 So just as far as introductions for anybody that is jumping on, so this is again our Monday Microsoft Community Office Hours, and it's the Ask Me Anything format. So we're going to sit here and chat until somebody has some questions. We're streaming in a couple of different places, which is why for those that will inevitably ask, and there's Mike, let me add Mike. So we'll have a few people jumping in on the panel throughout the next hour, but we're basically here just to answer any questions that you might have about Microsoft products and services, and in the absence of questions, we'll find a way to fill or dive. So being the latest to this, Mike, you're on the spot. You have to answer the first five questions. So how did I get that? Just lucky, I guess. So we're all set up, we're live streaming as I said in a couple of different places. Faisal says hello to everybody. So if you've got questions, we're live streaming in a couple of places on Facebook, so go ahead and type out your question, and we'll do our best to answer those. And I'll also be going through questions that have just been posted in the normal dialogue over on the Office 365 community on Facebook, and the recordings for these, if you've not seen one of these. So I am capturing both the morning and night, jamming them together into action-packed two-hour segments, and posting out on my blog, and I'll provide a couple of links here once we get going for the last couple of episodes, but you can go to buckleyplanet.com and you can find, and I've listed out with links, timestamps to each of the discussion areas, like the 15 and 20 different topics each week that we cover. We do duplicate some topics because we're doing this morning session, we do one in the evening, it'll be 6 p.m. Pacific, so we can try and hit H Pacific, and this one's really for the Americas and Europe and Africa, Middle East and Africa, so EMEA. EMEA. All right, so with that, and Mike, how was your weekend? Did you think exciting going on? No, actually, it was nice out here, actually. I mean, we're so used to this 40, 30, 40 degrees, and we finally got a day that was like 55, 60. So to us, that's like summer, like shorts and t-shirts. Yeah, we've had some similar, or it's been nice, but not like how was bragging about 90-degree weather, so. No, no, not even close. It's only spring, it's only spring. We've got another, at 96, we've got another 20 degrees to go yet. Gotta work yourself up, work your way up to that, so. I didn't get to go over between, Oh, I'm sorry. 110, 120 between when we get into mid-June. Yeah, I did get a question though over the weekend. Oh, okay. So, and I gotta ask an office person, right? Because I don't know the official answer to this. I mean, I looked it up, obviously, but I'd like to hear it from the office folks. What is the deal with OneNote 2016 and the OneNote Windows 10 app? That's the official question, what is the deal with? What is it? What's the deal with? It's a Seinfeldian question. And I gotta tell you, that was how it was praised to me because I'm like, well, you're telling me that you wanna share a notebook, but you're sharing it up in OneNote 2016 and that's supposed to be going away. So why are you doing this? And I'm like, ah, it's not going away. Well, they said it was going away. Yes, but it's not. What's the deal? It's not. It was. But it's not now. No? They had this wonderful vision that they were going to take OneNote and they were going to make it into a store app. And the store app was gonna get all the improvements and the embellishments and the new features and my cat just knocked something off the table on the floor. And that was the way things were going. And then they decided, no, well, that's probably not it, what we could do. So now it is the desktop, the main office, 2016, 19, whatever, 365, whatever you wanna call it, that is be embellished and improved and so forth. And the store app is basically just along the... So they're gonna continue to develop both? Yeah, they're going to develop both of them because they have an audience for both of them. So, so... So, in 2016, so that's where most of it, at least it is for the moment. That's where all the efforts being put. So, I have two comments on this. So, Mike, first off, can't a trillion dollar software company change its mind? Come on. This is 2020. No, the other thing is that I'm not surprised by the decision. I think there was some pushback on the app and some of its capabilities. There were some cool features in that. But it's been, historically, Microsoft has always done kind of competing overlapping products and which wins in the market. And so, while there's some short-term confusion around it, I mean, it's like when people get upset about a name change like the Office 365 to Microsoft 365. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I look at it and I'm just like, yeah, by the 20th time when that happens, why are you getting angry about something you know is gonna happen again? This is coming from a task worker, right? This is a person who doesn't know the ins and outs of Microsoft or anything like that. They just used to using Office. And I shared a notebook with them and they got confused because it came through and said it was a Office 365 notebook and they're like, I don't have that. I'm like, yeah, you do, it's just a notebook. And Windows 10 will open that up. I get where they were coming from. And the conversation actually evolved from a user group meeting. And the user group was talking about how they were going to post their videos on the web. And they were sharing this window notebook which kind of gave them all the links to these videos that they had. But they were like, well, we're not using the Azure or the Office 365 video service. And I said, are you talking about Stream? And they said, yeah, well, we just put them in SharePoint. But why can't we use Stream? And I said, I'm not really sure if that's actually going to be, I mean, it's kind of expensive, right? To put videos up there, number one. But number two, you can't really, it's kind of like SharePoint limitation. You can't really share those outside to the external world and just have anybody connect to them. Correct. Yeah, anonymous access is not yet. Yeah, they were looking for a solution to host their videos. And they were like, well, we just, we're a Microsoft group, so we'll just put them up there. Which is if you have a tenant and have people in there on the guest network and give them access so they can consume that, then it's, that's possible. So you can go and do that. What it is not as Stream is not a YouTube, a Microsoft version of YouTube. Yeah, that's what they were, they thought. I mean, that was their inclination is like, hey, I mean, why should we be using Google service? And we can use Microsoft service, so on and so forth. Those were my questions over the weekend during a user group meeting. Hey, let me ask, so it's good to hear, as I've not looked at it in a while, to look at if somebody sends the OneNote web app, they go and build something out in there and send that link. And if somebody doesn't have that installed and it opens up in their regular OneNote client, they have access to that, do they get an error message or does it open? Well, when I sent a one that came from 2016 to the native Windows 10 app, it came and said, she said a pop-up dialog came up and said, this note was from the Windows 10, or from the, 2017? No, it wasn't from 2016 and you have the OneNote from Microsoft Store installed. Would you like to install OneNote 2016? So it differentiated between the two just on a shared notebook. There might be, maybe I had something in that notebook that isn't available in, I don't know. Well, you know, it would be great if, well, one, I mean, that's something to go and look at to make sure that it works both ways. You have one installed and what the reaction is that it would be, I mean, I would hope that Microsoft, if they've decided to leave both in place that they've handled that and make it, you know, be able to open it in a way. And I wish they would do that with it just, it made me think of one of my biggest complaints about using Microsoft Teams is the, you know, all of the pop-ups that happen is like, do you want to open this? Is it, are you sure? Like I've got Teams open, I'm in this space and you're still prompting me to, where do you want to open it? Like, can't I somewhere go and add my default experience, open it this way every time, you know? Propile, some kind of profile setting. Yeah, it's, anyway. I get aggravated just because this morning I got another invitation to join another Microsoft team and this just happened like 10 minutes ago and I click on it and share it out. I have to change tenants, I have to log out, then I have to log in with a different ID and then I have to go in and I have four tenants to choose from, I have to make sure I'm in the right tenant in order for it doesn't pop up and tell me, oh, you need permission to join this team, you know, blah, blah, blah. That's a huge complaint from people in the community that because it'll, if you are open a meeting and you're in a different tenant, you've got guest access to that and that it reduces functionality, like you don't have the chat capability. It's like, well, why didn't I automatically open me in the right environment so that I have that capability for that meeting? Yeah, it's aggravating and I was on a call last week, late last week, where it was a team's call and actual, how to present, how to do live events in teams. It was done by Swedish Microsoft MVPs, I'm not really sure, it was crossed upon somewhere and our CPMs had distributed the link that we could join it. So they have like 240 some people on it, they were afraid there would be the 250 limits. But somebody on the call said, oh, they raised it to 300 now. I didn't know that. They said, oh yeah, now the limit's 300. Okay, maybe that's true, I don't know, but there was a lot of conversation and they were saying, oh no, that limitation about changing tenants is no longer exists, unless it depends on where the invitation was sent from. If the invitation was sent from a specific tenant, then yes, you have to be part of that tenant. If it was sent from an external service, then you don't. And I'm like, that's too confusing for people. It's interesting, all right. So we've got quite a few people watching on one of the two live streams. So is that one in showing? So about 12 and one and 18 and the other one. If you'd like to ask a question, we'll do our best to respond. And so ask away. Maybe we can get Christian to actually pick up a guitar and play for us. Yeah, no. