 Hey everybody, tonight we're debating immigration and we are starting right now with Brittany's opening statement. Thanks so much for being with us, Brittany. The floor is all yours. Okay. All right. So I did write something up. I don't normally like to read things because I'm a little blind, but I'm gonna do it anyways. So before I get my opening, I just want to say I'm not normally on this side of the debate. In fact, this is my very first debate. So this will be a new one for me, hoping Xander Hall will be kind enough not to use those crafty little voodoo debate brochicks on me and have a good big discussion, which I think keep up. But for those who don't already know me, I was once the left-wing host of Politically Provoked over the past year that went from left-wing hosts to centrist hosts to now just hosts. Got into politics through Trump, hated him, thought he was the worst president to ever take office. I supported basically every left-wing policy you can think of, open borders was one of those things. I've gone through a lot of the same views as most lefties have, and one of those has been the white guilt that we see everywhere. So I thought getting straight white men out of power would be a good thing and white men have just been horrible for us. Then came the red pill and a guy named Little Timmy. Now, I'm hoping today Xander Hall might be able to unred pill me because I've been looking for somebody to do that, and as of yet, nobody has managed to get it done. So maybe you could be that guy. If you don't already know who Little Timmy is, he is a hypothetical character of what happens when white people become a minority. So basically he is now the only white kid in a class of blacks, Latinos, and all the other groups we have living here. And every single minority group seems to have some sort of grievance against white people. And why shouldn't they, given our history, everything we are being pumped with, slavery, Jim Crow, CRT, all the horrible things white people have done, and all the anti-white rhetoric that's going through. And it's basically mainstream now. So it's not going to be good for Little Timmy when he's the only white kid. And I don't think white people will be given the same protections as minority groups currently have. Because most of the sentiment you hear is, oh well, they have it coming. So if it's like that when we are still the majority, what's it going to be like when we are the minority? That kind of stuff really concerns me and no one has been able to address those concerns or ease some of those fears. So again, maybe Xander Hall will be able to change that as I'm open to hearing it. One thing we can say is white people becoming a minority is basically inevitable at this point. So for me, I want to slow down the process as much as possible and closing the borders is a good first step. Now personally, I don't care about a multiracial and multicultural society as I don't have any of my own issues with anyone else. And I have no hate in my heart for anyone. I wish it wasn't like this, but this is the reality and a multiracial society has not worked. Lefties love to paint this ideal world we wish we lived in, but that doesn't tend to align with reality. And when you point those things out, you are called a racist, a Nazi, or a bigot instead of just pointing out uncomfortable truths. Perhaps I never took any issue with this because I wasn't able to see the damage it was actually causing until someone pointed out in a way that made sense. Not to mention everything that happened with the summer riots, which was also a huge wake up call that made it clear to me I just don't like the direction things are heading. So as I started to think about it more and conversations I've had with other lefties, that kind of future became a pretty easy thing for me to see happening. Why we have so many white liberals pushing this narrative is beyond me. And I wish more lefties would wake up to how dangerous some of the rhetoric is and the kind of damage it is causing. But I used to be one of those lefties. So until someone can unread, kill me, those days are over, and it's time to close the borders. Senator Hall, you are up. Thank you, Rush, for that opening, Brittany. And I want to let you know, folks, it was your first time here at Modern Day Debate. We are a neutral platform hosting debates on science, religion and politics. We hope you feel welcome no matter what walk of life you are from. Thrilled to have you here. And don't forget to hit that subscribe button for many juicy debates coming up. For example, does Islam require the domination of, or I should say does liberalism require the domination of Islam nations between Destiny and Daniel Hikachu coming up at our in-person conference? This month it's going to be juicy and you don't want to miss it. So with that, we're going to jump into Xander's opening statement. Thanks so much for being with us. The floor is all yours. Yeah, I guess I don't really have much in the way of opening statements. When it comes to a situation like this, as Brittany said, the influx of obviously non-white people into this country and many other white countries is going to continue to happen just naturally. This is the way that humanity has acted for a long time. We're going to integrate. We're going to intermarry, intermingle and whatnot. It's just something that's going to inevitably happen. I think the main issue that I have with Brittany's entire argument is that the onus is on her to prove that this is a real problem that's actually happening. The reason why I struggle to create an opening statement, I guess, is because there's not much that I feel like I have to argue from the get-go, right? Immigration is good. It's good for the economy. Seems that exposure to people of different races and communities is good to prevent racism. Seems to help our society. You mentioned that multiracial societies haven't worked. I'm not sure if you're aware, but America is the most successful country on the planet and is quite multiracial. Yeah, that's really all there is to say. We can go back and forth if you want. I wrote down some of your points and I guess if you want to, we can go one by one. You got it. We'll jump right in an open conversation then. Did you want to address something in specific I said or do you want me to? Do you want to start with the little Timmy question? Sure. Yeah, so the funny thing about the little Timmy question or the little Timmy hypothetical is it's not even really a hypothetical. Stuff like that happens on both sides today. There are Black students who are made fun of in majority white schools or whatever and there are white students in majority Black schools that get made fun of for being white. I don't know why you use this hypothetical or this little Timmy question as an example of how racial animus in this country could just suddenly flip sides and we could see an anti-white society. It just doesn't really seem like we're heading down that road. That kind of thing happens now. This seems like if you want to prevent a problem like this, the solution is exposure. People who are exposed to people of other races more often tend to be less racist. What you're advocating for, a shutdown and immigration, a slowing down of the integration of different races and ethnicities into our society, is only going to result in more racially based tribalism. That's what I'm talking about. It's only going to result in more racially based tribalism. It's only going to result in more of that racial animosity. Things like Jim Crow and things like segregation only increased the amount of tension between the races. It didn't make things better. Do you think there is no anti-white hate that goes on? Of course there is. Matter of fact, I've been debating a lot of these people and funnily enough you mentioned that it was mostly white liberals pushing this issue on a lot on what this anti-white narrative may be. The one thing I do want to point out is that there are people that I call out that claim to be on the left who are absolutely anti-white and I think also anti-black. I think if you are racist towards white people, if you are against the idea of races integrating, then you are just as much a danger to the rights and the liberty of white people as you are to black people. An example of this is hoteps. Hoteps are radical black separatists who want to be anti-white and will work with neo-Nazis to achieve it. I think that type of behavior, that actual anti-white racism you see from that group is not coming from white liberals at all. They hate liberals. They hate BLM. These contemporary left-wing movements that are advocating for racial justice have little to no connection to actual substantial groups that push anti-white hate. Is there white guilt out there? Are there cringey people out there who behave in a certain way because they are absolutely, and I think on a case-by-case basis it's worth working against those people, but to just put up a shield and say, no, we got to stop immigration, we got to cut down on it, we got to stop this white replacement thing, which we can get into more in a minute because I don't even agree with the theory there. I don't know. It just seems like you're going about solving this potential problem in the exact wrong way. How is it the wrong way? I mean, again, because it's literally mainstream right now for you to be anti-white. It's okay. You see it everywhere. Can you give me an example of mainstream anti-whiteness? Wasn't that in the Coca-Cola meetings or something they were talking about? I would have to actually look this up, but I remember there was an article about how they were talking about anti-white stuff. I have a bunch of quotes actually that I could pull up too if you want to that are very mainstream. What did they say? I mean, you can criticize any individual case that, like, I'm fine with that. The problem is that you're broadening this to be a massive issue at the left. It is. Like the entire idea behind at least what I advocate for is a rising tide raises all ships. We're not trying to take white people out of power and replace them with black people in power. We're not trying to take white people out of the country and replace them. I'm sure you've got plenty of examples of people on the left being either enabling anti-white racism or even perpetuating it. Let me show you a few examples of how mainstream it is and how okay it is. So you had, let's see here, we got from the Don Lemon saying white men are a domestic terror threat. Anderson Cooper, whites becoming minority is an exciting transformation for our country. Van Jones, even the most liberal well-intentioned white person has a racist virus in his or her brain that can be activated at an instance. John Brennan, I'm increasingly embarrassed to be a white male these days. I mean, I can keep going on and on. You don't have to read me quotes. Well, I'm just telling you that it's this literally mainstream. This is literally mainstream to be anti-white and if it's that way when we are the majority, what is it going to be like when we're the minority? Don't you think that maybe the tendency for people to engage in rhetoric that maybe pokes fun at or is sometimes even hostile towards white people might be because our society has come to an understanding broadly that the amount of objective harm caused by jokes or comments of the expense of white people typically don't have that same outcome. I think that's why you see a lot less, hold on, hold on. I think that's why you see a lot less pushback against that kind of thing. Is it okay? No. I don't know the context or the quote that you just listed to me but if the context is as you said it was then I don't like any of those people and I don't like what they said and you can call those people out on their individual like what they've said but I don't think there's a trend in the left to be anti-white. I don't think it's nearly as big as you're making out to be and trust me, listen, Brittany I get called no lip white boy by hoteps and literal anti-white races every single day. Hoteps are a radical group typically call themselves black separatists they're in favor of a black ethno state and they're willing to work with neo-nazis and white supremacists to achieve it. They typically hate Jewish people and stuff like that. They're basically black Nazis. So basically these are people that are also looking out for their own self-interest and realize that being around people that are going to hate them is not really working out for them either. I mean I don't know if that's technically a horrible thing I think maybe it's just kind of self-preservation on their own parts I mean I don't know what hating the Jews and claiming that what's her name I'm trying to remember her name she was in the holocaust she was in the attic, she wrote the book Anne Frank they hate Anne Frank listen, all right they hate Anne Frank, they think she was a fake Jew and deserved to die in the holocaust and that has to do with self-preservation well yeah I don't know about all that but I have seen some of these black nationalists who kind of push for a lot of the same things that some of the white nationalists will push for where they want to separate and I don't know if that's such a bad thing why live with people that hate you do you think white people hate black people I think that there are a lot of problems that happen in this country due to a multiracial society that we can't address because there's so much infighting I was looking up actually for this debate I was looking up what the 10 happiest countries are, you want to know what they are can I give them to you, I'm going to give them to you anyways we've got to consider like Scandinavian countries I'm going to do it Sandra number one Switzerland number two Iceland number three Denmark, Norway, Canada, Finland Netherlands, Sweden, New Zealand, Australia do you sense a theme there most of them are social democracies with a lot of maybe they are like that because there are a lot of countries that are able to address a lot of those issues do you know the studies that show when you are scared you become more conservative, when you are liberal you're going to become people are afraid of the unknown and what you're advocating for is to make ground people more unknown to white people and vice versa what you're advocating for all the data and everything that we've collected to do with exposure to other races has shown that contact with people who aren't the same race as you just explicitly just massively decreases the likelihood of you being racist or holding racist ideas what you're advocating for right now will only make different races more afraid of other races because they're going to be more unknown earlier I get that at this point there's nothing we could really technically do about this I'm not somebody who's saying let's go round up all the people that are different races or whatever I'm realistic but I do think that we can kind of slow down the process of how fast this is happening because what's happening and I'm noticing it big time and again I know people don't believe me but I really was left wing, I was very left wing and I had all these policies I was for open borders, I didn't see any problems with this the riots that happened that kind of freaked me out and then hearing it in a way that really did resonate but what do you think is going to happen when you are bringing in all these different people and you are teaching them how bad white people