 So, this session is mainly for a general interaction, so we will have professor Sethi, myself and somebody from the workshop management team, so if you have any concerns, suggestions or questions regarding the lectures we will be able to take it, we will also have feedback form where you can actually give detailed feedback, but this is just if we can answer to it, we will answer it now. Please go ahead. First of all, I must congratulate IIT Bombay for this mammoth effort of teaching the teachers. Thank you. And making them communicate crisply to the students. If the teachers are good, then students automatically will be able to do better. So far as the classes are concerned, the modus operandi was fantastic. All of us were made to go on to Moodle and submit an interact online, get a feel of what we mean by the term technical communication and later on, based on that experience, we have interacted online here in this week. Thanks a lot. I wish you all the best and all the participants so that we can make India one step higher in terms of technical education. Thanks a lot. Good afternoon, sir. Hello, good afternoon, ma'am. I am Shipra. I am the remote center coordinator here. Okay. Sir, you had told us that any educational course should be coupled with communication skills. So how to incorporate communication skills, exercises in our subjects, like engineering subjects? Some principles can be incorporated. Not all principles can be incorporated in everything. One thing that many students lack here is because English is not being our native language. Written and oral communication in English is lacking severely. So when you give problems to students, if you give them problems that are not just mathematical or just choice answers, but actually ask them to describe it. So describe what is the question they are trying to answer and ask them to think and little bit in English and express that, even if that is mistake and if you can correct them, I think that will be the first step. And they have to, of course, read more, not just one textbook, but many textbooks and I think that will, in a sense, that is something which is common to all courses. But many other aspects of what we discussed here may not be applicable to all courses, but certainly a couple of them can be used. Okay. Thank you very much. Sir, I have one question to you. If you do not mind. Yes, please. When you were taking up abstract writing, there was one question that came up to my mind and that was normally what happens is whenever any conferences announced in any of the colleges and whenever the papers are called from us, what we do is we write the abstract first and then we start about writing the paper. And since the abstract is already submitted to the college to be printed in the souvenir and suppose, like, is it very much compulsory on our part to stick to that abstract because many a times we come, you know, we are faced with this problem that the abstract that we have already submitted, probably the research work that we try to conduct later on is slightly, you know, it has some variations from the abstract that we have submitted. So, is it advisable to do this or is it very much because once abstract has gone to the college to be printed, nothing can be done. This is very commonly encountered not only in local conferences, even international conferences and I think the community also recognizes that. Now, the initial submission of abstract is only to filter out from 100 to say 10 or so. So, once they actually filter that out, usually they give a second call for resubmission of abstract very close to the actual event. So, if they asked call for abstracts 5 months ahead, they might give you one month ahead before they actually print it. Now, even if they do not do it, I think it is okay. So, long as the broad area is the same, if the result, if it has taken a different this one, I think you should, even if you are going to change your title, you should just intimate your organizers that there has been some minor changes which is acceptable. But most conferences do allow you to update the abstract not to a totally different one, but something within the area to some variations in the results. I think that is quite acceptable given that actually it is in a sense good because you actually think what is going to happen and you write it. That is very important when you do a research, you actually plan in a way that if I do this, I might get this result. But when you do it, you might get something else which is okay. So, long as you stick to the broad topic, it is fine. Thank you so much sir. Thank you. Let us go on to the next college. Javelal Nehru College. Good afternoon sir. Good afternoon. Sir, thank you on behalf of our entire JNNC team, to you and your entire team support and also your colleagues. Thank you. Yeah. One question I had that is when will the results be announced and the certificate issuing for it? We will take about week or two. We want to give a chance for some people who have missed some of the assignments because we could not give a second chance for the quizzes. We are going to give another activity which I will announce towards the end of this once everybody is here and we will also put it up in IIT Bombay and Moodle so that you will, so expect about two weeks from now. But certainly we are going to give you a format for provisional certificates which you can give, you can sign it and give that is not official. You I mean the workshop coordinators can sign it and give. So, that can be done immediately. The team here says that it will take about three to four weeks because there is printing and dispatching all those things is there. So, just to finalize to announce it online we will take about two weeks and then the final dispatch of the certificates might take about three weeks. Okay. Thank you sir. Knowledge Institute of Technology from Salem. Good afternoon sir. So, you have any broad questions or comments? Basically, I have a single doubt sir based upon the classroom what we have followed sir. One important thing what I encounter is that given the all these kinds of materials questions a month before. But I personally feel that it was not able to record all those things. So, if in that case it will be useful if you give the presentation etc one day before covering a topic so that it will be easy for us to take a homework can be refreshed and then coming to next class it will be very much useful to record all those things. Yeah, your suggestion is good. But see that is how a normal flipped classroom has to happen. So, let me repeat what was suggested by Knowledge Institute they had suggested instead of having the lectures one month ahead and come for the workshop you can do it one day ahead. The reason it was done with so much even in spite of having given a one week span for somebody to view it many people could not view it and it will be little difficult if we have to do it just one day. So, everybody say today I post all the video lectures which are going to come tomorrow you will hardly have any time to go home and view that videos. So, usually people are able to what we have noticed is most of you are able to view the videos during the college time