 All right so here with Luxembourg animals say this is the first time they've been at the front of this slaughterhouse and all we've really seen this morning is truck loads of carcasses be dragged out of this place. One truck arrived before we did and they're saying no more trucks are coming but slaughterhouses always say that so it's absolutely freezing it was snowing here yesterday. The tourists starting to chip away very exhausted. We've got another flight tonight to Milan so we'll see how this all pans out. We started in Amsterdam went to Copenhagen then we from Copenhagen I think we went to Portugal, Spain it's really hard right now. Are the protestings in Luxembourg or in Europe the same as in Australia because you are a very militant person? Militant. What do you mean by militant? Because you're very rough in the wording and you're very um how may I say a rough in the wording? Yes. You don't think the way that I describe what happens to animals is accurate or do you think it's sensationalized? Maybe I'm not sure. Well because like if I was to say that animals are shot in the head and slashed across the throat and chopped up into pieces that would be an accurate description of how animals are slaughtered. Yes but I read I don't know if it's true that you were telling what are calling butchers nazies? No no no I said um perhaps it's stated in the wrong way. No no no it wasn't butchers what I said is that um this was earlier on in my advocacy about two years ago the media found this post that I made and I said that uh basically I said to cows in the dairy industry dairy farmers are like Nazis okay because they are dairy cows are enslaved by the farmers and exploited and then they are sent to a slaughterhouse and butchered into pieces and through the cow's eyes these people aren't good people okay um you changed your life a bit ago I changed my life yes so I used to have a very harsh past with um gangs and I know I know I read and then I had an epiphany whilst in prison and I decided to change my life around and then I went vegan and when I went vegan I realized that um what was the epiphany exactly? The epiphany was that I'd been making many mistakes and it had led me to this point and I didn't want to be in this situation that I was in any longer and I wanted to change and then I um I always knew that I was hypocritical to care about some animals while I had the piece of another on a plate and I was living with that hypocrisy in my heart and you admit as well a lot of course of course everyone does not not many people don't I mean we're all conditioned by the same culture our family does it uh it's legal we're taught to do it everyone at school eats flesh I mean but no one really has seen a slaughterhouse or watched animals be butchered to death I mean and I think that would turn anyone off of their burger um well most compassionate humans so for me um I realized this hypocrisy I was criticizing my mum about smoking cigarettes you shouldn't be smoking mum you know and then she said there's a lot of things people have a lot of habits people have they don't change and I reflect it inside my heart because it's very human not to change his habits that's true and when I it's in the human nature and when I like it or not it's the truth many people do change and many people can change and I think it's determined by your desire so what motivates you and I was very motivated by my actions not harming others anymore I wanted to change that and when I purchased animal products I was directly harming animals by my choices and I couldn't live with that in my heart knowing that innocent beings that had done nothing wrong to me were being murdered for my steak do you think for testings like this will change something well the save movement is one of the most effective and powerful forms of activism you can do basically uh you are showing your opinion no well there's actual it's not an opinion it's pretty solid I'll so I'll explain to you why so what happens is when the truck stop everyone gets their phones out and shows images of those animals and those images go viral online and people connect the flesh that's on their plate with the animal from which it was torn and people are missing that connection in society they see the farm happy animals on the farm and they see the flesh from farm to plate but the place most of the animals aren't happy in farms because it's mass education they live under very bad circumstances most animals are factory farms where cows are perhaps a bit happy are bill farms well I would suggest that the uh industry promote happy farms but I don't think they are happy but even if they were okay most most animals come from factory farms you're right but even if they were happy animals there's a part in the middle called the slaughterhouse that they don't advertise and with the save movement we can show you the pictures of the animals before they go into the slaughterhouse we can take uh footage and audio of animals being lowered into gas chambers pigs are lowered into gas chambers you can hear them screaming when people see these images worldwide there's many people involved in the save movement worldwide when people see these images it deters their consumption of animal products okay and when there's videos going viral from out the front of these places it creates social change and people change what they buy what do you say to people who doesn't want to stop their consume of consumption of meat somebody who's telling you right in the face perhaps a very sympathetic person I love meat I love meat I don't want to to miss it well I would say that just because you desire something you'll have a pleasure response from an action if that action harms another person or another animal then that's not a moral thing to do if you if everything you do is motivated by your pleasure response I don't think it's a moral way to act you might have someone who derives pleasure from having a sexual act with someone without their permission they're deriving pleasure from the harm of another individual and when I eat the flesh of an animal I'm deriving pleasure from the harm of another individual it's the same concept and I don't think that that's a moral way to act if that were my family member or my dog inside of that slaughterhouse and someone were to say well I love the taste of their flesh and that's why I'll continue to do it I don't think that that's a flesh is another word for meat well you have flesh on your bones I think we use meat as a trick word to distract you from what it actually is it's called a euphemism okay we use meat instead of flesh okay um there are actual body parts from real animals these are dead bodies in there okay