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Yeah I took who's a public affairs analyst joined the conversation But I'd like to set up with the leadership newspaper this morning and the banner caption Talks about the kaduna train attack eight bodies recovered 26 injured survivors narrate or deal It's boldly written on the front page of the leadership Now above it You have the NAS transmit constitution amendment bill to state assemblies above the boat caption of The leadership newspaper NAS transmit constitution amendment bills to state assemblies So Ludo unveils 20 commissioners designate Governors showcase states potential a Dubai investment submit It's very interesting Wondering what we hope to achieve with that fans on rampage after ganadash Nigeria's hope of World Cup and that's also on the leadership this morning and just before we move away Federal government freezes over 30 accounts of illegal loan companies Convention APC has disappointed Naysayers, this is what Ahmed Lawan is quoted to say the last quank was so dumps the PDP for NNPP These are the headlines on the leadership newspaper Moving away from the leadership to the punch nice babe had the main story this morning is The Kaduna Abuja train attack Buhari National Assembly Governors demand tough actions survivors a recount or Dale With three riders their outrage a great killings of doctor Unionists government officials in Kaduna bound train attack Airlines hold flights to Kaduna over attacks rep summon NSA service chiefs and the IJP. I Felt my soul leaving my body recount survivor who sir another passenger shot Those are all the riders on that particular story under Kaduna Abuja train attack above the must-have Nikon bars Undercapitalized insurers from new businesses or those claims Settlements that's on the front page are just above the much head of the punch newspaper Below that poor Nigerians to heat 95.1 million in 2022 that's according to the World Bank Customs hand over 3.9 billion narrow ad drones camouflage others to army state assemblies receive 44 bills and Constitution Amendment or a police salary increment reps summon minister accountants general others cargo importation Clarence agents plant fresh strike the manned duty Review of the stories on the punch. Oh a you students murder fall on all six are fiat to a prosecute hotel Yeah, others three Quarra killer kidnappers shot dead Weapons chumps recovered Presidency I want about APC's intimidation the Claire's Wiki those are the stories you can find on the front page of the punch newspaper Away from the punch newspaper. We take a look at the daily independent Abuja kaduna train attack workers Union blames railway management Management Workers Union blames railway management for the Abuja kaduna attack and you also find eight bodies recovered 26 persons injured and several abducted Senate acts Buhari to declare full-scale war against bandits should we call them bandits or they still call bandits or terrorists? once military To bombard terrorists and claves to restore peace Attack victims recount how we experience and like Nigerians. I am deeply pained That's what the president's quarter to say. These are the riders underneath the boat caption PDP zoning committee meeting deadlock Buhari insists 2021 finance act empowers FIRS to collect vats You back six review of consolidated revenue from 2% to 4% says 50% of schools in Nigeria lack furniture and people's seat on floor 2023 presidency we're not ganging up against a tickle PDP governors and Syracuse Squoted and that these you find on The page of a daily independent and just before we move away Africa needs investment opportunities more than ever Lumilu is quoted on that as he received the time 100 impact award Costum intercept drones military uniforms others at Lagos airport again gunman attack train in station Or train station in kaduna These are the headlines on the daily independent newspaper this morning All right the last paper we are reviewing this morning Is the nation newspaper? all of the papers this morning they don't carry down the Kaduna Train attack as expected at the nation caption. There's this way eight dead 41 injured many Still missing in train attack Teenable I can't celebrate when people are mourning victims of train crush Or crush there, okay 44 constitution review bills for houses of assembly that's above the mass state of the nation are just beside it PDP zoning battle shifts to At home committee All right aspirants engage Proxies why Nigeria deserves a national career by Syrica that's the minister of aviation there Woplin eagles failed to peak World Cup ticket All right, most stories on the nation newspaper Nigeria losing $14 billion annually to a farmer her the clashes says or she by Joe that's the vice president Those are the stories really okay. There's one more who could just take before we just wrap this all up a fire She is a associate joint on these STP Kwan-Kwaseo dumps the people's Democratic Party those are the major stories on the nation newspaper this morning Would you have a Ziko? Yeah, I took who's a public affairs analyst. He joins the conversation this morning It's good to have you join us a Ziko. Yeah, I took good morning Thanks for having me. I hope I'm on me. Okay good. Thanks for having me All right, Ziko was that of you know, the papers are the