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I'm Sadan Dhani and with me in this video as always is Leslie Xavier We have three stories that we're talking about today first up of course is cricket and update from the T20 ICC T20 World Cup where India unfortunately out We're also linking that to our interview with Lalit Modi which New member of our team KJ Muhammad Ali is done and how well what Lalit Modi the founder of the IPL the first chairman has to say about The auction and things going forward for that tournament and the future of T20 create I guess yeah in general how club T20 cricket is shaping up and how it will play or play out Compared to national teams playing compared to tournaments like the world Okay, we'll be and we'll be covering the opening round of matches at the AFC Women's club championships and of course a new boxing head coach for India's national women's boxing team So let's be first up T20 ICC India out We have the semi-finalists line line. Yeah, so Pakistan topped group two and New Zealand second so Pakistan will play the number two side from group one, which is Australia and England plays New Zealand. So More or less the best teams in the tournament Pakistan has been I mean and we the only and beaten side in the tournament and in impeccable form that way both individual players coming out and performing in their best and Also as a team, so they have ironed out most mistakes that we associate with Pakistan cricket team seems to be a very fit unit even seniors and Whatever plays in between the airs, it's it's more or less well-oiled. It seems and pretty disciplined as well. So It would be an interesting matchup Australia against Australia. They're also playing decently, but again If you look at the form displayed in the tournament, I would give Pakistan the advantage there and England and New Zealand anything can happen. Both teams are really good England being the top side from the other group but but New Zealand I Would say narrowly lost against Pakistan, but the way they are played Especially against India the clinical I mean other teams we can't take It as a yardstick as such because the teams are much much lesser quality-wise, but against India the way they played Clinical and if they bring that kind of a game against England, so we could see India's group two teams playing in the final that Probably absolves a little of little bit for India for losing to these two teams because they They seem to be in great form. I mean said that India's loss They they it clearly is an entertainment. They clearly the players as a team. They didn't click they didn't Play to plan. I don't know whether Again, we have discussed this fatigue and all these factors But I also firmly believe that the team the mindset the the drive that is required for such tournaments Short tournaments world-level tournaments was missing probably because I mean it's it's it's a serious thing as well The psychological aspect of being in the cross at the crossroads because wrong things Then the management did running into the tournament firstly announcing that this could be this would be Virat Kohli's last nautical rates News to send out to players as well as fans and in general But it affects the team dynamics and secondly you announce the coach It's like we always talk about football teams and how it's it's it's bad midseason if you if you get sacked At World Cups or European Championships if if a football coach gets sacked mid mid mid tournament That's it. The team is gone no matter how good a good a team is it's it's done with So the same thing here. I don't know what logic these people who take these calls go by but wrong timing and that There is a possibility that that that's what created a bit of a disruption in the in the I would say team psyche and That was evident in how the players were not sharp enough against teams of equal stature and Then when the backs were against the wall you play amazingly well against sides like Scotland or Afghanistan, I mean It's that's that's not necessarily as stick like I said earlier about newsletter. You expect that to happen I mean, yeah, especially at a World Cup at a World Cup so Unfortunate but again lessons Should be learned lessons in the sense not just about team dynamic team members or players So which players to retain which players to get get rid of but also how to run a team Yeah, I don't know. It's it's the best the richest board in the world and the best players arguably the best players in the world Definitely the richest players in the world as well professionals to the core, but you You are I mean an outsider should point out this that you are not running the team properly and it's these are these are basic things So so since you did bring up all that stuff a lot of the pressure I think that comes on to India's T20 cricketers particularly is because of the IPL Right because in even though England might have had a tournament earlier The IPL very quickly became the biggest thing in T20 cricket and because of it a lot of Indian players We have a lot of depth in that sense in this format and That'll lead us into I Suppose the next part of our conversation Which is this interview with the Lalit Modi who is the founder and at one point ahead of the governing council of the IPL Back what it now it's been more than 11 another life Yeah, it seems like it 30 years But I fear I do suspect that before we get into that just like a quick thing that I'm sure one solution to this mismanagement that you're speaking of will be addressed at the highest level of the sport and we'll see a tweaking of the Format of the T20 World Cup When it's played the next time So anyway, so Lalit Modi ki baare mein thoda baat karte hain Aik toh he is also questioning the BCCI in terms of some of his decisions relating to the IPL and the Recently held auction. Yeah, where the RPSG group took I think a total of 12,700 crore RPSG group taking the Lucknow franchise and CBC capital Aurelia Getting the Amalabad team. Yeah, so so it give us a gist without letting out too much because you're running I guess the whole interview on on our website by the way newsclick.im for all sports stories Yeah, without letting out too much, I don't know how much there is to let out but but without saying everything Tell us what he said. I'll stick to what Modi has already put out on social media But that's the most pertinent part that he has spoken about also a little bit of a subjective part as well So yeah, we'll discuss the subjectivity as such because in the interview we are letting Modi speak so so He has said I mean he has said and evidently so the CBC capital the entity of course it has investments investment arms, which is involved in a lot