 Good morning everyone nice to have you back Matt's into up to me there on this speaker of course he has Oh, yeah stealing this welcome back to day two of Clash of Kings So I'm Rob, and I'm joined by the sexiest voice at Mantic So we've got our I'm here ASMR session later on good morning everyone. Thank you for joining us So I get some bubble wrap to wrap to rattle another thing of tap on some things. Yeah Yeah, oh stroke your beard I don't know if I can even get that no So we had a really good day. I say very good excellent day lots of excitement. I think that there's some Steam heading into day two with where everyone is standing. I think that there's it there's some pleased players with The scenario that we're playing this morning and some very disappointed players based on what they've taken This is invade this morning for the first game, so we'll see how how it gets along But and so it just we talk about this now. What's the aim in this one with invades? It's really simple You just need to get as much of your unit strength across that halfway line by the end of the game So the majority of your unit base has to be over the center line for it to count Okay, and once you've done that you just add up the unit strength of that unit and the Army that has the most wins. So that's quite actually that's a quite nice easy one for some day Yeah, not a lot of thinking involved. I mean, I'm not some hangovers out there, but I do know That's Nick Williams. How he was doing. He said I am not well. Yeah, so they the Northern Kings I think of the record being up to the half past three. Yeah, that's that's impressive So we'll see how that affects their games so Yeah, we are we will see so we So we see on the on the top table this morning. We've got dankings flying circus Yeah Verses Elliot so we've already had Elliot on the stream. We're bored of watching Elliot So instead we've got Tom Robinson former Clash of Kings winner in 20 I'm gonna say 2017 it feels like it was sooner than that, but I don't I believe you I think 2017 was Tom 2018 was Nick 2019 was Mario Morello. Yeah. Yeah. Wow classicings. Yeah, that was actually one of the questions in the quiz last night Rob's quiz was amazing. I actually had very low expectations based on his own You know negative hype of the event, but Being there being a part of it. It was it was a life-changing experience So the yeah, the only connect round was the real highlight I think for everyone So if you've watched only connect in the UK Maybe I'll maybe I'll read out some of those connections and you can try and get them in the yeah So so we might do that later on so okay. Let's have a look through the list. Let's stop Waffling on about My quiz although that is obviously the highlight of the weekend for some people So we've got Steven Pearson. He's playing salamanders and we've got Tom with a Northern Alliance list, which We we he said we'll get some pictures and we will get some pictures today because we have got the painting competition later on So we'll grab some pictures and but Tom's army's looking. Oh, it's really nice really nicely colored and nicely themed So Tom really championed the idea that he was going to do a full mantic army Yeah, I think that he is really trying to compete for the winning trip. Yeah over to the US Clash of Kings Just for a chance to see how he stacks up against yeah the best of the US It's a great-looking army. So actually we've got a few kind of around that swirling around the top I mean Steven here. He's got a full salamanders army Very quickly got all the new units in like the rhinosaws and the scorch rings. So he's got those So yeah, it's nice and Tom's got this obviously Elliot's got all his halflings So yeah, it's nice to see that it is very top players with some mantic models We had some time to do some hobby. Yeah, you know over the past year and a half. So Excellent to see obviously we're very happy with that. So the Clash of Kings tradition of taking a mantic army and trying to win with it Is still carrying on. Yeah, nice. So should we go through what list you want to go through first Kyle? You know, I really like Tom's list. Okay, I'll read it and you can tell me yeah highlights. So We're gonna start off with four regiments pack hunters and these on all of these He's exchanged short bows for javelins. So that gives them 12 inches steady aim piercing Is that to get the piercing I guess? Yeah, he's really looking at the piercing because you're you're losing quite a bit of range You know, you always talk about effective range because you add your speed to whatever the range of the weapon that you're using Yeah, okay with with steady aim It helps because he can move and shoot and I think Tom's strategy is to do quite a bit of that Okay, move and shoot he can stay at a certain distance and and throw out the piercing shots because they're they're equally effective When they are charging and when they are shooting and that's that's what's interesting about this unit because they have Thunder's charge on the charge. Okay, they have melee for and ranged for so they're doing Essentially the exact same thing and he can he can determine when he's going to do what based on what he needs Okay, so it's a very effective Mid-ranged combined arms unit. Okay, so interesting. So yeah, like I said that the option of having both is normally you get one that they They're rather great at shooting or yeah, fine. So tell them is and hitting on fours isn't too bad No, no, no, so we've got three regiments of snow foxes and I guess they're the chaff Snow foxes are excellent chaff. Yeah, 80 points. They're nimble. That's what's really good about them I think vicious is very helpful if you do need to put one wound on something a flying unit You've got a much better chance of doing it with vicious actually and a ton of tacks. I mean, yeah, they're hitting on fives I guess you can get them in a flank and maybe do a little bit of damage. It's quite interesting Snow trolls looks like Two hordes of snow trolls one with a chalice of wrath. So what does that do? So we talked about this yesterday. This is the waiver mitigation on trolls The chalice of wrath gives them fury. Yeah, that's so they can be wavered by shooting. Yeah, but not by Combat they would still be wavered, but they would have the fury rule lets them the counter charge Yeah, so snow trolls compared to normal trolls. They've got the regeneration. They've actually got vicious. There's a wild charge Cushion plant two at tax 18. So they look obviously more points. I guess yes 190 I think yeah goblin trolls what's great about them is the the crushing two and the vicious together Mean that in most instances. Yeah, you're you're rolling either Threes or twos to damage and then re-rolling the ones. Yeah So what you hit with is is more than likely going to stay as damage. Yeah, okay, and then you've got another Horde of trolls. This you've got the dwarven ale and I guess that's just to help because it 15 18 The three-point gap. Yeah, it's easy to hit that. Yeah, it is. I think there's that three-point gap. That's it I can throw you off completely. So To play Oh, so we've had it. So Martin deployed So Martin thought he was gonna play today with his night stalkers and instead he's he's back to helping Matt I Yeah, Martin was I think you we sadly one person had to go home you say But yeah, it looks like we've had maybe another hangover issue. Yeah, the one yes They was natural legitimate issue correct morning might have been more of a hangover So then we've got the thing on Frostfang with the tricksters wand and a snow fox. Yeah, so the tricksters one gives him hex What is really wonderful about this is it's height four so he can cast hex which has a tremendous range in 30 inches, I believe wow that He can pick a spellcaster that most armies have at least one and just drop hex on them with a unit That doesn't isn't normally a spellcaster and is really just a supporting role I've I've liked this on dread fiends. Yeah, it's a good item in that same sense for the same reason for height So the way he's put this together is very smart. It's it's just this is Tom's way of saying I can take on any list Okay, good, and then you've got a thing with inspiring talisman. That's interesting Actually, the things don't already have been spiraling sure and then he's got talent ours standard which gives rally one Yeah, rally one is a very big deal because everyone within six inches is gonna get plus one in their nerve So where he puts that is interesting. So it's obviously he's not mounted He doesn't have any kind of wings or other movement Supplement so he's only speed five He's got to find a way to put them in a place that it makes sense And I believe he's gonna put those with his pack hunters it well actually looks like he might have put it there behind it You see where his hand is this looks like a single and I think that's the only thing I think that's got one Could be yeah, that's the only hero Yeah, probably I will see Then he's got three lord on frost fangs. Here's our mini dragons. Yeah, that's my favorite That's my favorite insight. Yeah, and I see these kind of idea of the mini dragons running around doing stuff So he's got one with a blade of slashing in the snow fox. What does the snow fox do? That's one attack. Okay. Yeah, is that once per game? No To the profile change it plus one attack. It's great Okay, so he's going up. Okay, so they're going up from nine attacks. It goes from eight to He's gone from eight. That's already done. It might be nine is base. Okay. We'll have a look in a second. Yeah She's got the yeah later So look three lord on flash frost bangs one with the blade of slashing One with the mace of crushing all with the snow fox and then finally he's got a snow troll prime with the stain stone Again, that's yeah, just the waiver gap. Yeah, trying to fix that up Yeah inspiring trolls only although as we said that's gonna change in Clash of Kings the books It's just be inspiring and it is eight attacks that has gone up to nine. Okay So that's not I feel like a nice varied list. It doesn't look particularly spamming. Yeah, I love it. Yeah Really good. Nice to see that from and then we've got Stevens Salamander's list now. I have a personal interest in this means I'm starting my Salamander army at the minute I see so what I want to do is I want to I'm not gonna say I'm gonna steal this list, but I'm gonna look at it and see what will inspire me very carefully Yeah, so I actually he's started with something that I've got which is two regiments of ancients They're amazing. Yeah, and the and the fantastic these do a lot, you know, but yes, they're slow speed four But they're hitting on threes Defense six. Yeah on infantry. Oh fearless nerve Yeah attacks 12 Not a huge amount of attacks then there. Yeah, then then dash 17 for their nerve But I think the big thing is they've got inspiring inspired. Yeah, and that's such a huge Yeah, yeah, not a Not a single hero or anything like that. Yeah So you stick them in the middle and they're kind of inspiring a lot really from from that six inches cause a lot of ground He's then got a horde of Salamander ceremonial guard with the chalice of wrath And that's interesting because I at the minute I've got that point where I'm looking what horde to do So I'm thinking whether I do a ceremonial guard or just do prime. Sure There's not that many just they're quite similar profiles, you know with speed five melee for 30 attacks 30 attacks Yeah, this is the spear unit and that's why he's given a chalice of wrath because If you if you waiver them even on a lucky double six for a turn shutting down 30 attacks Yes, yes, that's a big deal. So as long as they can't be wavered and he can still continue to throw out an attack It's a very helpful thing. Yeah, I must admit chalice of wrath Suddenly rocketed up into my yes stuff of artifacts. Yeah, it's nice It and it's interesting to see you know the cop the sort of people who've been seen taking it must take it for a reason You got the corsairs. They're like the kind of shooty Salamanders. Yeah similar to Tom's pack hunters. Yeah Okay, yeah, same kind of melee for ranged for These guys are getting a little bit of love and the upcoming class change book. Yeah, I Thought they've already got steady a Come on. What's they getting closer Kings? I may as well say a safe home. It's something well They're they're not going to be a regular. Oh, okay. That's why we are under a certain Circumstance and that's a bit I fire burn. Correct. Yeah, it is matter. Yeah And The other thing is they're getting a boost of their attacks as well So the regiments going up to 12 attacks and the troops only is good It's gonna be 10 and so then you're same thing as the pack hunters. They're currently that way. Okay So what we've done is tried to make those in line. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, you've got I think a slightly higher defense. Yes, so slightly more points. Okay. Yeah, and he's put the staying stone on them You've got a horde of fire elementals Um These are stock. Yeah, it's a nice little hammer. Yeah, Scorch wings sort of flying. Yes It depends on how you take them as regiments, I think that they're just sort of a harassing unit Yeah, you can keep them Away from from threats because they're speed 10 and flying. Yeah, so and they have range attacks So with the fire sparks, you know, you've got an effective 28 inch range Yeah, just threaten something that means that he can keep them out of charge ranges while still constantly throwing out damage. Yeah Commit if he needs to because they've got thunderous charge Nimble so that they can get into some nifty little places and melee 3 so they'll do some pretty surprising damage Even though low attacks 6. Yeah, these guys are also getting some attention in Clash of Kings Okay I guess that's sort of thing that my people might just overlook Tom obviously he's a good player so you probably won't but people might overlook the Scorch wings because they Yeah, they look a bit sort of like I'll be fine. We'll sort those out but the danger with him currently is that they have defense 3 yes and Tom could easily take those off. Yeah, if he gets those pack hunters just a couple of shots. Yeah, okay So they started playing that so quickly go through rhinoceros or cavalry a horde with the Jesse sprux of striding makes sense to me greater fire elemental Now he's getting some attention to this guy's list is gonna approve quite a bit You're gonna be pleased next year. It's kind of next tournament. You're interested so Phoenix Again, we sort of saw the Phoenix yesterday. You got to be careful with it because that defense 3 but I mean it's managed to survive. Yeah, it did yesterday. We'll see we'll see what the difference is today There's a lot more shooting in this list. Yes. Yeah, I suppose that's a difference. Yeah, mage priest. We're shrouded the saint It's giving a bonus to his heels. Yeah And he's got heel 3 replace fireball 10 with search. So I guess he's got that so you can do some shenanigans with the fire elementals Yeah, yeah, I must admit. I've never got my head around All that surging stuff like trying to get them in this plank. It's it's a challenge for a new player Especially to play against it. Yeah, but It can be very very effective strategy. It's a good flyer defense, you know If a flyer gets behind you you can just turn them straight around and surge into it Yeah, so good good options get to our Sky Lord on Scorchwing. Hey, he's getting improved in clash games, too I think he's well, he obviously will be inspiring for everyone, won't he? And then yeah Yeah, this yeah, this list is getting a lot actually a lot better than firebrand as well in those so a nice What I like about this two varied lists not loads of spam. No, yeah Yeah, this isn't in there on spam at the top of the tournament. Yeah. Yeah, that says a lot. Yeah Yeah, because I'm assuming I'm looking at my list and thinking well I'll probably want at least two like caledons in that but I think that's because I'm used to being a goblin player with war machines Well, that is a really good game. They're my clutch really is a very good unit By Sunday's pint at 235 yesterday. Oh So there we go. Maybe we're not gonna do it. We gotta tell them. This is this is I mean I think there must be there must be a mistake there 235 yesterday, but we Firestorm if you're listening we we were told we were promised that Friday was count as well. So hopefully that's true So we'll put an announcement out to everyone at lunch and say look you need to have at least five pints everybody Maybe we need to start drinking today. You've got a drive. I'm gonna drive home. It'll be interesting drive home if I do that so I was gonna say actually while we were talking then is what I love about these ones is you can see that in terms of the Paint jobs that really carried on through the theme. You know steve's Yeah, this is the blue ice of the Northern Alliance. This is quite a good match of actually it is visuals So we planned it. Yeah, it was intentional. You got to put the pretty armies on the stream, right? Yeah And they've helped us out by staying towards this side of the table It's the first game we've had where I went to swap the names around several times So in terms of I mean, it's too early to tell but if you're looking at these lists I mean obviously Tom's a very good player, but Steven's be decent to be up here Where where's your money on this one? I I kind of have to go with Tom. Yeah, but I Just really like his list. I think it's a very solid list for being what it is It's it's that sort of hobby hero list. Yeah, but Tom is also a masterful player. So We'll see how hungover is he that's a good question Tom is in the Northern Kings. Yeah So that could prove a problem for him never know And also the the the big thing today is that yesterday we had it so that if you're on the same team You couldn't face each other. Yeah, Northern Kings can all play against you should be yesterday now. It's open today It's all open. So it's all a free-for-all and I think So I think actually in the last round whether you can face someone you've already faced I Can't remember possibly But yeah, that makes things up as well They say because obviously you haven't got Nick Williams facing Tom or sure that's up so far or Elliot facing Tom as well But yeah, today they could take you to the wrong So it looks like he's put that I'm assuming it's a Lord on Frost Fang It could be a thing. Yeah, they sort of use the same model But it looks like he's put it out of arc of the ancients At the top of the screen there. Yeah, which is potentially devastating already the fire elementals would be a good defense against that but Tom's already in a flank and Stephen doesn't really have a way to stop it. No I guess any problem is you're gonna start having to turn around and I mean he could back up maybe He could that's about his that's about the opposite. Yeah In a scenario that's invade that's not what you want to know you want to be going forward Don't you it's almost like Tom playing that. Yeah Nimble on those the Lord on Frost Fangs. That's what makes it so devastating Yeah, and you can't even use terrain to hide from them because they've got strider. No, and I tell you what I am Very very pleased about is they've set up this side of the camera. Yeah, they're down towards very considerate We we did move the terrain around a little bit And so we can see more of the table. I think we took out one of the hills as well Interesting because I think during the course today because people are coming and putting their armies on those hills That ends up in the deployment zone. They weren't originally in the deployment zone, but no one moved them Yeah, interesting. I thought that I always talk with my opponent before the game and say is it Well, we yesterday there was one table that was set up with a big bit of blocking terrain in the middle Mm-hmm someone after me collared me and said We couldn't play on the table. I went well, you could have moved it Yeah, you know, we're not saying that you know always have a chat with your player and see what's going on 361 Okay, okay. I feel better So that's okay. So everyone needs to buy at least one beer today. Yeah, what was it like 440 or something? Do we people are driving home today? We can do it. Okay Thanks Firestorm for the update. That's That's the real challenge today. Yeah, I Mean I've fair play. I have seen someone this morning who was getting a breakfast beer. Yeah Yeah, hair of the dog So let's let's make notes. So it's Tom Steven went first even when first remember that yep I see what is quite as Steven's name is first that might help us remember so Tom's angles will be fascinating here You know, if you notice everything's kind of at least down towards us Just canted slightly towards each other. Yeah, because if anything is charged or taken he's gonna have automatic flanks Yeah, with the other units, which is a very Very smart play It looks like he's we're students taking the checkerboard approach his rhinosaws out the picture actually just waiting to see Steven's Steven's leaning now. That's just where his rhinosaws are. It looks like with it. Yeah down towards the bottom left some scorch wings In front of them Interesting watching Tommy's movements all seem so precise I'm not watching you the day on Friday when he's on a practice game It's keeping the snow foxes behind. Yeah, just so that they don't get shot off by the corsairs That's interesting. I assume they would be in the front kind of Just He wants them to be combat chaff not a human chaff. He doesn't mind about shooting patrols every generation. Yeah, of course Yeah, he's got you know Ways to deal with it. Okay, so he's on a little pop at something then I Imagine he's going to use the snow troll prime as a bit of Chaff as well. Yeah, okay, because he's got a Lord on Frost Fang unless it's One of the well the thing you can find out which one it is. It should be the Lord on Frost Fang I see the gray for the one with the That's it. So the one that's gray. Let me go and check. I see there's one That's gray, which I think might be the one where Steven's actually the one where Steven pointing is that one They've got very inspiring down there. So he's got a nine-inch bubble. Okay, well six So that's that's helpful. The troll isn't necessarily what he needs to keep no to maintain inspiring Okay, so all so so all the Lords have got very inspiring. Yeah, okay So let's have the thing is on the gray one And then what's nice as well is he's there on his Lord's he's got one that's got a half-elf on one That's got a whole skull. He's modeling as well. Yeah night really nice List in terms of just the units, but also a nicely Painted him. He's got a chance at the best painted Manticorpority. Yeah, I mean there's some really good ones We've got one that's a door farming that's got the train on the display. Yeah, that was great. Yeah Back to Steven. He's looking at his distances Can't tell if that's quite in or a millimeter out. So he's probably gonna back up Gonna turn. Oh, I think I may But they've got wild charge, haven't they? Yeah when when he's he's putting that corner out now too, which definitely puts them in range Okay, so you can tell that he's Unsure of it, but how is he like there's ways that he can mitigate it. Let's see what he does It's it's interesting because you just you spoke to you underestimate kind of, you know speed Speed seven nimble. So you can kind of be moving them around a little bit getting them into position. Yeah. Oh When mills collapsed angry ghost. Yeah Oh, don't take time off your clock to do that. I think tom was trying to pause it for him To change back. Okay. We call that the undo button he marked where the unit was before controls it controls the yeah Okay, so now he's back having a look again at these ones So these are obviously the ancients. Yeah, this is this is a difficult thing for him because that that Frost fang really put him in a position. Yeah, and It's sort of telling, you know the first Unit that a person goes to when they go to start moving things or reading their charges and the one they're worried about Yeah, it tends to be one through psychologically. Yeah, I need to sort this out. Yeah Or it's one of those situations where you're like, I don't know what to do here. I'm going to leave that for last Yeah, yeah Yeah, I tend to be that Yeah, I just look at them again. I've got no idea. I I was going to do everything else I know what to do which I can do quickly and then kind of come back and have a have a good think about that one And it was what's been good. Actually, obviously this year for clash of kings. We bumped up the points It's from 2000 to 2300 A few reasons obviously I think in third it felt like points increased a little bit across the board maybe uh, and so doing 2300 means you've got You've got the points to get all the toys in I guess Yeah, I I I feel like the game is really well balanced at 2300 points And especially for tournament play because everybody sort of wants that extra fun unit Yeah, yeah, uh, it is more challenging to write a list for 2000 points. Yeah and I think that It may be more representative of The better players that are more, you know in in the list building an actual execution of their list 2000 points is a better Thing but it also after all the time that we haven't been playing games Everybody wants to come bring out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah so No, it's good because I think there was we were a little bit worried because the we have increased the time but not significantly uh, so but we um, mostly we only I mean obviously Jan and matt's game is they they managed to finish off just about we haven't really seen a lot of um games run over or So he's moved the greater fire element a lot, but he's trying to figure out what to do with the scorch wings Yeah He's put them up flush with it I imagine he's going to do a little bit of shooting with both of them. Yeah, so what's the um fire elemental that just uh, Just a fireball. Yeah It's a great fire elemental fireball eight It's not great. The biggest advantage he has is his height Five so we can see things see whatever he wants. Yeah, but he doesn't exactly like I would love to get the Snow foxes with a fireball. Yeah uh but They are stealthy and they are further than 12 inches away. It looks like so Not really an option Because I guess you could quite easily take them off Most likely even even with stealthy. Yeah, I mean they're eight ten so if you just have You know a a uh mind fog where you are rolling a nerve test Yeah, you don't have to damage them at all You can potentially just roll the nerve and take them off with a ten. Yeah, yeah, of course They are inspired He's checking his angles seeing the distances because he moved he moved forward then and then realized that Move forward looking at the trolls for then realizing he was in the side He you have got to look around so much. Haven't you to think about it? You know to to look at what's going on. Well, tom is so casual and cool about the traps that he sets. Yeah. Yeah Yeah Oh, you noticed that did you like? Yeah, I think I don't have a very good poker face So when someone's moving when someone's potentially falling into a trap Uh, you're over there licking your lips. Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's bad because I tricked martin because I know we were talking They say our martin always wants to charge forward and fight So I purposely always get into like hindering terrain. Oh, it's yes. It's very easy to do that And it's he but it's easy to bait him and then he'd run in and it's like, oh, yeah You're hindered and then he'd be quietly seething The rivalry between me and martin carries on He's so lucky. I think he's How far's the range on the um phoenix with the fireball fireball is also 12. Yeah, so not really great options. No I guess it's interesting, isn't it with the fireball because you You're always gonna pretty much have to put it in range or something You do I I see it as sort of a secondary thing Now something that's a common or popular tactic with the greater fire elemental is you can move it up Uh, to a very short distance away from the unit Cast your fireball. Yeah, and then have it be surged into the unit So you get your fireball damaged in the ranged phase. There's no nerve test if you complete the surge But then you can then fight as well. So it's it's sort of a double tap a way to do it Uh, it's it's also common with uh ice elementals. Yeah, which which I think tom Maybe could have taken instead of the trolls to be a little bit more competitive, but he he likes the trolls So he's chosen that route and It's interesting because obviously I think in the masters it was quite a it was like a Uh, a nice breath heavy list wasn't I think there were a lot of uh a lot of elementals The giant the snow giant Frost giant frost giant snow giant sounds a bit more like you'd get it in frozen It's like when uh the snowman was the snowman called Ola ola like a giant version of ola that'd be the snow giant. That's terrible. I wouldn't be scared of that Well, maybe I would yeah He throws carrot no's at you And we're just uh, so our glamorous assistant martins has popped enough to pop the mics off So it might it's just coming in there and we're discussing again our disappointed vr with the uh with the beer situation I think maybe there's a mistake there must be a mistake on the system I've not been contributing as much. We haven't been drinking. I think I've had like seven beers I suppose if we drum since friday night That's not nearly enough. No that would have been I'm not with it. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I would have had about 10 beers a day. Oh, yeah get some beers down me um Okay, so steven's still on his turn here to back to the actual event. Oh, yeah So we've completed some charges. Looks like he's got some scorch wings into trolls. Yeah, and the skyline. Yeah Into the frost penguin there's like the geckos Skylo's gonna have some Difficult oh mellow three actually Foretax foretax. Yeah in 1113. Yeah, that's not a It's not a match up my life. Yeah Interesting actually that he's got no frost fan cavalry. I think I overheard him saying yesterday actually that On paper, they look quite good, but They never really and they're nice models and things but they just never quite do the damage at that thing You know, I I really enjoy them. I thought about making an entire frost fang army Oh, wow, that'd be cool to go against my better You know judgment of trying to build balance lists. Yeah, yeah just all frost fangs frost fang lords frost fangs, you know go all out on Listen, nice It's the end on me. Yeah. Um, you know, you you hear people sit taking spam and say, oh, it's themed That actually is a good theme Uh You would do very well against some armies and then horribly against others if I came up against trident realm With all that and snare hitting from fours to fives it would do all it would be devastating Future i don't realm armies here actually Yeah, so so steven with his rhinosaurs. I see I was looking at rhinosaurs feel a little bit like that sort of um You know comparison to frost fangs. Yeah. Yeah, I quite like them as regiments rather than hordes I like the rhinosaurs more than the frost fangs. So there's a rhinosaur speed seven melee three defense five Attacks 18 that's on the regiment and then dash 18 for it's yeah, then there Points for horde it's not cheap. No, we're not cheap And you and you typically have to give them some kind of terrain mitigation. Yeah, so either Jesse's boots or pathfinder Brutal is a really big deal on them. Yeah Yeah brutal actually is kind of that realization it it guarantees you one hit. Yeah, it doesn't it it's sort of um that one extra hit So it looks like tom's there's to be tom's turn two He's going back into those kind of scorch wings The foxes into the sky lord Did he lose the frost bay? There's no way We miss that if he did we do another look Yeah, that'd be pretty That can't be He either he's moved it out of the way to charge something else. Let me have a look So he's playing the patient game with the top lord on frost faying Just trying to continually threaten those angles and not committing Now he's got three different angles Coming at that left flank for steven Yeah, so just out the picture To the on the overhead view That in the middle of the screen towards the right I think he must have gone through and the frost fangs are both charged into the rhinosols. I see So they've run off and uh, so he he disengaged and went into a different unit. Yeah Jerry's making watching better than us. Yeah, that's right steven We got distracted We'll blame martin when he came in and he did he was asking for drinks. He's backing up No, he's not backing up. He did a little bit. He's trying to mean he can stay that 12 inches away Yeah, if he needs to These are the pack hunters. So he's got the range shots That he can gap the the fire elementals are his biggest Uh threat there because yeah, if he gets himself within shooting range the fire elementals can also charge But the the ancients he can shoot Interesting he's he's kept that Another looks here, but that frost fang that we yeah, he didn't charge in. He's just trying to maintain additional angles. Yeah. Yeah that that's interesting watching tom because In my instinct we were watching him on friday night for a little bit in my instinct. It's always like oh brilliant I'm gonna charge in but actually he's just Messing with people really it's not necessarily about Yeah, wiping them off the table is great, but Just getting them to spin around and start turning and Make them think what they're gonna do is is quite good Well, steven's on his heels at this point because he's he's reacting to what tom is making him do as opposed to Enacting his own control at tom's controlling the game. Yeah And I guess obviously that's the sign of a good player, isn't it? Yeah, if you can come in and enforce your opponent to To react all the time There's no good option. You either take the charge and Potentially survive. Yeah. Yeah to stop tom from messing about or You play into his game and hope that there's a moment in time that you can turn it around on Or he makes a mistake. Yeah, well, you know And a crucial sort of double one that you can encapsulate on it. Yeah That's not exactly the the situation that you want to put yourself in to try to win. No Just look at that a little tiny little touch there See what he wants to do He said tom I think when tom won it Uh, he had an elf list I think he'd play elves for quite a bit actually. I think at the last clash of kings Maybe elements he had an elf list as well um So it's nice to see now with northern alliance as well And we were looking at see, I mean trying to get it from Matt Gilbert the spread of factions was good You know, there's no one faction that dominates particularly We tend to see a lot of undead Yeah undead Yeah, yeah, it's a popular army. Just Aesthetically, it's it's cool. Yeah, uh, it can be represented in a lot of different ways and The build options that you have you you can make so many different styles of armies And it's a from from output. You know, it's one of the probably one they I think we've got a model for every unit So it's not often that I've done very well with my undead army over the years and It was the first one that I committed to making as as a mantic army. Yeah before I came on board I just I saw the range being complete, you know dwarves were pretty close. Yeah, uh I felt like maybe there was another one But undead were really the one that I just thought had had the cool factor that I wanted to put together in play with I think that just gets a lot of people Yeah, it's interesting because a few few years ago when I first started at Mantic, I thought I'll start a new army king's war and I spent and then it's actually a We were talking about crisis. I think a bit yesterday, maybe uh in In antwerp and I spent an entire weekend agonizing about what army was going to take And in the end, it's probably because I spent the weekend with Ronnie that ended up taking dwarves So I had a dwarf army that I did 2017 something like that. I never I like Ronnie. I never finished it. So Although often when we uh when we play those big games he borrows my dwarf So fearlessly even his army isn't finished yet. He's still borrowing mine Tom's rule of regen got at least one back on the trolls So is that quite cautious from Stephen there? Is he kind of binding his time a little bit or is it kind of Just went to what tom does Yeah, it's It's difficult. Um It's difficult to know exactly what Is going through steven's head. Yeah, I know that if it were me I don't feel confident Enough to actually come in in charge. Yeah But maybe tom just has that effect on you. It's just messy The thing like he just moved those snow foxes out there in the open And there's no clear charge for them He's either saying, you know next turn I'm going to need to want to put these in the way for chaff. Yeah Or hey move your phoenix up so that you can cast fireball on them and try to take them off And then I'm going to punish you for doing that. Yeah, just baiting. Yeah, so Which one is it? Yeah, okay. So he's uh looks like the package is shooting at the ancients Maybe just one damage there Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't know what their damage count is. Um That's why you take three regiments He's gonna focus fire more than likely he's gonna put all of his shots into that one regiment The only interesting thing about that to me is I may have chosen the other regiment The one that's at the back Yeah, do you think he's in within 12? I think he might be shooting that one now. Okay Yeah, yeah there we go So nerve on them Looks fine Or not Did you roll it twice for inspiring? I don't think you need to know. Oh, okay. There we go. That's nice. Yeah. Yeah So quite nice So steven looks like when he's got the damage he lays them all next to it and then if he puts them on the little uh Stagger, yeah So it looks like you might be doing the trolls now judging by all the dice. Yeah So the trolls uh 18 dice Hitting on fours. They should easily pick up the scorch wings 11 13 on their nerve He rolled a couple of issues the flap even if he's only done five or so damage unless he rolls very poorly Yeah, yeah, they come So you get a a roll there from the looks like the snow foxes have tumbled off the hill quite interesting actually they eat He kind of probably knows the score the geckata Isn't that much of a threat? So he kind of that's why he's charging with the snow fox. Yeah, his his reform is He could easily kill it with the snow foxes Which is the shame of it and also why that thing is going to get a little bit of attention Because it's a shame it's got a it's a gorgeous model. Yeah, you got to give it some love I think that's all I mean, you know, I mentioned a bit we talking about the slashiest day the goblin slasher About kind of such a nice model and then to not see it in a list is really sad. So Yeah, the sky lord Getting a little bit of a boost What's happening to that character on board it is what's happening to the sky lord better nerve more attacks I believe yes Both both of those See this is why people really tune in to hear what's going on with Clash of kings Well, that's all right. We're at clash of kings. Yeah, we're talking about So matt uh, we're talking a little bit about clash of kings last night and he's uh, he has a little bit of a keynote I mean that was After the quiz that was the second most the third thing of the weekend the quiz really was the quiz This tournament matt's keynote So he talks a little bit about What's coming up? I think I've seen it on fanatics. I think I've seen people mention rift forged orcs. Yes I I did see that mentioned. Okay, so that's um I I I heard them Thought of is abyssal orcs and I wouldn't I wouldn't call it that No garg not exactly. No. No, I suspect that's that's interesting. Yeah garkhan has created them Using the power of the rift But uh, yeah, they're more sort of that'll be interesting actually to do Kind of rift forged orcs Maybe like abyssal allies. We've got interesting interesting. Yeah Yeah garkhan sort of uh, and we were talking actually yesterday about tying the narrative into the help is with campaign and what was quite nice was uh, orcs as they stand lost more game Significantly lost more games than they won in the help is rift So it's like we were quite actually that feeds into the narrative quite well that garkhan's so pissed that he builds these new orcs um, and then the way it works is because time is kind of not constant in the abyss they've been actually Kind of questing in the abyss and fighting lots of abyssal ready to then march out Uh and take on everyone else. So yeah, interesting. Uh, amulis that one. So what's happening with the get to us? So I just got distracted then it's it's getting some Help offensively with uh, thunder's charge and pathfinder. That's a that's a very big help The actual scorch wings are getting a bump and attack. Ah, okay, right But that's that's very important. And then their defense is going from three to four So very slight but still very important. Yeah, you know that that shooting defense that you get from defense four is is really nice so stephen's turn three so, um Tom tom's snow foxes Failed to take out they did yeah my lord which would have been a travesty really the 80 point unit takes out the yeah, you know 100 plus point hero looks like the rhinosaur is still survived That's important. Yeah They don't have their thunderous charge now Which definitely reduces their damage output But I'd still expect him to To get into an interesting, you know spot with it. He could You know be in that position where if he rolls a seven twice on one of those frost fangs He could actually take it off. Yeah, you know, so we'll see Oh So sky lord Sky lord v foxes the money on there Tom wanted to put one damage on it so that sky lord couldn't just hop over the back and start Being in the backfield causing issues Again, that's where that vicious is a very big deal But from what I saw it looked like tom did I think four damage to it. Okay So fire elemental And it looks like he's gonna try and he's also going to try to fit the Not put him in. I don't know that he can Because he's gonna be not Steven is allowed to change his order if it can't work. Yeah And that's where we talk about those little checkerboard things Yeah, I had a question one of my rules questions yesterday was this kind of a situation because the player thought They can't deny a charge, right and and You can't box a unit in yeah Yeah, you can deny a charge based on angles and you know Not allowing it to be in but you can't box a unit in so it's only option is to back up. Yeah So let's maybe try to work out. He's I said, well, I can't do it there, but I can't do it here. So he's gone into the No, it's all prime. It's all fine. Okay. So Where I said earlier that that could be used as chaff. Yeah, that's exactly what tom has done there He used it so that the trolls couldn't be double charged Yeah, because that is the downside of the frost trolls as opposed to regular trolls The size yeah, the large and or heavy Monsters in three. Yes. Oh, so they're on 50s. They're on 50s. Yeah, right. Okay. So it is a downside Yeah, there's more room for multiple units to get in. So he had to use that snow troll Hero to to sort of keep that apart Let's go down to clever placement there from tom The ceremonial guard the downside is if he doesn't take off the greater fire elemental those trolls Have an easy flank on the Greater fire too. Yeah So let's see. Let's hold up. So the prime Defense five 1316 And what's the um technically they're gonna be 1416 with the staying stone Okay. Yeah, of course. Yeah, a little bit more and then the greater fire elemental eight attacks hitting on fours I'll be guys got the scorch wings in as well as in the year. I forgot about that. Yeah, so You'd expect the greater fire to do about 40 damage The scorch wings That's the that's the question mark. Yeah Six attacks on threes with thunderous Hang on, we just got uh martin's made out of three more minutes for six So martin that was a very important question. Yeah, which is what do we want for lunch? What's for lunch? It's a nice hot food at firestorm. Yeah, that's fantastic. Yeah, you know, the most successful stores In in the states are really the ones that that have those cafes built into. Yeah, they're the ones that are just those booming locations that Are great. Not everyone can do it. Uh I think most stores at this point have refreshments of some sort of snacks and drinks. Yes, that's very helpful Uh, when you're here all day whole weekends, that sort of thing makes a big difference to the players So what's what's you guys pull Kyle? I went for the burger The chicken strips, they weren't bad. I just want to change it up. Yeah Had a curry last night. Oh, yeah, was that your first UK curry lamb curry? Yeah, it was great Uh, he said the lamb was a bit overcooked. It's a bit tough. It was I mean just for what I'm used to Yeah, I can do lamb pretty rare and I'm okay with it. But that was that was well done But like I said, it was safe. It was a safe bet. So yeah after scotch egg gate. Yeah hashtag scotch egg gate Yeah, very nice. Yeah, we uh, we we weren't out till half past three in the morning No, that's why we sound probably a lot fresher than uh, some of the other people out there So poor Robert says not only really nice food, but not expensive. Yeah So old Jason so he came in late. Is this a salamanders versus northern alliance match? It is indeed So this isn't top table. This is I think this is actually table two if I remember rightly um Mod says nice to hear Kyle having curry. Yeah, yeah, you that was one of the things you requested. Yeah, I mean it's it's Practically the UK's national dish fish and chips as the UK. Oh, this is an interesting debate What is the UK's national dish? I would say it's fish and chips I I I really thought it would have been a curry just because of the way you guys do it I'm gonna google it. Have you had fish and chips yet? I have. Yeah. I did last time Oh, you're going to briddlington actually, aren't you know, that's how you do it again On the seaside. Yeah See that'd be nice by the seaside having fish and chips So I'm as yeah, I'm gonna say Fish and chips national dish I'm googling it. Okay UK national dish I'm a hundred percent fish and chips chicken tikka masala That's what it says. I don't believe that Chicken tikka masala For epic meals representing the UK on Grubhub Oh, it's because you're maybe it's because you've got an american phone. Could be let me check on my do it british phone Haggis in scotland Welsh call UK An irish stew. I love an irish stew dish Or actually, I'm going to have been UK's most popular. I'll have to have been national dishes Sorry, sorry everyone. You just commentate on the game while I just check this. Sorry. No, I get chicken tikka masala too That has blown my mind Chicken tikka masala. I mean, it's the impression that you get everyone's always like, oh, we're going for a curry Chicken tikka masala is now a trip. This is wikipedia I mean this This has now become the main chat. I think chicken tikka masala is now a true british national dish Not only because it is the most popular of it because it is a perfect illustration of the way britain absorbs and adapts external influences Well, yeah, that's that's very true Wow All right, we're seeing how much damage he's putting on this snow troll prime. This is a very big Moment in the game looks like the scorch wings are rolling out. Got three hits Oh, it's below average It's below average. What's he gonna do? Now, oh, look at that casual shape. Yeah, no didn't do it. Nice try. What do you think the us national dishes? That's a good question I've got the answer according to the internet I would think it'd be something very generic You know cheeseburger or hot dog that kind of thing. It's hamburger. Yeah. Yeah actually talking of uh america when we look at the nfl scheduled today because I think uh Folkins is playing today in the spurs ground half past two So folkins is the team that my son supports tom has immediately taken that flank Don't blame him. I I wouldn't want to charge the Ancient or not the ancients the ceremonial guard horde with just one horde of trolls. No uh I I think that he would rather take the chance To either chaff it up with the snow foxes. Yeah And then double charge when when given the chance Jerry doing some commentary for us and saw that the the snow foxes survived against the sky lord. That's a big deal I see a frost fang that's free down there in the bottom of the screen too So it looks like the snow fox is there Just getting in the way getting away. Yeah, put him an inch out. It's a it's a perfect move because he's now blocked two units Yeah, he's not charging anything. He's not doing any damage You stay an inch away and now they can't go anywhere. Yeah, I suppose actually in terms of the scenario Steven's got his stuff up. He's moving up, but I guess Tom's maybe hoping he starts wiping them out and then yeah, he's got to crack a hole to get through first um It looks like that top frost fang is now perfectly primed to be in the rear of both of those units Which that's going to be devastating no matter what I I see this at a point where in the next two turns it is going to be pardon the pun an avalanche for tom It's good. Allow me to do that. Yeah. Yeah, see if it we'll remember that later And if we were to try it around we can say it's going to be a tsunami. Yes. Yeah, yeah Make a note. We'll we'll purposely try and get a try to If steven somehow pulls this off. It's a volcanic comeback. Oh, there we go. It's an eruption. Yeah of It's never tax. Yeah Well, I think we've already been informative today with the national dish Yeah, that's that's that's still that's totally blowing my mind And and maybe it's based off of the perception, you know the perception from Foreigners not necessarily. No, I think it was. No, I think it was it must have been both. Okay. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I could have sworn My tertiary guess. Yeah for the u.s. Would have been Like a steak, you know, yeah Steak and potatoes kind of thing. Yeah Hamburger makes sense. I would I would have thought hamburger. Yeah, I think it's always gonna cheese That's what we do on holidays, you know, it's you 4th of july. That's what you're eating. Yeah, so I love that that comment by the way because everyone always, you know, we we say our dates opposite Yeah, of you, you know today is october But 1010 actually once it's october the 10th But we would still say it, you know, it's not the 10th of october. Yeah, it's october 10th And the one exception to us doing that is the 4th of july. Yeah, the the most american holiday possible We flip it around Tom's just working out here what he's gonna do. They'll say looks like they're all Shooting again, I believe so because I don't think that he can Be patient enough with them any longer. He's probably going to be charged Uh The nice thing is he can just back up and have steady aim still and shoot to space what what's possibly interesting space with uh Nearly everything's got unit strength, hasn't it? I was going to tom's list So I don't know if it's that important really to make absolutely. Yeah. Yeah It because the only one without is the thing. Yeah, you add up the units at least halfway across that second line, so So far tom's looks like he's only got two points. Yeah, but I'm not sure that steven has Any more because he's got the greater fire elemental over there in the scorch wings Oh the sky lord two that's one so three but uh How much longer those units are going to be there is the question at the uh, no they've got The prime that's like the uh ceremonial guard They're probably not across that ain't quite They're very stout. Yeah, I mean that's that's the unit that is the biggest threat to tom If it were me I would want to be charging them With the trolls or with the frost fang in the flank if not both at the same time Yeah Because the frost fang can go into the flank and not be affected by phalanx Okay, but the trolls are the perfect match up against it But both you think needs to get in both. I think it needs to be right. Yeah, it has to be In even at that. I don't know if it's enough, but Tom only has one turn because of where those snow foxes are one of them has to go away. So defense five 21 23 I guess and he's got the uh Radiance of life as well on the phoenix Sure And heal potentially. Mm-hmm. So he could keep yeah, he doesn't want to shoot. He could keep just healing him up and Unit strength for that's that's a lot. Yeah Doing a shooting now The other exciting update we can do Is uh, my son is playing football today. So I can keep as I'm getting live score feeds on that one So it's currently one all to his team. So I'll keep I'll keep everyone updated about that one. Yeah Well, that's the hard thing, you know, when we do this stuff, we go away from family and yeah You miss some of those things Well, I'm not sure I miss being out in the cold Yeah, watching a game of football in the field, but Sounds nice to me. I'd be shooting the phoenix now Uh, so jerry says is the extra frost fang off camera looking towards the rhinosaurs or back towards the hordes flank That's a good question. Do you want to go and check that kyle? Yeah, I I if he didn't take off the Rhinosaurs It may still have one unit in them I think mod keeps accidentally talking about what's coming up in the book because he's a play tester So the phoenix has your five. Yeah, I thought the phoenix has a heel five but it does have heel five He'll five. Yeah Yes, jerry for once you've got the rules wrong I'll be right back. I want to see where that frost fangs at So car's just going to check what's happening on the table See it. So we like we said you obviously have martin coming on We've had just two dropouts today, which is pretty good. I think so it takes us to 84 for the last day Overall, you know great, you know, we were expecting some dropouts generally for the event because of Obviously coveted and some people still Not quite sure about events at the minute, which is absolutely fair enough. Totally understandable But uh 86 generally is is really good And then uh, we were very worried about the the fuel crisis here and I mean I say well, it was a crisis I guess crisis seems a bit the fuel problems in the uk where people couldn't get petrol Um, but I think that's sort of eased off a bit. So we thought one pump people won't be able to make it here, but Luckily that was all fine. So what's happening there? So it's kind of confusing He's he's got both of them into the rhinosaurs But he's got them turned so that their flanks are touching and he's only done that for positioning Yes, uh, so that the the models fit. Yeah, I did wonder that because I went over and looked and they both were Yeah, they turned around But it's just so they fit And the one at the very bottom of the screen that you can see just as his face on uh is facing the flank of the uh ceremonial guard horde So jerry says his defense. He is drinking. See if only jerry's drink drinks counted towards their overall total I think we'd be uh, jerry should come down Yeah, jerry, do you reckon he could make it to next year's classicings? You've got time to come down now Yeah, just pop on a plane Yeah, it's not far not far from northern islands to whales It's it's what hour and a half flight at most maybe less than that. I'd say yeah, okay So we'll see you jerry about what about two about two o'clock this card of war ceremony. Yeah. Yeah, yeah We'll pick you up just Order an uber. Yeah. Yeah, sounds good. Yeah, looking forward to maybe the driver that we had the other night Oh henry was great. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, it's uh, he had some nice Tunes on oh romantic very romantic. Yeah, we were getting all kinds of uh, warm, lovey vibes. Yep martin was stroking my knee This is before we had the scotch egg. So, uh Everything was well there. Yeah, they were the days So that's a little sorry. We'd we got distracted in by talking about the scotch egg again Okay, so that's the so he's lost the scorch wings and the fire element until there and the ancients at the top and the ancients so this is uh Been quite the round for tom And I guess this is when like I say You crack the nut And then you eat the you know you eat what's inside basically I see that the snow foxes have failed to Take off the sky lord unless he hasn't rolled that yet possibly I'm kind of rooting for that sky lord I want that sky to win. I understand. Yeah It doesn't seem right after just no a giant fiery bird versus some dogs. Yeah, yeah Tiny dogs. Yeah. Yeah foxes aren't large at all. Yeah Then again, I guess, you know, maybe he's like just like poking at them with his spear Yeah, I I thought I heard tom say devastated on the rhinoceros cavalry down there. Oh, okay, right So he may have rolled snakes right on them, but But this way they've gone now. Are they gone? Okay. Yeah Maybe one of his frost fangs was devastated, right? Okay, so he was rolling less attacks Which I could imagine with the uh rhinoceros cavalry. Yeah, they're a truck, but That truck is driven off the road now Yeah So that's this is steven's turn four Sounds right. Yeah, they're rattling through this tom's doing well considering he might been one that he was one of the ones that was up to half past three Oh, thanks mod says brilliant sky lord that you painted Sean makes their hair more. Yeah Yeah, it's always sad when you spent a long time painting You've got your favorites and then they all get blown off the table Particularly when you've You've painted a new unit. You're really excited about it. First time you get on the table and you just get wiped out Yeah, first time I fielded a spectra. Oh, yeah, it was taken out by a goblin sniper Yeah, yeah in one round. Yeah, just straight through all the energy shields didn't matter Yeah, well, I um, I painted to pull my mats done for dead zone Really excited about them play the game with my son. Oh got wiped out. Yeah It turns out he's quite the he's uh, he's quite the expert when he comes to dead zone He's very proud because he beat um Andy sharp when he came over once. Yeah. Yeah Was Andy using the blue dice? Uh, Andy was using his blue dice He was he was playing forge fathers And uh, harrison was using As he called us bin rats The veerman, okay And uh, the bin rats clever But it's because he likes those ones all the rat swarms that coming out the pipes So yeah, the bin rats did pretty well there So it looks like they're checking to see if the ceremonial guard can pivot and end clear Okay, because you can pivot through a unit even an enemy unit But you have to end clear of the other bases and be an inch away Right, so it's a challenge especially with the base size that big. Yeah, they're heavy infantry, so they're large I think yeah, of course. It's a big space. Mm-hmm Maybe you can't do what you think you can do So what's he gonna do about these snow foxes? They're just in the way now That's the problem is that he Has to charge them Uh, it has to double charge them basically or well, that's that it looks to me like it's a flank for the ceremonial guard Which would require him to turn his flank towards Yeah, the snow trolls and possibly his rear And he doesn't want to do that at all. No I mean All right, I suppose you could have backed up and just let the fire element fire element was in but yeah He could have backed up if the other yeah, we just moved them close. Yeah I imagine those are the corsairs uh Who would have thought that these foxes these damn foxes just getting in the way causing lots of problems That's why everyone wants them. Yeah. They're only on the Klansman sprue and yeah We could charge 50 pounds a piece for a box of Seven oh yeah. Okay, great. Right. There you go. It's magic website monday. That's it. Yeah After this game, we're we're going to the warehouse. We're just gonna start popping them off the frame. Yeah. Yeah Mix shift boxes No, yeah, so he's he's had to do that hasn't he really I think oh the tom just pointed out that's a flank, sir Oh, no Because you have to charge the arc that you're yeah, yeah, you know Is he gonna do it? Yes, he is I mean it will he will be able to I mean he'll take the snowflakes out and be able to reposition but does that mean he's then Does that mean the trolls have then got the flank? I guess it does doesn't it? Well, here's the I think that the mistake that he just made is by charging the fire elementals in yeah, uh Because now He is gonna have a very difficult time turning Those ceremonial guard in a way that they're gonna fit. Yeah anywhere With the fire elementals there. Yeah, because he's gonna have to roll a random number to shuffle the the fire elementals sideways if he if he could Which is his best bet and if he rolls a one there and only nudges down an inch. Yeah, the ceremonial guard, I you know I I would maybe In the best case scenario just turn them around to face the bottom of the camera So it's a front and a flank. Yeah, not a flank in the rear Yeah, yeah, but still just terrible Yeah, and I think as well you got there The ancients up near that frost fang just spinning around at the minute. Yeah, you never want to be in that position just Desperately spinning around and doing what to do. It's a real masterclass by tom here. Yeah I mean, this is good. You know if you're at home and you want to get some tips This is the sort of thing to watch really Because it's not like I suppose obviously we had elliot. You stay on the stream very very good player elliot Obviously and that's why he's up there in the top of the table But he uh, he had a lot of units there a lot of options. Yeah, what's good with tom's is, you know, he hasn't got a lot of He's got 15 drops But the amount of work he's doing with those 15 drops is really really good to To force Steven into awful positions even little things like the snow foxes. Yeah. Yeah So it looks like he's shooting those must be more stairs down there Where so at the top of the screen? Oh, they're called stairs. They saw you not the ancients. Okay It could be Yeah, if he rolls snake eyes on the foxes That's right. Sorry. We um, we missed the phoenix getting taken off as well. We did. Yeah We're gonna have to go back and watch it ourselves and see where things I think what did that happen I think a lot so much was happening in that turn from tom that um, we were rambling about national dishes and yeah I think that yeah. Yeah. Yeah We're getting easily distracted The phoenix just now that it wasn't like some kind of spicy chicken And then I might get that might be when we're talking about food. So this was like it's the sky lord onto those foxes come on Oh, come on He's done it. Yes. He's done the foxes Take that you stupid little dogs He would have got yeah, I mean that Magician or would you come yeah, no point in going forward. Is it at least you've got some options now Well, I think the option that tom is going to take is to take that thing into the sky lord Wait a minute. Hang on. Is this a is this an announcement for everyone? So oh wait a minute Yes, everyone So we've had four hundred and sixty four Three hundred and sixty. Oh my god. Oh, what that's dirty Three eighty. Yes. Well, there we go everyone at home. So the beard took the was so that's Andy who's uh, running the event here for us It's a firestorm Duped us into thinking it was four hundred and forty Uh, it actually increased it by a hundred. What what what I did like initially when we were like four hundred and forty We were like, yeah, that's that's doable. That's that seems reasonable. Yeah, we didn't even bark at it. It was just that makes sense So, uh, there we go. So that's the good news So it's the pack hunters that we think took off the uh Took off the phoenix probably. