 And Rob Creckle, how do you want me to introduce you? Just as sound designer, that's fine. Sound designer for, can I mention the games you've designed sound for? Sure, yeah. For games such as? Such as, that's good. Yeah, all right. Cool, you ready? Yeah. Thanks for doing this, man. Thanks for having me. Here we go. This is the Daily Tech News for Monday, September 22nd, 2014. I'm Tom Marin joining me now. Rob Creckle, a sound designer on games such as The Last of Us and Uncharted 3. And just a really all around good guy. I've gotten to know over the last couple of Dragon Cods. How's it going, man? It's going pretty good, Tom. Thanks for having me on. I feel like I know you from Dragon Con, even though we both live in Los Angeles. It's just one of those oddities of the way the world works. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, Dragon Con is kind of one of those melting pots where everyone seems to mingle. It is. It's the Ellis Island of geek culture. That's a great way to describe it. And if The Last of Us ever made you cry, you owe that in part to Rob Creckle. So just keep that in mind as well. Definitely in part. It's a big team of guys over here. They're all like top of the industry. Take a look at the headlines. Breaking news, people. Apple sold a lot of phones. According to GigaOm, the company reported the sale of 10 million iPhones 6 and 6 Plus between this past Friday and Sunday, which beat last year's 9 million sales of the 5C and 5S models. That may not seem like a big leap, but remember iPhone 6 has not gone on sale in China yet this time due to a delay in approval for sale. So they beat it without China, and they had China on board last time. Yeah. It's interesting without China, you say, but I just watched a video about the line sitters, and it seemed like many of them are sitting for the black market to ship them to China immediately. So some sales over there may have been represented is what you're saying. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. I went to the Apple Store over in Century City this weekend, and there was a line to walk in the store. They're like, here's the line for people who reserved an iPhone, here's the line for people who want to buy an iPhone, and here's the line for people who just want to walk inside, which I thought was hilarious. Although once I got inside to just walk around, it was kind of nice not to be like packed wall-to-wall. I'm giving that. Yeah. TechCrunch reports it has five sources of whom many work at Apple and Beats who say Apple will discontinue the Beats music streaming service. Sources could not agree on whether this would mean it would be rolled into iTunes or what would actually happen, but they all agreed that it will be going away. Now, Beats Music just launched an app on Apple TV, but it's conspicuously absent from iOS 8 in other places, Rob. Yeah. I mean, Beats Music, they have some really good exclusive music there, but it seems a very odd competing product now that Apple owns them. It seems logical that they'll probably make it go away real soon. Yeah. I feel like the one question is, will we see an iTunes music streaming service that's essentially Beats under the iTunes brand? I get that Apple doesn't like to have multiple brands like this. I feel like LaLa, where it just goes away. Yeah. I think that they'll probably leverage whatever technology that they gained or personnel maybe to make something like that happen. But yeah, I think the Beats brand, at least for music streaming, is going to go away. Yeah, for sure. Giga Home Pass is long a Wall Street Journal tip that HTC will make Google's upcoming 64-bit tablet, which is likely to be called the Nexus 9. That would make it the first Google device to run a 64-bit version of Android. The next version of Android, Android L, will be 64-bit capable. There's a couple phones out there capable of running it, but they're not made by Google or in conjunction with Google. HTC hasn't manufactured a tablet since the HTC Flyer in 2011. Remember the Flyer, Rob? No. No. HTC might be kind of glad that you don't remember the Flyer. Probably, yeah. Tech in Asia reports search engine DuckDuckGo has been blocked in China. The Great Fire Index, which keeps track of this sort of thing, suggests it may have been blocked starting September 4th. The New York Times published an in-depth piece yesterday about the trend of stricter controls on internet companies in China. Google operates out of Hong Kong, but they've been seeing problems even with ads being served in China. And also, messaging services Line and Kakaotalk have been blocked, among many others. The Toronto Star reports that BlackBerry will sell its newest passport smartphone. That's the square one for $599 off contract in the United States. That's a couple hundred dollars cheaper than the unlock prices for, say, the iPhone 6 or the Samsung Galaxy S5. The 4.5-inch square smartphone is the first totally new BlackBerry device to come to the market since CEO John Chen joined the company. Pricing for Canada has not yet been announced. Because BlackBerry is a thing, right, guys? Right? Remember us? That's what John Chen is hoping is that it will become a thing again, because passport, because square. Nobody has done a square smartphone. I say that, and of course, five people are going to email me with some small company somewhere that did a square smartphone. But I don't know that I wanted one. I don't think they have the cool power to say that this is what you want, this square smartphone. They're not at Apple, so. It just fits perfectly in your passport holder. That's what I, I don't know. You know what? BlackBerry has been gone through enough. Let's give them a chance. This, I think there's some good stuff here. So 500, I'm going to give them 100% positive vibes for having a reduced unlocked price for a