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Come on, maybe a yoke. You got a ukulele? Come on. You know, I did. So what was it, fifth grade, sixth grade? For a year, I took banjo lessons. Ooh, Steve Martin, he's awesome. It's because I was a huge Steve Martin fan as a kid. Cheers. Yeah, I had the old, in fact, this goes back to the late 70s. We had a bunch of the, so we had the eight track player. My dad's Lincoln had an eight track and we had a little portable eight track player, but I had like comedy is not pretty and some of those classic albums. So my dad was a big fan of Steve Martin, George Carlin, Richard Pryor, just a bunch of those. So we had all of those eight tracks. Seven things you could say on TV or in a podcast. Yeah. And, oh, and there it is. And Tony wins the award for the first one today to ask the question of why we're using Zoom instead of using Teams. And Tony, bravo. Yeah, so sorry, not making fun of you, Tony. No, the reason why is because we're live streaming on Facebook and you can't do that with Teams. And if your response is, yes, you can live stream with Teams. The answer is no, you cannot live stream with Teams on social networks. So we take a third party solution. We're just cutting out the middle man, go with one solution we're doing. And Sean, I'm adding you. Stop your whining, stop your whining. Sean has joined the panel here. But anyway, that's why we're using Zoom. And yeah, it's the unfortunate side effect of Zoom on Teams is it says Zoom at broadcast there in the live stream. If we, I believe if we live stream to YouTube, then it does not have that blazing across the screen. But, yeah, anyway. All right, so. Oh, look who showed up. Oh, there you go. Good morning, sunshine. A little behind the eight ball today. The joke can start now. Chris, yeah. Start, oh my. We've already gotten two questions in. Just deploy it. That's right. There's no way to test. That's awesome. Can't be right. Is that a vendor shirt? No. Okay. It not. No, it's not, but it should be. Yeah, what's your vendor of choice for these fun t-shirts? So you just pick them up randomly from here and there? Actually, the company that I tend to go to the most often is called Quartee. It's over in the UK. The C-O-R-E-T, Quartee. No, let me pull up their link. And while you're, we're pulling that up, let me, I'll post out the link I mentioned earlier. So with the, so last week's recording, as well as all the topics covered, and you can actually search in the blog and you'll find this, because last week, this is episode six today, but we'll be pasted there and pasted at one other location. But you can go check out some of what we're covering in these discussions and jump to the conversation, or you could watch the entire two hours. That's always fun as well. Yeah, for the, for the glutton's for punishment out there. Quartee, okay, that's cool. Yeah, they tend to have, most of the t-shirts I get are from there, but I get the occasional one from a number of other places too. Think Geek has some good ones. Think Geek, yeah. Yeah, as I mentioned, I'm still waiting for that shipment from the $6 shirts, so you should see some fun ones coming up. Did that get waylaid, Christian? Yeah, I don't know. I got the email alert saying it, remember I told you like they're, they never did the follow up email, so I kind of freaked out, like where are my funny and interesting t-shirts? You know, it's my personality crutch. I mean, as you know, Sean. So they're coming direct to you by way of a lot of Vostok, Russia or something? They're coming from Florida. From Florida, that isn't that far. I ordered shirts and they're just screen printed shirts for my wife from other day, and they're coming all the way from China. For some reason, they don't tell you that, seven to 10 days shipping, and then all of a sudden I get a tracking thing saying, oh, it's gonna be 26 days to come from China. Here's the GPS tag for the boat. Yeah. All right. All right, so any product questions, anything you guys have run into the last week, any other questions that came up? But we had the one from Mike, Mike, only the four, actually Sean now has to fill in the other four. Whoever's last has to bring up the question. Now I was gonna go take a look and see if there were any questions that had been asked on the Office 365 community. I had one come up that was addressed by one of the relatively newer capabilities of document libraries and lists. It was, someone had a data field in a document library and it was not showing up correctly. The data was numeric. They wanted a simple straight integer, no modifying things like periods or commas or anything like that. So we fell back to a JSON formatter for the column field and that took care of it. But it seemed like a dark magic at the time. And thanks to Mark Anderson too for passing along a nice reference. I was looking for that online because anybody who's done, have any of you guys done development, C-sharp like development with string formatters? Anyone? No. Okay. Anyway, when you go to format a numeric, something like that, you can pass along a specially crafted text, but a text as a formatter for the string. And I was looking for that for these JSON formatters which the Office 365 lists and libraries, the in SharePoint have been set up to accept. And Microsoft has a decent reference for that. But unfortunately it wasn't, they include all of the esoteric stuff. Like here's how to conditionally format it in different colors or add graphics to the front of it. And I'm like, no, I just want to format the number. And Mark Anderson finally pointed me to what I wanted and was looking for. And it saved the day. So I'm going to pull that link up because that was very helpful. I do have a question. Yeah. About Office in general. I don't mean to cut you off, Sean, do you have? Oh, no, no, please. No, cut them off. Yeah. Like I was saying before, I mean, I use one note a lot. And it's because I used to use Evernote and obviously switched over to one note. But the question I have is around the theme, right? So everybody's on this dark theme kick. And I know that 365 finally came out with the ability to do the dark theme. Maybe like a year ago, a year and a half ago, something like that. Everybody was like, yay, this is cool. The thing is, is that whenever you copy and paste into one note and you're using the dark theme, all of your text is blacked out. So you have to actually go in and tell it to change the font to white. It uses it like a paper. I mean, it's like you're drawing on black paper. Yeah, so they just, they change the color of the background rather than change the overall. Exactly, it's not actually a theme change, or a UI change like Word. Because if you go into Word and you're in dark theme, if you type on the paper, it comes through the correct way. But one note doesn't do that. And I don't understand. And if you change, if you turn dark mode off on one note, it takes it off for all of the office apps. I mean, you can't do it individually. I mean, I'm not understanding the thinking behind that, but that's just me. Yeah, I mean, one, I would say that I would go have to investigate, see if there's discussion out on the related product team area, out on the tech community, see if there's anything out on user voice. You probably do a little investigation. I can't imagine that something like that has gone unnoticed and unlogged by others. Well, I did see it on an MS tech community, but the response was to turn off dark mode. Is this the desktop or the Windows 10 app? This is 2016. That's not a good thing to say. Doctor, it hurts when I do this. Well, it's like, then don't do this, you know. Well, I try to find that interesting because I've got 2016, I'm running it in dark mode and I just tried typing some final black text into Notepad, copied it and pasted it and it came out white. You see, and that's what I don't understand is that, I mean, I do it from a webpage, from something that may have formatting in it. Are you using it with the formatting? Are you pasting it just as text? That makes a difference. Okay, and that I haven't checked. I haven't tried, I can try that. Yeah, if you right click when you wanna paste something and just instead of doing it in a control V, do a right click to paste and you can paste with sort of the formatting. You can paste it with mixed formatting or you can paste it as plain text and pasting it. Yeah, if I do a merge formatting, okay, then it comes across. If I just do use source formatting, then yes, it turns all black. So you are right, but still, I think that's kind of a, I don't know, it doesn't work as easy as it should. Yeah, from that standpoint, there's a lot of cases we're pasting into Microsoft Word, in my case, because I use Word when I write my blog articles. And I do a lot of cutting pasting for things like URLs or tables or things like that. Something that I'm taking out of some other article that I'm going to include in mine. And just a simple control V to paste, always is paste with source formatting or paste with merge formatting. Usually it's paste with the source and what I always do is just paste the text without it. Paste the source, Luke. No, but the question is why do you have to have, in that regard, why do you have to have the complex pastes as default rather than the simple pastes and then you go select if you want the picture or you want to keep source or whatever, you see. That's my issue on the deal. Well, in hell, I'll ask this is that. I mean, I use the web clipper a lot because I'll be on a webpage and I'll just say, clip the one note. And when I do that, you have no choice of how it's pasted. And it comes through, it's dark. So it defaults to that. They railroad you. Tony makes a comment and I agree with this. I don't have any, Tony, I'm sorry, I don't have any additional information. I'll make sure that if you've got any live streams, I'm getting a little feedback here. Make sure any other pages are muted. But Tony mentions that something that bothers him in one note is you can't triple click, like you can't unword and select a word or sentence to edit or copy paste or move things around. And so I know that from a couple of the calls that I've been on, I mean, there's a move to have the consistent user experiences across those writing surfaces and some of that capability. I don't know specifically about this feature, but again, Tony, I mean, this is something I would suggest go in and check it out in user voice if there's not already something in there to post it. Because I mean, and then share that link out, like, hey, I just posted this in user voice, this request for this feature that we have similar editing capability in one note is we do in Word and then outline kind of what that is and get other people to vote it up. And you only need five, 10 people voting it up for Microsoft to go on there and respond. So whether it's in the roadmap or not, don't know, but I agree with you. Yeah, I mean, I live and breathe one note. I work in it every single day. Everything I write there, even if I, I'll usually go and dump content that I've written in one note into Word to do other formatting and just send it out as a doc or to create a PDF. So Christian, I just dropped not to curtail your bit there, but I just dropped that link for the column formatting operators into the Zoom chat. That's a little gold mine. So thank you so much, Mark Anderson. Yeah, let me put it to Mark Anderson. As I'm fond of showing him in prison. Mark Anderson, that's right. In my... So I'm posting that link in the multiple live streams. Coolio. Excellent. All right. Any other questions? Somebody, I see this conversation a lot that people asking and it was posted yesterday in the 365 community. Can anybody tell me how to use a conference video call with nine people on a screen at the same time? I don't know if there's any update on what's happening with teams. They are expanding that. It should, it's forthcoming. We're all waiting. Yeah, it's staging out, but I don't know anything other than that. So it's currently being rolled out? I don't know if it's currently, I can't speak to that specifically, but let me, let's go to roadmap. .office.com here. And while Sean's looking that up, again, anybody watching on one of the live stream feeds, if you have product questions, feel free to ask and we'll do our best to answer those. So I'm looking up. Any other questions, Hal or Mike? Anything else that you've run into? So, let's see here. Microsoft Teams multi-window chat is in development. That's different. That's different. Yeah, that's the ability to pop out chats. Oh, gotcha. Which is, you know, exciting as well. Can't wait for that. Gotcha. Let me refine my search here. Here's a kind of a generic question. How is, how is this whole home quarantine period? Is it changed? I mean, cause we all do a ton of stuff online, working online anyway. Has there been anything that's changed in the way that you've worked now that the rest of the world is also working from home? Has it impacted kind of your routines, the tools you use, how you're consuming information, collaborating with others? Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, I apologize. I had to switch my microphone. Can you, am I still good? Yeah. I can hear you, Mike. Good. Yeah, because what I found is, you know, been working in from home for, you know, a very long time. And I found that everything is going virtual in terms of, you used to have to drive places, go do things, go to user groups and things like that. I'm having problems with scheduling in terms of, you know, people are just, oh, we can just jump on a Zoom. And people that have never used Zoom before, they always wanted in-person stuff. It's just, to me, it's getting a little bit more difficult to manage. And you now have the ability to, you know, join things that you could not get to before. There's no way that I could join a user group from across the pond in, you know, Sweden or in the Netherlands and sit there for an hour and a half and watch someone talk about, you know, PowerShell and Windows Terminal and all that kind of fun stuff. So it's consuming more of my time. I'm having a little difficulty organizing and maintaining the level of, you know, time. I'm spending, I start out really early in the morning and I'm not getting done until late at night when I used to have some kind of a cutoff there and a little bit, a little bit more time to myself. That's why it's so important people, a lot of people have talked about setting barriers, working hours, you know, you've got to turn that off. I've commented, you know, multiple weeks here that it's a blessing that I have my dogs that will come and demand my attention. And now that I even mentioned that, so they'll, I think their ears will perk up and they'll come over thinking, oh, are we going for a, I can't even say the word, a W. Yeah. Just sounds like a awk. Did we say it? Everybody at once. So they're here. Because they're, I think they're recognizing that letter now. And so they're- Bone, bone, bone, treat. Yeah. So that's- That's hilarious. They're busy. They're seeing other people walking their dogs out the front window. So they're barking up- Just demanding their attention. Yeah. Yeah. But that, you know, breaks up my day going out and doing that and, but it's, but I think to your point, there's a, so I've had, so I use Calendly is one way that I try to manage that. There's the things that I schedule on my own with other people reaching out is I use Calendly. So we're not having to do that back and forth to figure out a time that works. Like it's baked in. It knows my schedule. So whatever works on your calendar. And I've had some people that have said, well, why don't you use FineTime? Well, FineTime or Microsoft and Calendly are very different applications. They do different things. And FineTime, like most things Microsoft does, works fantastic for the enterprise. Not so great when working with people outside of that. But like I just sent out an email to somebody and said, hey, look, I've got these two days, these different times, pick one. This is just one person that I know that I'm working with. I could have just sent the FineTime and it would have just automatically scheduled that meeting when you know the days and have some suggested times and are looking for like a voting system of five or six people where you basically go and say, look, I'm available at all eight times that you've suggested. Somebody else says I'm only available at these two. Well, then you can make a decision on whether you move forward and not enough people can get together. You don't have that quorum. But for when you're doing that one-on-one and you don't have a date set, that's why I pay for Calendly and it's just a fantastic tool for people outside of the organization. Yeah. Hey, Christian, I found that information. So Microsoft Teams increased in the number of simultaneous videos in Teams meetings. That's in development, worldwide standard multi-tenant general availability for education Microsoft Teams Office 365, May 2020. Yeah. They said H1, they said, you know, and I think the only caveat there is they had set that before all of this quarantine stuff is going on. So if they're able to hold to that, great. But obviously they've shifted a lot of resources over to the explosion of usage and they've had to prioritize a lot of those things. So I wouldn't be surprised if we see some features like that slip, you know, a little bit, but Tony makes a great comment too. And I think this is worth talking on this topic of having the number of people on there. Like we just had a family every Sunday evening, family members from across five or six states. So my wife's siblings and her parents who are living with us right now and some cousins and they're spread out and we use Zoom. And so to have everybody's face up there in these little windows is fantastic for that. But when is it enough enough? Is it, as Tony says, three by three, four by four, five by five, how big of a grid it's gonna be? How many gritty punches do you need? Right. And from a family situation, I don't, you know, that's really cool being able to see everybody. But when you get into a larger group meeting and you have 30 some people and 30 little screens with all kinds of different movement and I'm sorry, these crazy backgrounds, these people are adding to their stock, you know, it's just, it's kind of- It wears you out. My wife has commented that it wears you out. And actually, I believe she found a piece of research or was mentioned on NPR on something we were listening to the other night that it is, you know, visually and mentally taxing to try and keep track of all of this. So too much going on at once. You use that phrase, I'm just thinking, some people are thinking, well, these four guys are visually taxing. Any one of us on a given day, I think, would fit the bill, but- Oh, but I agree with you. I saw that there's a, in fact, I think from Zoom had an update or something as they were working on, there are many security issues and they had, they were used, there's some piece that had like 30 people on there and I think, well, what do you look at? What do you focus on? What do you concentrate on? Right, it's, I think it's just too much. I like the idea of what you can do with, with the team's live events where it has that, you know, a little more of a curated experience. I would love to be able to see that, even if whether it's, you know, four or nine, and I think nine is kind of the cap there. Maybe they're looking at doing 12, I'm not sure whatever Microsoft lands on there, but being able to then pin, you know, if you've got 50 or 100 people or a thousand people that are watching, but be able to, I guess for a live meeting, you'd only have 15 presenters, co-presenters. So that's a locked numbers, that's how many people you can have on screen. But in a team's meeting, if it's 12, for example, if you've got 100 other people that are on there but could pin those 12 that are presenting and then somebody could curate and, you know, and say, hey, we're going to lock these nine, but these other three or whoever is asking questions and currently talking aside from those eyes, that would be fantastic capability. Yeah, I agree. I do know there are some folks that are like, when at first this whole thing started happening and folks had to switch over, and people that haven't used conferencing as much as others have, you know, being using Zoom or using Teams or using GoToMeeting or whatever. Their biggest thing was like, oh, Zoom, you can see everybody, this is so cool. Well, you know, and then, yeah, then they'd start complaining, well, teams can't do that, you know, GoToMeeting, you can't do that. And now it's kind of the point where they're like, yeah, yeah, it was cool. Now it's just aggravating. Anybody remember Blipvert from MaxHeadroom? Yeah. Way back when? Yeah. So much advertising compressed into so little space that it was causing people's heads to explode. You just, I need a MaxHeadroom background. Yeah. There you go. And in fact, I'll find the link to the segment on the Blipvert. That's copyright violation. So just something really quick here for all four of us, Seb really likes the hand waving and the motion, so let's give him kind of an in-depth, it's all just, you know, talk with our hands, you know. Thank you. Thank you, Seb, for bringing this up. So important. I'm so stupid. I'm so stupid. I'm so stupid. I'm so stupid. Hey, remember Hal and I were pontificating on access and access services and whatnot? Yes. Well, I did a little more looking and boy was I off the mark. So I just posted a link in- That's shocking. The chat, yeah, me being off the mark, imagine that. But access, they're still, Microsoft is still touting it. You know, they've got the latest services on offer out there. Got a bright, shiny link for it. So it's not going away anytime soon. Hey, I always say, if they create a new icon for it, they're not getting rid of it. Fair point. Well, as we talked about last time, for those that missed that, did we talk about it last week or two weeks ago? It was last week. It was last week, the access services. And I still say it's, you know, especially for, while there's fewer and fewer of them in the world, but folks that move over from the Lotus Notes experience over in the Microsoft world. The most notes to plague. But they move over from that and, but needing to have a small, you know, database driven, you know, application building tool, access services with combined with SharePoint. So this was back in what, what was that? 2010 to 2012, somewhere back then it was, that was an alternative to, for those Lotus Notes folks. Only reason I'm aware of that is, you know, my previous company Acceler, we have, and I think the product is still out there, a Lotus Notes migration solution. And they're still, for the folks that are out there, you know, we were dealing with that all the time. Like, well, what do I do with all of these database driven applications we built in Lotus Notes? There is no migration path for those, but you need to provide similar functionality so that they can go in there and re-architect those solutions. Now, of course you've got Power Apps and Power Flow and a bunch of other things. And with SharePoint and with the lists, all things that can be done today, it's very, very different. But I, I'd agree that I'm sure there's plenty of people, there's people still using COBOL and access is slightly newer than that. You know, Notes is still a thing. It, I hear that. Yes. It is. It's still a thing. I have a company here in, you know, in my state that still uses Notes. It just gives me the willies every time I hear it. Well, I've got a question here from, is it Make? Sorry if I, Mike, Make, Schmidt, so saying, since the name changed to Microsoft 365, Teams should be made usable for families. Why is this not yet possible? So what needs to happen for Teams to be? Isn't it great? I mean, you can use it for families. Yeah, but it's still, but it's still an enterprise. It is, it is, but I mean, you can tie it to, I mean, when you sign up for Teams, you don't have to give it, you have to have a Microsoft account. That doesn't mean you need a, do you need a work or what do they call it, a work or school account? Work or school account. Microsoft ID. Yeah. I'm sorry? Yeah, a work or school account. You can't use just a Microsoft ID? You can use just a Microsoft ID. Okay, so, and that, that to me, I mean, my son has a Microsoft ID just for his Xbox, right? So it's not a work or school account. So you don't need that, that background 365 in order for the function. I guess, I guess it's not as easy as other products, but you can still do it. Yeah. Again, I agree. And you've got the free version that that's out there. If you have, like I've been talking with my family members about everybody that's on my account, they have logins, they're using the web-based tools and some downloaded local versions of the productivity suite. And so it'd be easy for them to go in and use Teams, but only a couple of them. Yeah. One