 Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E-C-E-O man. Hey man, I got it live today, man. I got some... I got Kings in here today, man. Say man, I got my boy, L.D. 300. He having a co-host right now, man. Hey, some difference? Something we gonna do on the side of the mic, you know what I'm saying? And I got my boy, Derwin Lam, man. Hey, welcome to Boss Talk 101, man. Thank you so much for allowing me to come up here, man. Man, man. I couldn't do it without you, to be honest with you. You are... I believe, you know, you wanted to... Patriarchs did when they come down to helping the community. Yeah, that's what I'm committed to, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you from Stop Six? Brisbane, yeah. Okay. Well, how was it over there? Because I had a few Stop Six people on here, you know. I didn't hear some stories. I just passed right on by. I go on the weather for the Middle Wales or something. I don't even... I don't even stop. And y'all got too much going on. Hey man, listen, I learned a long time ago to stay out the way. A long time ago. So, just give us some insight on who you are, man. And, you know, just give us a background on, you know, just coming up. How was it coming up in Stop Six, young kid? I lived in other places, like originally from Fort Worth, my family's... All my family's from the north side of Fort Worth, you know, man. Oh, you're from the north? Well, most of my family is. So, I would say north and east. But I was raised on the east, and I lived on... Okay. ...any, my mom and them. North side, shout out to my homie, J.J. Berry. Yeah. You gonna see this here, you know, Foltray. I feel like... North side. I feel like I'm just of a north side dude as I am east side dude, man. Okay. As a family, my dad, my mom, and all them grew up over there. But my criminality, things and stuff that I was doing when I was young was, you know, on the east side. Yeah. Yeah. Without criminating myself. Well, we don't want to... We're not those other shows, brother. We're not trying to get you in no cross. But we do want to talk about just coming up, like when you first came up and started, you know, are you from a single paranormal? No, no. I mean, it was until my awesome stepdad came in. But I didn't read my real dad until I was 16. But at first it was just me and my mom and my little sister. And then my stepdad came in years later. So great dude, man. You know, love him to death. My mom, great people. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, when you think about that area over there, you guys got a... Y'all got a great lineup when it comes to different leaders, I think, about in that area for some reason. It's hard core, but what don't kill you make you stronger, right? Right, right. So, I mean, you know, being on whichever side you own, when you start hollering stop six, it gets this type of respect. Yeah. Some kind of, you know what I mean? So, I mean, when you first came up, I mean, you know, I know you don't want to get into too much. Yeah. But what made you, you know, kind of go a little bit off track? Man, honestly, if I'm being real with you... Yeah. What happened to me was a lot, what happened to a lot of black kids that won't, black young men that won't admit this, that a lot of us was looking for a way to fit in. And a lot of us were looking for a way to fit in, maybe and to survive too. You know, the world is real ugly and nasty. And I realized that as a young man that my thing was to affiliate myself with somebody wherever, it was almost like I felt like I could be a part of a group or part of, it's like sports or anything, you want to be a part of something. And that's what it was for me, because it was my cousin who really that made me like wanted to be involved with the affiliation because I looked up to him. You know what I mean? So, I looked up to him, so I wanted to kind of do what he was doing, so it was kind of like, that's kind of where I start, kind of like following him and the group and the cliques and stuff like that and not knowing what I was really getting myself into. You know what I mean? It was more like me like a fade or a fat thing to me, not realizing what I was really getting myself into until it started getting like that. You have to get out that portion, get into that water, things start changing and stuff like that. So, my perspective was different. I always felt like I was different than all the guys anyway, because I felt like that wasn't really my calling, that wasn't really what I was supposed to be doing. You know what I'm saying? I was just doing something to be doing it, and then it got a little out of control, out of hand, you know what I mean? And my spirit wasn't supposed to be like that. It was me that, you know, my curiosity and me not having really nothing else to do and me wanting to be like that, and it was like, man, I'm like that, so I'm going to try to do that. A lot of people want to admit this, but a lot of boys, a lot of men are like that. They not really like that, so you got to get like that. What I took from a lot of those guys, man, was personally from me was like, besides like, it's way deeper than affiliation and gang culture to me. To me it was like, these