 So we are going to delve into that, special realities and how consciousness is back to that. Now alternates mind therapy. What does that mean? Alternative mind therapy means, like you know there are conventional ways of looking at mental health. Conventional ways of looking at mental health means you can go through a psychology who will start human behavior and understand why those things you are going through, why they happen like that. Alternative mind therapy means, I am going to explain to you the genesis of your problems from the root that is spirit. Making you understand that you are both spiritual, you are spirit and in your spirit you have a soul. Now if I define for you what the soul is, which is where the mind is and I begin to show you where that problems came from because you know all the problems we face in alternate consciousness we believe that they generated or they started from the fall of man. Because God created man from a light matter. A light matter means he was created without any negative energy. But when the fall came that light matter was joined with dark matter. And that dark matter made man begin to partake of the food they called the tree of the good and evil. And that is where the problems of man began. Because you have duality that is number one informed by light but again contaminated by darkness. So all the problems of humanity when you are dealing with alternative mind therapy we begin to tell you that in your original creation how God created you, your original existence. You are created to perform and to function in perfection. God never created you to work in worry. God never created you to work in fear or guilt or condemnation or discouragement or despair or the things that trouble humanity. That was not the original plan. But when dark matter joined light matter through the fall of man man began now to operate within this duality that is called both good and evil. So we teach and I teach in alternative mind therapy that you need to come from what is called an altered state of consciousness. And an altered state of consciousness means you are operating outside the plan that God created you to operate in. Like I've told you God never anticipated you to work in fear or to operate in fear. And yet we know that fear is a thought and fear rules the lives of people. I would tell you also that God never operated and wanted you to operate in anxiety but people live in anxiety all through their life. But in alternative mind therapy I teach you how to work away from fear, how to work away from anxiety, how to work away from discouragement and these are real issues. Personally I have worked in that life. I do not have fear, I have no anxiety, I have never woken up discouraged. You can work away from that by the way. Nothing travels you. You've never heard anxiety when you're going. Never. You do not panic at all. Never, never. Life is natural for me by the way. And it's a consciousness. That's why I'm telling you life revolves around consciousness. If you're able to step into this consciousness that is called Christ consciousness that teaches you that your original identity was perfection until dark matter joined with the light matter that was created in you. And that is why Jesus Christ came. You begin to awaken like a flower. You see? To your original reality of who you're supposed to be. And that's how I overcame fear, anxiety. I don't wake up discouraged. I lost contact with all those things. And by the way it's a true reality. My goodness. How I would love to be at that stage. Let's take us now from the genesis of it. You mentioned for people that do not believe this or have never heard of the three states mind, soul and spirit. So tell us a little bit about that. And then you get to the consciousness. Okay. Now you know very well that the way God created man is in three versions. Man has a body. Man is a spirit. And man also has a soul. So we say this. This is how we define it. Man is quintessentially a spirit or foundationally a spirit because God is a spirit. Because God said let us create man in our image, in our own likeness. And God is not physical. That's why God is not fat. God is not thin. God is not black. God is not white. God is not tall. God is not green. None of those things. God is a spirit. So quintessentially a man was created a spirit. But God also gave you a soul to function. And soul gives you personality. You are the personality that soul gives you. Because the soul is where the mind is. The soul is where the emotions are. The soul is where the will is. And that's why soul reformation is important. Number three, there is now the body. And a body we say, a body is a vibration of the frequencies that are operating between your soul and the spirit. So that whenever I see you in a certain vibration in your body I can tell very well what you're thinking in your mind. And that is the beauty of it. You can change frequencies as you will. Like you're changing frequencies today. You can. You can actually wake up low in 15 minutes Yes. That's the beauty of this reality. So when you understand the genesis of who you are as a spirit quintessentially or foundationally then you have a soul which has the mind, which has the will and the emotions and then the body is a vibration