 This is Exploring Chiropractic Episode 3. We're going to talk about New Zealand Chiropractic College with Brian Lanu who is a student down there and before we get started just want to say thanks to all those who have been watching the show so far last week's episode with Angel Achoa from Life West got already a hundred views, so I'm pretty excited about that. We are available also on iTunes as a audio download, so if you're out driving in the car and want to take a listen to it, just search for Exploring Chiropractic on iTunes and you can download it there and please subscribe. It helps our readings and helps get the word out to other people. Keep checking on the website ExploringChiropractic.com. Got some more stuff going up there, and we're all over the place as well. Facebook, Twitter, and Google+. So our Facebook groups kind of been growing pretty nicely. We've got I think 70 people that have joined it just in the last week, so I think I contribute that a little bit to Spinal Column Radio as well as last week's episode with Angel. So let's get into this week's show. I want to introduce Brian Lanu who is a student down in New Zealand. How you doing? Doing great. How are you Nathan? Good. It's kind of a pain getting people on here, but I like the Google Hangout format. Hopefully once the word gets out a little bit more, we'll get more people joining in at the same time. But it looks like tonight is just you and me. All right, that's awesome. Let's rock and roll, bud. So you're a student at New Zealand College of Chiropractic. You are also the global correspondent for Spinal Column Radio, is that right? I'm the NZ correspondent, so I've done interviews down here in New Zealand and also in Australia as well. Awesome, and you're also you're running a philosophy club? Yeah, that was one thing that I kind of championed when I came to the New Zealand College. There's one thing that wasn't happening at the moment and it all kind of started when I went to, I used to go to Epoch groups before coming to college, and that was really how I got introduced to chiropractic. My chiropractor at the time was running these Epoch groups in Vancouver, and it was a really great opportunity for me to see some of the great speakers before I even started school, so I came to college with already a great philosophical understanding of what we do in chiropractic. That's kind of surprising it wasn't going on before. I want to ask you more about that. Before we kind of get into the questions, there's a bit of an elephant in the room. Not quite a pink elephant, it's tiny little elephant, but you're in New Zealand, but you kind of sound like North American. You're Canadian, right? Yes, I came from Canada. So what are you doing down under? Well, that goes back to that Epoch group. When me and my partner, we both came down here at the same time and so when we were asking different chiropractors, we'd go to these Epoch groups, which stands for the epicenter of chiropractic, which happened all over the states and Canada, but we'd go to these groups and there'd be 80 chiropractors there, and we just went around the room asking people if you had to do it again, where would you go? If you had to do it again, where'd you go? You know, we didn't have a podcast like the one you were doing right now, so, you know, it was just one after the other, asking, asking, asking, who would you get? Where would you go? Where would you go? And through that process, most people said New Zealand, and so we said, alright, pack our bags, let's go. Wow, that's kind of a big jump. Yeah. Had you visited before? Had you traveled down there at all? No, completely naive. We had moved to Vancouver from Ontario, so I mean, we moved across Canada and we'd done that for about two years, and so we kind of got used to the idea of being apart from family at that point, and I mean, obviously, we'd gone to university and everything, so we'd, you know, we're in our mid-20s by the time we made this decision, and then it's just like, alright, might as well just keep heading west and go all the way down. So where did you go to your undergraduate? The University of Western Ontario in London, Ontario. Okay, so near Toronto. And did you go ahead and get an undergraduate degree or just fulfill the prerequisites? No, I had no idea about chiropractic until I finished my degree, so my partner, Teah, she was working at an office as a CA for three or four years in college, so she really introduced me to the idea and, you know, we started dating right at the end of uni, so I started seeing the chiropractor there and then we decided that we were going to move out to Vancouver together, so I just got under care and then we moved out to Vancouver, continued under care, and then that's when our chiropractor there, who was really tapped into the environment, introduced us to, you know, really chiropractic as an option and going to New Zealand as well. Okay. Now, so Teah, she was a CA before, is she going to the school with you? Yeah, so we're in the same class, we're in school every day together. Obviously, we still live together with our roommate as well, so we see a lot of each other, but it's good. Is it working out pretty well? I think there's maybe one or two couples at my school that do that that are in the same class. There's definitely a lot of couples at the school, you know, that are in different, you know, different phases of their education, but there's a couple in the same quarter. Is it working out okay? Yeah, no, we're going strong. We keep each other motivated and accountable as well. So we, you know, we've run a business here together now in New Zealand. We have the website going, so and