him He looks like he looks like a fucking rat. Oh my god It's disgusting. I'm just saying name the lie There is a rat element there. I agree No, I just love that chat was like rags being hyperbolic again Okay, right okay someone said carl says rags knows a lot about the lore of a show he claims to hate Welcome to efab. What we know a lot about the things we hate Have you heard of star wars? That's what we advocate for like you should know what you're fucking talking about I hate Mandalorian. I hate the boys. I hate all sorts of things that I know about them Nice I hate JJ the jet plane You might even say the hatred comes from knowing about it How can you hate it if you don't know about it? Well, that's called prejudice um So if you guys remember the incredible quote from uh spy kids two from Steve Busami You think god stays in heaven because he's too afraid of what he created here to Is that from spy kids? Is that where that quote originates? Oh my goodness gracious Hence why we need to uh, we need to watch the spy kids movies, you know Because a lot of people are like all the childish like no they have deep thought They talk about things When spy kids 3d came out I was so impressed By that I don't know why I really like about what now I don't know. It just was like wow look at this He's like reaching out of the screen and grabbing things. How cool is that? I remember Frodo being player one or whatever I can't remember the one is it something like that. He just gets killed straight away funny So anyway Zod incited the erection the steel erection. Oh, yeah Oh my goodness gracious man of steel erection Wait, he stole the erection. He needs some kryptonian Not viagra, whatever that he needs that he needs inverted viagra Maybe those kids should have drowned with great power comes great sman slot Yeah Make sense. Good lesson to learn. Amal on rags. Hello Writing question for you. When is it a good time to have an exposition scene? Because most people have a more negative view of it It's not a complicated one, isn't it? So I guess generally and I use this very loosely Get it all out of the way at the beginning Um, yeah for the most part I think that uh, basically just have exposition whenever it is absolutely necessary that people understand what's happening The story continues out well trying to achieve more than just the exposition at the time and as long as it's before the event that you needed it to understand Yeah, that's the most important thing try to like couch it in and something else So I forget who it was but someone did a video talking The opening scene of the social network And how it sort of couches a ton of exposition in a scene with a lot of conflict between two characters And because you're focused on the conflict You're not as focused on the fact that they're dumping a lot of exposition Like it feels natural because the characters are talking the way they would naturally But you're not it's not only accomplishing exposition. It's also accomplishing Character conflict, you know what I mean? So like see if you can exposition at the same time then it's like infotainment That's two attainment not enough info Yeah You agree with me you agree with me when you when you're It's like it like it if like you're trying to teach like a Like like a kid song about like nuclear fission, right? Right, you have all these characters and add and they're dressed up in atomic parts And I am the water molecule and I am the neutron and I'm the fucked up guy at Chernobyl And they they go out and they they dance around and they have the songs and they sing and there's a lot of CGI And they're singing about stuff But like kids are dumb and they're going to focus on the dancing and the singing and the special effects And they're not going to be thinking about oh, yeah, of course when you knock the electrons off of it So that's how it creates the best of them They're not going to get all the science stuff. They're going to walk away thinking ha ha that sure was a funny proton The Sometimes you can do it right. That's why we all know that Um, I don't know. Um, what's something we all know that the powerhouse of the cell Yeah, yeah That the one thing is the powerhouse mitochondria. That's the one mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell Boom There you go. So so back to the initial question. So all right something that definitely No, you yeah So one thing that definitely comes up for a lot of people with exposition scenes They don't have problem with exposition in itself They have a problem, especially when the exposition Is not spoken like it's not what the characters would naturally be saying to each other. So it's like The characters would already know this so they need to plane it that it's just for the audience to say people don't like that Or like in prometheus where they're only told about their mission once they're at the planet It's like they should know this beforehand. This does make a lot of sense. Yeah Or like in the last episode of wandavision There's some very very important obvious information that we are just now learning for some reason that cannot be explained Yeah, because they want the audience to know it now is why I think like, uh, the general idea Or I think if you root it down to so what is the goal that the writer has when they're telling a story? And I think the fundamental thing is you want to convince somebody that this story Is real in a certain sense You want them to be able to suspend their disbelief and And believe that this is something that either did happen or could actually happen somewhere Um and the best way to do that is to avoid as much as possible Anything that reminds somebody that what they're watching has been constructed by somebody And the best way to do that is to do an exposition that is very overt That communicates information that yeah as as capital said like that they either should know already Or if they didn't know it wouldn't be like I think I think the clearest example is Imagine that there was a conversation like hey remember september 11th 2001 No, what was september 11th 2001? So september 11th 2001 was when two Boeing, you know 737 planes Oh for reference a plane isn't um isn't is a vehicle that can fly in the sky um Oh, and also it was in new york city established in whatever year it was established in the country known as the united states of america Situated on the north american continent on earth, you know like Yeah, all right. So guys earth is like a planet and we gotta go we gotta go wave And again, it's the whole idea that if the characters existed in this universe things that are just known or things that Like major events would never be discussed in the context of like as if nobody knows what they are That's that's one example of many of things that people wouldn't explain Yeah, avoid having characters tell other characters things that they obviously know like they're an idiot that they obviously should know Yes, avoid that um and what I like my first suggestion was like if you're gonna Go one way or the other in a weird sort of sense if you're gonna like at the beginning, right People sit down. They put the movie on they've clicked it. They're ready I think and a lot of people when the movie first starts they're still and I'm watching the movie mode Take advantage of that And get the meta stuff out of the way have the title crawl at the beginning Don't have the title crawl in like the middle of the film I don't think I even need that personally that that kind of feels you don't need it No, you don't need it, but they're just asking how to use it Oh, oh, yeah They're asking about how to use exposition is like a lot of the times that that star wars It's very iconic now and it's a very useful tool. It is it's a way to establish information about a universe That's unquestionably true because it's out of universe Commentary on the universe in a way. It can't be an unreliable narrator It's just it's it's it's meta, right? It's just information about the world that you need to know going in you can establish like Star Wars does this with the title crawl orchestral theme plays It takes place in space and then the words fade and then Planet or ships and you're right there, you know a very smooth transition into the universe from the quote-unquote out of universe text crawl That's one way to do it You're right on the advocate against title crawls and and yeah, it's from the beginning I think that they're an inelegant way of doing something that you can achieve through just good writing Yeah, it's very on the nose. It's not a there's nothing subtle about it So if you're gonna go that route, maybe it's best to just own it So another thing to think about is like is is your story the kind of story where? Makes sense for characters to explain things to Or is your story more like the original alien where everyone there already knows the mission They're on and wouldn't feel the need to talk about it in those terms to each other In which way are we going to the base on ma's again? You know how to do this carl. Shut the fuck up Yeah, so you don't want to do that So what I another thing I would say is that exposition isn't bad in and of itself as we've already discussed but if you can craft scenarios where the audience can discover things for themselves without being told explicitly you should do that because People will be more invested when they are piecing things together themselves versus when you're explaining everything They need to know to them and they don't need to have any actual discovery for themselves It's not necessary like you can have scenes where characters explain things You know, but if the audience is invested and they're they're piecing things together Like in the original alien, they're on a mining mission to another planet. They're on their way back You know, there's certain dynamics between the different characters in terms of who's in charge and who isn't that stuff has never said Incredibly explicitly you just kind of piece it together from the behaviors So as much as possible try to make it so the audience can piece it together without you saying it to them directly This is why POV characters are very common Yeah They are very very common. I kind of wish I kind of sometimes wish that were less of them Like if if harry potter had spent his whole life in the wizarding world jk would be fucked Well, I know but she could she could probably do it. It would just take more. I don't know I I feel like um, I because I you always hear people say this like we need a character Who is the grounding element and it's like there probably is a truth to that in a pragmatic sense But I do kind of wish that there were more stories that didn't Uh have pov characters is the you know, like a main character who's totally unaware of any of these things Yeah, I assumed when he said you could have an alien just acting in rational reasonable ways. Yeah, of course Uh, when he said that she'd be fucked. I assumed he was referring to inabilities as a writer in the first place. I don't know Oh, I mean the story I think the story would have to I think it would be radically different with how they explain things Probably because if everybody if you assume that everybody we could still we don't need harry potter to watch lessons unfold, right Um, does Luke count as a pov? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Like luke is a very clear example of a pov character Um, because he lives on a desert planet. He's not super exposed He's aware of things going on in the world But he's not a participant in them until you know, he gets involved like luke is a very clear example of a pov character Yeah, um Another example explains hyperdrive to luke sky. Yeah, exactly and like obi-wan explains Jedi and all that and like laia kind of explains the conflict and you can see they're not like in mass effect Like shepherd is there's a reason why he's a human Because I think that they believe that it would be easier for you to um get into the world and understand everything that's happening If you play as a human rather than like a torian and then get dropped immediately into that culture The humans are the new race from that Yeah, exactly But the question is what do you lose from that? You could probably do something really cool with a story that's from a torian pov that drops you straight into it Yeah, that's why I kind of wish that it was done less because I think you can miss out In like speculative fiction if you had like the main character as an orc Or the main character is like an elf or something or the main character is an alien Yeah, unfortunately an enemy If you have humans This happens a lot in sci-fi and fantasy But the protagonist or the main group or the most popular race or whatever they're humans and a lot of the times It's just basic bitch humanity um And there's no super interesting alien culture that you're in There's no we like what are the what are the orc people like what is living with them? What is the dragon people doing? What is the You know elf people, you know all these other interesting. No, you're just like visiting them Yeah, as you're totally normie Normie fantasy human people Then you're like, oh, okay. Well, that's Fun Yeah, um, not a huge I just wish that there were more stories that were willing to do it with um Different types of characters. I suppose oh and also on this I guess the rules would be different depending on whether you're writing a book because when you're writing a book You might be able to get away with things through narration that you can't get away within a film But at the same time, there's things that you can do in a film that um Won't call attention to themselves quite as much as they wouldn't a book Yeah, that's true So I would I would say if like the shortest possible rule of thumb for exposition scenes Is that see if you can accomplish more than just exposition in the scene? You know, see if we can learn something about the characters See if we can have a bit of conflict between different characters You know, see if you can accomplish more than one thing because if there's more than one thing happening then it's not just an exposition A huge portion of what you know is a human is just by observing it happen around you Without anyone explaining it to you And you just pick it up. So You know take advantage of that That's how you learned a lot of things Yes, you Jeffrey you Fucking jackal jaffrey out there is like whoa You Jeffrey pop out now. I'm getting quite sleepy Yo, no stop it That's disgusting But also sensual Very nice Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm gonna go sleep in the mouth. So you guys have the fun in the flumes and the stuff Okie-dokie, I'll catch you all in laders. Congrats on being 30. Yeah, thanks for reminding me Have any of you seen media zealots video on emorton joe from madmax was too stupid to win My brother and I were losing our minds might be good coverage Immortan joe was too stupid to win Um, so I guess in the um in the show he makes so many sti- for everyone That's he's the antagonist from madmax fury road. Yeah. Um, yeah I've only seen it the one time. I'd have to watch it again. I mean I used to really like it then I watched yas video on it. I was like, oh the writing's not very good Um, so maybe an argument could be made that he's too stupid to win. I'd have to rewatch it Sure, you know, yeah, it's definitely a fun spectacle movie. I don't know if it Oh, yeah, I I wouldn't be surprised at all if it doesn't hold up But I can appreciate it and it's fun to watch but yeah, you know So this is Wonder Woman 84 release this stucco man cut It's stuck to do a cut of something. Oh no Uh, gotta go to work. I'll be enjoying you masters later. Oh Oh my goodness Um, never got the anger toward jonathan saying maybe to clock I always took it as a conflicted thing doesn't want clock to be taken away But knows he was right to save the bus so instead of saying drown the fuck as he said, I don't know Yeah, I think that's bad. Yeah, that's horrific. That's bad. It's an obvious choice. The conflict Exists, but it's not really much of a conflict rather than a you have to accept that these are the consequences And we need to do something about that and then if this clock was like you mean I shouldn't save people He should be like no no no no no. Yes, you should definitely save people. Jesus. No But maybe there's a way of going about it that doesn't reveal your identity He doesn't say that he says so I should have let them drown. He goes. I don't know. Maybe maybe no. No, maybe. No, maybe I could totally see why many people had an issue with that fucking life. Yeah, it's like maybe you shouldn't have It's like maybe you're a fucking prick You know, maybe the reason that that uh, Clark hates humanity so much is because he was raised by incredibly missing Big parents. Yep. So we talk about in Batman v Superman. Martha says you don't owe this world a thing Exactly Exactly. I don't think his parents like humanity very much. Just strange because they are humans, but Yeah, what do I know In the original Superman, which we should rewatch now that we've seen The man of steel in Batman vs Superman Um, the the kens are good people. They're they're good parents to Clark So that explains a lot of why he is a very good person as an adult because his parents were very good Them children and sponges Yeah, they soaked up all that that juicy goodness from The clerks and the kens. Yeah, I I would really like to watch a good super Superman movie now That sounds delightful and refreshing So I watch more playing on this