dudes was like, a lot of my cousins and my friends and family, they were like, real like family and brothers. Like I never had no issues, and even on the other side, you know what I'm saying? I never had no issues with people that were Cribs. I didn't have issues with people that were Bloods. I just saw it like, as dudes were like, coming together as brothers and families, and I still see that to this day, when I was over there yesterday, talking to the little bro and talking to all the guys. It's like, man, you know, it's a genuine family, a genuine love. I'm not even thinking about gang banging. None of that is not even in my mind or nothing. It's like, man, these dudes are like real life friends and real life brothers and they not haters and they not, you know, they support me and anything I do as far as like the community, the martial arts and stuff like that, they come to my events and it's real, real, real love. So that's what I took from it. I mean, a lot of people take that. So you were at martial art. You do martial art. Oh, yeah. How was you trained in that? Yeah, so my mom, my mom was actually in karate at a young age, and I used to go to her karate class with her in Fort Worth, you know what I'm saying? And so, and then, you know, she was training with one of the elite guys in Fort Worth at the time. And later on, you know, when my dad came into play, he was also a martial artist. That's actually how my mom and my dad, step-dad, and my biological father was in the martial arts. So my family's were... So you known in the hood as this? Yeah, you know, that's where everybody know me as a martial arts fighter. I mean, because I, you know... You know, I started to grab you when I shook your hand. I didn't shake it firm, but I say to me, you know, I let you make it. You been to prison? Long time ago, 1995, 1996. So you went up in there? You already was on your martial arts? Yeah, I knew. So I started training. I started doing martial arts when I was about 7 or 8 years old. You know what I'm saying? What prison did you go to? No, I was in Colorado at the time. Why are you in prison in Colorado? I was in Colorado. So Colorado split. What the hell are you doing in Colorado? I'm breaking the laws, man. Yeah, yeah, just... If you understood, it wasn't even nothing like that. It was me being young and misunderstanding the conditions of my probation and not knowing and me violating it because I was young and being dumb not knowing the game. It was really something small. You know, I was on probation for an assault and harassment and I didn't end up going... I stopped going on my classes and stopped doing my hangar management doing all that stuff. Then I ended up going to, you know, catching a robbery case and a pistol charge and all that stuff. So I got this. I ended up getting what you call it... What's... I brain freeze the word when... Violation. Okay. And that's what happened, you know. So it wasn't like... You know, it wasn't like I wouldn't kill somebody or did all this, sold all this big old dope. It was just a young knucklehead, technologically knucklehead not really, you know, doing what I was supposed to be doing. Did you have to drop one of the cats in there with the bang-bang boat? Man, that's the story that I want to hear right now. Yeah, I got in one fight in jail, man. One fight, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, one fight. And, you know, believe it or not, when you come from a background like martial arts and stuff like that, in a street fight, I'm not even really thinking about that stuff. I'm going for what's going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually fought in a ring. I fought a couple of pro boxing fights. I fought MMA fights. I won a world title in kickboxing 2008. Wow. I was international kickboxing for the World Champion. That's something to be proud of, man. Yeah, so... It's something to be lyrical, too. Yeah. You tell my hand and do all that. Thank you for letting us know. Yeah. You're going to laugh a little more with this joke. It teaches us... It teaches us... Really, it taught us... It teaches you discipline and control. Let me tell you something. I knew that I was different than a lot of people that I used to hang around with. I knew that because I knew my spirit was different. I knew I didn't have no business doing some of the things I've been doing. So that's why my transition to, like, moving away from hanging out with the street dudes was real smooth and easy because I was intelligent enough to watch and wise enough to see what was going on. Watching my... Oh, yeah, we feel a crash. This ain't... We in some dead end and we ain't joined the ride. We headed to the wild. It was never, like, a badge of... Well, at some point when I was young, trying to fit in and trying to prove myself and let everybody know, hey, man, I'm repping y'all. It was like that, but... Now, you did right. This is some illogical shit. This shit ain't for no springing out. No, once I realized this was gonna lead to a different kind of tragic place, like, whether it was death or jail for the rest of my life, I was like, man, I ain't really with this. I ain't really... I don't wanna be like that. I don't wanna