I mean, yeah, we're on to it. So what business is that and what's the website? Yeah, we started a little business instead of, you know, we decided instead of working part-time, again another naive decision, but we started making these produce bags and kind of a similar products exist in North America and they didn't exist in New Zealand at the time, so we went ahead and started a business and we've kind of been doing that. Right now, we're actually trying to get rid of it because now we're having some troubles with immigration and visa issues. Oh, are you? So yeah, we're just getting that all sorted and then our website, which is really came came proficient through listening to spinal column radio. You know, when Tom always talks about branding yourself as a chiropractor and that's what we wanted to start doing, so we made a website called our Extraordinary Lives and you can get there just at www.rextraordinarylives.com and Teya posts some awesome recipes up there. I post chiropractic articles on some essays I've written and you know, we're just trying to keep the momentum going. We have like 6,000 views or something. People from like 50 different countries have been tapped into it, so I mean it's cool to see, you know, what happens when you just kind of put yourself out there. That is pretty cool. I'm gonna pull up my browser here and share that with people that are watching the YouTube video. So you should be able to see this right now. Just yeah cool. So it's a blog? Yeah blog format. Obviously you can search the different subjects whether yeah your your main thing is the food or whether it's the chiropractic or you know a combination of both we kind of just post things that You know we're interested in so yeah, it's chiropractic living a healthy lifestyle You know a full rounded approach to kind of health and life So you mentioned before the show you were you said you were training. Were you at the gym? Yeah, so we that's again part of their healthy lifestyle. So we do CrossFit and one of the things that Eric Russell did before he left the New Zealand Chiropractic College was to get us a nice new gym facility. So we moved it downstairs to a spare room We had he got us a whole bunch of CrossFit equipment some new bars bumper plates Some you know gymnastics you know rings and all the The post set up for pull-ups and whatnot. So we have a lot of fun down there now and that's on the campus That's on campus. Yeah, so we we're hoping we just had a few discussions at Western States about our new Facility, but it's probably not gonna be built by the time I graduate unfortunately, but that's great I love that you're you know you're living In practicing Kind of what you preach. I Wanted to mention to you. So I I'm trying to do the same thing as well yeah, and So I'm training for my first marathon Nice and earlier today. I did my longest run yet, which was a 20-miler up in the Canyons and mountains of Columbia Rippin Gorge That would be so if I'm a fidgety or grimacing at all. It's not you it's because I you know I started at 6 30 in the morning and You it was about a you know 3000 foot climb for the first six miles and It took me forever. I was out for almost six hours total much lower than I'd like to be going but Yeah, so anyway just Just so you guys are aware I'm super slow, but it's gonna be really exciting But anyway back to the website though. So this is a blog you said you have 6000 people How did you do that because I have three blogs now and I'm sure it's just me and my mom that read it How'd you get the word out? We just started posting stuff really I don't know like we post obviously through our Facebook networks and everything and it Says at the bottom like we have like 600 something followers and I don't really know how WordPress calculates that but People seem to read it people comment people like stuff. I mean so we do have interactions You go to the stats and stuff, you know, it tells you all The people in different countries and I don't I don't know if that's you know My friends who are traveling or you know, people are legitimately just stumbling through it I know some of the other like recipe websites though. They'll They'll link through to some of our recipes every now and then too. So it's it's really just been a grassroots word of mouth sort of thing That is really cool. You had assumed that is this on wordpress.com or is it self-hosted? Yeah, it knows a wordpress account. It used to say wordpress and then Dr. Lamar called me out on a on an episode spinal column radio and we had to upgrade to the more professional name Meaning getting rid of the wordpress in the middle of the URL. Yeah, I think there's incredible value with having that unique URL And I was just reading a book. It was mentioned on spinal column radio by Lona cook Dr. Lona cook who wrote a book about how she paid off for loans in two years Yeah, and in the book. She says the websites an important thing So we'll be mentioning some more things about that and I'm hoping to review that book sometimes I think I've got like 30 pages left So that's pretty cool. Well, hey, let's talk a little bit of you know what people probably want to know more about than all this geeky stuff I love it, but but New Zealand College of Chiropractic. Let me just pull up their web page and So what do you know, what do you see? On a given day when you go to school. What's kind of the first thing that you see when you get there Yeah, man, it's it's a cool vibe I mean you walk up to the campus and Yeah, obviously you're out in the middle of you're in New Zealand you're in the middle of nowhere I mean we see New Zealand on a map by itself It's like the only thing there