of those two. You can begin to understand how now to awaken yourself. Okay. Now how do you awaken yourself? Now the journey of awakening fast and foremost needs to understand that there is a place of truth. You see, you cannot just awaken for me anything because we believe and I told you that life is based on consciousness. Everything in life is thought. Everything in life is thought. You know there is one prophet in the Bible he loves so much called Jeremiah and after God had called him and anointed him and declared a mandate for his life and told him, I want you to go, approved, overthrew, overcome and then you build and you plant. That was a mandate. Then after that shortly before he started doing his ministry God brought a vision to him in verse Jeremiah chapter 1 verse 12 there but you'll see the story. Then this vision, the God that has anointed you the God that has called you a prophet the God that knows he has opened your eyes brings towards a vision for you and he asked Jeremiah, Jeremiah, what can you see? You see? And what was God testing? God wanted to understand whether this man has really configured understood what his mind was. So Jeremiah said, I can see the vision of the Al-Muntri. Do you know what God told him? He told him, you have seen well. You have seen well. I therefore will hasten to perform my word. The problem we have in life is picking consciousness and you cannot be able to change your vibration until you are able to pick your consciousness. I can ask you today, what are you seeing in your life? What are you seeing in your life? What is the consciousness? So the first place to change your consciousness is a place called the truth. Choosing your consciousness. There are many consciousness but there is Hindu consciousness, Islamic consciousness, there is anthology, there is Mormonism, there is a lot of consciousness. But me I chose the consciousness of Jesus Christ. So the journey to awakening starts with picking a consciousness and you need to understand the consciousness. For example, why I chose the consciousness that is called Jesus Christ. Jesus said in the book of John chapter 14 verse 6, I am the way, the truth and the life. You see? And then he says, you shall know the truth in John chapter 8 verse 32. He says, you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. Now truth is not a study. Truth is a person called Jesus Christ. He is immortal and celestial light that God gives to humanity to awaken them. So I chose Jesus because he says, I am the light. And you know, he is very specific. When he says, I am the light, the is a definite article. He is telling you there is no other light. This is a light. So I chose that consciousness and I started to engage, I started to interact. I started to open myself to it and lo and behold, it was a river that was so, so, so beautiful for me. You see? And that's how you start your journey of awakening. You must choose your consciousness. So you choose your consciousness fast. Yes. Now you choose Jesus. Yes. And then now after that, what happens? You begin to interact with that truth. Number two, let me tell you. I tell people many times one of the foundational things that we have never been told and which is very important, which happens in the natural but never happens in the spirit when we grow up. Like for example, when you are born, somebody took care of you. You see? Matters of consciousness are a bit complex because when I talk about the consciousness of Jesus Christ, I will delve into many, many things. So what you need, number two, after identifying a consciousness, you need a mentor, a spiritual teacher who can teach you, who can show you how to engage in that truth. You see? Now, you know, let me ask you something. Everybody in Kenya knows there's so many churches. I hear in Kenya they are, I mean, they are like business and they are from many world. Every other day there's a church review. And yet, there are people who are mentioning the name of Jesus but they are pushing people into darkness, isn't it? There are people who are mentioning the name of Jesus but what they are saying to people is fear, is worry, is anxiety, is poverty, I mean is bondage, is captivity, is slavery. And yet they are mentioning the same Jesus. You see? So what will distinguish you from this person that is being taken care of to buying keys or to buying brooms or to buying all this nonsense shenanigans that is happening on to a life of a consciousness where you are consciously aware of the freedom and the liberty that is Jesus Christ. Who is this person that is going to guide in that truth? That is where we come in, a spiritual guide, a spiritual mentor, somebody who can teach you on this consciousness. And that is why I'm telling you I'm building a curriculum for this so that when I give you that book when I give you that whole manual you can interact with my thoughts in the book and know how to navigate through till the end. So you need to pick that consciousness and number two, have a man, a mentee, a mentor who can be able to guide you through that. That is how it happens. That's pretty much it. Yes, yes. Plus there are many other tools that God has given us but all of them, by the way this is the tool that God has given you. It will also depend that