 I am coming. Coming. Good morning, sir. Good afternoon. Sorry, sir. Thank you, sir. So, how are you, Vikas? I am fine, sir. I am fine, sir. From Sikar? Yes, sir. What is happening in your Rastan? Sir, some communal class yesterday on Jodhpur. Why? People don't want to leave peacefully? Sir, they are. But it may be some religious, political event, maybe. And it is in the constituency of your chief minister? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So, which political parties do you think are involved? Sir, it's not about political parties, but at local level there are some fringe elements who may create this kind of situation, sir. It's very bad. All these things happening there also and different places also happening. Yes, sir. On the Eid, it's very bad, sir. So, what measures the government has taken? It's a low-end order situation and the ADG of Rastan Police is sent there and he controls the situation. Initially, it happened on the night of 2nd, but on 3rd, it was basically between police and some protesters. So, now it's a low-end order situation and it's under control. You served for four years in ITBP? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Three years in bank? Yes, sir. Leaving that now you want to go in civil services? Yes, sir. That also, Group B also here adopted? Yes, sir. Why? Sir, I have to opt all the services because one cannot take chance for B services. And for the civil services, I already had a dream about serving in civil services. So, these all jobs which are like SBI and assistant commandant, what's part of that plan, sir? So, ascent commandant is not a sales place? But sir, the domain is very limited, sir. But ascent commandant is a Group A service, isn't it? Yes, sir. But in this civil services, you are opted for leaving the Group A, you are opted for Group B also. Yes, sir. Group B is the same, DSP and all. Yes, sir. Why so? Sir, domain is very large in even Group B, DENIX and DENIX services also, sir. Because in ITBP, you have to just be part of a certain kind of job profile. But in DENIX and DENIX, you have to move to different places and serve in different capacities. Here also, ITBP also go to different places? Sir, particularly the Indochina border, sir, only. Only Indochina border? Yes, sir. There are some internal security duties also, but they are limited in ITBP, sir. Okay. Tell me what is common among these three service chiefs? Sir, they are from the same NDA batch, sir. So, how it will help? Sir, there will be synergy between these service chiefs because now we are moving towards theatre command structure. We are thinking about moving to theatre command structure. So, if they are of the same batch, have a synergy and we can see that in the parade, all the three chiefs were present for the army chief. Okay. Now, we will be having new parliament building. Yes, sir. Where? Centre Vista project, sir. So, how it will be different from the old one? Sorry, sir, I am not aware about it. More capacity? Yes, sir. Shape also different? Yes, sir. More than that, they will be putting some emblem also. Oh, right. You heard about that? No, sir. What is that emblem? Sir, I am not. What is our emblem? Sir, four lines and certain object. What else is there in that emblem, other than lines? The wheel with 24 spokes. That's all. And animals, sir? What kind of animals? Sir, as far as I remember, one deer and one tiger, I guess. So, I am not sure about it. Not sure about it. Okay. Sir, just tell me, we have been, there have been talks that Russia trade will stop and that will become poplar, sanctions are there because they are exporting a lot of things. What Russia is importing from our place? What exports of India are going to Russia? Sir, sorry, sir, I am not aware. I am just aware that Indian pharmaceutical companies are there, sir. One is pharma products, sir. Any other thing, Major? Sir, the defense trade is a major component. Defenses? We are importing only, sir. I am talking about export, our export. Sir, I am not aware, sir. Okay. And what is our export target this year? Last year, we were very happy that we achieved this much. Yes, sir. This year is how much? Sorry, sir, I am not aware. Okay. You stayed in Delhi for some time? No. Yes, sir, as part of SBI and as part of ITVP sports. We have three garbage dumps here, big garbage dumps. Yes, sir. Do you know what are those names? Names? I am not aware, but I have seen some of them. Where you have seen? On the Delhi Noda border, sir. On the Delhi Noda border. And one towards the Delhi Haryana border. And the third I have not seen, sir. Okay. Because? Yes, sir. You are from Sikha district? Yes, sir. I have now been to Sikha district. Sir. What should I, if I have to go to Sikhar, what should I see? Sir, there is a famous temple of Sri Krishna, Khatushamji temple. Sir, you must visit there. Apart from this, we have a number of Havelis there in Lakshman guide as well as in Fatehpur. So, sir, you must visit them, sir. Rajasthan had recently made some amendments with respect to marriageable age. Sorry, sir. There was a law passed on marriageable age. You are familiar with this? No, sir. Government of India is thinking about it, but I am not aware about transplants. Rajasthan issue. Okay. One of the keywords which I see in your daff is Ubuntu. Yes, sir. What is Ubuntu? Sir, it is a South African word, sir. It means coming together, people coming together. Basically, it is an operating system. It is a Linux-based operating system. Ubuntu and Linux are the same or it is different? Sir, it is a flavor of a Linux system. Like a version? Like a version. So, in Linux, we call it a flavor. There are a number of flavors like Open Solaris, Open Suci and a