 Welcome back. It's time for our second hot topic and analysts half of us are saying that huge There will be a huge drop in quality of telephony service What's that about? Well, I have comrade O'Connor, Abdoulahi a general secretary private telecommunications and Communications senior staff association of Nigeria. He's my guest and he's going to give us all the necessary information Good morning to you comrade O'Connor Good morning. Thank you so much All right comrade we're relying on you to give us a breakdown of all of these not all of us are really into much You know so much into what's happening in this sector. So you're going to be our driver Well, it's been 15 years I understand since the critical national infrastructure bill was presented to the national assembly How significant it is passage to the telecom sector? Okay, thank you so much at the passage of the bill similar to the Very significant to be important to to the sector in the sense that you have just like the PIB petroleum industrial What you call is now is no more a bill actually an act the petroleum industry acts, you know, if you have Something is just like that actually so This time what we are looking at is you have a law backing up the telecommunications Infrastructure, you know, so The importance of the PIB is what is like into is what we can equate to what this Critical national infrastructure deal we are talking about It's like so This is as simple as that. So why is this drop of telephony? But what what's what's the likely reasons or what are the likely reasons for this drop that analysts are forecasting in the drop of telephony service actually, it is It is more about the destruction the damages that are done to Telecommunication infrastructures, you know See a situation whereby the fiber that I laid are destroyed You see a story whereby the base stations are tampered with you know batteries are Stolen Lot of damages done on these infrastructural Facilities of the of the telecommunication sector. So if this persists definitely automatically if you have significant negative impact actually on the telecommunication services being rendered So you said so the non passage of this bill is Contributing to the slow upgrade and expansion of telecoms for structure services then Not necessarily actually not necessarily by that I mean That even With the passage of the view it doesn't mean that the damages are being done. It's all these infrastructural Automatically sees I get in it. It's not it does not really mean that but to a very large extent With the existence of the view if it is passing to law it will Perhaps to a very large extent the third goes that are found love in destroying all these infrastructures You understand where they will know at the back of their mind that yes, if for instance the law stipulates Soso number of years for who so ever that is caught damaging any infrastructure within the telecommunication sector To a very large extent it should be by to prevent people from going ahead To destroy all these facilities. So that is what literally the role of the bill is going to I mean the act if Eventually passed He is going to to play, you know, but like I said earlier, it does not really messes really mean that automatically It's going to put a stoppage to it But to a very large extent it's asked to prevent it and then my concern actually which I Not necessary trying to be pessimistic per se, but the concern actually is that The implementation of whatever law that is put in place You know, it's not the challenge we have in Nigeria is not that of a lack of a loss But the implementation of those laws, you know, if this bill as fantastic as they may come out to be Is passing to law. How do we go about implementing them? Are you getting it? So if you are able to Apart from what do you call it passing the law? I mean passing the bill into law Well, I saw a story recently I think I saw it this morning or yesterday that telecom mogul Mike adenugas global com has refused to pay 200 billion narrow license renewal debt And others to Nigerian government amid ncc executive vice chairman lambata's protection Can that also be a problem? Yeah, definitely. It's good to be a problem in the sense that If it's failure to pay the necessary fee the licensee fee It feels to to pay and they in turn the ncc gets I mean reacts to it by withdrawing its lanceses automatically what it means is that It's global com would not be able to operate within Nigeria again. And everyone on that Network We have to I mean, they are they will not be able to communicate as they have always been doing before now. You understand? So definitely in the interim it will have a Impact on the telephony services in Nigeria, you know, though I said in the interim in the sense that As time goes on those on that network particular network works to migrate to other network You understand both in the end and that is something that Nigeria cannot afford I mean, what has led to this problem? What is it that has led to him refusing to renew the license? And why is Why is the protection of the executive vice chairman and butter an issue? What are the games or politics going on in that sector that adnaren Nigeria's like us do not really understand? Can you tell us more? Hey, it's a very Very likely said, I mean, it may be very difficult for me to actually see what is really happening between them. You understand? I really do not have such information except if for me to go into a guesswork for me to be Just to be creating what may be going on. I actually do have any information pertaining to that But I want to believe that all the networks Apart from go back on models to they are doing well within the sector. They are making their revenue. So I don't see why Go back on maybe the only one that is in prison to pay others are paying. So I don't know what this is or what reason they will have Not to be not to pay what is supposed to be to pay. So I don't have that information actually Okay, okay let's still go back to this issue of the The the forecast by analysts that there will be a huge drop in the quality of telephony services When when when they talk about this drop, what are we possibly going to be experiencing when this happens? First and foremost I am not I don't know if I've been able to really explain it the way I should The drop the analysts are forced. I mean are foreseen is as a result of damages that are done to telecommunications infrastructure in Nigeria So if these damages these destructions continue automatically It will affect What do you call it? Is it called? It will affect data also usage I get in it We are we are talking to I'm not live on your tv station We are having this conversation via Zoom which is done online If this destruction persists we may have difficulty in communicating to ourselves as we are doing presently So these are some of the things that you will get to see if this destruction persists I want to let me tell you that beyond the telecommunication sector You know the telecommunication sector is a life wire of the economy of any nation Every other sector relies on telecommunication sector. So what it means is that This Problem if it persists and it is not arrested Even party sector will be impacted Are you seeing anything that suggests that it is being arrested or it's being taken care of to forestall This which the analysts are projecting? For the analysts who have come up definitely there are no significant efforts being put in place to to stem the tide of the telecommunication sector So what you are saying is that The significant effort being put in place to to stem the tide of these dastardly acts You understand no because you get to see that Even construction Companies are also popular in the destruction of these Telecommunication infrastructures when they are constructing their roads The the fibers that are laid under the ground Are cut off and they when they damage them The body now is left on the On the metal providers to start And as you I mean looking for forms to put them back in place You know then apart from that with full destruction from or by the citizens also It's another issue We understand all these base stations you see that are all the stars that you see that are mountain Virtually everywhere in our society They are There are certain Equipment that make them up around one of them is the country are you getting it? Yeah, so most of these base stations Needs no address if the security persists automatically to have negative effects Well analysts also believe that this cni will bring the lasting solution Networks. Yes. Yeah, can you hear me? If you have any parts on the call you make If you have any parts on the data on the network, you cannot make use of your Internet facilities again if care is not taken. So that is why all Do you get from Damaging all these infrastructures and at the same time stealing all the equipment that are installed You know, so maybe also like he also said earlier that the government means to Put this law in place, but then they would get to know perhaps From doing ahead all these damages. They are causing to Telephone I mean telecommunications infrastructure in Nigeria. Yeah, exactly the analysts who are forecasting these are they also believe that It will bring the lasting solutions needed you know To frequent fibercarts infrastructure theft network congestion community access denial and other issues Well, thank you so much for being a part of the show this morning comrade okono, abdulahi For your time. We say thank you Thank you so much for having me. It's always a pleasure to be on your feet. Thank you. All right Well, that's the much you have for you today on the breakfast and indeed the week because we this is friday Thank god it's friday, and I hope you have something really interesting planned plan for your weekend I am morrin menon waysigui and on behalf of the crew I say, thank you for being a part of the breakfast throughout the week Don't forget to join us on social media I am morrin menon 23 on x and may not tv morrin waysigui on facebook Subscribe to plus tv africa and plus tv africa lifestyle. 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