 Please come. Good morning. Please come sit down. Ms. Madhumita. Yes, sir. What is PIEX? You've done BBA from PIEX. What is the screen? Sorry, maybe it's smelling. Oh, sorry. I had something bad. I think it's spiked. Banipat Institute of Engineering and Technology. And what are your subjects in BBA? Sir, all the subjects that are there, there are lots. Not sis, something specific. Sir, semester wise, like 6-6 subjects each. Financial management, accountancy, business environment. But there are two subjects on which you had to do more work than others. No, sir. So it was some kind of a general course. So all the subjects were there. I mean, MBA, B-studies, specialized subjects. But here, just an introduction. Alright. Now, if you finished in 2015. Yes, sir. Now this is 2020. Yes, sir. So these four years, how do you explain the gap? Yes, I was intelligible for two years to appear for civil services. I was what? I was intelligible for two years. So my first attempt was in 2017. Okay. This is your second or third? This is my third attempt. What happened in the first two? Sir, I cleared the prelims in the first attempt. I could not qualify for the interim. And in the second prelims, I could not qualify. Okay. Yes. In the northeast, very recently, there have been two developments. One was the Bodo Accord. Yes. And the other was the Guru Agreement, a recent plan. Can you tell me something about the Bodo Accord first? Sir, I have actually read Bodo Accord, but I can't recall the details as of now. Okay. But about the brews, I don't remember. Yeah, the brews. They were putting up in Mizoram, I guess. You tell me, whatever you remember. The two states in Olyam, Mizoram and Tripura, they were evacuated from Mizoram and they were temporarily living in some shelters in Mizoram. But now there were talks of repatriation. But these people did not go back because they fear that they will be persecuted again. So they were given some sort of compensation to stay put where they are politically. Okay. Have you heard of this Act East policy of the government? Yes. What was the Act East policy? So previously, the policy was look East. We were not acting on what we were wanting to achieve. But right now, Act East means that we want greater integration with the Asian nations in terms of trade and also in terms of soft power like Buddhism. And in that matter, we were actively negotiating for the regional comprehensive economy partnership act, but that did not come through. And after that, we are also trying to have the BCIM, but work on that has also been stopped because of the China sector. But they were, I think Asian nations were jointly, they were the guests of another public day like last year. So we are actively pursuing other issues. There is connectivity issue, improving connectivity. There is something called the Kaladan multimodal vicinity. What it connects from where to where? Why is it called multimodal? So multimodal is because it involves various modes of transport. Such as? Like railways. Railways? Railways also overland. Where? The terminal point in Argan region, Kolkata. It starts from Calcutta. Yes, sir. And then where does it end? Myanmar is, Rakhine state is the one where it actually starts and it terminates in Kolkata. The Kaladan multimodal is from Calcutta to Mizora. Through Myanmar. Yes, sir. Actually, I was saying it is with Myanmar. It is not from Calcutta to Mizora? No, sir. I was saying that the two countries in my life, I did not talk about. So tell me why is it called multimodal? From where to where? Can you tell me? If you don't know, then I am not asking. No, no, sir. I am multimodal obviously because there are various modes of transportation. Where is the railways in that? That's what I am asking you. Okay. Is there a railways? No, sir. Right. I am sorry, sir. I guess. I suggest you look into this. Okay. Thank you. Have you heard of Kulbushan Jadav? Yes, sir. Who is Kulbushan Jadav? So Kulbushan Jadav is present in Pakistan in facing charges of terrorism. And he was sentenced to death. But then India petitioned in the International Court of Justice. Okay. And they put a stay on that. So what is the situation now? Situation now is that we had asked them to grant us consular assess which Pakistan did. And after that we actually, his mother and his wife were allowed. Consular assessor. Indian diplomat was not allowed to have conversation with him or which we protested also. But after that I think they have been no major developments on that. Now, you know the government had announced a policy of aspirational districts. Yes. Have you heard about that? Yes. Can you tell me something about that? Sir, these are the districts where there is low socioeconomic development. Like in terms of education, scale or health issues, etc. So we wanted to have a list of all these districts and pursue them. How many districts are there? I guess 121. 