you like all you see is blue ocean around you and just barely clip Australia But I mean you were you're still even 2000 and stuff something kilometers from from Sydney Which is like the closest coast to Australia to us So it's pretty far out when you think of like how far we are especially when you're not from here Yeah, so you come on the campus and it's just you know everyone loves chiropractic and you know it is really you know people talk the tick and It's really cool because yeah, we have people from all over the world. We have few people from the States people from Canada people from South Africa and then obviously people from Australia New Zealand and Before a pretty pretty unique Culture here that's pretty cool. So for those watching I'm Pulling out exploring chiropractic calm the schools page where I've got maps of all the schools throughout the world I thought that'd be kind of cool to see where they all fit and I'm And I'm pulling up New Zealand here. So it's right in Auckland. I kind of I'm gonna zoom in as much as I can Because I'd really like you to tell just a little bit about the area You know what what's some of the great things to see in the city? Yeah Do you like living there? Yeah, no Auckland's pretty sweet. I was living in Vancouver before and Auckland in Vancouver the last couple years to hide for fourth of the best cities to live in especially for like young people and So it's really cool. Obviously we're right on the water there You can be at a beach in anywhere from 10 minutes to an hour in any direction It's winter right now, but it's still like you know 15 to 20 degrees outside when it's sunny Yeah, it's it's a rad place to be Any any favorite things as a couple to get out and do Yeah, we've been a tan I've been going out for a couple of staycations recently So I mean we're there's a bunch of volcanoes in Auckland You might not know but the whole kind of cityscape is formed by these volcanoes So you can either go up and you know hike around the volcanoes They're all you know dormant thousands of years Obviously the whole city is built around them As you can see a Rangatoto Island there Wahiki Island. There's some great wine tours You can yet go for a hike or as they call it here go for a tramp Go for a tramp. Oh, yeah in the bush. Do they say in the bush like in Australia? Yeah, they're back There's no outback here is none of space But yeah, you can go tramping the bush and it's really cool when you do because You know all the although the tree life is like ferns and stuff And so it really looks like Jurassic Park and you think there's gonna be you know a raptor That's gonna pop out around the corner or something Nice very cool I've been dying to get down to Australia and New Zealand and I'll just mention real quick kind of the inspiration Well, one of the reasons I want to go to New Zealand and one of the reasons That I'm doing this Google hangout things. There's a photographer in New Zealand probably not heard of him but his name is Trey Ratcliffe and Let's see if I can pull him up on Flickr He's got a website stuck in costumes calm and he's just incredible photographer uses a unique UT unique technique and posts full versions of his pictures for free for anybody to use and but he just moved down to New Zealand and Trying to remember what city is in I'm not quite sure but So here's some of his photos, but he picked it because it's just such a beautiful place You know his business is all online Yeah, and it's but he does these Google hangouts with other photographers around the world at least weekly and I mean, he's making like a million bucks doing it. So here's a beautiful picture of New Zealand. Yeah, that's Queen's Town So that that's down on the South Island. That's a beautiful place to visit. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's where he's living Just gorgeous and of course everyone knows that the Lord of the Rings trilogies were filmed down there Yeah Tourists on that Yeah, we've actually been to Hobbit 10 so nice about it's about an hour and a bit dry from from the city and You can be you go on the rolling hills Once you leave this city, it's all just rolling green hills on the North Island and yeah Yeah, I like those ones down there and some For those listening put it pulling up some images on Flickr, I just searched for Hobbit town I don't know if it's two teas or not But yeah, just gorgeous rolling hills. I love it. Yeah so the whole North Island once you out of the city just pretty much looks like that and They had all the everything set up when we went for filming so it was all is all you know All the hot holes were beautiful and they've now since built a bar there and everything so you can actually go for a hobbit through and You know spend spend more of the day there if you want. Oh, that is really cool. That's awesome So what's the curriculum like Can you give an overview of Kind of the flow from one term to are you on quarters semesters? We're on semesters. So it's four-year program here One really interesting thing coming from North America is that They kind of run off the British system here So you you only have to do one pre-req year before you start chiropractic so the whole the whole program same in Australia the whole programs a five-year program and So at NZCC you do four out of your five years Obviously at the NZCC and then you can do your pre-reqs wherever but obviously to practice in Canada or practice in the States You have to have at least three years of an undergraduate education You know beforehand so that that's what some of the people don't really realize You know Australians and New Zealanders who want to maybe go to practice in the