 There are some really gruesome moments in this film. I was wondering if you could talk us through some of your favourite moments of horror in the movie and how you made them so horrific. I don't give too much away, but I will say there's one moment that I almost can't watch every time it happens and it involves one of the main characters and, you know, a giant meathook and it just, I cannot. I just, it just is one of those things that is really, it's even having seen it as many times in the day. I can't, it's very visceral. One of my favourite things in the movie is it's actually in a trailer where a guy snaps his neck back. We did that with old school puppetry and animatronics and so it was very analogue and people love that tactile reality. It makes you feel really uncomfortable when you watch it and it's super gross. There have been a lot of movies that just go insane and go crazy in that one direction. What I really loved about what you did in this movie is that it was really about these characters that you care about, that you relate to, that make you laugh, that you're intrigued by, who are going through these things that are frightening and a lot of times it's the tension of sequences and moments, not just the sort of gratuitous gore. So I really appreciated that. So it looks like there was a lot of practical effects rather than CGI. Yeah, like could you talk us through how you made them? One of the cool things we do in the movie is we had a C-47 on this giant hydraulic gimbal which can tilt the plane on a 45 degree angle and also shake people inside like they're popcorn. There was a lot of documentary attention to detail we put into that plane and it was hot. And when we start shooting the plane we're using real life squibs and sparks and if you were to look at them you'd go blind. So there's real actual danger. The plane gets shot down and Javan, who plays Boyce, the hero of the movie, hanging on for dear life. As his fellow soldier Ford is pulling him out and we were throwing stunt guys down doing his insane rolling stunts. And then also to add to the chaos, we did a fire stunt as well so they're actually hitting fire so they had to get put out of fire hydrant at the end. And the puppetry used to break the neck. Do you still have that puppet? Yes we do. It's that bad robot. In the movie I can't give away too much but it gets, the puppet has a demise. Because we loved it so much they rebuilt it for us, painstakingly rebuilt it so it's now a bad robot. And does it have the action? Can you control it? We can't. We can't. What a perfect thing to just have at home. It was one of a number of things in the movie that I just loved was not done digitally. You can see it on the faces of the other actors. What I loved about what you did is that you made a movie that feels gritty and real and is beautifully made even as horrifying as it is. And it's very much a sort of pulp B genre but I think this gentleman treated it A plus. So you've got not one but two Game of Thrones cast in this film. And a Game of Thrones cinematographer. I wondered if Eva of you would be up for directing or working on one of the Thrones prequel series. Oh I'd be honoured. Yeah that'd be awesome. Yeah that'd be great. Are you fans of the show? Is there anything you'd want to explore if you ever worked on it? Look I'm a big fan of Battle of the Bastards. Doing a big action sequence like that would be really cool. I mean I know that they just did one that was like I think it was 50 days to shoot just the battle sequence. I'm like I'm pretty jealous of that. I am in awe of what they do and they make movies every episode. And I feel like the truth is I probably wouldn't want to get involved and sort of demystify the thing. It's sort of I just like watching it from the outside in. And I've been lucky enough to work with some people. You know Nina Gold who casts the show who I've worked with a couple times now and Gwendolyn Christie who was in Force Awakens. And anytime I hear anything about behind the scenes in that show I always feel like I want them to stop talking about it because I just really love what they create.