map. I'm sure that there was a time when I thought that water was so realistic looking Uh, it ain't now What's the best Superman movie? You're you're a Superman fan, right? First one. Oh, I'm not I'm not a big fan of Superman personally. My favorites the 1984. I find kind of boring Oh, I thought you okay. You're just oh, yeah in the e-fap I was trying to trying to you know root for him a little bit But generally I find Superman way less interesting than say Batman like Oh, okay. So the first Superman movie the yeah, I I said 84. I'm at 78. Yeah, superman the 1978 Superman the movie I've never seen that one. I'll check it out Um His drive is to destroy the lives of truck drivers seems to be yeah Will you buy m e l e mass effect legendary edition? Oh, um, um, I probably not I I would be interested to get a uh A whole thing of it in one. That's well, I guess I'll need to check that it's Good In the same way there's someone's like should I play resident evil full remastered? It's the first, you know resident evil be like They're like censoring shit in it and I'm like fuck off Or are they censoring? Yeah, they're censoring a lot of the the Miranda's butt shots Oh, man when the whole like point of her character is that she's like Basically a creation of her father's to be extremely attractive Uh in beautiful like a perfect, you know a perfect daughter And and Zelda a peach okay peach just killed herself Let me see if I can find it it was because because they fuck all about actually making an ending that's even approaching good um Let me see if I can find it scroll up um I have to Let's see here. They they fixed shepherd man spreading. Oh good And they are going to make changes to where we will see Miranda's butt less Which are part of her character traits and her backstory and She's not a bad character either but um Yeah, uh male shepherds man spreading and we got to change that But the ending is going to be the same so Hey, here's here's the newest controversy. All right What What's controversy take a look Oh Is there too many white women winning awards? Well, they're all women nominated Yeah, but are there any dudes? No rags. That doesn't matter. It's They're all it doesn't matter that they're women women. Oh really Might have might be angle even might now Here's it is might the angle even be more so that like they're all blonde as well Well, not all of them, but almost a large amount of them are Holy shit. I didn't even notice that first. Yeah, I just noticed they were all women Well, I think the whole idea is that these are the women who've been nominated for something But this is the golden globes and I thought we all agreed that they weren't particularly important Yes, but we have to make sure that we understand how racist they are. Yeah, I can laugh at them though Yeah I hope that the best actress wins. I hope that the best actress wins. Yeah So that that rickage your baseline race like, you know, the golden globes like the askers except without all that prestige Well, yeah, I mean, I'm pretty sure the synths has made lots of jokes about the golden glows being worth fuck all Or um, oh, I think they did one for the Grammys like oh, this is a Grammy And then tosses it at Homer's head. Oh the Grammys fucking suck Um, Grammys might be worse than the Oscars actually, but I don't know. Maybe that's just me Yeah, um Also empathy greater than sympathy All right, if you say so You massive spent hours on trash like amnesia and cyberpunk 2077 They still refuse to play out of wilds for shame does a masterpiece and y'all are missing out Hey, what are these days? I'm yeah, I'm not getting into any new games right now But maybe afterwards once I get this project cleared and I can like get into a new game I might I'm currently on episode 52 And they got a frog and and like like a blowing smoke thing Oh I will catch up and listen live one day. I don't want to listen live without being up to date on the lore don't bless you Hi rags Oh, hello. Well, yeah the journey ahead of you. Good luck The s stands for soap. That's why he got in the bathtub in bvs. It all fits together Batman versus soap and see it all now Is he a very dirty boy Now Fred's trying to make him take a bath Get in the bathtub. You can't make me Bat tub He brought the soap to us that soap There's even a 1 chance Run a bath. We have to treat it The hesitations, uh, that's good stuff Give the child back his chromosome. Oh, I don't even sure that's what I was saying Did they steal clocks chromosomes in the movie? It's horrible Yeah, how'd you do that? We've saved the krypton However, the superman person is now at ism There were some weird lines in man of steel about bloodlines Like which bloodlines are you preserving? I'm like that sounds kind of incestuous, but I'm no expert Look, there's pure ones and then there's tizmy ones I guess molotel minds are just full of syphilis molotel metal to ask molotel watch circulars in new york free fat movies I don't know. I've been working constantly the past few days That's the ongoing meme apparently maybe one day Hercules versus new york, what the fuck is that? Well, yeah, that was uh Hurley Arnold Schwarzenegger's first movie. I think in america Hercules versus new york. New york is this giant monster. He has to battle. It's pretty cool. Look at that poster of these the metaphor Bye, bye. How was it? God, this is so basic beach sheet I agree that face at 50 minutes clark conned. Gosh his day was clark conned Uh How much money would I have to give you to get mark hamill on the 200th episode of efap? I feel like we could get a lot of people tagging him on twitter I do not think that is even close to a possibility. I'm afraid We need if it was though Um Ma man ma and pa kent were done dirty in this movie Yeah Indeed they were see how anybody Don't want they were thinking with those Really really awkwardly done Hey rags if you could choose for bob to have no mouth but the urge to feed or have him have no ass and eventually explode Which would you choose? I feel like Having no ass and exploding is a bit more like poetic Like where his his his horrific gluttony leads to his own destruction And you can no longer spew his tisms onto the world Through his ass until he explodes that goes everywhere. Yeah, but in it But here's the thing you're about what about his shit getting everywhere in the world Well, no, he's gonna be at home in his basement The basement will be lost. Yes. Yeah, it's just gonna fuck up that room We can just lock off the room like the elephants foot we locked off, you know Yeah, and um I'm sure no one goes there anyway. So it's not like it might take ages for anyone to know it might It might just sort itself out where he explodes. There's poo and stuff everywhere. It biodegrades Into the environment once again and no one even notices they go down there And it's just like a lush jungle where a bob once was I mean, I would assume it would be pretty radioactive at first Don't want the half-life on his sort of insides would be even no grave. Yo active I don't even know how to deal with that Avoid it Uh, what would y'all name an opposite of a mary slew sash gary stew a character that struggles with everything is shunned by other characters And is a perpetual underdog early naruto is an example I'd call them Um The first thing I think of is louis from the show louis I don't know I mean There's so many degrees of this kind of thing that just characters at that point to us. This is not even Yeah, I don't know if there's a character. It's probably yeah, I don't know if there is a name for that I mean tropes calls it an ante sue ante sue And they say it's just as bad What's the bad side of someone being an underdog all the time? I don't know Well, I mean, maybe it's the degree like maybe they just suck at everything. They're just worthless Like they have absolutely nothing that they could do right in any way ever. They're just incompetent to a Cartoonish degree Or like maybe a really pathetic character never like rose or stops being pathetic, you know Who's like he was like that? Have you ever seen the movie? Uh Everything what? The movie it's called a serious man by the cohen brothers No, I have not It's all right Except for the fact that the main character never grows a backbone and like stands up for himself and grows as a person So he's just kind of pathetic and it's really disappointing because he kind of wanted him to Grow and become better and more confident, but he never does So It's a little disappointing not their best film. It's got some good moment Sounds like a serious film It's a very serious super serious What a serious man Get raise a fist on you can reach him on his rageaholic tumblr blog. Okay enough Keep getting told all the different ways like a contact if he can contact us when he wants on like literally He can message me on twitter in any way shape or form if he's interested. All right, because yeah I've sent him all of the usual things if you know, it's the ball is in his court Yeah, how exciting Uh that truck driver had a family to feed Um who rude he ruined his career captain of steel Captain of steel Captain of steel Um, yeah, you could easily the thing is we wouldn't want to make a dom like story out of that guy because he was an asshole, but The punishment is not what I called the uh Uh captain steel I would captain of steel Yeah Oh, that's who I'd call the leader of the thieves guild I'm freaking a captain of steel Because they take shit Yep, he's in charge Uh this movie sets the ball off of being a superhero so low it's nestled between dinosaur ribs and also high rags Hi there Oh, I think I read that out a bit wonky, but the the point was was understood Uh couldn't say this in the last couple of e-faps due to lack of money in regards to me critiquing fringy on blood-borne streams I'm not sure how you misread my super chat rags, but what I was trying What I'm saying to fringy is that if he's calling Wonder Woman's powers inconsistent, you better do the same for Superman That's not what aboutism because First off I'm not defending Wonder Woman's powers at this point and I think that says kindly the reason I'm even bringing this up is because what you said Norman in Wonder Woman e-fat movies after you finished reacting to the first You actually compare her to Superman and say his powers are more consistent Which frankly is quite nonsense considering everything he's ever been in Wait to Superman. All right. Okay. So there is a lot I'm trying to see if I can get to the X I'm not sure how long it goes. Yeah, it's the reason for me even bringing up the silver age era of comics Which some reason rags mumbled that last bit where they pull so many powers out of their asses for him dot dot dot Um When you when you read this I'm not criticizing you out of spite. Okay. I think that's all of it Okay, I'm sorry. I'm just trying to so like I'm sure that Superman is very inconsistent in the comics as well Because a lot of heroes are wildly inconsistent in the comics when it comes to their powers Like I don't doubt that for a minute. I don't remember saying that Superman was More consistent, but if that was something I said there's I could definitely be wrong I just know that like Wonder Woman's big thing has been that she's been massively inconsistent Throughout her entire run But yeah, Superman probably is uh inconsistent as well Hope that addresses your question That's the thing I wouldn't be surprised if that's applicable to most right because we deal with so many If it's applicable to the vast majority of superheroes who aren't just like regular people like Batman Um, and even then he might be but yeah when we're talking about like of course Superman's inconsistent because like he's bulletproof But his suit can be punctured by doomsday's thing I guess Because when he gets weakened by kryptonite and then there's yellow kryptonite or fucking gold kryptonite or whatever it's called And red kryptonite and all this other stuff like yeah, probably is super inconsistent um, I don't doubt that at all Though, you know, maybe when it comes to the films Wonder Woman is yeah I think that's that's probably the important takeaway when it comes to the films Wonder Woman is more inconsistent now because she can fly but she can't she can make things invisible She can make yeah like she is more inconsistent in the movies than Superman is now for sure Though, you know what when it comes to like in media in general I'm suspecting that it might be wonder who ends up becoming the most inconsistent when it comes to powers. I'm quite concerned About what she can and can't do who trade you a cow Uh, being a good guy what an unexpected choice Well, I mean that kind of plays into what we're talking about with like, oh, he chose to save that bad It's like, why would you have done anything else? Mola, you need to beat 10 enemies with like no health. I don't think I'm gonna do it for you. I don't think I'm gonna do it You believe in me I believe in you. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I believe in you. Okay Yeah, it's so Uh, who is the most inconsistent in the MCU in terms of powers. Um That's a strange Maybe not inconsistent in terms of what he can do, but what he chooses to do what he chooses to do. Yeah Yeah, I think Dr. Strange for sure I guess Because captain marvel is consistent in that she's unstoppable. Yeah, she's uh, well, well Is it it's inconsistent that Thanos could toss her ass away when he had zero stone when he had six number one Like I think you're asking right because I said I think one is going to become the most inconsistent Yeah, I think she will because I'm worried now about the show. Yeah Um, well, I think the problem is that in the comics her powers are insane She can like warp reality and and of course when you're doing that it's like, uh-oh. What oh hold on Wait, she can create mess now. It's like wait and she can mind control people and like create this But of course like I'm cool with my question has been there since her first iteration Well, I guess she can create a force field and now she can create a force field that they can't get through I guess is the implication there right like now that it's super red Now nobody can get in which makes me wonder why she didn't do it like that from the beginning But um, I guess my concern is how are they going to vindicate her because what's happening right now is unequivocably wrong so I wonder what the logic will be to just i see a lot of people are saying that that that director dude is the bad guy or something Um, I wonder though Yeah, but the reason also be yeah, they can both he could also be yeah, but wonder definitely is Well, unless it's not her doing this, right? Yeah, unless they know who agnes is Well, we don't know who she is yet. She wasn't one of those Yeah, the neighbor lady Agnes is an old woman name. You're right. She doesn't have a thing on the board. So maybe it's her doing or something baby The Hebrew people losing her mind. Yeah, I know that but the Hebrew people had their chance. So it's hitler Oh, are they saying like she's losing her mind? So it's okay because that's not that no I don't agree with you at all. That's what you're saying He's a little mental Worst part about man of steel the fact that henry cavill could have pulled off the best supermenpo trail this generation bravo Nolan bravo, snider Yeah, there's nothing stopping them. He's a really good actor and he looks the part completely Yeah, that's not his fault though. That's the right. No, it's not his fault. That's why they're saying Thanks, Nolan. Yeah I don't think anybody has any issue with henry like at all. It's just like no, he's a cool dude Oh, yeah, what what's the best thing he's been in? I've only really seen a mission impossible fall out Yeah, that would be the the film that made me go. Ooh Okay, me Huh? what You didn't like mission impossible fallout. No, I did I think that's right fallouts insane fallouts insanely good Oh, you said not me when I'm just confused Oh, I I don't even know it Very well Where did you train in an eye hop? Oh, that's an eye hop training bit. This is bill l kent He comes out of the eye hop like kitchen to face the evil soldier lady and he's got like two skillets He has four because he's like general grievous and spins him around. Oh my goodness. He has four arms He's working out an eye hop requires you have four arms to cook with the only way that makes sense Uh, you think you can threaten my eye hop kalbo kentkins Okay kalbo kentkins Uh Why couldn't they just terrible moz? That's the thing. I think the you could probably have a throwaway line of some sort You know, fuck that the idea that I even suggest a fix. It's like no, we need to do it all from the beginning Start from scratch tear it all down Tear it all This map this pokemon map confuses me. Why are there just a bunch of static pokemon? You said this last time I know I did but it's great. I love it. I think it's amazing too. I enjoy it too fringy. You need to get with the program I disagree with fringy because it seems like the popular thing to do. They yeah fringy How come you're always be a contrarian? You're all sheeple. All right And you're a wolf. I'm not a sheeple. I'm a flappy You're all sheeple and you're gonna I don't know you're gonna you do what the government says, all right? Oh, no That's the last thing I want to do The goberman is by it We were just trying to make our pokey float fly away Thoughts on disney's jungle cruise trying to be quote less racist by replacing people of color with apes What? What Jungle cruise disney jungle Yeah, let's see jungle cruise