115. Yeah. And who is monitoring this? Neethi Aayu. Neethi Aayu. How do you do that? So Neethi Aayu basically is an advisory body. That is true. But have they appointed anybody? Sir, there are prabharism officers. So who are the prabharis? Government officials. So I think I'm not actually aware of that. Thank you. You've studied history as a subject. Yes. So if I asked you to mention any three turning points from one Indian history, what could you say? Ma'am, the first would be the revolt of 1857. Okay. Because it was the first time that we ever tried to actually expel British from India. Second would be the formation of international congress because that is when our protest assumed a sort of institutional form. And the third would be the arrival of Mahatma Gandhi because his coming into Indian politics was a sort of transformation from the politics of elitist class to that of masses. So do you think Mahatma Gandhi's philosophy is still relevant? Gandhi's philosophy of truth and non-violent is relevant because non-violent protests are I think the most acceptable form of protest. So do you see any non-violent protests happening currently in our country? Yes, ma'am. There's one in Shreyaengbagh but they're not violent and it's been quite a constable period of time they've been staying there. There's also some attempt to rewrite history. Do you think it's current? The statement? Ma'am, it's essentially a question of ideology. What do you mean essentially a question? Is it correct or it is not correct? Yes ma'am. I mean people try to interpret history according to their own ideology. I mean history is something that is very, you know, just according to their perception one can have any sort of, okay your fact is there but one may interpret it in a different manner the other may interpret it in a different manner. Okay. Now you're from Haryana. Yes ma'am. What are these khap panchayats? Khap panchayats are sort of community organization which adjudicate disputes between people. So are they playing a negative role? No, it's both negative also and positive also. In the recent past they have been associated with honor killings but they have done some positive work also. I remember there was one in Rohatak which had put a ban on using caste surnames. Okay. Now we talk about the sex ratio being very poor despite lots of acts. Can you tell me what the acts are which address this problem of poor sex ratio? Acts. One is PCP and DD and the second is... Okay PCP and DD. Yes ma'am. So we have this act yet the sex ratio in the country is poor in Haryana and Rajasthan also very poor. Yes ma'am. What do you think we are not implementing the law? Actually implementation of the law is there but whenever we try to ban something it goes underground. Illegal business flourishes. If there is legislation or enforcement very strict in one particular state then there are other states where this is not as strict as it should be. So do you think that's the only reason that we have a low sex ratio in the country? That's one of the reasons. The multiple reasons. Yes, mention some. Ma'am one is the attitude of society. Yes. And then there is always a fear of sexual harassment of very unsafe public places. And ma'am then the financial burden of having a girl child is also there. The very moment a girl is born we start thinking about the dowry that has to be given. And it is also that people do not feel like investing in a girl's education is a sort of investment because I think it is also going to go to somebody else. Now coming to your subject, you also studied theories of motivation and agro-government theories. Yes ma'am. On governance. So if I asked you to give me one theory on motivation which would help you to motivate your employees. Which theory would you mention and why? Ma'am I had studied master laws. Okay. There will be something for how you would motivate your co-workers. Motivation would depend. First of all I have to understand what motivates them. Okay. It be financial incentives or maybe they get satisfied with rewards or just recognition. That sort of thing has to be identified and after that I will devise a way to motivate them. All right. Thank you. Yes. You are from Paripat. Yes. Tell me about some major battles which have taken place in Paripat. Three battles have taken place. Actually Empire is shaking three battles have taken place. The first one was between Ibrahim Ludi and Babar. And it laid the foundation of Mughal Empire in India. Thereafter the second battle was between Hemu and Akbar. And it kind of re-established the Mughal Empire because it was on the verge of collapse. Hemu was about to win it and had he actually won then we would not have that strong Mughal Empire that we had later on. And the third one was between the Marathas and Ahmad Shah of Delhi. But you of course you could have written the words of Ibrahim. Oh yes. They took place on the same ground. Now what was the common thing in the outcomes of all these battles? So the incumbent power lost. Well, you can say the invaders won. And second thing is that the superior army is lost. The numerically superior army is lost. But now in today's I have seen that Pani was actually decided because of the history of India. Because the invaders were successful. Now today which country poses the biggest security threat to India in your opinion? I think the two countries are immediately involved. China and Pakistan both. Why? Some reasons. Sir, one is because of the history that we've had with these countries. With Pakistan we had three wars, three major wars. The security threat means they should have the capacity to... Sir, they do have the motive. But on capacity front I think they do not have but they keep threatening us with the nuclear war. China also doesn't have the capacity? China does have the capacity but it doesn't have the motivation. Okay, I take your point. Now have India and Pakistan ever participated together in any joint exercise? Joint political exercise? Sir, since we and Pakistan are members of the SCO, there was one exercise