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good target. That's really interesting because Mod was saying that it's like the underrated unit But actually like you were saying the fact that they can do a bit of a mix of both by charging or shooting Particularly when you they are an underrated unit. I think that they're a very good unit Yeah, I think all of those unit types are very good units the corsairs included. Yeah And I guess it's maybe it maybe it's that thing of exchanging the short bows for javelins And that's what really piercing is really nice The way that tom plays them patiently. Yeah You know yesterday, I talked about the the twilight kin blade stalkers. Yeah, uh You don't want to be as patient with them. They don't have the steady aim So they can't back up and shoot with same effectiveness But if those ancients were across from me in that battle and I hit on threes instead of fours And wound anything on fours now that defense six looks a lot more appealing for me to go charge out for it So while they're similar units, they can function completely differently. Yeah, and that that was really the key of what We wanted to do separate the armies that you know very similar units, but they play very differently now. Okay, so Stephen did take out the snow foxes in the middle Now Yeah, this this is a mess If he's choosing to turn facing here What yeah, because what what the He can change facing he can go forward directly forward Where he's gonna go because they obviously can't pivot Is he gonna I I may have tried to do a d6 forward to jam up the d6 forward on the Fire elementals. Yeah Maybe I'm just as lost as he is right now Because I don't see a good good solution for that Clean up. I think he said I'm I'll figure this out in a minute. Let me yeah, look at some other things Because yeah, that frost thing that's way over there could see into the rear of the fire elementals Yeah one of them too so potentially at the minute those poor Ain't those paws so many will guard are gonna get flanked and in the rear from the troll Off of a hill Tom mean down. Yeah, what a mean that's two three one ones with triple attacks Like I said, the worst case scenario. He just turns them around. Yeah, that he's gonna front in a flank I mean what I'm really again, you know, we keep saying I You can tell why tom's such a good player because using Seeming a little chap unit like the They're the snow. It was all to do with those snow foxes has now resulted in all this kind of Absolute yeah chaos. Yeah, Steven I've done that a lot with uh revenant cavalry for undead because they can you know They're they're fearless 14 nerve and I will park them in front of two units right at that split somebody's put them side by side So you can look see if he can He's gonna remove his unit. Uh, he is changing face. Okay. Yeah, so he's only I say only yeah only gonna get a flank He's trying to see can I do this in a way that puts you To me. I felt like there was a little bit of a slide there He wasn't pivoting on the center and that's why tom stood up and said, I don't know buddy that corner That corner would be kissing over top because you can end within an inch on a reform Tom's looking at it and saying That's a that's a real mess for steven. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I'm curious to see if tom is going to I don't want to say allow it but but stay okay with that Because I'm not sure that he's not drifted the unit a little bit. Okay. I guess Lois in the comments. It's a it's a hard unit. Yes. Okay, so he said you can only come like that. Oh, no, he's Okay, let's go. Yeah. Yeah thumbs up from tom there Because the way that he had it I think that he Sort of floated it back a little bit, which it's a danger because If if you're doing those things we played a lot of games on universal battle. Yeah Okay So he's gonna double charge with the trolls and frost bang there We think that's more ancient. Well, I'm on triple. Wow. Okay. Yeah So you got two frost fans. So that's a that's a thing on frost bang He's also got a rear now With the pack hunters. Yeah Then I'm curious to see if he's gonna take I don't know if they'll fit Okay, so that's another frost fan coming in. So trolls in the front. Yeah, I was gonna say are you gonna take that one tom? Yeah, he has to Yeah And then the trolls would pivot and hit and then slide down so You've got a feel for steven there. I do. Yeah, I really do really clever clever play from tom just using those And I think was it Was it the bait of going in with the fire elementals and the foxes that yeah, yeah Maybe held off with the fire elementals, which would have given you more options to leave the snow foxes Yeah, let the ceremonial guard reform the way that you need them to yeah And I would have slid the fire elementals down Yeah to the side and not charge them in with a surge or anything like that And again that You know, you got the other lord on frost bang there. Let's just been moving around Kind of causing problems at the top there sure Hasn't it hit and he's also scoring too. Yeah. Yeah, and it looks like just without one move the the trolls Down at the bottom with the charge and both of those frost fangs are also scoring at this point. Yeah, chucking there Yeah, I think nobody's it's pretty close. Yeah, the majority of the unit. So only half and have to be over that center line So let's put the thane into the sky lord Yeah, that was no brainer. No all he has to do is one wound and then so we think this is tom's turn four I do yeah, yeah, the the thane is not mighty. So the sky lord could Charge through it. Yeah, um I think the thane actually has a chance to take it off. Yeah. Well, if he somebody had some wounds on the snow foxes Yeah, yeah thane three attacks hitting on threes Cushing one Yeah, probably even if he does one damage. I mean it's It's enough for the nerve test. Yeah So tom's moved up the other pack hunters nerve on the No, it's nerve on the episodes on the ancients. Yeah, I think he'd been shooting them. Yeah She doesn't have to do a whole lot. Okay. So he's on the this looks like the thane Once come on come on I think it's he's put damage down So I don't think he's done it. He's the sky lord survives. Yeah. Yes Oh, he's wavered though. I think I guess That was the one unit I hope would survive until the end We're still alive I'm not sure for how long though now He's used that other unit of snow foxes to screen the flank of his pack hunters from the fire elementals too. Yeah right in the middle Just to buy himself enough time. Yeah, really clever use of screening actually there. Yeah Any game updates wrong? Uh, yeah, sorry. I just got one. So it's now three two So that was a quite a big update. Yeah, that's the thing with the kids football it It's quite fast. It's almost like a american football style score. So he ends up being like, you know, 12 two or something Let's just check the comments Yeah, so jerry says, uh, it's fascinating times smaller forces have been perfectly positioned Since turn one and really caused steven issues Yeah, I mean In fact, I mean it is, you know, like old jay says it is a masterclass I mean, yeah, if you're watching this and you want some tips. Well, this is the thing to watch really And like I said, yes, we had eliot on yesterday. He just had a lot of stuff It wasn't yes, he was baiting people and getting into positions But actually we talked about john and how unfortunate it was with his basillians I think he he would have been doing more of the stuff with tom getting behind the back lines and stuff like that But he was just unfortunate with his roles. Yeah In fact, I don't know where john's ended up, but um in the table I did feel sorry for you You really have to keep your combat reform in mind before you even make a charge If if I either take this unit off, where am I ending up? Or if I don't take this off, where am I ending up? And that's that's a huge part of kings award that I think a lot of people underestimate Yeah So this must be one of the numerous charges into the uh I think that may have been the flank from the Oh, so the trolls took off took off the corsairs. Yes, the corsairs have gone so means uh Steven now has got Obviously sky lord left At the minute the ceremonial guard is still there, but we'll have to see he's counting up his damage This is probably the troll on the front. Yeah absolutely nasty stuff He's he's grabbing a big old bucket of dice. I think he's counting. This is the rear attack It's a 36 36. Yeah on fours Thunder's charged one And they're stealthy as all the pack hunters have been like that pack finder stealthy They're a really underrated unit. Yeah, possibly. Yeah Especially for the point. Yeah Yeah 145 should be about half of these He's doing the maths in your head. Yeah He's done much much higher than half So 12 running Uh, I guess Yeah, they're gone. I mean that was Almost a foregone conclusion. I guess really So that leaves Steven with his fire elementals his mage priest The sky lord is the we all want to survive until the end of the game And the ancients up at the top there and it's not looking nice now for those poor Elementals Yeah, would you have turned around did you already just thinking about that sky lord maybe He could be but You have to worry about he's done sideways here. Yeah Just a couple inches Oh, I guess Maybe he's thinking get the he's trying to start the way. Yeah, he's trying to clear his own gaps I think that's the one thing with tom's game. He seems to all be thinking ahead doesn't he like always thinking He seems to think very quickly. Yeah, that's the thing. He doesn't you know, a lot of players that play this way Yeah, tend to take their time on the clock and that can be a downside But oh so somewhere on the table is firebrand. I think maybe that's coming over the Maybe that was yeah coming up there right there. Well, I guess you put firebrand in the mage priest somewhere And they've just been Yeah, maybe it's firebrand. Yeah, I think it is actually firebrand in the middle in the mage priest of the bottom 42 now on the football Is that your son's team? Yeah. Yeah, that's something. Yeah See, this is just a sort of service we provide, you know live sports live gaming Start a new sports network. I can give uh lantern falcons scores later on as well for the people. Yeah Yeah, so my eldest son chose the falcons because one the first game we watched them They were winning by a significant amount and then ended losing And then since then I'm not going to say he regressed his decision. But yeah, we'll see. I'm a steelish fan. You're a ravens fan Unfortunately, I'm a steelish fan at least right now. No, I mean, I was a bit worried about being a ravens fan at one point, but uh, they seem to uh Brown can actually catch the ball now 52 Lightning fast strikes. Yeah It's my son's in goal. So I just worry when the the other the other one goes I see So, uh, this is nice to see the score going up the other way Uh mod says any updates from the halfling on halfling civil war on table one. We might need big no Oh big dog. Hang on I bet he's got Big dog. Do you read me big dog? So this is the walkie talkie. He may not even have a turned on big dog. Do you read me? No, he doesn't I'll pop my head out the window. We're not the window. I'll pop my head out the door. Yeah Again, we're We're in the body hot the hot closet. Yeah the hot box So steven's gone into the troll prime With the fire elementals I'd like to know where firebrand is If she's on the table Let's see how these do Decent number of hits any vicious Just the one Let's see if steven can get a lucky nerve roll once in this in this game It's a re-roll. There is Oh, no Oh, no I was just hoping for him for kill points Rob is back with the report They were anxiously awaiting So the halfling on halfling battle looks like uh That's going to dan. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard and invade. I I don't know how he could have Yeah, there's a lot of uh elliott's units under the table. Well, the good news is elliott is a rules committee member Yeah, and if he feels like there's a problem with aeronauts, uh, I'm sure we will Emergency address it. Yeah, we may have a meeting Like what like a 12 p.m. Yeah. Yeah Because I'm sure elliott will have a lot to say. Yeah Most of which we already know yeah and have already changed technically So we'll find out I think there's there is the opportunity for Last minute tweaks because yeah in a tournament you will Because people will better feel yeah, and and they will be nasty with them. And you know, maybe not as nasty as they're being in play testing. Yeah so, uh Damn me. Tom is closing the door I mean, he's talking steven. He's kicking that door. Sure. I think he's giving him a nightcap and yeah, yeah Signing him a lullaby. He's uh This isn't the sort of lullaby I'd want. No, I think the uh nightcap would be uh That's a bit of arsenic and it's like it's like that's front flanking rear again on both units Five three full time. Okay. That's good. That's good I can uh, I can relax now for that one. I feel bad for tom here. He didn't have any room to charge in that other frost fang No, it wouldn't fit jerry, uh Just says there there is no problem with the aeronauts. I've just put my order in that fine. Just leave them Yeah, we'll just uh, we'll leave them as uh regular Keep getting in. In fact, let's improve the let's put them on three plus. They hit on three plus We'll give them what let's increase their speed They can go nine. That's at seven now nine. Yeah, I think nine. That's helpful That beats cavalry, you know most cavalry speed. So let's no, I think it's good uh, so matt james Had a very good result on his game as well. Did it good another rules committee member I think obviously we've got no uh, no more results in at the minute, but he did He'd whiz to the top of the table after he was playing charade So we're gonna see now what uh I mean, you know 430 attacks look like How many I I don't know. Oh Jesus, I'd say 30 from the snow foxes. Yeah So they're in the back of the snow fox or they're they're they're in the back. Yeah, yeah in the back 36 from the Trolls in the side. Yeah I mean, this is a complete Route it looks like it'll be. Yeah So attrition points will be max So this is gonna a 20 nil is it? Yeah I think that's actually this is tom's first 20 nil of that I mean, this is the sort of time you want it really isn't it? Yeah, it's it's looking likely Yeah, the tom and dan are probably going to be playing each other next. Okay Which would be very interesting to see we Yeah, we may not end up with that. I know tom's just played on this table. So Which is not really fair to him. No, I'm not really fair to dan. No, honestly since he knows it Yeah, I guess this is the sort of time for tom to be coming out with these big scores Did he roll snake eyes on the On the fire elementals Did I don't know if he's moved on to Because it looks like maybe he's moved on To the other unit there Yeah, should I check? Yeah, find out because my roving reporter martin isn't answering his walkie-talkie. Oh He's fine He's useless big big dog is fine useless and it could be that he just didn't He's still been rolling on the other unit. It's hard to say you get a little lost with all the dice rolling Rob's got the appropriate pointing going on. It's just buckets of dice at this point Okay, so he's actually doing the ancients And he double wanded it. Yeah. Yeah double wonder on the ancients. So they've survived Doesn't make too much of a difference other than you know, steven might be able to get some kill points out of it, but yeah he said Fire elementals did not have the same luck. No, I thought he did it and He was saying he was thinking positively And that's what was giving them the double ones. Yeah. Yeah, I think uh Tom was saying that's his fourth double honor of the tournament But I think yes, he was saying he had two in one game So now these are all repositioning You know double ones they it matters In those very important critical moments But at this point Yeah, I think tom's scoring with everything except for the trolls on that Yeah, sort of right side of the center morning farmers Jerry or jane big dog needs to go to the vet. Yeah, big dog Jesus big dog needs to sort himself out Did I check what turned there on? No, I didn't actually I got too carried away by talking about the I believe they're going into five right now Okay, so this is turn five. Okay, so Stephen went first, of course. Yeah So obviously the ancients will be devastated Taking as a yes taking them to six attacks. Yeah Who did you go for your last one would you go for the thing from the frostfang maybe? or the pack hunters You know at this point It doesn't make a huge difference. They've got similar nerve levels. The pack hunters have higher unit strength I think they're currently unit strength two Yes That could be something that's changing High or low could be could be higher could be Because you'll notice that was a downside to the regiments for those unit types The course areas are also unit strength to be nice if they were a little bit. Okay a little bit higher interesting Rob is seeing the shift already in his head. Yeah Yeah, like say it looks like Stevens You know if he brings his army next year, it's gonna be very different. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah And that's a beauty of a clash of kings. It can make you relook at units and Units that you might not have thought about before and obviously they become Really viable options No last-minute revenge there. No, not quite So he's still got the mage priest Uh, this is the mage priest hang on. I can't be that must be the uh, I don't know what that is Oh, it could be the uh, I don't know because he hasn't got um Something down there at the bottom something down there that I think that's the mage priest by that firebrand Is it I thought firebrand was down at the bottom Uh, yeah Firebrand has dual list. Oh, okay. So against the thing was rolling Ten attacks. Right. Okay. Thanks. All right There we go. We've got to the bottom of that So dual list is you double your My attack individuals in melee this unit's double the number of attacks, right? Okay individuals which Frostfang lords are not right. Okay. So it doesn't help there. No So tom's turn five now Tom says I don't want to roll this many dice. I don't need to they're already devastated. Yeah, I just need to put one damage on them Yeah, just yeah, basically So just move everything else into scoring. Yep. I have to imagine he wants to take firebrand off Yeah, obviously firebrand won't score, but it's just a nice. He's charged with the frostfang. Yeah Yeah If he wants to really clean it up and make it a 2300 point Kill obliteration. Yeah. Yeah, he needs to do it About say this was you know last year the first game we had On the sunday was kill which caused some problems Uh, it's almost like tom's forgotten that and it's just gone back to doing kill. Yeah He thinks oh, it's sunday morning. It's time for kill. Sure Snow foxes, of course have pathfinders. So they just ran right through everything. Yeah Yeah, I don't care I mean, I think we're gonna see a lot of lists suddenly with lots of snow foxes in yeah So this is into this is firebrand firebrand likely only for damage not great and looks like She's still there Okay Half an hour left of this one, but I think we're gonna wrap this one up Pretty quick barely shortly So this was like firebrand again And yep Well, we think it's firebrand was it firebrand it was firebrand the first one may have been a mage priest Firebrand just killed the thing That was in the Prior to and that was the duelist. Yeah, okay So now we're into the That was the mage priest, I think in the middle then So yeah, he's going for a complete. Yeah, why it was That's how the red mist has descended. Yes so I mean I Think this has been a really good game to watch if you want some High level There we go. And there's the shake a little bit of a smack on the hand there from tom. Yeah, maybe that's his token things I mean this was a really really good game. Sorry for what I've done to you. Yes. Yeah Yeah, let's still be friends. Yeah, think about that sportsmanship. Yeah Well, steven didn't pick up the unit, but I'm pretty sure they're gone. Yeah. So That now that ends the game. Yeah immediately so Yeah, I think now they're just working out who's in But yeah, what You know, if you if you want to see kings of war played at a high level that was it there was it Yeah, that was really really good very very good game. Well done to tom And you can see why he's one of the most feared players I'd say Oh, I wouldn't want to come across him. Yeah, no, I just I'd probably just line up and shake his hand I would do it just to learn something. Yeah, I suppose. Yeah. Yeah, it would be interesting just teach me tom Yeah, I mean, I think if you you can go back rewatch this game see what tom's does with his positioning there are some players that Think too hard and I tom is thinking so quickly and I think that A strategy you can use against some of those players that are that are like him that play at that sort of a level That think as hard as they do is to do something really strange really weird. This is throw them off. Okay, and and Take take them out of the game a little bit. I don't think that would work on him No, no, I'm not it's it I'm going to make an odd comparison to darts now I quite like watching darts and that would be a thing where if you've got a really fast player You put I mean you can't really do it here, but what you're doing darts is you purposely slow the game down Yeah, so, you know, you take a long time to walk up to the occy You do things like Even like dropping your darts putting your different flights and not changing your flights all the time Because it just gets them out of their rhythm. Sure. So maybe there's something you can do with that one Where yes, okay, you can't because we're on clocks you can't slow it the game down, but you can just do things where it makes them think Maybe why why they that's a really weird thing to do now. Luckily because I'm are you seeing that I don't see yeah Now luckily because I'm a bad player. I might be doing that things all the time So maybe Tom would be like, wow this guy's seen something. I'm not but the truth is I I don't know what I'm doing So there we go. So that was a really Thoroughly enjoyable game. Good game to kick things off on the sunday morning. So We had a slightly earlier start today We've got an earlier lunch. So we're actually having lunch about half 11 So let me tell you the times assuming that we're all on time today We will be back Hang on I've got to get my schedule here Just bear with me please Viewers so we will be back at 12 30 With push so the push scenario is at 12 30 Uh, we will be judging the best painted. We've got some best painted stuff to do Oh, here we go I said we don't get a copyright strike for uh, youtube. Yeah, I'm sorry um, yeah, so we'll be back at 12 30 with push And uh, we'll see who we can get again. What you know, we've already had Tom's just been on the top street the top table. So, uh, we'll see we'll find some interesting match up Yeah, if Matt James has snuck up the table, we might see Matt James. I'll be good. So he's got kingdom's a men list Um If not, we'll have a look at someone else. Yeah, I'm getting there mom So we'll we'll keep it along there. We'll keep it among the tops today. We won't go uh, we won't go down the list, but uh We'll give tom a break from the top table because it is hot up there. It is very hot Yeah, so thank you very much for joining us this one and we will see you again At 12 30. Thank you everyone. Cheerio Hello. Hello. Hello everyone. We are back for round Five now. Yeah of clash of kings 2021 Thank you to everyone that's been joining us so far for some good chats conversations And we are back on the top table with another northern alliance army this time But a different player obviously we've lost big dog. He's down Yeah, so martin is playing this time. We had a couple of last minute dropouts there And i'm just gonna move that. I wanted to get him on the stream. He refused I think people want by this time people want to see good games. Oh, yeah, that's a good point So we're meant to be learning. This is meant to be a learning experience now not uh seeing martin Um, so yeah, we've got uh, so robert and chris are currently in third and fourth So robert is in third and chris is in fourth. It should be a very good game. Yeah, uh, so we've got uh, Robert with northern alliance and chris with elves. So I know Nothing about elves. All right, I'll take them. Yeah, you'll tell me all about these and obviously northern lions I basically know now Oh that's child's burger You can go. I was hoping it was silent. You can go pick that up. All right So kyle's gonna have to eat his burger and munch his chips So, um Yeah, so this uh scenario is push which i'll get kyle to explain in a moment so uh in first and second place we just currently got Dan king's flying circus and then tom is uh Up there with the northern alliance and obviously we just watched tom last game really good game A lot to learn from that one as well And we'll see what we learned from this one. So I'll quickly go through Uh Robert's list because hopefully I know a little bit about those from the northern alliance So you've got a regiment of pack hunters, which we saw Um tom using to good effects in the last game. You've got two troops of ice skin hunters That's how so kyle will be able to tell us what they're like Just saying kyle. He's got two troops of ice skin hunters. What are we? Um So he's got elite ice tipped arrows pathfinder and scouts on those so again one of those Similar style units that the pack hunters were okay the ice skin hunters though are the elf brand of that So they've got elite built into them And what's amazing about this elite is it's just plain elite It's not elite ranged or elite melee. Okay folks. Okay, they look Pretty nice and so you've got speed six melee four ranged four Defense three. I mean they've got some weakness Yeah, as you can see their points are almost as much as a regiment of pack hunters pack hunters are basin 145 the troop of the ice skin hunters are 135 And the elite does a lot there for that For that price tag. Okay, so 24 inches range obviously is a big deal and then the ice tipped arrows That's the the big thing unsteady aim as well. It's a 30. So a theory of 30 range. They they can move and shoot Tremendous range and they're going to slow your opponent down. Okay, so interesting. Uh, and then the other one's got fire oil To stop all the regeneration. Yeah, it's just a it's a cheap 5.90. I never really Thought about using fire oil. That's quite nice. It's it's one of the less popular ones because it's so situational You have to run into an opponent that has regeneration But I suppose I mean what I mean most Most of the armies we've seen on the stream this weekend about regeneration some form or another I think I don't think that chris's list has any Okay, typical. Yeah, of course. There we go. Uh, what would have in the elves? I don't think there's anything else that could have been one of my only connect questions That's not which of these units has regeneration. Yeah, I'll remember that for next year Um, he's got a regiment of snow foxes, which we saw tom used to fantastic effect last time Two hordes of ice elementals, so we didn't you say maybe you would have had these instead of the trolls Yeah, that's that's my thoughts, but um I like the fearless on them Yeah, the trolls have you have to deal with pay for waiver mitigation or Just deal with it. Uh, they are not as offensive as trolls though So that's probably why tom one of them he needed something that was actually going to be able to hit something and pick it up Yeah, uh, so that worked the ice elementals are more of that mid ground play. Okay, but they have got the icy breath. So that means they Can do range down Close combat. I guess a little bit. So the icy breath is is a shorter range. Yeah, so that that sort of hurts Um, but you can use that combination of icy breath and then surge them into combat. Yeah, okay double up Nice, we'll see if you get the chance to do that. Okay. Um, then you've got tundra wolves troop of those slightly slightly different, I guess to the uh, the foxes The quietest. Yeah, they're great faster. They're faster. They're more offensive They hit on threes instead of fives. Okay, they've got thunderous charge. No vicious, but I see them as like an early missile. Yeah, okay, depending on how you see them Yeah, okay If you really need to jam something up 115 points nine attacks Actually looking at sort of how tom was using the snow foxes and then the tundra wolves here And I always bring it back to goblins, but I've obviously got my more beast patch some of these regiments at the minute I think actually they probably better as troops like you say to shoot forward and do some damage like that Uh, you've got a horde of frostfang cavalry with the brew of haste That takes them to say that takes them to speed seven to speed eight. They are speed seven. That's that change on there Uh, but then it's confusing me. There's sometimes a change in some sense. It's wild charge. It's if you upgrade them. Okay, so They're going up to 17. Okay That is nasty 17 inch charge. Yeah on a very big unit Uh, you got the ice king bulk throwers two of those So his whole list is really built around The reduced movement. Yeah. Yeah stopping which which is extremely painful against things like dwarves slow speed elves at speed six He's just slowing down a bit. Yeah, we'll see. It's not that it's not that bad Two lord on frostfangs, which we saw last time Uh, and then the ice queen Who's loaded with all the spells you've got the conjurer's staff heal windblast blizzard And replace icy breath with surge and I guess that's to get some surge shenanigans. Yeah, that's That's that's tough whenever you put that many Spells on one unit. Yeah, you're running the risk that you wasted points on something That's 180 points in total for that If only there was something you could do To allow a mage to cast two spells in a turn If only If only And then you've got serakina the ice queen So she's on I think was she She was introduced in how to drift. Yes She needs a nickname Uh Serakina well if you can come up with a nickname for serakina, let us know in the chat. Yeah So what's uh, what's standing out on that list for you kyle really stands out the The the frozen mechanic. Yeah, they're looking to use here. Um Speed of the ice elementals is six what you're trying to compare though when you look at that is What units you know if the ice elementals are six and the elves are six Yeah, the frozen mechanic allows you to maintain the charge. Yeah. Yeah, so you dictate win that. Yeah Yeah, that's the whole real idea behind northern alliance We will see how effective that is because I think this elf list looks pretty good So this is uh christ is christ christ is God you can tell it's been two days Game five two days. I'm losing my voice Uh forest guard three troops So what the forest guard doing nothing special. Okay, they're Cheap 105 points for melee three 10 attacks thunderous one. Yeah elite pathfinder. That's They're a little offensive chaff. Okay, uh highly susceptible to shooting which we've got a little bit of nerve 11 13 Yeah, I mean if if i'm robert I'm looking for my icekin hunters and pack hunters to pick these things up before they're able to charge Yeah, okay, we'll see what happens Uh, you've got three hordes of palace guard One with gusting. Okay. This is gross. Right. This is what this is what stands out here. Yes. Okay, right Uh, you've got macaws posting the caterpillar chalice of wrath, which we've talked about a lot. I'm an expert on Uh, we've got the one with a dwarven ale. It's like it's that's to keep them just Again, we talked about the uh salamanders ceremonial guard guard that horde how they also took waiver mitigation. Yeah These guys have a 22 24 nerve. Yeah, so even though the defense is four that nerve is so so high. Yeah that When you allow them to stay in combat They've only got 25 attacks instead of 30, but they're hanging on trees with elite. Yeah It's I mean they you're gonna put 12 damage on anything. Yeah So what's what's uh robert gonna have to do with those? It's tough. Yeah, I would try to pick them up one at a time the way that chris is deployed so far here It looks like he is going heavy on that flank. Right. Uh He's chosen a flank denial deployment. That's what the you know, what you typically see there Um, I guess the one that's coming through the forest will be the one where mac, uh, the person in the caterpillar I would assume so. Yeah, that's he would have to be awfully silly to not do that But you never know Um, okay, then you got the the reny and seaguard regiment Interesting unit. A lot of people are not highly rated on these right. They just don't think that they're all that great Um, I happen to be in that camp. I would like to see them improve to be nice if they had some adjustments to them. Um Low attacks low ranged attack or ranged stat. Yeah Melee isn't very attractive in the first place, but they are cheap. It's a good unlock. Yeah They're not a regular in the elf list. So it's it's a good unlock for other things. It doesn't seem like Um, chris has had that problem though. He hasn't really needed the unlocks. No Um, you've got two regiments of battle cats. So I guess these are these are foil to the boxes. Yeah Uh forest shamblers A regiment there of That's what we call thick chef. Okay. What's the difference? Two C's. Okay thick The difference is when you you know, when you look at the battle cats and their defense