 of this meeting of the Capitola City Council and just to acknowledge that this is our first meeting back in person since March of 2020. Yeah, let's hear it for that. I finally feel like we're out of the woods and it's good to be here. It's good to see all of you here in the audience and so we'll give the clerk a few minutes to get ready for the roll call. Thank you Mayor Story. Council Member Bertrand appears to be on his way. Council Member Brown present. Council Member Brooks is not here. Vice Mayor Keiser? Here. Excellent and Mayor Story. Here. Thank you. Thank you. And now if everyone will join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. Thank you. This time I'll ask if we have any additions or deletions to the agenda. Staff has no changes. And now we'll move on to presentations. Our first presentation is an introduction to the Capitola's first hybrid city council meeting. I think the city manager was going to lead us in that. Yes, thank you all and thank you everyone for being here in person and being here remotely. I just want to take a moment to welcome everyone to our first hybrid meeting. I just want everyone to understand that as you can see people are running around here frantically to make sure that all the technology is working. So please bear with us and give us a little bit of slack as we try to get this thing going. I will note that we have, I expect another council member to be joining us remotely. You will be able to see the council member remotely up on the screen there and in the audience. In addition we will be accepting public comment from people who are both in the room and people who are on Zoom. What we will do is we will first go to the people in the room to make public comment. And then if you are participating via Zoom, simply raise your hand or dial star nine if you're calling in and then we will go to remote testimony. So with that, turn it back to the mayor and we'll get on to our next presentation. Right. Thank you. And I just want to add to that. You know, it really is good. I know we acknowledged it, but I just want to take this moment to acknowledge this, you know, being able to be back in person meetings. I really feel that this is what democracy is all about, particularly in our community for people to be able to come in person. And now we have this added technology of people who may not be able to attend in person, being able to Zoom in and participate. So I think it's strengthening our democracy, but you know, there are going to be a lot of glitches. I anticipate on the way and, but we will iron them out. And I look forward to serving in this role at this time. So thank you for that. And now we'll move on to our next presentation, which is an introduction to Capitola Community Service staff, senior planner, Brian Brolich, building expector to Eric Martin and development services technician, Jorge Mel Goza. Yes, come step right on up. Hi, Katie. Hi, mayor story and council. It's a pleasure to be here tonight to introduce new staff members. Over the past year, we've filled three positions within our department. One was a vacancy during COVID, which was reopened and then two replacing staff members that moved on. So first, I'd like to take a moment and introduce Brian Freilich, our senior planner. Brian has been with the city for eight months. He joined us last December prior to joining. He split his career between the public sector in planning and the private sector as a development project manager. Brian brings a rounded view to projects due to his blend of experiences and can uniquely relate to the applicants and understands the real pressures and constraints that they face. Brian was an immediate contributor, having been able to use his public sector experience to assist with daily business and leverage his private sector understanding to bring closure to several large and complex planning projects. Since Brian has joined our team, I've come to truly appreciate his project management skills and his communication skills. He's already had some great accomplishments in his first eight months with the city, having managed a new hotel project through the process. And during the planning commission, one added condition of approval. That's pretty amazing. He also acts as a mentor to our associate planner with his years of experience and his understanding of the big picture of planning in the future of Capitola. Brian lives in the Santa Cruz Mountains with his wife and his two school age children. And he often reflects on that he's commuting to the right side of the mountain. So it's a pleasure to have Brian with us. Welcome, Brian. Thank you. That was a very nice intro, Katie. Good evening, Mr. Mayor and honorable council members. It is a pleasure to be here. This is a great move for me in my career just to build a little bit on kind of the back and forth I've had in my career. I think it allows me to have experienced the regulatory process and on both sides. And I think it really can relate to applicants and try to demystify what can be a confusing process, anticipate next steps. And that's that both helps an applicant and the interested public. So I think I can map out those processes and hopefully leverage that forward with great service to the community and better outcomes and less problems associated with development projects. I'd like to also thank Jamie and especially Katie for the opportunity to work for Capitola. Thanks. Well, welcome, Brian. Welcome on behalf of the residents and the city council. We feel very fortunate to have you here. That sounds like quite a coup to me to approve a hotel project with only one condition. I think that may establish a new record. So thank you for your work over the past eight months. And we look forward to having yours of service for the residents of Capitola. So yeah, welcome. Hey, next I'd like to introduce George Melgoza. He's our development service technician. George has been with the city for nine months. Actually, they both joined our team within two weeks of one another. So he started in November of last year. He works as the community development service tax, who's got a focus on keeping our building department operating smoothly and getting plans routed throughout the city and everything organized, as well as administering our affordable housing program, which is not an easy task. So I've been working really closely with George since he's arrived. And he's also been getting training from Carolyn Flynn. George is a local to the area having lived in Watsonville, the majority of his life. George went to Cabrillo College and then on to CSUMB where he majored in marine science. One of his favorite assignments was working with the white sharks at Hopkins Marine Station. After graduating, he went on to work as an operations analyst for Granite Rock. George is extremely organized and really has brought our building department to a new level, very customer oriented and just a pleasure for the public to work with. George enjoys learning new things. He's currently enrolled at Cabrillo in their blueprint reading class, which starts next week. And he enjoys sports and staying active. His two young children are the focus of his life. And we really appreciate since George has joined our team, he's made a new tradition for us of going out to lunch once a week. So all team members that are available on either Thursday or Friday go out and have a nice lunch. So really a team builder and it's a pleasure working with George. Yeah, I enjoy it. Thank you council members. Thank you everyone here. Thank you for the opportunity, Katie. And, you know, it's great to be here. I love the ocean. So great place to work next to the ocean, especially the people here very friendly, very helpful. Just great and happy to be here. Great. Well, George, let me welcome you and first I want to apologize because when I announced this, I said your first name wrong. So no, it's either one. Okay. Well, you prefer George? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, welcome. We feel you sound like you have an extensive and diverse background. So I think that we are fortunate here to be able to have your services. And it sounds like you're a great team builder in getting everyone out to lunch at least once a week. So welcome and look forward to working with you on affordable housing in Capitola. And that that's not going to be an easy task. But we look forward to working with you. And I wonder if the other council members have any comments for Brian and George or just welcome to both of you. We're really excited to have you here. Yeah. And I don't want to forget the council members on Zoom. Thank you. Yeah, I just want to second that. Thank you guys for joining us and and welcome to the team. Thank you. Right. Thank you, Katie. Next. So this next presentation of Brandon Napoli will be on the Zoom. So I'm hoping his image will come up. He's joining. Okay. Do you want to tell us more about Brandon while we're waiting? I can start. Oh, here he comes. So, okay, I will jump in. Welcome, Brandon. So for this next recognition, I need to tell a short story. It was likely in May of 2020. I remember Jamie approaching me and saying, Katie, I casually said, Katie, I think we have a new funding opportunity. We were all ready to give back to our community. It was right after the pandemic started in any way we could help. He said, if you could look into this for me, it's going to come through the state, something to do with CDBG. And from there, the term CDBG became second hand to all of city staff and our city council. During the first round of funding, the desire of our city council was to do something for our local businesses as many of them were shuttered. And as we did our homework and asked endless questions of Paul Ashby, our CDBG consultant, we realized that we needed to take more time because the economic development grants through CDBG are extremely complicated. And we really needed to have a team in place in order to administer money and funding out to the businesses. So, we knew there would be a second round. And when it came through, I started looking for partners. I reached out to banks. I reached out to different nonprofits. Everyone was interested in partnering with us, but everyone was extremely busy. And it was a very confusing time for all of us. And I remember reaching out to Brandon and telling him what I was up to. I was pretty nervous because I'd asked a few people at this point. And in his very casual way, he responded something along the lines of, sure, yeah, we, SBDC, that's what we do. We help businesses. And we would love to help the city of Capitola small businesses. So, I started breathing after that. And we, I knew this is a great partner. And from there, we kicked off something that we thought would maybe be a three to six month relationship. And I think it was a year later that we actually, like, closed up all the, getting all the grants out there and funding the different businesses. So, Brandon, Napoli and his team spent countless hours assisting our Capitola businesses at first with their grant applications. Once the application deadline was closed, the SBDC then reviewed all the applications. And we had to make certain findings that meet the federal regulations related to low income and just meeting a lot of criteria through the federal standards for CDBG. In the end, I think they reviewed somewhere between like 35 to 40 different applications and only 10 qualified. We ended up doubling the funding. We were originally going to give 7500 to each business. The money was doubled to 15,000 per business. And I can say very honestly, this never would have gotten done without Brandon and his team. So, I'll forever be thankful for all the work and dedication and time they put into this. So, Brandon, with that, I have a certificate of appreciation for you today. And I just want to thank you for all of your hard work and dedication and your staff's dedication as well. Thank you. Go ahead, Brandon. Did you want to say a few words? Sure. I'll say a couple words. First, I'm honored. This is what we do. We help small businesses and we partner with cities. The last couple years of pandemic were extraordinarily difficult for businesses. And the real difference was whether they felt supported locally or not. And the city of Capitola really stepped up to make sure that their businesses felt supported locally. And I have to say that makes a world of a difference to know that their city supports them. And so it's been a joy to be partnered with the city and to work together on this grant program and continue to work together to make sure the businesses are served well. They are really the unsung heroes of the community and what makes Capitola a destination beyond a beach is those unique businesses that are there. So very thankful and looking forward to working in the future together. Right. Thank you, Brandon. And let me just add my thanks for your work. I know the CDBG process and application is very difficult and complicated time consuming process. I think we're fortunate to have somebody who has the expertise to marshal that through for us successfully and to really allow us to help our small businesses during the periods during the pandemic when we were shut down and they were shut down. And I know it was pretty scary there for a while whether or not all of them were going to be able to survive. So thank you for your assistance with that. And thank you, Katie, and staff for bringing that to us and allowing us to be in that position of helping our small business partners in Capitola. Thank you. And a member of Brandon's staff is here. I'm not sure if he's aware of that through the zoom. So just, you know, so Alexander Peterson is here and he worked on that tirelessly as well. Thank you. All right. Well, thank you, Alexander. And thank you for being here. Okay. So I believe that concludes our presentations and looks like council member Bertrand has joined us from virtual to in person. So welcome. And so now I'll ask whether we have any additional materials for tonight's meeting. There are none. So now we'll move on to oral communications. This is an opportunity for members of the public to address the city council on items that are either not on tonight's agenda or maybe on tonight's consent agenda. And if do we have copies of the agenda for the public or it looks like something that we need to add for the next meeting. Yeah. So I realized if you don't have the agenda, you may not know what's on the consent list. But if maybe I'll after this, I'll maybe read through them if any members of the public wants to comment on them. Maybe I'll go ahead and do that now. And the consent agenda items are a to consider the minutes on the July 28th meeting. Be considering update to the count one account two and senior account job descriptions. C considered the purchase of new mobile computers for the police department. D the over street banner policy update. Those are the banners that are on Monterey and on capitol Avenue. E appeal of the design permit historic alteration permit variance and coastal development permit to demolish an existing residence and construct a new home that retains non conformities for sizes setbacks of 14 10 prospect avenue. And I believe the recommendation is that matters coming to us on September the 22nd. And F receive an update on pandemic response and consider adopting proposed resolutions lying for the continuation of tele comforting conferencing. Excuse me. So those are the consent items. And so now I'll ask the members of the public wish to speak on any of those are items that are not on tonight's agenda. There we go. Come right up. Good evening. First, I just wanted to come up and just say thank you for bringing back the in person meetings. I hope that these will continue. And it would be lovely to see all five of you up there present, which I think would be wonderful if it works out. I do think that the idea of still tele televising or offering them, you know, zoom or hang out or whatever virtual method. I do think that that's really important because not everybody can always attend every meeting in person. But I do think it's really important that we bring back the idea of the in person meetings and and try to stick with that. I think a lot of folks as wonderful as the technology is it's it's a drag. I think we're all we all have a little bit of zoom fatigue in one way or another. And I do think it's a great way for everybody to mingle in the audience and you know, see their neighbors and members of the community in a face to face manner that I think we've just been lacking through the whole the whole idea of the pandemic and the ongoing endemic and the ongoing just, you know, the ongoing, right? So it's nice to be able to bring this back and I think have a little bit of normalcy and to interact with your peers and, you know, to be able to have your voices heard. You know, not am I on mute? Can you see me? You know, and again, I think it's great to have the option, but I'd really like to see this continue and be brought back with on a more permanent basis. So thank you. It's nice to see you all. All right. Well, thank you so much for that acknowledgement and encouragement. And so yes, please come on up. Congratulations also from those of us who have come for the first time to be in with all of you in this room. My name is Judith Piraki. I live at 101 Livermore with my husband here in Capitola. We've been part of owners since of this city since 1983, although our extended family started interfacing with this wonderful place in the 30s, began purchasing in the 50s, go