that was carried out. And I think we were able to participate. SCO was the execution exercise for the counter-revolution. Now Haryana has been in the news a lot. I'm telling you this last year. On the issue of parody, what are the causes and what has the government helped to address it? Sir, the cause is that actually there are two various varieties of rice that were grown in Haryana. And the one that is grown in Kethal, Kurukshetra, Yamnanagar, etc. I don't know the name actually but that variety is something that is not edible for the animals. And so it cannot also be used as a, what is it, mulch in the field because it is very hard and it does not degradable actually. So they tend to burn it rather than dispose it off in a manner that it actually eliminates them. And government did also, I think one was penalty that whoever burns it would have to pay some fine. NGD also imposed some penalty, I remember. And then there was also an announcement that whoever doesn't burn it would also get an incentive. And sir, there is this happy cedar which has been subsidized. So if a farmer is willing to use it to actually treat the stubble on the field, then we can do that. You have interested Sanjeeva? Exactly. That's a crude human form of a deity. We prepare the various body parts with the help of clay and then colour it and then affix on the world with the help of cow or dog. In which India are they popular? Sir, it's popular in the northern states like in our state it is called Sanjee, in Madhya Pradesh it's called Jhanjee. So there are various names but in northern states it's popular. Okay. You heard of a scheme called Vivaatsya Vishwas? Yes. Give me some more facts about it. Sir, I know this much that it's a direct text dispute resolution scheme. I'm sorry? Direct text dispute resolution scheme. Yes. So the officials are now taking those people into confidence who have text disputes. The officials are taking? Yes sir. There is a bill which has been introduced in power. Yes, in the budget. How can officials take into confidence? No, no sir. They are informing the people who have text disputes that you pay the principal amount. How can they inform unless the bill has been passed? Sir, I read in today's newspaper that the scheme is... I can't read that. So the bill has been introduced. Give the highlights of the bill. What does it... Sir, I know only... There is a benefit of this. I mean, why is the government doing it? Give me a reason. Yes sir. Because litigations attend to be pursued in court. How many cases are pending? Text dispute cases. I'm not... The courts. What is the volume? What is the worth of them? How much money is involved? I'm not a person. It is to resolve those. Right? Almost five lakh cases are pending. The money involved is more than nine lakhs. Nine lakh crores. Right? Now to resolve this and to get some money out of those disputes. These are unending disputes. They go right up to the Supreme Court. So government has brought out this scheme. It's kind of an amnesty scheme. Now tell me what are the amnesty part of it? Amnesty part is that they pay the principal amount. Interest won't be asked to be paid. Up to which date no interest or penalty will be charged? Sir, I'm not aware of this. You are not right. I've just read that this isn't... You must read. These are the current issues. You must know. 31st of March this year is the final date. Penalty will be waived as well as interest. The scheme will remain open till I think June end. But in that period, after 31st of March till June, people will have to pay, affected party will have to pay something extra. But not the whole penalty system. Why is this scheme being introduced? Sir, just the litigations because they tend to... Government must get this money. Government must get this money plus the amount. Amount is huge and economy is already struggling. If we get that amount, then it will be helpful. You've done mathematics. You've got some award in Olympiad or something. Yes, that was in class too. Now, maths, is there a Nobel Prize in maths? I haven't heard of a Nobel Prize in maths. Any other? Is there just four Nobel Prizes? Five. So maths is not... There is no Nobel Prize for maths as such. Is there any prize which gives a person international recognition? So yes, there are but I don't think there is much. What is the significance of PIL in the constitution? Public interest litigation. And what is the article on which this PIL is based? Article in the constitution. Sir, PIL, public interest litigation is basically a mechanism by which any public spirited citizen can file a petition on behalf of the people who cannot do it themselves. And article, I think, is huge. Yes, article. I'm not sure, sir. Can you name one or two important cases, very landmark cases, which have been decided by the Supreme Court in the interest of public welfare through the mechanism of PIL? I don't know. But constitution, you have not read any of the paper? Sir, I have read but specifically the cases which were decided by PIL. What is the significance of preamble of the constitution? What is its significance? Sir, it explains the philosophy of the constitution and the vision of the founding fathers of the constitution. So, name some keywords in it? Can I read the people of India having solemnly resorted to constitution into a sovereign socialist secular republic and to ensure liberty of thought expression. Liberty of thought expression? Believe, faith, worship. Is that what it says? Yes, it is. Now, there is something called social equality. Yes, sir. Does the constitution guarantee social equality? Yes, sir. Name some specific articles of the constitution which promote social equality? Social equality. Sir, there is article 15 which prohibits discrimination on any court. Good, good, 15. Sir, there is actually... Only name the articles. If I want to ask you more questions, I'll ask. 15 is one excellent, what else? Sir, article 39. Oh, you've gone to 39? 