news Nudes disney land to reimagine jungle cruise ride following years of criticism. Now this is from cnn. So it might be true so, um The jungle cruise ride were So it looks like, um Is uh, although the ride was inspired by nature documentaries one of the sites along the river route is a scene of quote unquote natives Which depicts them as wild primitive and threatening, which is true Um in a brief release disney confirmed the ride's upcoming overhaul among the changes will be a new animated skipper character Uh quote as imagineers it is our responsibility to ensure Experiences we create in stories we share reflect the voices and perspective of the world around us said karmine smith creative development and inclusion strategies Executive at walt disney imagining in a state Remember when I said like calling yourself a creative was Okay, we find something weird to imagine Um, what's your job? I'm a creative development and inclusion strategies executive at walt disney's imagineer acronym for that Come Uh the popular splash mountain log flume ride originally features from song of the south A story set in the antebellum south who's cringe worthy depictions of black people. Why do you capitalize black? Black people have kept it mostly hit. Yo, you people don't capitalize white. You'll capitalize black though I feel racially abused here. Why why would why would the why would a race name? It's a it's not a proper noun Yeah, it's just it's a it's a it's a common noun. Yeah, it's black and white capitalized Yeah, it's it's a color for start. Yeah, like Well, you always capitalize colors just not white because they're yeah, you're Um, the band of color It would reconfigure the ride to include characters from 2009's the princess and the frog the first disney movie with a black princess Lee blacks capitalized again. That's weird. Um Let's see the the pirates of the caribbean ride which inspired the film franchise of the same name Also came under scrutiny for its animatronic scenes of the pirates selling female captives You can't do that in 2017. Yeah. Yeah, we can't we can't imply that pirates are bad They're pirates they're criminals. We we can't imply that pirates were horrible fucking awful people Right, we would never want to know they would know that You also can't imply that every encounter a you know a isolated tribe somewhere in the jungle went really really well Yeah, you can't you can't you can't imply that you know natives living in the jungle are wild and primitive That's offensive. They they fucking are jesus christ And if a bunch of amazonian tribesmen want to call our show or send an angry email then I then fine do it. I don't care a fucking boobla boobla He's upset that I called him a primitive. I love that guy. He makes great videos Yeah, boobla boobla. He's a good man. He's a good man. He wouldn't be angry. I don't fucking care apparently Disney land disney is planning a guardians Uh of the galaxy roller coaster Okay, all right We should all be evolving and doing those things those are things that should be left in the past But if you're setting it in a historical God those things have to be left in the past, but our show that we're making in the present for money. That's different Reality can be whatever I want I know the guy who said that Jesus die all of you Um, you can't say that about ugly boogly. All right If this ship if the ship was filled with unborn children did superman commit mass abortion? Hell yeah, he was really good at it too Yeah, he's very efficient. He's got reason with commies Disney communist We know that we know that communists are really good capitalists as we've just have we've noticed Wait, you're suggesting that disney have been hiding this whole time I like the idea disney is like that episode of the simpsons with russia's like I thought you guys broke up Yes, that's what we wanted you to think I like they just have a flag of mickey mouse holding a hammer and sick And I don't know maybe Walt disney rises from the graze must destroy capitalism Just a friendly reminder that people that would unironically describe themselves as woke and communists are not the people It's a it's a difference Whole difference at all the same Every last one of them's So anyway Legend of zelda the wind waker handled lost civilization mentor and villain are ghosts of the past and past versus progress better than man of steel Well, what's it? Wait, what does? Legend of zelda the wind waker, which I don't know a lot about so I don't even I don't think so chairman mouse No, I did not that's that that's the game keyboard. No, I did not play that one Um, yeah, I wish I could say more but I can't Thoughts on how brie larson was cast to play zelda in a live action netflix series until nintendo came to the census and cancelled it No, I I no wait. I got told this story nintendo cancelled it because um, netflix breached the nda They that's the story They just uh, apparently they leaks things on purpose to generate hype and nintendo were fucking furious They they cancelled it. Wow. I've never heard of a studio intentionally breaching an nda. That's crazy. And a star fox game as well Star fox movie not movie tv show. I think as well, which would have been wow They cancelled these shows that people would have fucking eaten up. That's They breached. Yeah, that's the story that I heard. Let me actually let me legend of zelda netflix Uh, yeah, this was from a couple of days ago. It was leaked and they cancelled it Or reportedly they reportedly cancelled it. It may still be happening Wait, hold on. I wait. I need to know about this so Uh, let's see Did they ever go into production or was it all just like planned? It says it was in development Okay, then they didn't start shooting it So it was gonna happen. We were gonna make a fantastic mr. Fox style star fox then three then uh A month later there were reports netflix wasn't doing a legend of zelda anymore And then I heard a rumor that they weren't doing star fox anymore someone at netflix leaked the legend of zelda And they weren't supposed to talk about it nintendo freaked out Because it was the first time they had done any television or other adaptation for years and years and years But when netflix leaked it they freaked out and pulled the plug on the entire program Damn Well, I bet they feel Fucking like kind of annoyed about that in terms of just damn this could have been the beginning of a lot of stuff, you know Yeah I would have liked a star fox show that was stop motion animated. That sounds fucking awesome Would you have liked brie last night zelda? I Like she could be good, you know She could Um If wailin utani attained the aliens, how would they use them in a way that isn't retarded and couldn't be done with real life weapons? Just curious Um, I guess we can't know exactly what their interest is, but having your hands exclusively on a species like it's gonna be something a company may or may not be interested in right especially in like the future where Brand new species might be one of the only things that can Even be super valuable those days at least in the terms of like all resources being possibly wildly available. I don't know um They can experiment on them study them for biological advantages in any way shape or form the idea that they would use them as a weapon I mean it's not impossible, right? It's just I don't I mean I kind of agree like whatever scenario they're looking to unleash aliens into feels like It wouldn't be as effective as possibly every single of the thing they have as an option Because um, even as we saw in aliens your average army can probably mow down a lot of aliens But you know for study alone, I'd say is is going to be why they'd have an interest especially over like What's with more one alien specimen or crew of people? It's like, yeah, fuck the crew We don't need them That was why you so aggressive Such an asshole Eat my laser gun you bastard I'm back. What happened? I came back and everyone's like muted and deafened and All of you had different things happen at the same time. Oh, wow. Yeah, I had to answer the door um, yeah, I was I guess I was saying um Like if you're nintendo and you have these shows that people are clearly super excited in and would be very interested in watching Like sure if netflix breaches the nda then like take it out on them You know, yeah, like it comes across as really really petty and childish to cancel the whole project Because it got leaked I guess it's tied to the fact that they're like antsy about it all just because it's the first thing Which is like they should know about this like what should happen now What do you do is offer it to someone else. I don't know amazon Maybe they are who knows Like maybe behind the scenes. They're like, hey amazon, we'll take it from you if you mention anything about this Don't risk it buddy. Oh fucking. I wouldn't have died there if she died faster Oh, I didn't mean to continue. Oh, well, we'll commit Uh, hi kormack Y'all should try watching the new dc 52 animated movies So I said brags nintendo is bigger than you. You don't deserve to understand their thinking Kind of a fucking dumb ass comment I'm gonna assume that's a joke You don't deserve to understand What if I really want to Kallel is super pro choice Is choice Superman has every kryptonian kum and womb all in his cells so I'm guessing it's the the pods are like I don't I don't honestly I don't know What do they draw out of his cells that they put into those you're like genetic scrambler re-scrambler things Yeah, they said it works. Okay. I'm gonna trust them. They're the kryptonian scientists. I'm just a guy What's the point of nda if it can just can be breached whenever no no I said specifically take it out on netflix Like sue them or something Yeah, and like I said, you can go to amazon. Fuck them Be like amazon netflix fuck sova. So Now any company who tries that shit again, they know they're gonna lose it. Yep If anything this could be beneficial to nintendo Now nobody gets anything everybody loses. What is the new dc 52 animated movies? What is that? The new 52 was like the dc reboot version of um Yeah, they rebooted the continuity as for the films. I don't I don't know Um if superman all of superman cells double uppers sperm cells does clock is a giant flying laser shooting testicle Does the s really stand for scrotum? Obviously it stands for hope We've been over this. Oh About filmento speech patents. His native language is monotone and learning a foreign Accent shade Annunciation, sorry is a separate skill naturally. He'd sound like kimmy Ray conan his mcbeth video is very good. I am oh Um, I'm less concerned with how he speaks compared to what his script is I I find his use of language to be uh over compensating a lot of the time He adds in words where I think he thinks it makes the script sound a bit better Filmento. Yeah Definitely like there's a lot of redundancies in the script And um, they're oftentimes words that just make you think oh You put that in there to make it more flashy Even though the word means the same thing as the next word he used that sort of thing Um, when nostalgia critics skit for the skull skull skull scene makes more sense No show the rainbows show the rainbows I have no idea what that reference does I can imagine what they're referring to and that is funny I mean, I imagine the starter critic had a much more critical review of man of steel. It might even be Good Who knows? Wait, Superman didn't cause zod to destroy earth. It's a failed copy of alien It's always gonna be a broad way to do it. It's a story. It's kind of like alien um I turned myself into a donut mohler. I'm dory nut fringy Hopefully he can survive um When the world engine was making krypton's atmosphere, why weren't people of metropolis choking to death or even breathing hard? I don't get how it works. No idea. I have no idea how that thing works at all Yeah, I don't know if it was gonna like for all we knew that was gonna take a year to complete whatever it was doing Or it was gonna take a day. I don't know It's so All of it's so terrible. You know, it looks like it would have taken a while For all we know like what if it goes when it fires a big wave across all of earth that just obliterates everything and then krypton Yeah, it just fucks everything up and it's indistinguishable from krypton I'm gonna be a lot shorter I'm telling you man We were just waiting for the platoon sound and it was going to be attached to the soundtrack where drums went It would have been epic as fuck Kallel and Dorf enough Till men took Dorf enough Glad you're finally covering the dceu star wars was starting to depress me. Oh, it'll come back to depress you. Don't worry Do you see how many tv shows they're making? That'd be great. We got 12 of these shit to go through. Yeah Uh Spoiler warning baby Yoda's blood is used to create Snoke maybe Fuck me. I mean, I'd say it's pretty likely from what we've seen in season two. Yeah Yeah John Favreau has said the the battle lord is heading toward the sequels like that's what it's doing. It's like, all righty Another crowd Um But fringy, what about kill bill two superman speech What? Oh, um kill bill two he argues that like The reason superman is the most interesting hero is because he's the only one whose regular persona is his mask Everyone else is the reverse Um Batman's regular persona is his mask Yeah, like bruce is his mask while he feels like he's become batman Um, at least I I'd have to rewatch it. I remember liking that speech a lot from uh, oh, I could Fuck you captain falcon Uh, does that snide. I think that kansas is some era irreversible there Irreprehensible dystopian hellscape. That's full of evil people. Remember when dorothy wanted to go back to kansas Why is superman in this film boom, man? Um Well, I think the hellscape was supposed to be krypton. Okay The the kansas isn't as pretty as it probably could be. What else what else can you say? Reprehensible dystopian hellscape I think the saxnider has a bit of a boner for irreprehensible dystopian hellscapes Just a little bit A real fan should be able to deflect the flaws, but a fake fan just accepting anything Imagine calling yourself a fan of predator, but you like the predator. Oh Fucking hell, what do I mean? That's the kind of stuff where I get confused as a lot of people do because you're like wait, but they count to each other So what is it you're a fan of? Is it literally just the imagery of a predator? As long as it has that in it. It's okay. It might be Do you just like to see luke skywalker with the lightsaber? Is that it? Oh, I think there's a couple of people who might just feel that yes Uh Do what mr. Fantastic did to battle magneto use a wooden gun to trick him What does that have to do with man of steel? Also, a wooden gun to trick him Stand up Meaning I'd trick him though couldn't he tell It says do what mr. Fantastic did to battle magneto use a wooden gun to trick him I don't know where that would have come up when we were talking about that But um a wooden gun meaning everything in it is wood except Would the bullet be wooden too? Maybe he's a bow and arrow Yeah, at that point a slingshot Hey, that's what they do in um X of an apocalypse rock on it. Remember they have bows and arrows on him He's like, oh, jeez He's gotta go old school This one just says the chook. I don't know how to make of that The chook the chook Oh, I didn't even get to rip a ring Which avenger is the most powerful objectively kevin said scarlet witch, but he's a flippin moron. I propose dr. Strange Well So when you say the most powerful Do you mean the one that is most likely to win ultimately or the one that like in some kind of measurable sense can deal the most damage Because scarlet witch is up there Yeah, when you get into the weird magicky ones, it's hard to Because like iron man his peak can deal a shit ton of damage to anyone too But He's like dr. Strange could kill any of them, right? But then again, dr. Strange could be killed theoretically by loads of them too So it's like going by who can kill is kind of useless. You have to be like I don't know. I mean surely it is captain marvel though, right as much as I think it is captain marvel. Yeah She's indestructible and super She can travel at the speed of light. Yeah, I'm faster than the speed of light. I'm not sure how scarlet witch beats captain marvel You try and grab it, but I don't even know if that would stop her I don't know. I don't see that it would Yeah, I might as well be captain marvel unfortunately The hulk is practically immortal. No, I gotta imagine hulk could get killed. I mean he bled and he got knocked out. Yeah That Absolutely remember cap the marvel can fly around in space and then take off at faster than light speed Yep, she can just work out. That's that's fucking nuts. I would assume Why is superman in good shape wouldn't his powers make it extremely difficult to stress his body to generate any muscle mass also high rags Hi Interesting maybe his powers just make him have he just has strong muscles Jor-El does actually mention something about earth doing something to his muscles like they just make his muscles Loopy in a good way. I don't know She's faster than light except what she has to get to a van. So true Trust me. It was good that she didn't get to that van It would have caused so much worse things to happen because for some reason they didn't recognize that Thanos could throw his little sword faster than she could fly He's got a real good throw it arbor. What? It's a fancy man. He's a he's a strong boy strong boy Filmento had his chance. Oh no Hello