of my sons and my daughter are using it occasionally, but the others are just, they just don't need it. Yeah. Skype? We got a notice, and that's kind of funny because we got a notification, one of the largest get-togethers that they're gonna have, they got like 600 and 700 some people that one of the CPM sent out an invite for or sent out a thing for is gonna be done on Skype. It's a conference and all the conference instead of Teams. Skype consumer. And I came back and I was like, does this really say Skype? Yeah, it does. Is that Skype consumer or Skype to business? I just said Skype. I mean, it said the speakers because it was a call for speakers for it. And it said that, you know, if you want to, you need to make sure that you're beyond Skype. And I'm like, okay. Skype consumer is still alive and doing okay. Oh yeah. Well, they just did the, in response to the Zoom, they just released the Skype Meet Now. Did they? I don't know, I don't keep up with Skype. Yeah, hang on. Yeah, so I actually included that in the productivity tips webinar with Tom Duff. That was one of my items. It was, so they've simplified that. So you don't even have to download the Skype app. You can just use it entirely through the browser. And so for you, if you're hosting that Skype meeting and you have a profile and it'll open up in the Skype consumer, you know, experience. But then you can send out that shareable link to anybody and just by email invite and they can join you on the web. Okay, but is it a one-on-one or is it one-on-one? Nope, it's a group. It's a group. It's a group thing? Correct. Interesting, very interesting. I saw, I actually saw and related to that, I saw a tweet over the weekend. I'd have to hunt it down. But somebody said that if you're in Google Chat and you type in, hey, do you want a Zoom or would you like a Zoom? Google automatically pops up a bubble with a little camera in it. It looks like a Zoom, the Zoom icon. If you click on it, it opens Google Hangout. Interesting. So it's taking the term Zoom and it's popping up a bubble and then opening its own. They don't call it Hangouts now. They call it something else, aren't they? I don't remember, they came up with some name because they got rid of Hangouts, but it pops up there. They got rid of Hangouts? I mean, it's still there? Yeah, but they're gonna rename it. They said there was a new name coming for it. I don't know what it is, Converse. So if they're trying to make Zoom generic description for a web meeting, how soon are we gonna see, like, go over to Bing to Google something? Geez. I want that on a shoot. Oh, speaking of explosions, I did post the Blip Fertz link, the YouTube link. Oh, okay. Blip Fertz from the MaxHeadroom television series years back. So you can watch that and see the power of advertising quite literally cause someone to explode. Yeah. And Tony mentioned it's like Google Hangouts is not Google Meet, so two different products. So yeah. I'm sorry, that's it, Google Meet. So when you click on that Zoom, it brings you to Google Meet. That's right. Yeah. Oh, and Seb says the Skype Meet now is limited to 50 people. Yeah? Right, which is more than enough. It's meant to be a consumer-based solution. Most consumers are not, you're not gonna go run a conference off of Skype Meet now. But that's what I'm interested to hear about that conference, to understand. Like, so they must be using Skype for Business to get a greater capacity. I'm gonna open up Teams. Of course, I have to find the right tenant. And then once I do that, I'll find out what that link is. It's like playing whack-a-mole. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Any other questions from those that are watching in the Watch Party or out live streaming on Facebook? We've got nine more minutes here for this session. We'll be back, of course, again tonight at 6 p.m. Pacific. We'll be doing it all again because we're gluttonous for punishment. No, it's, yes. So are you. Questions? Feel free to continue posting here. I will be checking these, the live stream pages, or you can email me or message me through whatever channel out on Twitter as well. If you've got questions, find me somehow, LinkedIn, Twitter, send them. He's Anta Christian. He watches that list and checks it twice. You're on the naughty list, Sean. Ha, ha, ha, ha. He always does it. I would have expected nothing less. And Facebook just announced Messenger Rooms. I've been seeing some messaging around that. I've just chosen. Messenger Rooms? Oh, wow. Is that the answer to get a room? Ha, ha, ha, ha. Yes, I think so. Yeah, I love that. So next week, we're gonna be moving all of this to our SharePoint Spaces VR environment. Reach out and touch someone. How could I not know this? I apologize. It's the Virtual Azure Community Day. So it's at azureday.community. When is that? Is it today? Thursday, March 31st. It's the Virtual Azure Community Day. March 31st. March 31st. That's what it says. March 31st, 2020. It's already, oh yeah, it's already over with. They were asking for a call. Cold news. Yeah, they were, but I just wanna tell you, this is what they said for the session. Oh. So I'm gonna post this. That's what they wanted. And it said, you have to stream live from home through Skype. Okay, all, you know what? I might reach out to Magnus Martenson, who is one of the organizers of that event and see what they had been recommending and what some of the capacity. I'll do a little research to try and find that. And it's weird because she posted this on 421 for the call for proposals, for a call for papers. And they had the event on the 31st and that was like really fast. Wow. Odd. Yeah, I don't know if, so a couple of the, so I helped facilitate here for Utah for our version of that event. I didn't participate, I was traveling. There was a global Azure boot camp, right? Correct. A global Azure. Yeah, the last couple of years we've been, yeah, we've been on that band, because when I was asked somebody in the user group whether they've, you know, what they used. So do a little research there. Excellent. You know, private comment. Somebody is telling me to get a haircut. Thank you. Happy. Yeah, me and everyone else. Yeah, except people in this audience. Freshly shorn this weekend. Now some good questions, some good comments. This week, thanks everybody for participating. And I did share a link. I pasted it for the Skype Meet Now. Go take a look at that. If you've not had a chance to do that. You know, there's always this complaint with Microsoft's acquisition of Skype. And all the problems and the complaints that I had about the Skype for business failures. The Skype consumer product has been rock solid. And my usage of that. So I was a user of it and had, you know, credit in the bank there for years and use that. It was one of those technologies. It was like Facebook Messenger and Skype consumer where I had a crappy wifi connection. I think I was in the airport down in the South Island of New Zealand and couldn't get email, could get anything else to go through. But Facebook Messenger with their deal with the devil and Skype consumer came through solid. I was able to do voice calls on my phone through the Skype consumer app. And it was fantastic. So I was able to do my crappy wifi to landline and... Savier of the day. Yeah. I had gotten a credit, like a gift card. I had wanted something. And it was a $100 credit for Skype. And then it sat there for years? It did, it sat there for years, but then I started to use it instead of my phone. So I was starting, I called landlines. And that's when you started, you know, you started to see that number go down really fast. Yeah. But the same thing, but I think with all the global travel that I've done, I have my international plan on my phone. And I use my data plan goes to just about everywhere I travel to. And it was in most countries that I visited in the last decade, I just stopped using it. So I had for years like $85 still in there. It might be gone now. I have to go take a look. I know that they expired it. If you didn't use it for... Right. I remember getting the warning. Yeah. Yep. Use it or lose it. Yep. All right, Eddie, we got time for one more question. If anybody has a question, feel free to post it to one of the live stream pages. Go through to see if I missed anything here. And Himmelstein, hey, if you've got any questions. Yeah, I know, here comes trouble. Hey, Jason. But feel free to post your question. Jason asked a question, I might ignore it. All right. Anything else exciting going on today for you gentlemen? No, it's a beautiful day outside. Yeah. I don't know from that. Just a Monday. One question I do have for everybody. Is anybody taking vacations while you're dealing with this or if you've worked from home, obviously, but I mean, that's been one sticking point that I've had folks that I've worked with that never haven't done this before. They're like, well, how am I supposed to take a vacation? Yeah, we've got one planned for the family, but I doubt we will actually go through it. We typically go to Michigan during the summer, rent a place on one of the lakes up there. And even though we've got plans and everything booked, I expect we're gonna forgo that this year. Yeah. Yeah, so my youngest that just returned from Argentina, he and I are talking about doing a road trip out to visit my daughter in Minneapolis. And so I'm doing some investigation just to figure out that our path, it's a what is it, 18 and a half hour drive from Salt Lake to Minneapolis. And so we wanna make a couple stops. You can't drive through that part of the world and not visit Mount Rushmore. It's one of my favorite stops. And I think what we'll also go, I took them when they were younger. We went to, it was at Devil's Tower, which is where they filmed. Close and counters. Close and counters. And so those are two things that we want to stop off and see again. So it's about a 25, 26 hour drive that we'll be making with those stops. Hey, it'll be a nice road trip for you. We just wanna make sure that everything's open. So I have to go and investigate and see if those parks are even open in those states. You come out to the Midwest, everything's open. I mean, literally, we're down to 95 cents a gallon on gas, we, you know. And it's- Where are you, Mike? I'm in Wisconsin. Okay. So I'm in the freezing cold Midwest, but I mean, it's just, it's like we drove out yesterday and got ice cream and it's like, everything's open. Yeah. Well, Utah is opening up rapidly. The state parks are all back open and so I just, we're making some other checks but making those plans. And then, you know, gas stations are one of those essential things so none of them are closed but we're just figuring out our strategy and bringing masks and gloves for when we have to stop and all that kind of fun stuff. So like that one thing I've noticed out with some of the hikes of the trails here that while the state parks might be open, all the bathrooms, the public, anything public like that is closed. And so that's a concern doing a trip like that. What facilities are gonna be available. So, I mean, I'm used to taking the dogs for a walk and bagging everything. So, maybe that's... Yeah, bring a lot of Ziplocs with you Christian. So I always tell my kids, I said the one, this is the world is a man's bathroom. So, and on that note. Bring an empty milk jug with you. Yeah, there you go. So thanks all for joining and thanks to the panel. So Mike, Sean, and Hal. And again, feel free to continue posting any questions. I'll be checking these feeds. We'll be back again at 6 p.m. Pacific to hit our next, our Tuesday morning Asia Pacific timeframe but 6 p.m. Pacific. Join us in the same bat cave, bat location. And we'll just see you, see everybody there. Be good everyone. Thanks a lot. Have a good one. Bye. Bye. All right. Just for those that are just jumping in and just kicking off the live stream in a couple of locations. We do