States or go practice in Canada And they don't get that education. They don't get that previous education and Then you know that they can still apply for to go practice, but they it's really on a case-by-case basis That is really good to know because the reason I didn't go down to Australia New Zealand for school Is because I saw that they're five-year programs and I thought no way I mean I'm getting started late enough as it is I think yeah, and I was like no way. It's a dang it. I could have come in Yeah, that was just a pre-req year Wow, ah, that's a bummer And so what what's the flow of the the chiropractic curriculum? When do you start palpation? What are the basic sciences like? Yeah, the first day I was in college. We had Bruce Lipton teaching us immunology So if you haven't heard of Bruce Lipton check him out You know the things he's come up with in the last 40 years are Rad, you know all about epigene. He's pretty much created the field of epigenetics You know being able to you know control your whole environment through your perception So he really you learn a bit of immunology, but then you learn all this other amazing stuff with him And then we went straight from immunology to technique where we were yeah, we were palpating on day one So yeah, your first technique course is all about learning how to analyze for a subluxation That's all you do is you're palpating your motion palpating Checking for heat, you know all the different signs you look you know to find subluxation you learn that first technique You go from there and then Semester two you start diversified and at NZCC we do five techniques So you actually actually do diversified then the next semester you'll do upper cervical gonesthetic extremities And again you learn the generic NZCC subluxation package, but you also learn all the different Packages that go with each technique so for gonestead you learn gonestead analysis You're using the nervoscope you're drawing up lines on x-rays, you know your For Thompson you go through the whole Thompson protocol for activator You go through the activator protocol you're not just using you know like activator as force application You're going through checking analyzing the way someone practices every day You know with these techniques would do it and then obviously right now. I'm in I'm in my Halfway through my third year because the semester is here starting January and then go through till December So we're in a technically our lap one of our last technique classes and we're doing peeds so we're actually we go through how to adjust babies we we have to do a physical exam on on somebody that's four years or younger and Then then in fourth year we can see kids in the chiropractic center Well, so that's in the curriculum. That's pretty interesting At least in my school and I think a lot of the other schools It's you can get it with a club or with seminars. Yeah That's pretty cool. That's all built-in. So five techniques Peeds then we do advanced technique again and fourth year to go and go back over You know stuff you didn't learn the first time through That's awesome Do they focus much on basic sciences like biochemistry and I mean you mentioned immunology in the first Semester, which is crazy. What other basic sciences? Yeah, that's that's the part that you're probably coming from North America or wanting to go back to North America You'd probably have to do a little bit more catch-up on we're just starting to set We're gonna be writing the Canadian boards in February of next year So we're just starting to study for that now and it's a look at some of those questions And it's pretty far out because yeah, it's going back to you know the stuff I learned in undergraduate, you know six eight years ago But I mean Yeah, as far as at the college you do your biochem You're Physiology things like that that's expected in your prereq. So by the time you get to The college here, it's more focused on yeah the immunology anatomy We do three anatomy courses. We do four pathology courses four neuro courses and that starts from like, you know neurology 101 What is a neuron to the tracks and then into you know neurological conditions? Yeah, I'm in neuro anatomy right now talking about all the the medial omniscus and Sponoflamic tract and all that stuff. That's crazy. Keep straight Yeah, you It actually yeah, it gets more fun when you start actually looking at the conditions as much as you know Like past the bummer and you know all that stuff But it's really cool when you can you know see the presentation of someone and be like oh, yeah You know like this and this and this is going on in the medial and mystical tracker that the lateral whatever So you mentioned that You're coming back to Canada studying for the boards. There's some stuff that you're not getting down in New Zealand. What's How difficult is that going to be making that transition back? I don't think it'll be that bad It's just in in CNCC, which is the school in Toronto You know, they're they're real heavy on their science So I mean and that's who writes the board in Canada is it the professors there So in their first year it is science heavy. They do do bio chem. They do I think a full-year immunology course things like that So, I mean it's it's really up to you to kind of do you know a little bit extra study on your own and just Kind of fill in the gaps where you need where you need it Now as a as a Canadian going down to New Zealand, I understand that that's not terribly difficult because you're within the Commonwealth Are there many US citizens that are students at NZCC and do you know at all what that process is like? Yeah, there's there's at least the couple