massives. Hello rags Hi, just saw gerald's game an interesting watch wanted to know your thoughts on the movie um, I really like it except some schisms at the end and uh But like overall story and the the sort of premise feels like a writer's challenge Like your character stuff. How do you tell a story when you're stuck in one room? Um, but I give it thumbs up. There's just a small change that you could actually do with editing the movie that I think would improve it greatly To remain spoiler free That's all I can say I feel like it's probably fun people to go check out gerald's game. Go do it folks Detempt you the guy who made blind manner in hillhouse made it And it's an adaptation of a steven king novel Oh, yes Morrell no also hi rags. Oh, hi Well, they say no to me, but hello to you. What's that about? I don't know. Maybe they're racist. I don't know. It's like me It's kind of funny how the predator and it chapter two came out the same year and both had characters committing suicide as a noble action to take Fringy bruce tried to shoot himself in the first avengers movie Yeah, I know but what i'm saying is like surely if I dropped hulk into the sun he would die Wait, why would just because a pistol doesn't work on the hulk doesn't mean he can't be killed I don't think that's true at all. We all know that a desert eagle can shoot through anything Maybe it wasn't a desert eagle, right? You don't know You don't know maybe it was a 1911. Those are popular They are The shoes had their chance. Oh, this is when we're talking about pebbles being in people's shoes, I think The horse Hello massives, I'm the creator of the minecraft art and this is the first time I've sent money to a creator keep up the great work Also, hi rags. Oh, wow. Hi there. Yep. Um, I've got that stored. We are gonna record a meme fap soon I'm sure of it Been very busy every single Time we get extensive periods of time is free. We end up on someone else's stream or recording something You know, it's getting there. It's all logged. It's gonna be a long meme fap. Maybe even two Really nice The tornado is a metaphor for the big gay. I knew it That's just what I said when we were watching it There's a comma coming Um, what if par kent just wanted a high five? Oh He didn't get it No, he's he's saying here's my hand come grab it and take me away. Help me. Come get me. Help me. I'm old Clark, I know I said you could have ditched the kids, but I want to be saved. Okay I I'm different Clark I'm not like those kids I blame you. I blame you Uh grand marsons all-star superman does a better job with clock's dad and his fate Come on every single iteration probably does a better job Like this was really bad Uh clock i'll save you dad his dad nor Oh That's the canon so what happened Um, the biggest clock plot contrivance not whole because this can technically happen It would be just insanely unlikely of wonder woman 84's last act is that she had any time to save anyone once lord made his broadcast Someone would wish for everyone dad quickly Yep. Yeah, there's a lot of There's about 17 000 problems with that Yeah, that's what I mean the um, I was actually talking uh before you came into the call Rags about how like man of steel is so bad I was like can it even reach 84 and it's just like well that wish issue kind of just It's just destroys 84. There's just nothing left Yeah, we get up to keter territory You ain't saving me son talk to the hand Yep Uh, what is with video essayists always rambling bullshot Bullshit, I suppose and uh, yeah, well, I mean Redraft What is meant to be an essay you telling me when you wrote essays for school you didn't go through them more than once I don't know. Some of them feel like they've got a they've got a quota, right? They got to get I think phil mentors is like one per three weeks or something. So right Not to imply he's not incredibly passionate. It's just that I didn't three weeks to me I don't know. I don't want to claim anything No, it took two days to make he waited till the last two days and then he fucking rushed that shit out I shouldn't like to assume but um, yeah, like I said, I Don't think it that would be the most charitable thing to assume That it was rushed and it's not really indicative of his actual quality work Trying to come up with excuses for why his video is shit Um angry joe is the human embodiment of pure moist What because he's hispanic I don't know I would hurt if they didn't make Yeah, I don't know. I don't even know what that means Are they critical when they say moist? He's stolen the word moist Literature devil has a great video on superman that goes into a lot about who's superman Who is superman and what he's about and what modern writers tend to mess up? Oh fuck, that's gonna be a long video. He's gonna talk about all the ways they fucked him up It's like well, let's uh, open the lord released Yeah, you know, I'm not I'm not getting superman fundamentally. I think you can do a lot of good shit with him But fuck me get him away from Zach Snyder Rescue him who knows what he's gonna be doing in the Snyder cut You excited rags you still got two movies worth of that world Um in terms of Batman and Superman at least I'm very excited to see these quality films in the comfort of my own home. Oh, yes Delivered straight to my door To the power of the internet The black gateway portal to hell The killing finally stopped time to eFap Oh god, it's filmento bring back the killing You're being killed or you were you were killing people I would say at this point it's better to watch filmento than killing people That's that's that's my hot take Especially if you're a soldier Oh, yes, does Mola have his own mini called Mini me called smaller Can't confirm maybe Smaller that's funny. Yeah There were so many missed opportunities with man of steel saying it's the best dceu is not a compliment This movie could have been great, but the plot ruined lots of moments with dumb decisions about characters Honestly, all of its rude. There's like nothing that works in that fucking movie But um as per usual, it's like it's not like it wasn't impossible for them to work with what they had Had a lot of resources. They had a shit ton of money That film was clearly expensive And there's a crazy cast in the Snyderverse because all kinds of people Yeah, it's huge. They even got dug from house of cards, you know, that's how you know they're top tier Um, I'm glad I got a chance to see an e-fab live love the show. Well, well, glad you're here Uh people like john campius says man of steel is superhero movie gold standard and the perfect superman to write in the modern era. What? I get I get it when they say iron man is a gold standard in terms of just a sort of blueprint It's just like an asterix next to it, but how the fuck is man of steel anything close to that It's weird because that's what phil mento is arguing for We need more of them to be like Uh thoughts on superman red one. I think it is funny as fuck Is that to do with when he becomes a communist It's red sun, right? I don't know that was red sun. Oh, maybe they misspelled it. Well, it's One so it's a weird way to spell sun by accident, but maybe Um, did you guys know that secretary ross becomes the red hulk in the marvel comics? Do you think it could work if they went down that road in the mcu? I would prefer that they don't Like, you know, we're very much the people who say like you could make anything work, but Yeah, I don't know if you have to yeah, just because they did it don't mean that Yeah, there are some ideas where it's just like you don't have to do that, you know And I feel like they end up saying that a lot when they're adapting comic books You don't have to do that Yeah, you don't have to do that. You could just not Maybe if you just stop right there criminal scum I'm lucky with these pokeman's Hi rags. I just got battlefield 4 for my laptop and having fun playing on mouse and keyboard Also, thank you for getting me into pc gaming. Oh, I'm very glad that you're enjoying it and it ends with also mohler Hello Yeah, pc gaming is pretty legendary Um, the black hole was real. Amy Adams was just heavy Oh my goodness The thing is that probably would just make it fall in quicker, right? I forget but like nothing escapes black holes But yeah, nothing Only lois's plot armor This app is super upsetting to me. Oh, that's where we're at But yes, it should be That I can't I'd like oh You know, we always talk about like how it's good to find out about the thing you're promoting I love how like again on the surface that thing is horrible Yeah, don't we go down read the summaries? And you said they had 17 million people using that service Yeah, it said that Fuck That might be the worst app I've ever heard of but you have heard of me So it takes efap and turns it into a list of ism I don't know what it would do with efap. How does it summarize? Sounds like it would be a tough one Um earlier soup was a joke that app is bad audible better I mean audible is an actual service This thing just seems like a joke Yeah, at least with audible you get the entire book Yeah, you just listen to it instead of read it. Yep That's that to me see that's a service. It's a good service. That's a good service The one that's like I'll read the book for you and tell you what it was about. Okay Thanks, bro People pay for that what is wrong with you Do these people out there who are like no seriously though It is really good because it just saves me a lot of time. Do you think that person is out there at what cost? At what cost? Contributing what I can for rags to make blink tits Oh, I'm gonna blink tits patreon stretch goal. Oh, yeah Blink tits sounds like something from gedelb We could make it a gedelb thing. Please join blink tits. It'll what would be the meme Is there a code with ideas are not saying You know, I've got to think this is this is delicate material Whose video is supposed to practice reading comprehension? We'll do it for you Your one stop service app To I don't know chat. What do we got? It watches movies and shows you the titties But that's a service. No, it has to be bad That's a good thing I could see that actually getting some kind of popularity. This has got to be a bad service Watches a movie and tells you a couple of lines out of context Watches a movie and tells you it's themes But the themes are all incorrect like that's completely wrong Main of steel is about identity and coming of age and Heroism in the modern world Please give me two hundred dollars a year I've got this move this video is sponsored by blink tits Your one stop service app to watch movies for you with a summary of its themes Subscribe now in the actual watch five movies at random for you We have no saying which ones Half of them are just like not even english language films and the information is in one of the languages from America online for internet someone in the chat said I showed you my themes please respond Long book bad. Also. Hey guys wish I was there instead of stuck at work during super bowl weekend That's from southpaw. Yeah, he were he was there for watching the movie. It was it was pleasant In quotations you see Man of steel is quite the ride Do you think any movie in the dcu will beat out man of steel for miserableness? Because bvs is the only one that I think could have but I still think the man of steel is more miserable I think it might be the most miserable. Yeah, that's and that's saying something Because we got justice league. Well zack snider snider cut might be more miserable really long too Because we'll find out uh, who needs college when you have blinkest. Oh, yeah learn now Uh Wouldn't it be perfect? Wouldn't it be a perfect way to make his self-exile make sense if he had used his super speed to save his dad at the last minute Um, but because of the high speed the dad was traveling at he had his heart attack and clock's identity was revealed I think this is serious. This isn't a joke You know, I've had a lot of things that have made more sense So then he leaves because he's outcasted by society but also cause he feels responsible for his dad's death Even though he would be dead anyway Um So like the idea of being you pull him away from it too fast and he accidentally kills him Maybe through whiplash or through causing a heart attack. I don't know Um, I think that would be more interesting I think that one all the one a little barred across but yeah Yeah, a dad who was saved by a son who he told not to you know, give himself up and that his secret is really important But he's the one who is in trouble that He had the secret given up for Anything would have been better than watching him fucking die He would have been even more effective to have clock had toward him like I don't know Anything anything other than just watching him Maybe try and kill run You could have run into the tornado and run the opposite direction and just cancel the tornado Oh, yeah, I rounded in the opposite direction. Nice do it. There you go. I think you save everybody. Yay Uh, someone creates a hero then someone else creates the anti version of that hero i.e Superman and bright burn If both movies are the exact same quality, but people like the anti hero over the hero. Is that a failure of the creator? I don't think so You can't really tell what people are gonna like more ultimately, right? If you make a superman and then you make a they said anti hero bright burn is a straight up horrible villain Just fucking murders people But if they end up liking the one that A better example I guess would be capped in america versus punisher or or daredevil versus punisher Maybe and someone's like I prefer punisher. It's like that doesn't mean the daredevil writer failed. I don't think Just uh People end up maybe they line up with them more. There could be so many different reasons to like them They could literally be like I like the pro punisher's logo more like, all right. Yeah Uh shadow warrior 2 is a four player co-op after prolog All right, it's a good game Uh blinkest feels like an app specified for the type of lazy people that try and win internet fights by citing well In the books argument Dude is perfect for video essayists honestly like i'm starting to think they actually use it Dude explained some of the 17 million Yeah, it's it's why they're they just have basic information That's weird in this book that I read this paragraph of and stole this quote because it matched their poor making me an expert I feel like i'm qualified to make an internet video about it. Well, you see that reminds me of call mox I Don't even remember what video that was but it was wonderful. It was brown table, right? The fucking memelord you didn't even realize it was either brown table or just right Is one of them. Yeah, just right. I think just just right. Hey boy. I think yeah It was really weird because in this video he was like, oh this before we talk about that I need to talk about this book about psychology. Oh wait. I didn't have to read it because I have this great app That's like what he didn't he didn't even relate it to the subject That's actually a really good point. He doesn't actually yeah He didn't do the part where he was like in a quote from this book is this which kind of applies to you know Dude man or whatever. He didn't That's so weird. Do the thing. He got confused along the way Ifap ruins art blinkest ruins literature Okay. Yes, it does I've got an entry for lord of the rings the bad guys make an evil ring. So the good guys destroyed it Well, there's a great story right there. I'd say it's classic. I'd say you've got um agency Stakes and goal right there. So Yeah, you've done plot the plot is now completed. You're done. You got to work on the c In the gsu It's funny to me because it's like Batwoman she has a goal to prevent the Infected bats from eating the citizens of gartham The stakes are the people of gartham dying and the urgency is that it's happening right now It's like whoa batwoman passed the gsu test Because fucking everything does yeah You basically have to have a plot If you don't you basically you just have a photograph. I don't even that's what I mean I don't know what it looks like. Have we got a movie that just this can't be applied I don't talk to filmento sometime. You're like, how does any of this work? How do you how do you how does brain I need to know? Uh blink is 12 rules for life is literally the 12 rules Yeah, if there was a book called like the numbered and the Rule for anything they would just lay out the rules. I think that would be the smart way to do it Go save people time. They don't need to read all the fluff. Thank you blinkest Adolf Hitler said every book only has one main idea when you get that idea move on to the next book Of course, we seldom follow Hitler's advice Why not That's some okay ideas. I mean most of his ideas were probably good. It's just the ones he had that were bad We're really bad. Yeah, that's yeah, that's it. He's probably like, you know, bathe regularly eat fruits and veggies Yeah, most of his you know, most of his advice would probably be really good. Take your dog for walks It's like I don't hit looks good, but I would love to read it though. No, I would love to read it on blinkest, you know Just get the the cliff notes version. Yeah, wouldn't want to waste my time Um, I'm slowly building weight today. Sorry. Do they have a cliff? I mean, I don't see why not right You got I'd love to know what is the user up to something I feel like the summary sections are gonna tell you more about the person making them that it will you, you know, like Yeah, whatever it