two 1012 Yeah, the forest shamblers two defense five. Yeah fearless 14. Okay, so Just for another, you know 40 points there. You're buying yourself quite a lot of survivability Sometimes you want your chaff to stick around So that's what that that option is. Okay You got an elven king with the mace of crushing and on a horse not with a shard blade Okay, we just saw that out. So the shard blade is an upgrade that the elven king can take that allows him to hit on twos Wow. Yeah That sounds pretty tasty. Yeah, that's very good But he's chosen the cheaper option mace of crushing with this kind of unit You want to make sure that you can reliably put one point of damage on something. Yeah, so Really that that is just as effective for less points. That's speed speed nine as well. This is going around Trying to get around the back. Yeah Of course some trouble there. You got two elven arch mages one with the inspiring talisman talisman Both with bane chant and then lightning bolt five And then finally the dragon kindred lord So this is big titan which you can see towards the bottom of the picture there Yeah, so Not a lot of you know i'm i'm used to i guess i normally as a A layman would expect things like dracons Lots of dragons flying around None of that in this elf. No, no, no he's gone for a foot grind Uh the palace guard hordes. Yeah, the palace guard hordes are going to do the work here Okay, uh, I I do have a little teaser. I could give to elf players Just tiny one tiny one because they were quite upset that the Elven arch mage. Yeah, you know the head of their magical society. Okay was only spellcaster level two Which is a shame. Yeah, you'd really think that The elven arch mage should be the the strongest possible type of mage, wouldn't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah So maybe that was fixed. Okay. Yeah Just a tiny one So, uh, so the scenario is is push Uh, and what is i'll tell you what carl. I'm gonna let you eat your burger. No, no, no, it's okay. I can I can explain the scenario and then you can address my burger. Okay address it like addressing the haggis with uh With some ketchup and mayonnaise here. Well, you're having the national dish. Yeah, yeah, the national American dish Push your putting tokens potentially putting tokens in your own units Okay, and you it's similar to invade but with loot tokens So you want to try to push them across the board the other side. Okay You could load them all up on one unit. Yeah, you can spread them out fine It's quite confusing with chris because he looks a little bit like tom robinson. He kind of does. Yeah a few times We came up behind me. Yeah. Uh, I thought it was tom. Yeah So don't be confused people at home. This is this is actually chris Tom is so good. He's brought two armies and is playing in two separate tables. Yeah I think I mean that that's the future isn't it a bit like you have those grand masters in chess They play two games at once. Yeah. Yeah, the future of kings of war. We get we should try that. Yeah I can only just keep it one I mean, you could do one of those small games true Is that mayonnaise the chips on mayonnaise the burger? Like a Mary Rose sauce we've called it. I wish that uh, there was an onion tomato. Yeah But that's all right. That's all right So if people come and say chris has got a really lovely army, I haven't had a I didn't have a close look at uh Chris's army. It's all very red. It's good to uh, so we've got red be really good. Yeah Classic. It's like the old football sort of uh, matches you've had So a lot of the regiments moving up there. I guess they'll be the forest guard. I assume maybe the I think they was one of those palace guard hordes. Oh, is it? Oh, is it just into was I oh, it might be it might be two rich separate regiments. Yeah I see that's interesting questions. Do you think that makes it harder to move them around accurately? I do. Yes. Yeah, okay Some people enjoy it It's easier to hobby that way. It gives you a lot more. You know, you spend that time building the unit It's it's now yours to you. Yeah multiple ways It's not as you could magnetize them stick them down to a big base Yeah, you never know when a clash of kings back is going to come out and ruin the unit that you have and I mean that's the aim of the clash of kings, isn't it to ruin We just want to make ruins everyone's hobby worse time Yeah, I think yeah, I think he writes actually I think you oh, wow, that's really confusing That's a regiment that splits up into two troops Yeah, he must uh Must be doing it that way some people do it I'd rather have some some nice secure movement raise. Yeah Which mantic cells by the way For a very reasonable price very reasonable Um, yeah, I'm just wondering that the minute with my nuggets I put those into two troops but um As I was mentioning if there was a horde option that'd be quite comfy that'd be quite a Quite a big challenge. I guess to a regiment two troops So I'm going to I'm going to chat for a minute while Kyle eats his burger. This this is this isn't the part of the ASMR sort of thing. We don't want to hear you eating his burger So this we've got one more game after this And then we are finished for today. So we've just been Going around judging the painting competition, which was very very difficult You know when we're still undecided on a couple so we might have to go back out again after this one to to fight it out in the car park But some very I mean the fact it is so hard for us to decide shows what a nice set of armies do it a particular favorite I liked um Unfortunately, I can't remember the name the guy who'd done a mutant rap being but based on remi from ratatouille So he had a chef's hat on I really enjoyed that It's worked out Nice to see some creativity really on the different ones so we've got a Yeah, best army best monster best titan It's like the brush with death categories we have when we do that So brush with death there for the general public will return in may The next year so we didn't do the November one because we're probably not going to have what we're not having an open day so it sounds like Chris had this alphalist at LGT to the london grand tournament recently So spellcaster levels spellcaster levels are something that was introduced in third edition and some spells Uh Can be used slightly differently and upgraded depending upon your spellcaster level basically So if you're a spellcaster zero you means you can only use very basic spells um, but um Oh, there we go. I mean steven pierce has done it spellcast levels are to do with the books How pleased with left here for more narrative play Not anymore. So there will be a bit more Spellcaster levels will have more of an impact now in clash of kings because there are some spells that have I think the amount of dicey roll changes depending upon your spell have cast a level as well The arcane library Interesting and we'll have I'm sure we'll have plenty more on that when we are on the blog shortly So chris here moving forward Rolling through some shooting already. So this is chris's turn one so we need to remember we Who's gone first because we're by turn five. We're always confused and I guess like you're saying kyle Pushes a bit more like gets the table as quick as possible Can is it a loot counter so you can pick it up drop it? Okay, so you can start You have to carry it across the other side. Don't you okay? So I guess you could use a quick unit grab it Drop it behind you Okay What I'm saying is could you so could the things like the foxes or something like that run out grab it Drop it behind them. They could and then ready for someone else to pick up next turn I don't know if that's a viable tech for shamblers. Yeah Well, you can start it in your units in a scenario right you can start the game in deployment with them already having Oh, okay. So it doesn't look like they've Don't they've got one in the middle. Do you want to find out where they are actually? It'll be useful So I like to uh, I wait till you finish your burger and then I'll go out and find otherwise Hey, you'll just be left dinner. So I think every table is the same. They've all got two uh loot counters to make it fair So Matt said he rolled a d3 in his head and it came up with a tube so Robert making good use of the official kings of war The measuring sticks there and he says something look see What the forest shamblers doing and then the Palace guard I mean, it sounds like those palace guards are going to be tough to shift Extremely. Yeah That yeah, I'm alarmed for him And it looks like typically Once again, we've got the problem that everyone's deployed right in the edge of the camera there So on the left let's say you've got a lot more Robert's done that So we should be rooting for chris since he did it towards us. Yeah, okay, so so we're gonna We're gonna support people based on where they position the things the camera. Okay, that's fine Well, so what I'm gonna do is now now kyle can actually talk. I'll go and have a look see where All the bits are What the objectives are I can do a review on the burger I just had. Oh, okay. Yeah I'd give it a solid burger out of fries Yes, spellcaster tears are gonna have a big difference From what they currently do, which is actually very little Halpy's rift was a really good preview for how they're going to work You've got spells that are going to be available in the arcane library that are widely available to everyone And based on your spell casting Level you can you can choose a different tier for a certain amount of points that will give you access to that Spell and it's going to be more powerful based on what tier you choose If you're a level three caster you could choose a lower casting Tier spell to purchase if you don't have the points for example So if you're a level three you could purchase is a level one spell But that doesn't mean that uh, you have to go all out You just definitely cannot as a level one spellcaster purchase a level three spell Okay, so I've been similar to help. Okay, so I've been out into the field Uh, and there are so there are three loot counters because it's one in the middle and then D3 So you've got the one in the middle which the forest shamblers have got You've got one at the bottom right of the picture where it must be some of the battle cats I've got that one. I see and then in the top right Uh, you've got another one there Which we can't quite see so yeah, so there are three so one in the middle and then two In the corners, basically I've got that bank. I don't know if people can hear the music at home, but we've just got some banging music Something that's I can hear it. Yeah. Yeah This is like intense. This is be like Lasham song music Anime intro Oh, we've got uh, Raphael from uh, Santiago. Hmm. We've got a real international flavor Yeah, so yeah, so you was just saying about the spell cast here introduced it in third Kind of future-proofing ourselves for a lot of the things like the keywords and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, they um May not have used them straight away, but it gives us options to do stuff in the future Which obviously we're doing a bit more in in Cluster Kings as well quite a bit more. Yeah formations and that sort of stuff We even used them in some instances just to to add new keywords Yeah, so that you could use them, right, you know, if a certain unit needed attention Maybe they needed a keyword to give them the synergy that they were looking for And while people I know aren't crazy about formations Uh, and some people love them some people. Yeah, it's it's kind of a backing forward I think that's the way that they've been done this time And there's a way that word second edition is much nicer. Uh, each of the units has points assigned to it, right? So, yeah, you know in second edition you had to destroy the entire formation to get the formation points, right? Okay. Yeah now Each unit has a point value assigned to it so that if you if you routed that unit you get the additional formation Okay, that's that unit. Yeah, that's tournament play. Yeah, it just cleaner And in the minute, it's only one formation, isn't it per army? Yes. There's only one. Keep it simple And it might stay that way. We might introduce more Because I think it was two in the lesson wasn't it? Yeah Yeah Like I was saying, you know, I was saying yes say what I like about formations is If you're just starting an army, it's a good place to start and think, okay Well, I'll do these units. It gives me this Uh, and then you can have a look and see what else you want to do on top of that We showed off the old one last night actually Uh, yes we do it. So, yeah, so we had the keynote, unfortunately Unless that's gone on fanatics somewhere. That's um, I saw some people taking pictures, but I haven't seen it on No, I haven't seen anything. People were very well behaved actually. Yeah, that's good So it looks like a bit of shooting from Robert there. He hasn't taken anything off yet I think he was rolling in there for the um For the shamblers looks like he's put some wounds on the dragon as well That probably with with the um both rowers. Both rowers So both rowers two attacks sitting on fours Blasty three elite ranged. Yeah, the elites would helps there. Yeah Yeah piercing to yeah the Obviously with the wing it and the iron sky that can make the amount of times I've had one go from a complete mess to uh Although the uh, obviously the Rock lovers rock throwers for the goblins are on fives This is awful Feels bad. It does feel that's why you can take 12 of them. Yeah, all right Okay, so a bit more quite a lot of shooting actually for this first round. Yes. I suppose you got quite a shooty list, doesn't he? Yeah with these The ice elementals. I think are short to be able to use their icy breath Yeah, I'm not sure what the range is on icy breath. Icy breath is very short. It's 10 inches. Okay, unlike other breath attack weapons. What do you think it's just out? It seems very close. Yeah Okay, looks like that probably End of Robert's turn he's packing his bits away The the thing about icy breath that can be very A very scary counter to it is it's a spell currently. Yeah, okay, and right exit That's interesting. They take damage for every hit Kind of deters you from wanting to use that. Yeah She's got quite that's amazing I suppose he's got quite a bit of shooting in this list, but not that much actually So this is the northern alliance. So you've obviously got the pack hunters the ice king hunters They were shooting Ice elementals just very short range. Yeah bolt throwers The ice queens Blizzard can do something every once in a while. Yeah So how's blizzard work then that's so blizzard's an indirect spell. Yeah So it allows you to target very long range. I think it's 36 inches right and not within 12. Okay, so It's it's 30 inches. It's it's one of those spells that Explodes like the bolt thrower Yeah, so it's only piercing one. So Not terrible But as a spell, you know, you can get some long range stuff on it I uh In a tournament that I played in with my undead my necromancer was a very key part of my undead Yeah, to be able to just throw out little heels and I did a lot of surge stuff with it turn one of a game Guy was able to see it with with over some things with blizzard and just pick the necromancer right away That long range is a is a huge thing for it So it looks like maybe chris is measuring up there to see I guess that's the dragon coming into the elementals So they're like, I mean that's anything that's on the base Should be yeah I I don't like that charge if he takes it Why is that? This is why it's a good being in this room. Yeah, I I don't know um I don't know if he's just trying to threaten something or jam it up but So 10 attacks on the dragon to me It's not going to kill those ice elementals. Yeah It is going to slow him down But if he doesn't kill them He's got some opportunity for flanks and and that's just kind of kind of crazy Uh, so jerry says some people asking when the keynote is going out So we we won't have the actual keynotes itself We won't have matt's keynote Uh, mainly because his microphone kept cutting out, but we will be going through what we revealed on the blog Uh over next week, so stay tuned So probably from about wednesday, we'll start having some information about that Uh, and ck says is there any place to look at the several lists of the tournament? Yes. This is totally this is my fault I haven't had time to upload them to tabletop to but um, I will be doing that So you can look at the event and then look at all the lists We've been a little busy Yep. Yep And so I'm a smart and wore shorts today Yeah, although I'm still I feel hotter than I did yesterday weirdly Okay, so back to Chris's turn. So we're just looking at the comments I think that's why we miss things when I keep flicking to the comments. That's my excuse Yes, that's when we miss all the keys. They don't see what we're looking at. So it's no, I know You don't see behind although normally when I do my uh live streams of the mantic open days Everyone does see behind the scenes the movie magic as I'm scrambling to upload my powerpoint presentations But today it's uh all seamless So Chris is trying to figure out what he wants to do here and You can tell just from his body language. He's pretty unsure Striking striking the beard. Yeah Okay, so the dragon's now going if I do this Getting good use of bases there Yeah, it's they're great tools. Yeah, he he saw that he still had a flank there. And so he decided that's not really a good idea Because that the frost fang lords are They're pretty stout units the high defense 5 uh 15 17, I think Uh, yeah 15 17. Yeah, so 10 attacks You're not gonna Take well, it's it's a slap fight that the dragon more than likely wins But it won't win straight away It won't win straight away and it could put him in a really bad position Okay, you know, this is where tom being patient and sort of just projecting those angles with his frost fang lord Yeah, yeah without straight going in Uh, did a really nice job in that last game that we had because he looks like that must be the uh This is quite handy for us with all these bases. We can try and work out what he's actually charging in with So that must be the the king On the mount. Yes. Yeah So that is mighty. So that means you can't just ignore him He's trying to chaff up or stop those those elementals in some way. Hmm I don't think the elementals have got I've guess because they haven't got a token or anything like that I think he's just keen to Stop them doing anymore. Sure It's a pretty key anchor point of his list. Yeah So that will find the time He's trying to have a big old think here, isn't he? Oh, I think he's possibly come across and ask Matt Gil actually Matt Gil, but they're hovering around there must be a question I mean, I'll be back shortly then. I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. So Matt will come in in a minute There's a lot of chopping of the air there. Oh, look at that I will chop him up. I will kill him. I will serve him on a platter. It'll be delicious. You're gonna eat it I'll chop it up. We'll serve it to your family. Yeah There's a lot of chopping 10 seconds to find out if Matt's going to pop in the door here. Yeah Oh, yes We'll just watching it on the stream So Okay, it's to do with the order of things that are applied So we're going to see what the chop-chop motions are Oh, they're going to struggle balancing. Oh, no This is the problem with 3d terrain. We we sort of talked to this about a little bit yesterday Is that yes, it looks lovely, but You can kind of make it difficult to actually balance your units on So thoms is not streaming tom versus dan. No, the reason for that one is is tom thoms has been on the table Um, so we took we've done that one off But well, we will be screaming obviously streaming the top one for the last game But you know, robert and chris a robert and so robert's in third chris is in fourth at the minute so And kyle's back from his chop chop question What was the question this is a good one important one. He's looking at the forest shamblers Yeah, uh who have the token. Yeah, which we know reduces them down to speed five. Yep They're also frozen. Okay. Are they then speed four? Right Technically yes, okay because you you have the the loot token applied Uh, that makes the big difference to drop you to five. Yeah, they were wanting to know the order of things if for example Just frozen take you from six to Uh, five. Yeah, and then a loot token you go to a minimum of five. Okay, fine Okay, but the problem is he picked up the loot token. Yeah by choice. Yeah Which already put him at five. Yeah, and then frozen was applied to him. Yeah, okay Interesting question. He nodded patting me on the back and said yep So that's what we're going with And how's it looking? Would you say when you saw the table? What would you say he's going on there? They're still trying to figure out what they can do right so he's he's having a pretty hard think on The best way to approach and I understand it's a very precarious turn. Yeah Okay, so he started actually putting a movement right down now to move all these stuff on makes it a bit easier So that's one of the hordes There of the palace guard. Yeah the palace guard So it looks like in the end the dragon has just decided to sit this one out That's probably a good call with the dragon. Yeah We'll see he might You might have a moment of madness, maybe So the final scenario of today is dominate. So we'll have to see We'll have that we will have the top table on for that one We'll be live streaming whoever that is So here's the dragon the oh, no, it's not the dragon. I'm going mad So he has moved the dragon now behind the sea guard So I found it just to clarify and and I was right at least that's helpful. Uh, it specifically says Uh Unit with frozen special will has minus one speed until the end of its next turn at which point The special rule is removed from the unit. No unit may have its speed reduced by more than minus one And it's given turn due to having the frozen rule Uh, although other modifiers may still apply. Okay. There you go Don't second guess yourself kyle. You knew it sometimes sometimes it makes you do it Yeah, yeah when somebody else is so unsure in front of you it makes you go. Oh Yeah, yeah, oh And then there's countless FAQs and yeah, oh things get changed Yeah, I that when uh in a dead zone tournament, so I wasn't sure about something the guy I was playing with Said it was such conviction. I was like, yeah, yeah, that must be right Yeah, and it it totally wasn't because he said it was such conviction. I was like, yeah, this this must be how it works So I think keeping the dragon back was a good call. Yeah This feels like a bit of a slow turn He's eating up a lot of clock Because what I mean what drops has he got here? He's got 14. Okay. That's amazing in my head. It seems a lot more Not sure how many Uh, oh 14 for oh 14 for both. Hmm makes it nice and easy for us. Yeah Yeah, I just think like We've been watching him move around for quite a long time here He's being careful. He's he's within striking distance to win the tournament. So he's yeah Yeah, I guess he's trying to make sure he's doing it right Sadly we uh, we had one person who was in fifth and they've had to go. Yeah to go home Which makes the person in six really happy. Yeah, yeah, they're now in fifth. Yeah, I mean what a time to go Fifth place and you just like no, no, I've gotta go. Yeah, I'm done Would you go home in fifth? Oh, no way. No I'd want a podium. Yeah, okay. Yeah, maybe I'm gonna win the whole thing but yeah I'll take it third place. Yeah, but say third is in within reach at that point, isn't it? Okay, so it looks like now we're getting on to the shooting I think maybe chris there is telling or maybe not. I'll play telling himself to speed up Yeah, cherry's saying I like the picking and choosing for who gets on the table so more varied lists and players Yeah, yeah, I suppose we don't want all the same people on the top table all the time. Sure It's nice to have different people because you see different things. You see different tactics I think tom's game was great because we we all feel like a lot from that game I've had a lot of people saying they're gonna go back and watch it to see what to do professor tom. Yeah I mean, I wonder if tom would ever do like, uh, we say like a masterclass day At month's okay. It's cute. It comes and teaches people. There are secrets. Oh, you want to oh damn it What amaze me is It's how he sees the game. I don't I don't get I haven't got that. I don't know that's something you can teach No, no, you know You can teach the ideas behind what he's doing. Yeah But for him to know to do what he did in almost every instance. It was like he saw it ahead of time. Yeah. Yeah, yeah He's saying he's from the future. It's like a time traveler. He's Know how he wins that game Yeah, okay, we'll we'll start that rumor could be So he went back and watched his live stream In the multiverse and the kings of war multiverse. He went and watched it and he was like, okay, that's what I need to do I mean listen listening to us jump probably didn't help him. But he's probably Chris right now. Yeah, okay in disguise now I am confused. Okay. Now it's gone. It's gone too far What if like they look so similar? Yeah, he's just in disguise. Okay slight disguise. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah And he's just pretending right now. He's only here to know What to do? Yeah, I think that might make sense. Yeah. Yeah. No, we'll take that So it looks like uh Chris rolling for his shooting I mean that's You know with elite it's just we roll we roll. Mm-hmm. Let's get these to hit So it looks like the king did charge into the ice elementals again, you reckon that's just to slow them up stop them It buys him a turn. Yeah. Yeah The king his nerve. I think it's 1315. I'm gonna guess. Yes. Yeah That's not bad. No, he could survive and buy himself two turns So what the ice elementals are hitting on well, they've got 18 attacks hitting on falls Christian strength one He stopped the ranged attack, which is yeah, yeah Because individuals don't actually block line of sight. No, no So I think this must be Robert's turn two So if you're a robot what you're doing here, what are you looking at? Well I think the seaguard Charging towards you. Yeah, I think that he can be patient with the ice elementals Throw out some ranged attacks to things that are in range That's full attack profiles. You know that that are available absolutely any kind of So sorry, what was that Kyle? We've got Matt Gilbert, which is getting us doing we're getting we're getting more things served to us We haven't had nice been yet served to us. I was hoping for my test match special references Not great the international audience there He's saying tom is rain man Rain man didn't trouble in the future If he's he's saying Oh, I was like ability to see and just you know if that was a subplot in rain man The actually the rain man was a time traveler. Justin Hoffman is from the future. Then I missed that Yeah So in the middle there Just like thank you charged in we want to be to think one of these frost fangs And I guess double charge in the palace guard. Yep, and I guess that will be with the Either the pack early pack hunters weren't actually So pack hunters 12 attacks thing on fours I don't like it As in terms of them doing much do you reckon they're gonna get I think they're gonna bounce. Yeah Yeah, because what's your You think your lord on frost fangs nine attacks He's got snow fox, but yeah, that's already increased it from eight to nine So nine attacks. So in total he's going in there with 21 attacks I mean, he's maybe gonna hope for a waiver or something like that, but he's got waiver mitigation on the unit He's got chalice of wrath and headstrong. He saw this through. Yeah That's the problem with these good players Always thinking things through It feels to me like cheating All this planning All this, you know I think it's I'm not very good That's all right So what's he gonna do with those other ice elementals the ones that sort of I I he hasn't really done anything yet I would be patient with them Oh So he's gonna look see if he can squeeze in uh I don't think he can. No, okay. He would he would make contact with That other unit first. Yeah, right there So he's gonna stop an inch out Which tells me he's gonna blast him. Yeah He's saying excuse me, sir. You're not an inch away. Yeah, please maintain the gap every inch counts. Yeah I nearly made a turn. I I stopped myself then We're gonna keep it clean families families watching at home. Yes, I'm sure people will be eating their sunday dinner This will be on the big tv So a lot of measuring there to see I guess that's the uh, oh there they see Frostbanks cavalry did he put he's got the brew of haste on those Oh, there we go. Bosh See will they be hindered they have strider Uh, okay fine I still don't like that one either. I think you need two units. Yeah, it's in someone else It just feel like it would have been great if he could have gone in there with the ice elementals and someone else If he had done some damage to them prior. Yeah, okay But I I suspect that the palace guard horde is gonna survive. These are both gonna counter charge Yeah, and he's gonna pick up the frostbanks. Okay So christmas first in the this is robert's turn two. Yeah Yeah, what we got with the frostbanks, they are 30 attacks. I mean it seems like a lot doesn't it? It seems like a lot, but then hitting on fours So what 15? Yeah, he's gonna wound on twos Okay So even you know 13 damage. Yeah That's still yeah 11 away from a route result Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's a good point I mean you could get lucky I suppose but you could get very lucky fours or swingy Would you I mean I suppose it hits with 20 It does 18 damage Yeah, yeah, okay Then we're in Now there's a shot It's still not a great shot because I would believe he's inspired And they haven't got brutal or anything like that. I have days at night. Yeah I mean, would you put I mean it makes them expensive Would you put something like the bruise sharpness on those or a lot of people have yeah Because that that means that you can take it into that kind of yeah, and it's good. It's gonna go away. Yeah Yeah Probably that takes up to 300 points. Yeah, that's a lot You're investing quite heavily at that point But but think about how effective it would be if he did crack open that point in the battlefield And then just turns in towards the center. Yeah and says what's next? I don't know what happened there blasted those back wind Windblast. I know sarah saracana. Yeah, whatever we need we need a sarakina sarakina Yeah Windblast So he has windblasted that measurement back. Is that it does do damage to him you can roll for damage for that He's hoping for a long surge then I would imagine. This is the icy breath. Yeah presumably into the same unit I think he knew that they were gonna bump the four shamblers so they couldn't go back too far Yeah, but that's still gonna be at least a three or four on a on a surge to get to make contact and Potentially it's kind of hard for me to see from this angle potentially. He's not gonna click. He's gonna click the Yeah, he could cut the other unit. Okay. Well, let's see what he does. Yeah, but would you have just surged first? No, I'm sorry blasted them and then surged Why is he blasted them back with the windblast? So that's that's the question is Where he's trying to make the point of contact is is the real interesting right? Which is which is closer this point or that point, you know I'm pointing on the screen that you guys can't see. Yeah Well, what we did that one year. We had a it didn't really work very well Where I could draw on the screen. But I couldn't see Where I was actually drawing so there wasn't like a thing where I could watch it. So I think that's in the future we'd like to get Could be like proper smart board like yeah, yes and so in a full newsroom. Yeah Yeah, we need With our actual field reporter big dog. Yeah. Yeah, big dog needs to be out there so you can be pitch side or battlefield side We'll get live commentary What made you make that stupid decision? No, yeah That'd be great. Yeah asking live. Yeah. So Kyle says that's a mistake. Uh, what do you feel? Big moment Oh, so he's got why I see Yeah If he's able to make contact with that first, yeah, he gets the flank and the windblast is able to push it back Right. Okay. So that was clever. I like it He apparently got exactly what he needed. Yeah Okay, so now that Seaguard looks a bit like it's in a bit more trouble. Yeah. Yeah It's swung the other way. We were We should never have doubted Robert and his skills there. Sure Why he'd really lost track of the ice queens. I didn't even think about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah So now the ice elementals 36 attacks in the side melee for totally different story. Yeah Yeah, and then maybe he does get lucky with the frost fangs Wow Imagine that that'd be a hell of a turn page turner Stay tuned folks. Yeah He's got to pick up the elven king, right? Yeah, that's highly important Yeah, then that at the minute that's sort of locking him down. It's just in the way, isn't it? It's just an irritant. Yeah, if nothing else He's clearing the way because if the frost fangs do enough damage the ice elementals can play clean up There we go the king can't Always do that first get rid of the inspiring source. Yeah, that's a good good tip. Yeah people often forget that You know, you get caught up. You're like, oh, I want to do this exciting combat here But actually yeah, get rid of I mean, I think He's not very is he very inspiring Or just no just yeah regular so he was only going to inspire. I don't think he was getting anybody else But still get rid of the inspiring. Yeah It's just a good lesson, isn't it to the order that you do stuff is important Okay, so now I think we're getting on to the combat. Yeah, so that was a that was the frost fang Yeah, I think that was maybe four. Yep This will be the pack hunters. Yeah, we do three here. What's the guess? I didn't see Okay, he's uh, he dice it almost big enough for us to see but not quite And then this is the big one 36 Okay, so you almost hear the dice being shook from here. Yeah What's he betting on this? How many is he gonna get? Hang on fours Taking quite a few out there. So all that look I'm gonna say 14. Okay So you think 14? 