do that. So, nah, man, God put a different kind of spirit in me than to be that kind of person. So I can't just... I'm not gonna rep this thing and say I was the hardest one, but I'm down. I was down and I'm down as a man, regardless. So... But when it comes to, like, being hardcore and trying to represent that life to the way you die, that's just not who I am, who I was supposed to be. So I was able to move around quick. I just use what I got now and the people that show me love and that respect me from all neighborhoods. We're not... I'm Fort Worth, anywhere, Northside, Southside, Westside, all places. People show me love, so I use that to bring people together in all communities. So I'm not... I don't like being labeled to one place or one thing because I feel like I represent all communities, you know what I'm saying? And I'm friends with some of the biggest bosses, the biggest dogs from the Southside to the Northside to the Eastside to the Westside. I'm connected with all the top dogs. So what's your overall goal that you're trying to get accomplished with, like, what you're doing with the kids and whatnot, or what's the goal? Just like you said a key word earlier, so people don't crash out, you know what I'm saying? So for me, like, although mom and them did the best they could, you know, when the generation is different, they can't teach you or tell you certain things that they don't know. So you're really being raised by the world, by the people, your peers, the people that you're in front of. So my thing is trying to tell these kids that I wasn't told to me and that I had to learn on my own by taking that transition and walking life, saying, you know, man, I was a crash dummy. So just making mistakes, trial and error, and just trying to figure it out. So when my thing is when I do these programs with these schools and these kids, teaching them, hey, this is what you don't have to do. You don't have to be like this. It ain't cool to be a gang member. It ain't cool to be a street dude. It ain't cool to kill somebody. It ain't cool to go to prison. It ain't cool to rob regardless of what TV, music, whatever you think you see or think is right. Because I was influenced by what I saw on TV, colors, you know, the movie colors. I was influenced by all that stuff. So as a young man in my mind, I didn't realize I was already transitioning my brain to try to be something I wasn't supposed to be. And so now I'm going to tell people that these kids that it's okay to be who you're supposed to be, who God created you to be. That's the number one thing is that you ain't got to crash out. You ain't got to, ain't nothing cooler. But to me what's cool is having a good bank account, you know, understanding like, you know, love, life, God, spirituality, and having a good credit and having a house, having a car, having a good woman, having kids. But you can defend yourself with also being able to defend yourself if necessary, when necessary. So with martial arts, this is the thing. If you learn martial arts, I grew up confident in not learning how to be a bully or not doing that because I knew how to fight. I knew how to do that. So I didn't have a mentality of wanting to test people or wanting to mess with people and wanting to do stuff like that because it gave me a confidence and a spirit that I don't have to do that. I don't have to do that unless I have to do that. I was in situations like, I mean, I don't know what you're familiar for four words. Like back in the day, there was a club we used to go to called Club Midpoint back in the day. And it was like really like a war zone. It was fighting all the time. You know, I never went there with the expectation of fighting, but it happened. But it's not really what I wanted to do. So my thing is, if I'm not trying to fight in a ring or a cage, I'm not trying to do that. So what I teach the young guys, most of the guys in my gym, the fighters, I've been owning the gym for 10 years now. Damn. Oh yeah, I'm a full martial arts gym. I'm the only black-owned mixed martial arts gyms in the state of Texas. Beautiful. Black-owned. Beautiful. And I've been coaching for 20 years. I've been involved in martial arts off and on for 37 years. You know what I'm saying? So fifth degree black belt karate and doing Taekwondo. Third degree black belt Taekwondo. I've been doing jiu-jitsu and grappling and wrestling for about 25 years. Damn. You know what I'm saying? So I've been doing Muay Thai and MMA the whole thing for a long time. So wrestling, the whole thing. So I use the platform of mixed martial arts to bring young men in to try to change the challenge of mind while they're thinking they're coming in to learn fighting. I'm teaching them fighting because that's what they want to learn. But what I'm really doing is getting inside here. What's the age bracket you really dealing with? So mainly, we take them as young as five, but my main group is the ages between 14 and 30 years old. And I like that because when you think about 14 and 30 or it's just those ages that you're keeping a lot of people focused on something other than. I hear you. Other than. Because there's a lot I can get into at 14 and 30, bruh. For sure, but I want to