are and all the bad things that white people are do you think that they're not going to end up hating white people? what are they teaching in school you think is making people hate white people? so I was actually so every time I talk about critical race theory I'm getting different definitions, I feel like maybe that's somewhat to do with the fact we live in a country where every state kind of teaches things differently so you don't really know exactly what each state is doing but I did look up what critical race theory and here's what it is so critical race theory is an intellectual movement and a framework of legal analysis according to which race is a culturally invented category used to oppress people of color and the law and legal institutions of the United States that are inherently racist in so far they function to create and maintain social, political and economic inequalities between white people and non-whites and then, hold on why is critical race theory important? critical race theory is important because it potentially provides a more realistic understanding of white racism in the US as not merely a set of negative attitudes for other racial groups but also a body of law and legal practices whose real world effect is the oppression of people of color especially African Americans these things being taught like I'm sorry but these things being taught in our schools showing how bad white people are and all these horrible things that white people are doing and all the issues they're not teaching this in schools the things that are getting taught in schools the things these Republican politicians are trying to clamp down on and ban in our schools are things like reading about ruby bridges okay that's legitimately what they're trying to ban they don't want slavery to be taught they don't want Jim Crow or segregation to be taught what you're advocating for what you're saying right now and I know you won't say it but it's what you mean you believe that teaching students the actual history of this country a history that unfortunately does involve white people doing a lot of really bad horrible racist shit I'm sorry but that's just the history of our country and that's the history of a lot of countries out there if teaching the truth results in having this outcome then we need to engage in different types of rhetoric to help combat whatever white guilt or anti-white sentiment that you may think is becoming a huge problem there is people out there that are like that and like I said argue against them individually but what you're arguing right now at least it seems to me is that teaching kids the reality of what this country has has been and what has happened is going to result in people becoming more anti-white and thus we need to either not teach that or just keep non-white people out of the country or find some way to slow down the influx of non-white people into the country because God knows what happens if they learn that white people did slavery they might go out there and this reminds me like I'm sorry and I don't mean to be like condescending or mean or anything but this reminds me I was in fourth grade and I was like I think I was nine years old it was 2008 Obama just got elected it was the day after the election you know Obama that morning had been announced like yep Obama's new president and we were on the playground fourth grade and there's this girl that I went to school with named Eden sitting on a bench on the playground crying and I walk up to her and I ask her why are you crying and she says she's scared that Obama is going to bring back slavery but for white people and it's going to force white people to become slaves as payback for like slavery and she just she was crying her eyes out she fully believed this and this is what this reminds me of that thought process is what this reminds me of do you believe that like the minority groups in this country are going to try to take revenge on white people wait I'm sorry can you say the last part again you said that a white person was worried that Obama when I was in fourth grade one of my classmates the day after Obama got elected I went to school and it was I think it was on a Wednesday whole setup I just told you the story one of my classmates she was white sitting on the bench at recess crying because she thought that as payback for slavery Obama was going to bring back slavery for white people and enslave white people and it just it seems like and I'm not saying what you're claiming is on the same level of ridiculousness as that though it's close but I think I feel like the gas is similar I feel like I've been seeing I mean I've been seeing this happen a lot more I see the anti-white hatred that keeps rising and the fact that again it's so mainstream and it's okay and we are still the majority so I think that when you take into account the fact we are going to become a minority and if you look at other countries where this is happening yes okay I know that like South Africa and Rhodesia and all this stuff is pointed to and they were technically white people were always the minority but black people did have a grievance against white people there and the second that they were able to take any kind of control they they did and like they it wasn't good for white people and think about the grievances that the black that black people here are going to have are far greater than you're going to have over in those countries they weren't slaves or anything do you think do you think the socio-political position of black people in this country is comparable to that of South Africa I think that that black people have a fucking grievance like okay when you talk about okay say you want to go for people who have been oppressed like you know you got the Holocaust Jews and stuff Jews have like actually come out of that and they are you know they've done very well for themselves so the grievances that they could possibly have are going to be not quite the same whereas black people never really had been able to get out of what has happened it's gone from generation to generation to generation and they have been stuck in this and so that's carried on for sure but one thing like I also think of with what do you think like child abuse and stuff was like back during the time of slavery do you think that it was okay for parents to you know like use a belt or to beat their child I mean that was kind of somewhat the norm wasn't it God knows my mom whipped out the belt if I so much as as talked back okay trust me I had plenty of beating as a child so I can confirm that still happens today and now it will work for me it's a bit more frowned upon like you can't be using you know a belt to like you can get arrested if you do something like that if you use an actual tool to discipline your child okay yeah sure wait I want to ask you a question I don't know if this is related to where we're going but I guess this is just like the fundamental question I have for you so right now in the world in America right now there are majority black schools where a few white kids go there and exactly the little timmy question happens to them and that type of behavior comes from at least so it seems sociologists seem to agree seems to come from the segregation of our society on an economic level black people in this country are typically relegated to poorer neighborhoods that are typically majority non-white and so when you have like one or two white kids that go that are zoned to a school in a black neighborhood then there's only going to be a couple of white kids and then like a bunch of black kids right and when you feel that different when you stick out that much you may be the target of bullying and that's the thing that happens now so with what I said before we know that exposure decreases people's racism basically when you're exposed to people of a different race you tend to be less racist wouldn't the solution or the policy you should be advocating for shouldn't it be one of restoration sorry revolution of our systems either fixing or completely tearing down and recreating of the systems in this country that result in that disparity and that economic segregation so that we have a more integrated society where like your neighbor across the street is Asian streets from Mexico the guy up the streets in Puerto Rico you're not yet next door neighbor is black don't you think that when neighborhoods are far more multicultural don't you think you're going to have less bullying no I think no I think there's going to be a lot more infighting and I think I see I because I think that that's just like human nature that you're going to have those kind of that you're going to be wanting self preservation you are going to have infighting and this is exactly what we're seeing in America in general we are unable to address this just isn't worn out in the data this isn't literally are you kidding me there's so many problems we cannot address because we are constantly infighting over stupid shit like the poor people have less racial tension and racism when they live together alright one sec just to be sure let me talk let me talk otherwise we'll have to break it into two minute segments yeah sander so yeah no we have as far as like black and white people poor people they probably have a lot economic in common a lot of economic issues in common and yet they are completely on the opposite ends a lot of white people in general are willing is there any policy actually that you would be willing to sacrifice economic gains to achieve a policy that would sacrifice economic gains to achieve yeah honestly like I said before the policies I advocate for are ones that are like a rising tide that raises all ships right like one of the biggest examples that I brought up just on stream recently is a way that black people are kept down and a policy that would help both black people and white people and people of every race is the current federal criminalization of marijuana means that states where dispensaries are allowed to exist and you can sell marijuana legally unfortunately as long as it's federally legal banks will not loan to people who need a loan to start a business which means that the marijuana industry marijuana being a drug that black people in this country have been disproportionately policed and arrested and incarcerated for despite not using it more than white people for a very long time you would think that like in these states where you have dispensaries and weed being legal that like the black community in these in these areas could possibly see some level of recovery because of that due to its federal criminalization you can't get loans you have to have the capital at your expenditure already to be able to start a dispensary and you can only operate in cash and there's just a lot of roadblocks in the way just federally legalizing weed and making it so that like anybody could go get a loan to start a dispensary like they could any other business is just that would literally help everybody and black people these are the types of policies that I advocate for none of the policies you're going to see me pushing for are going to be about taking white people out of power and putting black people in their place that's not what anybody anybody saying on the left is advocating for I wouldn't think that would be anything that you would advocate for of course but I'm just saying like I'm sure there are policies I don't know technically that was one of them but I know there are policies that people would be willing to sacrifice some economic gains to achieve a lot of people are willing to do that when it comes you know to immigration yeah I guess you can say that in the short-term immigration is an economic gain for the country but some people are also going to be pushing the fact that we don't want to become a minority in our own country when people tell you okay well why don't you just go move to one of these like white countries or whatever it's kind of I mean isn't that like exactly the point we're being run out of our own country Jesus can you hear the dryer is it loud the way yeah I can hear it a little bit but it's not I might turn it off because hold on a second maybe not alright sorry you said we are being run out of our own country nobody's being run out this is actually I think now's a good time to tackle this the idea of replacement now the term replacement necessarily has to be referring to generational on a generational level people of a different I guess demographic are being born at a faster rate than people of a certain demographic are dying out that's what replacement rate is I don't care about the replacement thing that's not my issue my issue is more about becoming a minority in the country in our country that's not even going to happen in your lifetime and if you want to prevent the problems that you think no we're not white people are not going to be a minority in our lifetimes like what in 2050 no I don't think that math lines up perfectly yeah something so there's a lot the birth rates of millennials in this country and of zoomers zoomers aren't exactly birthing age yet but if the birth rates of millennials continue with the same track for zoomers for generation Z then yes you can make that argument but right now at least when I've read about it the low millennial just broadly the low millennial birth rate has more to do with economic issues and just hold on one second I'm so sorry in the meantime want to let you know folks we are absolutely thrilled in less than 10 days or so modern day debates first ever in person conference debate con is going to be huge in fact zander himself is going to be there among many others for example at the bottom right of your screen you can see there destiny and infrared are going to debate biden on trial that's going to be a juicy one and so that 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want to become a minority people who might not want to experience any kind of racial revenge that could possibly emerge where do they go if that was to happen where are they supposed to go why don't we just not encourage racism let's not have racial revenge yeah let's not have racial revenge I would like that I would very much like that I don't think we're heading in the direction of a race war right now it just it doesn't seem like that's the way that we're going BLM is is like an example of this granted like general support for it has gone down since Biden got elected but like BLM had massive amounts of support among both black white Hispanic so on Americans like it seems like we're seeing a massive increase in multiracial cooperation to fight for rights it doesn't seem like we're having this like like do you think like that one it's like that one image where it's like MLK's ghost in the sky and the two white guys picking cotton and the black guy with the belt whipping them while they're picking the cotton like I just don't think that's the future we're heading towards I okay you haven't caught like obviously I've gone down these rabbit holes since this whole red pill I don't think you probably have seen a lot of some scary freaking shit some of it where you'll see groups of black people like scattered out telling them to go get every white person you see I've seen a lot of this anti-white stuff where they are just like literally beating people up for being white this stuff is kind of scary again we are still in the majority and this is happening like what the is going to happen when we are the minority okay something to