number of these, sir. So, how come Ubuntu and Linux never picked up compared to Microsoft and Mac operating systems? Sir, earlier the GUI of these graphical user interface of these operating systems were very rudimentary and you have to work in those like environment. So, people were not aware about these systems and no particular big company is installing these operating systems in their computer. Basically, the Dell is doing it. Apart from these, no company were doing this. So, what is the current status of the operating system? Has it been changed? Yes, sir. Definitely. After 2010, the GUI of these operating systems, basically all the Linux systems have changed so much that it is now comparable to the Windows system. And even Windows is using the drivers from this operating system, sir. Okay. Open source drivers. You are familiar with Mac operating system also? Yes, sir. How is it different from Linux and Ubuntu operating system? Sir, Mac operating system is a version of Unix. We can classify it as Unix. It is a proprietary and other things are same because the commands of these Mac as well as the Linux are almost same. There are some variations. Okay. You are currently employed with ITBP? Sir, I resigned last year, sir. You resigned last year. What was one of the most challenging experience you had while working with ITBP and how did you deal with that? Sir, during this ongoing conflict with China on Southern Bank of Penguinsu, I was the post commander of that post, sir. So, first of all, that meant power at that time because we never thought that this kind of thing can happen. So, the meant power, I was having very less. So, on the intervening night of 29th and 30th of August, when this happened, I was having only 40 to 45 personnel. So, and fighting strength was 40 for me. And then, on the other hand, the PLA has around 250 plus personnel. So, I have to plan where I have to put my weapons because there are some support weapons with me like MMGs. So, I had to plan where all I have to put them. So, that was the biggest challenge and then we have managed that and we ensure that we should not create such a situation like Galwan. Because in Galwan, we lost life of our men. Here, because I was having less strength, I didn't go for face-off and try to provoke them. I technically handled the situation by putting my arms and I asked my seniors that if they told me that if only they cross the LSE, then only I should fire. Without that, I shouldn't do anything. What is the current status of that borderline? Sir, on the southern bank of Pangongso, there is a disengagement on Pangongso. But on the Debsan plain, disengagement yet to be happened and there are a number of meetings, 15 meetings are there, BPM meetings are there. So, still we are not basically de-escalated the situation. So, forces are backed off but still they are heavy deployment of there. As a student of political science, how do you think we should deal with China? Sir, for this, there should be two options. There should be two plans. First, internal balancing by increasing our economy and through economy strengthening our military power also. And external balancing, second option is the second part is external balancing where we have to take support of like-minded countries and create alliances or security platforms like Quad so that we can handle this Chinese situation. How has the positions of India and China changed internationally after the Ukraine-Russia crisis? Sir, India's situation, basically we have shown that we have strategic autonomy. And with China, they showed that they will go for their own interest by supporting Russia or not trying to hold the Russia's aggressions. Okay. One of your hobbies is photography. Yes, sir. What do you photograph? Sir, the natural thing, sir. So, what devices do you use? Sir, I have a DSLR, Nikon D700. So, what restrictions to photography are there in border regions? Sir, the most important restrictions are that some areas are out of bounds for the photography. Because I was on a playground, so it was very picturesque and very natural. But you can't take a photo. But I can't take the photo, sir. Even as an ITVP officer, you cannot take a photo. Yes, sir, because then I have to take that in my computer and I cannot have that on my personal equipment, sir. Okay. Reading non-fictional books. What is the last book that you have read? Sir, Class of Civilization by Samuel P. Huntington. Okay. Can you tell me some key takeaways from Class of Civilization? Sir, the- Is it still relevant? That's the question. Sir, this book was written in 1996 on a paper of 1992. So, the author tried to show that the now conflicts in the world will be based on civilizational conflicts. So, he divided into different civilizations and then showed the conflicts. And about current relevance, he, the author, wrote in that book that there will be a fight in Ukraine and Russia will try to divide the Ukraine into two parts. Why? Because Ukraine itself is divided into two civilizations. The eastern part, which is Russian-speaking part, and is having an orthodox Christian religion or civilization. And the western part, which is having western civilization. So, it is bound to be divided. So, yes, sir. I think there is some relevance in this theory, sir. You have already worked in police. Yes. Why not fill IPS as the first option? I think you could have done better over there. Sir, first, I always have dreamed for Indian administration services. Apart from this, sir, for me, because I worked in this field as well as in SBI, as well as in IT, I thought that I should have something which is, which give me broader horizon. That is why I selected IES. Okay. So, you are not working