know. Do they really... Because I'm going to tell you something that I noticed. I noticed that people ain't got that fighting in them no more. They're not really... One, you know, you get hit in the... Are you seeing that fight? People are fighting. They want that contact, that physicality. It's a spirit. Like everybody that come in my gym come from a similar background of myself. And so it's like a lot of the people that come in the fight gym come from kind of hard background. So that's why I'm... Is there about that squabbling? No. Listen, I got... So you know I put three people in the UFC. Okay. Three people. Three people in the UFC that we put in our gym. I got guys now fighting right now. Mix martial arts, boxing and kickboxing. Everybody in my gym are dogs. Yeah. Everybody. You know, this documentary, you can look that up. Like I've been one of the top trainers around here for a long time. Here's the thing. Some people that come in the gym, it's my job. You see some people they say, they might not look like they got it. But some of them have it. They just don't know that they got it. Oh yeah, I come from... And you got to bring it out of them. A similar but different. I definitely know that part. But I'm trying to see, are you seeing a lot of people with biting, fighting and that's not cowering down when it get a little rough? No, I train these guys, man. These guys are... Everybody, like I say, everybody in my gym that fight for me. I got about currently fighting for me like pro and amateur about 13 fighters. There's not one of them that's... They're about it. They're ready. Don't take it as I'm talking on shit because I don't want no smoke with nobody. No, no. They're saying no USA or training on them. No, no. Yeah, I'm just... I'm talking about spirit. Yeah, don't take it as nothing in general. You're going to get ones that come in the gym and I tell my lady all the time that I'm real good at... Soon as somebody walking in the gym, I'm real good at like, you know... I'm real good at like seeing who's... who's got it and who don't. They don't take me that long to figure out if you got it or if you don't got it. Right. You've used that word spirit about three, four times now and you also use God about three times, man. And that's very important when it comes down to the aspect of really understanding which way you're going with whatever you're doing, right? Right. You know what I mean? It's the center of my life, right? It's the first thing in my life that I live by because I tried it the other way so many times and it confused me. It gave me identity crisis and made me frustrated. It made me hurt and I was lost. So in order for me to be found, I just realized I got to do it this way and I have to... That's why he said trust in God with all your heart and make God understand. Do you have a lot of kids from stop six in your gym? No. No? Uh-uh. Not really at all. It could be from anywhere. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So I don't... It's not a certain territory. No, I'm not labeled to a community. I'm every community. You're trying to capture the world. Yeah, man. Everybody training my gym come from everywhere. Most of the kids in my gym, some of them are suburban kids, some kids from north side, south side, some are Mexican kids. There's maybe... I got like three kids in my gym from stop six, but it's everyone. I'm trying to reach everyone. Yeah. I like that as well. When you look at the way that... You said earlier that you basically... They think they come into fight, but there's something else that's underlining that's way more important. Right. And that's the whole game, even with what we're doing here. Exactly. The thing is to bring people in so that we can try to find a way to channel things into a positive aspect. A way to where you make a way out of no way. Touch some places that will never be touched except you get them in a certain group setting in order to do so. You know what I mean? So if they come in my gym, right, and my mind is everybody is not going to be a world champion fighter. Yeah. But my goal is to make everybody a world champion in life. That's it. Simple. So some guys that I've trained years ago don't fight no more. But it became very great men in their life because of the me teaching and talking to them about God, about life, and never giving up on that spirit. Because if I can see that there can be something that I can save, I know that it's going to take time. And I'm patient with that, just as God was patient with me and my family was patient with me when I was trying to find myself in that world being lost and things like that. So if they don't become a world champion, I'm okay with that. If they become a world champion in the process of me teaching them, that's fine. But if they become a spiritual world champion, then I know that I've done my job and I know that I've done what God has wanted me to do. So my gym would not be open right now. I know that. My gym would not be open right now if I was self-gloating myself. If I was about me, I know that gym wouldn't be open. See, the gym is the foundation. That's all it is. It's the foundation and it's the structure for God using my gym to do everything else