ease my fears and I would love to not have these fucking fears like I would absolutely love it so please please tell me something if white people are meant to be a minority by 2050 I hope for one let's say that does happen okay what line of events do you think has to occur for us to reach the point that you're afraid of let's let's work through that it's already happening yes it is it's not you're being sheltered from it because it is happening I'm not sheltered from it at all Mike listen Brittany you do know that my most popular video in my entire channel is about how I was all right once you know I know all these talking points I've seen all the data I've heard all the arguments from the alt-right when it comes to like the danger of white people being replaced and becoming a minority I've heard all of these arguments I'm very very aware of the reasoning it just doesn't hold up to scrutiny it's just not a realistic outcome it's going to happen if you want to prevent this future engaging in tribalism is only going to make the problem worse what you're advocating for is the very same racial separation that will only cause the problem to get worse like you said humans are naturally afraid of the unknown we need to make people of other races not the unknown we don't want white people to be the unknown for black people or Hispanic people or whatever and we don't want it to be the other way around either that's only if you that future that you want is more likely with the policy that you're advocating for see that would be all fine and dandy and this is again what I talked about when lefties talk about this ideal world we wish we lived in that just doesn't actually exist but the fact we are constantly teaching so much of this anti-white stuff and all the bad things that white people I'm still talking I know you're about to do it don't do it all the bad things that white people have done it what do you think is going to do it's literally going to cause people to hate I mean white people hate white people that's how much this propaganda is freaking working I was one of those white people that hated white people so what the fuck I love white people I don't know excuse me I saw your Omega that guy was a Nazi screaming the n-word I was screaming I was screaming over him yelling the n-word okay you know but I guess you're you're doing the thing like you think that minorities want to take revenge on white people I do I think yeah I do I think that is something I'm not every single one obviously but I do think there is this anti-white hatred that's going on and I worry about what happens when white people do not have the kind of power that they are able to hold on to right now to stop it because they are not doing a great job even with them being the majority so Obama was black and he was president news to me so we had a black president why didn't we see any of that from him you know if we had a black president elected I mean we saw hate crimes from white nationalists and white supremacists go up under Trump you'd think under Obama you would see like anti-white hate crimes and like black separatist or sorry not black separatist but like anti-white hate crimes he thought you would think they'd go up hell even Biden being in office you'd think you'd be seeing left wing anti-white hate crimes go up right you know that Obama was like the first social media president right I mean you might be too young to know well I mean yeah I mean Twitter was like when did Twitter come out like 2006? 2008 is like kind of the when social media started to skyrocket in general I mean yeah there was stuff here and there but it was like my space you know wait before your time they'll check what's this have to do with? I'm saying that don't you think that social media also plays a huge role in some of the stuff that we are dealing with in some of the social media makes it easier for a president to radicalize their base that's how Trump stoked his fans into doing the capital riot with social media that that only helps my argument the idea that Donald Trump sorry that Obama or Biden could reach their left wing anti-white Do you think Obama used social media that Trump did come on? I mean he could have but he didn't because we don't because the left doesn't want to start a race for is why Obama didn't want to start a race for Obama was somebody who literally he wanted to he was one of those I think I even saw an interview where he was saying I wasn't you know he was worried about not being black enough for black people not being white enough for white people and he was in that like center where he was trying to please both sides and walk that walk that line and away in this country I feel like that is like the best line you can actually walk because I'm a big Obama fan sorry to people that that's probably gonna piss a lot of people on both sides off but I'm a big Obama fan he was a really good president I think he did a really good job but he was the first social media president and that there were a lot of problems that arise because of social media that we don't ever think about because somebody like you who literally grew up in the social media age that was your world but for a lot of other people we had to adjust to this entirely new world where information was coming at you so much faster hate groups are rising people were able to get into conspiracies a lot easier people who are going with like minded views and you're getting information before you can actually have any facts and there was a reactionary kind of environment going on and I think Obama took a lot of heat for some of the things that were actually caused by social media but I don't think that but I think that like for our country in general and if you look at the way our social media is going now we're not even able to like right wingers are literally purged off of every freaking platform you can have like every single one they're not allowed to have even a space online anymore didn't twitter come out and say that they specifically have to be more lenient when enforcing the rules of their TOS on conservatives because if they weren't then there'd be it was a few years or two years ago I think maybe a year ago they came out and they said they had to be more easy on conservative politicians and public figures when it came to like upholding their TOS because if they enacted their TOS basically would anybody else basically every conservative politician would be banned off of Twitter so they have to like kinda play it easy there they've admitted they had to do that they gave Trump so many cases and so many chances you should meet the new CEO I literally got banned off of Twitter for following somebody like on the right I'm not even kidding I didn't break any TOS somebody I was following had a Twitter space and everybody that was in that Twitter space got banned completely no warning no nothing just banned what was the Twitter space about it was well it was a it was a flintest Twitter space that he had and everybody in that but no what is who cares like why should the people that are just listening in a Twitter space are following somebody get banned what in what world is that okay I mean Twitter makes the rules I guess don't get me wrong these platforms practically are not very good at upholding their TOS and you probably see me complain about that plenty on Twitter but I mean I don't Nick Fuentes is a is a public figure who's a neo-Nazi and is banned off of Twitter it's not exactly surprising that people hanging out in like a fan club group do you disagree with that do you think Nick Fuentes isn't a Nazi no I don't think he's a Nazi I don't think he's a Nazi I think he has maybe some controversial views but I don't think he's a Nazi and I think like we throw that term around quite loosely but I don't even think that Nazis are even actually a real thing anymore so but yeah no I just think that the way we're not even able to live in the same internet spaces where you're not even going to have any kind of like human contact with somebody you're not going to be able I mean it would be literally the safest place to be somewhere and we can't even be in the same internet spaces so yeah we're supposed to be able to be in the same country I don't know what percentage of the left do you think is anti-white I don't know I don't know but I'm sure there's quite a bit I think it's not I don't know if they even recognize that they are anti-white I think that they have like this anti-white guilt I literally had it myself and I took I went through like the worst cognitive dissonance going through this whole red pill process so I know what it feels like where I was going through this and I felt like some of the thoughts I was having were fucking with me a bit and I didn't want to have those thoughts because I know that this is where my black pill came in too because there was a lot of problems I was recognizing that there were no solutions to and that freaked me out as well and yeah so I've been a little bit more red to black pills if anything but I think that the fact the propaganda is so strong that so many white people are so anti-white is not a good sign I hate to say it but I think you've you've red-pilled yourself into supporting anti-whiteness wait what I know it sounds strange but like the groups you've said that you agree with here are explicitly like for example the HOTEP say a group of people that you said are just looking out you said they were black separatists black nationalists etc they're part of that umbrella those are the groups that I see who at least claim to be on the left that are that put out the most virulent anti-white like anti-white racism and anti-white hatred and they're allying with the types like America first Nick Flentes the proud boys all of that and they're very anti-white the only reason these groups are coming together is because they both want segregation and your virtue signaling support for this type of initiative and it's ironic because these are the types of people where I'm seeing all that like every bit of anti-white rhetoric I see from the left are people enabling and supporting these like black separatists black nationalists or HOTEP types and your signaling support for those people who are the types I've heard the most anti-white racism from on the left but I also would rather them be honest about it if anything and you know like no okay we don't want they don't not we sorry excuse me but they don't want to live amongst white people and for white people they shouldn't have to live amongst people that they don't like either if I feel like that choice should be allowed in this country and it doesn't seem like it is it's we are had this like forced integration that's happening and why what again if we're having all this propaganda that's being pushed what results do you think that's going to cause if that's the case you're pushing people to be around people that they don't like or that they are been not like and telling them okay now you have to be in a company with them you have to be in a school with them you have to be in these community with them and deal with it what do you think that's going to do we got to see the we got to see if like anti-white hate crimes go up I guess it seems like the country is just getting more and more progressive as it gets because you're being sheltered oh my I'm not sheltered I live in Palm Springs it's like it's like a an hour drive from the border to Mexico you know like you'd think that there'd be like I've gone to LA and shit I've seen a good amount of stuff like I don't know why the you're sheltered thing is an argument for me I've used data to back up what I've said that the data from sociologists criminologists everything seems to demonstrate that exposure reduces the amount of racial animosity and racism in someone that somebody has right and you're using well I I have common sense you're sheltered that's my argument I understand where the disconnect is well I think that what I mean by being sheltered is a lot of the people in these communities are I would say terminally online I'm probably one of those as well but you when you have like I said earlier that all these right wingers are being pushed off of the internet completely it's a lot easier for left wingers to get their messages out than it is for right wingers like left wingers can kind of push whatever message they want on any platform they want whenever they want wherever they want right wingers are not able to do that they are kicked off of everything so they are not able to counter any of this stuff they can't even talk about half of these things because I got some false striked by YouTube twice in a row because I talked about vaccines and anyone anyone who talks about COVID or anything that's a controversial topic at all might get the strike on you because it's an out it's an algorithm all these platforms care about is maximizing their revenue and small creators that have no accountability talking about these topics is a threat for YouTube's bottom line they aren't pushing an ideology YouTube doesn't want to push an anti-white you'd think YouTube would be banning every conservative right wing creator on their platform and Twitch would be doing the same if that was their goal they're not pushing for some anti-white anti-American anti whatever narrative okay like I'm actually curious this is a question that I have what about whiteness is it a question you have or your chat has I have it what about whiteness to you is worth preserving why do you want to preserve whiteness see this is not like my question because I don't really it's not about it for me like I'm not somebody who is like oh I'm trying to like save the white race or anything like that I really I honestly do not care if that's not what this is for me like I have very different goals than a lot of the white nationalists have so they might that might be their goal for me I just do not want to become a minority in this country I do worry about a racial revenge I don't like the anti-white hate I think that for me being white is more of a visual thing like if somebody was going after somebody I'm still talking if somebody was going after somebody for being white they're not going to sit there and ask them like you know they're 23 and me or how white are you or this or that they're going to see somebody who is you know blonde blue-eyed and they are going to be not happy if they are anti-white so that's my my issue I don't again a white nationalist have a very different reasoning might have similar goals but different completely different reasoning for it and again I don't have any hate for anybody I really really really wish it wasn't like this I hate that it's like this but there are so many uncomfortable truths that I have had to like face that I didn't like it but they are the reality and it sucks that it's the reality but it is the reality and what really annoys me is the fact that you can't talk about this because then you are like lambasted this is horrible horrible person just by pointing out uncomfortable truths why is that okay I don't think you're calling out that when you say things like I'm just pointing out uncomfortable truths that comes off as a dog whistle that's something that like right wingers for a long time will have used as a as a defense against any criticism is I'm just asking questions I'm just telling the the brutal honest truth I'm just telling it how it is the uncomfortable truth like it just it just comes off as a little sassy to me but I