 you kind of have like almost like a young philosophical, like you're a young guy with a mature philosophical outlook. I think that's really cool. So this is, you know, the world record holder, the greatest guy ever. So that's a cool thing, right? I mean, I geek out on this too. When I get to see Krauser, I mean, he's like by far, not just like he set the world record and which I said was always about Krauser was, yes, it solidifies that he is the absolute greatest ever, but his number and volume of throws over like 22 and 2250, he just like crushes everybody historically. Like you can combine all of these great throwers, the amount of throws and they don't add up to what he's done. So he's really is just absolutely amazing. So here's this six, seven, 320 pound guy who moves like, you know, like a ballerina, the guy's incredible. And then here's Zane Weir at six, three, 100 and what were you, were you 114 kilos at the games as well? No, I was 112 with the game. Oh, so you were lighter? More or less, exactly. Okay, so I mean, it's pretty incredible. Now to put it in perspective too, like I was talking about how impressive, you know, your results are, you threw further than Tom Walsh through in Rio, like Tom Walsh only through 2138 and got a bronze, right? You threw 2141, four years later, those three guys all through essentially a meter further. Is it's absolutely insane, right? So talk about your technique and how a guy that weighs you know, 248 pounds is in the Olympic final. You're the, you're the lightest guy in the Olympic final. I know that without even having to look anything up, right? Sure. So talk about like, I see, you know, and this is kind of similar to some of the stuff I teach. You look like you have a more active, you know, you're consciously looking like you're trying to open the left arm more aggressively, but in a controlled way. I always say you open the arm, not the chest, right? Because if you open the chest, you're going to fall into the throat. So you're creating this sequence obviously between the lower body and the upper body. We take this and we put it into six pillars. Funny enough, I told you, I trained mechanics and then you'd said something earlier, you got to react. And that's what I teach my throwers. When we throw, we react. We don't think we react, right? We do drills and we do progressions and we figure out mechanics and then we react. So how you, when you do your offset, tell me at any point where you want me to set, and again, depending on how much you want to give away or how much insight you want to, you know, I know. So the left arm action, like Krauser, you see what I would say is he's more chest over, arm, shoulder, chest connected, long path. And whereas to me, you look like you have a little bit more active, right? You're not as big as him. So speed start to finish. That was something I had talked to Joe Kovacs about a couple of years ago. He said, Ryan's so much taller than me, I've got to be fast, right? I've got to use my speed. And he's a freak, like Joe's like sub superhuman strength levels on top of it, right? So with you, with the left, I noticed how it's kind of looks to me like it's an active left side upper body to kind of, I call it pulling yourself, kind of you open it and pull yourself into the throw. And then at what point, like, and it looks like you consciously, obviously try to stop the arm here so that you can wrap your body and kind of snap it into the power position. Yeah? Is that? Yeah, so I, when I think heavily coming out the back, I don't even think about the arm. I think about the left leg. Okay. I want to, I'm basically just waiting till my toes are kind of pointing the direction that I want to throw. And that's, for me, that's the hardest part of throwing is waiting for that left leg to completely turn, you know? Criticism of my own technique is that you can see the angle of my, from my hips through my shoulders in comparison to Ryan Alina, hell of a lot out the circle, towards into the circle, which is not good for me because that takes the shopper ball off the axis. And so, you know, that kind of makes the 7.2 kg a little heavier when it's, when it's not above your hips, you know? Right. I'm very lucky, I think for whatever reason, I haven't worked it out. I don't know why I've got a few theories, but I'm very lucky that I'm explosive. So I get under it quite quickly. And I think that is something I like to work more on is just keeping the shoulders a little bit more back. You can see Ryan's heel is infamously low. Right. But what that allows you to do then is it takes your central gravity more out the back of the circle. It gives you a wider whip around. And that's basically what you're looking for. You want your right foot as far away from you as possible because that's the central fugal force that kind of generates. And I don't think about anything else after the left foot hits the ground apart from waiting for it to hit the ground again. And then the rest kind of just takes care of itself. It's like autopilot. Right. So my only sensations I kind of focus on is the left at the back and the left in the front. And then everything else kind of just bleeds into each other. Very nice. Yeah, I call this... So my system, we call this your wind-up. I call it pillar one. And there's a lot of important variables in the start. And then this is what I would call the hinge. The hinge is the left side. We refer to the ankle and the knee and the hip. I coach my throwers. It moves like three hinges on a door. They move in