phone, rather than the freaking $1000 you pay for 128 gig unlocked iPhone 6. It's ridiculous. Fair enough, fair enough. Hey, connector cable and communication port protocol fans. Listen up, and I know you're out there. The Video Electronics Standards Association, aka VISA, announced Monday it's teaming up with the USB 3.0 promoter group to have a baby, kind of. And that baby will be called the display port alternate mode for the USB Type-C standard. Ah, it has its mother's reversibility. That means devices can now connect to existing display port monitors using a USB Type-C cable, or a USB Type-C to display port converter, as long as those devices support the display port alt mode. A dock could support 10 gigabit per second USB data transfer and support a 4K display port monitor. Essentially, this is doing what Thunderbolt already does, says, hey, we can do high data throughput, and we can also support a display port monitor in one connector. Time now for some news from you. These are things submitted at our subreddit, dailytechnewshow.reddit.com. SwiftPause passes along the word that Google no longer requires new users to create a Google Plus account when signing up for any Google product, Gmail, or anything else. According to a PCMag retelling of a marketing land report, the Google Plus account is now presented as optional during the sign-up process, though you'll still need a G Plus account if you want to do things like leave comments on YouTube or leave app reviews. I guess their feeling is we can force people into Google Plus in other ways without annoying them right from the sign-up process. This is a very strange thing to me. I don't know why they're splitting it when they really just brought it all together very recently. It seems like this could be one of the many Google products that may be going the way of the dinosaur. It makes you wonder, right? I'm putting a little bit of the affiliation to that. Facebook not for a reason. There's no tree to your left, and that explains why they're changing policies because these were all his policies of unification. But, I just, I wonder, as they always say, is, like, oh, no. Google Plus is still, we're still using it and promoting it and adding it to things. And it does have enough use right now that I can't see them just I think they're just trying to figure out what to do with it. Alan AV called our attention to the Anantek report that Samsung is aware of a problem with two of their solid state drives, the 840 and the 840 EVO, that have caused low read performance on older data. Samsung engineers are working on updated firmware, and as soon as the fix has been validated, they'll get that out to end users, though no ETA has been announced. But if you're thinking about buying a solid state drive, you might want to hold off on the 840s for just a bit, and you might want to make sure your data's backed up if you're using one of these. Finally, Cat and Kipper submitted the best long read of the day from Ars Technica. It's a terrific account by Cyrus Faravar about an Italian restaurant in Richmond, California, which is trying to become the worst reviewed restaurant on Yelp in order to highlight their frustration with what the restaurant owners believe is Yelp's aggressive sales tactics. Restaurant's offering a 25% discount to anyone who writes a terrible review. Yelp predictably is not pleased, saying the restaurant owners are violating Yelp's terms of service by offering incentives in exchange for reviews to which the restaurant owners wrote that Yelp is violating their terms of service, but being pushy, essentially. In case you were wondering, according to the author of the article, it turns out that the food at this restaurant is awfully tasty. Yeah, the email exchange in this article is fairly hilarious between Yelp and the restaurant owner. It's worth reading, I think, just for that. Yeah, they did a nice job of basically parodying Yelp's very earnest and sincere request to please stop encouraging your customers to leave bad reviews. This is not a good idea. A Harvard study has shown that this is not a good idea. These guys don't care. Look, as Cyrus Faravar's article, which is fantastic, makes clear, these guys decided to open an Italian restaurant in Richmond because they didn't care about things like customer service and maximizing potential. They just wanted to make food. They wanted to make food their way and not have to mess with all of this other part of running a restaurant. And that's what they're doing. So this is hilarious. That's amazing. And that is a look at the headlines. We have Daily Tech News Show shirts. If you're interested, I always like to let people know about stuff like that. You can find it at slashloot.com. Just look for the podcast section. And it's the DTNS logo from Mustafa from the pullercat.com on there. They're available in white, black, and ash. Check them out. T-shirts slash loot.com. Oculus Connect happened over the weekend and Oculus, among many announcements, the big one was showing off the new prototype Crescent Bay. They've got a new design. It's now more lightweight, more ergonomic. They bought the industrial design from carbon recently. So one would expect this is probably a product of that. Another things that they've added, 360 degree head tracking. So the external camera now tracks the back of the rig as well as the front. So you can turn your head all the way around. An upgraded screen. They wouldn't release any details about it, but the reviewer said it definitely was a better screen than DK2. It's lighter. It has integrated headphones. So you don't have to have a second cord running up. And they say they're going to license real spaces 3D audio, which was developed by Visa Sonics out of the University of Maryland. Oculus CEO Brendan Arriba donated $31 million to Maryland to build a VR lab there. So