the watch party. Start that going. And now when I have to mute. Yep. All right. And it's muted and we're going. And where's the primary feed? Come on. Refresh. There it is. Okay. Excellent. All right. It's just that easy. Excellent. And there's Sean. We had Sean. Mr. McDonough. Good evening. I was just telling Hal that I wasted at least a couple hours today to try to set up OBS with 15 wins. And saw your emails and invites and things. No luck, huh? Not so far. No, I think I need to pick the brains of people that have figured this stuff out. Daryl Webster, Daniel Glenn, a few others that have done this kind of stuff and get some of that secret sauce. Yeah, hop on the back of someone who's climbed the mountain already. Exactly. But nothing wrong with that. No shame in that, Christian. Not at all. I have no problem with that. I was already scanning the interwebs. The YouTubes and both of them. I scanned both. Wow, all at once? I know. Did you hurt anything or pull anything? I spread myself. I paced myself. You stressed your groin, did you? Yeah, that's right. Interweb as well as both YouTubes. Wow, it's a lot of YouTube in action. Yeah, it was pretty intense. Well, I'm glad that your tubes are activated. What is that surgery called? It's the tubal ligation. Scares me that we both hit that on the same note, Hal. At some point, once Stream has that anonymous access and we can have a more controlled YouTube-like experience, then I'll do the YouTube ligation. YouTube ligation, yes. Brand new procedure created here. All right. Well, we've got a few people that are watching. And this isn't just the three of us that are sitting here. Well, I mean, we are right now just sitting around just chatting. Yeah, I'm no longer playing Minecraft with my son and his friends. Well, you get back to that shortly. You heard about. He'll be asleep by the time I get back to it. Yeah, well, I'll invite you to a TF2 game. OK, I haven't played TF2 in a long time. Yeah, so I actually do that now with two of my boys. And so we'll go in the party and go in there and attack together. And then, of course, it does the auto balance causally. And then I switch over and I tell them that they're dead to me then. And then you make them dead to you. That's right. So what do you play in TF2, Christian? What character do I play? Yeah. So I like the pyro number one and then the heavy. And so I've got the setups and I've got multiple setups depending on what's happening inside the game and the play. If I'm with a bunch of noobs that are against any capping and just are running around dancing, then I'll put on the heavy with the what is it, the dragon-headed machine gun that spits out the fire around you. And I'll just go out and slaughter the dancers, you know, the people that are in the field. Yeah. Clear the field. But otherwise, yeah, it's the pyro is my choice. And with the, yeah, he has the, what is it, the other gun? The torch, the, yeah, my mind is on other things right now. But anyway, yeah, so I'll from afar set people alight. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. Well, remember, build a man of fire. He'll stay warm for a night. Set a man on fire. He'll be alive for the rest of his life. Yeah, that's true. That's a good t-shirt. I'll remember that. Well, for those that are just joining in, what are we doing here, this is an ask me anything. So Microsoft community, the office hours. So if you have any questions around Microsoft products or services, feel free to ask. And there's, you've got three MVPs here. We may have some others join us. If you'd like to join, if you're an MVP or expert in the space, then you can join us over on Zoom as well. Elton says hello from Brazil. Ah, good evening. Elton, greetings from Brazil. So anyway, let's see, did we have any homework from this morning's? Tied off a few things, but I don't recall any particular homework assignment. I'm looking through, I started to capture some notes to make it easier for the summary blog posts. Ah, and this is actually the second part of our sixth Monday of doing this. And what I'm doing is I'm publishing onto YouTube. I'm combining both the morning and the evening sessions because we do them at 8 AM and 6 PM Pacific to hit Amia as well as APAC and the Americas of course. And then I'm also providing in a blog post, which you can find out on buckleyplanet.com. And if you look for them, you can see the distinctive logo of the community office hours. And I'm providing an outline with jump links to each of the topics that we discuss. So there's 12 to 15 topics per video. And Paul says hello from Atlanta as well. But you go take a look and summarize. And so we've had some fun conversations. And when we don't have questions coming in from the crowd, so we try to address some of the questions that have been asked openly on the Office 365 community out on Facebook. And even some that have been asked on the download. And it's correct. So offline, off the Twitter's, off the line. What was that movie? I watched that movie with Vince Vaughn where they were the interns. And he kept referring to the internet on the line. So what we could do is we could go on the line. Give back the Twitter's. All right. So do we have any questions? Any burning questions? Today, probably this morning, the typical of some of the questions that are asked, we were asked what's going on with the latest with getting more than four videos up on Teams for the meetings. And our answer was, we don't know. Three by three is coming. Yes, it's forthcoming. I think they're still saying, I've not heard them change the date. I gave you the link to that. It's due to the roll in May. Yeah. Start rolling in May anyway. Sean, that's what you did for me this morning. But what have you done for me lately? Man, tough crowd. You're so demanding, Christian. So yeah, feel free to, in the comments, if you have any questions. And as always, your mileage on some of these dates may vary. We may say it starts rolling in May. But you may find that it gets to your tenant, depending on whether you're in early adoption or not. You might get it a lot later than that. I'm amazed by some of that too. So I'm on one of the fast rings. And sometimes I hear about stuff. And other people sharing screenshots, I'm like, it's not on my tenant. It's not on my tenant. Yeah. Flashing the new bling and you're wondering where yours is. I actually made that request at the MVP Summit last year, where I said, what would be great is you go in and look at the M365 road map, the product road map. And you can go in there, filter based on product. And I would love to be able to see a filter view based on my tenant. Yeah, that would be nice if they could make that happen. Don't tell me about things that aren't available to me personally. Yeah, you get my hopes up. And you're like, Bart Simpson, where's my spy camera? Where's my spy camera? Where's my spy camera? All right. Yeah, so no questions yet. So I'm going to look through some of the other. I'm reading through some of the questions. There's a few very lengthy, wordy questions. When people are asking about migration questions, a little tougher to answer in this time frame. And Mike could be more of a long drawn out. Here's somebody who's asking a nine part question. I don't think we're going to get that one. Are they a legal major at a major university? Yeah, is that in the education sector? Subpart J of part three of the. Yeah, it's a that's that's called hire a consultant. When you have to ask a question in nine parts, go by a few hours of somebody's time. Yeah, you're trying to do too much on the cheap folks. Yeah, these questions must be as simple as I am. So someone who has a problem with Office 365, they call it Office 386. There's a problem there. 365, 386, whatever it takes. 36, 387, whatever it takes. I'm using Windows 7. Windows 7 SP1. And trying to install the login account is a blank window. Hmm. Hmm. So not installing on Windows 7, SP1. Try migrating to Windows 10. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know how not a Windows guy, but I seem to recall. I mean, I know that 10 was a lot smaller payload than install then eight. But I think it's also smaller than seven more compact runs later. Yeah, and for you folks running Windows 7, I'm going to post a link from TechRadar. And it's called Windows 7 End of Life, everything you need to know about the death of Windows 7 from January 13, 2020. Let me paste that into the comments here. Three places to add that, so hang on. Windows 7 End of Life starts January 14, 2020. I like that. End of Life starts. I guess that's when it goes on life support. Does it get a ventilator? Is it one of the select few getting a ventilator? Death isn't the end, Sean. It is the beginnings, just the start of the next stage, the next part of the journey. As worm food, yeah, I get that. Yeah, is it? So we ask, how to add guests to my organization as members? Ah-ha. Yes, add them in Active Directory. Azure Active Directory is directly to that. Yeah, it just depends that if you're talking about within Office 365, are you talking about in-team specifically, into a SharePoint? But yeah, by default, let's say, if you're an admin within Active Directory, can add them through Active Directory. Or you can have your admin add them to the specific workload like Microsoft Teams. I just added two members to my system. Just in Office 365 and the admin portal went in and there's an add user button. And I went and added two people today. And for our listeners or viewers, I just posted another link from Microsoft Docs. Add Azure Active Directory B2B collaboration users in Azure portal. Let me respond to Zoe's comment there. It's a real easy thing to do. Yeah, they've made it a lot easier, so. Yeah, hell of a lot easier. It's a lot easier to tell who are the guest users in your tenant as well. Oh, so something, I see this comment. There's been a few discussions around the name change. We discussed that this morning briefly, didn't we? Impact on the name change? Was that before I showed up? It would have been before I showed up because I don't recall that. Yeah, so we may not have just another site conversation that's going on. Is this to M365 versus O365? Yeah, so for those that aren't aware, if you didn't see some of the news, Microsoft is retiring the standalone of the Office 365 brand and renaming everything Microsoft 365. Now, I'll cut in here to say this is a sign that most people have gotten used to in a very comfortable Office 365, so Microsoft felt the need to move the cheese. Correct. Well, there's a reason for that though. Right. Other than moving the cheese. Well, no, they put on some discussion about that. And here to for all of the various in sundry office names started off as Office, so they kept that around. But what they started doing as things got revised was that these changes were all made as licensing options excused. I'd say shopkeeping units is what that stands for. Wow. Good to know. I never knew that. Okay. I did not either. Thank you, Hal, for that bit of trivia. At any event. So the change from Office 2010, 13, 16, et cetera to Office 365 was in addition to the various and sundry extras and things that you did get or didn't get depending on what license you got. The 365 was to include things like flow and power automate and some of those features, which while they are office products aren't really for the standard office user. So all of that was licensing based. All of those names changes all dealt with licensing. The change to Microsoft 365 from Office 365 is a branding issue. So the marketing. It has nothing to do with the various and sundry shopkeeping units, cues, whatever. It has nothing to do with that. All of the packages, they'll say it all of the packages. It's just, the name has changed to protect the units. It gets one of those Office, Office, Bob Office, Banana, Banna, Fanna, Foe, Office, 365, Foe, Office, sorts of things. So I hate to interrupt gentlemen, but we've hit it. So Christopher wins the award for this recording, for being the first one to question why we're using, Microsoft people are using Zoom. Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. So this is our, again, the second half of our sixth day of doing this. So that- We need a sound effect for that. I know, this, oh wait, I do have one. Hang on. You got an air horn or something? I do. Wait, did it go? Come on. There we go. Awesome. Oh, yeah, and I have, or the gong. So either one. Yeah, so Christopher, the reason that we're using Zoom is because we're live streaming on Facebook and Teams does not do that. Teams live events did not live stream. And as I was saying at the very beginning of the recording, I wasted a couple hours today trying to go in to configure OBS with the live stream keys for Facebook and the camera wasn't working properly. And then, so we're working on that. There are some people who are in the know. I was hoping that one of them would join us this evening from Auckland, but yeah, it's not been a priority for us. It's the reason we're live streaming is because we are trying to reach where the audience is, where all of you are, which is out on Facebook for some reason. And then we post the recordings to YouTube. So the goal is to hit the largest audience. And so we can always do a webinar and only invite the people that we know and find. And yeah, we can do a live meeting and publish that out there. And again, we have to, people are, and I'm talking too long about this, but we've just found that when we do that and we just provide an open link to a webinar, we get far fewer people that join the webinar than we'll watch a live stream. So that's why. Anyway. All right, so back into it. Sorry to interrupt the story time. Like I said, it's our 12th time recording, doing this. And every time, and somebody mentions that and we're well aware of that. So I'm not, hopefully, I'm not beating up on anybody. But all right. Okay, yeah, so, but as far as the impact of the branding change around the change from 365 to Microsoft 365, part of it in the complaint, there was an MVP call and they were talking about the name change. And I'm just like, really this is what we're talking about. I said, look, I understand people. It's confusing to some clients, especially for consultants out there to try and, to understand, especially with some of the licensing, underlying licensing changes, where there are some impacts where things that were like a pro version is now the standard version and there's a new pro version, but you were paying for the pro version, which is now the standard version, not the new pro version. All those things get very confusing. My response to all that is that this is like the, what, the 20th time, 50th time Microsoft has done something like this. So why are we wasting our time talking about it? It isn't as bad as some of them have done. Like Outlook and Outlook Express. Oh my. Microsoft, the company that gave you comm, but before comm, we had OLE before that. We had DDE, but before that, it's like, they actually, they made fun of themselves at TechEd, I want to say 99, which was down in Dallas. They crowded everybody into the, I want to say the Dallas Convention Center, whatever stadium there. And one of the first talks of the day was, they rolled a video that was produced by Microsoft. It was like 15 minutes long about this DDE to OLE to comm conversion and it was total making fun of themselves and all the branding changes that went with that. It was hilarious. I wish I tried to find a copy of that somewhere online. I have not found a copy online. So if anybody has a link to that, please send it to me. If you happen to be a TechEd 99 or whichever one was in Dallas close to that year and happen to see it. The two people out there, maybe, besides me. Yeah, good times. That's the flavor of life. It's the name changes, it's the branding changes that just keeps us guessing, keeps it interesting, keeps a lot of consultants in business. So here's the question I want to jump past. So Elton asked the question, with a single credential, can I manage multiple tenants just like in Azure? I guess the count can be put in the tenant administrator role, can't it? No, I'm not sure. There was just, I just saw him looking, there was- I believe I did that with one of my accounts in one of my other tenants. I put it in the admin role. I kind of swarmed that there was this similar question posted somewhere here in the Office 365 community on Facebook. I'm looking through to see if I can find it. I'm gonna try and do it right now. See, that's where you get your money's worth people or we're in real time gonna go take a look and see if we can solve that. See what the answer actually is. See admin. I see another question that just got posted. Let me refresh that. Where did I just see that question? See, April just joined in watching. April, I just sent you a link to join the panel if you'd like to join us. Unless she's shy, oh yeah. And- You say walk. I just, my wife is so works for Pottery Barn as a visual designer. So she's got all this Pottery Barn stuff in the garage and she's at the house and she's purging, getting ready for spring, gotta buy a bunch of new stuff apparently. And we're just in the community here, our neighborhood. She's giving stuff away. So she stuck the dogs down and shut the door in the basement. So that, and if anybody comes to the door, of course they're gonna hear it and freak out. I just invited an account from a Microsoft 365 business user tenant that I've got to my E5 and put them in the global admin role. So yes, it is possible. Sent myself a link. I'm now going to the link, reviewing my permissions, saying yes to the permissions. Hang tight. We give you access to Bitstream Foundry, LLC. And just like that, I'm a global admin. Okay. There you go. He says thanks. You're welcome. These are good things for us to know too. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, there was, I was, look, I didn't see where it was. It may have been, I was looking at the community over on, I was reading through today some stuff out on Microsoft tech community, also reading some stuff out on LinkedIn and the groups. And so it may have happened over there, but some of the folks were looking at, I think it was a similar question. But their question, they were really digging into was some of the differences between like a, like an admin role versus like a CSP, MSP type role and trying to understand what's out there. So I didn't find it. So I'm glad you were able to answer that. Yeah. CSP is more a designation for partners and whatnot. I suspect it comes with certain roles, but you know, the global admin role is more of a security group tenant role. Right. Well, I know that Microsoft, this has been one of the complaints about Office 365 in general is that, you know, from the CSP or MSP, CSP, you can still have multiple customers that you're providing services to. CSP is, you know, whether they purchase their licenses through you or not, not talking about partner of record stuff, but managing, doing certain tasks and could be, you know, authorized administrator on those systems. And one of the criticisms has been, you know, Microsoft, you need to make it easier for those of us that need to manage multiple tenants. You make it very painful. And so they've been working on some capability. I think there's still a lot to do there, of course. Yeah. But... And CSP for you folks who might be wondering, I believe, is cloud service partner, right? Right. And MSP is managed service provider. So generally, MSP might be... Cloud service provider, yeah. Yeah. MSP might be that you go to a vendor and they provide you with everything that's within the suite, Office 365 or now Microsoft 365, but they may also have, especially a lot of MSPs, they may specialize in HR. And so they've got their own apps and tools and solutions built. Or there have been project management based. So you could actually get Office 365 and before prior to Project Online, you could get like a hosted version of Microsoft Project or Project Server and have it all as one bundled solution and go to one vendor for all those pieces, as well as help with custom development. And I know there was a real push for even independence to go and become and kind of market themselves as CSPs. And even if you're working with a single client. Yeah. But you wouldn't get that tier one designation. So there's the questions. Kevin had asked a question. I saw this one kind of come through as well, asking, is there how to take a team from private to public without doing it all by hand? And I know that you can take something from private to public. I can't remember where we landed. If you can do that the other way around. I don't think so. I'm sure you're with changing the status for visibility access. I'm a great team's consumer. I'm not much of a team's admin. I'm not a team player. I was about to go there. I'll beat you to it. I will flog myself Christian. Anything else? Any other questions you guys have run into that we, or if you want to restate any great answers we had from this morning? Do you even remember the morning? I'm having trouble with that. No. I guess I'm sundowning. I just saw, this is completely unrelated, but talking about Field Memory, I just, I saw something earlier today during lunch, I was watching something, one of those tubes on you that Malcolm in the middle, huge fan of that show, but Frankie, what is it? Munoz. Munoz? Munoz, yeah. He was in an accident and he has no memory of acting in the show. What? Yeah. Wow, that's a pretty significant excision of memory. Yeah, yeah. So he lost like a decade of his memory. So I mean, he's doing fine. He's married and has business. I'm not sure if it happened. He was, you know, driving, driving cars was, you know, racing there for a while. If he was in an accident or something or had some other health issue, I don't know, I didn't get into the detail of that, but just thought it was incredible that he lost that. Wow. Anyway, so we have no excuses. I guess it's by far. None that we can claim, at least that's that dramatic. Yeah. Brian Cranston also in Malcolm in the middle. That was an amazing show. We love that show. For me, it's like Seinfeld, you know, I can go back and watch Malcolm in the middle. Yeah. All right, let me see if there's any other questions. Again, if you have any questions you'd like us to address. Oh, there are a couple things. Keith asked a question. I'm not sure if we'll answer here, but I might look into it. I took a training for Office 365 admins a few months back, and there was a recommendation mentioned that global admins use a login name of name at, tenant name at, log in name of name at, tenantname.onmicrosoft.com, as opposed to name at donemainname.com in a hybrid environment. What's the reason behind that if there actually is any? You guys heard that? I've not heard that recommendation now. I don't know why. Other than if you want to just make it clear, only your admins have that. Just to make it clear the organization of who has access to what, but I don't understand why that would make any difference. Yeah. About the only thing I could see is that there was some form of a DNS issue. Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing now. And that would prevent you from getting in as so-and-so at domain, whereas so-and-so at on microsoft.com. Of course, you still go through DNS to get that, but if you screwed up the domain, or if they screwed up the domain, or if something screwed up the domain, that would at least get you back into maybe six seconds. Yeah, I can also see that factoring into authentication as well with ADFS, if you're doing that sort of sign-in that would route you back to an organization or pass through authentication with AD, where you pass back through to the DCs that might be on-premises or something. Yeah. Beyond that, yeah, I don't have any particular thoughts or answers on that. I wouldn't be interested in the rationale for it, though. Yeah, there's Keith, if you can share with us, you know, like where the training was or who it was through, I mean, that's the kind of thing that we'd love to go follow up on and... Maybe learn something. Grab a link, yeah. Absolutely, yeah. And there's something on that too. I mean, there's a lot of flavors of hybrid too. So, you know, getting kind of more detail around that response, but yeah. See, Muhammad says, is it necessary to have all domains verified on Office 365 to migrate users from exchange to Office 365 if users have secondary SMTP of more than one domain? Did you follow that one? No, no, no. Secondary SMTP for multiple accounts or what's the particular situation? Muhammad, if you happen to have that. Yeah, if you can provide a little more detail. So, I mean, you can specify any number of SMT endpoints in exchange. While we're waiting to see if he clarifies something on that, Ali asks, multi-factor authentications on P1, do you think it's really required on accounts other than global admins? Well, how prone is your business to assault what your attack surface and what you're trying to protect? I mean, MFA comes down to whether or not you feel that much security is warranted and won't be a user impediment or not. I mean, I put MFA on my Amazon account. Definitely do on my bank accounts. Likewise. So, MFA is a good thing. It's not a bad thing, but the only time it might be prohibitive again is that cost of user learning and adjustment and whether or not it proves an impediment to actually getting business done. You guys have any other thoughts on that? Not really. No, same as you, I'm using it more and more. Honestly, I don't look at it as so much as a hassle. It all depends on what it is. All the financial institutions, my bank credit cards and major accounts. Yeah, so let's put it this way. Blizzard games, if you got a Warcraft account, the Blizzard Authenticator typically uses MFA and there's a Blizzard Authentication app. So people protect their virtual assets with MFA, not just physical assets. It all depends on what something's worth to you and how high you wanna make the bar on security. Yeah, all he says, user learning and adjustment is his sticking point. Yeah, I mean, that's the issue. It's, you know, you could put a lot of rules, a lot of controls in place, make things very secure. If you have to balance that with whether that is stopping people from using the platform. Exactly. And balance those things. I mean, that's part of the governance strategies to go in and look at that user experience and look at what are the requirements of your business. Is it difficult for people to get in there? Well, if you're having multiple breaches, intellectual property loss, a bunch of other things that are happening to business, you're gonna be like, suck it up people, you know? And you just may need to enhance your training and have constant refreshers and reminders, build a like a marketing campaign for those activities of why you're doing it, why it's important. But, you know, that is essential. This day and age, it's becoming more and more essential to have that in place. Because you can bet if you are hacked, one of the very first question people are gonna be playing in the aftermath is what could you have done to make it more difficult for to prevent this sort of activity in the first place? If you have MFA available to you, I wouldn't actually make, I wouldn't, having come from a disaster recovery background, I've played this game before, I don't make disaster recovery decisions. I will advise people on what they can do in different situations. The decisions need to come from the people who are going to be impacted the greatest and pay the costs for these things. We shouldn't be making them just because we have the technical keys of the kingdom. We should be making the offer to our business partners and folks to make that decision and let them know what's available to them. But if you are in a position of making that decision for your organization, might not hurt to survey your users and ask them how they feel about it and explain what that would bring to the table in terms of security as well as what the problem might be. Because there are different ways of doing MFA as well. You know, there are authenticator apps, there's the simple text to the cell phone. It depends on how you implement it and different ways of implementing it come with different technical challenges. So, you know, survey folks, know what your options are, present them and let them make informed decisions. And we've got a couple of follow-up posts here, Keith. Back to Mohamed's question. And I'll go back and again that to have all the domains verified in Office 365 to migrate users from exchange to Office 365 with the secondary SMTP. So, Keith said, I think Mohamed means, like for example, at microsoft.com is the primary SMTP, but then there's other addresses on the same mailbox for at Outlook and Hotmail, for example. So, you know, some other examples would be, you know, through company acquisitions. Yeah. So, part of that's gonna be policy driven, but I mean, if you're talking about different SMTP servers and different domains, it kind of comes down to what your authoritative domain is for your particular email account and what people typically route email through for that account. I mean, there are different factors that weigh into that. Yeah, so I mean, look at my little account, so I have three different domains that I own and that are all managed through that account, but I have a couple of different people, some of my contractors that I use on a regular basis that I've given, you know, boxes and some licenses to on each of those three different accounts and I'll roll up to that one location, so. Yeah. I'm not migrating, so I'm not doing that other additional piece of that. Yeah, some of it comes down to, I mean, there are different concerns with this too. The security's another one. Some SMTP servers, most SMTP servers, if they're publicly exposed are gonna require authentication. So, you know, is it publicly exposed or not? That's a big question. And if it is, you're gonna require authentication. You may choose to send private mail through one SMTP server that's kept privately and accepts more anonymous relays on secure IP ranges and things like that. You know, that's where security factors into it, but there are different ways you can weigh things and factor that into the ultimate decision-making process. Let's see. Yeah, here's another one. I don't know that we're gonna be able to help, but just kind of do the, mm-hmm. But Mohamed also says, why did Microsoft change Pro Plus to Microsoft Apps for Enterprise? Yeah, for a wanderer. That's my thing, Frank. Yeah. So many bodies were buried in the closet and people got access to it, so they moved them, I don't know. No, no, I think that they were thinking things were running a little too smoothly in the community. So we need to every once in a while, just, you know, shake it. It's like that bingo ball with the numbers. You gotta shake it up, mix it up. Mix it up, see what happens. See who freaks out. You know, well, those look how bright red and angry that MVP is. Yeah. We're not pulling well, change things. That's right. Yeah. You can almost see the people doing it right now. Yeah. Honestly, I mean, again, we had this discussion around the O365 to M365, and there are some people that were just taking it a little too personally in expressing angst about that. And I'm just like, really, this is what we're, and I think, Sean, you were on the call. Actually, we're both of you on the MVP call. Yeah. And I'm just like, is this what we're talking about people? Like, I've got stuff to do, and so I dropped off. So much question, a questionably righteous indignation. It's almost kind of funny. Yeah. How dare you? How dare you, sir? Yeah. I remember having a similar indignant conversation, being angry at the changes back in 2007, 2008. 2008, when it was during the MMS to Office 365, when the branding was announced, was released, and people were curdled at that process. Just like... It's a good word for it. It's fine. Yeah. You're starting to harsh my mellow. All right, any other questions that we can answer or make jokes about or something? Yeah. There's nothing we won't take a crack of making fun of. Yeah. And I see, and Heather joined, she probably already left by now, though, but... Heather... Heather Newman. Oh, great. Heather Newman. And divided me to one of the greatest Facebook groups in existence these days. The last one? No. No, the social distancing fashion show. It is incredible. It is a wonderful group. People like doing all sorts of things. I mean, they're not afraid to be risque, and it's everything from clothes to makeup. I watched one this morning with a woman who was sitting in a video camera, and clearly there was somebody who had man hands behind her who was acting as her hands, and she was putting her makeup on. Oh, it was her husband doing that, right? With the kid around her. Yeah, I saw that one. That was fantastic. I mean, some of that stuff is just worth its weight in gold, and it helps keep people, I guess, motivated and a little lighter-hearted during this, you know, COVID mess that we've got going on. Yeah. Sean, what COVID mess? What are you talking about? Oh, don't go there. Please don't. Why you told me about this? What's going on? What is it with this newfangled stuff? I don't know. I don't keep up with what you're doing. So, yeah. COVID, co-ed. What are you talking about? Yep. All right. Yeah, keep those things. We've got a ton of open mic groups around us for quarantine comedy and quarantine music. Haven't seen it in fashion shows. Yeah, it's a good idea. You know, I've actually really liked it. I mean, as you guys both know, I've done several posts and I've done some live streams where I've gone through my music collection stuff. Yeah. That's good stuff. And I'd almost like to do that kind of a group setting and go through and with people and share like the actual, the vinyl and let them talk about it. That would be a riot. It'd be a lot of fun to go and do. So, I haven't been enjoying. She's a quarantine music show. Yeah. Well, I've been enjoying that. Several people are doing, was, so, Seb Matthews had, was sharing some of his, the formative years, the albums that shaped his music taste. I was seeing that. Yeah, that was great. So, I was, I commented on one. So, we had, I don't know the album. Was it by ELO? And I went and I'm listening to it. I'm like, man, this one, that came out in 77, 78, 79 when ELO was really big. And that's all the music that I would roller skate to as a kid. So, it was cool. Yeah. I remember it. That's funny. Yes indeed. Yeah. TJ asks, what is the impact of COVID-19 on Microsoft Cloud Services? So, well, there's been an impact. And one of the things that Microsoft came out with, like, two weeks ago when they did the announcement, they basically said that they were slowing down, delaying some new features being released because they were moving resources over to deal with the fact that they had, I don't know what the latest numbers are, but two, three weeks ago it was like an 800% increase. Yeah, massive uptick. And so, and then they had performance issues around that with their services, with their systems. And so, they kind of moved people over to address those issues. And they also provided some throttling capabilities like throughout the workloads. Right. So, yeah, there's definitely been an impact because of that. I've not seen an update on that to know whether some of the throttling is still out there. I'm assuming it's still there. Yeah, you can't bring that much extra capacity online overnight. So, I'm sure they're phasing it in like they typically do. They're just accelerating the schedule. As