 Good morning ladies and gentlemen, my name is Detective Acting Superintendent Tim Trisise and I'm the Relieving Regional Crime Coordinator for the Southeastern Police Region. This morning, I'm sorry to report that we had a very tragic finding last night. You'd be aware that there was a police investigation being conducted yesterday in relation to the deaths of a man and woman who were located in a unit in Arbor Avenue, Rabina. As a result of police investigations, a motor vehicle, a Silver Holden Viva station wagon was located in northern New South Wales in bushland outside a casino late last night at around about 9.30pm and unfortunately located in that vehicle was a deceased male and a young five-year-old girl. You'd be aware that a child abduction alert was put out yesterday afternoon in relation to Kyla Rogers and it's a very sad and tragic event that we discovered Kyla's body last night and she was deceased. In relation to the investigation, the police support and prayers and our hearts go out to the families of the victims in relation to this matter and their families. A number of the families are residents of New Zealand and we are liaising closely with the New Zealand police in relation to providing all support we can to the families that are in New Zealand. In difficult circumstances like this, when we have a triple homicide and what we believe to this stage to be a suicide, it's not easy to explain exactly why this happened. What we know is that two of the victims had been in a long-term relationship and that relationship broke up. It had been broken up for some seven or eight months and the deceased lady who is Kyla's mum had moved to the Gold Coast to start a life afresh. We know she'd been residing in the Arbor Avenue unit for approximately two weeks and Kyla was going to a local school. We know early yesterday morning Kyla's maternal grandfather attended to collect her to take her to school as he was of the habit of doing and unfortunately in quite tragic circumstances he discovered the incident inside the unit where they appeared to have been quite some violence and there were two persons deceased within the unit. Subsequently a major police investigation commenced involving detectives from the Gold Coast criminal investigation branch and the homicide investigation unit. Our investigations centred on trying to identify the deceased male person in the unit. At this stage we weren't aware of that person's identity. They also centred obviously as a high priority on trying to identify the location of Kyla. It became apparent to us on information that we had at hand. The Kyla had gone to bed in the unit Sunday night but she was now missing come Monday morning. We convinced investigations to try and locate Kyla's dad. His whereabouts at this stage were unknown but as I said already we weren't aware of who the deceased male person was in the unit in the early stages of this investigation. Investigations the day unfolded led us to believe that Kyla's father may have been in northern New South Wales. This was able to be established through use of various technologies which allow us to in some circumstances identify the location of mobile telephones. It indicated to us that it was possible that Kyla's father's mobile telephone was in northern New South Wales. We contacted New South Wales police and worked closely with them yesterday in relation to trying to identify exactly where this telephone was. Unfortunately it was not a specific defined location and it was very difficult to identify exactly where the phone was. Ultimately we became confident that Kyla's father was not the deceased person within the unit and that Kyla's father was unaccounted for and that Kyla's father's car, the Silver Hold and Viva was unaccounted for. Initially there were a number of possible motor vehicles that he may have been associated with. As a result of this the child abduction alert was put out and as we subsequently learned a member of the New South Wales, northern New South Wales community reported to police after hearing a media report that they had seen a similar car to this on a dirt track 100 metres off the Bruxner Highway at about 10.30 that morning. They passed this information on a New South Wales police, patrols were conducted and the motor vehicle was located. New South Wales police subsequently entered the motor vehicle and found the two deceased persons. Whilst identification has not been confirmed yet, we sadly suspect that deceased persons are Kyla and her father. The cause of death will be subject to a post-mortem, but we suspect that death may have been caused by carbon monoxide poisoning. The matter is now going to be over-viewed and investigated in relation to a coronal investigation in both Queensland and New South Wales and in due course I guess further information will unfold in relation to attempting to explain why this occurred. It's obviously when these tragic events happen that we all look for answers and try to explain why it happened and unfortunately rarely is there a simple explanation as to why such a tragic event happened and such an innocent life as Kyla's has been lost in these sad circumstances today. Needless to say the investigators are fairly gutted in relation to the result that happened last night. We were hopeful of having a positive result, but it didn't happen. There we are. Our priority at the moment is to provide all support and counselling for the families, but police officers, yes, in due course they will be. Have you identified the second male that's in the unit? We do believe we now know the identity of the male. It hasn't been released yet. His next to kin we believe are in New Zealand and we're doing everything we can to make sure that Olivia's next to kin are advised. We believe the male person to be a family friend of both Kyla's mother and father. So they weren't in a relationship or just a friend? It's too early to say what the relationship was if any. He had been a friend of both the mother and the father for some time. When was the baby through all of this other baby? Kyla has a 20 month old brother and fortuitously on the Sunday night he had spent the evening with his grandparents. Do you think Kyla may have witnessed what happened? Investigations indicate that probably not. Probably not. There's some evidence of the scene which indicates that she was asleep and bed at the whole time. Is the baby also the child of the father? We believe so, yes. Can you give us some ages on the victim's side, Kyla? I can. Kyla's mum is 31 years of age. The deceased male who was found with Kyla's mum is 33 years of age. Are you releasing the name of Kyla's mum? I think we will let it today officially. It is Tanya Simpson, yes. Obviously Tanya's parents are aware of everything, but we're just making sure that everyone needs to know has been told. Are we in a spark of New Zealand connection that's only in relation to the other deceased? And also Kyla's dad. So the New Zealand connection is Kyla's dad. Kyla's dad and the other male who was found deceased in the unit. So Kyla's mum is not from New Zealand? Not that I'm aware of, no. Her parents live here on the Goldcast. And it was her parents that the baby... That's right. Do you know what part of New Zealand you're on? I believe