39 is Directive Principles. But yes, it's an article. Directive Principles of... Something which is enforcement. I think it's an article... So, right to equality, I think all articles 14, 15, 16, 17, they all... for social equality as well. All right. 15 to 17, you said, any other article? Sir, these are the ones I... You don't know? There are two amendments in the constitution which devolve political power, political and administrative power to the local bodies. Yes, sir. Which are those? So, 73rd and 74th. 73rd and 74th, very correct. Do they also provide some benefits to shulkas and women? Yes, sir, because one-third of the seats have to be reserved for women. And for SES and STs, seats in proportion to the population. All right. You are a aspirant for foreign service also, second choice. Yes, sir. Right? What is the size of Indian diaspora around the world? Approximate idea, no idea. What is the importance of diaspora for us? The nature of our diaspora in other countries helps us to achieve the objectives of a foreign policy. For example, in USA, the Indian diaspora is very influential. And I've read somewhere that it did play a significant role in negotiating civil... Are they influencing our foreign policy in... I'm saying that influential... In what way? Tell me one area where foreign policy has been controlled by these diasporas in America's foreign policy. So Mr. Trump had one of his... I think he was... There was this person I don't remember the name, but he was with Mr. Trump and in the initial stages when Mr. Trump assumed the presidency, he played a favourable role in... Who was he and in what field did he play a role? In the initial talks between the two countries after Mr. Trump assumed presidency. Check your facts. But there are other benefits which diaspora bring to India. So remittances? Remittances. How much remittances we got in 2018-19? Sir, I remember this much that Indian remittances... The remittances that we get are the highest according to the World Bank, but I'm not aware of the exact figure. You're not aware. $76 billion. How much have we got this year from April to December because after December we have no figures? Sir, I'm not aware of the figures. You don't read newspapers? I do, but... This report came yesterday only. $41 billion. If you don't read newspapers then you're missing a lot of information. I do read newspaper, but this wasn't perhaps in the newspaper that I read. Alright, final question. There's a saying called history repeats itself. Can you give any strong example, not obscure example, strong example, which supports this argument? History repeats itself. Number one, do you agree with this? Maxim or not? Your history student? Do you agree with this Maxim? History repeats itself. Sir, my take is that we should repeat history only if it is readable. You're not answering that. If you are a student of history from history, you would say it. Are there any episodes or incidents which support this argument or don't support this argument? That's what your answer should be, not what you're saying. Listen to a question carefully. Alright, we close the interview, I'll give you a little feedback. Is this your first attempt? So this is my first interview or overall third attempt? Third attempt. How do you think you performed? So I think I need to brush up on my parts. We have asked you questions largely based on your budget. And we feel that is how your interview will be. Some of the areas are like you're from Haryana. The problems of Haryana, the progress it has made in some sector like automobiles, and also IT, etc. GDP growth is very high. So all those things you should work on. And second is history. Next is your subjects like management, etc. We have asked you questions. Fourth is that IFS is also your choice. These are the fourth broad area. There will be Olympics, Maths and all. There are two medals. Maths, Fields Medal is the most field that is able. These are, Fields Medal is considered the Nobel Prize. So check upon this. And also who have received these in the last 3-4 years. Foreign service is your important area. We have asked you questions. In this we have also asked you about Kalatana, Kulboush, etc. These are all very important questions. Then what is happening around India? Pakistan, CPEC, China's moves around our periphery. What is happening in Maldives or Napa, etc. Since you are aspiring for foreign service, these are the things where questions can arise. We have 3-4 initiatives in foreign policy. Act East, Neighborhood First, right? Yes. So who is the most important foreign dignitary who is listening here? He was president was perhaps... You are only speculating. If you are ready to tell? No sir, no. Yes, you are speculating. 20 seconds to 24 seconds. Then you also have to know why he is coming. What are the important issues on the table which we will discuss. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe to our channel. And press the bell icon to never miss an update.