is. They're covering. They're like, oh, I read, you know, fucking whatever 1984 I think it's pretty boring. I guess the main point was like bad stuff could eventually happen Do you want to stop that? He said um, he said there's a lot of nonfiction As well, which to me seems even like I don't even know which is worse Like having a book say for example, it's like the best diet to engage with with blah, blah, blah, and then you just like summarize that Like surely you need all of the books so like If you are eyeballing it, which is worse Summarizing fiction or summarizing nonfiction Say nonfiction because nonfiction is like history too. Yeah. Yeah You know because with if you're summarizing fiction and reducing it to the point of absurdity You're not you're not care. You're not charactering real life You know what I mean? You're just characterizing someone's fiction that they worked on either way. It's bad Yeah, it's not fiction But at least with you're missing crucial points. Yeah, at least with fiction you've not missed out Say for example, it's like this book will teach you all about the medical intricacies of blah, blah, blah That it's like Yeah, I mean just just perform the surgery I Went to medical school out of reading got him up. I just got blinkest Oh my god, I imagine blinkest like gets around they start like employing it for school You say it like it's some kind of venereal disease. It is of the app world of yeah Get it out of here An std of the mind Um someone I don't like reading or listening me. Why are you here? Yeah Um, I don't think I've ever heard someone use so many words to say so little than I have with film enter I don't know. We've covered a few people like that. I wouldn't want to say he has the crown But um, no, he's not the worst, but he's definitely doing that. He's doing that thing. Yeah Uh, this app contributes to something that many want to extol mediocrity and the citizens If philip k dick would arise from his grave. Well, maybe he was not so paranoid or mental as we thought Sorry for my english. Gracias I mean, yeah, it's uh I love the idea that there's a guy out there because this has happened. He's read Fucking 50 books on blinkest and he's told people that but not the blinkest part Like oh, yeah, man. He's told the part about how many books these are. Yeah Yeah, I'd be curious for like someone who is you don't even have to be well read You just will have to read some books And you go to blinkest and see how this how the notes compared to the real thing. Yeah It's gonna be interesting. We're gonna make a good video out of that. Anyone out there? Probably could. Yeah Oh man, you can't go through it. Boo. Um Big thanks. No problem. Whatever that may be relating to Uh, do do do. Don't worry about chat. Some people are too busy looking for gotchas to use in their unlisted comments to pay attention to your points Nothing new Hey, you know what? It's all right. Some of them say some really dumb shit Some of them add some really funny things or interesting things. You know how they are a collective grombozoid Car frozen can't go anywhere, but efap is on great stream timing Also, I theorize that stormtroopers are bribed by the characters to not hit them so they seem cool But they're dangerous, but the characters are just clever slash ass I don't know. I don't know if it's worth my life So funny that if we really wanted to fix from the ground up like Mandalorian if we were right in it We'd have to employ some crazy shit like that to account for all of the bullshit Like obviously we would opt to just move on But if they were like, no, you have to contextualize it to make it better like the previous seasons The stormtroopers are failed clones Like they they really don't actually know how to aim and shoot and shit like they The the point is the first well the the empire remnant is so run down that these aren't even soldiers at all. They're just these Yeah, like disgusting sort of creatures like you take their masks off and they're just blobs They're supposed to just look scary. That's all And the only reason they beat the um, the Mandalorians Is because it's actually it wasn't them. It was some unseen villain that we're going to add in season three. Okay Hold Thrown Very different from thorn. Thrown Excuse me. Thrown. How are you? Thrown. You are in the way. Master Thrown Thrown in the mouth Aren't the swim are you shelled around mr. Thrown? See so much potential guys If any of you guys seen the wolf of wall street and if so, what do you think about the film? Um, I remember liking it. I saw it when it came out. I had a lot of fun with it Yeah, it's a very entertaining film Yeah It looks like that's all we got. Sorry. Oh, wow No, I didn't mean for superchats. I meant for that topic Oh, I don't know what um What what else to say? I need to rewatch it to be honest with you Yeah, it's good. It's long, but it's you know, it's a fun ride like the Irishman, right? I didn't like the Irishman No, I think there's a solid hour and a half of good film buried in there, but uh Yeah, man. I really felt the length of that one and again, it's like a long man is like, hey, hey Lord the rings fine and dandy to me It's not about the length How you use it. Yeah, it's how you stuff it in there. Hmm Um, how does a space fairing civilization with terra formation technology go extinct with the destruction of one planet? They all have the tools to live No, that's a fascinating question No idea As soon as he said we've been traveling the stars for hundreds of thousands of years. It was like, oh, we're over It's dead You know 100,000 years do you have wars presumably like you see because he described it as they prospered Yeah, like one galactic civil your species won the game of life. Yeah, you fucking dominate actually good job It's like no, no, no, we all died you look Like I'm missing the part to that story Um, how does this? Oh, sorry. Is it trying to draw a parallel to our own history ion in terms of the moon landing? I don't know though seems dumb to me I don't what's the connection there that we went to the moon and didn't do much else or And then earth blew up so the moon Yeah, I can't even be connected to anything In the comics or at least one vision of the story Krypton was the imperium of man on steroids and the green lanterns beat them to the beat them back to krypton They were quarantined and over time even after that was lifted. They became isolationist until it was too late Well, that's a completely different story Sounds neat. Yeah, I mean it sounds more interesting than what we got when krypton died everything else did sad face This is a surprisingly good impression. This is all I would say sad face sad face Thanks for the pub talk on a saturday night lull high rags and critical Hi He's not here critical. I mean this drinker is here in spirit. I suppose hey that kind of doubles up Anyway ziggity zaggy rags talks kind of Oh, then there's there's like space for another word ziggity zaggy rags talks kind of and then Think of a word that could go around what could it be? Faggity rags talks Yeah riggedy raggedy rags talks calamity Yeah, that's probably it in zero gravity Okay, ignore the green lantern bit of my last chat Apparently I fooled myself into accepting my own head canon as canon Apparently the science skill just voted to end the 20 plus galaxy empire How what why why? So everyone obeyed them like no I live on this empire. God damn it. I live on this this planet It's so funny to me because the the writers of this shit seem to be that it's like yes, they had a huge civilization until they didn't Like you gotta gotta actually do more than that You missed a step in there somewhere understand Check out media zealot in his video about kryptonians good stuff high rags Hi Yeah, maybe I don't care about kryptonians They are favorites Yeah, the whole functionally human species evolving everywhere in the universe thing And the comics comes down to the guardians of the universe encoding their form into the universe Oh, is this a way to explain why everything is humanoid is that what I was saying? Because um a lot of fiction has that issue I guess Even star trek the original series has an episode really like talk about that Hmm Pink kryptonite turns you gay not even a joke Um green can you confirm this? I don't know. I don't that doesn't sound right I kind of hope it's true Um, apparently soldiers are just mindless robots who only follow orders to the letter Please ignore the literal hundreds of thousands of millions of examples pointing to the contrary So fucking yeah, I mean the people say like how you see zahd was bred to be this way You're like, what do you mean an idiot like why does soldiers have to be this way? And then and then I know there's There is a trope out there concerning soldiers where it's like Soldiers are these weird like For these pro grant Like so we've we've done a pretty darn good job at figuring out what makes a soldier really effective in battle In terms of keeping their you know mental faculty straight keeping them You know swapping them out making sure they're not You know mentally fucked up and scarred and how their training is and so there's a trope in fictional media about how soldiers are Like basically abused mentally and physically to become killing machines and stuff like that That just doesn't make any sense whatsoever I wish I knew what it was because this I mean because man of steel really kind of plays around with that idea results. Just this evil killing machine That's just all he does Yeah, but like but his goal is peace for krypton. You know, I mean He wants to get to the point where the civilization flourishes as krypton And I'm just so what happens if he gets that does he just mellow out or does he start playing chess? What else can you do? I don't know. I feel like especially phil mento. He's like, oh, you know once His whole goal is to You know perpetuate kryptonian life and all that stuff But as soon as krypton is dead he just goes crazy and starts killing like what? Like if you're a soldier in a war and your side loses you don't like Take a suicide pact like you have a different goal now right because you're a human being I don't know. Maybe I'm just crazy Thank you. Yeah, just crazy whenever I Like I'm at the bottom of my like my whole human race is destroyed And I'm looking the guy in the eye who did it when I threatened to kill his whole civilization and people and loved ones You know, I'm like time to get revenge by killing everyone you love. Oh that film sucks Yeah, it's pretty bad. It's pretty bad zemo to talk to zod Like What are you doing? He's like I'm gonna kill everyone here Reassess the situation and try to figure out what's best for him going forward It wouldn't it be cool to write zod in such a way that he has to deal with the fact that krypton can never come back And now he has to change his goal to match that of getting kryptonians born That'd be interesting. Wouldn't that be yeah, well I yeah the reset button is like well there has to be a krypton for me to protect krypton So how do I go about making a krypton and his mind turns that into How can I make this planet like krypton that I can protect? Yeah, man, I think that um If they really wanted to make kryp, uh, if they really wanted to make zod like Not a typical human being like he was bred for a very specific function kind of like he's a robot They could have done really interesting things with that, but they really didn't know Okay, that's it. I feel like the because we we didn't talk about this for too long, but um The idea of he wants to enslave earth or at least control and mold earth to become a new krypton That's the best he can do and so he like he just wants to be like i'm in charge of the government for now on and it's like You could even have it be That they have a relative piece brokered, but then he like decides naturally is like well, of course, I should be in charge I'm the most powerful. I'm the most experienced. I've controlled space faring like civilization Of course, you have to give your shit up to me You're like shit And what if the the drama there is that in exchange he will give humans access to incredible technology I don't know. We got a movie, you know like imagine like a story. Yeah, you're describing what we call a movie Uh if I've gives me an emotion-based climax uwu rags You're on him my client did kill 20 innocent people, but he's a soldier. What else could he do? It makes sense Man of steel needed steel manning during filmmaking Oh, do you mean like steel manning the script is that what we could call it? I think they call it script Maybe someone to say what what the fuck you doing Zach? Hey Zach, you know um, you know the page with all the issues on it's like which one is like the script like I just I was thinking maybe we could throw that out Hey Zach, uh, I was thinking we could change everything too harsh, but I was thinking maybe we could do a page one rewrite How about that? He's like, oh just the first page right starting at the first page A page one rewrite means you start from scratch Yeah, but Zach wouldn't know that. Yeah, I don't know why you think Zach would understand Like you're talking to us uh Well, we're in the dc arc. We're oh, yeah, we're the pre-block finish. It is not it will return. That's how arcs work, right? You can just randomly Avengers come zone. Yeah Um, is the issue with my soul line Shannon's delivery or that you disagree with zod's concept of what a soul is also happy birthday mental I would say I'm cool with him referring to having lost his purpose as I guess losing his soul It's just more so it's such over villain dialogue Like um in the same way that it would be if he said you've destroyed everything that means everything to me You're like, uh In the same way saying you're a monster zod and I will stop you Like this guy is it's just big superman Bailey have to speak I guess very surface level You know, there's not a lot of nuance to the dialogue, especially with the villains I think there's an element of melodrama that's getting the funnies to me. I'm saying you've destroyed my soul or taken my soul Yeah, a shakespearian. Thou hast destroyed my soul Like oh, it's okay zoid curtain's drop Exit stage. Oh my god. The stream Pikachu makes upon death. It's horrifying Because it's not like Yoda Um, no not like the Yoda. The Yoda one's quite pleasant to listen to I'd say Yes, it's it's asmr Yeah It's not that Zad says I will find him It's not that he says I will find him. It's that on the third day he goes I will find him Yeah, that one's easy to explain. It's so just what why you it's like I will find him and you're like Why are you yelling? How much cooler would it have been to say like this doesn't change anything you you're gonna blow up You're gonna die. I'm gonna live. I'm gonna be alive. They they're shooting me into space on my penis pod I'm gonna be alive You're gonna fucking die after you're dead and gone and all of krypton's dead and gone I'll still be out there with all the time in the world to find your fucking son Yeah, yeah in the nut sack I'll be way though. Maybe if he said then it would just go. Hey, should we just kill them? I was like, oh, yeah He's got a good point should be like you all of you out of the pods. We're getting in He says that um, you don't have the courage to kill us or something. You don't want to do it with your own hands I think he says I don't know It would be really funny, you know, funny. Good if he said all that Then he moves away and before the pods are sealing. He says I will find him And that's it. You don't need to fucking shout it. Make it all embarrassing I work cool It's like fucking Aries And they keep getting these good actors to say these goofy lines, yeah, I know Why'd you do Michael Shannon and You know Lupin and Harry Potter He's good. They're both good I mean David Thewis is like fine in the rest of the movie, you know Yeah, as the normie general dude. He's just like he's doing his normal shit Yeah, he's he's arguably arguably one of the Oh, no, he's got us. He gets a good end There's a good little end with the the one evil lady soldier chick, but oh no, he's he's kind of talking about uh, David Thewis and Wonder Woman Oh, fuck that um Filmento uses blink it blink it blink it astray. That was what was called Blink tits blink tits to make his video. There's a good chance. He does. He did say that he did He's the one that we know uses it Um, do I have to do I have to make a video trailer like that other guy to get you massives to watch the backstroke of the west dub video trailer Um, no, well, I'm sure we're gonna check it out at some point eventually. Give us a few more years. Okay gonna happen Oh, yeah, happy birthday metal Hi rags Hi there metal tell them to watch backstroke of the west all right And uh chris is just coping for the lack of personality chris chris, um Stockman Oh to do with the jojoba's witness thing I mean I sucked out my personality as a child. Well from what I understand Isn't the whole thing like that is kind of part of it like they were super controlling and he He didn't get to maybe breaking free of whatever Oh his his video about being a former or an ex jojoba's witness is the most interesting and compelling thing he's ever And I actually think it's a really really good video. I hope he uh Continues to improve his content from here, but honestly, it's really compelling video. He's gonna run out of tragedy to talk about Well, it's really good. It's really it's worth the watch. It's really fast. I don't got that. It's probably a uh Yeah, it's probably like a I mean, it's