Tatum who she's a chiropractic kid She's kind of out there a wild child But yeah, she's she's come From the States and she wants to practice back in the States. So she's come down And there yeah, there's there's another girl in first year who just started with us so for them it's You know again, it's up to them if they want to be practicing in the States to do that three years education before they come to the college and then And then writing boards, but I a lot more news a lot more New Zealanders and Australians Write the US boards as well just because they like to you know keep their options open So people will be writing Canadian boards US boards British boards, which might be abolished soon and then you know all the other ones to kind of they'd like to just kind of you know keep their options open and usually US boards are a bit less scary than the Canadian boards and One girl that just did them She just absolutely smashed it. So it's definitely You know, we definitely get prepared for You know For those tests down here for sure That's good. Good to hear So you've you've been on Smona column radio as the New Zealand correspondent And I've listened to a few of your interviews with with the new president events at CC So Eric Russell was there for Not too long right maybe a year or two two years in a bit. Yeah, okay And now I've forgotten the name of the new president Dr. Phil McMaster who's been the philosophy teacher at NZNCC since since the school started He's he really helped get NZNCC off the ground and was part of that brain trust that started the school And saw you know the first couple classes through when they weren't registered and they weren't you know, like things They you know, they had to sort all that stuff out as they kind of went along Has there been any focus shift since Eric Russell left or have they continued on With the same goals Yeah, so the board of the college is is real strong and they're they're they're focused and you know, it's really the president's role to come in and You know see the vision through of the board So it's really the board that drives everything and it's really the president's role to Be that be the day-to-day person that's putting through that vision So, you know Phil was the chairman of the board before and then obviously he Resigned his position to run for the president's position So he's been he was the chairman of the board for 10 years. He's been with the college since its inception so I mean He's very much the right person for the job and really wants to see that You really really wants to see the chiropractic vision subluxation focus vision of the NZNCC continue because obviously we've we've had ccea which is The australian branch of the ccee So they're the ones who do their Curriculum reviews and everything for us now so So, you know, they want us to include some, you know some things that To make us, you know So we can practice in the States in Canada and do some of the other the physiotherapy stuff and you know offer this sort of thing so It's really just finding out how to integrate all that and keep it very subluxation Focused as well. Yeah, you kind of brought that up because I watched a bunch of videos from from NZCC on YouTube that were produced when Eric Russell first took position there Yeah, and you know in all those videos. He was mentioning evidence-based evidence-based evidence-based, but now when I listen to interviews with So president is it McMaster? Yeah, I want to get that right. Yeah, President McMaster. It's philosophy philosophy philosophy So I'm I was just curious whether much had changed or whether it was just Just different words that they're using I think it's just different words I mean the focus is the same the research department at NZCC is freaking phenomenal, man They are really great things about it That you know Understanding they're doing research, you know understanding chiropractic from a chiropractic perspective and they're doing a lot of basic science So like how is the nervous system interfered with you know? We have this great philosophy that says you know nervous system interference happens You know bone when a bone's out of place and putting pressure on the nerves and whatever You know, but we're like how's that happen? And that's where a lot of the criticism has come over the last hundred years is just being not being able to say How does that happen? And you know, we often go back to okay There's it takes a dime of pressure to cut off, you know, 70% of the flow of nerve impulses But you know, obviously we don't know if they're good or bad or this or that or you know where they're going where they're coming from So they're just doing basic science research that shows when you're subluxated You know one of their big papers is Subluxation or proprioception so you don't know where your body is in space when you're subluxated as well as when you're not subluxated You know, and that's that's that's been groundbreaking just to just to show that for for the first time and Obviously with with proprioception is huge in anyone's life. Whether you're you know old and you know wanting to Walk upstairs or whether you're you know athletic and want to enhance your sports performance, you know It's just like the foundation groundwork for being human I Certainly could have used a little better proprioception after mile 10 of my run today it was My legs are just lagging So so definitely more of a philosophy focus at at NZCC and you participate in the or you run the the philosophy club there Yeah, like I said, I would have expected there to be something like that when I came here and there wasn't and it and it after You know meeting with