anywhere right now? Yes, sir. Okay. All right. Joint conference of Chief Justices and Chief Minister was held. Yes, sir. Did you follow that? Yes, sir. So, what thought came on discussion? Yes, sir. On the honorable Chief Justice, what he said that, see, there is a first of all infrastructure lag is there because of which there is a number of litigations. And he also talked about the government as a biggest litigant. Apart from this, CJI pointed out that the PIL, the public interest litigation, become personal interest litigation. So, we should create such kind of harmony, such kind of judicial system where the justice should be given to everybody, sir. Okay. Do you think the Supreme Court often crosses the Lakshman Rehka, which was also talked about? Sir, there are different views on this. There is one concept of judicial activism and other as a judicial overage. In my opinion, judicial activism like PIL is good. Judicial overage like appointing a lokiyut of a state, it should be, the Supreme Court should have a stand on that person. Do you think it is right for the judiciary to step in when the legislature and executive fails? Ideally, if the legislature and executive is failing, they will go for elections and public will vote them out. Why should judiciary step in? Sir, because a judiciary is given the role of protecting the constitution of India and the sovereignty of India. So, sometimes when the aspiration of people are not able to be translated through executive or legislature, then judiciary should come into pictures. Okay, all right. How has been PM's visit to Denmark and Germany till now? Sir, it was good because we are going for green energy with the Denmark. However, the Denmark's Prime Minister's statement yesterday that India should try to stop Russia from war in Ukraine. So, I think we have to take it like we have to take the balanced view for this that everybody is playing its geopolitical goals. Okay. What is the composition of Nordic countries and Scandinavian countries? Sir, I am not aware, sir. Okay. India also has some Nordic conference also. Sir, we are part of Arctic Council Observatory status. Okay, all right. Which non-fictional books have you read recently? Sir, one, as I told earlier, is MLP Huntington's Clash of Civilization. Other is Why Nations Fail. One other book I just completed was Rachel Carson's Silent Spring. What is that book about? Sir, that is the first book which talked about the environmental degradation because of this pesticide use. So, this book can be considered as the first literary evidence that the people are talking about the environmental degradation. It was written in around 1962, sir. Okay. And what are they in the environmental degradation because of pesticides? Sir, basically, see, last year we have seen the locus attack, this kind of thing. Then we have, see, some food grade shortage and the, you know, the poison in the food items just because of this pesticide, sir. Okay. What all places did you serve in ITPP? Sir, I was posted in Delhi, in Jammu and Leh. Okay. Delhi in the headquarters? Yes, sir. What was your role? Sir, I was working in the intelligence department, sir. Okay. So, ITPP also has its own intelligence? Yes, sir. Okay. And they'll focus on the Indochina thing? Yes, sir. And what all other agencies do they work with? Sir, IB, NIA, as well as the ROPE. NIA also? Yes, sir. Why? Sir, there are some links because we are training and everything, sir. Okay. Or internal security also we are working with them, sir. Okay, okay. You also do photography? Yes, sir. So, like Facebook and Instagram has actually fueled discontent among the youth? Sir, in some aspects, yes, because it's a platform for spreading the propaganda. So, this may have fueled some discontent. However, it is also a part of expressing yourself and then this influencer and the people are starting earning money from this also, sir. Okay. What is the role of aperture and photography? So, it's all about, sir, photography, it's all about light. With aperture, we can control the light, what light will be their own sensor, sir. Okay. And does having more megapixels lead to better picture quality? Sir, when we print something, it's megapixel is a number of pixels per square centimeter, also inch, I am not sure, sir. So, if mere megapixels are there, there will be better picture. However, the size of sensor is also important. For example, in mobiles, we have 50 megapixels of camera. However, with DSLR of having 18 or 20 megapixel, we are having good picture if you print it. So, what happens that the sensor size is also important because it will compress the photo. Okay. Thank you. You just shared a plan that how India should deal with China. Yes, sir. Okay. So, where do we stand on the plan which you shared? First of all, in economic terms, we are moving towards the 5 trillion economy. Earlier, it was slated for 2025, but now as I am a projected, we can be achieving it by 2029 fiscal year. And on the military front, we are now having a serious chief of defense staff, and now we are moving towards basically this theater command concept also. In terms of external balancing, we are working with the like-minded countries like USA, Australia, Inquad, and also through supply chain initiative. You are from Sikar. Yes. What are the major issues in the district? The major issue is of child sex ratio. So, we are having some issues. In some areas, there is a issue of drinking water. Drinking water. And how do you think this issue, child sex issue, can be addressed? Well, there is first important part is awareness, because what happens that people are not aware that what negative impact this will have on the society and even on their