may be after lectures between 534 30 to 630 hardly many people can go home and view the videos. So, given that constraint it is little difficult for us to do both the things just one day before okay. So, of course within college environment when you want to do flip classroom maybe it is okay because we can try different other models is the first time we are trying this maybe we can try another model where we do lectures and then in the same week we hold the interaction. So, let us see but that would mean that many people travelling for long distances once we have lot more remote centers we will be able to do the way actual flip classrooms are held that we have the video lectures followed by interaction the same week. Thank you for the suggestion we will work on some model like that. Yes sir thank you sir we have one more doubt as sir. Yeah please go ahead. So, good afternoon sir. I have some questions with you sir first normally we are telling men or women are equal like this we are telling sir. But if there is any age difference between men and women or gender difference means at the time the communication is going to failure how can we identify it sir. For example, many age is higher than women age means we will not accept anything many times at the time what we can do sir. See okay I think there is something what is desirable I mean if we have what professor Parthasarathy has given in his talk is what is accepted practice which is fair. Now how do you get to it is now you are aware you have to inculcate it if you are able to tell your class students and they are all in the same age group. So, they should be able to appreciate that first so we cannot accept all expect all your colleagues to do that overnight or something. But hopefully your class students will be able to appreciate slowly and given this era of internet and awareness about what is a fair culture I guess they will be more receptive and we will have a better workplace when your students come to take the pedestal. Okay sir thank you sir one more question sir yeah I have written something in my article if I produce same thing in my another article means it is called a supplegerism sir. In a sense it is because say let us say you are publishing in one place in one journal you do not own the copyright to that it is most of the cases about 80 to 90 percent of the cases the copyright is owned by the journal publisher. So, which means that you have to take the journal publishers permission to use it okay the copyright you have actually transferred the right to copy the content from there to the publisher only the publisher can reproduce the some things in two different places you cannot reproduce again it is not considered that way it is not considered a good practice suppose say you are describing an experiment you are describing methodology in one paper and you are using the same methodology for some other experiment now you might think that I am doing the same thing let me just do it now just let me just write the same thing that is not right if it is already there simply site that say that this has been reported in detail in that paper and you can just list down two points but never take the complete material one it is violates legally wrong because it is violating copyright other it is ethically wrong because you are not actually restating and writing it in a different way okay sir next two question is I have got some idea from my friends or others for my article if I quoted that that things in worksite I mean it is called plagiarism sir you know plagiarism is copying of something which is expressed already not somebody that is saying when you say something that is not been expressed in a tangible form you have to have the expression in a tangible form tangible form could be printed material a recorded video or audio or something of that so they are all tangible form if you reproduce a tangible form exactly as it is called plagiarism now if somebody gives you an idea over cup of coffee and you use it that is not plagiarism it may be unethical not to give credit to that person but that is not plagiarism for sure you might want to give an acknowledge you do not need to give authorship to that person but if you want to give credit in acknowledgement you should say helpful discussions from my from this person I acknowledge helpful discussion from this person and suggestion initial suggestion of this idea which is good enough you do not need to actually put their authorship and not putting anywhere their name is ethically wrong okay sir my final question is which is the best method to understand the data easily by chart or bar chart or data for table format so the main points it was discussed in that presentation two days back is it depends on the kind of data whether it is continuous it is discrete or it cannot be compared so it can't even put it in a graph form only table so it is very specific so if you actually go or take a look at this presentation here in that video you will see different scenarios where you have to use different kind of data presentation okay thank you Margaret engineering college from Albert sir the workshop organized by you is very informative for us we have learned a lot from this workshop we learnt how to read read a paper how to write the abstract of a paper especially especially the session conducted by the artist or is very informative thank you thank you very much so where do you think we can improve I think if such workshop from the discipline specific if you conduct the such workshop from the discipline discipline specific discipline perspective so there are in fact courses though we don't have a lot many there are some courses in computer science mechanical engineering which is thermodynamics and even next week we have courses on engineering physics so there are technical courses also being held hopefully you will see many more courses in a in a year or two so what we'd like to know is what is your feeling of the quality of interaction you think it was good enough sir the quality of interaction is very good sir okay and it is very informative sir so do you have technical communication skills in your college do you how do you propose to use this course for your college sir we can use this course in second year onwards sir okay very good so what in the from the contents that you have seen here what are the contents that are common to the course that you are running especially sir communication skill gd interview skills sir these these topic covered by you are very important sir okay and we will use it for the benefit of our students are okay very good how about the the technical communication part which is related to reading writing papers presentation and so on so do you think your research students can use that or you yourself will use that how do you think that is useful to you all sir especially apart from the communication the lecture delivered by you sir just like how to read a paper how to write a paper we can include this in our mtech student we can use this knowledge to guide our mtech students are okay do you have do you have special courses for mtech students as well yes sir okay we have three mtech students are okay thank you very much