guess I'm sorry my chat said something funny stop looking at your chat see I don't have a chat that I can be able to look at so you can't look at it they're just spamming emotes and jokes okay they're not going to be back and be up or anything I got a spy in there seeing if you're going to be stealing notes they're just spamming the emo of Hank Schrader from Breaking Bad doing the sus face that's what they're doing right now I guess so you believe that there is an overwhelming or at least a growing animosity towards white people in our society you believe that immigration is going to result in more non-white people coming to this country learning I guess how bad white people are and then they're going to want to do a race war I think with how much we are talking and how much we are pushing so much of the anti-white hatred that yes that when the time comes white people are the minority and with how much I mean we are like we are trying to right a lot of the wrongs that happened in the past and like it seems like almost white people are going to be having to get punished for the sins of the past they're getting like they really are being punished for the sins of the past whereas black people they might be able to get away with a little bit more like you they're filming something they might do something Leo but if they do something they provoke a cop and something happens then they're able to get out of it because it's all about public opinion and they're pushing a lot of this stuff and I think MLK was somebody who was also talking about that how they would try to provoke incidents that would happen don't you dare would provoke things to show people how bad some of the police were and to get a reaction from the public it's all about public opinion and with social media it makes it a lot easier for them to do but I think for white people there's no sympathy for any white person for anything they get no wiggle room for anything one little screw up and like the mob is coming for them and I don't know I think that's just little things like that that keep building up and happening should worry you do you ever plan on having kids probably not I think I'll probably adopt a kid when I'm at a certain point where I've got like the financial means and everything I'll probably adopt a kid that already needs a home I think that like there's a lot of kids out there in the foster system who are ending up in really shitty situations a really close friend of mine was in one of those situations and she was sexually assaulted by one of her foster parents and I just hope that if I have the money for it one day if I'm going to have kids I can just provide a good home and upbringing in a financial stable living situation for a child who already needs a place to be you know I guess that's my goal but I have a question I got an answer when you say white people will be a minority in this country what do you mean by that what does minority mean okay I know that if you were to they're technically they'd still not be a minority because you have a lot of different other groups but I feel like with how much people all have a grievance against white people that there is like it wouldn't matter if the okay you have a certain amount of Mexicans or black people or this or that it's like they all have a grievance against white people everybody is like everybody hates whitey and so I think that that is when white people are going to be the minority when you combine the rest of them so when we use minority to refer to like black people or Hispanic people or any non-white racial group or ethnic group in this country we're not the word minority isn't referring to them the number being low so you're arguing that white people will become a minority in the same sense that non-white people in this country are not out of number but in power and wealth a little bit of both but yeah like I think that it's just not going to be good for white people in general like so you think do you think your life is going to be affected by this I'm curious if this happens do I think my life is going to be affected by this mine personally I don't know if mine personally is I worry about my sons I worry about my sons life well I think your son will probably be okay I don't I don't think the race war is coming I'm going to be honest if there's going to be any type of race war or massive violent racially motivated outbreak it's way more likely going to be white right-wingers going against like a multiracial protest of black, Hispanic and white people it's likely that seems like it's way following the capital right Christchurch shooting we can even look at the terrorism rate the politically motivated rates for terror across the world and in this country it's overwhelmingly right-wing virtually no sure I think actually I might bring this up for when she gets back it might be worth referencing we'll come right back to it Xander I've got to let you know folks Xander is one of the people who will be at this conference coming up it is going to be juicy and that is linked in the description as that's in Dallas, Texas January 15th and 16th we'll jump back into it yeah no it just like every bit of date I mean I could DM you on discord if you want to see some of it but it looks like left-wing political violence has been it didn't really exist much on any serious scale to begin with in this country but just it's it's gone down the tiny bit that existed has gone down over the decades while right-wing violence has been on an upward trend it just doesn't seem like if we look at the current trends the direction this country is heading in it seems like those that are advocating for more progressive policy and more equality are the same that are trying to fight against the concept of racism I mean even listed when you talked about a critical race theory the main idea behind it is that in reality the conceptions we have of race are totally bunk they were invented in order to help support racism the idea that the people you're claiming are anti-whites are pushing is to abolish the idea of race there's not supposed to be a concept of white and black and Hispanic etc do you believe that these people are not in favor of racial abolition are you saying wait hold on a second the idea purported by most of the types that support critical race theory actual critical race theory not when Republicans claim that teaching about Martin Luther King is critical race theory in schools actual critical race theory most that purport it are racial abolitionists they believe the social constructive race is one that only results in more racial animus between us and they want to abolish it you're saying that they're not saying white people are doing that plenty of white people support like white lefties but even okay say that you're right about white people are gonna be the ones that are gonna go do all these horrible things and blah blah it's still an argument against being a multiracial society because it's still an argument that there is a lot of tensions that are going to happen shouldn't we want to protect all these groups as well from each other in general I think you've been what have I been I genuinely I don't think you're a Nazi I imagine my chat I think my chat's gonna get really mad when I say this I don't think you're a Nazi I think you are extremely into the white moderate pill I think is what you is what's happened I don't I don't want to gish Gallup for too much but I'd like to read a quote from MLK's letter from Birmingham jail because I think this quote perfectly applies to what you're saying here let me take a nice drink of water first hmm hmm hmm perfect H2O alright this is from Martin Luther King's letter from Birmingham jail I must make two honest confessions to you my Christian and Jewish brothers first I must confess that over the past few years I've become gravely disappointed with the white moderate I've almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's greatest stumbling block is his stride in his stride towards freedom is not the white citizens counselor the Ku Klux Klaner but the white moderate who is more devoted to order than to justice who prefers a negative piece which is the absence of tension to a positive piece which is the presence of justice who constantly says I agree with you in the goal you seek but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom who lives by a mythical concept of time who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a more convenient season shallow understanding from people of goodwill is much more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection that there's more to the quote and I think as it goes on it applies even more familiar I think I feel like you white moderate killed yourself like the people who are on the more radically progressive side that are advocating for just a broader dissolution of the entire system that has informed our current conceptions of race you're claiming those are the people that want to start a race war it's the same kind of narrative from the types that push back against MLK during the civil rights movement it's the same type of white moderate hesitancy can you tell me some benefits of having a multiracial society I don't think the onus on me to say there are benefits I think this is on you to tell you though I think it's going to happen regardless I'm just not against it I haven't had heard any arguments against it it's natural I don't like know what like you're the one making the argument that the onus is on you I feel like I have made a lot of arguments on why it's bad I I wouldn't agree but I guess I could list some things culture food stories getting to meet new people new friends I've got plenty of friends that are not white that I'd hate to have never met many of them here I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I met most of them on the internet but okay I guess I guess we can go because I have like a list of things we went through and I guess we'll go to the last thing Nick I don't want to linger on this too much because we're talking about another person and I don't like debating about other people but you said that you don't think he's a Nazi sure I do think he's a Nazi why do you say that I don't think that Nazis are even a thing anymore really yeah I mean he might be like he's like what is he like a paleo con or well he's a white supremacist um to find white supremacist he believes that black people are inherently inferior to white people um he also thinks that the age of consent is a feminist construct okay I ought to be abolished I mean I could talk to mr girl about that one all right okay um I mean do you do you believe the holocaust happened and that's six million Jews okay all right all right just checking in um well I mean do you got any memes for me do I have any memes for you like any questions any any talking points any some things down hold on let me see if I have gone through some of them um okay I'm kind of glad we didn't really get into the economic factor because I don't think it really actually matters that much for what I'm pushing I mean there are economic issues that I do have as well it's not just this this wasn't like the sole reason I am against immigration um but one thing that actually somebody mentioned to me recently was you know with the birth rates and stuff uh and I didn't even it didn't even click to me because I I do believe that global warming and climate change I believe all that stuff but I do like realize that there have been a lot of those advocates who are pushing to not have kids because of overpopulation that kind of shit worries me a little bit as well like why are they pushing to not have children when we have such low birth rates um I'm actually asking if you if you want to look at a place that's having issues with lower birth rates I mean America is certainly not one of them we have a fairly decent placement doesn't have low birth rates America does not seem to have a problem at the moment absolutely do well right now millennials aren't having kids because of the of the current economy and the and the difficulty for them to build wealth and get a place but like outside of that it seems like our replacement rate just broadly in this country is not nearly as bad as it could be if you want to look at a country a matter of fact this actually supports my point uh japan very very very racist country very very racist yeah absolutely yes japan is a very very racist they side with hitler in world war two it's a very racist country um they they they are not a big fan of black people let's bring them on over yeah um yeah very xenophobic country and uh because of this they they take in like no immigration they've got very tight immigration their birth rates are some are just their birth rates are so low i think more people are committing suicide like i think their suicide rates are like starting to catch up with the birth rates in japan right now or something like that um very very very bad shit that's not the future i want to see for america ironically enough that's an example of a country that's doing exactly what you're advocating for and they're not exactly having the best time it is a they're not doing well there but i'm not familiar with japan and i highly recommend looking into it i will i will absolutely want to send me something too i'll look at i'll look at that no problem like i said i'm open to being unredpilled i would love to be unredpilled this has been nothing but like it's not been good for me i mean i've gotten a lot of shit because of all these views i didn't want to have these views but the red pill is just acknowledging issues that exist blaming it on the wrong groups and then advocating for the wrong solutions that's all the red pill is it cut out it cut out that first part say that again but all the red pill is is acknowledging the same issues blaming it on the wrong groups then purporting the wrong possible solutions that's that's a bit more or less my experience the red pill alright and i and i was like i was right wing okay i was i was i believe some shit okay um that is what the red pill was to me i what made you get blue pill then hearing that the arguments uh these right wingers were making weren't true whenever someone made a lot of arguments that i've heard on the right will point out actual issues in our society the arguments that convinced me when i was younger were real issues in our society whether it be the anti-feminist content that pointed out that like men have disproportionately higher suicide rates than women or content that made claims like black people commit more crime than white people for unsocio not socio economically related reasons um when i heard arguments like this there was no counter out there for me to find so when i stumbled across content that uh was actually able to present data that debunked those currently held positions i got pulled out of it and now my job is to research all these topics so that i can debate people on it and just sort of strengthen my positions from there was there one particular issue that like got you into the all right and then one particular issue that maybe got you out of it um ironically enough pretty similar to what you're saying i did actually feel like white men mostly were under attack in this country and it just seems like as i've gotten older just hasn't been born out in reality i'm doing just fine seems like white men in this country are doing just fine and uh it was just sort of a misguided perspective if you want to