some third and fourth years at the time when I was in first year There's people who are definitely interested in it, but it's just never gotten off the ground and I mean There's other clubs and things not as many as Kind of at the American schools because I think we do have you know, we're already covering five techniques were You know a lot of what people have clubs for is covered in our curriculum mm-hmm, so You know, there's diversified club every week on state club and that's all with the people who teach it So I mean you're it's you know an extra hour a week to get in there and practice. There's upper cervical club There's been a research club where one of the researchers Kelly Holt will bring up We'll send a paper out on Monday, and then you'll go through it on Friday and and so I just saw that the philosophy part was missing and coming from that Having that epoch experience where we had every month, you know chiropractor coming through town and getting to you know here you know the philosophy and You know and hear those stories that you know of why you wanted to do chiropractic From the start, you know because you get you do get bogged down by school And it gets to week like nine ten out of sixteen and you're like oh man What am I doing here again and and the in those times you got to go back to your podcast go back to your Philosophy textbooks, you know get out there and you know talk to people in the field even go go observe at people's practices And you see you know people checking people flies being turned on you know, you know kids in there running like for me I want a big family practice and you know kids running around and you know that Organized kind of chaos correct and and so it's getting back into that environment and getting back into that mindset that gets you through You know when times get tough That's pretty cool now you mentioned you're going online for some of these you're gonna use Google Hangouts later this week for the first Time that glove or you're bringing people in from other countries or what's what's the online component? Yeah, so there's people from Australia through those epoch networks through some other chiropractic networks I have and then like I said my Tatum helps me out as well, and she's real connected with like new beginnings and in the States And so we've we've built quite a network of people who's Skyping and skype in with us So it's I mean we've had Leem Chublon a few times People from Canada, you know like I said people from Australia and then we'll get locals in and so we just had Sarah Farron who's been on spinal column radio a few times. She she's a local here in NZ We've had Martha Nestler recently moved to New Zealand. So we've had her Skype in and she's gonna be coming in in person soon So it's just kind of mixing it up between using the resources we have here Having some of those philosophy nights where we literally just sit there and have a discussion and or having you know the Skype come in and Sitting there and list, you know listening to people for tell about their practice for an hour or two or three or four You know, do you have just a small group around a computer? Or do you project it big? How does that what's the logistics of that? Yeah, so we just I just fill out the thing to so we rent out one of the lecture theaters and I put the computer at the front projected on the big screen we kind of all sit in the first couple rows of the classroom and It's it's it's mostly lecture style because the connection usually isn't that great There's literally I think they're doing some upgrade work to the the internet here in New Zealand But there's literally one internet cord that comes into the country So I think where you have something like 600 or something coming into New York. There's one Internet cable coming into the whole country So that can present some problems sometimes especially when you know Skyping people overseas, but it usually turns out pretty well Yeah, I'm pretty happy with how it's working tonight. So that's really cool Well, I've got a few more questions, but I'm gonna take a quick little break here ask for some help from our listeners so I started Exploring chiropractic just gosh not even two months ago. I think and And you know, it's it's a it's a labor of love, but it's not I'm sure as you know, you're setting up your WordPress site, you know, you try to get as many people Joining as you can and and get that community engagement but so You know, I put in some money of my own and I'm you know, I'm not trying to make money off this thing but if people like what what I'm offering here and if If they want to contribute I wanted to find a way that you know, I don't want people to pay me I just want I Want to make it possible for me to continue doing this kind of stuff. So I'm not gonna ask for money. I'm not gonna sell stuff, but a Simple way is if you're gonna buy stuff already You know, you can do it using these affiliate links. So I've done some Affiliate things and the one I'm gonna talk about tonight is Squarespace So Squarespace is a really quick and easy way to create your own website or blog. So there's WordPress out there Which is free and I've had many WordPress sites over the years There's some effort you have to put into it Squarespace kind of takes away all of that Difficulty in the the back-end coding and plugins that you got to add And it's just beautiful. So exploring chiropractic. I created on Squarespace within just a couple of hours You know got the donate domain name and everything And you know in the book I mentioned by dr. Lona cook You know, she said the website is really important. So if you're gonna start a Website for your