that's probably where the connection comes from. He went there for a year or so. Among the demos, a demo from Epic Games called Showdown, a computer demo, a partnership with Unity platforms supporting Rift on all of their official platforms, the free and the paid versions. What did you think of looking over all of this coverage here and people saying, this definitely is pretty close to consumer availability? But then Oculus, Rob's saying, nope, we're not ready to announce any kind of consumer availability. Could be this year, could be next. We're not saying. I love the way Oculus has actually been rolling out their dev kits publicly and letting people get ahold of them and letting the press see each iteration. And I think that's amazing. I think it's just really good for hype for the device, but also great to show a little bit of inside baseball on how VR is being made. That is something that I'm a big fan of, getting to see how the sauce is just made. So I'm a big fan. I think it's the sincerity of what Lucky and Friends are doing that helps them navigate this. I mean, this could be a PR disaster if they kept showing a prototype that got a little bit better every time and there's no consumer availability. They could be getting trashed. People would be saying, it's vaporware. It's never going to come, but they've had the opposite reaction. It's been very favorable. And I think it's because when they do these demos, they don't come off as people trying to palm something off and cover something up. They come off as somebody's like, yeah, we're showing you what we've done since the last time we talked. And you can see why we're not ready to give this thing out yet. And they've also let it out to developers. And it actually really seems like they're making good use of their aspects from Facebook and from Carbon because the actual device is much nicer looking. The tracking dots all over the place obviously are making a big impact on head tracking 360 degrees, which is a big deal. That can help to eliminate a lot of the emotion sickness that a lot of people tend to get because you can tilt your head. So that stuff seems really key. And now it's just, I think as time goes on, it's what are people going to do with this thing, right? That's like the big question. What's the killer app? Yeah, there was a lot of discussion of that in the coverage that I read. In fact, Eric Johnson of Recode quoted several devs that he talked to at Connect saying they thought it might be a social kind of application that starts off the Oculus killer app. Obviously, it's going to be games. They're going to have games at launch and it's always going to be games. But the thing that really gets people to use it in large numbers might have to be something social. There's also movies out there. I mean, there's a couple of firms working on making movies tailor made for this experience so that you can look around and choose what you're looking at within the movie. If you had to guess what kind of thing and you're around a lot of game development, so I feel like you might have a little insight here. What do you think could end up being the thing that captures everyone's attention? I really firmly believe it is going to be a game. I mean, I think social is definitely going to be a huge part of it, maybe like a metaverse or a second life, something where people can just jump in and sort of walk around. But I really think a game and it's probably not going to be like unreal or something crazy. It's going to be something simple like with the Wii, it was bowling or the Wii sports stuff. It was very simple, easily accessible, very easy to understand by people who are not gamers. I think it's going to be something like that that really is going to be used to kind of show off the technology. So it might be a game in the social aspect. So you have like your second life type thing and you can play simple games. You can play horseshoes, you can play bowling, you can do these things. And that might be the killer app that just shows people, holy crap, this is amazing. That feels like the right thing and I don't know who makes it or what that game is. But the idea of it being social, I think the reason you have so many devs talking about that is because this is perceived from the outside as a very isolated thing, right? You put the goggles on and you can't see anybody and you look funny and you're in this world alone. And so I think overcoming that for people who are curious is to say like, hey, but you can all get together and do this thing and you can be in the same room or not, but you'll be able to do this thing. And that was what I think made the we so appealing to people who otherwise wouldn't have been into game consoles at all was, oh, this is natural. I can pick this up. I can do this sort of thing. And because you can't pick up a gun yet, maybe you will by launch time and in the Oculus, something that involves people communicating with each other and sharing an experience seems like it would be the sort of thing to capture imagination versus a particular type of game that we already know how to do with a controller being ported over somehow. Yeah, I don't think that's what's going to be exciting. I think the controller that they end up coming up with or somebody else ends up going to be extremely important to this like adoption. I don't know if it can be the traditional sort of like paddle controller that we're all used to. I think there's a couple of companies and the name is escaping me right now that are actually making like gloves like haptic style finger tracking gloves and that might be maybe charades into the game, Tom. Maybe you're doing virtual charades. You know, you say that, but who would have thought bowling was the thing to kick off Wii, right? Maybe it is. Maybe it's some like super modern hipster charades version