that I'm doing in his life, like working with the kids, speaking, public speaking and all these things. See, 25 years ago, if you would have told me that I was gonna be coaching mixed martial arts, I would have laughed at you. Out of the blind, there was no way. I thought my path was gonna be something else. Probably not even being it right now, talking to you. That's the way it was me. My mother was always worried about me in that world because I was a loose cannon, bad tempered, fearless, didn't care trying to prove myself. You were physical in the six. Yeah, and that's just how it goes. Right. So at the end of the day, if I didn't get a hold of that in my mind, in my spirit, I wouldn't be here. So that's why I'm trying to do the same thing for the kids. The hardest thing for me is walking in a room. We went and did some of the guys from all the neighborhoods went and speak to the kids in the middle school. When I go in the schools and I look at the kids, the first thing I'm looking at is I'm trying to read the spirit. And I see a lot of them already broken. Yeah. At 13, 14 years old, broken mental. See, I can't say that I didn't come from love, right? I think that's why I got so much to give because I had people that did love me. And I think that's what saved me was the grace of love and prayer from my mom, my dad, and different people. So that's why when I go in and see these kids and I see the spirit already broken, I'm like, man, it breaks my heart. So what I'm trying to do is reach them before they're all the way gone. When I'm 13, 14 years old, you can still get them. I also realize that I'm not going to save every one of them. So I have to understand that that what I have is I have appointed assignments. And I just fulfill those assignments and keep doing it. So every day that I wake up, it's not about just me. It's about everyone that God puts in front of my path to help. And I have to do that with great intentions and purity in my heart. I can't do it for the cameras. I can't do it for myself. I can't do it for show. It has to be something that's within you. And when it's within you, it'll flourish outside of you because the change has to come from the inside out and not the outside end. Yeah. Ministry is serious when it comes down to your servitude of what your gift is. That's important, man. You know what I'm saying? You got to have it. If you don't, you don't even feel filled. If you don't do what your heart desires, if you're trying to help people. That's the whole game with me. When I do this, I do this from the heart, man. And I ain't going to do it. That's why when you called me that day, it was a no brainer that, hey, man, bring your own boss talk one on one because of your spirit. Because of what, when we locked in, it was just like when you talk, it's just something about certain people click, you know, and for you to be doing something for the kids. That's another thing. I think teaching self-defense and stuff like that, that's like really something that needs to be going on. Yes. For real. It's a lot of people that just, for lack of wanting to engage in something physical, I feel like that's why the murder rate is what it is. People don't want to fight, you know what I mean? Sometimes it's a fight thing. I agree with that. It ain't for killing, you know. We supposed to get this on. They want to slide over somebody that stepped on your feet. Somebody trying to punk you a little bit. You don't even want to, man, throw some punches. You might lose a fight. He might never mess with you again, you know. But that's why I feel like it's good. But that's my major question to you was just, are you seeing, because it's one thing to have a bad attitude and feel like you tough, but it's another thing to get hit and keep fighting. I just kind of, I don't know, I just, I just feel like people ain't really body no more. Like they getting hit, they don't want no more smoke no more. You know what I'm saying? You ready to go grab a gun, right? You don't got a hit in the mouth. You're a little busted. I'm living up. I'm gonna go, I'm gone. I'm gonna go, you taking out running for the, get the strap, you know. Come on, man. You don't even squabble. Dossle. Everybody docile now is what you're saying. Everybody lay back. They ain't doing nothing no more. I feel like they enjoy the people. They'll fight, they'll shoot the hoes. The hoes. Hoes. They shoot the fighting. Hoes. Yeah, it's a pride. It's a pride and ego thing with these dudes. Just think about that. Nobody wants to be humiliated in front of other people. Nobody wants to take L's in front of people. Society got a big role to do on that right there. Right there. You see that? Yeah, why is it like that? Why do you think it's like that? You know I'm not going to go that. Social media, the normal ass of social media, but I feel like it's a lack of self confidence because everybody's going to lose a fight. Right. So taking a loss and then another thing is people just winning fights. They not knowing how to win a fight. They so happy you don't got some. I've seen people that really should have left somebody alone and then they go all overboard. You know what I'm saying? Now you making him have to do