and that's not sensational I've been working in the slaughterhouse you've worked in a slaughterhouse so you've seen the dead bodies and the carcasses and the you probably smelt the blood six o'clock in the morning did you didn't make you hungry no see is it food it doesn't look like food when they're hanging half bodies no pigs and or beefs when they're struggling for their last breath inside choking on their own blood I didn't saw the animals I only saw what is at the other side okay well I've seen um animals have their throat slashed open and struggling for their life and you know gargling on their own blood and the fear in their eyes and no animal wants to be butchered in the slaughterhouse it was um a company who works with the meat coming from the slaughterhouse okay that's different that's not a slaughterhouse but it's disgusting most people most good-hearted compassionate human beings if they see what goes on on the kill floor okay you know slaughterhouse workers suffer PTSD from working in slaughterhouses stabbing animals all day and we put those human beings in those conditions so we can have a sandwich with flesh in it I just don't think it's justified for humans to be killing animals all day or for the animals who lose their lives and suffer inside of these places as well okay why did you change your life this way because it's not a change for a hundred percent but it's 200 percent you're doing you're doing just the opposite of what you have been doing before I guess this because you feel guilty for something I guess a part of it was making amends in my life because I spent many years you know I wasn't the best person to be around and I didn't do many good things and I felt like I wanted to make amends for the wrongs I've done in my past and I felt like that the animals had they were so defenseless and they needed someone to speak for them because they can't speak for themselves when human beings are being oppressed they can form a coalition and they can defend themselves or they can protest animals are completely defenseless and helpless they cannot defend themselves and human beings capitalize on that they target them okay and bully them and okay what do you answer to people who are asking you is it good to be the pop star of vegans and animal savings around the world because you're very very good organized on the social medias yeah I don't didn't set out to be a pop star or be well known but as a result of me being well known my message gets out further so it's only positive for the movement and positive to inspire more people to become vegan positive to inspire more vegans to speak up against this it's positive for animals all right so here we are at Luxembourg cube we are pretty exhausted and we're just getting ready to take a flight to Milan but before that we're going to do a cube and I'm going to give these guys a workshop well the pop star of vegans and animal rights activists protest jury protest action jerry carpstrong visits Luxembourg pop star that's ridiculous and then the other documentary we'll describe as the leader of the vegan movement I hate that even more there's no leader of the vegan movement yeah that you know I mean that it's just the media people believe that that I have anything to do with their titles you know what I mean like it's just the way they the media are always sensationalizing stuff I have sensationalized stuff on my own youtube channel understand the power of it but you know pop star is like for an animal rights activist but at least she writes what I told her about that cows only give milk when they had babies which she didn't know at least she writes that that the females are getting milk machines and the males are getting killed that's all right at least something no no problem except there is a big problem with calling me a pop star I just don't like the term pop star except it's like I'm Britney Spears or something like just because I'm well known as an animal rights activist doesn't mean I'm a pop star I mean there's I think it's insulting maybe she can write well no no pop star now not happy at all with that there's many things I've been called and that one there's taking the cake right now I was in gangs I was violent I was on drugs so that's all true but pop star no if like someone who stands for justice and creates social change makes people uncomfortable with their food choices tries to help liberate animals is considered a pop star what's a pop star considered then maybe we'll flash the article up on the screen and see what they really called it yeah I mean it wasn't because I'd demand to be spoken to it it's that I thought that would be more powerful to have an interview in front of a slaughterhouse and pop star is just ridiculing what we stand for really like we stand for justice to animals and we're against animal abuse and animal cruelty how does that make um anyone a pop star I mean just because someone's well known for speaking up against this stuff doesn't mean that they're trying to be a pop star singer like Britney Spears hit me baby one more time no Britney Spears I can sing a better chorus than that couldn't I oh sorry I'm gonna try to make a little meal here quick this is beetroot this is the most vegetables I've had for a while there's a hundred grams of proctofi there just break it up that's dinner let's have a little taste test now what you do what you've got to do on the big jobs if it were you in the animal's position would you want someone to help you think about that I think about that all the time of course I would that was me in the back of that truck I would want you up here speaking for me as well or out there on the streets standing in the cold speaking to people by those screens uh Tina her husband actually work in the military here but she gave me an Abdullah some goodies look at this these looks like some biscuits vegan goodies this is uh some dried pineapple more biscuits oh these are day uh looks like macaroni and cheese bananas they look a little bit too healthy for this bag oh these are these biscoff biscuits apparently they're really good dates chocolate these are one of the best chocolate bars you can get um veggie bars oh look vegan mouthwash in the bottom here we got some vegan gummy bears and some more dried fruit what are these little things I don't oh that yeah they're chocolates do they're like look no these are caramels vegan caramels you can definitely um trust that everything is vegan in this bag because this girl it's a really good activist the really amazing activist she gets a lot of good footage so yeah thank you so much Tina we really appreciate that are you a very special puppy you are oh my god is your tail wagging look at that