forward to the 80s and 90s and into the 2000s. We have several homes within the Capitola footprint. We have become aware of your proposal potentially of a vacant home tax. And so it is for that reason I'd like to address the council. We have taken the time to look at several measures throughout the state and Vancouver. So we realized that they're all over the map as far as what the intent is. Reading the information that I found online for Capitola, I found I didn't find a lot of answers. So I guess that's why we're here with questions. We're not blessed to live here full time, like you all are, but we are here quite often. So these are the these are the questions that we have. How are the vacant homes to be selected? What is considered a vacant home? On the online, what constitutes vacancy? The data that I read online with you guys was 90 days was considered a residency or maybe 100 days, 120 days was considered a residency. It was just simply unclear. The other thing was I didn't see an in game. If in fact this initiative goes forward and should you reach the 66% threshold and it passes, where's the money going to go? You know, what's the rationale behind it? Where's the money going to go? What's the purpose? Where's it going to be spent? How's it going to be governed? Are you going to have a body that governs that? Do you have a sunset clause to this initiative? Most initiatives have sunset clauses. We didn't see any of that. I realized we're early and perhaps you're not going on the ballot in November. Maybe you are or maybe you're going in 24. We really don't know these things because it was unclear to us, but these were simply questions that we have. So there you go. We hope housing we realize is an issue and we certainly are very excited about what's going on at the mall and a mixed use thing that you all are coming up with and you know, congratulations to that. You know, so anyway, that was it. Thank you. Is there anyone else that would like to speak on public comment? I'll go now to Zoom. Do we have anyone on Zoom that would like to speak on public comment? And I don't see anyone with their hands raised. Now's your chance. Zoomers. You don't believe so, Mayor Story. Okay. Oh, I see one person. I'm going to unmute you and you'll have three minutes to speak. Okay. Just looking on it. I'm allowing them to speak, but they're not unmuting. So Nicole, go ahead and unmute yourself. So she's talking. Can you hear me? Yes. Yes, we can. Okay. We can hear you now. Thank you. Sorry about that. We were, we had gotten a notice regarding that AT&T in zero for 418114, the 1610 Bulb Avenue proposal. And it was listed that August 25th would be that it was going to be addressed at tonight's Council meeting. I guess we just want to know what if it's been, obviously it wasn't on the agenda tonight, but we did receive a notice if, when it will be discussed at a future Council meeting. Yes. Katie, do you have any information about 1610 Bulb? Yes. Originally, sorry, this is Katie Hurley, the Community Development Director. The applicant asked for that to be continued at the last Planning Commission meeting. And so we didn't put it on the City Council agenda either. So we did put up new noticing on site saying that this would be continued. So sorry for the inconvenience. It will not be heard tonight. And new noticing will go out before that is heard. So you'll get a new notice in the mail and the site will be noticed as well. We're anticipating October. Okay, great. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you for calling in. Okay. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Do we have anyone else on Zoom? No one, no one else has their hand up. Thank you. Yes. So that can, I'm going to close the public comment portions of the meeting. But I do want to address the question concerning the vacant home tax and just let you know that recently the Council decided to table that matter and not proceed at the upcoming November election. And you know, the Council will be turning over and so you know, who knows where that matter may go after the new year. But at this point it is tabled and it is not being studied at this time. So and thank you for coming in and speaking on it. So that will conclude the oral communications and now we'll go to staff and city council comments. We'll start with staff comments. I think this evening more than anything just looking to have a successful first hybrid meeting. I will also note that you know, I don't know that I've talked to the Council about this before the community at large, but you know, the great resignation has come to Capitola. You know, we've had a lot of staff turnover here in the last couple years. It's been sort of a challenging time. And so for anybody who is trying to figure out who they should be interfacing with either from the public or with the Council, just please bear with us as we kind of people take on new roles. For example, I think you may know that our city clerk has recently taken on a new role. This is going to be one of the last meetings that she's doing this job and she's going to be doing another important job as the assistant to the city manager coming up shortly. So a lot of changes and everyone should appreciate everyone's patience. Okay, congratulations, Chloe. So now we'll move on to city council comments and I'll ask city council members who are in the room, whether they have any comments first. Well, first of all, I'm sorry for being late to the meeting. I wasn't late as you know, I was logged on remotely, but I found out my computer does not work very well recently. So that being a side and so an issue came up a little while ago that had me thinking about the basis of how this city works. When I first became a city council member, I talked a lot about the fact that this is a democracy and everything zeroes in on the city council when it comes to certain kinds of decisions, anything especially dealing with policy. So I just want to reiterate that when things come to the city council that are controversial and I'm not going to mention the subject, but I believe there's someone in the remote audience listening. So I'm speaking to that person and others of this particular issue. City council makes that decision and that's the way it works in democracy and if it is a controversial decision, I'm sure that at that time city council will probably come up a way to figure out an alternate way to have public input, especially if it's very controversial and meets a lot of attention of the public. So that being said, that's our purpose. That's why we're elected and we take that role very seriously. The other thing is the last city council, someone came to us remotely and talked about a proposal of Monterey Park, which is right across the street from me. Kristen has involved herself in that and I as well. I've talked to my neighbors about this and I've talked to the person who made the proposal. I've talked to the mayor about this and also city staff. I think the issue that was brought up, which is to entertain the idea of having a small part of Monterey Park at a certain time of the day, set aside for dogs to run around freely. It's an issue fraught with many difficulties, but I think it should come to the city council for consideration. So I'd like to ask for it to be agendized. That's it. Okay. Yeah, council member Brown. Yeah. Well, council member Bertrand beat beat me to it or for the no together on this, I think. Well, I met with the interested parties and I believe you met with the interested parties, but we haven't spoken about it. But I think, you know, you just asked for the agenda item that I was going to ask for. So that's good to hear. And then other than that, I'm just, I'm happy to be back in chambers with my fellow council members and staff and really just want to take a moment to say thank you so much to staff for all that they've done for these last two years to make sure that we kept everything running smoothly during the pandemic and all that you're doing now to keep us running smoothly in a new way in the endemic, I guess you could call it. So that's all the comment. Don't ask me. Yes. He's looking at you though. Yeah. I'm done. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Go ahead, John. So I'd like to make another comment. I do follow a protocol and I am polite to my regular city council members. There's a thing called the Brown rule and I knew that she has already talked to people involved in this and I cannot talk there because I talked with Sam already on the issue about two weeks, maybe three weeks ago. I can't remember right now. So I'm precluded from talking with Kristen, Ms. Brown on this issue. Okay. Thank you for that clarification. Anything else? Okay. Did council members on Zoom have any comments? No comments on Zoom. I just have one comment. I would also like to ask that we add to our next agenda a presentation from Santa Cruz City Schools concerning their bond measures L and K and maybe staff could reach out to Chris Monroe and let them know and to give us a presentation for the council's consideration at that time. And there being no other council comments, we'll now move on to the consent items which I had mentioned previously. So before we do that, I'll ask whether any council members wish to pull a consent item for further discussion. Seeing none from the room. Yeah. And seeing none though, I do would like to pull item D, which is the over the street banner policy update. And yeah, it's not just a simple question. So I think I'm going to move it to general government business. And I'll ask was, is there anyone here that wanted to speak to our speak on that item? And do we have anyone on Zoom that wants? So I'm going to move that item to the end of the agenda then. So it will be item G. With that, I'll entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda. So moved. Second. So there's a motion by council member Brown, seconded by council member Bertrand. I'll ask for a roll call vote. Council member Bertrand. I agree. Council member Brown. Aye. Vice mayor Kaiser. Thank you. Mayor Story. Aye. So that motion passes unanimously. We'll now go on to general government public hearings for this evening. The first item is eight a and that item is to appoint representatives to the historical museum board. The recommended action is to appoint two representatives to the historical museum board. Can we have a staff report, please? Hi. Thank you, Mayor Story. Give me one second to share my slides, direct slides on the big, okay, great. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor and Council. It's nice to see you all in person and on the big screen. This will be a quick item. We're doing the historical museum board appointments. There was an extended recruitment that ended on June 23rd. We received three applications from the people listed here, John Compton, Mary Hay, and John Murray. There is a full term vacancy and one partial term vacancy currently. So there's two seats that we're looking to fill. The board, the historical museum board, did recommend to appoint Mary Hay to that full term and John Murray to the term that ends in June 2024. And they did note that John Compton was given information on how to volunteer with the museum. And tonight your action is, excuse me, this isn't moving forward. It's fairly simple. It is to appoint members to the historical museum board, just a reminder. So there's two seats and there were the three applicants. So I will wait for your determination. Thank you. Thank you, Chloe. Absolutely. Are there questions from council members at this time? I have some questions. Yeah. Is the museum board one of our boards and commissions that are required to sign and follow the code of conduct that the council, I know council and planning commission does the board as well. Yes, all of our boards and commissions do. Okay. And does the board, the museum, it's been a long time since I was on the museum board. Do they have essentially unmitigated authorization to change their board members at any time regardless of their reason? Do they have the, do they have the rights to determine if a board member continues to be a good fit at any given time? The city council has that authority. But the board doesn't. The board, the, I guess what I'm saying is if the museum board members themselves determine that a trustee is not a good fit after appointment, do they have the right to remove them or does it have to come back to council? It would have to come back to council. It would. Okay. So they would have to request it. Correct. Okay. Those are my questions. Thank you. You had no questions? No, I do not. Okay. I believe council member, excuse me, Vice Mayor Kaiser has her hand up on Zoom. Yeah, thank you. I was just wondering if there's sort of a, are we on a time crunch as far as appointing people for the board? I know there's been, we have been on a ton of applicants, so I'm just wondering if we're running out of time, if there is a deadline or if this is something that maybe could come back at a later date? Sure. Vice Mayor Kaiser, there's actually no legal requirement for you, for the council to fill this position tonight. If there is interest on the council, we could ask staff to continue to advertise the position and bring back whatever further applications we receive at a later date. Great. Thank you so much. Did Vice Mayor Kaiser, was that the end of your questions on the report? It is. Thank you. Just making sure. So with that, I'll see if there's any members of the public that would like to address the council on this item. Seeing none, I'll ask, do we have any members or anyone on Zoom that would like to speak to the council on this item? I don't think. Well, I'll bring it back to council for further deliberation and possible action. Who would like to begin? Council Member Bertrand? Yes. Usually we support the nominations of the stark board and I am disposed to do the same. I did talk to a fellow council person about this and also I talked to a member, current member of the board, one that I've known for quite some time and it's been a very heavily volunteering person in Capitola and I respect his opinion quite a bit. So I had some insight in terms of the interviews and some insight in terms of how that went and based on that, I would like to agree with this nomination and move that we accept what the historic board has recommended to us. Mary Hay, I know very well. She's been very involved for a long time. John, I do not, but he seemed to come off in the interview fairly well, has a lot of energy, wants to recruit younger people, which is something that I think the museum board could use. So all in all, this is the reason why I support this nomination. Okay. So that's a motion by Council Member Bertrand to accept the staff recommendation. Is there a second? I'll second. There's a second to the motion by Council Member Brown and I'll call for a roll call vote. Can I make quick comments on this item? Certainly. Yeah, I've heard really good things about Mary. I think she's going to be a fantastic board member and I put my faith in the museum board having formerly been a trustee in making the best decisions for their board. That's all I have to say. Thank you. All right. Thank you. With that, I'll call for a roll call vote. Oh, excuse me. Thank you. Yeah, Vice Mayor Keiser. Thanks. Yeah, I just wanted to comment before roll call. I appreciate the museum board going forward with these interviews and I know it can be a thrilling process and it's hard when the pool isn't as large as we like to pull from. So I just want to go to the main point and be mindful of our close conduct for the city and keep the city in our best interest. And thank you guys for all the hard work that you do. Appreciate it. All right. Thank you. So we'll go ahead with roll call vote then. Council Member Bertrand. I agree. Council Member Brown. I. Vice Mayor Keiser. And Mayor Story. Aye. The motion passes unanimously, which will bring us now to item 8B. This is to consider resolution except in the grant in the amount of $19,304.88 from the Department of Alcohol Beverage Control Alcohol Policing Partnership Program and to authorize the police chief to execute the grant agreement and authorizing the finance director to amend the 2022-23 fiscal year city budget by $19,304.88. Hello. Hello, Chief. You're going to give us the staff report on this? What I'm going to do is I'm going to say thank you for welcome to say everyone. Thank you for your time this evening, Mayor, Council. It's an honor to be back in person. We really appreciate that. So with that, you're going to, Captain Ryan's going to do a PowerPoint presentation to talk about an ABC grant opportunity that we have in front of us. So I just want to say hello to everyone and I'm going to pass it over to Captain Ryan real quick. All right. Great. Thank you. Thank you. Excuse me. Sorry. Everyone left in the audience. Good evening, Mayor Story, Council members and staff. Thanks for letting me present this to you and for taking an interest in this endeavor that we want to take on. So some several months ago, we put in for this alcohol policing partnership grant and the, sorry, technical difficulties. Thank you. Excuse me. So the background of this grant, we've had it in the past in 2019 and 2020. We submit to ABC that we have a need for this grant to address alcohol related crimes and to keep our alcohol establishments in compliance with ABC and to be good bit partners throughout the city. We applied for this grant again for 2022 to 2023. It's in the amount, as you can see up there, of $19,305 and some change. The