practice, this would be a great way to do it you can host the podcast you can there's a commerce thing that you can do now and so you can Sell things you can sell virtual books. You can sell actual products. So Squarespace Really awesome way to make a website if you want to start a free trial for two weeks No credit card needed. Just check it out. Go to exploring chiropractic.com slash Squarespace and Sponsors there on our website. I've got a link just called sponsors And so if you're buying stuff on Amazon, you can do that kind of stuff, too So that's it. Okay. I hate doing that kind of stuff, but I am a Broke college student. So so if you like what I'm doing, you know, I'm having fun So I'm gonna keep doing as long as I can but that's something so speaking of internet stuff, though As I've mentioned a couple times already spinal column radio, which is dr. Thomas Lamar's Long-running podcast and I'm bummed that he just announced that he's gonna kind of cut the cord on that How do you feel about that being his his New Zealand branch? I mean, yeah, it's been a great way for Me to kind of connect the people I know in North America with the people I'm meeting down here And I mean there's amazing chiropractors amazing doctors in both places. So it's It's it's been a good kind of outlet for that But I mean, I mean, there'll be something You know, we got you podcasting now So I mean we'll see where this goes and then you know, I'm sure he'll be back I'm sure if he'll be take the break do what he needs to do you know in his own life and then You know, but he has that he has that bug and I'm where you know, I don't think he'll stay dormant for long Yeah, and his stuff is gonna keep going for the remainder of the year, you know, he's got kind of stuff in the feed You know, are we are we wasting our time online? Do you think you know, I'm just geeking out here But is there value with for chiropractic getting online and doing things like podcasts? I Think for sure when I first started school again Before I started the philosophy club, you know, I really would just wanted something that, you know, I could you know I could use to study study chiropractic And that's where that's where I found spinal column radio is that I just typed in chiropractic in the iTunes store to look for podcasts and That was like one of two. I think deed Harrison's one was the other one another one really good resource I go to is life by design and Between you know spinal column radio and life by design and you just get you just get fed the tick like crazy and it's again, it's it's that It's it's one learning what what we do and the second part is just helping you stay grounded Helping you get through what we're doing because it is it is a long process and you know There'll be those those days you wake up and you're like man. Why am I doing this? Why am I here? You know You know those weeks where you have nine tests in a row or something, you know So it's those times that that separately helps helps get you through Do you have any other? Other than those you mentioned few podcasts about other online resources that you find really handy for the chiropractic student Do I look at I would say online resources At ends it's you see one of the other amazing features of the library. We have almost every edition of the green book We have the stress blue books. We have Pretty much we have chiropractic technique books from that, you know, like the fifties like the original That's the guy who created diversified technique. I forget his name, but I can't remember it either yeah, we have his book from the fifties which is just crazy and So it's just being able to go through our library and go through all that stuff is What I've been working on because there's just so much there, you know, you wouldn't be able to go through it in a lifetime And you mentioned This phrase talk the tick and I've yeah, I've heard it so much and I think I have a good understanding But you know I've asked around and a lot of people have no idea or they don't recognize when people say chiropractic or Chiropractic or What does it mean to talk the tick and what what's the deal with the tick at the end? Well, do they have the talk to tick competition at your school day? They don't not that I've heard of at least. I know they have it down at life west. I'm pretty sure they have it at Sherman But no, we don't we don't hear much about it and I've even asked some of our professors what? Have you ever heard chiropractic versus chiropractic and you know again not many people Hear about it other than those that have been immersed in already so just You know for the sake of uh sharing What it is kind of give a background on it Yeah chiro talking to tick is just what is you know, basically what you do in practice every day It's how you educate the people coming into chiropractic You know most people come to see a chiropractor because You know, I hate to spread this you know Spread the stereotype even more but most people come because there's something going on There's some sort of pain because we're raising that alpathic model where you don't you know Very few people go to something to prevent other things or just go because it's good for you I mean, that's why I got a chiropractors because it's good for me. It's a good life decision Like going to the gym like eating a healthy diet, you know, like you know Driving my thoughts with my purpose Those are all healthy Options and chiropractic is part of that So That's how I envision building my practice and educating my people and so that's talk That's talking to tick, you know People come in and we're like, why am I coming in and you're like, you know We're