certainly not something I'm familiar with at all It's really it's really Interesting to see just how fucking crazy jojoba's witness is You know, I mean, I don't All I've ever known about jojoba's witnesses is that they bother you on the weekend Yeah, tell you how much you stuck. Have you hear the good news? Is that them and considering just how like how crazy they are in terms of turning your family against you if you were an ex jojoba's witness Yeah, it does take a decent amount of bravery to make the video you did so I commend him for that You guys should do an efat movies of backstroke of the west. It's absolutely hilarious. I'm not against it. We may very well Uh, fringy wants the battle of emu jima But anyways guys Hyal ragler and happy late flampus de moodle Hyal ragler indeed Hylo Molo, what are your thoughts on naughty dog coming out with a new dlc for the last of us later this year where we explored joel's character Before he met ellie. Oh, Jesus christ. Oh, fuck off. They're gonna destroy him aren't they Oh Is he gonna kill like a kid or something in that scene to be like I did what I had to Like yeah, that's one of those things were psyched. Please stop. It's already dead But we already we already know it. We already know it's all bad shitty horrible stuff Well, that's the whole point. That's the thing though I don't trust them to portray it because Like you've seen what they're up to with with like the actual game Like I want someone who understands joel as he is when we meet him in the last of us to write that history, you know He probably did he write the first one alone or was he like People talk about there's that other person, right? Uh bruce Stately, fuck me. I know the guy called bruce. He was the game director. Apparently they both worked on it Um, and now he's gone So it's just him and uh that new person as well who was working on it too. So Maybe that's maybe that's an uncharted four was not strictly him as well But maybe if it was maybe it would have been a fucking disaster too Hey, man I bet cuckman will show joel's favorite hobby before the apocalypse was golf That's he's gonna think it's very clever Oh How ironic those who live by the club die by the club I love it. Maybe or totally nearly killed myself Um, but yeah, you know, I there's a good chance I would check that out because that sounds pretty good in terms of getting me back on track for doing the the last of us video Of which I've already done a lot of collecting work for so I'd rather have Good reason to get me back in maybe played again and go through that DLC As horrifying as it sounds um I also hate the implied politics of wonder vision, but i'm well aware that it's subjective as fairy hack position The implied politics why you're not sure what that's referring to i'm not sure what they're referring to There might be some throwaway lines that say some stuff here and there. I just not yeah, I didn't notice it Yeah, I'm I'm I'm kind of blank with that one Um bone milk lovely People keep asking who tonald is Uh, who are these weirdos and why do they not invest in rocks as real estate? What? Like the flintstones Yeah, I'm trying to think what's what's what's rocks the connection of rocks with um The tonald Well, by the way, there's plenty of tonald's history all the way through e-fab and they they are kind of Erotics for not knowing it and I really did fuck that up Uh lord tonald of the loke embraced the long in his vid true Looks to be quite the adventure bring on the blasted pipeman to converse with tone That would be quite um quite something I'd say Uh, hey, I was going to recommend even gellion. Where's the even gellion? I think it's even gellion Um, however, I doubt that you guys would like it due to it having some tropes that you don't like example being sundae sundae re sundae That sounds pronounce sundae sundae re Uh, but I would still recommend it to people Uh in part because eve is like my is my buffy muesli All right Fair enough Fringy you beautiful bitch. I have a question for you. Do you subscribe to the kortana logic plague theory? Or do you think 343 aren't that smart? Let me look that up. I'm pretty sure I've heard of it, but I can't remember what it is kortana What was it called again logic plague theory logic plague theory and the next subject says 343 aren't that smart Ah okay, so Jesus all right, so the logic plague um I this is a post from Halo waypoint I and a lot of other people in the halo fandom have formed the theory that in halo five kortana has the logic plague And that the flood drives her actions throughout said game During the events of halo two in the first half of halo three Kortana was engaged with a month in a month long conversation with the current grave mine at the time This should be more than enough time for the grave mine. So the big I'm going to have to poke a big hole in that theory Um, kortana is digital. So I don't understand how exactly the flood could infect her How how does that make sense with the usb? We're someone saying oh the same thing happened in mendicant bias. It's like, okay No, we're leaning into like external stuff now. All right. I want to focus just on the games um I is that That man that is uh, that is um big ol. Hmm right there Also, if she was infected why did she help Sheaf activate the halo and then fucking kill all the flood at the end of halo three Oh the flood can affect All right, whatever Ringing is not a problem as far as I'm concerned. Yeah Bungie cannon. I disagree with that cannon I guess Well, I don't know um Rags, I got a recommendation. Do the creation adventure team for efap movies Creation adventure team. Let me take a look. No idea what that is Oh The creation adventure team Jurassic arc mystery. Oh, this is one of those young earth creationism Weird kids things. I would love to watch this these fact like christian like 90s I know this is 2003, but it's it's going to be in the same style But like 90s christian propaganda for kids fascinates me It like it is It is super engaging to watch it because it's so bizarre and crazy how they try and Get all these jesus messages into all kinds of different things I would love to watch the creation adventure team Jurassic arc mystery And halo two didn't the grey man corrupt the guilty spark. No as soon as chief got there He asked him to activate the ring Like he couldn't fly around freely, but he still wanted to do that Now i'm just reading up on it on the wiki. It's apparently a term for techniques used by the flood to attack and subvert intelligences through non-biological means the information equivalent of the parasite It can I I I don't Induced logic plague is often equated with the condition of rampancy. Oh, so then it doesn't even make any sense because she got rampant later on anyway I don't I guess my question is how exactly does like of a thing that is biological Infect a non-biological thing I just find that confusing Keep social distancing Give me spit Well, the flood this is the this is the imdb for the movie A video that says that dinosaurs lived with humans and were on Noah's ark. It is aimed toward kids That's it. That is so sterile like It's rated 1.9 out of 10. I'm I would love to watch this program. That sounds great. It does sound funny Would you like to know more? Die jigglypuff Come with me And you'll be in a what? What would you say are the objectively best and worst vehicles to exist as? Don't bless What a question Best and worst vehicles to exist as Best and worst so I would put in terms of worst. I would probably put um Trains are pretty bad because they are restricted to train tracks I agree. Um, I would also say that bumper cars are up there as well Because they're going to be confined to the bumper car rink and there might be a painful existence Yeah, I getting bumped around or maybe it's like orgasmic to them. I don't know I don't know the equivalent because that's just what you know, they're just built for it It's like fulfilling their purpose or something by that logic humans shouldn't be able to put a virus on the computer So what virus that is on a computer is not like a viral infection Oh That was kind of delay No, you you we were on to the when you get like an std pop it on to a usb that you put it in that's how USB std. Yeah, also people saying I know the graveminder was penned a tangent Yeah, penned a tangent says we got to activate this ring as soon as he sees chief So I don't know. I don't know I don't know Anyway back to bumper cars. Yeah, so trains are really bad. Yeah, anything that's confined to a very specific track um So that would Even certain kinds of boats would be better because if they can access the ocean They have a lot more options. Um Same thing with a boat that's typically on a lake However boats can be transported So assuming that you were like you were able to communicate with people you could request that you'd be Move someplace else. I don't know. Um, but if you just had to exist as that vehicle Yeah trains lake boats would be bad. Um, so but some of the better ones the most Movement and the most ability to move without being fueled by humans You know what I mean? Well, I assume you would get fuel like you could just like exist Yeah, I suppose what wouldn't be included in this is an assumption of like poor Upkeeping because the idea is strictly about the vehicle itself, right? Like all of these scenarios include you are kept At a good quality from the human that may or may not need to provide it Yeah, um, so maybe cars or planes Someone one that would be interesting Would be one of those deep sea submersibles with the arms and shit on it You could go all the way to the bottom You could go all the way to the top all of the ocean is yours to explore. I wonder if travel around in I guess this isn't quite applicable yet But like it'd be cool to be a spaceship once we crack actually exploring new planets and stuff Yeah, because a spaceship by itself We're boring right now. I'd say the views. Yeah, the views cool for a while and then you probably get sick of it You want to do stuff and you know things I want to be a submarine man by James Cameron um Let me see Another good option might be Like I would want a vehicle that does like a cool job like maybe a construction vehicle That like a backhoe that could dig things and pat things down and carry stuff around and make big holes and big piles of dirt And who is like building buildings and doing stuff If we can find a way around this, let's just have like an android, but we put wheels on it. I'm like it's a vehicle No, I'm the android. Yes Yeah, I mean if I'm not really, you know, really really niche vehicles like the thing that they used to shuttle the space Like uh spaceships to the launch pad, you know that giant thing. That'd be horrific launch pad with wheels That'd be that'd be terrible Because all your existence is going from this point to that point carrying this big ass fucking shuttle back and forth Back and forth over an over an hour Good honest. I don't know. It's good honest work, but it'd be boring the shit out of me Um, and if you were a soldier that mean you'd start killing people Yeah, um I mean, I think it's a decent enough. I think it's a decent enough answer You know, I think we got some good ones in there some bad ones in there. I think they What about a bicycle? Like do you have any autonomy without someone riding you? Oh, because you're human powered. Oh, I don't know I don't know if I'd consider a bicycle an option Hey, bring it. Is it possible for me to win this fight with just shooting my gun? Um, you'd still have to eventually kick him Let's see Let's continue answering these or are you are you fox or falco? He's falco. Oh, maybe falcos knocks him back a little bit, right? Or is it the same amount regardless of damage? He'll keep grabbing onto the Oh, no, he's coming toward me. No, he's going back. The fuck is he doing? Allegedly? Oh, what is he doing? This ai is having a lot of trouble Isn't it what's up and now it's turning around. What's what is going on? Uh cover Shapiro films that are actually conservative Why would I want to do that? I I don't care No, thanks. I don't yeah, um, yeah, I don't care Uh camera is his covering his star wars videos was fascinating. I enjoyed that immensely Uh camera spec EFAP's quest to know what they are talking about Oh, yeah the topic comes up. We like to try and see if there's some stuff to find out about it if we don't know Yeah, oh no a pokeball not for you Bring you put a bet on how much his health will be at when he dies Um, I don't think it will if you just keep shooting at him All right, that's your bet then so if he's a pessimist. Yeah, if anything else right rags put a bet on the health 569 remember this includes random. I am spawning that fucking kill him I write like a bomb I guess But a bomb could kill you before it kills him and if I say nothing then honor He's getting spookily close to me Um, I agree with your criticism of Wanda vision still don't think it's bad though But I think you should talk with Friday night tights because they just say macomics and it sucks I thought they liked it. I thought they did too last I heard they liked it. Anyway, I don't know. Yeah, I mean maybe as of now No, perhaps. Um, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't call the show bad yet. Um, yeah I wouldn't call it good yet though. It started good. The first two episodes were good. The third was fine the fourth and fifth were like, oh But the more that we've leaned into the actual plot the more it's kind of been concerning I recently watched the Star Wars prequels and overall they're better than the sequels, but everyone is wrong. They're terrible movies Hey, not everyone Yeah, they are terrible though people need to get over it and if I had a ranking it would be Three being the best and two being the worst I think we said that one was the worst, right? Yeah, we said one was the worst barely barely. Yeah, it was really bad But I think two is slightly better But three was definitely the best Absolutely Um, J. J. J could take down towers or film franchises rags Wait, JJ could be a just as JJ could take down towers or film franchises rags Oh, my goodness gracious is he implying that JJ is responsible for 9 11 I can't imagine any other interpretation of that statement. Oh my god Um opinion on pitch black and chronicles of Riddick They're fun I haven't seen any just I remember really liking pitch black Uh-oh, yeah, I like pitch black and I like chronicles of Riddick too, but it's probably not good. It's just fun to watch Dude the intensity of that drama. I thought he was gonna die, but then I was the one who died Oh, so I win I don't think you win. I don't think you win. No, I said that it would never happen Yeah, I don't think you went and it didn't happen. So I win I mean, I don't know a best you can call out by technicality if you didn't predict shit Dude, I even mentioned like no, you'll think about how I'd never be able to kill him I don't know about that Like I was about to but then I got incredibly unlucky. It's not even fair because Fringy lives in australia before he's always close to death So he knows the subject better than most. He's an expert More also, I don't know like you're you're ahead in time. So I don't know if predictions really count. It's true Yeah, look at all the people already said that I'm right Oh, so you're appealing to popularity now. Are you wow? I guess you learned like tlj, huh? I'm just smelling rags costume What costume I don't wear a costume. I don't wear anything Yeah, like these these shades they're an accessory. They're not even clothes Doge coin is skyrocketing right now and I'm feeling generous also high rags Hey, good luck. I hope you make many doge dollars doge coin track. Uh, let's did did elon tweet. Is that what happened? He has tweeted a few things. Yeah Oh, hello, let's have a look at this then. Oh, yeah, it reached an old time high Recently Well, no, you're fucking kidding me, right? I mean if we go by in the last week Apparently, yeah on well, uh It hasn't gone as high as it had before Like I think the old I'm yes the old time high was above where it is right now. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're right Um, but still that's it's pretty high up right now. It's the year of the doge It is it is pretty high up now. That's uh, that's fantastic. That's fantastic You bet you bet indeed that it would be I got Um, this is a video on why the starship troopers federation is too stupid to exist Oh There's also that video about how the starship troopers were like bad inventory. I think right. What was it when we covered? I kind of remember it was like the top 10 worst infantry or something like that Well top 10 reasons they're talking about the movie of the book Oh, yeah top 10 reasons why like they suck That was when we had arch and sargon on yeah, I think we got to get that that pair on again I think it was strictly about the movie starship troopers. Yeah, I can remember if they brought in the book at all um I don't think so. I think it was just the movie. I just one of the most interesting adaptation Subjects ever, you know most like whether the adaptation even gets the general point of the book, right? Yeah, well, I mean That's the thing it's a fucking endless discussion on that one because the meme is always Wow, you didn't even understand the point of starship troopers and the response is wow You didn't even you just interpreted the point because you saw the black coats That was enough for you like it's you saw trench coats and boots So you instantly assumed it was a film about fascism Even though the society that they live in is unironically fucking great Dude the smug levels and the people who are like it's a nazi film Like it's insane. They're just like you couldn't even tell it's like do you really think that there's been no understanding of that discourse That's like the main discourse for that movie Mm-hmm We'll eat a lot of stuff to say Yeah Will er ever return I would I would imagine so Also find the right topic for the lad Oh, here we kill themselves. Well, yeah, what are you gonna do? Yeah Uh The meme repository did a good job with the man of steel mini good rat. Um, it was a man of steel movie Actually So get your facts spoiled calling these minis. Yeah. It was a chonker. Yeah That was three hours It will return But not before batwoman at this point because we're gonna hang on to it to make sure copyrights and fuck it over again I don't know if you guys remember but um back in the day the doom video with the rock That one like the 11th version stayed up So and that was like the sixth version that went public. I'm trying to avoid repeating that Because of course a company desperately wanted to claim credit for that abomination And you're in a position where it's like could you tell me where i'm fucking up the copyright youtube and it's like, yeah, I will At some point I'm so lighter. Yeah, thanks I'll get back to you on that one. Um Yeah, the other thing it's uh top notch on the the efat mini movie editors will love them Can't wait to provide them more content such as batwoman only the best Uh Thoughts on filmmaker neil breen Um some some of the best legend generation has to offer it today and or two So many laptops So much tuna I like when he spills I've uncovered more corruption than any person ever The guy like I resigned from my position on the bank and then This movie is nothing but stuff killing themselves just in public One of them fucking hangs himself and slashes his wrist I Think I think it's safe to say we're pro neil breen. Yes here on this podcast. What was uh, why why have you done this? Why? Oh, wait, no, I can't I can't believe you've committed suicide. Why why did you What do you want how can I help you? He's just he commands words with such I don't understand what you mean You killed him the nice staring you killed him. No dad. This was all you you did it Fuck What a fucking legend a legend among men I hope that one day I could be just half the man that neil breen half as talented as neil breen If I if I die half as talented as he is I I will have succeeded There was the other movies as well because there were three of them There was a the last one faithful findings and then there was oh, that's what I am here dot dot dot now I am here Let's see now That's the kind of name that just sort of you just want to see what it's about right just it's really well named Oh They should make a um An app to talk about how to name things best and then shorten those into recommendations from those things There's a huge market here for summarizing things God, I'm just now trying to remember. What was uh, what was some of the other funny things from uh from those movies? Just Uh, I wasn't oh, that's right the second one. I am here now He was like techno jesus. He'd like he'd put out his arms and they were like ram. There's ram things on his wrist Like he's a computer or something. Why wouldn't they be he thinks he thinks very highly of himself As he should The very lacking that well no actually I was about to say it was lacking in subtlety when it comes to social commentary But I mean there's nothing more subtle than I'm sorry guys I have to fire you the big lobbyists and corporations have taken too much power and we can't compete I don't know about exactly the life. It's it is such a A a tour de blunt That is so very it's it's so It's so just insistingly powerful in its Messages It is his his theme is greater than subtlety could ever try our best to to to do like a And a sustainable energy grid, but the big business Damn it big business sometimes she's a skull sometimes Yeah I've killed 300 million humans this day In other words, I have destroyed them all There's a guy in a wheelchair who bumps into this guy And then he pushes over the wheelchair of the New breed comes up to him puts and he's like that's just not right the guy starts bleeding out his eyes Isn't that a moral night out? You can see the tag on the outside I love the freezing time, but they're just people standing frozen because I don't have the money to actually have people freeze To stop the frame Yeah Oh, and and what was the line the guy in the wheelchair is like that kimo's kicking my ass I just wanted to see this sign one last time before I die I'm telling me his his the thematic elements of anneal brine production transcend subtlety Oh, hey guys, been a big fan for a while. I appreciate the work you guys put out And I tell you watching Superman 78 would be such a treat recently watched it and still think it's strong. Thanks for the work Oh Yeah, we watched it. Um, not that long ago, right like half a year. Maybe like I remember anymore Type is the other thing. Yeah, it's not Uh What is the lamest thing in star wars other than Mandalorian? So me it would be the yuzang vong I don't know anything about them other than their edgy I would say I'd probably say stormtroopers Yeah, are the lamest thing because one they're they're practically ubiquitous and they're just fucking worthless Yeah, they've really cranked that so hard at this point. It's ridiculous. Mando season three is going to keep on doing it probably What else can we kill? You know fodder of the fucking universe Um, I mean Jedi's are still kind of cool, right guys We're I mean No It would be if they were done well They were all right. Like I was never like super into Jedi or super cool myself. Like they were nifty, but I don't know I'd rather be just like a guy Trying to make his way into galaxy, but you know Yeah Just like you're some like intergalactic um, you know transportation You know agent or you have to do you know just like what would uh What would a job like it's kind of an equivalent to ours be like in the star wars universe? And how would you deal with the events of galactic unrest? In your profession or in your life. What would happen? They don't need to be like the most important person in the goddamn universe Like I want to show about I want to show about a beat cop in croissant That could be cool. I feel like how are you not choosing fake Skywalker? I thought the the nature of the question was more so like concepts or categories rather than like individual skywalker is a concept now True. It can be exploited for Yeah, monetary gain for money Drink a release. I want to like yeah, like a repo man a tattooing repo man Who has to deal with so much shit to just get stuff back for people He he directly works for like job of the hut or something like that And he's like a hardcore repo man and he gets some dangerous jobs and stuff. He's got to do crazy shit You guys ever see repo man The david never heard good things I don't know if it's any good, but I just remember watching it jude lore and uh horse whittaker Oh, no, I never saw that it's a cult classic kind of movie, right? Oh, I was I thought you were referring to repo jake Not quite, but yeah The idea is like it's not too distant future where you can get body parts In you like, you know cyborg style whatever But if you don't pay them back, they'll send repo man after you that like Drug and cut you open and take the organ back Oh That ain't so nice the thing about I just remember thinking about like oh, I should rewatch that sometime But I already thought about like it can't possibly work that way. Can it like There's an idea there Well, where once you before they become like super consumer grade where everyone can buy prosthetics They're gonna be at that stage where they're Maybe maybe a little bit too expensive or at least someone's will be someone's will be easy like maybe Like maybe some organs will be super easy But like hands and arms and eyeballs things that are really Sensitive and need good coordination. Maybe those are a bit too expensive for the normal person So they they pay for them in installments Right, and if they don't keep up their installments, you know, like what are the laws going to be about? Well, I mean you're renting it technically it belongs to the bank So if the Merchant Venice kind of isn't it like how do we get it? You know, how do they get it back? How do you know that that uh, how does this happen? But you know, there's an interesting story to explore there an idea. They gave me the same fight. All right, make it back Fringy What about what about this time? Man, I don't know 500 Oh, so he will die it'll be at 500 Well last time I did my thing right You said it was bullshit. So I guess I gotta play by your rules if you win this one I will give you a retroactive win I I think Fringy you'll double or nothing Fringy. That's my bet I'm excited then. What does it mean to be exactly 500 or like give or take 50? No, exactly Wow, I will allow a give or take of 100 Okay Um, yeah, a lot of people saying those repo men is the cult classic repo man is the one they made to keep the license All right, and that's the one I've seen I haven't seen the Why don't they make repo people? Yeah, repo people. I mean why watch either when you can just watch repo j can you watch g nagarty? Dan hagerty What did I say Pat Conroy? You said gene hager. You said you said gene hager. You did not say Pat Conroy Dan dan hagerty. Yeah, Dan hagerty. Yeah, that's why I said the whole time. He was the narrator for the christmas light Um, Steve shy has made a video about how republicans can't like star track I know I'm late bringing it up, but you're late watching star track also high rag Hi, that sounds like a stoop. That sounds like stupid bullshit. Steve shives would say. Yeah That's in character. Steve shives is a very consistently I can't help but bring up every time he comes up that his wife gilfred whatever called him like he's probably sacks Is to prefer an angel of a buffy It's fun because loads of people that I've watched the show with prefer angel to buffy the characters anyway Which it's uh, it makes a lot of sense angels fucking great. Yeah, I don't want to have to choose between them. I understand Uh Drinker released a video on the hobbit and it summarizes most of the issues really well excellent Anyone heard that daisy ridley has quit social media? How long do you think before the law because daisy was bullied? Also her new movie looks crud Um Well at this point though, the funny thing is which side is like I don't even know the pro or anti-sequel people could it could be Either depends on what she said She was sick of she was sick of crazy Women asking her what it was like to kiss adam driver remember the um when mark hamill Tweet out the picture of lando. Well all of them together basically, right? But like is it an artwork? And he got like shat on by sequel fans like you're perpetuating a trade Hi, I'll know for any run that time Yeah Guess I was wrong. Maybe who knows. Oh, we got a pokemon. Uh-oh I don't know. What's what does this mean if I well, I'm allowed to move that was never in the rules Ranks have you or would you like to read from your book of fun facts? That's a good. Thank you for reminding me I totally forgot. I need to get myself a fact picked out here Grab my book Yep. I'm like a little shelf of books. It's lovely. Oh, I lost all right. Oh, right No, let's see Wait, I bet bring you would be wrong. So I went Nice A chef's uh a chef's hat is tall and balloons at the top So as to counteract the intense heat in the kitchen The unique shape allows air to circulate around the scalp keeping the head cool. Wow And it actually is a fun fact. Yeah, I never wondered why the hats were that way, but I feel like I should have Yeah, I figured there's there's god. There's a reason for everything. Maybe it's ceremonial practical traditional. Who knows That is a practically designed hat, but it just became a symbol of yeah, yeah, it's practically designed Um, that's that's very fun so much fun Get one through here Let's see He's on 750 health Yeah, like I now think it's gonna go up to 999, you know repeating We're just waiting for the right item spawn So banks like picky banks are commonly shaped like pigs because in the 18th century Frugal people saved their money in earthenware jars made of a dense orange clay known as pig py gg Wow Yeah, oh Do a last one here Three threes the amount of it's I'm gonna give you the what was it the the bitcoin. What is it the bit tits? The bit what's the website? Blink blink blink blink snap version of information Yeah So the dollar sign is a combination of the letters p and s p s being the abbreviation for pesos the principal coin in circulation in the united states until 1794 When we began marketing our own dollars Wow I didn't know that the pesos was the most commonly used currency No, I didn't That is so Goddamn fun. That's the funnest fact That actually does make sense. So like as soon as you think about it Yeah, so um, and also I have requests for the bible verse of the day So, oh, all right. Here we go. I've been waiting for that verse of the day Here we go. I always go to verse of the day.com keeping it simple all right So this is uh first john 4 12 No one has ever seen god But if we love one another god lives in us and his love is made complete in us Oh, okay. That's cute. I agree. That is cute Have you ever seen attack on titan if not the final season's coming out this year? And it's been amazing as far as I can tell And I like some of the storytelling in it. You'd like some of the storytelling Oh I have not I I only saw the first couple episodes And then I stopped I uh, I think I only have a soul episode one and I don't remember Other than this guy who eats somebody Because he never read any of the cool stuff like about like torture and slavery and stoning and I mean it'll come up eventually right on verse of the day Yeah, eventually. Yeah Fuck you jigglypuff I should totally have killed you. It would have been epic. Okay Uh new predator kills old one you guys cry too All right in in the in predators the predator. Yeah, I loved it when the giant cgi monstrosity Ripped the head off the classic predator prosthetic outfit. That was real cool You're a relic from a deleted timeline Fucking hell which is exactly what jettison's actually turned into Well, yeah, it is a relic from a deleted timeline I was gonna be fun to eventually cover that film because I do want to at some point It's just a real like this fucking light is aged. Wonderful. That's I was meant to be part of a trilogy, wasn't it? Oh, yeah, they both were because that's yeah, just how things are made now You can't just make one film and then wait and see how it goes. It's got to be the first part One of the things that was neat about invisible man. Like I don't think the movie was great in any sense of the word Barely even like there's lots of problems is my point. But um The fact that they were like approached for a sequel and they're like, no, it's just the one movie by Oh, they were gonna do a sequel of that. No, well the studio wanted them to but they were like, no Oh Yeah, like, I don't know. Yeah, that was a great place to end it I Was it would be we follow the invisible woman killing rat like the best movies of 2020 underwater and the invisible Man these two movies you never expect That bad boys for life Bad boys for life was Not a better than I would Bad boys, bad boys. I never saw it. I just heard it was bad Yeah, I don't know. It's got some charm. It's not good by any means, but If it's on par with the second one, I'd be fine with it. That one makes me laugh a lot I wouldn't mind if I movies for that film I only ever watched it because my girlfriend was a PA in the art department on that Oh, me all I remember from uh bad boys to a shit just got real There's loads of good bits in that like when the rats fucking killed me It just got real There's a real missed opportunity there because bad boys for life, but it's bad boys three Bad boys three life and then bad boys four life. That would have been the way to do it Bad boys three life Um Wonderfringie callel no I guess yeah, yeah, that that does all makes it they didn't spell no the no way though Kind of offended to be honest with you, but I Know If that movie Superman four quests for peace do it could do one day. Yeah Opinions of the boat and especially oh, hello rags. Oh, hi Wait opinions are bad now better bought it. Yeah, I guess so I agree. Fuck opinions. I need to rename my channel Now yours are okay because they're capital Opinions that's different Okay Nor I don't remember the red one. Oh you intentionally called it a red one rather than the red sun. I see Oh That was just This leaning right. Yeah, that was unnecessarily confusing and wasting our time I don't know why you did that As a big fan of the sniderverse I'm interested to catch the first part of this stream to see what you guys have to say and hopefully for once hear objective criticisms I've yet to hear any About wait about what man of steel. I guess Are you shaming me? That's what I mean Man of steel is shit Like man of steel is pathetic Yeah, like you need to get like probably help The sniderverse as a whole is pathetic. It's really really bad I wish it wasn't because I think DC is pretty cool But yeah, I want to be good Nothing ain't Like batman. He's pretty cool. He's a bat But no, yeah He had to be old moody That's I guess everybody is that at the sniderverse. Everyone's old. Someone asked is that a copy faster? At this point it could be I'm look that guy. He might even be in the chat right now I I hope you enjoy our coverage if you find it to be too Reprehensibly evil toward the sniderverse. It might be too late for you and I'm sorry about that Yeah, man, if we couldn't pull you out, it's too late In all seriousness, I can kind of understand why people enjoy the uh the dceu, but holy fuck I don't see how you wouldn't be like. Yeah, okay. This is pretty shit though But hey, we got plenty of time to cover more and more of the movies in there It'd be fun to do so Um, I was watching a foot fetish porn and didn't get the appeal But after a second viewing I started to see it and realized I started off on the wrong foot Oh Yeah, I think that even there's a lot of porn out there that's It's just like It's just like mass produced and there's it just doesn't have any heart to it But I always know that with foot fetish stuff. It's always They always put the effort in with the foot fetish stuff I want to make sure that their customers get what they're after Yes All right then Blink tits we summarize the synopses Well, that'll be useful. Yeah The singularity was only sucking up krypton materials such as the ships and the stuff affected by the machine Also, why it affected soups but not lois Okay, the singularity was only sucking up krypton materials. No No, no, it's just wrong It's just sucking up krypton material. How does that fucking work? It's a semi permeable black hole. Let's fucking do it But then they they add with saying also why it affects soups, but not lois Why does it affect the fucking cars? And all the other people who get like lifted up in this ladder down. You gotta argue that in human cars Also, how does that make any sense? It's a phantom drive black hole that only affects krypton stuff What? So why but if they're going to a new world that doesn't have any krypton stuff on it to terraform it Then what does it do? It just sits there and it just sits there and goes This black hole has a preference Hahaha Yeah, uh, boo Um As if someone who reads books will pay for blinkest. That's what I mean. I don't even know how they would have customers. I really don't I think anyone who reads books would find blinkest insulting as a concept Yeah The power of reading in modern society shouldn't be underestimated It's estimated that reading two to four books on the basics of a subject makes you more educated on said subject than 80% of the population Sure, I I would absolutely believe that reading two to four books. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the whole thing summary's out Because I think the issue with blink to quiz or quest or whatever is that it like if if you read You can't if you just skim over Things lightly and read the bullet points in it in 10 minutes How much of that is actually gonna stick is probably approaching zero Especially if you're just going if you're just shotgunning different things Yeah, like maybe if you read if you did a bunch of the Like reading a full book and taking the time and giving it, you know the time it needs to Get absorbed by your brain. That probably does a whole bunch Like I like I would recommend the great courses plus That that would be my counter recommendation. That's it's fucking baller sauce Yeah, what if there was an app that like added so you could read a book and then it would have links to anything The books with referencing and talking about that leads you to other books that have more insight On the particular topic that may have been gone over quickly or something then again, that just sounds like wikipedia No, that does sound interesting now, you know, you read this you might also Yeah, the most standard algorithmic, but it's actually Curating what you might like based on that that could be interesting I'm referring to the pansexual part. It's unoriginal. Oh in relation to what ristuckin said to be interesting um Yeah, isn't well, that's that's not the interesting part of his video I was gonna say I don't give a shit if he's growing up He's not fucking anybody Wow rags, you think he's that uninteresting if he really wants to be a hollywood director Then maybe I don't want to know about his sexual habits. I don't fucking I just don't care, you know I don't give a shit if you want to fuck your I'm coming out as pansexual. It's like that is the least interesting part of that video for sure Uh, hello my fellow Aussie man moopa and of course hello rags Hi It says wait for response in brackets. Keep up a good job. You're doing the dawn's work Yes, sir Don't bless don't bless you Uh My jokes get ruined a lot lol my joke was a variation of people living under rocks I guess that means it was a terrible one. Oh that was to do with the these people You know the thing about rocks that I misunderstood to do with the dawn I guess It was it was trying to make a joke about how people must be living under a rock to not understand dawn memes No references. Oh my god Luigi kick my ass I kind of feel Feel kind of good about Luigi killing me. Whenever it's Luigi's like you end it buddy You end it. I hate the argument X was bad because it was forgettable I've heard boss fight music I can't remember after the fight because I was focused on the fight itself then listen to it and playthroughs Then I'm more relaxed and I love it thoughts Yeah, I mean yeah music is a tough one. I don't remember most music I hear in movies. I just can't Hum it back It's really tough because oftentimes you're focused on different things and it's part of an overall experience And oftentimes the music is not meant to be distracting from what's happening in the screen So when it comes to music, you know, that's a different thing But is he talking about just in general something is general use of someone saying Fuck that movie is so forgettable like Thor 2 I wouldn't so if we did an e-fap on Thor 2 I would not allow us to stop at saying it's forgettable. I'd be like nope. We gotta do better than that Yeah Like I think Dr. Sleep is one of the most forgettable movies in the past 10 years But that's not because like that I wouldn't stop there. I think the movie's just not You know what? I mean, but it's not so bad that people will remember it for being bad It's just right in the middle of the valley between so bad. It's bad and so good. It's good Yeah, there's usually just multi and this by the way applies to when someone you say something like Oh, I fucking love that thing. It was amazing or kind of boring. So it usually is leading into okay, so the why Yeah, the why is you know the actual critique itself Where we'll say sometimes people's music can be way better than their character like A relevant upcoming example would be Wonder Woman's theme. We just fucking amazing Another good example would be that woman If he was so much better Yeah, the Wonder Woman theme is really cool. I don't think it fits her character though I something about it. It just doesn't feel like it's in the right. Oh, yeah, it doesn't feel anything really like her It's just it's just a boppin tune. Yeah. It's like it feels action-y like maybe a cyborg could match it I don't know anyone else. I don't know because nothing about it says greek demigod lady To me. Um, I don't know what it is. Like, you know, like the all the soundtrack for Man of Steel I feel like it suits well enough. It actually is like I think we said is like it's really trying to save that movie Like the soundtrack is death. Yeah, it's doing just fine. Just fine. Maybe Han's new He's like, oh god And he had to do his hardest to save it If I can rescue this movie it won't he did an Adam He did an admirable job admirable job considering that music can't save a bad movie. He tried his damage. He really did try Yeah, the music and that's good I give it a thumb up and maybe possibly another thumb I mean, you're not gonna be able to quite make that kind of music, but yeah close Oh, the Batwoman theme is so goddamn good. I love it. Like it's completely ironic love, but The best kind of love It's just so rhythmically simple and on the nose. It's great He did the amazing spider two ost in fitness So I've not listened to every song in that but I know that the parts that I find hilarious are for all williams's contributions I don't know I uh, I refrain from judging Hans on that one to a degree Now you guys should check out damn nations video on joker. It's an abortion It's been a while since we talked about joker in there Yeah, it has been a while. Um, I'll I'll have a look see there's a whole bunch of joker videos. We never got to cover but um Perhaps wonder about the patented nemesis system from middle earth games that was mentioned Neil brian efap movies with expert yms when I imagine if we were to cover neil brian It wouldn't be with the yms because he's seen all of them We probably like it would be cool if we could get him for like stuff. He hasn't seen I would imagine Um like extraterrestrial which is a film he had seen but he completely forgot For understandable reasons. Do you guys are ever seeing that film? I do. I do remember that. Yeah, that was that movie with something else um Man doom annihilation a classic That was one of the most gratuitous anal probe scenes I've ever seen. All right brain cell annihilation Rags, would you say that stormtroopers are like wet bread? No I think I think I can see how that would be applicable. They do seem to pop up along Oh, maybe I guess in that sense They shouldn't be but they are Uh efap movies pass through and twisted pear in one episode Yeah, we could do it. It could happen. No denying the the potential No, no Friday night tights do like Wanda vision I meant that it sucks that their only criticism is my comics or its woke and the mcu So I like hearing your thoughts on it. Well, I was gonna say That's what we do is talk about like Whether or not structurally it's functioning. I think their main goal is to talk about it relating to the comics It's supposed to be adapting and the industry surrounding it um So obviously if you didn't want to hear that perspective that would be What they were planning on. I don't know if they've talked about how much everything makes sense in it so far I haven't caught their discussions. All I thought was that they they liked it. Yeah, they probably like it more than us right now as far as I know Uh, watch the directors. I'd say so Watch the directors cut slash commentary on hillhouse um Buffy episode the body is a direct inspiration for episode six. Holy shit Please be true I would I could see the connections. I would hope is true I watched the extended Uh cuts of hillhouse. They didn't add a ton. It wasn't it wasn't huge transformation Check out the commentaries not that you'd have any reason to I didn't listen to the commentaries No, I just like I watched the extended edition where some of the episodes were closer to like an hour and a half long I might check that. I don't know that they've said that that's um I would like to hear that myself To make sure it is true Uh steve shives got divorced. I am stunned not Well, well Uh, have you guys seen the new qi show with steven fry? I haven't No, I haven't If it's any as thing as good as the original one then it's some good entertainment for everybody, hopefully When you guys are finished with batwoman season two, can you guys watch the cw elseworld's crossover? It's the first appearance of kate kane and i'm starting to miss ruby rose also high rags Hey, I mean we could We still have to see um It is our new movie. What's ruby? Oh, yeah backdoor door draft cab driver or something like that back Doors backcrack doorman doorman ruby rose doorman The do the doorman doorman starring Uh Yeah Uh ruby rose Yeah, it's pretty cool that we've got some ruby rose batwoman content that we still haven't actually seen yet So maybe we should pull that out when we're desperate and batwoman gets cancelled It'll it'll be like a solemn goodbye to obviously the best iteration of the character This new one is trying but she'll never be able to reach ruby rose levels um The younglings had their chance true I did it because he is call me superman Yeah, but the red sun already takes care of that and in a double meaning, you know Gosh Yes, I follow Okay, you say it's shit and I hope to see good reasoning for it, but so far none has made good evidence for it. Okay I think he's he's already been arguing in the chat about the whole like The cause would take it up because they were affected by the machine That lois wasn't because she wasn't affected by the machine, I guess This seems kind of self-fulfilling right like whatever was affected by the machine has taken up whatever wasn't wasn't like, okay Yeah Black holes man That's the thing with a movie like man of steel like people who want to say it's good can cite certain lines of dialogue and Totally contradict it You know like with the world building, you know the way they talk about how Oh, sometimes it's the sun that gives superman his powers and sometimes it's the atmosphere They can just cite one and pretend like oh, it's good. It makes sense. It's like well it contradicts itself What are you talking about? Does that there's a lot of that in this movie? Yeah Uh fringin mohler and you like rock last action hero has underrated rock music All right Yeah, yeah, all right We like I said last action here is probably gonna happen on e-fat movies eventually Also mohler when is the next meme fap? I made the doom the wolf one act one meme Uh No definitive timing for it just yet. We we shall have to find some slots Um, okay, I apologize. I should have spent five dollars thought harder Oh about the about the red sun thing. It's good that you've made all these clarifications excellent Uh, the hillhouse commentaries are on episodes one five six and ten So if you do get to see it you get to hear mike plan again talk about the ending Oh, I've got the um the blu-ray With the commentaries on them. So I I am very tempted to check it out now. Yes The ending sucks Yes, it does, but I'd be interested to hear the commentary on it Uh Last action hero e-fap is making me coom premature. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness gracious You you lock that down, ma'am Um, and yes with that that is the end of the super chats. I think Right to probably, uh, wrap up. So Oh my goodness Do you want to do want to miss the capital o opinions? Do you want to talk a bit about where people can find you and why someone would choose to do something like that? No, wow Subvenue my expectations bro Yeah, well, you know if you know my name you can search that name on youtube I'm reviewing devs, which is an awful sci-fi show. It's fun to talk about how awful that show is And uh, we got a video coming up about how lance a lot was actually midget. Good time. Come check it out Actually a midget. Oh my god Yeah, i'm gonna i'm gonna spam it at shad and force them to respond What would you say is the best video for them to start with? Hmm. Well, you've probably already seen the mpc reviews, uh, but if you haven't you should check those out They are a goofy fun time satirizing bad video essays and all that fun stuff It's not how you would have done that and also ended up on e-fap somehow. I don't see the connection there Making fun of video essayists. I don't know Well, um, mr. Fringold, what about you? um Crash for video coming to nearly finish with the scripting which means that editing will start soon And then that'll go up I've been streaming as well And twitch dubious sanity so go there usually seems like twice a week is now the The thing and uh, yeah, and then the fringy comic at some point So there are a few things do you have any idea on what you might do after the crash video? All right in terms of videos. I haven't thought that far ahead yet. Uh, somehow I'm sure Terrible person, but yes, subscribe We'll subscribe. However you want to look at it. We'll subscribe whichever word, you know, you prefer As for myself um Holy shit. I didn't realize how bad episode six of season two of the boys was It's like a holy mountain of horror in terms of just the amount of things to talk about that they got wrong It's possibly one of the worst episodes of tv like ever It's it's just the problems are immense And so i'm working through the boy season two still but um, obviously the the e-fap arc is currently involving the dce eu We're having lots of fun more shall happen. I am sure in relation to it And uh, you got batwoman and some other things coming along the way Rags anything you want to mention before we end? Nope, uh, I think that pretty much just covers it all for me. Um, just working away on my little thing It'll be out when it's out I don't want to rush it as you could probably guess. Just uh, really want this to be super good Uh, when it's out, I want it to really stand the test of time And stuff. Okie dokie. Thank you all for uh for hanging out with us for watching. Thanks to to ol mootlow He's he gone sleepy flooms now Um, and he'll probably stream tomorrow. He can maybe catch some of us there. That's at that point. I don't know Either way, uh, thank you all for the donations and memes. Like I said, we'll collect him all up I've got a mountain of them meme fab will happen As well as possibly more man of steel coverage We'll have to figure out how we're going to do that because Jesus christ, you know man of steel Oh, who even wants to talk about that movie? Nobody. That's who Thank you all for watching and good. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye everyone. Thanks for coming on over. Goodbye