review of the papers this morning with a story that talks about your friend I mean you talk about him all the time Kwan-Kwaseo dumps the PDP for NNPP Just few more days before the 2023 election Let me tell Nigerians for free that The dynamics of 2023 is not going to be like people think and that man is a politician He knows what he's doing. He understands very well what he's doing and what he's done is not at all an Accident or a coincidence? You see the game of politics we need to understand how it is done He knew and told me personally he told me that If you went for primaries against Amboal, he will lose If you went to for primaries against hierarchy, he would lose if you went for primaries against any of this will he will lose But that all of them combined cannot beat him in the general election But that PDP has a certain mentality a certain arrogance where they don't look at people's strengths They play to their interest and in politics you must understand that you have to go to the people Somewhere along the line So get a man that will win for you and not your friend that will lose And that is his thinking and he did all the calculations and everything that man today is the most popular person across Northern Nigeria anybody that gets him as President or vice president is sure to have a good chunk It is a presidential candidate and he goes with a Southern person that is generally acceptable the win because he's got the votes He's got the liking of the people he left office for so many years and yet He kept in touch last year. He sponsored 370 Not a northern student not even northern students Nigerians for a master's degree program as an individual on my birthday He actually came to you and during the meeting. He said he's promising for scholarships to acquire bomb students From beginning to the end He just does this and has taken education as if his life depends on it and it's very rare For the north that we think of the north they are not interested in education. It's not true Okay, he has decided to make Kano and from Kano the you know The the Conquistia movement and everything they've moved from Kano to cover the whole of the northern parts and his main Instruments against popular opinion that people think is education during education all these Thousands of people that of young people that he has empowered sent to school They all wherever they are in the world. They all come down to Nigeria and To their villages and mobilize their people. So this guy is just a walking, you know What they call dynamite is exploding everywhere now with that Wisdom says look if you stay in PDP the adult rubbish you stand out and Show them that you are not a fluke and this man stepped out created NNPP and Within 24 hours, let me let me exaggerate it within a week He had full structure in every word in the northern part of Nigeria and a good part of the southern part of Nigeria Including a quiet bomb state Now that is what is called a political capacity That is in my opinion what I call phase one There's going to be a phase two. He can be a president and a vice president There's going to be an alliance somewhere along the line and I can tell you for free and I'm very happy that Mr. President signed the electoral act because it's just an act of God the good will of People who have been praying and I will give the president the credit I said so for whatever reason, you know, you know, like the Bible says the son of man will need to Crucify the water home through which it come. So the converse is the same Nigerians will be rescued and God bless that man that will be used and the president has allowed himself in spite of all problems To sign that electoral act, which means that your vote will count and people will be shocked all this You know each time the mainstream media do analysis and talk of APC PDP APC PDP I just think that they're so politically naive with all the respect It's not it's not a look. Okay. Well, so I just stepped out one day an NNPP an unknown party Has become the song on every live in on the in the north and Very soon big people following this, you know, the the APC crisis and everything and the PDP They are joining him. So that guy is going to become a big party overnight Party is not named. It's the people if a man like Bolaq made tinubu decides to join any party No matter the party even if there was no name before overnight that party becomes a big party imagine a possible alliance a Relationship working relationship between Kwan Kwan so and a man like tinubu networking with what we call the third force within the ADC a conclave to give Nigeria what they call National rescue team government of national unity, you know, the NNPP coming down to network with ADC and probably if APC succeeds in pushing tinubu out and he gets involved in either his party That's NNPP or ADC or even a different party and then these three come together We who is PDP who is APC so when we do a political analysis Let us be not stuck in the past and be able to know that and this was what destroyed PDP They said we all you cannot remove any company. We've been here. I will be here for the next 60 years listen to the arrogance Today APC show we will have you asked Nigerians what their real concerns are Have you seen the anger in the land are you living your cocoon and them so detached from