 Today, May 40 here. I'm listening to Mark Shapiro lecture and Makes the point that Italians just have a very different attitude towards the body even Jewish Italians Okay, so putting photos of boys urinating is not a major trend in Jewish holy box, right? Only happens with the Italian versions Okay, so the main point is that Italians tend to have very different attitude towards nudity than other Jews, so I Had a friend who was an orthodox Jewish nudist, but that's exceedingly exceedingly rare That's not how Jews typically roll Right, you'd be hard pressed to think of anything more Non-Jewish then public nudity, right? That's a Greek thing and the other cultures do it So the Catholics have their justification All right, they're Christian justifications were paintings of the nude body, but very rare thing in Jewish holy works such as prayer box But with the exception with Italian Jews Okay, so this forum means holy holy books in Judaism All right, that's Mark Shapiro there from Toran motion and This is his March 14 talk the rise of reform and the rabbinic response