something? You make me think about that case the other day in the school where the kids was fighting. One of them shot the other. What stems this type of activity within the school? So with that, you know what I mean? Just a question. With that particular situation, it goes back to what he was saying. That particular situation, that kid was being bullied, picked on, messed with, robbed, jumped, talking about. They was messing with this kid. So is there things that show that that was really going on? Yeah. I believe I saw that. It's people campaigning it that way. Which one is it? They lay that boy right on out. I know that. I'm just trying to understand because you know, everybody can paint a certain picture. I get it. But I'm saying, okay, so you're saying there was some evidence. Yeah. And then there's a video with the kid beating up on the kid. He says, I mean, the kid did not want to fight. He was, if you look at the video, he was like, little kid and he talking about on blood and he from, this is over in Mansfield talking about on blood or something, whatever, but he hit the kid on blood and beat any kids out there and followed it up. The day before that they had beat him up. They had jumped on him. His mom had went to talk to the school. No one did nothing. They tried to get to the police. Nobody did nothing. So the next day he shot him. Wow. He shot him. So I'm not saying that he's right. It is what it is. I'm not saying that he's right, but it is what it is. Yeah. Because at the end of the day, we got to look at both sides of that. See, again, like in a situation like that, I was always taught if they don't want it, you know what I'm saying? So chasing something down and lose your life. You know what I'm saying? I was supposed to be getting to get with that kid. I'm still, I mean Charleston is trying to work that out and talk with him about, you know, talk with him about, you know, self-defense and stuff like that. I believe Charleston talked to the mother. Yeah, he was there that day when they let him out. I do know that. And she would, I think he spoke to her about me and wanted me to get with the kid about getting some help. Well, the thing I say is that somebody, now that's supreme. I have to say somebody has to do something. Instead of sitting back and everybody just chilling, somebody got to do something when it comes down to these situations. There has to be somebody that's stepping up that's really trying to make change. So many times we talk about the situation and we don't engage in the situation. That's good for social media. That'll get you some likes and views. You see what I'm saying? But when do we take those opportunities like you're talking about to get in there and really show for an effort to try to inject change in our youth? You know what I'm saying? You know that's my favorite thing to say. How do we change the narrative? How do we stop this from happening? How do we get our kids stronger? You're asking me? Yeah, I'm asking both of y'all. The harsh reality is that you have to, when it comes to dealing with kids because they have so much access to information, you have to really be an example of success to these children in order for them to listen to what you've got to say. So you're saying you've got to be successful in order for them to listen? Yeah, I'm saying that. Yes, sir, and I'm serious. But then at the end of the day, if you're not looking like that, I'm saying you need to be looking like you're handling your business. That's right. You need to have some things that I desire and you've got to be seeming like you've got an understanding of how to get to something in order for somebody to want to listen to what you've got to say. You know, the bomb can tell you something good, too. I know that you can learn a lot from anybody, but that's not the kids. The kids are the day not doing that. Not the kids, they're looking like they've found these people that's, again, we're just living in a different world. But I do think there's self-defense. Like, that is a real key thing to finding that inner strength to fight through things, to persevere, to have some endurance and go through tough things. I feel like it's a lot of people who just, I just feel like they're missing a hose. I like what you're saying, but I like what you're saying, because no matter what, when you really think about it, the time you're spending with these people is a time that you're sharing different conversations, different times, father figure times. This is really injecting change. So, I mean, because you got these kids with you, how much time you're spending with them, say, per week? I mean, I'm at the gym five days a week. How long do I do a client community? A couple of hours a day. That's a good time, man. Every time, though, I'm always planting that seed and planting that thing. Exactly. And I agree with what he said about they got to be able to see that you kind of got your stuff together, because I was talking to one of the partners and said, well, you can't really help these kids if you're still in a neighborhood and still doing these kind of things. They're not going to really be able to listen to you, because you're still in a neighborhood and