it will also require for somebody to help you for a few times. Like for example, there is a powerful tool that God gave us which is called the Holy Spirit. And the Holy Spirit is the Bible says he reveals the truth and is given to us as a gift by God. Was given to us to reveal and to make us know all the truth. But again you know, until you are taught on the dimensions of the spirit it's very easy for you to get lost in between there. So you need a spiritual teacher to guide you there, a mentor. And that's why I'm building this thing for that particular purpose. Before the interview off air you had mentioned that there's a disconnect between now when people go to church and Sunday people even stay in church the whole weekend for others. But there's no manifestation in life. Yet the Bible has promises but it's not manifesting. So where's the disconnect? Let me tell you something and I find this very interesting by the way. You know why science beats church? Do you know why science is more appealing than the church, than the Bible? Because science is empirical. When we say empirical we say one plus one is equal to two. Whether you're in America, in Jamaica in whatever you are in Afghanistan if you do one plus one is two if you took a scientific formula and put it on work it will function the same way wherever. But when you come into the matters of the spirit there's a lot of inconsistencies. You can hear a word somebody will hear a word and both of you will have different results or never have those results. So I looked at that inconsistency and I began to ask myself what is the inconsistency here? Why is it that the word of God is true the way it is proclaimed? Why is it that people believe in God and love God and follow God? But why is it that somebody can be following God for 50 years, 30 years believing one word and they have never seen that word? I began to see the inconsistency. The inconsistency was in how the consciousness is formed in them. You see, there is I don't know whether we have time but there is one danger that has kept men in captivity for as long and that is a thing that brings all these inconsistencies. It is called the law. The law. The law, the way we were you know let me tell you something when we were born from the time you were born to the where you were you've been hearing information there has been sound coming into your life. Now that information has formed part of your consciousness because we are schooled and socialized in the law do not touch, do not go do not sit there do not be amongst those people do not involve yourself in that don't, don't, don't, don't so that becomes part of your paradigm and a paradigm means a way of living it becomes your way of life. Now that becoming the way of life it forms in your subconsciousness that life is supposed to be lived like that. So if you found a problem or we are in a place and all of us found a problem we are both five and then we encounter a problem do you know because of our socialization and schooling we will behave in the same one in the same manner in the same way why? because we were brought into a school into a way of thinking by the law that shows us that if you want to get out of this problem you have to follow this particular path but now that is where the problem is because when God created you and that is where Jesus Christ came He never wanted you to function in the law So many people have this inconsistencies because they believe there is something they can do they believe there is something inside themselves that they can be able to do to alter the causes of their life which there is nothing there is nothing they can do for consciousness all you need to do in a consciousness is to believe it to understand it and to flow in it but many people are still stuck in what was taught in class 2 let me ask you today a very simple question if today you are told that you are going to fly to the US tomorrow morning what will you do? if I'm told that I'm going to fly tomorrow morning yes the US as where you are and just be honest where you are right now what would you do I'm sure it would be on IG I'm sure of course I'd call everyone I'm sure we'll find you in town looking for the best dress the best shoe I mean telling yes but do you know there are people if you tell them they are going to the US tomorrow the flight is going to be at maybe 9 they will be waking up at 7 it's not a bother but for you you prepare for a whole week what is the difference and you are going to the same destination it's consciousness to you you are excited it is a new experience you have never heard it but if somebody who have heard it until what is this thing kawaii da it's consciousness even in life when I'm telling people ask yourself why is it that you are afraid what makes you afraid why are you afraid because you know you are afraid because you have been taught things that tell you once you get to this place and there is no answer to this thing this is the end of you and that is what I call in deeper terms when I'm teaching about these things it is called a dominant cosmos narrative a dominant cosmos narrative means the thought the mind that is ruling the life of people consistently as in if you wake up in the morning that thought will control how you think