make the argument that people are being oppressed in this country and that white people are facing issues if anything it's capitalism causing those problems not some cabal of people pushing anti-whiteness or i don't know okay okay um yeah i don't know um i don't know if you guys want to go in to the q&a we can um we're good to go let's jump into it want to let you know folks both of our guests are linked in the description so if you want to hear more you certainly can and that includes if you're listening via the podcast as we put our guest links in the description box for the podcast as well well let's jump right into it first question probably certain says jim crow and slavery is not crt i'm not sure it seems more like a statement than a question right we do read question or uh statements as well i'm just not exactly sure what who it's in for next up keith x says britney why does being a minority scare you because of how you're treated you're perpetuating a form of separation why not focus on treating minorities better then you wouldn't have to worry which side you're on no i think i think that we should do both i think we should treat people a lot better as well but i do think it's no secret that minorities no matter what you are is they're not treated well they're going to be treated like second-class citizens but the difference here is the history the minorities have a history where they've been like really fucked over and um it's not good so a lot of people are trying to right the wrongs but when white people become the minority there's not going to be that same sympathy for white people that there is for other minorities who have suffered so i think it's going to be more like okay you kind of have this coming you deserve it fuck you whereas we are not doing that to minorities now so i do worry about it i worry about like paying for sins of the past whatever those might be um and i think that a lot of people shouldn't i think the people that are pushing some of this anti-white stuff and especially if they are white are not realizing that this is going to backfire they're not going to know if you're the good white person or the bad white person if it's purely a racial issue if somebody they're coming for white people they're not going to stop and say hey are you a lefty white person or are you a fucking nazi right person they're going to be going for your skin color sam here's this bulldog says i know it's off topic but i would die for an archeological evidences for the book of Mormon debate on this channel please make it happen james thanks for that if i'll keep that in mind long nights youtube and says amazing how much quote-unquote certain white people are afraid of the people of this country actually learning about the history of this country it's whitewashed i think that's for you britney okay will i say it again sorry they said amazing how much certain white people are afraid of the people of this country while actually learning about the history of this country it's whitewashed certain white people are afraid of the people of this country and it's whitewashed i think they're saying there's a contrast where especially they're saying if you read the history of the united states it's especially surprising to put it charitably they're saying it's surprising that some white people are afraid of themselves getting attacked yeah i don't know why it's surprising though well i think they're trying to imply that the history of the us has in actuality been the reverse namely they're trying to suggest that the history would suggest that it's minorities if anybody that should be afraid of it well i'm worried about us becoming a minority this one from mr. monster says anti-white hate is an illusion i don't think that actually i actually disagree with that i think there is an ironic anti-white hate but i think it's coming from the black separatist types that claim to be on the left but are literally allying with types like the proud boys i think that at the end of the day any racial segregationist policy is only going to result in hurting both groups that are affected by it i don't think that racial segregation helps society at all amazing this one coming in from sun flower says x aka zander adult liberals have the exact same reaction as the sobbing fourth grader when trump got elected colleges implemented new programs that aid the trauma i i don't know what that is referring to i became a right winger when trump got elected the trump getting elected led to me moving more to the right so i don't know what that's for i think what they were trying to say is i think it went back to when you had mentioned the fourth grade girl who was afraid that when obama became president that there was going to be like persecution and that obama would be hitler or something they're saying they're saying that people were saying this is hitler and that there were new programs to aid the trauma at colleges well he got me i guess or they got me that is true i imagine probably happened this one from elusive viper says the second largest and largest growing demographic isn't blacks it's latinos why all of this focus on what will still be the third largest racial group well for me it's not technically about blacks or anything like that it's just again the anti-white stuff that we are pushing on people like i said earlier even white people are hating white people everybody has a grievance against white people so us just becoming a minority really worries me so it's not about i know that and going to be the majority anytime soon like that's kind of obvious but the fact that we would become the minorities more my concern this one coming in from chess 119 says debate title let's see oh not really that rishad abdul salam says zander if your pro integration then do you disagree with blacks who want majority black neighborhoods with black schools black banks and stores et cetera if not why can't whites openly desire the same i don't believe in that i don't believe in black only neighborhoods and black majority schools and all that no i'm not in favor of that i don't think white people should be in favor of it either i think that full on integration is the way that we defeat racism it seems like it's born out in the data and um that's what i'm following chris gammon says britney if you convince everyone to treat racial minorities the way you want to be treated then as a minority you would be treated well do you disagree and why i wish it was like that i really really do wish it was like that it would be it would make everything a lot easier but again this is one of those like fantasy worlds where okay um we want something to be a certain way but i think that the damage is kind of almost already done no matter if we all changed our tune if we all did all this crazy like amazing stuff um i don't think it would matter i think we would still deal with some of this racial revenge that's going to happen and i really do think it's going to happen you got it mr white male says anti white stats don't go up because they don't get classified as hate crimes i think they're saying they don't go up especially during i think this came in when people uh when they talked about when trump got into office yeah that's just not true if you if you throw a rock at someone's head and scream fuck you whitey um i'm pretty sure that's a hate crime maybe i'm wrong maybe white crimes against white people for their race aren't considered hate crimes in this country i doubt it though this one from a snake was right it said america is the greatest country on earth and the most multi-ethnic anyone can live together it's wokesters who can't mix with american culture oh well they were right in the first half america is the greatest multi-ethnic country ever yeah absolutely um i don't think the wokesters uh that's a that's a new one are you a wokester zander i think this person thinks i am and they invented the term as far as i can tell so i guess so if they invented it um i i don't i don't seem to agree i think i do a pretty good good job of integrating into society juicy this one coming in from forward tribe says what do you think of the dalai lama and what about when he says europe should be for europeans who's that for probably for me uh i don't know enough about the dalai lama to uh to confirm or deny whether or not that's an actual quote but uh who cares juicy this one coming in from quani upstate says if she isn't native american does she think her ancestors shouldn't have come here will she leave the us if her ancestors came here okay this is fun um so yeah i get this whole native american thing and um yeah sure if everybody wants to leave it's not native american let's do that it's called find a different country and we can go find our own white country we can go find our own black country we can all find our own Mexican country we can all do that let's go do that we'll just all have our own countries would you go move to the white country if there was like an all-white sort of like ethno-state started up i'm not sure that they would take me quani upstate strikes again says the us is and always has been a melting pot so more babies who grow up american is a good thing true that's why we need to go to war with and nx canada we need to take all of the uk we need america needs to conquer every every single country the entire world and everybody needs to become american okay we're going to rename earth to america i do actually think um that the entire world should just speak english i would be totally down for that so um it'd be convenient but uh i think actually ironically enough a lot of the world right now speaks english and a lot of countries like uh in europe especially even if they aren't like english speaking countries um typically like english is taught as a second class i think the same is done in like japan and a lot of countries in asia and whatnot um central europe i i think like english is like a required language to learn for a lot of those countries this one coming in from chris damond says for britney what precise skin tones do you advocate for being barred from entering the country i mean come on it's not about like again i don't have any hate for anybody i like really really wish it wasn't like this i don't like that it's like this i would be happy in a multi cultural month multi racial society if it worked it just doesn't so i it's not like i'm wanting it to be this way i really don't so i i i can't i just want to close the borders that's this one coming in from nugget man says i did they they say not none white debating white replacement what the i'm confused by that nugget man you got a clear of pivot cyroy says not sure if it was asked already but britney why don't you want to be a minority in your country are they treated badly or something yeah of course minorities are always treated badly well nobody should want to become a minority we aren't you even you brought up the south actually sorry i don't want to derail from the question the q&a too much but i'll make it quick ironically enough despite the violence that has happened in the country side south africa despite being a proportionally number wise a minority group in that country white people still currently hold the vast majority of wealth and power in south africa yes i don't know about how what kind of wealth they hold and stuff but i do know that they were able to hold on to a lot of power because they were suppressing media they were doing a lot of stuff where they were not able to kind of get any access and that was kind of holding it under control once it happened it did not do well for white people they were taking their land they were taking their they were a lot of killings going on there's all kinds of crazy shit that was happening there was a lot of revenge and i don't want that to happen here well south africa went from an apartheid state to not in through like a revolutionary action like a couple decades ago obviously like there there was violence compared we fought a war overending slavery and that's more or less the the equivalent that was happening there were slaves though not slaves but there was a highly highly racist society in which black people were considered lesser than than white people it's somewhat comparable to a modern day civil war you could make the argument the closest comparison i think we have at the moment i think the i think the comparison when it comes to white people still being a minority they're numbers wise and yet still holding power is a good one because you're making the argument that as white people become a minority numbers wise they'll become a minority power and wealth wise and it doesn't seem like that's born out in reality even when black people in the country who have recently been living under an apartheid state and had a violent revolution to to get out of it even then white people in that country still hold the vast majority of wealth and power i don't know i won't i'm not entirely sure if that's true or not but i do know that it just wasn't a good scenario when that happened and it happened twice i guess in history and it was not good and i just don't want to see that happening here yeah i just i don't think that modern day black people are going to react in even close to the same way as as like in america i should say then the black people in south africa that lived in an apartheid state and did a violent revolution i just doesn't seem like that same thing's gonna happen here i think it might be worse here okay this one coming in from mr. monster says great point thank you i don't know what that was referring to but tyrone ross i mean they say this is tyrone ross saying britney gives a home to hundreds of hateful people but since it's against other races britney doesn't care how disgusting will give you a chance to defend yourself as well as these alleged hateful people britney who was who was that from tyrone ross tyrone ross and repeat it again he said britney gives a home to hundreds of hateful people but since it's against other races britney doesn't care how disgusting i give a home to pretty much anyone that wants it our channel yeah it has become very right wing not a lot of places are platforming right wingers so they are going to obviously migrate to somewhere where they are being platform it wasn't my intention to have a far right channel it just happened because we were allowing them to speak and we have a free speech absolutist kind of attitude over on our channel but it's not like i'm trying to push anybody else out or not have certain voices i would have black nationalists on as well i would have anybody that wants to have debates on our channel so it's not it that's not what i'm trying to do you gotta this one coming in from ltd 9392 says if you oppose native americans being replaced by whites but you're okay with whites being replaced you're a hypocrite you must be consistent with your outrage and recognize that all population replacement is wrong i don't agree i don't agree that any population replacement is wrong as long as there's not active violence and policy meant to displace people from their homes and commit violence on them as being enacted i don't think that when people say like replacement it always feels like or white people becoming minority minority they talk about it like there's going to be an actual i mean britney believes this there's going to be like an actual race war and there's going to be like marching groups of minorities going down the street knocking on doors looking