of Businesses so there one of the businesses is is is in betting firms with betting firms So they are subsidiaries which are which are betting firms. So betting being a touchy subject in India and As far as legal framework is concerned. There is not necessarily not exactly a Set of clarity whether it's legal or not legal if for instance, if you just Google is betting legal in India You will have three different answers. So It's a state subject and so states have a right to decide whether betting can be allowed gambling can be allowed or not allowed It's there in host racing, but it's not there in any other sport and Of late as we all know Online betting is possible from India because all these entities are based outside abroad their servers are outside They are not Operating from India technically and so that is possible. So it's a it's a open Well that when we also know that the BCC I I mean technically again There was a quote over the saying that it's not they are not gambling firms betting firms as such but dream 11 for instance They were I will type title sponsors last year last time Fantasy sport fantasy sport Finally, it's of course, it's linked with what the action action that happens. So it is in a way gambling but not necessarily gambling because the person's Ability judge judgment everything is involved. So it's apparently a mind. I mean a game where the mind Similar, I think logic that betting or gambling on horses. Yeah was allowed in India in India Same kind of So so when we consider all these factors and let it money statement that BCC I should review the the bid of CVC capital because they have money coming from these sources and since Betting is I mean ambiguous betting rules ambiguous in the country. I wouldn't say illegal because so and then BCC I knee jerk reaction probably or Around the same time this Modi's tweet came last end of last month just after the this thing and after the bid so BCC I coming out and saying that they are going to investigate this this situation it's it it is actually Insulting our collective intelligence as such no because that kind of scrutiny should have happened when the papers were submitted and and so the decision whether Their sources or their subsidiaries have some links, which we don't like as BCC I doesn't like that should have taken at that point, but they did not so and These are serious money that I involved. This is a serious business. So they should Be very clear what the rules are what the framework is what the where the boundaries are and as far as betting companies are concerned It's part of the business ecosystem. We are talking about huge sport business, right? So if if investment is coming like you said it's coming into Indian football church sponsors It's there abroad betting is not match-fixing. So let's I mean you have your anti-corruption Mechanism in place. You keep check of every check at everything and you run the show It's after all business. Yeah, and a lot of sport is in some ways funded by this kind of I mean the national lottery for example in In the UK that a lot of that money goes into sport in India. We see local level I mean clubs Going around and doing localized Lotteries yeah to raise money for their small expenses for for the season and stuff like that So it definitely warrants a larger conversation than just but maybe perhaps Because it's coming to focus because of the IPL. Yep. It's not the first time a lot has been done on this With Mukul Muthgal and the Lodha committee also all of that has covered great aspects of betting and Also fixing how it's happening in India. So so so a lot for the BCC The committees are just thinking it's it's all forgotten. It really has been that So the FC women's club world club not world sorry Asian Women's club championship was held for the first time is being held for the first time is on for the first time Sorry about my tenses but so it's on and The Jordanian football Association is hosting it. It's a pilot tournament Unfortunately reduced to only four teams from the Western part of Asia which includes India and Indian team participating Of course, because it's a first tournament first day all of that Gokulam Kerala are there. They are By virtue of being the IWL champions from 2019 20 Right. So almost three years of no Club level football for them in India They've got but they have strengthened their team with several members of the current national team as well as signed a clutch of Foreign players five five foreign players again I think this is the first time that there were a couple of Nepal players who were playing in India in the women's team two Three years ago as well But first time so many have come in so interesting developments on that Gokulam project I don't know the wider implications of of these championship because so the east one said keep COVID Hey, we we can't none of us have any interest in putting out teams for the tournament So it's just between the four countries from the West and India Gokulam Sorry lost their first game by one goal to one that ended against Aman Sports club Yeah, so what do you make of the match because I miss the match to be honest. I'm sitting here and of course I To be more honest, I'm you are the football expert here So why did you make a make of the team playing because see you mentioned that the national team players are playing in that And these national team players are supposed to play the Asian championship Next year and they have not had any match practice that way. They're in camps So now they're getting my practice. Yeah, see which is a good thing. Yeah, they're finally been able to get together Have a camp leave the country They played a few games against very strong club sides as well as some national teams the UAE and such So there are very few countries willing to really host Indian teams but because some of these are longer term exposure. Yes, it's at least happening There's news coming out actually just today that India will be participating in a four-nation Women's tournament involving Brazil If I'm not wrong, Colombia Chile and us so four countries, so that should be a Big big test for them and a chance to play against some of the real top-sized Yeah, but in terms of what happened on the pitch, it was actually quite a good game to watch The first goal go column got the lead thanks to a very nice chipped lob Over the keeper from the edge of the box by that Ghanaian striker who was a I mean so quick like on the defenders she had maybe Ten yards. Yeah, that quick, you know, just starting at the same point. Yeah So the teacher on the India number one the goalkeeper. Well, I'm not sure what India number one But but the Google I'm number one. She played a long ball. So