 That's what I mean. That's what I like, Kiani. You know? Now that's the issue. He shows the hashtag as rock to white, two-five-four. First, actually, he's a singer. He's a guitarist. He's a scientist. He's a programmer. And he actually calls himself a wizard. He's a possible wizard. I don't know how it's... I've just told guys about you and everything, but I didn't tell them your name. So kindly go ahead and reintroduce yourself and tell the guys at home your name. That would be interesting. Yo, yo, government name. It's George Gashiri. You know, my stage name is hybrid intuition. You know? You know, because it's all about art and science and how you can mesh the two together and create some artistic pieces that can access different people. Right. So, yeah, I mean, you know, I'm an actuary. That's... Initially, my name was hybrid actuary. Then a lot of my actuarial buddies told me, nah, nah, nah, nobody cares about actuary. You know, they chomai you guy. So you had to switch it out. Hybrid intuition. What does that actually mean? So, yeah, that's a good question. Yeah. Intuition is just your sixth sense, right? And that's how I approach playing the guitar. So, you know, when I learned how to play the guitar, it was, you know, the first guitar teacher who I met was a guy from Bombasa. And then he just taught me patterns, right? So I didn't really go into the theory of music. So, you know, he was always telling me, you know, be intuitive. Just go with the flow. Yeah. And then, you know, trust your intuition, trust your gut. And that's how I actually play the guitar. It's like, I understand music theory, but it's mostly I go with the feel, you know, the vibe. So I wanted the name to match my abilities, you know. My energy, exactly. And that's what you're all about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. So, just give us a little bit, just a little bit background about you. You, as an artist now, you as a musician, just give us a little bit of, a background and how you actually got into, you know, music, because you are seeing not just a guitarist. So tell us about all that. We really know everything. Tell us everything. Okay, cool, cool. So yeah, I mean, as a kid growing up, I remember, you know, I used to listen to rock music, actually. You know, I remember, you know, whenever I used to cry, my mom used to play some rock tunes, then I would stop crying. So, so from the get from the jump, I've always been a rocker. And then, you know, when I went to primary school, I started listening to a lot of hip-hop, so a lot of my buddies were rappers. You know, then when I went to high school, that's when I met one of my buddies, Alvin. Alvin Mwangi. Yeah. Shout out to Alvin. Shout out to Alvin. Yeah. Chapel Cop. You know, I went to Alliance. But anyway. Oh. It's usually a meme. Do you know, I went hashtag. But you did. You have to throw it in there. Yeah, you have to. Yeah, you have to. Rep your crew. Yeah. Rep your crew. Bush life. But yeah, so anyway. My buddy Alvin Mwangi was the Chapel Cop. And he had a guitar. Yeah. Remember, he taught me my first song, which was Creed One Last Breath. Yeah. I think I've forgotten how to play it. You know, I can't decide now. Yeah. Yeah, I'm no longer. I'm no longer holding my breath. Yeah. So, so what happened is, yeah, that's where my love for the guitar began. Yeah. Then when I left high school, I met Alvin. Alvin was now working in a cyber cafe. Remember when we used to have, you know, a cyber cafe. I used to love music. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he introduced me to some instrumental guitarists, guys like Joe Satriani. Yes, Satriani. You know, people like Steve Vai, people like Yigwe Malmsteen, Paul Gill, but those kind of guys, technical guitarists. So, and I really liked, especially I watched a video on YouTube with Joe Satriani. He was playing searching in Tokyo, G3. And it was so good. I was like, yeah, I'm going to keep on playing the guitar. Yeah. So, you know, that's, that's what made me continue down the path. Then I got a jazz guitar teacher. And the jazz guitar teacher, you know, is actually who woke me up. He's called Morris. Ah. Yeah. So he taught me just some jazz stuff, because I was like, hey, I just want to play metal, man. I want to play some guitar solo. Yeah. Then he was like, hey, okay, let me teach you. So he used to give me a guitar, you know, technique. Then he walks out of the room for like 20 minutes. So I'm just over there, like, you know, just playing and playing and playing. And then you got the hang of it. You got the hang of it. Yeah. But funny enough, it took me like two weeks to learn a C chord. You know, the C, the C chord. Yeah, you got it. Yeah. Which you can learn very easily. Yeah, yeah. It took me a while. And I was playing the guitar, I was holding it like this. It's like, hey, calm down. Relax. Then I'm like, hey, I don't know, go forward. You know, this hand should be like this. You know. So he taught me to be just calm and to play with presents. Easy vibes. Yes. That's interesting. Pretty much. Quite an interesting story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. From Alliance, all the way to where we are. Right now. Can you just maybe tell us about your creative process? How is that? Like, how do you come up with new stuff and do you actually write your own lyrics? Oh, yeah, yeah. So I do everything by myself. Right. And how I come up with stuff, you know, to be honest, how I do it is like, for example, I'll take the guitar. Mm-hmm. Then I'll be like, okay, let's, and then just noodling on the guitar. Mm-hmm. Then your fingers somehow know what to press. Yeah. Then it creates something weird and you're like, hey, what's that? And then you go back to it and then you build something on top of it. Yeah. For those guys who don't understand this terminology, noodling on the guitar is just like playing around, fiddling, just playing around. Randomly. That's noodling. Yeah. We have a guitar whisperer. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is how you get schooled, you know. This is how you get schooled. Very interesting. He's like very happy because he's actually our music teacher. Yeah. So today, you know, we have a guitarist. He's a guitarist dad. He actually wears tees with that. Guitarist dad are cooler. Now, just like normal dad, but they are cooler. They are cooler. Much cooler, you get? Yeah. He actually says that a lot. Now, good. Now, being a guitarist, you can either do solo or be in a band. So how does that work out for you? Are you in a band at the moment? Do you have solo projects? Which bands have you played for? You know? Yes. So, yeah. Actually, the first band that I played for was Daft Slim. Yeah. Back then, yeah. Daft Slim, Saidimu Shoutout, you know. Yeah. You know, A1V and Gillian back in the day, you know, there was, yeah. So, that was the first band I played for. Then I left it. Then I joined Kanyeki. Yeah. You know, where I joined as the rhythm guitarist. Yeah. Just replaced somebody over here. Yeah. So, maybe in Hewskills, you know, in the same band. Yeah. I left it there. You know, and then now, you know, while I left Old Mute, when I left, where I was Walking. Where I was walking, you know, that's when I decided to now pursue music and to work on my album, my very first solo album. So, you know, how I went about it is, you know, you just come home after work in the evening, get your guitar out, noodle, as you've been told. And then, through that process, come up with tracks and come up with songs. And then, that's when I was able to make my very first album, which is an instrumental album with 15 tracks. Yeah. It came out four years ago, actually. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, as of now, as of now, I'm just doing solo mission. Yeah. Yeah. And then, with Rich, yes, there's always Sama in Africa, you know, there's a time I was also playing with Rich at Sula. Oh, you said, Absoulos around? Yeah. Sula, Colasso, Jessica Colasso. He has played for so many people, and that is so interesting. Even when Zaynab Sula was here, you know, he played for how and stage as well, yeah. That was really fun to see, I could book. Yeah. Yeah. 20 more days. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So, how often do you practice? Because, you know, I'm told, like, if you don't do it often, you rashed or something. Yeah. So, how often do you do that? Yeah, I'll be honest. So, when I started playing the guitar, I used to practice for around five to seven hours a day. What? So, yeah, it was pretty intense. I remember I was getting cuts on my fingers, you know, but then that stopped around like six years ago. That is, I don't practice that much. Oh, and I... And I should be practicing, actually. I live and call myself... Sensorial love. Sensorial love. I should be practicing, but in all honesty, I've not been practicing. Right. So, how do you think, like, being 20, 20, and there's a lot happening on social media and everything, how do you think social media has impacted the level of musicians like you? Like, you know, before you come up with something and you have to either go on a radio station or come here to launch it, I mean, I think it's huge. I think social media is the great equalizer that we have. Right. And what does that mean? It means that now, people can put out their content. Like, you have YouTube, you have Instagram, you have, you know, you have TikTok, you know, you have Twitter. And so, what that does is that it puts you on this platform where you have access to so many other people who would have never had access to your music or your content. Then you get feedback from the market. You know, if you're actually good if you need to improve, you know, that in itself is content. Like, you don't have to wait to be an amazing guitarist for you to put out content. So I think, you know, I think social media has really helped in terms of just putting the artist fast and making you have access to a large audience and then doing collaborations. Yeah, building your... Like, Rich and Max did a thing, you know, on YouTube channel. Yeah, she's not even Kenya, you know, so, he's Mexican, right? I think it's, yeah, yeah, yeah. Latin vibes. Yeah. Latin. So, you know, and just being able to mash the two together and do something great, this is like the power of social media, you know, and speaking of social media and practicing, how, you know, okay, we're going to talk about