for white people you know it just doesn't seem like that's going to happen this one coming in from rishad abdul salam says zander if pro integration shouldn't the government institute 1950s style forced integration via national guard when any race reaches over 50 percent somewhere why not why would i want the government to enact a home military initiative in order to redistribute the population why would i why would i advocate for that i don't want the cops to come like i don't want the national guard whatever to come to my door and be like or the coast guard or something be like hey you're a white person and you're in this neighborhood that we've designated to be a black neighborhood not in favor you're going to have to move i don't want that to happen this one coming in from black sultan says is britney aware of the fact that white people are the minority of the globe or the planet and they still rule the modern world um yeah we are the minority of the globe um yeah that freaking freaks me out a little bit too i don't want to go into any of that other stuff though because i'm still i'm just going to say that i'm aware this one coming in from memo lee says there is quote anti black and quote anti hispanics and quote anti muslims etc narrative that's been pushed on a daily basis why whites feel so attacked when it happens to them sorry can you repeat that was that to me yeah there i think they're saying so there is this anti black and i anti white and anti or i'm sorry anti hispanic and anti muslim narrative that's been pushed on a daily basis then they're saying why do whites feel so attacked when it happens to them i'm afraid oh yeah i don't know i mean i think anybody should feel attacked when they are being attacked and it's just kind of the way it's going to go this one coming in from sunflower says zander the evergreen college fiasco is a real world example of britney's concerns do you expect more or less of this type of thing as diversity increases so evergreen college reminder folks that's where brett Weinstein basically well i'll let you tell it zander if you remember it better than i do i don't remember much about that situation but i think situations like like that are probably going to decrease as society gets more and more progressive and more and more multicultural and there's like more non-white people generally it just seems like as like i said before the data is worn out exposure tends to result in less racism less violence based on race and i think as as our society gets more multi ethnic multi racial multi cultural multi whatever i think that's going to start to slow down and we're getting more progressive and anti-racist as this happens too so yeah you got it and in particular i think that was the story of the i think it was when the students do i remember right that they wanted white people to take the day off they didn't want them to come to campus something like that yeah but some like white sit out or something i don't know this one coming in from nugget man says i meant maybe you should actually have a white person advocating for white people well jewish he's mad about that yeah i don't know about that one it's to me it's to me i think it's to both of us uh yeah i'm italian and i guess to many people it doesn't count when it comes to these types of people what is and isn't white is uh literally will never be agreed upon um so there's also just there's that as well like no none of these non-nazi types agree on who is and who isn't white that's why it's more like a visual thing to me in general like that's why i said earlier you know if there's some kind of racial revenge they're not gonna sit there and ask for your 23 and me they're gonna see a blonde hair blue-eyed girl and um i'm gonna be white to them and that's what i worry about so we might have i might have different um reasonings than the white nationalist might have but similar goals this one coming in from andrew go ahead zander i don't want to cut you off uh sorry well i'm 22 now in 2020 or yeah i'm 22 in 2022 how fitting is that uh nobody in my family's lived past 60 in several generations so hopefully when the when the anti-white hate mobs come rolling down the street i'll probably have kicked the bucket from vaping by then no it'll be here before that coming in from do appreciate it andrew says i have a novel idea treating people like people and pivot syroy says follow up to my last question if minorities are treated badly why not treat them better so there is no reason for hate and retaliation so i think they're saying why not treat minorities better now and that way when minorities do become the numerical majority then there won't be this alleged incoming vengeance they say treat treat the source not the symptoms right i agree i agree we should do both um we should be treating minorities a lot better and i'm all for that i don't think we should be treating anybody bad i want everybody to be treated well but i still don't think that's going to solve the um the problem i think that's still like the damage is done and it's going to happen regardless of how we treat anybody at this point you got it so if it's going to happen if you think that the so do you believe that this race war is happening no matter what i think that there will be a racial revenge at some point i do okay so you think it's certain um yeah okay this one coming in from do appreciate your question nation of no one says no question just wanted to support thanks for your support nation of no one and marv the martian says racial segregation only breeds more racism creating an us versus them mentality resulting in power and wealth segregation is this britney's utopia i'm sorry you're gonna have to say that one more time no problem they say racial segregation only breeds more racism creating an us versus them mentality and resulting in power and wealth segregation as well is this britney's utopia not sure how it would create more problems if we were segregated not sure how what they i don't think that would create more problems i mean i could see like even before i was like redpilled i was kind of more for a segregation in a way like it was more like left versus right like you don't have the lefties in one place and the righties in one place and maybe do like a european union kind of thing where each state it's its own country and maybe the federal government's just for like military but um as i've been getting a little bit more redpilled i don't even know if that would work completely so yeah you got it and this one coming in from research urr says south africa did not have a violent revolution zander hall please learn about history before saying blatantly false things about it sure there wasn't like a traditional revolution but there was a pretty violent push for the liberation of black people in that country i know a good amount about apartheid in south africa this one coming in from anarchy last name says britney you have never been a leftist at the beginning of this debate you talked about how you wanted to go straight to wanted to get straight white men out of power which means you have always been essentializing based off of race um no i think that's a lot of pretty big left-wing position actually and i think that was a lot of propaganda that was pushed and that was the white guilt that happened so i don't think that's true at all i definitely definitely was a lefty um and a lot of people that know me throughout this whole thing would be able to tell you that i was definitely lefty if you go through all my old stuff you would see i was definitely far well i mean maybe twitch sphere wasn't but i did i voted for burning in 16 um i voted for buddha judge and um yeah in the primary in 20 but uh yeah i was definitely lefty um when i started to talk about some of these views i was having i wasn't i was kind of just like expressing them because they were freaking me out a little bit and i was hoping maybe somebody can kind of talk me off the ledge and instead i got attacked i was like ostracized i was people started freaking out on me and all that did was kind of push me further into the arms of right wingers sorry i think i i think that um and i don't want to take any like low blows or anything here towards your community but i think there's a tendency among um and and i think that there there are people who've done this well and there are people who've done it poorly um when it comes to a platform it's all about you know giving somebody a voice allowing people to debate their ideas very free speech absolutist and um when you are tolerant to those that are intolerant this is the paradox tolerance um you're going to result in having a community that's in a very particular lean right when you allow like uh neo-nazis and whatnot to be in your community alt writers way nationalists etc to be in your community functionally you're only going to end up having a community of those people for the most part because most left-leaning people or people who are part of the groups that nazis aren't a big fan of aren't going to find it pleasurable to spend any time in your community and i think that's probably has something to do with why you have such a right wing bend now on uh in terms of viewership on the channel yeah i mean do you but do they think that like if you push people i mean this has been a thing that's happened with us in general is you know they have tried to get us to do what they want they want to push right wingers off of everything that they can and we didn't listen so then they went towards trying to go over us and trying to get us shut down we went through like five or six discords um we went through a lot of a lot of shit they've been trying to get our um we don't even like stream to twitch anymore because we know that like we're just going to get in and it's not even worth it because then we won't be able to have people who on twitch to come on our channel but um do left wingers think that if these right wingers are just like not around here that they just somehow their views just go away they just don't exist no they're going to still be there and if anything they're going to go into the deeper darker areas of the web and they're going to um maybe even get radicalized further like a rather a space if people are willing to get out of their echo chamber and not a lot of people are to um take advantage of that and let people have these discussions especially on social media is the best place you freaking can have these discussions rather where um in the streets okay you got it and checking for last questions I think that's it do you want to say folks it has been a true treat lots of fun tonight our guests are linked in the description so if you want to hear more from them you can one last thank you Brittany and Xander it's been a true pleasure yeah you should chat out the Dallas show one more time oh I'm going to in fact I gotta tell you folks stick around if you're watching live right now I'm gonna be back in just a moment with a post-credits scene updating you on some of the juicy upcoming debates that are happening in Dallas on January 15th and 16th including the one that you can see at the bottom right of your screen Elijah Schaefer and Destiny collide for the first time in person it is going to be a juicy one on whether or not religion and government can overlap so we have many other ones that will be talking about including some with Xander Hall himself and we will be right back with that in just a moment so stick around and thanks one more time Brittany and Xander Hall for a great debate thanks for having me thank you amazing my dear friends that was a blast to say the least we hope you were doing well out there I am so excited to be here and I'm going to tell you we've got some based and or red-pilled updates about this upcoming conference you won't even believe it so I've got to tell you first we want to give a huge thanks to both Brittany and Xander Hall as that was a blast of a debate I seriously enjoy this so much and so I've got to tell you my dear friends big updates for this upcoming conference so as you can see at the bottom right of your screen Elijah Schaefer versus Destiny that's going to be our main event for the political debates day that debate is live to the public even if you don't throw into the crowd fund even if you don't buy a ticket for the in-person conference that one you can watch from home sitting on a couch and your pajamas while eating your fruit loops believe me it is going to be gigantic you guys we're absolutely pumped for that and you can see that at the main page of modern day debate but I've got to tell you some stuff if you are in the Dallas area you guys you'd be crazy to not check this out it is going to be epic and I'm going to throw in the link for the tickets in case you live in the Dallas area or even frankly I mean like hey Houston I used to live in Dallas or I should say in Texas and I know that even a drive from Houston or San Antonio Austin Lubbock those aren't too far you guys even if you're in the state of Texas I would highly recommend we are running out of the VIP tickets they're going to be gone fast so I've got to tell you for real jump on those VIP tickets if you want one of them I am so surprised at how fast those sold people really are big on those VIP tickets so I do want to say hey jump on those as we're running out you guys it's going to be epic and I've got to tell you I told you yesterday but if you haven't heard about this I reached out to Bob and I said hey I would like to for real I would like to lower the ticket prices because we want to get is hey it's a new year and we thought let's make we want this to be as big as possible we want this to be as many people as possible we want it to be a packed house and so we are it's been exciting that we've had a good start to the ticket sales but we said listen we want to get as many people as humanly possible let's lower the ticket prices and that way just for anybody we really want to see there and it is going to be a blast you guys it is not just this huge debate with Elijah Schaefer and Destiny and not only that but some of them I've already shown because you might be thinking like what other debates are there well at the bottom right of your screen you can see another one Infrared and Destiny will be debating whether or not Biden has done a good job so far that is going to be a fun one and there are a lot of other ones we've got on January 15th remember that date January 15th do you remember it I'll do this like I don't do it this like soon but I always quiz my students like at the start of class I always do like a quick review asking questions so it's January 15th and what date that's right the day after January 16th two-day conference and you guys might be wondering well what are all the like the actual debates that are going to be there Janice because I don't even know I was kind of wondering is you know like you maybe mentioned that it's going to be big but how big are we talking well let me show you take a peek at this my dear friends there I am don't worry I'm not a ghost I'm still alive but check this out as you can see on the top row those are the debates for the religion day so you can even see on screen if you look closely it says Saturday January 15th David Wood versus Kenny Boomer debating whether or not Muhammad's marriage to Aisha was ethical roughly speaking they're debating whether or not Muhammad was a pedo it's going to be controversial this ain't your grandma's debate channel I've