the realities of life that people are very unhappy What will make you to vote for you as PDP? What will make you to vote for you as APC performance or the people being taken for granted? So I salute the courage and the political dexterity and deftness of my friend and brother a large Kwan Kwan so All right, mr. Nade hooker. Let's leave on Kwan Kwan so for a bit You know all the papers this morning, you know a leading with the gruesome Issues in Keduna state our different and captioned You know put differently You know, I really want to get your candid opinion that the punch the way it captioned its own story this morning Buhari National Assembly governors demand tough actions survivors recount or they are Why are we demanding tough actions? It's not as though it's some emergent situation in that particular state, you know The train attack had happened sometime last year, you know, Kaduna abuja highway You know is notorious for attacks by bandit and all of that. What kind of tough actions are we actually demanding right now? Why are we so reactionary mr. Nade hooker? I'll tell you two things. I've said this so Many times that I start to sound like a broken gun Nigerians need to wake up and draw a line between governance and politics Nigerians need to wake up and draw a line between governance and politics Politics is a door that leads to a room called government In that room the people that are inside that room called government. They are the administrators of our common patrimony They are the policy makers that shape our life While the door is a recruitment center the room is a do or die The room is contained by people who will either let us leave or get us to die So we must be so careful the people that is like there is a nuclear button Inside the room. So you must be careful to set Sending send people inside that room if not so one one one irrational person We just press that new to nuclear by button and then explode the whole world That is why Nigeria has become the overtic capital of the world because we send in people that have no Understanding of what government is outside of state capture outside of themselves I thought that they are they are very mild now myopic, you know, you don't mind set We send such people there and we expect a good result It's not gonna happen. It's not possible That room called Government is the next most powerful room after God That's why you can't take the risk of just sending anybody there is my friend is my supporter is being with me He's my loyalist you send them to the room where you have the nuclear button of this country It shouldn't be now why am I saying all this? Look at Kaduna How can a government for four years not know that it does not take rocket science? for these terrorists to Face that rail line and in fact they should they could even bomb the rail lines You know so that the train does not move. How can you abandon the road and Concentrate on the rail to go to Kaduna for seven years What is the distance between Abuja and Kaduna? What does it take for you to deploy drones and get into a satellite tracking so that if anything happens You can play back to the scene and trace it and track it back. This is modern technology Well, but the minister is it can I talk I mean the minister yesterday while he visited One of the train station talked about the fact that they had made their requests They had talked about it and made requests and But the request wasn't granted because we're talking about having digital surveillance camera and so Maybe we don't have many Maybe we don't have money, but we have money to buy to cannot yet. You see we have we have this this state capture entrepreneurs in government I Said it the day they talked about to cannot jet to cannot do Nigerians in government think of contract I Think of contract. I have said that if they had given a Think tank I Will be so glad to be part of that thing tank one-tenth of that money What will go into is take the wind off the sail Do you understand me take the oxygen off the flame? What is the wind? What is the oxygen of these terrorists? It is unemployed youths Who get into their end club not because they love it because as a way can you imagine you turning the Northern states to a Construction site you get a lot of the young people involved They get to do so much and they make money and they are living every day because of personal interests They don't want any problem to come and anybody to come and disturb your problem Like I told you I say that one of the most lazy and Intellectually ingenious things to do as a governor is to have 10,000 aids 1,000 SSV is where you pay them money for doing nothing. Yeah, it will never do that I rather insert. Let me give you a very little illustration because we need to start to think if you pay a guy 250,000 error a month doing nothing in a year You've paid him 3 million in 12 in four years. You've paid him 12 million He lives large buys a good car lives in a good house after four years He has nothing but if you carry just 2 million and train that guy in a trade and give it to him as a non-interest yielding loan In four years that guy has repaid your money and turn your 2 million into an enterprise Where he is the CEO and his life is met Compared the two people in the first person you spend 12 million you achieve nothing in the