one family is from Hamilton and one family is from the vicinity of Nelson. I was born on Sunday on the Saturday or Sunday before her death? No, I can't. Sorry, I can get that information for you, but I can't confirm that. Do you know who the other... The Kyla's father was 40 years of age. You mentioned that someone in Northern New South Wales had just spotted the car at 10 o'clock in the morning, so do police believe that they may have died a lot earlier in the day? Yeah, it's a good question. We won't probably know until the postmortems completed, but we certainly suspect that they possibly have been deceased during the night after the incident at the unit. At the time that person drove past at 10.30 in the morning, they were already deceased. That's only an assumption, but we'll know more after the postmortem. So there's no... I mean, as far as issuing the child deduction alert, you're confident that that was issued at the earliest possible time? Yeah, it was... Well, it's easy to be clever in hindsight in these matters, but you can't release it until you've actually got something specific to release. At that stage, we had to release information about a vehicle, and we weren't sure exactly what vehicle he was in. We also, for operational reasons, at that stage we're still hopeful that we could use other means to actually locate them in northern New South Wales. Unfortunately, it didn't pan out that way. Do you think that Kyler and the father may have been dead before the bodies were discovered at Rabina? That's quite a possibility. It's quite a possibility, but it's only an assumption. We don't know yet. So you're thinking perhaps Kyler and her dad died on the Sunday night before the bodies were discovered at Rabina? Look, we think it's a possibility. The mobile telephone that we were tracing was in northern New South Wales in the early hours of Monday morning. So they were already down there in that location. We don't know at what point, though, the carbon monoxide incident took place. Is it fair to say that you don't have anyone else you're looking at now? You believe that investigations are continuing. A major incident at Burley Head Sea will continue for some days yet, and there's obviously a lot of enquiries to be run out. But at this stage, we believe we've had a triple homicide with a suicide. How hard is this for you as a father to cope with something like this, even though you're a police officer and see this kind of thing? Yeah, look, it is. When I got the phone call at 27 minutes past 9, last night, it was just a kick in the guts that I think it was for everyone. The whole Queensland and Gold Coast community would have the same feeling this morning getting up and hearing that Kyle was now deceased. It's just a waste. All of these people dying is a waste, but particularly an innocent child like this one. Tim, given that neighbours did hear screaming, but no one seems to have acted on that, do you think that there's a message there for people? Yeah, look, again, it's a wonderful hindsight, isn't it? Look, clearly if people hear screaming and they hear a distressed person in distress, they should contact police. It's better to safety than to be sorry. I certainly make no criticism of any of the people who live in that location, but who knows how things might have unfolded if we'd had an early phone call. Was there any indication that children were known to the department at all? Child safety? No, we have... Our investigations to date have shown no evidence of domestic violence in the family and no evidence of any child protection matters to this stage with uncovered no history at all. Were they a married couple? No, they weren't married. They had been making plans to marry. I understand even wedding invitations had been sent out. They'd been together some eight years, but unfortunately the relationship broke down prior to the wedding. Where have they been living before the Gold Coast? They've been managing a caravan park in Inverrell. Was he still down in Inverrell when he came up here? She left Inverrell and moved to her parents' place on the Gold Coast, and he left the caravan park approximately one month after that. So he had been absent from the caravan park for some months prior to this incident. Do you know where he had been living? No, we don't. Has he got connections in Inverrell or Northern East Auckland? I guess they established some relationships and friendships while they were there, but we don't know what these ten of those are. It's from New Zealand originally. And so the cause of death of Tanya and the man found in the unit hasn't been established yet? No, look, early indications is that they're probably stabbed, but we don't know exactly what the cause of death is until the post mortals have been conducted. Could I just clarify? They were together for, as you said, eight years and they had been in Inverrell. Were they together for that entire duration in Australia or had the relationship started in New Zealand? I don't know. I'm sorry. Have you spoken to the family yourself? No, I haven't. Inspector Brian Swann has got a carriage of those matters. Could I just clarify? From what you said, I take it there are pretty strict procedures around the government when you issue which are the abduction of them? Yeah, and they vary depending on the nature of the abduction too. Obviously an abduction where it's done by a stranger as distinct from where you suspect you know who's done the abduction has some operational impact in relation to the timeliness of these matters. As the day unfolded yesterday we started to suspect that it was possible that Kyle's father was the person who'd taken Kyle and that's totally a different situation to where you just get a child taken from the street by a complete stranger. Is there any contact issues at all as far as him having contact with the kids that you're really aware of? So as far as your concerns you're confident that it went out as early? It did, without a doubt. There were a number of other operational issues in relation to the investigation that we were dealing with in relation to New South Wales. We were hopeful that we were able to locate them early in the day with the mobile phone but it didn't unventuate. And as I said, you can't release the alert unless you actually have some information to release in the alert and we didn't have it at that stage. Any reason why you wouldn't put out a description of him and name him in the alert at all? I guess... Tim, is it possible that they were dead before the bodies in the unit were even discovered so they'd driven down there and were dead before anyone even knew? Yeah, it's completely possible Bianca but we won't know until... indications at the scene was that they had been deceased for some period when they were located at 9.30 last night but we don't know exactly how long. The 20-month-old boy is he going to remain in custody of the grandfather? At least temporarily, yes. The car is dead. Have you officially released his name? No. No. He's got these relatives and family in New Zealand and he doesn't have a lot of close associates or family in Australia or none that we've been able to discover so we're working with New Zealand police to make sure everyone's advised over there first. Thanks, Tim. Thanks.