that thought will control your decision that thought will control everything that you do it's called a dominant cosmos narrative and that is what is ruling people and it is called the law but when I teach you to operate outside the cosmos a dominant cosmos narrative then you begin to enjoy the freedom that comes to know that you can enjoy the air that God has given you the joy of God will be upon your life and it is for me it's very fascinating by the way I'm very curious how do you then break away from the law what have been programmed since we were children because we are believers I'm a believer in God but the instances where you get fearful the instances where I get anxiety so how do I then break from that law let me tell you have you had something called awakening awakening many people are talking about awakening and as I'm telling you there are many consciousnesses but let me tell you for you to begin to break from the law you need to begin to experience what is called awakening you know what is an awakening an awakening is an encounter of a higher consciousness you begin to understand yourself and being define yourself differently from how you have been defined before so it is something you also need to hear for example I'm telling you right now if I told you that in the mind of God according to God there is nothing like problems in you there is nothing like difficult there is nothing like joblessness there is nothing like pain if I begin to tell you like this to you something in your spirit will begin to give in because all these things that you have known which I am calling the altered states of consciousness like fear like doubt like unbelief like what we call guilt which people are suffering from and condemnation and by the way all the people that are suffering from condemnation and guilt that is something you can walk away you are fighting a battle that has already been won yet it is not your battle walk away from that battle God never mentioned or wanted you to live in that state you know so for you what you need to do is to begin to embrace this newness that only you can do with the law you know for Paul let me tell you something you know Paul, Apostle Paul you told me a believer do you know Apostle Paul was so much in the law he became a professor in the law he was teacher of the law he knew he was persecuting people killing people with a zeal knowing that he is pleasing God because of the law but what happened to him when we met Jesus what happened to him he became free he became blind fast and then he was opened his eyes and then he started interacting the consciousness of Jesus Christ he became a totally freed man now that encounter Paul had with Jesus Christ is what I call awakening some people call it epiphany psychologists call it cognitive dissonance moments you know a cognitive dissonance moment is you are walking in a journey to a certain direction then you encounter a truth that makes you to turn 180 degrees towards another direction so that is what you require you need a point of contact where you begin to look at the weight the burden, the tiresomeness of the law and begin to look at the freedom that is promised by Jesus Christ through his consciousness and begin to understand you are formed after Jesus so why would you be dealing with the law so it's just a belief it is a belief and it is so pumped in you it has formed your consciousness it becomes a reality yes like for example when you are dealing with somebody who has rejection what is rejection why are you denying yourself why are you rejecting yourself okay so people usually say the spirit of rejection is following me you can call it demon you can call it ancestors you can call it anything but let me tell you the thing can be it is you that is self rejecting yourself because of the law let me tell you you grew up being told you can't do this statement that has been going on those were the things that people have been told you can't be anything you cannot become anything so you are pumped being shown that you are small you are limited you cannot be but God in his original creation do you know let me say this I am going to say this on air because this is a discussion we are having and that's why I tell people this is the beginning of trying to think higher than yourself when we came here on this earth biology teaches us that we were competing with over millions of other people who were trying to compete to enter this realm through our force that's biology and you know what I'm talking about so let me ask you what do you do for you to succeed to defeat the others did you even know yourself did you know that you existed so how did you defeat millions of others for you to enter this planet somebody guided you here and he guided you because he wanted you to live a certain way and he knew you before you arrived here that's why he gave you all the favors opened all the gates for you to arrive before everybody you get so once you begin to understand that you are a divine plan you are a product of a divine orchestration you are coming from a higher order and you are not supposed to be here controlled by the environment by philosophy, traditions, cultures of men and you are only supposed to be defined by the philosophy of Christ which gives you