still being able to listen to you, because you're still one foot in, one foot out. You can't reach them like that. You just can't. So, like my man said, you have to look like you know what you're doing or you're successful or got your stuff together for them to catch. Like you said, it got to be something that they desire to reach them. And it's serious, but you got to go, you got to get to them, and you got to not give up. There's a lot of them that I help. Yeah, but that's a genuine relationship. I hear what y'all saying, but I have to be the devil's advocate, because I keep thinking about you. You in the gym, it ain't really what it's the time you're spending with. Yeah, absolutely. You ain't shining and blinging and all that. It's an injected time that he's there with those kids. You see what I'm saying? That has nothing to do with everything else. And it's just raw. You see what I'm saying? But if you deal with that kid that don't do that, like you're talking about, and he's steadily looking at his phone and coming up with these scenarios with the music, then that's that kid too. You're a little big ass killer. Am I right? Physicality is something that needs to be really pressed. A lot of kids don't necessarily play football no more. Physicality, there needs to be more outlets for that, especially for kids that's from rough places. Physicality is a big deal, man. You got to be able to be tough, go out there, get punched, fight, lose, have class, no big deal. You got to have all of that type of stuff in you. I think it's coming from a rough place and being involved with an area gym, like having a gym that's where you can go to, and they doing stuff like that. Man, some quality character individuals that you know that's going to come out of there. So check this out. I had three kids that came to my gym a little over a year ago. Their mom's out of the east side and stopped to see some. Dad was a pastor. These three kids, good kids, but rough around the edges. They came to my gym. That's how this happened. They walked in my gym. They were brothers. They walked in the gym, seen everybody sparring. I seen it in their eyes that they had it. Would it take? But the arrogance and the ignorance of not knowing the fight world and fight game had them thinking something different. So this is what I do. They come in the gym. I'm looking at them. Hey, I get to them right in their face. What's up? What you got? What's going on? The attitude is different. Hey, we come over here to spar. I said, have you had any training? No. Street fight dudes, we're coming to spar. This is what I do. You want to spar? Well, let's get to it. I want to know who you are right now. You coming to my gym with this spirit and see you spar. So I put them in the lion's den. I threw them to the wolves to some of my best guys. Sign the waiver. Y'all go spar. They went in there and went hard, tried to fight hard, tried to go hard. I mean, they weren't scared, weren't backing down, but they got the ass whooped. Yeah. And they got the ass whooped a lot. But let me tell you about these three kids now. They're three of the best kids in my gym. Oh, they kept coming back. Listen, now the one, the one, the main one and just had his first MMA fight the other day and he won by submission. They've been in the gym and it changed their spirit. So they got the rest of the game and everything. It changed their attitude. The point is they, it changed the attitude because the atmosphere that was set in place for them was a good atmosphere. The people that was around them were good people. The people that was around them were mentors and leaders and there were people that understood them. So understanding that they felt comfortable, got the love and they, they got humbled. They realized they can't, they realized they can't whoop everybody. Then when they started realizing the skill set and realizing the cardio, the skill set, the respect and the honor that has been taught from through martial arts, then it changed their spirit and it changed their attitude. Now some of the three best kids in my gym That's a dope story. The best attitude. I remember when I first found out I couldn't whoop everybody. You know, it's, it's a humbling experience. It's a humbling experience, huh? Yeah. During lay-on, man, man, if there's anything, if there's any kid that's going without, if there's any situation, like I tell everybody to come on his panel, if you're dealing with something like that, hit me up, man. Like I say, we got more than enough to try to help kids and help the situation. If it's really serious situations out there where kids are going without, then we're here to help. That's what this story been about the whole time I've been here, actually. Speaking of that, I want to tell y'all that I just got Leonard Middle School, Fort Worth and, you know, Morningside. They have asked to bring, they asked for me to come in and teach my curriculum. So I have a life empowerment workshop program that I teach. And I did it for the Metro School, which is the alternative school up in Fort Worth, which is right by my gym. And then also now Leonard, I just talked to the principal. We met both principals from Leonard Middle School and