that somebody comes out with. I do think you're right about the gloves though. Those seem to be the best the best bet for some sort of control interface there because so that you can just because what this is all about 360 degrees, they were standing, even though they still say this is a seated experience, they had them standing in this demo. It feels like they just want you to be able to get into this world and go and not have to think about what you're doing and gloves would fit with that. What about the sound? This is the first time we've seen a prototype with integrated headphones. They weren't the greatest looking headphones, but they were definitely better, according to the reviewers, than having a separate pair of headphones stuck in your ears. And this idea that they would license the real space 3D audio from Visit Sonics means they're trying to do some things that play into the 360 degree virtual world. So you have a 360 degree virtual sound as well. I'm happy to see that they're integrating headphones. I think that's a good first step. Because having had one of these headsets on before, like putting the headphones on over the band, it just makes it very uncomfortable. It takes you out of the experience too. Yeah, it takes you out and having the headphones integrated is great for ergonomics, if nothing else. But the fact that they're thinking about audio at the inception of this thing is really promising. Real space is an interesting choice for them to partner with. I think there might be a connection, like we talked about, through Maryland, which makes sense. But there are a couple other companies, one of which is a plugin called 3Dception by 2 Big Ears. And they're also going to be supporting virtual reality. And they currently, they support a number of different platforms, Unity, Ys, Native SDK, Pure Data, and Max MSP. And Ys in particular is important, because that is industry standard audio middleware throughout the industry. And this is for console games, PC games. That being supported is great for the top tier developers. And then Unity obviously is huge in the indie scene. So those being supported is very important. Yeah. And we saw Unity has a partnership with Oculus now, which makes that development a lot easier. And you've got the Unreal Engine there being demonstrated by Epic. Right. It's all sort of coming together, isn't it? Yes. And I think it's interesting, though, because another thing we talked about was these technologies are sort of very infantile. These two companies in particular, when a lot of game companies, including some that I've worked for, we've been working in this space already in a way. When we work in surround sound, it's still virtual 3D, right? You still have to simulate sounds moving around you. Now this is just taking into a more minimal level with two speakers attached to your head. But there's various techniques for recording and lots of different algorithms to simulate certain processing that can be used to simulate sounds moving around you properly. So it's going to be important for people in the reality of VR. The audio is going to have to match the visuals. If you're designing a game for Oculus and they say, we've licensed real space 3D audio, does that help you in any way? Does it hinder you? Or does it matter if you're like, well, we already have our own solution here? It depends on the developer. A lot of indie developers are going to be great that there's some solution that they can immediately plug into and say, okay, we have something we can look at. We have something that other Indies are using and we can kind of collaborate and make something out of that. Bigger developers, they're going to take it or leave it, and they'll use their own software or they'll adopt this and they'll modify it and change it in a way that makes it work. It's definitely not a negative for sure. Yeah. Well, and you were pointing out before the show that real space does this thing with a stick and audio cameras where they try to localize the sounds that they're hearing not only in space but also with video, which is great for sporting events or transporting you to the middle of the concert, and it's even got some security and defense applications apparently. But that isn't necessarily what you could do for a video game. So it implies that they are really thinking beyond just the gaming platform and saying, we want to open this up for other types of uses, maybe a movie theater type of use, I don't know. Right. Yeah, having a audio camera, I think is what they called it. That would be great for a sporting event. You basically stick that in the middle of the stadium and it's going to be at all locals, all the sound of the event that's happening based on where you're sitting virtually or standing or whatever it is. And that's very cool for those live events. Less useful on the game side, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it won't be used for something. Yeah. All right. Let's take a look at the calendar real quick speaking of video games Xbox one set to launch in India. In fact, I think with the time difference, it's now launched in India. I think it's already September 23rd there, 39,990 rupees. That's exactly the same as the PS4 launched at back in January. They were supposed to have an Xbox one launch in China today as well. They are still, and when I say today, I mean September 23rd because it's tomorrow there. They are still having their event in Shanghai apparently, but they're only announced that the Xbox one is delayed in China. They haven't really explained why. And Sony's PlayStation TV has been announced to be coming to the U.S. on October 14th. That's the smaller version that can play the Vita games. It can stream PlayStation games. It's kind of being billed as an extension to your PS4. You have your PS4 in your main gaming area