14 damage. Yeah, okay Oh, I think he's done too. I don't think he had enough dice then maybe that's why he's We may be rolling more He may have had 30 and then just rolled an extra six. Yeah, yeah Okay, it's good to quite like, you know dice being rolled in the middle. How many good helpful Geez, they got them all here. They I think they did Wow Yeah, that looks like they're gone. Okay, I was way off if you if you get that many. Yeah, yeah Okay, so that's one of the seaguard. Maybe he's being chained of them as well. It's kind of hard to say. Yeah, yeah No, those ice elements was to spin around it looks like the The snare foxes will stop the uh the seaguard Getting into any combat. Were they there? Were they after going or depends on what he does with The other units here. I think that he can fit a few of them in but I would back him up. Yeah, okay, and then That the pack on to the foot is leaving where they are. I think That one's a little bit tougher. Yeah, he's thinking too. Um, He might just leave him where they're at. Okay, it looks like he asked. I think he's moving on to the Now this will be a big one. Yeah Very big. Yeah So 30 30 attacks this one, isn't it? I I still don't think like it wasn't It's a risky charge. Yeah, yeah, but it's a risk that if it pays off. Yeah, he's worth it. Incredibly rewarding. Yeah Andy's got backup. Yeah that helps now either he's Taking out misses there or taking out. I think he's taking out misses So come on, man. Okay, so one two three four five six seven eight nine ten nine twelve I think maybe sixteen seventeen. Yeah. So a little bit above average. So now anything but one space really? Yeah. So it's about one to two came out. He's stacking up how many he's got. So that looks like 12. Perhaps maybe maybe 14. Maybe 15 was it. So 15. So to get him to pop. 24 is what he needs. We get nine. So he must have done it then. No. So he did get it. Yeah. And then the re-roll saved it. Well that's close then. So could we have the inspiring there at the. Sure. So where would the inspiring be coming for that one? He must have. Oh the elven mage he's got the inspiring talent. That saved him then that was. Yeah. Otherwise that would have been a halibut turn that one. So Chris's turn. Checking the angles on his dragon immediately. He wanted to make sure that if he had a flank anywhere he could take it. Yeah. He's trying to see where if I charge in here whom I'm going to touch and the snow foxes are making it very hard for him to be flush. Yeah. So again we saw Tom using the snow foxes to vary the effect. Last time it looks like just a nice screening unit. Get in the way. Yeah. So Stephen saying look if it ends with Tom Robinson versus Rob for the tournament win as Rob challenge Tom for a first round game. That would be interesting. Yeah. An ultimate good match. Yeah. So I might I could pop my head round. That's because Tom and Dan King are just on the corner for most I could see what's going on in that game. Good. Chris has got a lot to think about. I think the dragon is the biggest thing on his mind. He's trying to clean up what he's going to do with that. Yeah. And he's measuring now. You're looking at angles again. I think he's tempted to take him into the fore. So on Tom to be Dan it looks like I can only see really what units they've lost. Dan's lost some air and outs and some edge grand ideas so far and Tom's lost one of his foxes. Chaffing it out. Yeah. Ultimate chaff. So turn three. No you don't double the more pubs. Yeah. Have you got a favorite scenario Kyle? That's a good question. I actually thank you. I have mentally prepared these just in case you know we're looking for something to talk about. I particularly like control. Yeah. It's where you divide the board up. Oh yeah. Yeah. I always find that confusing because I can't do math. Yeah. Sex since threes. Yeah. And I used to call them quadrants all the time and get a bunch of yeah it's there's there's six not four. Um but what I like about it is typically the fighting has to happen first and then it's this mad scramble for where you're going to end up. Yeah. Yeah. And just like that. It's fun. So it's a little bit like slight chaos right at the end. You like realize oh wait a minute. I need to get into this area. Yeah. So you see people measuring out which one. Yeah. Oh question but Kyle wait a minute. I'm just going to mute it while we just do this. And we're back to that banging guitar solo again. Yeah. The music. See okay I can hear the music from the computer but I don't know if it's coming through at home. The people are rocking out. So it looks like the dragon and has gone into the ice elementals. We've got the Seaguard here. What what this why are the Seaguard gone in sideways. He may have left just a you know a millimeter of a gap. Yeah. It was a flank on those ice elementals. Oh my god really. Yeah. Geez. And if if that's the case and he could fit then that's where he charges. Right. It's like what we're talking about. It's not corner to corner. No. No. Okay. Yeah. So when we talk corner to corner a lot of people get confused on that. Right. Okay. If there are two units that are the same size and another unit is coming in you can't you can't hit that corner. Yeah. Yeah. And you guys can't see what I'm saying. But no. No. It's it's it's mainly for me. Yeah. If it's that. Yeah. It's fine. Okay. And that may be the case. Well that's tough. That is tough. There's like a tough on that one. But that's where the reform matters. You know he decided he turned the ice elementals but then didn't move. Yeah. Back hunters. Yeah. And I think that he wasn't sure what to do and moved away from them. Yeah. And didn't check that angle. No. No. And I mean Robert's not arguing it. It looks like he knows. Remember folks. Check your angles. Yeah. Yeah. I mean that. Well that could be the key. The key element maybe you reckon. I think he could have taken them off even on a front charge. Yeah. Okay. So you don't think it matters that much. Yeah. Okay. Because it's much higher. 50 attacks. Yeah. Yikes. Yeah. Threes. Elite. Wouses. I know I don't have COVID. I keep coughing. I just can't drink water. No. I swallow and I cough every time. I always have the official tests. You go clear. Yeah. I'm clear. Which I still need to report. Oh yeah. So yeah. People have got the rocking music at home. Yeah. For me I thought it had paused there but I think it's just Chris is standing very, very still. There he goes back in there. So he's taken the dragon into the other ice elementals. I thought that he was really trying to figure out what he wanted to do there. Yeah. Robert's got the arms crossed with a man that's unhappy. He's going to start swaying soon. Yeah. He's mad about that little lip that he left out with the ice elementals. It's dirty. Doesn't seem right. It's what it is though. Yeah. I mean I suppose really fair play for Chris for spotting it I guess. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can't take it away from Chris just because it's not sneaky is it? He's a part of the game. He's going to check your angles folks. Yeah. So what's he checking here, Kyle? So this must be... I'm assuming those are battle cats? Oh, okay. He actually hasn't got anything else much in troops as he said. Oh, they're regiments. Well, yeah, that's right. They're swarms aren't they? Yeah. Still they're really angry cats sent into battle. I mean I don't think cats do what he wanted them to do. Do you know what I think? I mean cats are the ladies. No, they don't listen to anything that you say. They're two cats. Yeah. Yeah, they would hate me. Yeah. I feed them and they hit at me. Yeah. How dare you? Yeah. How dare you take care of us? I don't look like it was just his standing base actually there. Yeah. Yeah, if I was you know you'd go dogs all day of a cat so you surely into taking them into a fight. Well Robert's brought the dogs. He's got the thunder wolves. We'll see he behaves better. Yeah. This is the ultimate dog. We should that's we should try and force the dog be cat. Yeah. I'm not sure what he's looking at here other than how he's going to reform if he takes them off and he should take them off the frost fangs. Yeah, so you've got the it looks like the one of the cats has gone into the pack hunters and you've got the palace gardens aside the ice elementals. What do you think about that dragon be the ice elementals at the top? I can't it looks like there's another unit in there. I can't quite tell. Might be the is that be the sea guard. That might be the runny and sea guard. So that's a decent chance the dragon, you know on its own and probably not not not on its own. I mean, you would have a chance if it did very well. The two hit rolls going to be critical. The dragon's got elite hits on threes high, high crushing. Yep. So he take blade of slashing. Okay, that's interesting. He really wants to hit and I understand that because he's got elite and blade of slashing. Right. Okay. Wow. So he's determined to hopefully get the all 10. He wants all 10. Yeah, yeah. He's actually, I would expect, you know, in this case for me not having much experience with elves, they have more shooting, but is that sort of is that sort of die the the shooty elf list to sort of die the death? Currently. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. Yes. Currently. Okay. I think elves are going to have a return to what they believe they should be. Right. The players, you know, for a long time felt that they they should be changed to third edition. And I like the fact that that was, you know, it was partly goblin's fault. Sure. One became bad at shooting. Yeah. I think it was, you know, it doesn't always make a whole lot of sense that an elf shoots as well. Now, it looks like the snow foxes have come off the bottom there. A rare snow fox route. Yeah. Snow foxes do such good work and disappointed. Yeah. I think that was Adam Padley. I think that was a few years ago at Clash of Kings. You know, not Warming. You have an elf army or goblins? No, he had goblins. Yeah. And that was, I know you're taking Night Stalkers at 1.2. 200. Yeah, he's a big fan of shooting. Yeah, yeah. Almost as the Packins has gone as well. And that's just from the Battlecats. Yeah. Wow, that's nine attacks. God, that's... He's got fairly low nerve. Yeah, I suppose. Packins, well, defense three, thirteen. Yeah, I suppose actually when you look at that. For a regiment that's... That's a shame. Yeah. For as amazing as they looked in Tom's game. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now, is that because he... Well, obviously Tom held back quite a bit when he did these. Yes, he did. So for everyone that... Everyone who rushed out and bought a load of Packins is at the Tom's game. Now he's probably sending them back. Can I return that? Is he going to make them roll all 50 dice? That's the question. I would. Well, I mean, we've talked about running the clock down, haven't we? There's some elite re-rolls. Yeah. Quite a bit of hits. Yeah, that is quite a lot of hits, isn't it? Should be about half of these, unless he's going for a bane chant there too. In which case, a bit more. No, looks about half. I think you're going to need a big dice. That's the first amount. Okay. Let's do second round. A lot of people do the roll, hit, roll, hit, or roll damage, roll damage, like hit, damage, hit, damage. Yeah. Twice instead of doing 50 dice all at once. Yeah, I suppose. You're 25. Yeah. Find out what it is. Do another 25. Find out what it is. Yeah, I guess it's easier to keep track of maybe that way. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, because you tend, I mean, you tend not, not many people really being 50 dice at them, do they? No, yeah. Not as many that time. Still. Once. Oh, twice. Yeah. I mean, there was always, you know, there's a double one there, something like that. Yeah. So now it's looking like a very different story. Sure. If he picks up the ice elementals and the, yeah, the Frostfang Calorie. Yeah. I mean, going into this one, would you say that it was a better matchup for the elves, or did they look pretty? For me, the three hordes of palace guards, that's top. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think if he, if he, if he had managed to crack that one at the top, maybe we've got a lucky roll on the Frostfangs that would have been there. Sure. It's a lot like going for the, going for the nerve now, maybe. Oh, yeah. Elementals gone as well. A lot of blue going up the table. Yes, there has. He's looking at those tundra wolves and Lord of Frostfang. What can they hit from that range? Again, we talk about your reform after the combat being very important. Yeah. I mean, I imagine Robert's probably kicking himself a bit. Sure. Yeah. He'll look back. He'll have nightmares. In big tournaments like this, you know, he did some really clever things in that last turn. Yeah. But any little mistake. Yeah. Yeah. So punishing. Yeah. Yeah. It seemed like, it looked like anyway, he put the, the foxes in the right place and the other stuff, but it's just that tiny little bit and Christmas has been rubbing his hands with bleach. Chopping. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what he was doing. It was the chop, chop. Oh, no, it was a chop, chop motion last time, wasn't it? Oh, so now the, I didn't realize actually the the forest shamblers have got that token. So what is it? You need to, where do you need to get the token? Other side of the table. Okay. So they're going the wrong way at the minute. Yes. Okay. All right. Let's poke my head around the door. See what's going on with the Dan and Tom game. I'm going to have a quick look. I'll try and casually look like I'm actually looking. Please. Very big swing if those frostbanks get picked up too though. And he may have already rolled that. It seems like he's backing off now. Yeah, I think it's going over to Robert's turn. Yeah, I'll have Rob go out and check where the tokens are as soon as he's done with Tom and Dan. And it, yes, you are right where it's worth one point on your side of the board. You want to get it on the other side for two points. We need one more update on these guys Rob. We'd like to know where the where the tokens are. Okay. You could point to them. I will. My expert pointing. Yeah. I'll get a special thing to point to them. Any feedback on Dan and Tom? Yeah. So Dan, sorry, Dan and Tom. Tom has just lost a regiment of pack hunters. Okay. So he's lost a regiment of pack hunters and two foxes. Okay. Looks like Dan's lost a couple of aeronauts. Okay. Pretty even. As far as attrition goes at least. Okay. One there. Curious to see what Robert does to try to make the best of this. Obviously playing the scenario is the ultimate goal. So it's not all about killing the units. I think there's a unit up there at the top by the house that Robert has. Nice and secured. Am I pointing? Yeah. What's this unit all the way to top? That is the ice cream hunters. Okay. Yeah. So ice cream hunters. Then some battle cats have got one. Yep. And then the one in the middle obviously with the shambles. Okay. So the minute Chris has got two and Robert's got one. They do count for one point on your side. Yeah. Okay. Two points on the other side. So in my mind, you want to get across the center. I suppose if you were Chris, would you drop it? So you could pick it up with someone that was a bit faster? Or are you just going to have these shambles? I think he's got time. Protect them for now. Yeah. And then address it when you need to. Because he's within 12 inches of the center line right now. The four shamblers are slow. They're shambling. They can't move with the double. So this Robert's turned three. Yeah. Okay. So he's lost the ice elementals. Both ice elementals. The cavalry first thing look okay. These some else survived? Yeah. Well done to them. Do you think they'll take the Sea Guard now? Pest Guard rather? I think they might. Yeah. They don't really lose effectiveness when you know a lot of cavalry have to keep the effectiveness they have on the charge. Yeah. Frost fangs don't worry about that. They're just built in crushing too. Okay. So there's no thunderous charge. Yeah. It's just okay. That's crushing too. Yeah. Yeah. They're just like come at me bro. Do whatever. I don't care. They're the Mark Cox unit. Yeah. Of cavalry. I might have a rules question. Matt Gilbert's coming. Hang on. Two seconds. So Matt Gilbert there. Asking a question. What happens if someone concedes? And we decided that sadly it means. It's a 20 nothing. Yeah. Which is unfortunate for a couple of reasons. Yeah. You know the person that concedes obviously loses points they could have had. Yeah. Even if it was one point. Yeah. You know and that's a dragon gun. Oh yes. Maybe the bolt though is came good. Yeah. It looks like the thunder wolves charged in. Yeah. They've charged into the sea guard. I'm going to use a Fred Oslo joke here. Okay. Go on. Yeah. Close but no sea guard. It's good. That's a good joke. I remember that one. So this was like I think he's rolling for the this is with the troop at the bottom. That's a forest guard. You can do it. He's got. Take him. Pick him up. Did you do it? Roll the nerf. I don't think he thinks it's going to happen. I don't know that. So he didn't say he didn't get rid of the forest guard. So he's taking up the palace guard there. They've gone. Yeah. Yeah. That's a big deal. Yeah. He's just looking to see. And here I was saying that was a bad charge. Don't do that. Well, I guess. Yeah. Now he's got some options. Sure. Yeah. I mean it would have been amazing if he'd taken them out last time. But this is what you get with the Frostfang cavalry though. Like we've heard from other players they either are amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Or fall a little short. Because they seem like such a meaty unit. But they're only 1517. Yeah. And that's not that hard to take off the table. No. No. I mean not necessarily a glass hammer but you know that sort of sure. Yeah. Still risky. And particularly when we were talking about starting to chuck in brew of sharpness and then you're talking 300 points. 300 points for 1517 units. That's scary. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can be a bit worried about charging them in. Are you going to actually remove over 300 points worth of units with that brew of sharpness? Yeah. Is it worth it? Yeah. You need to basically just know you're going to delete units when you go in. Yeah. And brew of sharpness definitely does that. Yeah. So I guess I put it on my mince them up. So at least one which does make a difference. But that's still maybe when they're 300 points I think. If you want to save some points you know something like elite or or vicious could be good on them. Yeah. That's a good idea. Yeah. Yeah. With the volume of attacks you're going to have a decent amount of re-rolls. Yeah. It's not a huge point saver. No. Well every little helps. Every little bit. So this is Chris's turn four. Yes. I think I can always go check but it feels like it feels to me like a natural turn four. So oh I've lost our schedule. Oh you've got your chips. So let's see how long. So we're actually on time today. No delays. There was a special dietary requirements that slowed me down yesterday. So well. Push this game finishes at quarter to three. I got some time. Okay. Yeah. They've got some 45 minutes. 45 minutes. Chris has explained something here. They're deep in conversation. T minus how many minutes until I get called out. Yeah. No they got it. He's got it. Oh he's going into the side. Because of Yeah. He's not wrong there either. Yeah. Robert's turned a little red again. Yeah. Yeah. It's not again. So yeah. It's where his leader point is. And was that because he charged him with two of them. Yes. But he just charged him a wall. They have to send her up. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. He technically it's not a counter charge in that instance. But he has to disengage and they charge again because a counter charge would just be in the front and he'd slide. Yeah. I think it's obviously before in second edition because you would always bounce back an inch. It'd be the same thing wouldn't it. Almost you'd have the same. The only part about that that confuses me is they should have been flush. Yeah. They should have been completely flushed to each other. Facing him flat. Yeah. So I'm not sure. I'm not sure where that gap came from. Right. That's the only thing that's slightly confusing to me. Oh yes. Yes. Unless the other one didn't attack. Could have been the case. Yeah. Wonder what it won't. Wonder what it would be though. Yeah. I can go ahead and have a look. Didn't you go spy. It's a casualty. Yeah. Yeah. Because you could be giving away something. Yeah. Yeah. I can have a look. Let's see Rob's spy tactics in action. There he is. Wandering around the edges coming over to that side wants to get a peek. Maybe having a conversation. Hard to say. I think he's satisfied with the information he's gotten and he's coming back. So Bart's chiming in. We've got people telling us on the stream what's going on. Bart thinks that he has it and it's pretty much the only case it could be. So. Well he hasn't attacked. No, no, no. Just to get that flank. Yeah. Based on how it was reformed his leader point was in the flank so he had that. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's so the ice queen. I think that's Sarah Keener. He's next to. Gotcha. Yeah. Okay. Oh, we haven't come up with the names. Yeah. Sarah. That seems a bit lazy. Yeah. See that to me feels like that's more like Shakira, Sarah Keener. Maybe not. Yeah. He flanked the palace guards who sent him a little more forward than he reformed. He could have put him. Frostfang survived again. They're doing some work. Sarah Keener. Paying the bills. Got a few things but they're not really good. Yeah. Okay. Let's leave it. Yeah. If we can't we don't want to that magical thing. No, it's not immediate. So still the forest. I think the forest shambles now. I've just grabbed that token and just gone for a walk. They're just shumbled off. Yeah. You'll plant themselves. Yeah. They're like, yeah, thanks for this. We're going to go now. Put the forest there in the next game. Yeah. You train around a bit. So it looks like he's thinking. He's getting his sticks out. So I'm not sure what turn Dan and Tom are on, but it's like it's Dan's turn again. He's lost a, I think he's got three, maybe three aeronauts left. So we'll see how that's going. Where the tokens are. Yeah, I guess. Well, it looks like one token. No one's got it. Okay. So I don't know what's happening there. One in the center, maybe? Or was it off somewhere? It looked like it off somewhere. Yeah. Maybe someone's been destroyed. A unit may have been picked up by shooting. Yeah. Okay. So this must be the palace guard now. Yeah. Yeah. And there's a lot of dice to roll just to get rid of that thing, that Lord of Frostfang. So it's actually the, you know, buying the, the troop or the regiment box, those is quite a good value for money. But at least you get three frostfangs. You turn them all into Lord of Frostfangs in you. Why not? Yeah. That's how they come in most lists. Take them in threes. Yeah. Whoa. Has it survived? I don't know if you're old nerve. It's so easy for us to get distracted. Yeah. He's a bit stopped. Yeah. Oh, let's hang on. Oh, hang on. They're asking me, so how long till you get called in, Kyle? This is like a question. Or maybe not. Maybe not. It survived. It must have, yeah. I had to have been snake eyes. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm gonna play that. Now he's got a rear on the forest shamblers. Jeez. Juicy. What happened? Yeah, that's it. I don't know, even if he takes the forest shamblers off and gets the token, if he can reform in a way that hides himself still, from any kind of retaliation from the palace guard, it seems very difficult to get out of their arc. Snake eyes. Man. That game, Kings of War. Just huge. Just ruined things for you. Yeah. So Chris, Chris said he reckons he's won it now. As in, Robert's won it. Chris doesn't say that he's won it. That'd be a bit, but yeah, I've won this. Yeah. Maybe he's saying he reckons he's gonna go to, A snake eyes can do that to you. Wow. So Robert there can relax for the first time, probably maybe something's gone his way a bit in this game. Well, we'll see. You keep playing. Yeah. Yeah. You give up. Yeah. Win games by staying in it. Keep your head held high. Unless you're playing Tom. Dan might be the only person here that can beat Tom. We'll see. So a quick look through again. It looks like Tom still got quite a number of units on the board. Okay. Tom must have been patient and just choosing where to hit. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see. I'm curious. Dan's list is interesting to say the least, but not unbeatable. No. Any kind of skew when you go that hard into one thing, you're gonna win a lot of games. Yeah. But it becomes very hard to win every game. Yeah. Yeah. All you need is one game not to go your way. Yeah. Yeah. And the one game you don't want. Yeah. The one game you don't want to hang on. The one game you don't want to not go in your way is against Tom. Yeah. Yeah. Because he will punish you as we saw earlier on. Jerry says double one for the win. Yeah. That's made a huge difference because now the shamblers that were kind of having a nice stroll and suddenly like whoa, what's this? What I was saying before you came back in though is even if he ends up picking up that token, I don't know that he can get out of the arc of the palace guard. Okay. So they've turned around of it now. So that's a concern. If he gets lucky and D6 is forward and applies frozen to them, then they can only charge Yeah. Yeah. 10 inches instead of 12. Yeah. And he could save himself that way. Even if he slides down. Yeah. Away from them. There's possibility. Yes. He looks like they're measuring right now. Yeah. So he's gonna have to, yeah, this will be one way he really has to kind of measure check his, check his angles. Yeah. Yeah. Freezing them would make a big difference. Sure. Yeah. If you can't hit the table, it's a six by four table you didn't hit with the attack. It's a miss. Well, you reckon. Oh, that's controversial. You reckon the dice goes off the board at the table. So like if you're on the other team, you'd be like tilting the table, trying to get it all to tip off. Yeah. Don't worry about the dice. When you do that, just worry about the models. Yeah. You don't have models. You can't charge it. Right. This is like the Frost Fang now. So this is, it's been good this game because it's kind of swung both ways, isn't it? So at one point we were kind of looking at the thing and the Roberts got it, then Chris had it. Now I'm not so sure. Chris thinks he's lost, but it always feels that way. Yeah. Critical snake eye. For those interested in how Martin's doing as a standing player, he's losing against the goblin list, which is sweet news to me. Probably he's had so much of any of the lists that the list he's had the most practice against. But for whatever reason, he's there. They're gone. So there's the first shambles. Would you like to token, sir? Yes, I would like to token. Yeah. Now what he does here is interesting. So what's the choice? So he needs to look, I suppose, isn't he? I'm working out. They're within 12 now, it looks like. Yeah. So he says, do I go sideways? Do I go forward? So what's the charge? The charge is six. The angle takes away more because they're flush. Their bases are kind of, you know, parallel. The angle takes away more distance by going forward and you have central to go further. Yeah. When you go forward. But if he needs a two on the D three to go sideways and go, you know, back. Yeah. Yeah. That's a higher risk on the diet. Think about it. Look at this. This is an important one for them. He's chosen to go sideways. Oh, is that a one or a two? I think that must be a one. They're going to measure it again. They look like a one. So you think that's still in range? I don't know. I'd love to see them measure it. They apparently knew agreed. Yeah. You know, you're going to need at least a two here, at least, you know. Okay, that'd be an interesting one then to see what happens with Palace Guard. It doesn't look like he froze them, does it? I don't think he did. And to me, that's, that was the thing to do. Yeah. So that's looks like some Forest Guard gone there. So he's still got the bat. So I think the battle cut, those ones that the Lord of Frostbands in, they have the token, if I remember rightly. Yeah. So now we're on to the Frostfang cavalry. He's saying, okay, if I can't charge, yeah, so he's having to look around. He's saying with the Palace Guard, if I can't charge your Lord, I want your Frostfang, which, you know, maybe that wasn't the best thing to do in the middle of that turn, because if your opponent may have just been tipped off to that, maybe I can back up. Yeah. You know, but you can measure it at any time. So yeah. So he's, so he's looking to pivot. Yeah. I mean, I guess the Sea Guards got to get, oh no, they're not, they're yielding aren't they? So you'll go through. Yeah. Do you think you would have backed up there? I think I would have, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's got Brewhast on them. Yeah. So the gaps that he can maintain. I thought he was maybe having to think about it. The gaps he can maintain there are much farther. Yeah, I think maybe he's, he may have already tapped the clock. Okay, yeah. I would have at least positioned myself so that he's going to be hindered in that forest. Oh yeah, Koski's in the forest, isn't he? I mean, actually they will clip it, won't they? I think they will, just as big as they are. Some things need to move out of the way. If they can reach it all, it's kind of hard for us to tell. Yeah. Yeah, we can't just suddenly go over there and start. So I think he's looking now, he's got the base. If I move those out of the way. So none of them are mighty, are they? It's got ice queens, right? Yeah, they're both ice queens. No. They're not. So they're not getting in the way. Oh my god, he's looking and he's going to tilt. Boss, boss, boss, boss, boss. Oh, he's... He may be thinking of overruns and... Yeah. And then he's got his own... So he's got two of his own units in the middle there as well. A lot of wobbling on that base, I'm intrigued. It's almost like if you had... You could remix it with these like DJ scratches over the top. Yeah. Wacka, wacka, wacka. That was excellent. Thank you. That should be on a soundboard somewhere. Yeah. Misspent, you've played DJ Hero, that's what it is. It's looking like... I was a guitar hero, man, myself. Yeah, and I like to guitar hero as well. And then rock band as well. I mean it by my hand, by how my hand is like down, dancing. The weird upon where we'd play rock band, and it was a case of if... So we'd have someone singing bass guitar drums. Yeah. And the person who scored the lowest had to drink. And they'd always put me on drums. Because that's the hardest. And the problem is that's a downward spiral. Yeah. Because the more drunk you get. The more drunk the worse you do. So okay, so he missed with the ball throw shots. So again, Jerry, I mean it would be... We should get... Next year, if Jerry comes over, he can be like our table side commentary. Yeah, yeah. It helps. Yeah, screw big dog. It's hard to express how small the things are on the screen for us. Yes, yeah, I suppose actually, yeah, we are... Yeah, we... You could be a... My hand is bigger than the screen that we're looking at. So... That's a good point, I see. Yeah, you'll probably be watching at home in like a 32 inch screen or something. And we're... It's like we're almost watching on a PlayStation portable. Yeah, actually they say the dimensions of the top-down view for us are probably what, smaller than... It's like a Nokia 3310. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I've got a packet of ketchup here and it's larger. We could use different things. I'm going to tell you we've got some paint pots here. It's a paint pot. So it's... The paint pot's bigger. Yeah, the paint pot is bigger. So I'm just going to have a quick look around, Kyle. Yeah, go for it. I'm going to leave you to commentate. The Frost Fang Lord got picked up so the token is uncontested. Battlecats are free to turn. This game is on a playground with all the swings we have. Let's see if those go away. They do. Tunder Wolves are gone. Chris has got to be getting some confidence at this point. Let's see if he can clean up the Ice Queens. And Matt's given the announcement for 30 minutes remaining. These guys definitely won't need that. The Ice Queen has in snare, so I'm interested to see if that came into play or if he was able to get into a flank. It's really hard to tell. Oh no. Oh no. That's telling enough as it is. I think he's done enough damage, but the nerve roll strikes again. Robert's like, yeah, she's got about 34 points of damage. Even though they don't have 25 attacks. This is where I wish we could hear the conversations to know what's going on in their heads. Chris has got to be a little frustrated rolling multiple snake eyes with the same unit, no less. And the question for Robert is how does he salvage it now again? Can he swing it back? Rob's getting the insight on Dan and Tom, it looks like, asking about tokens. So Kyle, how's the gang? Chris has just rolled snake eyes again with the same unit into the Ice Queens. And now it looks like he's been charged by Frost Fangs. The unkillable Frost Fangs. Yeah, they are. MVP's of the game. Yeah, yeah. I think they're certainly the most MVU. Chris was able to pick up from shooting. The Frost Fang Lord that had that token, but it's just sitting there. Right. So, okay, that's interesting. Next, a minute you've got one of the, the thingies, the Ice King Hunters, they've got one. Do you want to go and find out where the tokens are? Yeah, let's see. Let's see where they are. I'll find out what's their one. I think we're on turn six, are we? Should be, yeah. Let's assume we are. They've flipped very quickly now. So Robert is, it's in her. His turn. Chris had a very short turn. Okay, let's get over there. I've got my special pointer again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think those Palace Guard are undamaged and, you know, he'd have to be lucky again. So the one token that was dropped, yes, we know that one. And there's some on the sides of the board that we can't see. Or at least that I can't see. So yeah, the far ends of the table. Firestorm wasn't able to switch the top down as the primary camera for us. The glitching was a major concern. Apparently it has interference with certain types of metal and it's on this big metal rig, and that's where this is coming from. So we want to maintain their equipment, obviously. So the combat in the middle doesn't really have a huge effect on the game. But Robert's at least stopped Chris from picking up that token with Palace Guard, which was a very real possibility. How did, do you see my great pointing? It's, it's, it's there. It's just off camera for us in this main view. We're pointing down here and up here. So in all fairness, two of the counters are where they've been the entire game. Yeah. Which is the battlecats kind of taking one back to the kitty little tree. Sure. And then the ice skin hunters have just kept one there. So I guess this one, I guess in the minute, they've both, this could be a draw. Yeah. He, the critical thing is he stopped the Palace Guard from picking this one. Yeah. Doesn't look like that was enough. No. I wouldn't have expected it to. He said, them, I'm going to kill them. They're dead. They're shaking his fist now. Wow. It's got, it's got aggressive. Yeah. Like cats doing the cats. The cats can't get over there. Can they? Yeah, they fast. But that's going back into, they can still score. Holding the token is only worth one point on your side. Okay. So you'll, I'll see you'll be three. So no, you're two though, weren't you? So that would, hang on, sorry. I'm going to, so you'd get two tokens. You can carry more than one. Yeah. Yeah. But if he goes back to his own half. It's worth two. Yeah. Robert's got one that's worth two with his ice skin. Okay. Yeah. So that's what I meant. It's more worth it to stay on this side is what you're saying. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I would have just stuck around. Yeah. Unless he thinks he can get rid of the, well, let's stick around. I would too. Yeah. He's just so angry that those, with those frost fangs. So this is 10-6. 4-2, 4-4. Are we, are we getting the math stone, Kyle? I'm terrible at math, so. So a token is normally worth. One point if it's in your side of the table. Yeah. Two if it's, it's on your opponent's side. And the scenario is push. Push. That's the objective. I will find it and read it aloud. Uno momento. So Chris has a token on those battle cats. I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to get points again. You, you had pointed down here. Oh, you couldn't see. Okay. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you made it go. Oh, there's your phones. Oh, no. Keep it away. Okay. Push. Victory points are awarded at the end of the game as follows. Two victory points for each loot counter you hold, where your unit is entirely on the opposing half of the board. One victory point for each loot counter you hold, where your unit is at least partly. On your half of the board. Yeah. You got to get all the way across. Yeah. So how, how are people saying it's 4-2? Because I think... Robert's got two with the ice king hunters. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what's down here. I thought that was the... You said battle cats. Have I just got completely confused? Maybe I've got completely confused. Possibly. Okay. He could have, is it Robert's unit down there? Let me get you. I'm worried I'm going completely... It looks like on camera that there's battle cats there. They're about the size of the crescent on my thumbnail, from where I can see. Crowd at the table. So from the top down, Robert's getting an explanation. We need a portable microphone that can go out there. All right, Jerry's got us sorted. I'm not sure that Robert has any tokens at the moment. Well, no, he does have the ice king hunters. So speaking to Robert and Chris, this is end of turn six. That's 12 for 10. And it's a draw. So it looks like flip to turn seven. If they're playing again, they were just at the end of turn six. So might be Robert's turn six, because Chris went first. But there is two all. They were saying it's a draw at the minute. Okay. So two from the ice king hunters, two on the battle cats. Yeah. Okay. Hot off the press as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been roving reporter. Tom Robinson won 19-1. Wow. Against Dan. Wow. So next game, top table, it will be Tom. The whoever. Well, if these draw one of these ones, probably. Yes. So who was if these are a draw? Yeah, they will not. No. So then it will go down to that's when you talk to your opponent. You say, you know what, man? I'm gonna drop this token just for you. So it could be afterwards. Well, this would be interesting. It might be Ed Herzig or Matt James. Matt James submarining his way to the top. So let's see what Matt's done. So yeah, Matt James of Kingdoms of Men, Ed has got forces of nature. Of course, that's a nice one. You're looking at it a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Very interesting. I'm excited. That's. Yeah, yeah. That's engaging news. I come up with you with the hottest. Hottest, hottest, hottest. We have this microphone. I was thinking how amazing it would be if you could take it out there and it was a wireless microphone and just be like, all right, this is what we have. And it would go straight in the stream. And I can hear it with the headphones. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we almost had the walkie-talkies, but not quite. Yeah. So, Jerry says there are two sets of battle cats, one off-camera, heading down to the table and one turning back towards the drop token. Yeah, but yeah. So only one of those battle cats has a token at the minute. Yeah. I think the ones that are off-camera. Yeah. And then the other off-camera is the twilight, another twilight king. The ice king hunters who have one as well. I think that they've just finished. The sea guard got taken off. So they must have gone for it. Yeah, I think they're just doing very quick clean-ups, turn seven clean-ups, because I don't think anyone else can clean them. No, no, no one else can do anything. So this will be a draw, then. So I'll figure out your kill points. Do you want me to try and... I can probably try and find out if Matt James has won and then we'll know who's going to be in the top table. Once they've drawn, then it gets really complicated about how to keep going down. Yeah. Oh, God. Right, I'll leave it. I'll leave the... Patience. I'll leave the stream in your capable hands and we'll see if Matt James is... Patience. We're almost done. Okay, we'll wait for this. And then it'll be a surprise. This is wrapped up nicely with a bow. Yeah. Nope. Nothing. Call it a draw, stop the clock. Big sigh. Oh, well. I mean, I guess I could just go for the attrition at this point. Yeah, that's pretty much it. I guess Robert's got a turn to go. Does he? Yeah, he's got... If it's 10-7, he's got... Yeah, yeah. So he's saying, can I shoot my ice king hunters? Did he move them back to do that? Oh, God, let me see if he's moved. Oh, no, he's surely not. Hmm. But no one's got that... Yeah, no one's got that... The token is loose, because they're crisp. I feel like they were supposed to have more tokens. No, it was two. It was set at two. Yeah, yeah. You see, one in the middle. Two in the middle, yeah. And then it's normally D3. Right, right. The D3 in his head. Yeah. So, let's see. So, yeah, it is two... Well, assuming that he hasn't moved... I mean, doesn't that... I don't think he will have done. Sure. Jesus, that would be... I think he's just trying to take out... That must still be that... Seaguard in the middle left. Hmm. Everyone's saying, yeah, you wrote them off and look. Well, they're easy to ignore. Yeah, that's great. They've kind of mooched around. Not really a bunch of moochers. Yeah, just roll in, see if he can get rid of some of the... He's just rolling random dice. He's just rolling dice to the hell of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he's trying to... This guy in particular. We're going to roll Nerve on him. Yeah. Three Nerve tests. Yeah. Oh, that's the Seaguard. The Seaguard dump. And there we go. So, that, I think that's a draw. I'll go and check, but it looks to me like a draw. Hmm. Excellent work so far. We will see if Matt and Tom end up being our matchup. Jerry, you think Matt's at the top just based on his results? You never know if there's any games finishing up that could maybe cause that to be a leap. That's one that's interesting. Head of the Rules Committee versus the Northern King himself. Rob's on his way back. That's a bare table, gentlemen. Bloody matchup. These two went back and forth and flipped back and forth several times, so very good match. If it was a draw, it looks like it deserved to be a draw. Final calculations. It should be easy, just add up what you get left. Just a couple of heroes, a couple of troops. Yeah, so sorry, it was a draw in terms of the objectives, but I reckon I think they were working out the attrition now. It might end up 11-9 to Robert. Okay. That's still a draw in my eyes, but yeah, we'll get it. So, so cool. So we are going to be back at, let me check the schedule. I keep getting confused. I think we've only got, we've got about about 15 minutes, I think they said. Yeah. So we've probably got about an hour now. So we're back again at four o'clock. Sure. Let's say four. I'll just check. Well, it's 2.30 now. That's a long time. No, it's not four. So it's three. I thought it was, I'm seeing the time. So we're finished. We'll be back at three o'clock for game six, which is Dominate, and do you know what it's going to be? Top table. It's going to be Tom Robinson and Matt James. Delicious. Yeah, that would be a tasty one. And that will be on the stream. So we will see what happens there. Oh, I can't wait to comment to that one. That's a good game. That's the highlight of my weekend. So, well, well, not, of course. Why wouldn't it be? No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. Okay, fine. Some real top, top level Kings award analysis. Yeah. Oh, are you going to commentate with someone else? Yeah, that's somebody else in here. So yeah, thank you very much for watching this game. Really enjoyable. One good one base kind of went back and forth. Yeah. Good balance. It looks like a proper draw. It really does. Yeah. No, it's really good. I remember folks, check your angles. Yeah, we'll be back at four o'clock. Now three o'clock. Jesus. Three. We'll be back at three o'clock. Shortly. Yeah, very shortly, actually. Let's go get a break. Yeah, have a cup of tea, have some whiskey, whatever you want. Okay, we'll be back soon. Bye, guys. Hello, everyone. And we are back for the top table of the final round of Clash of Kings 2021. And we've got a Northern Alliance off. Familiar faces. Yep. So we've had Tom earlier on the stream. They had their ass switch sides. Sorry, guys. Try to switch. Do it. There's no other time to do it now. Oh, now we're going to mess about. Anyway, so. Click there. Clicking that for you. They're both in Northern Alliance, aren't they? Oh, yeah. So that's one good thing. Hey. That's easy for once. Yeah, so we've got a Northern Alliance off with Robert on the last game versus Tom who we saw earlier today. Tom who gave us a master class. Absolutely. So we've, I guess we've been through their lists earlier on, but just in case, I mean, how day you've not been watching all day. Yeah, yeah. We'll go through the lists again. So currently, we've... We've tweaked the table. Yeah, we've slightly, they've both played on it. Yeah, that's worth pointing out, because obviously they're both playing this. Robert will have it fresh in his mind. Yeah. We've gone out and they're playing on the same side too. Will he fall into some similar pitfalls? Is he going to deploy the same as he did last game? We'll see. Who knows. And this scenario is Dominate. So what's that scenario, Kyle, before we go into the list? Dominate is a 12-inch bubble directly from the center of the table. Okay. And highest unit strength at the end of the game in that bubble wins. So it's basically a big old fight in the, scrap in the middle. Scrap in the middle. What a way to end the game. King of the Hill. Yeah. And I wanted to put that hill right in the middle, but they, you know, we offset it just a little bit. Yeah. I mean, that would have been too literal. Yeah. King of the Hill. Yeah. So we've got, we'll go through Tom's list first. And again, if you've obviously seen Tom's game familiar on, you'll be familiar with this list. But he's got four regiments of pack hunters and he's swapped out the short bows for javelins. The piercing is really going to help in this game. Okay. A lot more high defense, you know, defense five quite a bit across the board with Robert's list. Yeah. So it was Salamander's early one. Yeah. And see, it seems like such a long time ago since we were commentating on that game. I've almost forgotten what it was. So yeah, we've, so yeah, he's going to, that piercing. We talked about how the pack hunters kind of point for point, very good at sort of good at melee, good at range. Sure. Very solid unit. Yeah. Four hundred and forty five points. Nice. Yeah. We then got the snow foxes who are my new MVP unit of the day after seeing what Tom did with them in his game earlier. Mm-hmm. Just nasty. Yeah. Baiting people. You can position them so easily. Yeah. With Pathfinder, with Nimble. Nimble is such a big deal on them. You're able to put them exactly where you need them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very, yeah, very, very, very good. And we'll see how Tom uses them here. Two hordes of snow trolls, one with chalice of wrath, one with dwarven ale. Yep. We've got our waiver mitigation down. Yep. You've got the Thane on Frostfangs. That's the gray one. So I think I can just see where the Frostfangs are lined up. It's the one closest to the house. Mm-hmm. You've got the Thane, I think currently at the back with the blue sort of flag. On Fort. Yeah. Yeah. And then you've got three lords on Frostfang. One with Blade of Flash slashing and the snow fox, which increases attacks. Mm-hmm. One with the Mesa Crushing and the snow fox. Another one with just the snow fox. And then finally you've got the snow troll prime with the staying stone who was used interestingly as chat earlier on. Yeah. Just to bait Stephen with his salamanders. So. Stopped him from getting a plush double charge. Yeah. Yeah. So Robert's Northern Alliance list is kind of similar, but not quite the same. So he's got one regiment of pack hunters, although he has got the javelins for those. Then he's got two icekin hunters. One with the fire oil. Guess that might come in handy against trolls. Yeah. He's opted for a little bit more efficiency with the icekin hunters over the pack hunters, but in a easier to take off profile. Nerve 10-12 is pretty laggy. Yeah. A few hits on those and they're going. Yeah. Only the one regiment of snow fox is my MVP. Air elementals. Ice. Ice. Baby. Baby. So these are the, I guess these are what, is this what's going to go head to head with the trolls? We'll see. If they're deploying now and this is what they're going for. Yeah. It looks like that's the matchup that they're trying to set up. Now the ice elementals, the situation that we have that's different from the prior game. Yeah. The icy breath can potentially make it an even ground, but the trolls also have wild charge. Okay. But ice elementals don't. So. It's interesting. We'll see. I was trying to remember if how Tom set up earlier on, see if he's set up similar, but I can't quite remember. So far it looks pretty similar. Yeah. It looks very similar. What about Robert? He's shifted down a little bit. His crossfings were on the top last time. Yeah. They're on the bottom. Okay. So sorry, so carry on. So he's got the ice elementals, he's got the tundra wolves, a bit more of kind of a nasty upgrade. Again, the more efficient snow fox. Yeah. 1012 compared to 911. More offensive. Frostfang cavalry, which is that they were his unit of, they stuck around for sure the entire game. No, did they get off at the end? I think they got taken off. They did the very, very end. Yeah. Yeah. Two ice can bolt throwers, two lords on Frostfang, one with the blade of slashing, one with the mace of crushing, an ice queen and Sarah Keener, the ice queen as well. So these are obviously two rival Northern Alliance gangs that have fallen out for some reason. Yeah. Maybe they like different flavors of ice cream. One of them had been fraternizing with the Verringer, maybe? Really. Exactly. Okay. Could be. So we've got Verringer tolerant faction. So yes, they're saying that Rob actually challenged Tom beforehand. Maybe they were the Northern Alliance off. Yeah. So we'll see how this one goes. I mean, it'd be really interesting to see, obviously, what Tom does in this one, because he was, you know, doing all sorts of shenanigans earlier on. You know, Robert has shown his hand a little early with where he's trying to crack a nut. Yeah. And Tom doesn't seem to care, which is interesting. Yeah. So he's got, so Tom's got, I see he's got two hordes, he's got two hordes at the bottom. So they're probably his biggest unit strength, aren't they? Unit strength three. So they'll be the ones he's looking to probably stay in the middle. As I said in the prior game, Tom will be happy with the unit strength change to the pack hunters. Yeah. That'll help him. Not like he needs it. I don't think he needs any help. But it's nice to see, you know, Northern Alliance, a new army for third. Yeah. And they're here. Top table. Top table at the end of the day. Which is pretty exciting. Very blue game this one. It's going to make it hard for us to tell who's who. They're not making it easy for us, are they? It's hard enough to see. Yeah. Yeah. As we've, on our Nokia 3310 size screens. Yeah. The frost fangs and the trolls have the exact same base sizes. So. Yeah. It can be fun for us. Yeah. So pray for us at home. Hashtag pray for us. Yeah. So in Dominate, do you, do you sort of go out there early doors, kind of stick in the middle or do you, I mean, we all know Tom's good at biting his time. Yeah. I mean, that can be some strategy with certain armies. Yeah. We talked about Ed earlier with his forces of nature and all those four shamblers. Yeah. He technically could scout up to that center line before the game even begins. Yeah, sure. Yeah. And if he gets first turn, he's got a blockade all of a sudden. Yeah. But if you crack that, if you get through that, then the door's wide open when it came. So it's, in my opinion, you treat this pretty similar. Yeah. You don't want to get yourself caught out too far from the center. You notice they both are pretty centrally deployed as it is. The bolt throwers are interesting too. We can't see a number of Roberts units on camera. Looks like they're past the windmill. So there's something that looks like it must be some on the other side of the forest. All of his shooty bits. And then, yeah, maybe some just the, the kind of towards the bottom of the camera. It's a good approach. I think that he's thinking that if he can just overwhelm on one side, if he loses some units on the way, that he can kind of sort of close the door towards the center, towards with the end of the game. So the pack hunters aren't a great threat. If you ignore them, they can be, which is the risk that Roberts running. Yeah. I think that's the tundra wolves at the top there that he's found. He's looking to threaten a quick flank if Tom pops anything out past that house. Yeah. Okay. Because tundra wolves suddenly with, you know, 18 attacks. Yeah. Our threat. Yeah. So Mod says, Tom doesn't need to win bigger draws if I rob us to go all out to get a big win. Yeah, that's a good point actually. He did finish his last game only with 11 points. Yeah. Yeah. Where Tom's had consistent, high victories. Yeah. Um, essentially, you know, if we, could someone from table two or three? I got it wrong. I thought Matt James is going to be top table. Yeah. So he's accusing me of lying to him. But Matt James is just waiting, hovering in the background, waiting to sneak in. He's playing the Elf player from last round. Okay. So I mean, thank goodness it's not crispy, Tom. So we would just get confused. It's a bad matchup for Matt. Right. Three hordes of palace guard. Yeah. Right in the middle of the game. Matt plays a kingdom has been list with a lot of cavalry. Right. Which would be great for something like control. Yeah. Yeah. But Dominic, he doesn't, he doesn't want to slow down and just get stuck in the middle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He wants to be moving around. But that's not the game we're talking about. No, no. Bolt thrower shots looks like. Yeah. Where are they going? Going on to the pack hunters possible. Yeah. So the pack ones is actually almost identical to where they were. Mm hmm. Isn't just him. So with the tables, this sort of, they've had the same amounts of scenery on pretty much. You know, two trees, two hill, well most of them are two hills, two blocking terrain. So we tried to keep it consistent. But obviously what's one is, yeah. Yeah. They've moved around a bit. Mm hmm. These days going on. Oh no. Okay. That's some pretty effective firing there. So one pack hunter's gun. So like I say, you know, Bob has to go all out to get this in. Tom says, all right, Tunder Wolves. This is Tom's turn one. That's going to be a front if he takes it. So he's checking right now. A hindered front charge from the Tunder Wolves is basically nothing. Yeah. So what the Tunder Wolves are hitting on? Hit on threes. Okay. But they've only got thunderous one. Nine attacks. Right. Going to fours. Yeah. Hits with a few and then damages on five. That's one or two damage. So then he's just like whatever. Yeah. He still needs to make that move. Yeah. So keep it in the front. Makes it easy. Nimble's the only reason he could do that. Yeah. Because he had to pivot to get around the house and then pivot to get to show his front. So do you think, I mean, is that pack hunters a lot, is that a big loss for Tom or not really is he, I assume it was the pack hunters that went wasn't it? Maybe not have been. So I'm going to have a look see what it was. All right, I'm going to have one because he's got four of them. He's got four. Yeah, that was. Yeah. Tom is also pretty hungover. Okay. He's checking to make sure because the Frost Fangs, this is a trick you can do. Yeah. The Frost Fangs are height four, the hill is height three. Okay. So they can see over it. They can't. Yeah. Right. They look like they're blocked but they're not. Yeah. Okay. So he's just checking that one. Yeah. Making sure. Remember, remember. I guess check your angles. Yeah. Your heights. Yeah. Just check things. Check everything. Just check. Actually, maybe that's the catchphrase. Just check things. Just check it. Yeah. I feel like it's quieter out there than it has been. Yeah. A little more intensity in the last round. I think everyone's really hot. Yeah, yeah. That's probably it. Yeah, I think it is hot upstairs. Downstairs. And actually all the because in fact now I think the way the tables aren't random. So if you're in the top half the table, you're upstairs. You actually are upstairs. And if you're in the bottom half of the table, you're downstairs. So Matt Gilbert's just coming in. He's coming in. He wants to watch. It's all the same colors. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's very hard for us to see. Yeah. It's going to be an interesting one for us to commentate on because everything's blue. Should have played on a slightly blue board as well. Right. Yeah. Nice board. Yeah. We should have asked him to swap it over. Get a nice move. Move the rig to somewhere else. So Tom's turn one. He's explaining something here. He's going way out there. It's an interesting choice. I'm sure Tom's got some. This is one of those where I'm thinking. What's the intention? Right. Because he could just get toasted by some icy breath there. Okay. So that's. Can you get toasted by icy breath? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It burns. It burns. Yeah. It's just frostbite. It's just frostbite. Frostbite. Yeah. Yeah. For us. And he's looking at that. You know. Effective 16 inch range. I don't know what he's looking at on the tape measure. But yeah. He said. It's a little bit too keen there. Yeah. Yeah. And with shooting you do have to measure from the leader point. And he's measuring from anywhere on the base. So he's also checking charge. Right. Distances. He's checking everything. Taking everything possible. Just check it. And he's got. Yeah. I mean your. Your surge isn't going to. He's not going to get a surge if they are too far away. He could surge. I don't think that that's in his game plan. No. He didn't use the surge with the wind blast. Last time in combination. Yeah. That was a really nice play. Yeah. Yeah. Because that was one that caught us. We didn't ever. It's always going on. Okay. He's doing that. When I saw him check the angle with one of his measuring sticks. Yeah. That's when I was like oh he's looking at a flank there too. Yeah. So. So actually Tom's got. Remember earlier on he used that kind of middle. Snow foxes. They were the ones that caused all the problems for Stevens. They were in the same position this time. Well I think that it was the snow foxes behind the trolls that came out. I thought it was ones in the middle that came through the middle and sort of then caused. Maybe you're right. Maybe you're right. We'll see. We'll see. How different are their lists? They're pretty similar. Yeah sort of. I mean so Tom's got more of the trolls rather than the ice elementals. He's gone with the pack hunters. Tom has. Where Robert has taken one regimen of pack hunters but then the ice can hunter. So he's he's once that a little bit more effective. You know point cost. One snow fox and then he's also got the tundra wolves. So instead of three snow foxes he's he wants a little bit more effectiveness. He's got him positioned here. I think he was thinking to threaten a flank if if Tom exposed himself which he didn't. Ice elementals. It's a family stream. Yeah yeah ice elementals instead of trolls. Which I had commented earlier that I thought Tom's list might be a little bit better if he had taken ice elementals instead of the trolls. But after watching his game I think he he has an attention to why he has an attention to why he has the trolls. In fact I think when he sent his list across it was called NA troll list. So maybe he's got another Northern Alliance list of his sleeve that he he hasn't quite he's not ready to show the world. So the bullfowers are interesting too. They've already taken off one of the pack on their regiments. I guess the problem with all sort of war engines is they're just a bit swingy sometimes aren't they. They can either do a lot of damage or or nothing. These ones are a little bit more predictable. Yeah. They're hitting on fours they have a lead. Oh yeah fine. Okay it's it's just a little bit more consistent. It's only D3s it's not a D6 yeah you know just easier to get an idea even if it's only one or two damage. You know you're chipping away. Yeah yeah. I think Tom had a little ladder earlier on that might he might use to support those. The ladders are great. Yeah. We need an official magic ladder. You've got one on the bottom of the the guillotine for terrain crate. We could just snap all those off and use those. Snow foxes he's checking out. Oh wait a minute. We've seen this before. Well he's he's looking to block as many units as possible. It looks like that that troll is slightly ahead of the the troll prime. Yeah. Slightly ahead of the the other ones. He's looking right now if you pivot and come through here you're not going to be able to fit. Or if you can fit. So he's confirming with his opponent right now. Yeah. You can't do what I think you want to do. And that's if he uses those foxes. Yeah so the snow foxes if he if he moves them there the angle is then made way steeper. Yeah. For what he has to charge to pivot to get around them. Because he can see over them no problem. Yeah yeah. But to get around them see how he's now missing and he is hitting the frost fang currently but Tom hasn't moved that frost fang yet. The lord. So I think he's having a very problem with all of them falling off the base there at the minute. Off the hill rather. He's cursing me at the moment. So Victoria Warmer gaming says hammers and chaps seems popular for NA. Absolutely. That's the list. CK he says yeah it's just a final round. Yeah it is the final round and this is the top table of the final round. So Tom I'm going to tell you what tournament points he's on. Sure. This is the kind of information I can provide. Yeah. So luckily my phone doesn't interrupt with the interfere with the weird American antenna. So Tom is on 92 tournament points. Okay. Robert's on 81. Matt James 76 then Ed Herzig 75. So even a respectable loss from Tom in this game. Yeah. Is still is still pretty much securing him a victory unless he unless he gets just steamrolled. Yeah yeah and that's I think that's what he's saying. You know Robert if he really wants to do this he's got to go out and then Dan King in fifth on 74. He's against Chris Lynch. Oh so he's against the those elements. Okay. Who would you say and who's who's that one? Who's going to win? Is it the is it the balloons? Dan will probably still take that one. Okay. Dominates harder for him though. Yeah. Okay. He has some interesting games there. It's interesting to me. I feel like he's and then you've got so the French guys I think Arthur and the Dussell Quentin they're on seven eights and that is trident realm of Noretica and three Dwarfs. So and then Elliot with is so Elliot with obviously was you know I think we had Elliot on the he was on top table this morning he's down at 25. Little bit of a drop. Yeah yeah. Yeah. Yeah he lost his last game I think against trident realm. That is a tough match up for him. Yeah yeah. Trident realm can be a tough match up for any melee focused army. It's interesting because they they've sort of they've become quite more popular I'd say in third maybe. Maybe not. I'd say Salamander as well it's nice to see Salamander as kind of up there today because you know it felt like they need a little bit of something in second. In second edition they were not a lot more army. Yeah. I think in third edition they're very solid and and they're getting better. Yeah. Yeah as we were saying earlier on. Yeah yeah. Steven's list from earlier on is this is going to be going to get significantly better. Yeah. And that's good for me because that's all the units I'm building at the minute. So. Good. You're you're prescient. Yeah. It's almost like something you would see. I knew I was coming up. So this is if you just tuning in now it's Robert's turn two. The scenario is dominate. So I think he's just he wants to know if they're not slanted from the hill. Yeah. Where are they? Tom says hold on. I'll get some some dice. He's going to be careful there isn't he? He doesn't want to accidentally push them forward and they end up. Oh goodness. Yeah. I mean surely he's letting that and say dump on the table. Yeah. So those snow foxes are in a very similar to positions what they were in that game earlier on. And so the first fans backing up there. Yeah. He's taken angles and he's saying I'm going to make you come to me. The interesting thing about that is that Tom doesn't have to do anything next turn. How about say yeah you could just the snow foxes could be shot off. Yeah. That takes away that angle. Yeah. I also don't know what's on that lower part of the screen. But I do know on the other side the windmill. Yeah. I do know his his shooting is there or there's a decent amount of shooting. Do you want to have a look? Yeah. That's okay. Kyle's going to have a look to see what's on the bottom of the table there. Again on our small screen. We can't quite see. Oh. Mod says we need more hints on Sky Lord. Sky Lord I can't remember we did go through that earlier on. I'm sure Kyle might be able to come in and so I know the scorch wings are getting quite above and the Sky Lord is as well. I think maybe one of them gets Pathfinder. What's it the Sky Lord that gets Pathfinder or the scorch wings? Yes. Guess what? Yes. What's it going to be? Yes. Yes. The answer is yes. So what's on there? So what are we not seeing here Kyle? He's got two ice kin or the ice kin hunter troop. Yeah. And the two Lord on Frost Vangs are over there. So they're what towards the top of our picture or to the bottom? The bottom. By that windmill. Okay. Tom also has a Lord on Frost Vang that we can't see currently. Right. Down there. Just chilling out. It's a very interesting situation. But the ice kin hunters will probably be able to pick up the snow foxes. So we'll see. So Robert can use those to get rid of them rather than sort of early on when Steven sort of fell for the bait a bit. Didn't he? Yeah. I think Robert's a little bit more locked in in this game. It feels that way. Some people crumble under pressure and some people. Yeah. Well he's been on the livestream. You know. Yeah. He's been on the livestream twice now. He's a Davan. He was giving me some backshot earlier on as well. So he's obviously it's gone to his head already. The fame so it looks like he's been blasted back in there. When blasted one inch. He's counting up his dice here. This must be for the I guess this is for the elementals. Maybe. Could be. A lot of dice. Quite a lot of dice. Yeah. 18 dice. So there's not not I don't know there's much else that's rolling 18 on there. Sure. Use that on though. Remember that. Tom isn't marked anything yet. Okay. Maybe he's just rolling I don't know if additional stuff that we can't see. That might have been he was rolling for both of the ice can at the same time. So there's so snow foxes we can't see. Is that right at the bottom that are off the screen. There's no there's no snow foxes down there. I think it's the the ice can hunters two Frost Fang lords and Tom's Frost Fang Lord that can't be seen. Okay. So a bit more shooting onto these looking the foxes then. Oh, no. So I see where all these foxes are now. He's got some in front of the pack hunters two in front of the pack hunters and then one in front of the middle. Yeah. So you're saying Tom's still hung over they've got progressively worse. He hasn't. I don't know. I just that was mentioned. Right. Okay. Well, that hasn't affected his game so far. No, no. He seems very casual. Maybe it helps him. Yeah, maybe he's so busy thinking how horrendous he feels that he doesn't know it's what's going on the table. Yeah. It definitely has got hotter up here because the day has progressed. The intensity the intensity of everyone playing maybe that's what makes the camera go funny. It could be your heat. Heat and electronics don't mix. Yeah. So this is still Robert's turn two. Yes. It's like he's checking about something. He's always looking up a rule. How long do you get called out? How? I can't roll on this game. Goodness. That's too much pressure. Geez. Imagine if you get it wrong. I know. Send my Gilbert. Just change everything. Yeah. Matt, go do it. You got this. I wonder what they're checking. Obviously not. Probably not checking the scenario. I don't think. Yeah. It's the scenario. It's fairly easy. No. I don't think it's a scenario. It could be. I really don't know. I have no idea what they could be looking at right now. See this. It's nice that they're looking it up and trying to figure it out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't always happen. No, no. What about what you're saying? If you say something with enough conviction. Oh boy. I see Tom looking around. Oh no. I'll just go now. Okay. So Kyle has been called over. Okay. So it was some luck. So we're asking about so they're remonstrating explaining what's happening to Kyle here. Poor Kyle. I don't envy him on this one. So we'll find out what it is when he comes back. Maybe Kyle's going to have to go ask he's going to ask someone else. Obviously we've got some members of the rules committee here. Matt James is here. Maybe he's dragged up to rule on this one. Can you see what's that? Maybe something to do with his dice surely. It's a lot of chopping of the air and wagging of fingers. So this looks like something specifically to do with the dice maybe. I don't know. Okay. So Kyle's now gone somewhere else. Wow. This is tense. Obviously they've paused the clock while they sort this out and Kyle's up to go get someone else as well. So far we know we've not had many rules queries during the course of the event. I mean what Kyle's been maybe called out 10 times. I think it's been bad really over two days. 80 plus players. So I'm not saying is it the ice queen re-roll. I don't know. We'll when Kyle comes back we'll find out what it was all about. Okay. So now Kyle's asking checking with someone else. So they're just reading through something now. So I hope you've enjoyed the live stream. We've certainly had a good time at Firestorm. Very, very nice venue. If you're in the Cardiff area make sure you come and swing by. Lots and lots of space for gaming. Obviously lots of stock. It's also a premium store for Mantik. So we have a few premium stores in the UK and basically the idea is they have lots and lots of Kings of War stock, Terrain Crate, Dead Zone shortly as well. So yeah if you fancy starting a Mantik game then check out the premium stores. We've got Firestorm here. I think we're requesting Knight games. Table top Republic I think is won. Obviously if you know in the comments you can let me know. And then Mighty Lancer in Bridlington. Apologies if I've missed. Oh and Broad Sword I think in Ireland is one as well. So that's good obviously for the people in the EU if you want to order any Mantik stuff and obviously a bit worried about the fun of Brexit and someone like Broad Sword is a good place to go. Get your squared away. So Kyle's coming back and we'll find out what that was all about. Of course the most challenging question of the day that we had to get input on interrupting two other games Matt James and Elliot to see. So really unusual interaction. Hex is a spell that can be cast against another spellcaster. For every successful hit they take two points of damage. What happens if the spell that they're casting is Blizzard where it's D3 hits and you have to roll to see if you hit into what the D3 explodes into. Right. And what does happen? Based on the wording in the rule book. Yeah. The three of us agreed that it's the result of the exploded total hits that you then would would roll damage for. Okay. So what number of hits do you have at the end of the result? Yeah. Okay the final hit. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So what is actually a hit? Right. Not not what it's turned into but what what has actually successfully hit? Okay. And that was obviously Robert against Tom. Tom. Yeah. So Robert was trying to cast Blizzard into Tom. Tom had hexed. Yeah. Remember he had put that item. Yeah. Yeah. Fantastic choice. Yeah. And yeah he just said no I'm not doing it. Right. Because that Blizzard explodes into six hits. Yeah. Yeah. That's 12 damage. Interesting. Okay. Right. That is a tough one. Yeah. Yeah it's it's that's not really come up. I saw you pacing around. Oh yeah that was it was a flurry of oh we're not sure. Oh yeah so the pit yeah the pit is another premium store as well. So Lena says so happy you guys the live streaming been enjoying all of the game. Such a learning experience. Yeah it's been a learning experience for me. Yeah. Particularly watching you know we've had a few really interesting games. I think that you know Tom's game earlier on with the positioning of things screening. So here's the snow fox of charge into the ice elementals. Hmm. Has you left the trolls still? I don't I don't think he's moved them yet. Okay. So I guess that's a little bit like earlier on with the game with Robert and Chris with the elves just charging just slowing them down. Yeah stopping them shooting. Snow foxes have shot up to that position. Yeah. So who's got the hex? I forget now it was the it's one of the I think it's the thing. The tricksters. Yeah the thing on Crossfank. Yeah. Let's go the tricksters one. So he's maybe a bit worried about the Blizzard Ben perhaps. Oh sure. Yeah yeah that's it's an easy way to take out. Yeah. Quite a bit of thing. It's very effective against things like the fact on her. Yeah. Somehow Tom knew he would need that in this tournament. Yeah I mean it's a pretty one isn't it because it's like one of those items you just probably look at all the time and it doesn't do direct damage it's very situation. Yeah yeah. But if it's completely scared him off from casting with one of his casters. Yeah. A critical caster and that. And it lasts one turn. One turn. Yeah cast it again it's gonna cast again. Right. It's got a low chance of success. It's well I mean it's not terribly low but too dice you need four one four to be successful. But it's reasonable for something like that to fail. Yeah yeah. So I'd say Tom doesn't look quite as relaxed as he is in the game earlier on. No no I think he's seeing to me he's being patient but I'm not sure I'm not seeing yet what his plan is. No. For those ice elementals after the snow foxes are gone. Yeah yeah. He's committed here. He does have an exposed flank to the tundra wolves at this point. Yeah. And it would be interesting if he took the Frost Fang Lord into the tundra wolves in order to prevent that. Yeah. I don't think he would. No I think he's looks like he's just measured he's maybe spotted that. Sure. Or he can get shot obviously over the top maybe. Definitely can get shot. Yeah. So if the ice elementals can't get within their 10 inches at least. Yeah. Because the snow foxes are there and they have to stay an inch away. Yeah he definitely certainly looks more pensive. Yeah. Thinking a lot more than he was in that question. Yeah yeah. Yeah because you were talking earlier about how quick his game was. Yeah. This one slowed down quite a lot actually. Well this is a big game. Yeah. Robert Robert seems sharp to me going out there and doing the rules discussion. He seems really sharp. Yeah. So he's he's on it. But he knows what's on the line and knows he has to win big. So Andy 2d6 has opaid cameras the ultimate test of hairlines. Yeah normally Andy likes to comment on who's got the best hairline. I think that's why I just shave it. I think Andy Ransom had the best hairline a few years ago on the live stream. Yeah please he's got that crown. Yeah that that was good. What a joke. I didn't even realize since I didn't even realize I'm doing it. So it looks like maybe he's looking at the the Frost Fang there. So I think Robert's I think his local club is Tabletop Republic. So down south. So we've got a good crowd building we were talking about this this day. The crowd down south it's really you know I think we had a very strong scene in the north for obviously you've got the northern kings and north versus south now. Yeah yeah both playing northern alliance. Yeah we should have a sudden alliance. Yeah I guess that would be a video wouldn't it eventually. Yeah yeah yeah. So um yeah we're seeing a really good you know big scene growing in the south it's fantastic. Just means that you know if you live in the UK you're interested in Kings Roy chances if you find in the game now are pretty high actually. Very high. Make a man want to come over to this country and yeah be here for a while. Yeah I mean I'd say you're within let's say you're within an hour of a game of Kings of War or if you are. That's good for me. Yeah yeah I'm three hours is the closest I gotta go to get a game so. Yeah Victoria yeah and eyesight yeah if you're if you're at home you've got the pleasure of watching this on a huge TV then you can see all the decent yeah. So this looks like is he just measuring for on behalf of is he just checking for Tom there I think maybe. Frostfang jumping over Parkinson's yeah. He's putting this one here. Trying to see where his his flank ends up. Yeah. Because if those frostfangs the unit of frostfangs yeah. If their leader point is in the flank that's a bad move. But okay it's in the front. They can't be charged. So it gets close. But I would imagine they've checked it. Yeah. It doesn't seem like you'd hope not the sort of mistake you're sure. The fact that they spent a long time measuring it. What do you say looking at that. It's very close. I mean it's not quite I think it's not quite flush is it with the the arc as the isn't I think that it's it's probably in the front. Yeah. But by a hair. So that's what's getting me sometimes it's just how close sometimes it is. Do you know what I mean? It's just like you think you're fine. So actually Robert's got quite a neat thing for his walls. I don't think he's got it. He hasn't used it. He had a little it's a clear base. It's a clear base. So you can pick up the wall and still know where it was affected. But I don't think they've used it at the bottom of the screen where those the Frostfanger Yeah. Much slower game than the one earlier on. Certainly from Tom anyway. He's also moved much further into the into the board. Yeah. At this point. Is that the scenario? Is that just a threat? I think it's a threat. Because the shooting that Robert's putting out with both the bolt throwers and the pack hunters that he's got back there is enough to be an issue. Yeah. Where these shots are going to go with Tom's pack hunters is a question for me. They definitely don't have range on much. Not. In fact, I don't even think the one that's closest to the center of a board has range on the ice elementals that are closest to them. No. It's hard to judge those distances, but it doesn't look like it. And that's not who Tom's faced so far, but obviously there were no war machines or anything like that earlier on. I don't know if that's made a difference to him that he's had to. It's very strange. You know, in the U.S., that seems to be all that's in every list. Yeah, yeah. War machines, yeah. At least three. Yeah. If you're goblins, nine. Right. Yeah. I mean, you know, I haven't really walked around to have a look about the war machines, but so we will and I'll keep getting asked. The lists will go up. I will make sure they're all on the TabletopTA website. And then you can all peruse them at your leisure. You just need to link Tom and us. Yeah. And he'll take care of the whole thing. Okay. I'll post it for you. Oh. Didn't make you a problem. Spymaster. Yeah, yeah. He knows all the lists anyway. Tom, if you're out there, just go ahead and post them. Put them in the drop box. He's been just hacking my account. Yeah. And just checking it all away. I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. He's somehow gotten me to text him to them and I don't even know what they are. Like it's just happened. Yeah. Start calling them James Tom. So this, so what time's this round finish? So this round finishes at quarter past five. It's currently four oh five. Okay. So the trolls, this has been a long turn from Tom. Yeah, yeah. Really long. Very. I mean, I guess he obviously, some of it was paused while they sorted out that stuff. Yeah. But he's, he's coggy. You can hear the cogs almost going. Steam coming out. It's good to see. Yeah. It's good to see. He's not unbeatable. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I guess, yeah, you don't want anyone's steamrolling everyone. He's just not the Kings of War savant. It's making it no reason to play. Yeah. Yeah. And I like it. Robert's giving him a game. Yeah, I like it. It's a good game. So has he got a problem on this kind of Tom's left blank here with? I think he does. Yeah. Right. Nice cry from outside there of someone else. What just happened? Okay. It looks like he's maybe protecting the flanks. Yeah. Great. Some great comments. I don't know if these are gonna be picked up, but they're some really, someone's shouting, that sucks. Do you guys have Ices in the UK? Ices. Yeah. Slush puppies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's just slush of ice and fruit and yeah. Yeah. That's what we need. Juices. I just put it right on my head. No one's bought us an ice cream, man. I'm really disappointed. Tom's making us work for our money as well by keeping us in this room. Right. He's not going quick. Maybe we're gonna have regular breaks, Carl. You can go out, get some air, come back in. I'll go out there. He's all the way outside. Yeah, yeah. It's got a 40 degree difference between this room and outside. Yeah. Even in the room. And I'm not exaggerating. At least Fahrenheit. So I could open the, hang on, wait a second. I mean, I don't think this is gonna make much of a difference, but maybe. It might make some. Oh no, I made a difference. We gained two degrees of coolness. I tried blowing the air conditioner into this room. So it's Robert's turn. Three? Yes. Yeah. What's he gonna be doing here? Is he gonna be looking at just. You know, interestingly, Tom has had to be the reactionary player. Right. You know, from where it was the first time. Yeah. It's, it's, it's different. He's already engaged up top. The tundra wolves have gone in. Yeah. To the pack hunters. Yes. Is that favor the tundra wolves, would you say? What they got? They got nine attacks. I think that they're still hitting that wall. I'm not sure because they didn't move it. But I think it was supposed to be jutting out from the corner of that house. Right. Maybe Tom just looks worried to roll Robert into false sense of security. To me, just the choices. You know, the choices to protect things and to cover angles from Tom's point of view is very different from the game that he played earlier. I'm not even sure he did much even. Well, when he dies at it this time. Yeah. I guess that's the thing. Sometimes you do have to be patient. No, yeah. He talks about it. You know, Martin from Mantek, he's always trying to win it. Turn one and get as many dice, but and Robert had that surprise that he hit us with last game. Yeah. Yeah. I'm waiting for his opportunity to do it if he's going to get one. Yeah. Because the hex on that spellcaster has been a big deal, but eventually that thing is probably going to end up in combat and not going to cast that hex. And I guess it depends as well whether they pulled it off last time as well. Sure. Yeah. We didn't see I didn't see him roll for it. What's the range on the hex? 30 inches. OK, so you're going to reach most of it. Yeah. It's most of the board. And I guess actually putting it on the thing makes sense because you can see over everything. Yeah, OK. It's great move. So you say you've got a fox on fox action and then the ice elementals in between the ice elementals. He's charged the ice. Did he charge the ice elementals into the foxes? I think so. Yeah. OK. So you think they're going to go? Yeah. You hope a game like this isn't decided by something like snake eyes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It can happen. It's part of the game. Yeah. But you hope. Yeah. Yeah. So Elliot says thanks for shout out to Questing Night Games. So yeah, we've seen a load of people starting playing there. Also, that's Elliot. He's got the tactical War Games World website. They've been doing a lot of Kings of War content at the minute. It's really good to see. I think he's started doing some dead zone content as well. All the cool kids play dead zone as well. Yeah. I do. Yeah. Yeah. See. I have to make sure everyone knows I'm cool. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to struggle the shoulders there from Tom. Robert just asked nicely. I'd like to remove this unit. Is that all right with you? Tom's like, yeah, it's fine. So again, it just feel like it goes back to my darts comparison earlier on about the pace slowing the pace down. Maybe that's... We're not writing Tom off here at all. But we're just saying that his pace so far in this game has been very different to the one we watched earlier on. Yeah. Very different. I'm going to say I haven't watched any of his other games because we're not attentive. In my opinion, Robert's different too. Yeah, yeah. A bit more just what, more aggressive? I think he's more confident maybe? Yeah, yeah. Okay. He knows he's on the live stream. He knows the army he's facing. Yeah. Yeah. I suppose that's a good thing. That's an interesting thing as well. You know, you know what the army can do. So you know what to stay clear of or what to get near. Again, the laser points are out now. Maybe he's just trying to melt his units. Could be. Yeah. We certainly know that can't happen with Icy breath according to Matt. Yeah. Yeah. He's been in to clarify that toast can't be burned by Icy breath. Matt Gilbert's legs there passing to something. Let's see what's going on. It's coming this way. Hopefully. No. Let's hope he can get us a drink. Yeah. Just a cup of ice. Yeah. You guys don't have ice in this country. We do normally. Okay. No ice here. Okay. Yeah. We do, we do have ice in this country. Are you sure? Yes. We definitely have ice. No, no. I can confirm we have ice. Okay. This angle must be very important. The one that we can't see. Yeah. Typical, isn't it? In every single game there's always been a little bit where we can't see and that's where all that's where the game has been decided. Hmm. The fringes. So it's I don't think he was actually rolling Tom was just practicing rolling his dice. Maybe maybe he was trying to get a very casual like how much damage is he going to do here? Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. I think they're they might be official Northern Kings dice actually. Hmm. They've got their own dice. I think I was gifted one years ago. What? Just one. Okay. You're not going to do a lot like that. I've got one from so many clubs. Okay. I can actually make my dice out of all that I've got from around the world. So that'd be fun. So he's he's looking there as you're looking if you can get the frost fangs into the trolls. Might be backing them up again. Backing them up again. Okay. Could be. Yeah. Yeah. I mean that's interesting if you've got a The man puts brewer haste on them and Yeah. You've got a 285 point unit there that's just back to up so far. Well the thing is is the the turn that he can actually charge them. Yeah. Yeah. Is going to need to be critical. Yeah. It has to be on his terms. And Tom knows that Robert knows that. Yeah. The risk maybe is if he gets himself so far away that Tom can then back up. Yeah. Yeah. And Robert's out of the game. That's an interesting thing I see. Yeah. He could just eventually just go. Okay. Yeah. You're far enough away. Yeah. I'm not doing it either. Yeah. I suppose that's the risk isn't it? You just you leave yourself out of the game. And then just to look like we're on to maybe shooting now perhaps the elements of stuff. Yeah. They don't have regeneration to that. I suppose maybe that's one thing with the trolls. They've got it's regeneration five plus. I mean never works to me. No. But it helps. I'm still scarred by putting nine wounds on Steve Hildrew's mutant rat bean and watching him heal every single one. Yeah. It's terrible. I mean that's five plus. Is that a three plus? I think the rat bean the mutant rat bean? Yeah. I thought it was four. Okay. Maybe whatever it is. Look it up. It should have been impossible but we need to change that. Yeah. Yeah. If you can just change armies that I've been beaten by then that'd be great. Yeah. No five plus. Okay. It's five plus. Yeah. He healed every single one. So it looks like a few more wounds there on one of Tom's Frostfangs. Lord on Frostfangs. This is because the I think Rob is doing a bit of shooting here with the icekin hunters. They're certainly effective. Yeah. And now I think he's really he's putting pumping everything in at the minute into that Frostfang. I think so far he's done the icekin. He's doing the ice elementals next. Elementals. Icey breath. What's that? It's on fours. On fours. Yeah. It's technically a spell. Yeah. Okay. So it looks like he's pumped a lot there into the Frostfang. Maybe Tom should have hexed that. Yeah. So this is like the bulk throw is now into the other Frostfang. Interesting because in that obviously in that game we always tell you on, you know, Tom had that one Frostfang that legged it down the side. Sure. It looks like he's done quite the same with these ones. Yeah. He didn't really have the ability to do it Yeah. Thanks to the positioning from the tundra wolves. Yeah. Yeah. That's really that one deployment mess with him. So he's taking some hits there on both of them. So you're I'm assuming that was an elite reward. Yeah. I guess that's on the and both have hit both of it. To have war machines that hit must be so thrilling. It makes a big difference. Yeah. And the games they hit it it really makes a difference. There's Matt Gilbert's legs just passing there. I'm looking quite pensive still. I mean I guess could both those I mean could both the Frostfangs go here? Could. Yeah. Depends on how good those dice rolls are. Yeah. Nerve test. I mean he's Okay. So he's getting pushed back there down the hill. He doesn't even have to back up now. No. Yeah. Yeah. Robert's done the job for him there. Just helping him out. I'm not sure what those were. I think it might be done. The it's on the ice queen. Okay. So nerve test on the Frostfang. Yeah. There's blue dice with the nerve test. Roll again. Long gone. Next one. I think it was fine that first time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. He's just used to rolling twice. Yeah. Well Tom was a surgeon with those last time so losing one is a big deal. He's also lost an inspiring source over there. Yeah. Yes. You got the tundra walls into the pack hunters. Yeah. Tom's looking here. So this is ice elementals. Ice elementals. Into the poor old foxes. Foxes. Yeah. Yeah. Poor foxes. Oh yeah. You don't even have to roll the nerve. I can just pick them up. Yeah. Measuring inspiring. Yeah. Yeah. Fine. Oh. Yeah. They're gone. So you've got that snow troll. Which doesn't you roll to back up. Which doesn't you roll to back up. Which doesn't you roll to back up. It doesn't currently inspire. Okay. Yeah. But it will. Okay. So this is now for the wolves into the pack hunters. Wolves I would imagine. Yeah. You should be hindered here. Yeah. So it might be fine. Yeah. So pack hunters into the wolves. I think they'll do it. I guess the ones on the side of the flank maybe. They should. Yeah. They should do it. Okay. I don't know. I don't know if Tom is going to take the bait to go down the field to go into the pack hunters that are in the woods on Robert's side. Yeah. Yeah. Tom seems to have a plan already in place here. So. Yeah. And he's left no flanks. He's learned I think from that previous game. Sure. No little bits sticking out. Yeah. Kind of showered laughing from in here. So Tom's turned three. Right. Well now I think. So Tom's turned four. We'll go find out. Did Robert start? I think he did. I'm going to say yes. Yeah. So there's a bottom of three. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure people will correct us. What are they looking at here? Guys, precise isn't it? Mm-hmm. I think is he looking if he's he hasn't left. No. He hasn't. I say they're flush. There's no way. I thought that they were flush. So he wants the Foxes there. Fox on Fox action. Yep. Guys, he must have something in mind. Yeah, yeah. So he's moved them. Let's turn them around. So is he worried that I don't know what he's done there. Well, they could be in the way. Right. So he's Oh, right. Okay. So you can see over. Yeah. Because he's nimble. Yeah. You can go over the distance that you can charge. Yeah. The total distance traveled as long as the distance between the units, you know, as the crow flies straight across is correct. So that's what he saw there. So he saw he could actually get behind. Mm-hmm. Okay. Now that trolls in a bit of a nasty position. I didn't see that at all. No. It's kind of hard to tell from this angle, but now it looks like he's looking. So he wanted to maybe come on on to the Robert, maybe questioning about that. Oh, I thought they were coming to get you then, Kyle. So yeah, a lot. I mean, obviously, you know, it's a final game last day. They're just checking this stuff out. Sure. So it was like it's just to do with the Foxes. There's a lot going on. Oh, so he's got a flank on the ice element with the Foxes, maybe. Well, I mean, from where I'm sitting, he had already moved the Foxes to make charge of the troll. I mean, you can you can tweak your moves and I get that. But if you've done something to get out of the way, then you can't take it back. If you can't charge to your unit, of course. No. So maybe, you know, maybe he's just maybe he's not doing that. But I mean, as a part of this, wasn't the troll in the flank, though. We can't hit that corner. If he was in the front, it was okay. Yeah. But it's it's hard for us to tell. And obviously, like just like Star Trek, what is the thing that they haven't started where they can't interfere with alien life? Yeah. We can't go out there. He's taking it back. I don't think the trolls come back. Yeah. So maybe yet maybe looking at where the troll was. But Robert, maybe he's been nice and said since you couldn't do that, you can't do that move. Yeah. Maybe maybe they just realized that it was because like you said, you didn't see it. No. No. It didn't seem possible. Yeah. And they've apparently agreed that it wasn't. Okay. Yeah. To this for the question of me, I thought he may have gone for the unit of forest. I'm glad that he didn't. I think he wants to take the ice kin hunters. Yeah. Yeah. Tom Hardy, that's bait. I'm putting it up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tell Kyle, I'm going to get us a drink. What do you I'll I'll I'll meet you in a minute. Okay. Water. Okay. So I'll leave you with Kyle. You can do all the informative chat now. I'm just going to go and run outside for a bit. Go for it. Just to go down. I understand. It's hard to explain how hot it is in here. Yeah. Imagine a really hot oven. And then put yourself inside it. Yeah. Yeah. So what else is Tom thinking about doing with Kyle? He's got a rules query. So I'll take it. Oh boy. I'll tell you, well, let's just meet it a second while we just go and sort these rules. Yeah. We're just going to take a quick break. We'll leave you with that. That's bad. That's bad, sir. That's bad. Ha ha ha ha. Right. So we're both back now. Kyle's in his rules query. I've got some drinks cooled down as much as I can. I'm just going to pour this all over me. I don't know what we've missed. I'm sure. Yeah, yeah. It's been Tom's turn. It's got an hour left. So it looks like they're talking about... Okay, so we're still on Tom's turn here. Obviously, this is the problem when we step away. Maybe Matt. Matt, you could be our roving reporter and find out who's turn it is and what turn they're on. I think it's Tom. It should be the bottom three. Yeah, there we go. So we've got a new... With Martin out of the action. Out of the picture. Actually playing the game. I'm going to show John that picture real quick. We'll be right back. Okay. So we had a question from John Folks. FFS podcast host from a while back. He's asking there what's going on. We're being boxed in. Yeah, so Tom and it's asking what's on the flank. We'll get Kyle to go check. Unfortunately, the way the angles come... I think he's got some of his ice-skin hunters and another Frostfang on the right flank. So what turn is it? Robert's had three turns. Tom is on his third turn. Okay. So Robert's had three turns. Tom is on his third turn. So Tom was saying, you've already been to check actually, haven't you, Kyle? So where that women is that we can't quite see, that's ice-skin hunters and Frostfang. And also that's the Frostfang Cavalry down there as well. Oh no, Frostfang Cavalry, sorry. There was two Frostfang lords there earlier. Okay, yeah. From Robert and one from Tom. Okay. Looks like they're still just the one. Okay. Tom still hasn't actually rolled any dice yet. I could go and take a picture on my phone of that bit that you can't see and then hold it up to the camera. Yeah. Let's try that. Yeah. What? Up to what? No, no, no. Up to what camera? Up to the... That camera. The one now? Then everyone can see it. Yeah. That'll get in the way, Matt. Don't get in the way. Don't disturb them. I think it's fine. I think we'll go. What if I lie on the table? Right. Yeah, yep. Yeah. Just drop kick the table. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That won't mess anything up. Okay, so Tom's actually getting around to rolling some dice now. Not sure what or where. This feels like... It's been quite a bitty day with this one. Yeah. It's like he's sort of had a lot to talk about. Okay, so there's boxes of gum. He's going to do a dip forward? No, there's not much of a good option for him here because those ice elementals can turn and be surged. Yeah, sure. So he's showing his rear, which is the safest play, because the snow foxes that are on the other ice elementals are safe until the next turn. Yeah, yeah. The only situation that could possibly happen is if he somehow disengages withdraws a bit and then uses a surge to get him to the flank of that snow troll. Yeah. You just hope that Tom's maybe positioned it. But it was going to happen one way or another. Can you drop it? Okay. Again, we can't interfere, but if he drops the dice, maybe he left it out. So that was the foxes there onto the ice elementals. Sure. So these are the packages into the tundra walls, I guess. Okay, he's got a front and a flank. Yeah. Yeah, we can't change the cameras and point to the way they're set up there. They're not our cameras. Yeah. Also, there's a problem with the big camera that you see it glitching. And that's to do with the... Well, there's a problem with the camera and the amount of metal, supposedly, in the building. I think it's the wiring. Okay. That would make a lot more sense to me. Yeah. So tundra walls got... It's not a magneto interfering. I mean, you say that. Well, it could be. It's the magnetic personality for some of the players here. Tundra walls are gone? Yeah. So I guess, you know, in terms of the scenario, Tom's got a lot of units that are thereabouts, but... Sure. Robert can collapse very quickly, though. So we will see. Yeah. I must admit, at this game, we've certainly seen a lot more measuring, checking. Yeah, yeah. No one's assuming anything, which is... No. The question that they had was something that I had to go ask Matt and Elliot for input on. So didn't want Elliot to make a ruling, because obviously Tom and Elliot are in the same club. They know each other. But at the same time, it's a rule of rule. So it wasn't anything in favor or against Tom. Yeah. It was just, how does this work? Well, presumably, they didn't know who you were talking about on one side of the area. Right. No, I know. So it looks like this would be Robert's 10-4 now. Yes. So he's saying, Frost Fangs, do I have my range now? Yeah. If we were haste on them... I think maybe... And then Wild Charge won. Yeah. I think maybe Tom's saying that... I wonder if Tom was saying that he tried to make sure they were out of range. Maybe they've got... Maybe they've slid on the hail or something like that. It's an interesting question, because, you know, you say to your opponent, my intention is to be out of your charge range. Yeah. But then when you go to measure again, and it's in charge range, what do you do? You can intend it all day, but if you've actually mismeasured. I mean, I think it's... I suppose if you're on a hill like that, if the hill's gonna wobbly... Yeah, the terrain is wobbly. It looks close, but 17 inches with Wild Charge. Yeah. And then we're haste. Yeah. I think you're saying about them backing two up to get out of the game, actually, that there's 17 inches is... They're still gonna reach quite a lot. He was also the one that cast Wind Blast to push them back. So... Oh, of course. Yeah, actually, yeah, they got blasted back a bit. The ice elementals do have a play. I think he thought that he could have gotten that charge off with the Frostfang Calvary. Yeah. And then he could have turned the ice elementals into the troll. Yeah. If that's what he wanted to do, or towards the flank of the other trolls. Tom is just playing defense with that other troll. Yeah. So the pack hunters, they come out of the woods. Okay. Pack hunter and pack hunter action there. Mm-hmm. How can they take them out? I don't think they have any damage on them. Yeah. You've got the thing there for the re-roll as well, I guess. Yeah. They've got Pathfinder. So... Okay. I think he's choosing to do that. They have Stealthy. So shooting at them is not as effective. Yeah, sure. He comes out. Even with the piercing, it just drops in effectiveness quite a bit. So he's good for, you know, five, six damage. Yeah. And then 13-15 nerve. It's not great, but it also keeps that unit of Tom's from engaging something else. Yeah. Because if the snow foxes get picked up and then he wants to turn the ice elementals towards the center, that would then expose the rear to that same unit. So... Just... Tom lost all his Lord and Frostfangs, apart from what? There could be the one down in the corner. Okay, right, fine. Because we can't see. Matt's gonna go check. Oh, Matt's gonna check. A new roving reporter. Much more reliable than Martin, I'd say. Yeah, yeah. So Tom's saying you only need to invest in blank faces in the UK. Oh, they've been using that all weekend, Tom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Matt's brought a picture for us. Oh, Matt's brought a picture for us to look at. So who's got two of them? They're doing the Mexican standoff down in that corner. Okay. So where that sort of hindered, it's like a... Yeah, you've got... Oh, then there's... So there's Robert's there, doesn't there? And then you've got both of... Yeah. Okay. There's more ice-skin hunters, just south of the windmill. And obviously, you see the other Lord and Frostfang there. Okay. Thanks, Matt. You're much better at roving a reporter than Martin. Yeah, you should, sir. Yeah. That guy. He's in the doghouse now. Yeah. Well, big dogs in the doghouse. Okay. So I guess the ice element was just turned around there to look at the... I assume... You're probably using the icy breath onto the troll. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which is the full complement of attacks. Yeah, 18 attacks. It's effectively the same thing. Yeah. It's no troll. 13-16. I didn't see how many went through. No. Don't think any... I mean, in the last game, Tom used that troll as a little bit of chaff in some ways, but... He's done that a bit this time, too. Yeah. The Frostfangs he did end up putting looks like into the trolls. I don't know how they came to that decision. Yeah. But they are there in the middle. Oh, so they must have realized... Yeah. Yeah, okay. I mean, Frostfangs on trolls... I like the Frostfangs. Yeah. I mean, maybe just didn't realize... Well, maybe... Maybe forgot about the wild charge or... Could be. Yeah. So this is like shooting the Thane. I guess that's to get rid of the inspiring. Sure. So Tom's lost so far. He's lost. Packages. Some of his foxes. I think Matt's actually... Going to have a look. Matt's going to have a look. See, so much better than Matt. Looks like that bottom corner is okay. He didn't pick anything up, at least. Yeah. Looks like a lot of dice coming up here. Ice Queen. Heal, possibly? No. Surge. Yeah. So they shot and then served. All right. That's a nasty combo. Yeah, yeah. There's a very well-known player in the US, Dustin Howard. Yeah. Who is amazing with Surge armies. And his most recent armies, Northern Alliance, Ice Elementals all over the place. Yeah. Was he at Masters? Yeah. Yeah, I think I saw the list for that one. He played Empire of Dust for years, very similar. Yeah. We called it the Empire of Dustin. Right. Okay, yeah. Tom's lost. So Tom's lost. Two foxes, Packenters, and a Frost Fang. Okay. And similar, sort of similar actually, isn't it? So Robert's lost. Snow Foxes, Thunder Wolves, and some Ice King Hunters. So actually they've lost sort of similar stuff, haven't they, really, at the minute? This is a very big turn. Yeah. Because Robert's got the engagements he's wanted. Yeah. Yeah, that, I guess a Frost Fang could be a big one in the middle of it. Absolutely. Because they... He's just put the damage down. Okay. And there's no, there's like a five, and they're gone. And now they're spun around to look at the trolls. And the trolls don't have an angle to see them on. That cracks the game wide open for Robert. So guess what can Tom do to stop? I mean, he's got the, he's got his Frost Fangs down the bottom. You know, there's Lord on Frost Fang. He does. I don't know if he's got any kind of a charge range to get in there and stop it. He could certainly fit in that space. Yeah. And he could certainly see them if he needed to, over the trolls, even though they're both on the hill. Okay, this has been the elementals into the troll, I think. Looks like the right number of attacks at least. Yeah. Bulkflow's not doing much mid games. Yeah, not really. I went for the bit of Robert's belt hanging off the latch onto a Bulkflow and drag it off the table. Okay. Andy's watching the key things that are going on here. The troll is gone. Oh yeah, I see the bit of the belt. See now I've seen that. I can't stop looking at that bit of the belt. Oh, you've done it to me too. Yeah. So we've got more. So the ice elementals, you've got one of Tom's, you've got these Foxes and his Lord on there. Now into the Snow Foxes. Yeah, I think since the Fox, yeah, since the Foxes as well. Oh, he's got the Lord in there too? I don't know. Yeah, I think he has. Yeah, I remember he turned him sideways to fit in. Yeah, I would have chosen the Lord for sure. Yeah. Yeah, he's already got a bit of damage on him. The Foxes, yeah. This should be an easy one. No, no. Oh, Tom is rejoicing. There's a double one. Okay. Interesting. So they're just... They're measuring the distance. Yeah. Between there and the War Engine. He could disengage, shoot down a line with Nimble to get there. Yeah. Then again, as someone was pointing out on the stream, they've done a great deal. Those bolt blowers. I think that they have. Well, they did early game, I think. Really what you would expect to be dealing with. The Snow Foxes are free if they weren't charged in return. So this is Tom's turn four. Robert did go first. He's got to move another character out of the way first. Yeah. He can do what he wants to do with that unit. It almost seems like they forgot the pack hunter combat. No, I didn't. Let's see any damage down next time. Unless we just can't see. Sure. Unless he whiffed it. Could have. Yeah. Okay, so he is taking it into the War Engine. Yeah. I'm not sure that's the play I would have used there, but it's about the only thing that's going to keep him safe. Yeah. Robert's just making sure that he backed up enough distance. Yeah. Tom says, I only want to go as far as I could fit to get through there. Yes, he's using blank bases there, I guess, just to make sure. Nice to point that out for Tom. So this must be at the bottom of the just off screen, the trolls into one of Robert's Lord of Busbanks. Yeah, I have to imagine. But you've got to be worried about those cavalry in the center there. I mean, they were going to be toast one way or another. So I think Tom is just betting that he can turn around afterwards, bait him away from the dominant zone. Yeah. He's trying to hope that he comes out, forgets the scenario and just sees the bloodlust. This would be turn five now, right? When Robert goes, yeah, it will be. I don't know if I'd want to turn away from the dominate center and turn five, you know, to leave it. Yeah. Because the center is actually just above that hill from our view. Yeah. But now if he doesn't turn, he's got a threat. But there's ice elemental hordes or just make sure he's looking to be there. Make sure the elementals haven't got a charge there on or a flank maybe on there. Could be measuring his own range to shoot. Yeah. So it looks like he's moving. That's another frost fang there at the bottom, which you can't quite see on the camera or on the big camera anyway. See different pose. Who was the only one from who had the arms crossed? Was it Steven? Can't remember. Yeah. I suppose it was. The sway, the back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tom may be taking the approach that I want to kill as many things as possible. Yeah. To get the best possible loss that I can get. Because you know, I think the math was something like Robert needed to win with 16 points. Yeah. And if Tom can make it so he wins with 15 points. Yeah. Okay. He still wins. Yeah. Unless someone from that second table could somehow leave him. Yeah. We've got some spectators now. Oh, who's this? It's, it looks like Ian Sturgis watching him. And John, who we watched, played the Elliott in the Basileans yesterday. He's played Elliott with the Basileans yesterday. Okay. So it's like a bit of shooting on the frost fangs there. Now the thane into the ice elementals. I mean, I don't think he did anything. He didn't do anything. No. I mean, wow. Oh, he's got Christian with one thing. Hang on threes. The worst part about that is that he didn't turn off the icy breath. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I guess that's probably what he's trying to do. Just get one. Sure. Yeah. So on to the Parkinson's now. Assuming it's the Parkinson's. Yeah. So they're gone. So what's Tom? He's, he's going to put these in now. He's going to spin them around. You've got to start looking towards the middle at this point. Yeah. So Tom's turned four. Yeah. And I suppose actually, well, maybe those frost fangs are in a bit of a precarious position. Maybe. I don't know. Who? It doesn't seem like a bad one to me. No. At this stage. No. So this must be the trolls and the frost fangs at the bottom, I guess. Yeah. Maybe. We'll see in a minute. Oh, no. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry. That was the frost fangs to the the war engine. Tom doesn't want to be shot. No. He may have no choice. The bolt thrower crew is like, load it up. Yeah. Not a lot you can really do there is he's, uh, he's going to get an arrow in the face. Yeah. Yeah. These look like the trolls. Yeah. Okay. That's a, yeah, that's a lot of dice. Must be a fling. Yeah. I guess it. Well, I think they'll, when Matt came across it looked like it might be. Yeah. So yeah, 36 dice. Tasty. Hitting on fours. Wasn't very good. Wasn't very good. Uh, oh, then again, and roll again. Yeah. So that looks like the, that's a frost fang, lord on frost fang. Turn the trolls around. So that's, um, one of Robert's, he's got the other frost fang that's there just underneath the, I think he's like your angles. Hey, that's a new catchphrase. Check your angles, folks. Does he want to bait him into the flank? No, he wants to keep it in the front. Because I guess they, I've got the speed to potentially charge in, kill him. Sure. Turn it around and shoot back. But if Tom still has a frost fang over there, he could tie them up. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Keep them out of the game. Because denying three unit strength is, is worth it. And I guess the trolls potentially speed six. They can potentially get back in. They can make it to the middle, I guess. Sure. Yeah. Most narrow on Robert's turn five. The problem is he's leaving difficult terrain. So he can only go six that first move. Okay. Of course. The second he goes 12. So what's he going to do here with these? What would you do for your Robert? Keep him there. I think I, Okay. He's charged in. Yeah. He's not questioning that. He must have charged in with the frost fang, frost fang lord and the cavalry. We'd love to know where the bubble is. The 12 inch bubble. Oh yeah. Where the barrier is that could help determine things. I'm sure these guys will look at some point here soon. Yeah. You know, that's not something I want to go and interrupt a game. No, no. Yeah. Again, remember the directive from Star Trek. We can't get involved. Correct. So five o'clock. How long is left on this game? Let's have a look. Half an hour. Something like that. I think we start finish. No, it's actually 15 minutes. So they're going to have to get it, maybe get a bit of a wriggle on. How long is our drive tonight, Rob? Oh God. Our drive is a long, long drive. Long for the UK, long for the US. That's about three and a half hours. Okay. They're not long for you, long for me. And that's just to drop you off. Oh. And then I've got to drive. I see. I don't even know where I'm going. Don't worry about it. Yeah. Well, we were announced on the stream of the way. You might have your fans throw me in the back of a van. It'll be like a squid game. We'll gas you and then take you to an island. I think based on where the circle should be. Yeah. That Tom's got the pack hunters in there already. Right. And it's 12 inches, right? Yeah. I think it's somewhere around here. And it would be, you know, it's a bigger circle than you think it is. But Robert's got the ISA lentils potentially, but in what direction he's going with them. It looks like he's going after that Lord on Frostbang. No. Is he? Maybe Tom's playing mind games, or he knows that he needs to have enough kill points to take a big enough win. Oh, no, half an hour. Sorry. We're finishing a half five. There we go. We're a bit behind for this round. And it was mainly due to Martin Thoreau's fault because he wanted to play downstairs. Yes. Yeah. So we'll blame Martin for that one. I understand that. Yeah. Don't take Kyle to an island. Just keep him. I mean, we're kind of on an island. It's a big island. Yeah. It's a big island. Yeah. So yeah, maybe baiting him away just to get him away from the middle of the game. So Packhunter's units went two. Do you reckon he's got all of those in the middle there? No. No. Just two? Just two. Okay. But I'm guessing. Yeah. Hey, that's what we've done all weekend. Let's not stop now. So he's moved out to try and get that Frostbang. That Frostbang's got some wounds on it, so he could ice a breath in. He could absolutely. Then spin round, go back. He can't reform after routing it from shooting. No, but I guess. Oh, no, I guess he'd be. So this is Robert's turn. I say he's just breath. So I think he's just shot it. He's busted out. Well, he could do some other shooting first. Yeah. Oh, and then he says, yeah. Just short. Oh, just short. Yeah. I guess then again, it looks like there's a fair bit of wounds on them. What bit of wounds on the Frostbang? Yeah. He's yet to roll the nerve. Yeah. So the minute it looks like in the middle, Tom's got five units strength. And well, we're assuming if we think those are the guys in the middle. And Robert's got three. Oh, well, whatever he rolled the nerve for, they didn't go. Had to have been the Frostbang Lord, right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, could he step up? Yeah, okay. And the Lord on Frostbang has to run now pretty much. Yeah. Okay. So that's the ice elementals into the Thane. I mean, that's 11-13. You think he's in a go? Sure. Now it looks like it's the big dudes at the bottom, the Frostbang Cavalry. And oh, and he's got the Frostbang Lord in there as well. Oh. Yeah. So this could be pretty nasty. Unless there's some horrendous nerve roll. Yeah. Now it's like he's, is that rolling for the Lord? Yeah, the Lord. So one, two, three, four. Four. Geez. I think he's adding up all his hits together. Yeah. Okay. They do the exact same. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. It's damage. Right. Possibly. Oh, no, he's sort of in the nerve. Yeah. Okay, so the troll's gone. Yeah. He's certainly lost a lot more than we've seen so far today. Yeah, absolutely. Now, do you spin round with the, or do you just leave them where they are? That's the problem. I don't know if you can. Because if you give your rear to that other Lord on Frostbang. Yeah, yeah. Do you think it was your bait and switch? Yeah. He's in trolls as chaff. Why not? Yeah, yeah. I mean, so that was Robert's 10-5. He's got one more, one more. One more for sure. They'll roll obviously for seven. So Tom's just charging men. That's interesting. I don't know that I would have done that. So the thing's fine. But Tom's a better player than me. Yeah, okay. Is he just trying to stop the icy breath? Maybe. I don't know. Yeah. Okay. It strikes me as very strange to be this late in the game and be that far away from the center. So what's your Lord, unit strength one? They could make all the difference. Yeah. Yeah. He's deep in thought. He's thinking. I mean, so at the minute, Robert, the one he's got, obviously he's only got the elemental scoring. I feel like I would have taken the Lord on Frostbang and just run him away. Like full speed run him towards the center. And then it looks like he's got either a flank or even possibly, I'm pretty sure it's a flank. But possibly a rear with one of those pack hunters on the ice elementals that he didn't take. But I guess that would take him out. It would take him out. He's only losing two unit strength to keep three unit strength out. Yeah, I suppose. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, you know, the trade's there. But again, I'll defer because I know for a fact that Tom is a much better player than me. Yeah. So when do you think they're going to start marking up the center? Maybe they just instinctively know. Well, the center, I think if he moves just a little bit there. Yeah. He's trying to protect himself from how he's got them staggered. So he's looking right now. So he put that die down. Yeah. That is the center. And then 12 inches from that, he's got all three of those units. Yeah, that's six. No, it's not six. Yeah, it is six. Six and then seven with two. Two for six, seven with snow boxes. Slight nudge. The Thane, Nick Williams is just spying on the game there. I can see him. So they've got 20 minutes left in this game. That's his clubmate, right? Yeah. He's going to know what's going on. So I guess if Robert turns around, gets a Frostfang cavalry in, that's giving him six in the middle. But it just leaves his, just weeding wide open, I guess, to a lord in the back. So what he's trying, what Tom's trying to do right now is move his lord to a position that is out of the arc of the Frostfang. Yeah, yeah. It can't be charged. But can still make it to the middle. Could possibly make it to the middle or attack. Oh no, he's just going straight in the front. I mean, they've got a few wounds on them, that Frostfang. Why not? They're out of the zone right now. Again, keeping three unit strength out of the middle. Yeah. These look like pack hunter shots. Yeah. Yes. You know, just like they're just... Is it are you in range? Shooting the ice queen possibly? Maybe. Looks like he's not. Yeah, I guess 12 inches isn't far, is it for the range there? Yeah, it's... So, Joseph will a windblast and surge combo come into play for the last turn's scoring. Yeah. That's probably the trick he's been held up a sleeve and probably why why Tom wants to target that ice queen as bad as he does. Looks like she's fine there. Yeah, I don't think he's done it. Yeah, yeah. It's like Robert's struggling to find the... Could she be wavered? It'd be nice to know. Yeah, there's nothing to indicate she is. Sure. So this is like... Down there at the bottom. So so far Lord Unflossed Fang with his ice elementals there. Because actually it's interesting as it is I suppose from Tom there actually because he's kept that ice elemental in combat and now they've got a choice of moves that they turn around and shoo him off for... Oh, no way. He's done it. He's done it. Wow, okay. Tom says forward. What do we know? Forward. Well, backward. Isn't it backward? No, I'd want to go forward. I would want to go... Maybe they're going backward, aren't they? Actually, seriously. Recharging? Oh, no, they'll make it. No, no, of course not. I'm going mad. I'm going completely mad. Hey, look. It's now game six and I've totally lost my mind. I mean, I'll say... I thought Tom and... Well, I thought Tom was at this. But actually it's looking like... Almost like he knows what he's doing. Who would have thought it? It's interesting. We've got those ice-kin hunters now. Yeah. Making a run for it. Put that out. And then he's nice and open for a turn seven maybe. I mean, if this game goes to turn seven, who do you think that favors? This is turn six now. I think it favors Robert. Yeah. Because he's just got the ability to respond. Yeah. So I think if I look at Tom... Tom put those maybe, I think. Possibly put those foxes where he did and the Thane to stop him doing any breath attacks maybe. I don't think it would stop the breath attacks. Okay, would it not? It's not. He's doing a lot of measuring anyway. Yeah, yeah. Oh, Thane's got a bit of... He's going to slide down sideways, I believe. Yeah. Half your speed, so three inches. And then that's it. Are they done? Are they in there? Is he trying to surge him? He doesn't need to surge him. No. He could surge them to get extra range on the breath attack? Yeah. Okay. Which it seems like he's already in the range at least of one of them, so depending on where he wants to go. He's like, oh, did I leave that exposed? I need to check that. Yeah. So what's the charge on the other side? They go... So they're nimble, aren't they, the Thane's? Oh. What was that? The bolt thrower's going into the fat hunters. Have they missed? Two damage. Surge. Surge. Now I see breath on one of those. Unless he's clipped the foxes, which Robert didn't align them. No, I don't think he... Although Tom did move them a little bit, but I don't know if that was too... This looks like... They got nudged possibly? Yeah, that looks like I see breath. So seven. Seven. 13, 15. I think they're out of the inspiring, unless he's not very inspiring. Is he from the bit? The Thane is not. No. Not sure what this is. Might be one of the mate, the Ice Creams. No, I think it's the Ice King Hunters. Okay. He's done some damage down there at the bottom. Right. So this could be huge. Right. Both of those pack hunter regiments could come off. He's going to do the Frost Fang first. Looks fine. Nope, not done yet. This is big. Not inspired. No. Oh, okay. Yeah. So they're fine. I think so. So at the minute, Robert's got three. Tom's got five in the center. Correct. This is where that extra turn, like I said. Yeah, yeah. Here's the Ice Elementals. If they can free up a possible seventh turn by getting rid of that Lord on Frost Fang. Yeah. The shots that they could put in, Yeah. You know, alone. Yeah. Just reducing the unit strength in the middle. And I'd be surprised if he doesn't do this. Okay. So that's that. That's cleaned up. Now they can spin around. Yep. Okay. So this looks like it's going to go to Tom's round. Oh, no, he's got some more combat to do. Actually, yes, he's sorry. Oh, is he? Where's this then? Is this maybe they elementals did clip there? I don't know. Would they be able to shoot the icy breath? And so I'm not sure what this is. Could be the... Well, I guess we'll soon see if Tom takes anything off. Yeah. Uh, okay. So that must have been Robert's Frost Fang into Tom's Frost Fang. Sure, sure. Yeah. Yeah, because there was another one down there. Will the game go on? Based on them not moving and shaking hands, I'm going to say yes. Okay. Oh, no. So they've got an end. And that is what you're going to say that is... That's five to three. Five to three. By my math in favor of Tom. Oh, they're rolling again. Oh, there's... I think they were just seeing. The proper order is that whoever finishes the turn is the one who is supposed to roll. Okay. So maybe that they were discussing that. Yeah, yeah. And Tom said we'll go ahead and roll it. Okay. So we're pretty sure... I mean, hang on. I guess as you look in what could have happened... What could have happened for turn seven? That's the point that they have to get to. The red die right in the middle is the actual center. Like you say, it's... Having that big round thing in the middle of the board is quite handy actually. So we think that's Tom's got that. I think we've got Tom with that. Yeah. Well, in that case, I think we... Are we looking at the... We can go confirm? We better confirm. I don't want to say because I already upset Matt James by saying he was on the top table and he wasn't. So I don't want to call it. But I think we may be looking at this. Go check. Go and check at this one. Yeah, yeah. Go on then. Oh, they're all checking it off now anyway, so... Kyle's just checking, but we think the Kyle's is there still. I think he's just hearing everything that's been going on. That's it. That's it. So Tom... So Tom is... Unless anything else has happened. I wouldn't announce it yet. No, no. It seems very likely. Tom is the winner of this game. Yes. There we go. There you go. There you go. So thank you very much for everyone that's been joining us this weekend. I've enjoyed your company, Kyle. That's been the highlight. Oh, that's fantastic. Yeah, yeah. And I hope you've all enjoyed it at home. Got some good tips about what you're doing. I just would have been watching from, you know, 4,000 miles away. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you would have been having all the rules queries handled at home. So I think we are going to go outside and cool down. Absolutely. But yeah, so thank you very, very much. Obviously, the final standings will be on table top TO shortly when Matt Gilbert's finished doing those. But it's been a great tournament. Thank you very much to Firestorm Games for hosting. Thoroughly enjoyed it here. And I hope you've enjoyed it at home. Yeah. Good bye. See you next year for another exciting class of Kings.