family. So, child sex ratio is mostly about awareness and then strictly following the rule and implementing in later in the spirit. Like what kind of rule? Basically, we have laws for that, female infanticide load, PCP and DTV laws we have. So, we have to implement them in later in the spirit. So, what is stopping the administration in implementing them? Then earlier it was the case, the child sex ratio of Triple 8 was part of 2011 census. However, in now an FHS-5 data said that we have the child sex ratio is improved a lot. It is like around 1918 or something. So, we are improving on that. Yes, earlier we had problems, but now the things are changing now. So, why is Rajasthan hub for solar power? Ma'am, because we have lot of empty land there. So, because in solar power we need lots of lot of sun as well as lot of empty land so that we can put large solar power plants. Is land availability the only reason or is there any other factor? Ma'am, geographically we are also in such location that we can get solar light. Solar light, availability of land. Anything, any support from government side, any infrastructure which is required? Ma'am, we have different schemes like Koshum scheme which is implemented in Rajasthan hub. Okay. Which is the most advanced country in the world in IT sector? Ma'am, United States of America. Okay. And why do you think that it is the most advanced country? What they are doing so differently that they are always ahead of time? Ma'am, they are center of excellence in IT sector is Silicon Valley and it was ahead because the number of colleges, the universities there, public funded universities there are very good for example, Stanford University and MIT. So, they fuel number of good students there and they start their own startups like Google and everything was early startup only. So, now even our honorable prime minister and the government is focusing a lot on the IT sector in India. And there's a huge gap if you see between the most advanced country and us. So, how do you think that we can expedite the process and what all needs to be done? Ma'am, our focus should be on startups. Basically what happens that people have ideas but they could not get the funds for their ideas. So, the startup ecosystem should be made such that we have good IT sector. In this we have to focus on basically is doing business like getting the registration, like enforcement of contract or the availability of electricity. No, I didn't get you. You are saying startup, how will startup help you? How will it accelerate the growth of IT? Ma'am, what happens that we have only few number of big IT companies like Infosys, like TCS. If we have to expand, we have to make number of companies. For example, how US IT industry developed. First, Google came up, then Apple came up. But you just said that before that there are good colleges. You started with colleges and universities that they are all government funded and they are very good colleges. So, don't you think that before startups or before having the companies, the emphasis should be on creating some kind of research centering, cubation centering the colleges and universities? When it is already in place, for last 7-8 years it is already in place. At a tinkering labs is there and the ecosystem is also over. Is it sufficient? Yes ma'am, I think it is working progress and in future we will be seeing good results. Fine. What is the latest happening in IT sector? Any new development, new technologies? Now the time is of industrial revolution 4.0, where the things are based on artificial intelligence and internet of things and deep learning. PM is on Dribble, Mr. Modi is supposed to visit Nepal. Are you aware of it? No ma'am, sir. Okay. And what is your view on China and India relationship after this Russia and Ukraine war? I mean my view the aggression of China will increase. Because the Russia-Ukrainian war has shown the world that West is not capable enough right now to intervene in such kind of aggression. What about India and China? I am asking about their relationship. Ma'am, the aggression of China will increase in terms of India's borders. Fine. Thank you. Okay, because your interview is over. Thank you sir. You have done quite well. Good, very good energy. Thanks. At this time, just maintain eye contact with other members. Sir. When you are responding to one, maintain eye contact. Keep on reading. I think I don't have any. I think smiling face, good energy. Some answers were too quick. Things like maybe I don't know initially just take knowledgeable, good posture, moving on confidently. Overall it was a great experience. Make sure you bring an opportunity to talk about this ITBB experience in the bottom. That will work in your favor. Sir, I also gave one more interview. In that I was given this suggestion that you should not bring it to ITBB. I think it's something that very few people have opportunity to solve. They will definitely ask. Once it comes to ITBB day last, that China problem also. How you handled that experience? I think that is a very good experience that you can show. Other 1800 candidates won't have it. That's why you are running away. You have to face difficulties there. That's why you resigned. That also prepare for that. Overall you are very energetic, very knowledgeable. You have a very interesting time. I don't have anything to say at such. You will do well. Except for one or two places, I think that you spoke little fast. It was difficult to catch up with your speed also and energy also at some places. That is the only feedback I have except that some of the answers were closed very abruptly. Immediately it was a very abrupt closure. I think that's it. Otherwise very nice.