objective of the grant is to educate and improve compliance and really to address underage alcohol violations. We partner with ABC, provide them with a schedule. They come down and they work with us. We have a supervisor assigned and several officers to go out and do education. The way this happens is, as you can see, the bullet points there are the stipulations of the grant. We have to meet these various stipulations. I could definitely explain them further offline if you had a lot of questions about them. But we address on sale, minor decoy operations, so selling alcohol to minors in a restaurant bar establishment, off sale, which would include liquor stores and grocery stores, shoulder tap operations. That's pretty self-explanatory when juveniles are asking adults to buy them alcohol. Then we do impact operations where we go in and we make sure that the places is alcohol selling establishments are not doing any improper advertising. It's clean. They're operating within ABC standards. Then we do training, lead training with the establishment so that they get, they can offer training to their employees for further compliance, because that's the overall objective, is to have compliance. Then party patrol. This was a new one that hasn't been in the past, but going out and when we, for example, holiday season, young people are home from college, maybe underage drinking is happening. Just being mindful and aware and doing a lot of education outreach through that in that way. My recommendation tonight, our recommendation is asking the City Council to adopt this resolution of $19,304.88 to be exact and authorizing the police chief to execute this grant in our agreement with ABC so we can move forward with our planned operations. Do you have any questions? I don't, but council members may. I would assume they have questions. Maybe my blank, my blank, lead training. I should have been prepared for that entire acronym, but it is basically, what it is, is it's a four-hour training we offer to the staff. In fact, you'd be happy to know that a lot of our restaurants and bars historically have taken advantage of it. We open up the community room, bring a member in from ABC, and they go over false IDs, what the regulations are around over-serving. They talk about, help to develop people's skill set in cutting people off, partnering with the police department to make sure that we're not over-serving people. That's essentially what it is. They come in and we offer the space and do the outreach to our businesses, but ABC will come and do the training. I think you do this in conjunction, not the lead training, but the TAP program and other things with the explorers group, correct? We do. Can you explain what the explorers group is to the public? What the explorers group is? Those are minors who are historically interested in law enforcement or the criminal justice world in general, and they're wanting to explore that, explorers. We actually bring them in through an interview process and do a background with them and start to bring them in if it's a good fit. They will often partner with us to then do the minor decoy operations. We also have a partnership with the Watsonville cadet program. They have a very thriving cadet program. They call them cadets. We call them explorers, but they're essentially the same. They're very skilled at coming and doing these operations with ABC as well. So I ask that question for a single purpose. We do have a very active explorers program, and I've noted that several people in that explorers program have gone on in career policing. I think what Captel is doing is very good in that regard. It offers a chance for you to learn what this career path could afford them as they grow older and want a career and stuff like that. So I think it's a good thing we're participating in. The next question is when my daughter was at Rabbit Elementary in the school system here, she loved it when the police came in and talked about various issues. Do you have a program, I guess it's probably appropriate for New Brighton to explain the issues about drinking, underage drinking, and the issues involved? We do. We do outreach and partnership with New Brighton Middle School in particular. However, it would be an aside to this grant. That's not the purpose of the grant. The grant is really to partner with the businesses and licensees. Okay, I did not know. Thanks. The questions from other council members? Yeah, Vice Mayor Keiser, any questions? Okay. Seeing no other questions, does any member of the public wish to address the council on this item? Seeing none. Do we have anyone on Zoom that would like to address the council on this item? Okay. I'll bring it back to the council. And I just want to, Captain Ryan, just congratulations and chief on bringing this grant source to us to work with the businesses to steer minors away from drinking and really, I think, going down a bad path and to intercept them and help them when they're young. We'll put them on the right track. And so congratulations again for bringing this to us and our opportunity to vote on it and hopefully pass it. Can I just add one comment, too, that I forgot to mention? I think it would be important to mention that in managing this grant, the fact that we have our records analyst position, again, she and I attended the conference to, it was a requirement as recipients of the grant. And so I'm really excited about having that partnership to hold up, to keep us accountable and to be that conduit between ourselves and ABC. So. Absolutely. With that, I'll bring it back to the council for any further comments to the discussions or a potential vote on the item. I'll move approval of the recommended action. All second. There's a motion by council member Brown seconded by council member Bertrand to approve the staff recommendation. And I'll call for a roll call vote. Council member Bertrand. I agree. Council member Brown vice mayor Kaiser. Mayor story. I that motion passes unanimously, which brings us to item C, which is community grant subcommittee. And this item, the recommended action is to appoint two council members to a subcommittee to review applications for the 2022 23 community grant program. And before we get into the staff report on this item, I did, I'm going to recuse myself and disclose that, you know, my wife works for the community action board, which is a nonprofit, which has been an applicant to the community grants program. So for that reason, I'm going to recuse myself and I'm going to ask vice mayor Kaiser if she'll run this item on the agenda. Thank you. Vice mayor Kaiser, I think I need to note as well that I it's been determined that I am not required to recuse, but I would like to note that I'm a non compensated board member of the community action board of Santa Cruz County, which is involved in this community grants program. So I just wanted to make that statement before we get started as well. Great. Thank you for informing. This is give me a second here to share my screen. All right. So vice mayor council members, this item is before you today to consider forming a subcommittee to review the community grant applications for the upcoming community grant cycle. You will, we'll recall that during the budget this year, we appropriated $125,000 for general fund community grants as well as $61,000 in our dedicated youth and early childhood education program that does come in addition to the CDBG funding that the city is providing to a number of other nonprofits in our community. The application period closed on August 15th and we got 23 applications. You will recall that this will be the first year of us implementing the program after some recent program changes that the city council made included shifting to a three year grant cycle and establishing specific funding categories for which the grant recipients would be applying for and then establishing different grant types, both sort of more administrative grants and more project oriented grants. So with that, I will also remind council that two members do have conflicts associated with one of the nonprofits who have applied. Mayor's story is obviously recused and council member Brooks also has a conflict. So a recommendation this evening would be to point to council members to a subcommittee to review the applications we received and then ultimately make a recommendation to the full council regarding community grant recipients for the next cycle. And with that, I'm available for questions. Vice mayor, I have a question. So my question. Thank you. My question is of staff and so when would the report have to be done and presented to the city council? So we don't have a firm deadline. My goal would be to get it done in the next, let's just say two to three weeks and then be able to bring it to the second