second place in the adult Spends 2 million recovers a 2 million get Entrepreneurs who is employing people create jobs my brother What is so difficult to think in this because we get people into government who are not thinking in terms of service and Creating wealth and stability But in terms of contract so that they can have enough money to run the next election Nigeria's you wake up. I don't blame these people, you know, I just you wake up and think All right, and quickly let's look at the leadership newspaper here. It talks about the rampage that happened yesterday shortly after Ghana dash Nigerians hope of the World Cup and that's you know below the Corner of the leadership newspaper. It feels like history will protect itself again yesterday 1973 at a time where Ghana had an encounter with league in with Nigerians in Ligas, you know the Ghanaian boss said a blaze and Some people yesterday said that this was beyond just losing a game, but it was the people Pouring out their frustration of all of the disappointment and everything that's going on in the country. How do you react to this? I? I Add this at the risk of sounding unsympathetic. I Think that it's a blessing in disguise Nigerians need to be angered irritated frustrated to a point Where they sit down and think that that reaction of burning these going to rampage. No, no, no, it's not it You are Spiting you are smiting your nose to spite your face You don't need to burn any boss that boss would be the one that will carry you tomorrow if you burn it You lose both ways There's a friend of mine that used to say something that his father told him he said no take vets leave food Take vets drop the food You understand me. I found it very interesting. No, take an angry No The anger use and chop the food because you need the energy of that food for you to be able to move on with your life What am I saying? Nigerians need to be angry enough to sit down and think Angry enough to be violent No, that's what I just said. No violence is not even an option Violence is spiting you know smiting your nose to spite your face The boss that you burn down is the boss that you need to carry you tomorrow That that was in 1973 And the things that you would need maybe the business of an innocent person who has been struggling No violence is not an option is to sit down And think Nigerians should get so angry We should be pressed to the world so much so that in 2023 We no longer thinking there's a 500 naira 1000 naira We sit down and say guy We want a proper manager to come and manage our first if we had proper management team We would not be having ad hoc approach to to games one club does not come overnight It takes time to come And you build your team you give the people their view you let the people know that it's like in my team I'm running for governorship my team. We don't spray we don't spray the money We have a vision. We have a story and everybody coming is coming in as people who are contributing to get a better future for themselves If you need money, I can give you the theme of the people to go People are discovering that I don't need to be given fish and need to be taught out of fish Because the fish they gave me last night is finished and I'm hungry again But the guy that has lent out to fish is continuing to eat and feed his family That that story is starting to resonate. I don't go for cheap solutions I go for sustainable and lasting solutions and Nigerians are waking up imagine having a political meeting Where you don't pay anybody a dime the place is full They switch up your phone and they sit down for four hours to listen to you It's never happened But it's happening today people need to be angry enough to think again People are saying forget those rallies forget to start to have town hall meetings start to talk to us Don't have these rallies where you bring 500 people from where you're coming from the same 500 team is where you're carrying around Let me let end on this. I made I made a call to a billboard that I wanted to put up And that guy told me that because of that billboard for 30 days is 400,000 And that there's another one that is close to a million for 30 days And yet this was splashing all this is all about people should start asking questions all that money Where is it coming from all that convoy of so many cars? And we know how they are. Well, where is the money coming from the money that you're enjoying today The club that you're clapping today is the misery and the poverty that is waiting for you tomorrow Nigeria Nigerians have to wake up to start to think All right, mr. Etoca. I just saw another disturbing story On the punch and newspaper It is attributed to the world bank It says poor nigerians to heat 95.1 million Not in five years, not in 10 years, but in 2022 the world bank is saying that this is coming at a time when The federal government has tried to extend some of the issues we Have it in the country in terms of why cooking gas prices are high They're saying that it is not just a limited to Nigeria alone. It is a global issue But my question right now is the fact that Poor Nigerians are increasing and this year it is projected to heat 95.1 million Now let me tell you You know that it it it it's an effect That you feel with time It's like you have an accident and something you know gives way It