unison. And that's the axis that sets up the throw. The upper body is gonna follow. And so for you, how much do you focus on like with your setup? How much of this did you guys work on? None. None. So to be honest, it was kind of like, I did that because when I was young, that's what I saw the other guys do. And now it's almost habit. It's not even necessarily conscious. So it's very... I kind of do it just to get a bit more... I almost think when I think about it now, I kind of, instead of taking the weight off the leg, I kind of might wanna keep the weight on the left, but take it further from a rotational position. Whereas, because I think for me, especially not having too many throws with a correct technique, you don't want to have too much variability with your weight off that left leg. You kind of wanna keep that left leg under your body the whole time. Right. So that's the other thing, because I battle quite a bit with that. Those three are supposed to hinge together, but my hip often sinks back down. And that kind of gives me a problem. So I, like I say, I wait for that left to go. I've tried to focus a lot on the dorsiflexion of my right leg, which is harder to do than one would think, especially for me, but that helps quite a bit with me. And it just gives me such a beautiful wrap in the end. And I don't think about stopping that left arm. It kind of just happens because I know what it feels like to be in a good position at the end. And that's what I love about feeling as opposed to thinking about it. There's just too much to think about in that short space of time, as you said. And so I think that knowing what it feels like to be in the right position, you kind of just like, you wait for that. And then you throw it. You don't worry about wrapping, rewrapping. I've heard all these terms when I was sort of kind of figuring out in the beginning, but at the moment, I'm not focusing much on wrap and whatnot at all. It's all just what I'm doing at the back. So you're just, again, you're very reactive. I think so. Which has pros and cons. It does, right? But, and ultimately, I've been, I coach, I have a small club with developing athletes. So I have athletes that are new and you're developing athletic ability and fitness levels and they're really raw. And then I've had those young athletes that are, I've had these kids that are six foot three. So was that 191 centimeters? They weigh, they're 130 to 140 kilos as high school kids. And so I've had a couple of kids that are 22 meter throwers with the 5.45, right? So even to throw 22 meters, even with a 5.45, you gotta be doing a lot of things, right? And these kids are just, they just pick up things. So much easier. So it's a testament. Obviously you're not gonna be fifth at the Olympics and the best Olympics ever. If you're not an exceptionally talented athlete, right? That's gonna be, so that's interesting. So I like it. So, because you can, you know, so you'd agree right here, a little too far forward, correct? Yeah. So that being said, what other, is there anything else you would like to point out about your position versus like, do you think, you know, cause Walsh has, once you, you look at Walsh and Krauser, they're kind of about the same, Walsh has the sweep leg incredibly wide, right? So he really creates that extra speed as he transitions from here to here, right? That wide leg, really gonna whip you into position. And then very similar to Walsh, this is where I would say like the left arm, I always, we coach to take it out and you have that great reaction of this path, which I think really allows you to finish. I mean, that's a great finish. I have to just give everything and I kind of just come up off the ground, which I think definitely works in my favor because it makes, you know, my 190 centimeter height, maybe the equivalent of a 196 centimeter thrower that doesn't come up as high, you know? Right. Because my release height is probably the same. It'd be interesting to see what that release height actually was between me and Krauser if how significant the difference is because he's considerably taller than me. Right. But, you know, I do come up four, five centimeters, I think higher off the ground. And that's why I'm not even sure if that's a good or bad thing. I think it kind of helps because, you know, I'm getting everything through but if I were to think about it technically, you know, you kind of want your, you want to be on the ground while the ball's still in your hand. Right. But, yeah, I don't know, I just, I try to kind of just throw what feels good and it's difficult because you can get caught up in the sort of nifty gritty of things and it's difficult because there's so much in the rotational technique to have a look at and that's what I love and kind of hate about it but that's why I focus so much on the feeling because it's like, you know when something feels sweet and of course you can make adjustments, et cetera but at this point, it feels really good at Phoenician. I kind of, there's a lot more that I really want to focus on in the back of the circle that I think will help in this position. Yeah, that, no, that's, I would agree. It looks a lot of good stuff and yeah, I mean, I love how you're like, like I said, squared up block the hip through. I mean, that's a great position, clearly. Good enough. Good enough for a couple of personal bests, right? Exactly. At the time, you know, I know you went better after that. No, of course, but I think I'm still proud in that setting, you know, it still means so much.