meeting in that would be September, but it certainly could go to the first meeting in October if necessary. Okay, because I do term out in November, I mean December and I wanted to be a part of this, but if it was going to extend into the rest of the year, I could not be on it. The award will certainly take place during your term. I will note that it is at the three year grant cycle. So the awards will take place both this fiscal year and then presumably for the next two beyond. Okay. Thank you. Anybody there? Anyone wish to address the council on this item? You have no comments in the room. And no one has their hand raised. Vice mayor Kaiser. Anybody on Zoom? I might have missed a lot. So that could be good. No one with their hand raised on Zoom. Thank you, Vice Mayor Kaiser. Perfect. Thank you. We can go back to deliberation or any council comments as far as the committee? Yeah, I have some comments if I might, Vice Mayor. Thank you. This is something that I've been involved in and interested in in regard to our community grant and changing the way our community grant program is run and determining who gets funding and how. And it's something that Councilwoman Brooks and I were a part of in terms of kind of looking at the way that we want to do this differently that we have in the past. So I'd like to continue to be a part of this on this new subcommittee. And I would ask if you are interested with you becoming our mayor next year, I think it would be an exciting opportunity for you to also be a part of looking at this new process of our community grant. So I would certainly be interested in being a part of it. And my, I don't know if it'd be an ask or a suggestion would would also be to recommend that you also join, if I may be so bold. I appreciate that. Jacques and I were on the subcommittee last go round. And I think, you know, we've for instance, quite a bit of time thinking of a way to go about monetary amounts and or raises or whatnot or new people applying and work with Janie and Jim and stuff. And I think when we ended up bringing back to council, it got a little muddy. And so I'm hoping that in this next term, we could maybe figure out a way where the effort that's being putting is being brought back to the council and is actually looked at as the way to go. And I'm super stoked and happy to work with you on this for sure. I just want to make sure we're putting in the work and then not getting it completely roundhouse and not effective if we're going to spend time on it. Yeah, that's understandable. I'll make a comment. Yeah. Yeah. So that may be a good combination you since you and I worked on the last one. And Kristen has some ideas that she would like to go forward with and being that I won't be on the council for the next two or three years. So I agree with that. I think that would be great. Thank you. And she's wonderful to work with. So far so good. Yeah. I'm just kidding. Okay. So I'll move that we accept Kristen, okay, and Margo. I don't know if we have to make a motion to do that, but if that's the case, that's my motion. You don't need to make a motion. Okay. Did not know. Okay. Okay. We'll be on the committee for the looking forward to it. Yeah, thank you. And I think if that's all we need, then we can know. Oh, coming in the other door. Check. Close the door quickly. I was saying earlier, we need hold music for these pause. God causes. We do the awkward pause in the background. So thank you, Vice Mayor Kaiser, taking that on. So we'll go on to the next item, which is to consider the hybrid meeting administrative policy. The recommended action is to review draft policy and provide feedback. So City Manager, is that? Oh, yes, it's me again. One second here. Chloe, before you get started, do you want to maybe move your mic a little bit closer to make sure? You know, I think Larry turned my mic off because I'm too loud. What about this one? That is much better. Okay. My typing is much too aggressive. One moment because my slides, I know, don't look quite right, but you can all hear me better. Okay. Oh, no. I'm so sorry. It was correct. Okay. Thank you, Mayor and Council. I'll just keep this brief and keep in mind this is our first hybrid meeting, so this item is very timely. Last meeting on July 28th, you gave direction on the content to include in an administrative policy that draft was included in the agenda packet. So I'm hoping you had time to review it. As you'll know, you determined that for Council attendance, you wanted to see at least one, but not more than three Council members in person at our meetings here, and that the members should self-determine who was going to attend in which capacity. And also recommended a standing agenda item to close out the night for Council to determine and to communicate to staff who would be attending virtually and who would be attending in person. And then the other recommendations we received were to include COVID precautions in that policy. You'll notice we did block off every other row here. We have masks recommended, and the community room is also open as kind of an overflow room along with some air filters and the doors being open to promote some safety here. So that was all included in the draft policy. Really, your recommendation now is to kind of having gone through a meeting now, give it some thought and provide us feedback on the draft policy and on if there's any other additions or any corrections you've seen, you'd like us to know, and the idea being either the same draft or an amended draft will come back for your adoption on consent at the next meeting on September 8th. So that's really my presentation, and I'm curious what your thoughts are. Thank you. Thank you. Council members like to give some feedback? I just have a question. I can't remember if we discussed at the last, when we started to put this together, if we had discussed or determined that it wasn't necessary to discuss, if we were going to continue to have the option of the public comment that's emailed in and then read during the meeting, or if we did away with that and had it be more of like that we'll join the agenda packet, and now the options are Zoom and in person. Is that correct? Okay. Just wanted to clarify. Thank you. Okay. Council member, any feedback on, yeah? Okay. City Manager? Now that we are halfway through our first meeting, I do think that there's a potential other addition to this policy that we may want to consider, which is something we would need to work on with the attorneys, but what happens if the Zoom isn't working and whether or not we can incorporate that into our policy and not be forced to entirely cancel the meeting, but maybe be able to continue the meeting in person. So if that, if Council would support something along those lines, we would have to work with the attorneys, I think, to figure out how much flexibility there is in that regard. But just as we were prepping for this, I was realizing that it'd be challenging, I think it'd be frustrating for everybody who's maybe here and prepared for the meeting if Zoom crashed, if we had to cancel. So with your permission, I'd like to add that to the final policy that we bring back next meeting, kind of delineate what happens in that situation. Yeah, I think that would be very prudent to kind of anticipate, you know, when those, you know, shutdowns will happen because, you know, the hybrid model is meant to be, in essence, a permanent ongoing structure. So I feel like it's inevitable that it's going to happen, that the technology is going to either shut down for short periods of long periods. And I think anticipating that and knowing in advance how we're going to handle it, I think will help us get through instead of just scrambling and making decisions in the moment at that time. So I would certainly appreciate that. And I think for future councils, it would be important to have that. And are there other, were there other feedbacks that the council members wanted to give? Vice Mayor Kizer, did you have any feedback or you? No, I appreciate staff coming together and figuring out even how to do this. Because it's a way beyond my scope of understanding. So I appreciate it. I think as one of our community members spoke of earlier, it is nice to be able to have both options. I hope that people feel they can still be connected, even if they're not coming to chambers. So thank you staff for getting everything worked out where everybody can be accessible. Okay, thank you. And just maybe a couple of thoughts I had. And one came up when the question of public comments on the consent agenda and realizing that the public didn't have access to the consent agenda. And so I don't know if that's a public policy issue. It may be good to make note of it just so that everyone is aware that that should be available. But I saw