at night That the full weight of that pain dawns on you this 2022 the projection It will be worse in 2023 Nigerians need to know that And because you see we are borrowing When you borrow you borrow on isp or a lot of times, especially with the state government If you have a smart governor He will know how to reschedule the debt But you know that there are certain reschedulings that cannot be rescheduled again except on what you may call non What's the word on a basis that is not a you know non-concessional basis When you go and study like I did The debt profile of your state You will know that Bringing people who are jamboreans Into government is the worst thing that can happen to you You need to bring in governors that will not stay in government house That will drive their own cars That will not have aids and security all over the paraphernalias of the office must be stripped to barest minimum That will not have private jets that will shut down all the Offices that they have outside their state. How can I be an acquired one person and I have a liaison office in Lagos I'm a governor. Then I have a liaison office in a booth in a in a I can even understand a butia Which is indicated first case is not necessary. You have a liaison office in Lagos Somebody an investor comes to you. He cannot come to your state where you have airport first class You have first-class hotels and you have first-class road first-class infrastructure Somebody gets to Lagos. He cannot come to your state. He wants you to receive him in Lagos If not, so he will go he should go he never thought of investing in your place in the first instance And then you are investing so you have to have a in every state not acquired one You have to have governors who are thinking differently And because you're thinking it don't get a payment path. That is a Greek adage that says you start learning death from sleep Is from the campaign that you know whether this man knows the problem where we are facing There's splashing money all around. What do you think the the mentality of that person? We need to come to realize that we have problems We have problems and that chapter 2 section 14 subsection 2b of the constitution That is what you should ask everybody first. Please. What is chapter 2 section 14? What subsection 2b? If the pen says what is that just just just mark x across that person because that is the The matching order of government the security and welfare of the people Shall be the primary purpose of government Is not you is not your comfort is not your friends I want to ask you as a governor. What percentage of your budget is resident in your state? And what percentage is capital? Just as we cost it down quickly because we're being prompted to Just move away and this is under daily independent The workers union blamed railway management for the attacks What are your thoughts on that and yesterday we had you know the president of The workers union in the center gg he said that constantly they have talked about this issue They've raised some concern. They were even even threatened to went back and strike action, but All of that didn't fall on an ear. There's listening About the railway go and look at the contract That contract to be best of my knowledge. I hope I'm wrong, but I think from what I've done It's it's like a PPP And the people need to make money and recoup your investment The more unsafe our roads are The more people are pushed to the rail lines The more people are pushed to the rail lines The more money the administrators of the rail concession will make The more you play to the gallery and impress them the more you move your whole wrist to one lane And that land you can do it if you are a government that thinks ahead That land you let everybody know that the tracking of that land from the beginning to the end is fully covered by satellite tracking And that anybody that crosses the lane at any time of day we can track you back So many kilometers where you came from. This is security is not the physical Security is first and foremost the mindset That is where you win the security battle So either the managers of the rail were too eager to make the concessionaires happy By playing to their whims and caprices and forgetting that their sole responsibility is to the people Or they should come and show us evidence that they had made these memos They should find a way of leaking it that they had made memos available to the management To government and that's how far they can go They can only recommend and that the management the government Could not help them in either their budgeting or implementing the ideas they put forward If they put this forward We will be able to forgive them if they cannot show evidence Then we'll throw them as a complicit. That's one conspiracy theory. Thank you so much. Is it come? Yeah, I took uh, we have to let you go at this point We appreciate your thoughts always on the breakfast to have a fantastic day Thank you so much and my love and my prayers to all Nigerians. Thank you so much, Mr. Nya etouk If there's no the breakfast and plus tv africa away from all of the press we'll be going down What happened this day in history and after that we'll come back and have our first conversation Kaduna ease in the news and we will be talking much about that in a moment stay with us