they do that, they can relax some of the throttle points. But, yeah, massive uptick. Definitely. A lot of people figuring out that they can, in some way, if not completely, work online in a virtual sense these days. So, some more comments from people that need to scroll up. Hey, Ryan, yeah, we've addressed that, the Zoom issue. Yeah, it's all about live streaming. So, yeah, and why, so people have asked a few times, like, well, does Microsoft, are they looking at providing live streaming of Teams meetings and Team live events through the streaming services? And my understanding is that, yeah, they've talked about it, that they're where they want to do it. It's just real, there's no date on it. It's not on the existing roadmap. They know that they're eventually going to offer something around that. But you have to look at the main difference. It's an Apple versus Orange comparison of Teams to Zoom, where Teams does so much more, but it's an enterprise application. So, the primary consumers and users of it are within the enterprise. So, how does Zoom compete within the enterprise? Hi, Heather. Hi, my lovely. The enterprises, they really, they don't compete in the enterprise in the same way. They don't have all that other capability. But for what we're doing, trying to provide an anonymous stream out to Facebook, Teams doesn't do that today. And it's not easily enough for a Christian to grok. Not yet. I failed at it today. I was just saying, Heather, that I know that Darrell Webster has done a bunch of stuff, and he's demoed the stuff. So I need to tap into his brain and figure out how to set it up. It depends on the time of day. It depends on your Wi-Fi. Honestly, I mean, I'm doing the Zoom to Facebook thing. And sometimes it's like, wham, and it connects. And other times it's like, nope. And there's honestly no rhyme or reason to it. But the problem is, though, so I went in and was trying to set up OBS. You need to go set up the scenes for the streams for the scenes for it. And so it was not when I tried to connect through Teams and connect it. So I've been able to live stream with OBS and straight to my desktop over on Facebook. But there was something that's off with Teams. It was not recognizing. Across the streams, I'm telling you. You cross the streams. That's exactly what she said in the book. Well, I mean, it's all kinds of stuff about what are you trying to do? Are you building a community? What's the frequency of your events? Where are you trying to host them? Are you using Encoder? Are you not? Is it a broadcast? One to out? Is it you and a bunch of people that you want to chat with? I mean, you guys know all that. Is it Thursday? What's the thing? Yeah, but I want to wear a wig. Ryan, the second half of your comments is a wig. You're talking about external web confidence. External web conferencing. Yeah, Zoom is the dominant platform today. I mean, a year ago, they weren't. It would go to meeting with still, you know, kind of the bigger player out in the space. I think the coronavirus has really launched them into that. And I would argue that Teams is not in that space. They're just recently with the live events. Microsoft has not even entered that space properly. I mean, they kind of did that when they bought Playsware, we're going all the way back to 2006, 2007. Wow. And had the old live meeting platform when they tried to play in that space. Some of our listeners were diapers, Christian. Well, they tried to shape that into Playsware was the best user experience of the comparative platforms. Like WebEx was the bigger player, but expensive and rudimentary. Playsware was a great product. But anyway, but Microsoft, they bought that extra net solution, external collaboration solution, and then brought it into this enterprise solution. Then they bloated it and broke it and that's a different conversation. They Microsoft it. Yeah, but anyway. You ever see that video, the evolving video if Microsoft had made the iPod? Yeah. The packaging, how it evolved from... That was a Microsoft video. Was it? Yeah. It was done by... It was a shot of them taking care of themselves. Here, let me, I'll go find that. Heather wants you to... Heather, what's latest in your world? Like what kind of questions have you been hearing from folks out in the community that you've been talking to? Oh, goodness. I think it's all about, you know, what should we use for all of these virtual events and meetings? And it depends. It depends on if it's somebody who's dealing, on the personal level, they're just like dealing with their children and homeschooling. Like that's like a lot of the conversations of my friends that are like, ah! And then sort of the business level, it's more, hmm, long-term, what's our strategy gonna be and how are we gonna, you know, sustain our user groups or whatever. And Christian, you and I have been on some of that kind of stuff with our MVP hats on and sort of just trying to figure out what the future is gonna look like. And I think that's really exciting. I find that the thing is, is that people may have rolled out Office 365, they've had Exchange for a while, they've used SharePoint forever, but they may or may not have used Teams. And the thing is, is they may have figured out how to use Teams for chat and setting up a meeting, but not a whole lot else. And so the like imposter syndrome and like the smoke and mirrors of like, do you actually know how to use this? It is really coming out. And it's good in a way because it's like, well, wait a minute, let's talk about this and let's figure out what are the teams you need? What are the channels you need? How can you use this to truly collaborate and not have it just be like a big sprawl like SharePoint was back in the day when we had Team Sites, that's dating me too. But you know what I mean? So I feel like those conversations are happening and that's really exciting. And it is a product, Teams is a product that can scale. It's just that people pretend, I think pretend a little bit that they know how to use it when they actually don't. And I think, I just wish people would stop pretending. Just be like, I don't know how to use this, explain it to me, let's figure it out. And like that's the conversation I love having instead of, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Another person says, oh yeah, yeah to me. I just am like, okay, well, tell me how to do it. And they're like, oh, well, and I'm like, okay, so let's stop that conversation. Talk about your use cases, talk about the business problems you're solving. Look at Teams and also look at the Teams developer platform and our, and also power platform and look at all like, what can we do to automate that? Like we had a situation where we're automating help desk for somebody and it's like, okay, well, how do we use the platform to do that? Well, okay, let's give them an email. Okay, well, sure, let's give them a support email, but what happens to that email? Well, let's give it, give the email address to the Teams. Okay, great, what happens when it comes to the Teams? Well, let's turn on a flow or power automate and have it go and reroute into the SharePoint site where we can triage the list. And everybody can see, you know what I mean? It's like that kind of stuff. It's like, that's possible and it doesn't have to be that hard, but that's a business use case. That's one. But that, think about that replicating out to all kinds of different kinds of business processes, right? Yeah, you gotta understand your end-to-end solution or what you need here. Right, you know, but that requires talking and saying, we've got a problem, let's figure out, if I got a problem, you all solve it and let's solve it together, you know? It's not just IT's problem, it's everybody's problem. You know, when you're trying to automate something and like, that's fun. I think it's fun. Not everybody thinks it's fun, so. You're not one of the people they keep in the server closet and throw food under the door every now and then too. No. Don't throw it under the door. They slide it gently. This is true. Yeah, yeah. TJ also asked a question we addressed earlier about increasing the number of Microsoft Teams participants in a video call. Yeah, I mean, we're hearing all the same. There's no other insider info within the MVP pool. What's the number right now? H1, 2020? No, no. What's the number? Oh, the number, I don't know. Whether it's nine or 12, but it's more than four. Oh, you mean the Brady Bunch look? Yeah, the Brady Bunch. Oh, OK, yeah, yeah. I think it's going to be nine, three by three. Three by three is what I heard. Yeah. But yeah, and what we had talked about earlier was it may be one of the features that has been kind of, you know, deprioritized given all of the other performance, you know, focus on the massive increase in usage of Microsoft services and Teams. And then if you didn't see it, so I did, I did create, or I did show it in the packaging. They're increasing the number from four to nine. Four to nine, yeah. And that's from roadmap.office.com. I just did a search on Teams video. What's the second hit? Yeah, yeah. And I will bring out as well as, and Ryan mentioned it. Microsoft did make the iPod. It's called the Zoom. Yeah. I have one too. Oh, multiple. I've got the, this was the one I wanted. I wanted, and it's great. Susan Lennon gave me this mint. It's the brown Zoom. Oh, yeah. You're special. A little green around it. I just love it. And it's just, it's perfect. What's really funny too is it has on it maybe four songs. So this was a, this is a gen one or gen two. I don't know what it could hold. It was like five. Three more songs? It was like four. My five favorite songs of all time. No, what's funny is that it had like four songs on it and a podcast from Todd Clint. Oh. Wow, what is it? I'm like, Todd, I'm like. You can't say that in public. You're going to swell his head, man. I don't know. I said I deleted it instantly. Come on. It came pre-installed, right? It's still on there, but I don't know what it is. It's, you know, whatever. Todd, pretend you didn't hear that, please. That's funny. I love it. Anyway, hey, everybody, we're at time now. So thanks a lot for participating. Heather, thanks for joining at the end. Sean and Heather. Yeah, hi. Yeah, you're welcome to join every time. It's always at 8 a.m. and 6 p.m. Pacific. I have had meetings both the times from the last bit. So this was the first time I was like, oh my gosh, I think they're on. You're talking to the hand, Heather. It's true. Rude. Just join us. But we'll be back. And I should have everything up on YouTube, so the recording from both sessions, as well as a link list with all of the topics that we cover. So it's great about that. You can go over to buckleyplanet.com and just you can see one of the office hours blog posts for the last five. So this will be. Yeah, you've been doing a nice job summarizing this, Christian. It takes a while to go through two hours of video and. Yeah. Yeah, and I applaud your effort. But providing those out there so you can go and jump to exactly to the conversation. Or you can listen to now all 12 hours of those videos. So that's. What are you using for transcription these days? I don't do the transcription. You're on your own for that. Oh, OK. So you need an alternative to waterboarding. 12 hours of these videos are available. I post it all, Heather. I post everything to YouTube. And so I'll go through finding the links. And so I use the transcription inside of YouTube for that. So. Oh, cool. Right on. All right, you know. All right. Thanks, everybody. Yeah, and TJ, that's why you have to do the earlier one. So it happened at 8 AM Pacific instead of the 6 PM Pacific. So, yeah. Yeah, but thanks for joining TJ and everyone else. Yeah. Yeah. Great way to start your morning listening to this. Well, thanks a lot, everybody. We'll talk to you later. Take care, everyone. Bye-bye. Take care. Bye-bye. Yeah, bye-bye.