she got the assist assist for a goalkeeper That's another fun one. Yeah, and and she just ran on to the ball took her first time finished the keeper was off her line Good goal Amman have some good players. So, you know, it was challenging. I think obviously for for our For go column. Yeah, so so I mean the another impact of the pandemic very clearly here that All of this is happening on a pretty ad hoc basis Players have come together Over a very short time and coach PV Priya, even though she has had a lot of time at go coulomb Unfortunately, she's not had any players or any real system to work with So her focus is probably more on the grassroots and what's happening in the catchment area Kerala and Kerala also hosting the women's national championships Soon so I think things are picking up there on that front, but not much Bigger picture, but we'll follow that tournament as it goes on. There are two more match days to come You can watch the games live on the Jordan FA is YouTube channel live and free So check it out and join in the conversation around women's football because it's only growing and very fast Yeah, and I to just to add to that Cochlear Kerala, they are one of the few clubs who have who are very keen on investing into Women's football from the from the team and from the club and all that and we have had Interactions with Pia in the past, especially after they were in the championship and also last year when we were trying to figure out what they were up to because of the pandemic and Last year was also interesting because they were champions of the iLeague as well as champions of the IWL Exactly the same time So that's that's again a rarity in Indian football that way But but She hinted she said openly in fact that in Carol even in Kerala where the club is there the club's base Code code and around that area some girls have started to come But the structure is lacking for the women's came there for the girls It needs to be and it it goes right across the country and needless to say that and also I mean why are we talking about grassroots when elite footballers are not getting matches to play? So Gokulam Kerala champions and their last played in January 2020 so so as a team so there are a lot of things which we have we constantly talk about in 420 grams Yeah, hopefully as more people start talking about it some of these things will get sorted or not sorted But at least start moving because we've been talking about men's football for 21 years and nothing has changed there So but anyway, we'll leave all that off for another for our next conversation. Finally, you have an update from women's boxing Where Bhaskar Bhatt has been appointed the new head coach of this national team interesting development because of course There was a bit of a post-mortem happening after the Tokyo Olympics where we I mean and I'm glad that we think like that that we underachieve We are not happy with one medal from the Olympic games. Love Lina one of the bronze otherwise There were many boxers who were expected to win medals and they all Underperformed various reasons we had done our own post-mortem on how the laws losses happened but the boxing federation of India submitted a proposal to sports authority of India to get four foreign coaches and Of course, there was a bit of changes that's gonna happen as far as the Indian coaches in the setup is concerned Bhaskar Bhatt is not new to the setup. He was head coach of the youth women's boxing team 2000 from 2017 and before that from 2005 to 2012. He was assistant coach assistant coach with the senior women's boxing team So basically he was there when Mary Kong won that bronze in 2012 so and as as quite a lot of experience in in in in the camps and More interesting than that Bhaskar Bhatt was the coach of the youth team Which finished on top of the medals tally at the World Youth Championships earlier this year in April Seven medalists in the women's team that in that tournament and all those seven women women would be graduating into the senior ranks Some are already there others will be there soon. So Something happy. I'm very happy about that the boxing federation is looking ahead a little bit and Another development alongside it parallel to this is that They also announced the elite women's nationals finished ten days back and They are announced even pre-tournament that the winners of the gold medalist of this of the elite nationals will be given direct selection for the World Championships that is going to happen in December in Turkey and Bhaskar was first assignment so interesting in the sense that Lavlina Bogoheyn and Mary Kong at Skip the tournament saying that they are going to focus on the World Championships and Lavlina has been given a direct entry despite a gold medalist coming from the nationals and Mary Mary come there's no clarity as to where it is. So It's it's heartening to see that we are not going by for repetition or Because Mary come would appeal and then they would open up the selection trial So Lavlina's weight category the winner of the nationals is I don't know the Chaudhary Who was gold medalist at the World Youth Championship interestingly? So she is a good boxer. She's one for the future So she appealed to the Boxing Federation of India just a couple of days back saying that I need a trial it's only fair that I get it but and it was an open letter and BFI as far as Indian spotter concerned open letters are not exactly Taken really well by the administrators. Anyways BFI's policy they have been they're sticking to that. They're saying that For the Olympic medalist we don't we won't give a trial I disagree with that logic because you're looking at a youth world champion and you are Denying her a chance to have a competitive bout against a Olympic medalist. It will only help Indian sport But having said that the general having said that the general Direction in which BFI is moving is is towards the future Pasco Burt's presence would I mean retrace that and also the decision I mean, I don't know whether it will change because may be calm is pretty powerful in the boxing setup but but as far as now is concerned the decision seems to be taking the Young crop of boxes coming up into the into the into the higher level into the senior team All right And I think we can all expect a piece from you soon with all of the implications the wider implications of this so that we can Understand it better when it's down on paper and also some of this will clear up in terms of the appeals process Exactly appeals process and who is going with right that does it for us today then Leslie We've gone over time as usual super fast bollard. Oh, that's all. 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