warned you now I've got to tell you guys this is going to be an epic debate so I've got to tell you that one you have to throw into the crowdfund to watch it live or you can buy a ticket which I have just thrown into the live chat and it's pinned at the top of the chat but not only that we put the link for the in-person tickets in the description box of every debate and we also put it in or I should say we also put the link for the crowdfund because maybe you're like Janice I want to watch that one live like that sounds like a juicy controversial debate it's going to be fiery it's going to trigger a lot of people and it will believe me we are very very excited that I've got to tell you you don't want to miss this one live for real it is going to be huge and people really Kenny was telling me the other day one of the debaters said that's going to be a big one people are going to be going big for that and so I've got to tell you quick click on that link for the crowdfund throw in if you throw in 9 bucks to get to watch all the debates live or maybe you're like I was like Janice I don't know what is this crowdfund how does that exactly work is I got to tell you my dear friends not only do we have these well before I talk about the crowdfund not only do we have these religion debates which you can see at the top row of the screen up there see there they are and then we have this is the one right here that you can see my finger is pointing to that one right there between Daniel Hikachu and Destiny is going to be on requires the domination of Muslim nations that is going to be a juicy crossover debate you can see a mix of religion and politics that's going to be our main event for Saturday night believe me you guys this is honestly going to be off the charts we are absolutely pumped for that one so that's not all this conference is two days and it's true you can get a ticket for just one day you can do that if you want but if you want to do it for two days I'd highly encourage you and the reason is you can see right here like right where my finger is waving on screen like that row and I'm pointing to the thumbnail right now you can barely see it Elijah, Schaefer and Destiny have agreed to debate whether or not religion and government can overlap that's going to be massive and then you can see all these other debates so if you look at it on the bottom row you can see there's one with a panel T-Jump, Dylan Burns and Xander Hall the other one being and this one and the second one between Infrared and Dylan Burns this rudge match is going to be an in-person debate only so if you buy a ticket you get to watch it live otherwise it's going to be released on the YouTube channel afterward and then we have another panel this one in particular on how many genders there are and whether or not the left has progressed or regressed that's with Xander Hall a surprise guest who by the way is HAKE OF THE HAKE and Amy and Destiny that's going to be a juicy one plus yet another panel this is our last panel for the day and that's going to be Xander Dylan Burns Nuance Bro and actual Justice Warrior Sean Fitzgerald that's a power-packed panel that one is going to be gigantic and not only that but as you can see just over my shoulder right here that is going to be our main event as mentioned and so I'm going to tell you some of these as I mentioned only one or two of them so for example Dylan Burns vs Infrared that's one and then T-Jump vs Destiny which you can see right above my head on whether or not morality is objective those two debates are going to be in-person only so if you buy a ticket whether it be a standard ticket or a VIP ticket you get to watch those live and in person and it's going to be awesome and Chris thanks for your question says what time does debate start or end I am so glad you asked and we're actually going to start doing debates at 10am each day so it is going to be a full day of debates believe me I think if I remember right it's actually we bumped it to it's maybe about 10.30 because we know that some people are late sleepers but it is going to be a full day of debates because the last one is at 8 o'clock in the evening or so so you guys this is going to be just gigantic I am absolutely pumped for it we are so thankful that all of these speakers have been so willing to do this as we really do believe that this is going to be monstrous just absolutely gigantic we're pumped about that and I've got to tell you though there will be a bathroom there Cranky Beast 2259 we are excited about that by the way Cranky Beast I loved I got a laugh so hard when Brooke lay this smack down on you for your little comment tonight nasty guy let me put this in the old live chat I'm using the old nasty emoticon nasty nasty but I do want to say hello to you though seriously we do we want to say thanks so much for all of your support you guys I am pumped let me say hello to you and let me say thank you for all of your support you guys have made modern day debate as great as it is yesterday we announced and celebrated hitting 60,000 subscribers which is thanks to you guys for making this channel epic and making it grow as it has and I'm serious about that because you might like you guys help this channel even just by hanging out here it really does help the channel for example it tells the algorithm to recommend our videos to more people like yourselves but I want to say hello there Crimson Flare I see you there in the old live chat as well as Mark Thompson thanks for coming by says can we get Destiny and Infrared to stand back to back that's funny maybe but CrankyBeast2259 says Jeffy hell yeah I don't know what you're talking about but HGDFHH thanks for coming by we're glad you're here and CrankyBeast2259 says I'm already pissed no name pumped to have you here as well as Michelle Dessert glad you are with us once again it's been a while and Glebe Glebe Glor good to see you as well as BubblegumGun and Ratfinder MrNiceGuyWinkyFace glad you are with us as well as CupRunithOver and AmazingSoul glad you are with us and I've got to tell you post apocalyptic warlord glad you're here as well as Crimson Flare and Nation of No One Jacob Roseland glad you are here says what's in the VIP versus standard package well let me tell you I'm going to pull that up right now so I've got an event bright this is the link that I have thrown into the description box and I'm going to read this for you just to make it as clear as possible there are the VIP tickets if you get the standard basically standard is where you get to watch all the debates of course in person and that's the show that's essentially like that's why we're there but VIP has these added perks so for example you would get a modern day debate debate concert or coffee mug as well as access to all meet and greets with interlocutors and moderators as well as premier seating for all of the debates and that includes front row seating in particular that's what we mean by front or by premier seating as well as access to VIP cash bar and lounge and if your VIP is purchased by 2029 or later we may have to ship your t-shirt or mug and so that's something that if you happen to be ordering VIP we are pumped to send you that t-shirt we just got to let you know that it won't be there in person is that's something that we were like oh is our first time doing a conference like this so we are we're learning together we're kind of in a way building the airplane as it takes off but don't worry this conference is going to be epic and so we are it's excited to get into this like we love learning how to do this like it is seriously fun and so but I want to say Hannah Anderson thanks so much for your support says I think it's on the tickets website actually good point it's actually I've got to get it on there I've got to get the actual times for the debates on there but be truthful glad to see you here says hit the like button I have and I gotta tell you amazing do hit that like button as we are at 139 we are so close to 140 it only takes one more will you be the 140th and then cranky beats 22 59 says yeah yeah I'm disgusting we know we know and this talking about Hooters Michelle desert thanks for coming by though says hi James glad to see you Michelle and stupid New Year's energy says epic in all caps and I can't agree more you guys it is going to be gigantic and I'm going to tell you we are pumped why you might be wondering well James like why are you pumped because maybe you're like James I'm not in Texas I can't be there and I agree this sounds like it's going to be off the chain as Pat aka Squatch talk would say good to see a Squatch talk I see you there and you might be thinking like you know James I would love to go you know I just I got to tell you I don't know exactly I'm kind of new to this and so I'm kind of wondering well what if I happen to not be there in person well here you can watch this from home debate con is going to be huge and it's actually something that hey if you throw into this crowdfund which we have linked in the description box you can watch all of the debates live and it helps us put these conferences on this is huge because for us to put these conferences on seriously it's a simple fact of the matter that it does and we'll cover the cost kind of the budget for debate con but it's something that hey we want to do these conferences twice a year for real we want to do that and we think we can however it takes effort and it takes frankly cash to book for example the speakers hotel rooms their flights and stuff like that and so you're helping make this event possible but you might be thinking James I like it I agree you know it's cool idea the crowdfunding stuff you could say you know make many hands makes light work and that's true because everybody can throw in a small amount and that helps us make this event possible but let me show you you might be thinking I don't know is it easy though because let's say you're like well James like I'm willing to throw into the crowdfund but I'm also kind of wondering like is it easy to like sign up like it is so let me show you I just threw the link for the crowdfund in the actual live chat and I'm pinning that to the top of the chat now I gotta tell you you can create an indiegogo account but you don't even have to you can just do the kind of speed through sign up by just clicking on that crowdfund link which I have pinned at the top of the chat and which is in the description box and you can just use your Facebook to sign in how easy is that I mean seriously for you guys it's just amazing super user friendly super easy and you might be thinking well James I don't know I mean okay cool it's easy that it's actually pretty convenient to just throw into the crowdfund but James tell me more about the budget because I'm kind of confused like how does this cost any money and James are you going to go on vacation with the funds that come in no 100% of the funds that come in through the crowdfund and through ticket sales both of those are going to be reinvested into debate con part 2 so I gotta tell you you guys it is guaranteed the funds are going to be reinvested into debate con by the way when does debate con start that's right Saturday January 15th so you guys it is only like really like it's coming fast like we've got about a week left for the crowdfund and then it's gonna be closed so throw into the crowdfund now like I wouldn't wait folks and so you might be wondering well what are all the costs well the venue is the big blue chunk on the right here on the pie graph then and because it is true it's like if you tell a hotel like hey we want to rent this room out and we're gonna have 200 people or so come in they'll say well you know we have to ask you for some money and so that's something that we have to pay for as well as the chunk on the bottom in orange is for the speakers hotel rooms and the chunk on the far left is speakers flights that's the gray chunk and then you can see this yellow chunk kind of at the top that's per diem basically covering food for the speakers and then that little sliver is the fees that Kickstarter builds in so we build those in just to cover that cost as well but I've got to tell you you might be thinking James that's cool but I mean like what exactly you know what reason do I have to believe that you know what you're doing with all this stuff this is like you're a YouTube channel James and all of a sudden you're doing these things like this we've already had a successful crowd fund we have made this debate happen in the past it was a huge success and that was just almost exactly a year ago in the past when he hosted Mike Jones and Michael Shermer so seriously that was amazing and it is going to be even better this time but you might be wondering James like ah beginner's luck you had a good one last time but you know we're going to be able to do it again we've had two successful crowd funds we hosted this debate as well and that was a massive one between Dr. Kenny Rose and Matt Dallondi but I've got to tell you we are absolutely pumped for this big stuff is coming at modern day debate and we encourage you to join us while we are small we are at 60,000 or what is it 60,000 and 100 subscribers today which thank you so much for you new subscribers we appreciate you guys we love you guys we support you make this channel as great as it is and seriously you guys make it fun I just enjoy doing this I told Brittany and Zander Hall before we went live I said I love doing this like this is a great time and it puts a spring in my step when I get to do it Crimson Flair says when is Daniel Hikachu versus Destiny well it's on the religion day and remember the religion day is the first day which means that would be Saturday January 15th the conference and then amazing soul says James Muslims appreciate your hustle came because of Daniel stayed for the knowledge thanks amazing soul seriously that really is encouraging that means a lot I really do appreciate that and then Super New Year's horror energy says say hi to me senpai stoked to have you with us and let's see perfect one says you need to put a modern day debate on your message oh yeah you got to tag me and then bubblegumgun says have you gotten her request yet no I haven't but thanks for letting me know that I'm kind of skeptical that's true but nonetheless let me know if it is but Hannah Anderson says we are having an after show in the modern day debate discord come and debate some more everyone is welcome and we do have a modern day debate discord let's farm as well as others have done a fantastic job of building the modern day debate discord so I've got to tell you it's a great community I'm really in there just because it's hard for me like I'm a boomer I still don't know how to use discord but I've got to tell you it is fantastic and people tell me all the time like they're like this is a blast so we are encouraged that people have found that useful it is a fantastic job we are thankful for let's farm as well as others and then bubble Bobble thanks for coming by I see you there says scheduled for January 15th that's right that's when the conference is thanks for reminding them and crimson flair says it'll be streamed right guys that's right we are going to have not all of the streams but some of the streams will be live to the public even if you didn't throw into the crowdfund because we want to say hey we know that not everybody some days people are like hey I like I just can't right now we understand and we want to say thanks for your