COVID, you know, how it's actually affected so many people, but then that also means you've had enough time. So how has quarantine been for you? Like, have you learned because, since you've been, he's actually been putting a lot of work on YouTube and you actually love that. So, what new skills have you learned? So, I mean, yeah, technique wise, you know, there's, you know, there's always the sweet picking. So, just having different ways of tapping into the same techniques which I do. So for example, if you're playing an arpeggio, you know, you can have on five strings, you know, so those are the kind of things which I've been learning, just the new ones of the guitar, even note selection, because, you know, as instrumentalists, you get boxed into your own pattern of playing. So, you know, you can predict the next note you're going to play. So what if you decide to play a different note, how are you going to react to that, you know, especially in real time. So that's what I've been learning. I've been learning more improvisation, also just also on management, managing my YouTube channel and I've done that for you. That's tremendous. No, just generally, what do you think makes a great guitarist? If someone is out there and they want to get into that, what should they what should they consider? Yes. And who are some of your influences, actually? Nice. In this field, in the rock industry. Locally. So yeah, I mean, I can start off with the influences. So my rock influences, I would say, you know, guys like Michelangelo Batio, guitarists who play very fast. And I also like guitarists who play with nuance and very slowly. Like I can be inspired by any type of guitarist, but traditionally I'm more of a technique-based speed, power, and melody and all that. So Michelangelo Batio, you know, obviously my guitar teacher, Maurice, the guy who taught me how to play guitar. I think he's in Mombasa right now, doing something, I don't know. And yeah, so guys like Satriani, even Benjamin Kabaseke, shout out to a Kenyan guitarist, who I think is a beast. Yeah, Benjamin is a monster. I remember seeing his YouTube videos and I'm like, these guys are crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. You know, and yeah, so those are Amo, you know. Yeah, that's the groove. Amo is another guy, you know, another guy. Yeah, a crazy mad guy. Yeah. Really cool dude. So I think he's awesome. Sinister Gates is my main motivation as to why I started playing the guitar. I remember listening to the guitar solo for Bad Country and I was like, this guy is assaulting that instrument. Yeah. So I need to learn how to play. Yeah, exactly. That solo. That solo. You know. Right. And actually, another thing I wanted to know, definitely, you being in different bands, like you've mentioned, let me say a band called Hano, and you're not just a guitarist, you are a singer as well. So are you more comfortable being a guitarist or do you rather be a laid singer? You know, to be honest, I prefer being a guitarist because you know the guitar is in tune. So the tune is there. So the only mistake you can make is hitting the wrong note and even then you can quickly do a crowd. The girls are sensitive. And remember when I was on stage with Rich singing, I'm like, Rich is over there doing some aggressive stuff. I'm like, maintain one note. It's like you're in choir. So I'm more comfortable playing the guitar. You rather be a guitarist. Yeah. But I'm warming up towards singing. I would love to see that. Would you like that? Yeah, he knows. You're just waiting. That's why I'm not talking. That's why I'm not talking. Some of us are just like, you just do it, bro. You just do it. But I'm really looking forward to that. I'll definitely want to see that. Yeah. Now, so what do you think is actually limiting eyes? Like the guys in the boxing and in Kenya, especially guitarists, what is the main challenge with guitarists? So just like artists are facing right now. That's a complex question. Yeah. I think the first one is content. I think it all starts with the artist. And as we said earlier, you have social media. So if you're a guitarist, just put out content. Even a 10 second thing, you know, you're just trying something. Yeah. So that way, you know, the entire ecosystem of the rock scene is going to have a portfolio. It's going to have a portfolio. Exactly. Which is something on which we need it. Exactly. Big time. I've actually been seeing that. Him, shout out to you. And Jay of Crystal Axis has actually been doing that a lot. Yeah. And will you? Will you? I've been seeing a lot of content. They've been putting a lot of content on social media. So that's one of the things, putting out a lot of content. And then two, I think also doing collaborations here. And I think, yeah, I think, yeah, yeah. Especially the local fraternity. Yeah. Yeah. You can do like a rock cover of Washington and Ikerite. Yeah. Yeah. What you've been doing, actually, so Tamil. Yeah. And speaking of that, do you know he actually did a cover of Chris Keiger? Zimanize. Zimanize. Yeah. It's actually on YouTube. You can also check it out. He's not just talking about things he's not doing. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. He's talking, he's talking the walk. The walk, yeah. All right. So I don't know, for guitar maintenance, is there anything for anyone who owns a guitar? Is there a specific way you're supposed to maintain it? Yes. What are those? Maybe some pointers. Yeah, so you know, you have the guitar, you have the guitar oil to clean the frets. Okay, this is the first time I'm hearing that. So there's that. You always need to change your guitar strings. What's the period? Is it three weeks? Three months. Okay, maybe three months. Yeah. That is for, you know, I play electric and bass. So for electric, it's three months. Yeah. It's just sometimes the bass strings are expensive, man, they're damn expensive. Exactly. And they also, they have long life, depending on what you buy. But for guitar strings, because of which I find all that, yeah, three months is done. Yeah. Then also, yeah, just making sure that you know, you're checking the guitar if there are any cracks anywhere. Yeah, yeah. Treating like a baby. Treating like a baby. How you store it. Don't just come up to a gig. To buy it there. You know, rock star energy. You're smashing the guitar but you'll have to buy another one. Yeah. That's the truth. No, I'm asking. Like, you know, the industry, we need the industry to grow. Yes. We can't be where we were last year despite COVID, right? Yeah. So, if you had a chance, you was done. Oh, okay. Let me call him hybrid intuition. Yeah. Now, you as hybrid, you have a chance to change the industry. What would you do differently or what would you want to see change or be done in the industry? Yeah. I think, I think the one thing that would, would be cool. I think, in an Instagram video I watched today, actually. Yeah. She's talking about having rock shows, having rock concerts, right? Really shedding a light onto the rock scene in Kenya. Yeah. Because what usually happens is that you have a very small, you know, time slot for rock music. It's not that mainstream. Yeah, yeah. You know, radio stations, you don't see it in media, you don't see. So, if you can have festivals where you can have those kind of artists, you know, like you have people and that's one of the things which I think. Oh, I didn't know she don't get about that. I saw it today by the, before saying, yeah, she was talking about rock. She's like, yeah, yeah, you know, you should be shedding a light on the rock scene and showing the talent, which is what you get. Yeah, exactly. We are trying, but that's nice. Coming from somebody like Madonna was in the mainstream. That's really heavy. That's a big up. Big up. Yeah. All right. That's actually very interesting. And so I want to know what's next for you and remind guys your social media as well. Yeah. Your music and you personally. Yeah. So what's next for me is I'm working on my second album and I'll be singing on that one. I think Antu will release it next year. Oh, okay. Got a willing. Maybe 2021 or 2022. We can wait. We can wait. Yeah, you know, then yeah, you know, then I'll be, I'll be traveling, you know, as I told you, okay, it's not my place to stay. So I'm just going to let you stay. Yeah. So I'll be, I'll be relocating to a, to a different location. Yeah. I'll be, I'll be living the country actually in a couple of days for, for work, for actuarial things. Yeah. So, but still we're going to keep the rock energy alive. You know, social media. You have a place and you're going to, you're going to represent it for wherever you'll be. Yeah. You know, you know, you're going to represent it exactly. Yeah. That's the right way to think. Yeah. So, yeah, your social media, well, people find your music, we even buy your music and you as well. You know, yeah, you can find me on hybrid intuition. That's on Instagram. That's on Twitter. That is on Facebook. That's on YouTube. Even on Tiktok. I have like six videos on Tiktok. I'm not doing the dances, but I'm playing the guitar. Maybe I'll do a cadance and then play the guitar at the same time. We'll see what happens. We'll get them on band camp and hybrid intuition as well. All right. Yeah. Cool. So, that was amazing. Hybrid intuition, guys. Make sure you do follow, follow, follow him for more awesome content. Now, he's going to be playing for us. Now, before we go, I want to tell you what we're playing on our top five at five before he plays for us because he has to play for us. Now, on our top five at five, we have very interesting jumps, just new jumps that just came out. This is the newest release, actually. It's called Healing and it's an original, yeah, by hybrid intuition. The second song is by a band called Prevail. The song is Every Time You Leave. Our third song is The Smashing Pumpkins. The song is SWR and then we have number four that is done. What's not featuring Gerard Dines. They did an Aerosmith cover of I Don't Want to Miss a Thing. So, it's new. We're going to be playing that song. Number four, of the new album, which is also called Ohm's Star. So, now the hashtag is Rock Tour 254. We're going to be putting up a post on Twitter. So, make sure you go ahead and vote, vote, vote. Your favorite. So, we're going to be playing you that just after he plays for us. One song, then we do that, right? Cool. Keep it white 254. Keep it Rock Tour.