adjusting subluxation turn on the nervous system to turn on your life potential That's what we're doing, you know, and so When you're talking to tick you're You're you're educating and you're you're educating them on the philosophy and why we do what we do And that's basically where it comes from So talk the tick is a competition at a lot of schools, uh, where Students get up Take five minutes. I don't know if there's a time limit and do just what you did where they'll they'll kind of put on a little uh Show where they're as if they're talking to their patient explaining chiropractic And uh, and then they're are they judged or is it just popular vote? Yeah, no, they're they're judged. Um the one down here Um, obviously the ones the ones from new zealand will go over to australia We'll go to a bigger competition the ones in the states all kind of congregate in a new place every year And yeah, they're they're definitely judged I think sometimes they even get some celebrity judges to come on because there's always, you know A couple chiropractors and then a layperson. So, you know, you you get a rounded perspective, you know What they're saying is Sometimes, you know and chiropractic you obviously get to that point where you get all that medical jargon You get all this stuff even, you know too many technical terms and I think I was just at a seminar on the weekend They said if you use um more than three big words to somebody in one Interaction they'll tune you out after that. So if you use subluxation adjustment And you know one more nervous system that's three, you know anything more than that they'll tune you out So it's kind of about using more familiar words to talk with patients and help them understand it in that way Yeah, Reggie gold said keep it simple stupid. Yeah But what's the difference between chiropractic and chiropractic? Is it a focus on philosophy? It is because if you don't have that focus on philosophy, you know, there's no focus It's You know adjusting the spine to enhance the the function of the nervous system is what we do And we do that through correcting subluxation and then if you're not doing that you're not in my opinion, you're not doing chiropractic But can you be doing chiropractic? You can be doing, you know, it goes back to if you're doing manipulation or you're doing adjustment You know manipulation is moving stuff adjustment is correcting the one sublux you know the subluxation the primary that'll have an effect on the whole body Okay, that's an interesting differentiation in the in the definition um I don't think everyone would would Would separate them that way. So that's kind of interesting I have an essay on it on my website if you want to geek out later and check it out Oh, do you on your blog? Yeah on that. Okay. Well, we will send people there. Um, so I gotta ask this i'm asking everybody this Ended cc sounds like a really great school lots of good things going down. Um What if you could change one thing though, what would you think you would change? Probably the actual physical location of the school. It's um a bit out of the city. So it's you know, it's still close. I mean You kind of lose your perspective like because have how big north america is You know, it's it's not out of the question to drive half an hour or an hour to get somewhere one way and or two or three You know, um people and people in auclund if you have to drive for 10 minutes. It's too far So the the school is only about five or 10 kilometers outside of the city But I think it would be it'd be a Better experience for me. I'm more of a city person I like to be in the hustle and the bustle to be, you know, actually out there All right. Yeah, that doesn't sound too far. I'd I'd run that every day. Yeah Awesome. Okay. Well, ryan lanu. Thank you so much. This has been really cool Uh talking about new zealand college chiropractic Um, where can people find you online if they want to find out more and uh, You know, what websites do you want to plug? Yeah, definitely. Um, check out spinal column radio. Check out our extraordinary lives dot com Uh life by design podcast if you want to know more just, you know You want to get chiropractic in your head spinal column radio life by design art extraordinary lives find me on facebook if you want to get a hold of me and Or yeah comment on the blog because that would be awesome And again, yeah, thanks, Nate for this interview. It's been great Yeah, thanks again for joining don't go away. Uh, we'll chat afterwards, but uh, just want to say thanks to everyone watching And if you're listening to the podcast, thanks a lot. Uh, you can find extraordinary Exploring chiropractic on facebook on google plus on twitter And please join. Um, join the community if you want to participate and ask your own questions I'd love to get feedback from others Uh, and just a quick note because i've gotten since i've started this i got lots of uh, Facebook friend invites and i really appreciate it I do try to keep facebook to friends and family that i that i actually know but you can find me on so many other places Uh, i'm on linkedin. I'm on google. I'm on twitter. Just nathan cashing Pretty much on all of those. So I do want to connect. I do want to hear from you But i'm just trying to you know keep facebook to true friends. That's I've just done that ever since I started But thanks for your interest and thanks again for watching tonight This has been uh episode three of exploring chiropractic with brine leneau at new zealand college of chiropractic Check out exploring chiropractic.com for our other shows and you keep in touch with what's going on in the Chiropractic college community. Thanks a lot