support of modern day debate and that's why we do want to have those live to the public and all of the debates will actually be released to the public so in other words like it's not like you only get to see the debates that let's say we have during the conference there are about half of them you only get to watch them live if you throw into the crowdfund or you become a patreon supporter and our patreon is linked in the description because maybe you're like I don't like Indiegogo it's like well you know okay we've got patreon linked in the description or you can become a channel member I mean what's more convenient than that like really easy if you become a channel member you can watch that stream so I am pumped though I've got to tell you it is going to be huge it is going to be gigantic and I've got to do a couple of things right now two seconds I just remember okay I made the note thanks for your patience is that if you are really against Indiegogo you're like James I just do not like Indiegogo it triggers me that's okay you can become a channel member and watch those live debates during the conference as well so there are some like I said some debates where they're going to be like hey help us out thrown to the crowdfund and those if you're like well I wasn't able to become a channel member even though it's two bucks to become a channel member or you can become a patreon supporter and if you do that I think if I remember right it's two or three bucks a month and you get to watch these live debates all of them as well and so I've got to tell you I mean it's like a piece of cake for real you guys and those are alternative ways if you're like I just hate Indiegogo well you know can't please everybody amazing soul says James hope you hope for you a bright future and this channel thanks for that seriously amazing soul that's encouraging cranky B says James you've been lifting I've never even tried it I don't even know what it's like I've heard about this idea like lifting but let's see kitty E thanks for coming by says I cannot hear you is that my phone or you that's definitely your phone kitty that's because you've been going on those websites I told you not to go on all right next up she's kidding I don't know you but Jerry thanks for your kind where it says peace and love always James thanks for the equal platform thank you for real that means a lot and bubble bobble says you can donate a hundred dollars to have a zoom call with James by the way those I think might be sold out but if you throw in nine bucks you get to watch all of the debates live which is amazing so you guys for real I'm just I'm pumped about this is wall bannu says salam only one god it's all a SWT let's see what is this WT me I can't remember says love here from South Africa Johannesburg pray five times a day we're glad you're here with us is wall bannu we hope you are doing well thanks for hanging out with us here at modern day debate and emigran femegu said should get Richard Dawkins versus Kent Hovind now that'd be a juicy one I agree we're glad you're here emigran and Bob Pope says let's see Bob we're glad you're here stinky cheese man stoked you are with us says wish I could have seen this live can't wait to listen while I'm working tomorrow I love this channel thanks stinky cheese man seriously that's really encouraging I appreciate you saying that brassman says dude fix your sound you're always barely audible I don't know about that I think I'm doing okay tonight I can turn it up a little bit for you actually I'm a little bit low I admit that but it's not that low you might have to get your ears wax cleaned out so I'm I'm just teasing chill out cranky beast 2259 thanks says wish you were the president that's funny and frightening but HGG FHH says can't say I will donate now but I will see if I can in the near future thanks for that we appreciate you considering that seriously and yeah that's the thing too is like it's like folks if you want I mean like you could you just become a channel member it's like a piece of cake so for real we want to say you guys have been supportive of the vision we are absolutely thrilled we have a vision that we are absolutely pumped about carrying out at modern a debate and believe me we are small join us while we are small because as we carry out this vision we are confident that we are going to grow quickly and bigly you guys we are absolutely determined to carry out this vision of providing a level platform so that everybody can make their case on a level playing field well they discuss the big questions of life and while we get people from different walks of life talking so we want to say thanks for your support of that vision and no matter what beyond a shadow of it out that's something that we know that we all doesn't matter black white gay straight politically left politically right everybody says hey at least let it be a level playing field for the debates that's fair and that's what we want in the battleground of ideas and so we are absolutely committed to that idea and I'm going to tell you folks that's something we are all committed to no matter what walk of life we are from that's something that we all hold dear and agree on so I do want to say you guys make it fun for me got your six says where's james hake james hake is going to be at the conference he is our guest you could say surprise guest for the conference so we are absolutely pumped about that you guys and I got to tell you though we got big stuff in store we are optimistic and excited about the future and thank you guys for your support we are at 145 likes only five more likes and we'll be at 150 I know we can get there smash that like button as we are so close only five away from the big 150 now I've got to tell you guys what day is it Wednesday we've got two meetings tomorrow so I actually got to go pretty soon one of them is in the morning but I've got to tell you this thank you HGGFHH says I will watch and support this channel for sure we appreciate that seriously it means more than you know and we are absolutely excited Mohammed Hamdan says good idea freedom of expression we are glad you agree with us Mohammed and we are absolutely determined to carry that out we just made 150 likes thank you guys so much for helping us hit that goal 152 amazing thank you guys so much for your support seriously Cranky Beast says I liked it thank you for hitting that like button we really do appreciate that Cranky Beast and you guys it's hard for me to stop myself it's hard for me to not be as pumped because I am just excited but like tell me how are you guys doing let me grab a sip of water tell me how are you guys doing it's fun to hang out with you I actually I really do like I love moderating don't get me wrong but just getting to hang out with you guys is fun and it's something that's just nice to get to do be truthful says we need to make the loved button thanks for your support we appreciate that love right back at you now I am watching the live chat Cranky Beast 2259 says she liked it thank you for that and let's see here the old twitch chat my dear friends I'm behind first time viewer in the old twitch says this is the legend 5577 thank you so much we are pumped that you were with us the legend 5577 says I wish I would have known you were live sooner amazing don't worry better late than never and we are glad that you were with us now let's see here Ozzy and good to see you there in the old live chat and twitch as well as Doomguy77 thanks for coming by you can actually if you tag me Doomguy77 you can actually ask a question that way although sometimes I'm a little bit slow at checking the twitch chat I admit that I'm working on it I'm working progress last underscore username thanks for coming by we are pumped you are with us I see you there in the old twitch chat as well and Michael mistaken thanks for coming by I see you there in the old twitch chat as well as super power we are not casting pump to see you thanks for dropping by we are pumped that you were here but I've got to tell you my dear friends we are absolutely excited we are excited about the future and about everything that is coming up I've got to tell you we want to say thank you we want to say we've got big things in store for 2022 we're going to be trying some new bold stuff as we're taking some risks we're doing some cool new stuff and we want to say thank you guys so much we do appreciate all of your love and support thanks for your kind words Brooke Chavis take care of yourself James amazing I promise I will I'm going to get to sleep soon and thanks cranky beast for your support as well you guys we are excited and I promise I will take care of myself I actually you've got to work out again that I didn't tell you guys I didn't know it but last week I streamed a couple times I had the rona I got a positive test result today because basically the week or so between Christmas and New Year's I had the rona at that time and I was hosting debates I thought it was just a cold so don't worry in the streaming of those debates nobody was infected with corona I was alone but I actually didn't know it until I got the test result today I thought it might be the rona it was like a few days ago I lost my taste and they obviously that made me think I was like maybe there was corona but I am pumped I took a week off from exercising and I got to exercise the last couple of days last three days I've been back in the old gym and it has been amazing because I really do it's just a great way to take care of stress I love working out Surgeon General thanks for your super chat support seriously appreciate that I still have a cough but I'm okay says miss the new year Patreon meeting sorry happy new year and here's the debate con thank you for that support seriously Surgeon General that means more than you know we really do appreciate that and I promise I have been resting and hydrating so I'm going to be okay I promise I'm going to get plenty of rest tonight and emigran says we need more debates in the real world and not just online I agree we do agree with that absolutely so we are seriously pumped to have this conference as this is going to have six live debates in total during the conference that's just for the general public if you throw into the Patreon or the crowdfund it's going to be a total of not six but ten live debates and if you are there in person you will be able to watch ten live debates and then you've got those two special in person debates that like you can only see if you buy a ticket for the in person event and so what we want to say thank you guys seriously we appreciate all of your support we love you guys I could be question mark thanks for coming by says you think Bigfoot is an illegal immigrant lol very politically incorrect next up Brooke Chavez says I missed the last three Patreon meetings James I hopefully won't miss the next one no worries I know you guys are busy and so I know that the Patreon I love those meetings it's fun to get to like talk about like the channel and stuff and like the upcoming stuff that we're planning so we appreciate you guys coming to those seriously it is always fun it is a total blast cranky beast talking smacks as I would like to what is it I would like to fist fight you I hate to break this to you but I would totally totally dominate you and the reason is I mean this would have to be like mixed you know it's just kind of any type of fighting style but yeah it dominate you it would be pretty bad it'd be very very gruesome but traffic beanie says I've been watching your channel for years and I love what you do keep at it thanks traffic beanie thanks seriously that means so much I totally appreciate that that really does encourage me and then brainstorm rex says what's your favorite debate you've ever hosted you know what it really was one of the more fun ones is uh and it also it's our biggest one is uh inspiring philosophy versus Matt Dillahunty in person that was I think our first ever in person debate and that one was ginormous so that was actually like absolutely pumped uh or I was pumped for that that was a blast but thanks guys I'm in a run want to say thanks I shouldn't have this I'll rep the fight let me just be sure I got my reminders in here let's see there's two other things that's going to do tonight during the stream okay yeah so there are those three different types of streams there are some that are live for the public there are some that are live for everybody who puts into the crowdfund so they would get to watch both the public ones and the crowdfund ones and then there are just a couple there are only two that basically they will only be live for those who are in person so they're not going to be streamed at all and they will be released on the channel eventually but that's we're trying to get people to buy in person tickets and that's an extra incentive for buying that it's just two but nonetheless and then uh let's see did I do that test a few oh yeah yeah and yes we are running out of VIP tickets though so I want to say thanks everybody for your support I seriously I love you guys you guys honestly you guys are so fun I seriously appreciate you guys I hope you have a great rest of your night and I will see you tomorrow you guys did you not know that are in raw is coming back tomorrow so we're pumped about that one that's going to be huge are in raw versus Randall are on biblical violence so that is going to be controversial to say the least you guys if you haven't seen that head over there and give that a juicy like because that stream I'm pumped about that stream is we we haven't really promoted because we've been promoting the conference like crazy but are in raw versus Randall doctor I should say Randall rouser tomorrow so yeah you guys want to show that is going to be a show tomorrow night seriously had I put that link in the old live chat and that way show some love to that stream go ahead and give it a like already if you want to help support that as well you guys that's going to be a juicy one and so I want to say thanks everybody we are pumped to see you next time let me just I think I have to update something two seconds 89 we did we actually had someone throw into the crowdfund so we just jumped up let me just update this because I feel like it's it's kind of fun to like see it on screen is it just me but I always like showing it on screen when we have an increase in the crowdfund meter so let me show you that updated amount so that as you can see on screen right now has jumped up so thank you for your support of the crowdfund only eight days left you guys it is coming fast and that meter on the far right of the screen has been going up and we want to say thank you for that support as we are excited that usually during the last week is when we have the most support pour in so we really do appreciate you guys thanks for all of your support as we continue to pursue the vision of providing a level playing field so that everybody can make their case on a neutral platform as they discuss the big questions of life and as we try to get people from different walks of life talking so thanks everybody and we are excited about that vision we love you guys thanks for making this fun and we are determined to get that crowdfund popping getting it growing I don't care if we have to do a car wash in January we are going to make it happen even if it's me Tom jumping Stevens Dean doing that car wash in January thanks everybody and we will see you next time have a great rest of your night