also Morningside. Met with them and I'm going to be teaching my life empowerment program in their school before they go to, so from eight to nine where we teach them. So this program that I have, it's a program that teaches them life skills. So a lot of the things that school don't cover, which I believe is on purpose, you know, the school's systems don't teach people to be leaders and entrepreneurs. They teach people to be followers and brainwashing them with the stuff, a lot of stuff that you learn in these public school systems are things that these kids aren't going to use anyway. Definitely. So my program is the opposite. We're teaching things like, you know, how to have good credit. Open a bank account. Open a bank account. Stay out of trouble. Stay out of trouble. Teach from STD, all that stuff that nobody, you know. The doors are not being open on that in the public school. And then not only telling them that, but telling them the repercussions of what happens if you don't get this life together. These are the bad things that happen if you don't do this, but watch this. These are the great things you can have and these are the great things that can happen if you follow this life and this program. So I'm confident with this because I go in there knowing when I was younger and I was like, I want to save all of them. But God, he's appointed time and appointed time. That's it. So going there, a lot of the kids that I helped through these programs through school, they all, most of them ended up turning out good. So that's what the program is all about. That's the curriculum that I'm doing is for that. Could you tell everybody how they could get a hold of you? Yeah. You can get hold of me on my Instagram at www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. www.derwinlam. that you got to say here? You got this man here is trained in four, five, I said top three fighters of all time. You don't see anything. So. That's right. My baby go dope. She know that's how we do it. Well. Top three. Particularly. Number one. He's not respecting the, you know. You heard what I said. Number one. I didn't say he's not respecting the fight job. It's too many of them, man. You got to give me your top three. Sugar Ray Leonard. Oh, okay. That's your number one. That's one of my number ones. Number two. Let's see. I'll take a couple from each sport. Okay. There you go. Sugar Ray Leonard and UFC, or UFC I'm going to go with a shoot. Man. George St. Pierre. That's what I was thinking. Okay. I'm going to go with him because, you know. But then, or Anderson Silva. No, no, no. You just get one. Usman. No. Usman. You know what I'm saying? You see what I got to deal with? I said, I'm going to put you back on the panel. We got a control list. So you told me. I said, I said Sugar Ray Leonard. I said, I said George St. Pierre. Okay. And then. Number three. I need one more. Yeah. Okay. Dang. So I'm just going to say my particular guy. Hey. Roy Jones Jr. Hey, Roy Jones, huh? I don't think nobody I probably run. So yeah, you know, but. That's no. I like the top three. Since you only gave me three. That's all I need. Because we'll be here all day. Yeah. Y'all can go down through there. Y'all know how to do. But I like when he was going with it. Y'all going to sit here and just really go into it. No, no, no. We're going to just get three and leave it alone. Yeah. But I just definitely appreciate what you're doing, man. You know what I mean? It's to be noticed. Right, Andy? For sure. Working with them kids and all of that. That's a good thing, man. Makes me feel good. Definitely. It's a feeling. Helping anybody. It just makes me feel good. It helps me. You know what I mean? It's a good feeling because those days I have my moments. And one thing I can't say when you get a kid that maybe won a championship or something that you want to recognize him for, just call me and bring that kid through here. And let's really recognize him for what they've accomplished. So let me share this with you real quick. My top fighter, one of my top fighters, I met him in one of the alternative schools. Really? When I was doing a motivational speaking panel to the whole school, he came up to me after we got through and walked straight up to me and said, hey man, I want to be a fighter one day. I want to be a fighter. And I hear that all the time. If you imagine, if I had a dollar for everybody said that I'd be rich, but, and I said, okay, come to the gym. And maybe like a few months later, I never heard from him. His aunt bring him to my gym. He's not left my gym since that day. He was 14 years old. He's 22 now. And he's one of the top flyweight prospects in the nation in MMA right now. Kevin Fernandez. Shout out Kevin Fernandez, man. You just got that serious shot out on Boss Talk 101. Yeah, Kevin Fernandez. Say, man, thank you so much, man, for coming on this show, man. We love you, brother. And if it's anything that you need from us on this scene on Boss Talk 101, and hey, man, give us a shout, man. Hey, straight up. And if you got anything else for it, man, I'll do. The man taking care of his business out there. Hey, man, it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. Appreciate it. Yes, sir.