wondering, you know, the folks who are out on Zoom, if they have directions and instructions how they can access the agenda or whether it's shared with them on the screen in some manner. Because I don't know that they would always have this. But if there's some way that they could pull it up as they're in the moment. And so just I think for, you know, just maybe future planning and trying to be fully transparent with the public about what our agenda items are. And then I think the last comment, I mean, and I would, I know that the limitation of three council members was, you know, I think it's prudent now. And it was, you know, at the time, you know, when we discussed this, it was because Omicron was actually kind of escalating there in the mid of the summer. But to me that that was for a particular, you know, cause, which I don't know is going to persist. So I would hope that that would be something that would eventually sunset out. And that there'd be some thought about what metric do we use and to make that decision. And, you know, it's really not, it's going to be up to the new council members how they want to address that particular question of how many council members should be at this dais and whether there should be a permanent structure of having only three. But for the moment, you know, I think that we were doing it out of abundance of caution. And we can do that. But I would hope that there would be some thought to, at some point, phasing out of that. So those are just my comments on our policy. But I would have to say that, you know, I think so far it's actually run pretty well. And I know that you guys, we didn't see what was going on behind the screen leading up to it. And I think that's a tribute to what staff has done to even get us to this point. And to be able to incorporate the zoom, you know, and the in person meeting. So, so with that, I'll see the council members have any other follow ups or yes, council member of your train. My computer doesn't seem to work very well. So the interaction with this particular program, I'm not too sure. So last minute thing, I couldn't come. So I try to do remote. So there could be extensions, you know, circumstances like that where might even end up before here or something like that. So if that's not a problem, it's our, you know, policy. Well, but I think that I mean, currently the way the policy is written that that would be an issue. And so I think that we would have to try to coordinate and plan ahead and make those determinations so that, you know, we're compliant with the current policy. But my just thought, I mean, I hope that we can transition out of that at some point and have some good, good, you know, you know, metrics for when that would happen. So if I can make a comment on that as well. Yeah, you know, I don't have a problem with the idea of having all five council members here at this point. I think as long as there's still the discretion for those who don't feel comfortable being here to continue to join on zoom. I think to your point, Mayor Story, when we were discussing this, the idea was to have only three of us with kind of some social distancing here. But I think that if all five council members are comfortable being here, then they should be able to be. But if that anyone should choose to continue to join on zoom that they have that opportunity either for their own health and safety concerns, or if someone tests positive, but is still healthy enough to join or feeling healthy enough to join virtually. But I don't have I don't have any issue with allowing all five council members to be here in chambers, even if we wanted if there was a consensus among council to make that change now, I'd be I'd be okay with that. Okay. Well, I certainly support that feedback and thank you for that. So if you're okay with that, maybe we can and yeah, Vice Mayor Kaiser, are you comfortable with that? Yeah, I mean, you're right. So maybe we could incorporate that update into the policy moving forward. We can do that. Okay. After you've done all that work. That's why we're here. Okay. With that, I'll, well, I think I do not believe I asked if members of the public would like to address us on this item. So I'll be sure to do that before we move on. Or is anyone from the audience want to address us? Is there anyone on zoom that maybe want to speak on this item? I do see a hand. Pardon me. I'm going to allow you to speak. Anna, you should be able to unmute yourself and then go ahead and speak. I'm not sure if this is the same policy that applies, but I'm thinking of council candidates that would have other reasons for attending meetings remotely for health or immune reasons. That would be helpful to the future of the council as well. Okay. Thank you for your comment, Anna. Anyone else, Chloe? Someone else with their hand up. Okay. Thank you. With that, I'm going to move us on then to item E, which is to designate the voting delegates and alternates for the 2022 League of California City's annual conference. Then the recommended action is to designate voting delegate and alternate if desired. Am I looking in the right direction? Okay. Thank you. I'm just going to do this verbally. So as I'm sure you're aware, the CalCities 2002 annual conference is coming up in September, on September 7th through 9th, and it is in long reach this year. So it's really at council discretion to make a delegate to determine which of you should be the voting delegate and if you'd like an alternate. So just let me know. I just need some consensus on that and I will let CalCities know. Thank you. The questions from council members on that. Yes, council member. I'm attending. Is anyone else attending? Not that I'm aware. Thank you. I guess I'm the delegate. You're the lucky one. Not yet. I'm the proposed delegate. Okay. That means you stay a lot longer at that conference. And is there anyone willing to volunteer to be the alternate? And just to clarify, you don't need an alternate unless you would like one. Okay. It's all right. You do need to be in person to vote. Yes. Okay. And so you will be there in person and we'll vote our interest. I purchased my. Oh, you're ready to go. Okay. Yeah. All right. So does anyone in the audience, which to speak on this item, seeing none, anyone on Zoom that would like to address this item? I'll bring it back. Is there, let's see. I think we need, do we need a motion on this designate? Do we need a motion on this? Why don't we do that just to make sure that the lead just I know that the lead does want the city to designate who it is. Okay. So is there a motion? I'll make a motion to appoint council member Bertrand as our designated voting delegate at the league of California city's annual conference. Is there a second? Okay. There's a motion by council member Brown and seconded by vice mayor Kaiser. I'll ask for a roll call vote. Council member Bertrand. I agree. Council member Brown. Aye. Vice mayor Kaiser. Aye. And mayor Story. Aye. Thank you. We expect a full report back on what happened there. I usually give reports, but people of interest. So if you want a verbal report here, I'll be glad to do that. No, that'd be nice. Yeah. So now we actually move to item F, which is the, well, in person council attendance is the determination of which council members will attend the next regularly scheduled council meeting in person and remotely. But I believe with the action that we just took that, that makes that item moot. I think that's correct. The council members agree with that. Vice mayor Kaiser. To clarify though, the council members still have the, the option to join virtually. They're not required to come in person. Okay. Yes. I'll be here. No, no, no. Yes. So our, our, does any member of the public, which should speak on this particular item? Any member in on zoom, which should speak on this? Oh, yes. Sorry. Yes. Please step up. Sounds like you'll have to agree that three of you will show up, right? Because there's a minimum of three, isn't there? You would still need to agree on who is going to come, but not. So it's kind of a similar process. Good point. Right. I don't believe that we actually do need to have three in the room, unless the council wants that to be a minimum. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Not, not currently right now under the emergency order that we're operating under. It says at least one and no more than three. I think that's what it was. Oh yeah. Good point. No, no, you know, there's a standing expectation that all council members are in attendance either here personally are in zoom at council meetings. And so, and this particular action was really prompted by, you know, we had previously determined that we only wanted three here in person, but those were because of COVID concerns. And so, you know, with the action that we just took to eliminate that and allow four or five or all of us to be here, if we so choose, I mean, but some could still be on zoom, but they would be allowed to be more than three here in person. So that that was, you know, the point of that particular agenda item. So you're welcome. Okay. So I don't think we need to take any action on that item, considering the preceding action that we took on the policy, which now brings us to the consent item that was pulled by myself. That was consent item D, which is now regular item G, which is the banner policy. And maybe just not to belabor the point, but the reason I pulled it in because in my one, in my reading of the policy, and I guess it, my reading of it, tell me if my interpretation is wrong, would no longer allow certain nonprofit groups, such as The Wharf, The Wharf, or the Capitol Sokiao Chamber, who puts on the Art and Wine Festival to be able to use the banners to advertise their events? So the changes that are proposed to the banner policy, previously, there was a lot of language in there that was maybe open to interpretation. And it talked about how the banners could be used for public information campaigns and wasn't necessarily clear who could do that. So the proposed change to the banner policy is to really true it up with best practice. And what it will effectively do is limit the banners to two groups. Number one is those who are holding special events with significant impacts in the community, which would include the two, both the Art and Wine Festival, as well as The Wharf to Wharf. Those are certainly major special events in the community, so they would continue to be able to do banners. And then in addition, public agency information campaigns. So for example, Learn to Read Week, or if the school district wanted to advertise that now is the time to sign your kit up for kindergarten, or RTC had a street smarts campaign, it would be available for those two things. So really it's about community notification for coming events, and then public agency information campaigns. And as pointed out in the staff report, staff went back and reviewed seven years worth of banners, and really all of the banners that were hung over that seven-year period fit in one of those two buckets. Okay, I'm glad to hear that. I mean, and that's good. Maybe I, you know, misunderstood it. But I just want to clarify in reading the actual amended administrative policy, the phrase non-profit groups is stricken, and it just says public agency may display street banners for community events and public information campaigns. And that's just the fact that we struck non-profit groups on the policy would mean that that the interpretation of that is that, you know, independent non-profits could not advertise their events. So this is under section three, specifications. Correct. I believe I have the specific language up on the screen. And my intent, and our intent behind that is that there's two types of banners. There's public agency banners, which are the educational street banners for community events, public information campaigns. And then period, separate approved special events that have significant impacts on the community may also display informational street banners. So there's essentially two classes of banners. There's the educational street banners, and then there's the informational street banners. Informational street banners are for the special events. And then the educational street banners are for the public agency, for public agencies, for community events, public information campaigns. We can clarify that if council would like, but that is certainly the intent is that there's these two classes, and then we go in further here to talk a little bit more about informational street banners for special events. They only include the event name, date and time. And then those banners may be enhanced by the addition of applicable graphics related to the event as approved. We can certainly clarify that point to make it 100% clear that approved special events by anybody. Right. Or whether it can be, I wasn't necessarily going so far to say anybody, but if there are non-profits who have approved permits, would be able to advertise on the banners. Yes, as well as for-profits. For example, we have the Capitola Marathon, which is put on. Right, right. I believe those are for-profit entities that put those on. Really, the intent behind the informational street banners is to let folks know that something is happening in the village. It's not intended to be an advertising vehicle or to thank sponsors, which sometimes we have seen from the banners, but it's really to let people know, hey, something is happening in the village this weekend. Okay. Well, I think it would be helpful to clarify that non-profits and for-profits may be able to use them for approved special events. Since kind of in the first sentence, we've stricken them from that part. Understood. And so having some clarification on that. I don't know if other council members have any input on that or thoughts. I mean, yes, council member Bertrand. Yeah, I had some issues with that too, and then I had to read it over a couple of times to sort of get to, I think, where Jamie is emphasizing. But I do have a question. So when another organization comes to us, whether it's for-profit or non-profit, to apply to be a special event, we approve that, correct? That's correct. There's two types of special events, the minor special events which are approved at a staff level. It would be rare that a minor special event would have significant impacts on the community and would need a banner. But it's possible. And then major special events, which by definition have significant impacts on the community, new major special events are approved by the city council. And then recurring major special events can be re-approved by staff on an annual basis provided there weren't significant impacts the prior year. Okay. So once we make that approval, they do have the option of doing a banner? That's correct. Basically, when the city issues, the police department issues a special event, let's just say, or the city council issues a special event for a bike race in town, with that approval would come the ability to hang a banner in advance of the event. Okay. So even for a minor, they have that possibility. The language here is for special events that have a significant impact on the community. And so, for example, well, Warf to Warf. Okay. Warf to Warf is a major. It has significant impacts, clearly. Okay. But even a minor one, I mean, it might be beneficial for them to get a banner. I don't know that we've ever done this, but... Like I said, the intent here is really to let the community know that something is happening and sort of alert them. They're really not intended to be sort of advertising, because if we get into the business of sort of advertising these events, then the question becomes, is it commercial, is it not commercial? So for example, if someone came to us with a special event, a minor special event, let's just say it's a paddle out. I'm not exactly sure what sort of community notification would be needed if there was a paddle out that was taking place on a Sunday morning, for example. Okay. Any other questions or comments on the policy? Any members of the public wish to comment on this item? Any members on Zoom wish to comment on this item? Sorry, I do not see any hands raised at this time. Okay. Thank you. I'll bring it back for, yes. So this would come back to us with that clarification, or can we put it in now that my question. It's certainly at your discretion. If the motion was to approve it with clarification that the SCP banners are allowed for SCPs that are run by nonprofits or for our profits, we can make that change. If you'd like it to come back, we can do that as well. Well, I think it would be appropriate just to include that modification in our action and then let staff run with it. So councilmember would like to make a motion on this item. We do need an approval. I'll move to approve the over the street banner policy update with the recommended modifications. I second. Okay. We have a motion is second. Can we have a roll call vote, please? Yes. Councilmember Bertrand. I agree. Councilmember Brown. Aye. Vice mayor Kaiser. Mayor Story. Aye. And the motion passes unanimously, which would brings us to adjournment this evening. And so I will adjourn this meeting of the Capitol City Council to our next regular scheduled meeting on September the 8th at 7pm in these city hall chambers and on a computer near you. So thank you everyone. Thank you staff very much for pulling this together. I think it went mostly very well. Goodbye. Are we off recording now? Okay. Well, the fat is taking bets on how many of us could show up five or three or two? Yeah.