liberty and truth and it is not joined in that matter things will change for you it will change for you and that is how I started looking at it but there are many people in church today they confess faith but they are full of fear in the name of Jesus but they are full of fear like this and you know consciousness you can't fake consciousness and that is just the soul I have not started talking about spiritual realities oh my goodness maybe you can mention a little bit about spiritual realities so let me say this briefly because I know time is on our side yes let me say these spiritual realities like I have told you I deal with what is called nefesh ruwak nefesh talking about the soul and the ruwak meaning the spirit now it is very complex that people have never known that God created us as the number one spirit and also physical body so to mean that in this physical body that you have that you carry just opposed to it there is another spiritual body and we begin to understand this from Paul's writings Paul was a deep philosophical writer and if there is a man that has inspired me and I read his accounts more than anything is Paul Paul says in the book of 1 Corinthians 15 verse number 44 you go there about he started talking about there is a physical body there is a spiritual body now all this time we have been living by the body but now he started telling us you are not only a body in this body there is also another spiritual body and that spiritual body is just opposed completely like your physical body everything it has a mind it has eyes it has hands it has legs it is inside you it is part of you and you don't know again so in spiritual reality when I speak about spiritual realities I teach people that man is a physical body also in the sense that you are created by God to operate in this earth in this planet it is called the relevant world and he gave you five senses to operate in this relevant world he gave you the desires or he gave you taste but there is also another spiritual body that you have which is you that does not live in this physical body it lives in a dimension called the Spiritual world spiritual realm so your spirit is inside of you but does not live in this physical realm it lives in the dimension called the spiritual realm so when I'm teaching spiritual realities do you know of your spirit do you know how it is existing Do you know the nature of it existing right now and how it is existing? Because you see you only know your physical body, do you know how your spiritual body, yes. You can be here and that's why I'm telling you when I talk about spiritual realities, there are people you will find that they can be looking beautiful and free like you're looking, but if you look at them in the spirit world, you will find that these people are in total captivity, total darkness and it is and you don't know. Ya but because you enjoy the natural light, you think all is fine. You get, it's like one time God can give you an encounter you get into town and you find everybody is walking head down and you are walking head up. Spiritual realities, there is a lot of injustices in the realm of the spirit world because you do not know yourself. There is a lot of controversies that can happen for you in the spirit world because you do not know yourself. So I teach a lot for people to understand how do you exist as a spiritual entity in the spirit world, so that you can be a complete person. So most of the problems that people find is based on the spiritual world. Ya, so many sicknesses, so many diseases. So people say that things usually happen in the spirit before they manifest in the flesh. Yes, it is true. Okay. Very true. The conversation is long, we needed more time. Yes, you will call me sometime. So continue then next time. Yes, I would like to talk about spiritual realities. It's a very deep subject and I feel like in this generation, especially for the young people, because my heart is so much for the young people, I would really want them to understand what is inside them. So that when a young man is getting to about 35, he is a complex creation that is causing great impact in the world. But we have just been taught on the soul Pakeaki. Okay. So maybe next time you will invite me. Alright, we definitely will. Thank you very much. Yes. Apostle Anthony Mwangi. Yes, Anthony Krarumwangi. Yes, Anthony Krarumwangi, who is the CEO of Nefeshwa. Nefeshwa. Yes. And also a spiritual realities teacher and an alternative mind therapist. Yes. I hope you've enjoyed the conversation. Can you give them my contact? Is it possible? Yes, you can give contact. This is your camera. Okay, okay. Thank you so much for being with me today and being with us this morning. I want that for that talk that we have had. If you'd like to contact me, my name is Apostle Anthony Krarumwangi. My number is 0724-571484 or 0736-750-638. Thank you so much and God bless you. Alright. Amen. Thank you so much. So that's where we bring it to a close. Yes. Thank you very much. Thank you. For sticking with us throughout the show from morning. Yes. With me and Rand Sacko. All the way till 10 a.m. we appreciate your company. This has been Why the Morning. My name is Stephanie Ata. I hope you enjoy the rest of your viewing. Thank you. Amen. Thank you.