and this can extend it into other areas. It's essentially a Vita in a box is what it is and it's coming to the U.S. October 14th. Our pick of the day comes from Dave. It's an add-on for XBMC, which is now called Kodi, by the way. They're transitioning that name. The add-on is called Pseudo TV. Dave writes, as someone who will soon be moving into an area that has Comcast as the only option for cable, I figured I would attempt to cut the cord more or less. I have a PC hooked up to my living room TV and I'm one of those digital hoarders with a four terabyte external drive nearly filled with movies and TV shows, mostly ripped from my own personal collection because who has the space for 600 DVDs these days? Dave says, my wife and I would stare at a list of movies on TV and usually end up switching back to cable, watching a censored and cut-up version of something we already owned on DVD or on the PC. So I did a little looking around and found an add-on for XBMC called Pseudo TV Live where you can set up your own channels and flip through your own local content as well as online content. The add-on comes with a few dozen RSS feeds set as channels, including Twitter and Scam School. The add-on has a built-in channel guide and has almost indistinguishable from a real cable system, although it can be somewhat frustrating to set up once you get it working properly, it becomes a very viable alternative to cable. I have had it set up and working properly for a couple weeks now and my wife and I have not turned back to cable since, except to watch the bears stomp on the 49ers last Sunday, he says. Did he turn on cable just for that, wasn't over the air? I'm not sure. I think he just wanted to get a dig in the 49ers, which I don't care. I'm not a 49ers fan. Are you, Rob? No, not at all. But Pseudo TV sounds like a pretty good extension, no? Yeah, I mean, this is viable for me because I'm very close to cutting the cord. I'm wondering what the speed is because that's one thing that just annoys me about regular cable boxes is that channel surfing is not what it once was. Yeah. You know, clicking through channels takes an annoying amount of time. So I'm wondering what the speed would be on something like this. It's silly, but it's something that actually matters to me. It's going to be limited by the load time, right? Because everything that they're putting here is going to take a moment to load. Presumably, the things on your local network will load faster than the things they're streaming over the internet. But yeah, you're always going to have that lag. We cannot replicate the analog flip flip flip of the 1970s yet. Why not, Tom? That's what I want. Someday. Someday we'll get back to that. I know we will. I remember getting digital TV for the first time from AT&T of all places, the pre-merger AT&T back in 1999. 1999 or 2000. I think it might have been 2000. And just being like, what? I can't just hit up and it goes up. I have to wait for it to load. This is ridiculous. Yeah. And it's been bad ever since. I feel like I'm getting old, Tom. You can send your picks to feedback at dailytechnewshow.com and you can find my picks at dailytechnewshow.com slash picks. All right. Got a couple of messages of the day to get to before we finish up here. The first one comes from Marcelo in Brazil. He was driving to Rio while he recorded this. I assume he wasn't driving or else that could be dangerous. But he did sort of the file that I got was cut off right at the beginning. So if it starts abruptly, my apologies. But here's what Marcelo has to say. Here from Brazil, I was catching up on the episodes as I was driving from São Paulo to Rio de Janeiro. And on Thursday, you guys discussed the Apple announcement that they don't monetize data. Looks like a genius move on their side. If you look at the big bets from Apple, they are all around personal data. They presented the Apple Watch as the most personal device they ever had. They used the personal term a lot of times during the presentation and health data, financial data, even home kit. This is all about personal data. And if they bet that people will jump headfirst into quantified self going forward, only makes sense that they're breaking their competitor's leg by putting out there that these guys live out of sharing your data. My thoughts. I'm a proud patron. I devour every episode. Keep on the good work. Thank you. I wish I knew more Portuguese to thank you properly, Marcelo, but I appreciate that. And I appreciate you taking the time and effort to send that to us. He's dead on about the personal data. And that being one of the reasons that Tim Cook took that, took those kind of veiled jabs at Google in that privacy policy letter is to say, we all know you want to store your health data, your financial data, all of this stuff with somebody. We don't have an interest in spying on that, store it with us. Rob, do you think that is compelling? Do you think that people buy that? I buy it. I'm a big fan of big data. I'm an overshare. I think we all are in some way on Twitter or Facebook. But I am more apt to give it to Apple if they're going to carefully store it for me and then give it to only the things that I want it to go to versus going to say Google and it's sort of being lent to whoever wants to pay money for it. So I think it's definitely a good thing. I think those are good points. My hesitation with Apple in storing too much data with them, and this may be true of any big company, is that I worry about data portability. Google for all of their monetization and wanting to scan your emails and all of that does make an effort to say, we are going to tell you what we're doing with your data with a transparency report, your data out of things whenever we can. And so they've at least committed to data portability. And for the most part, they've acted on it. Apple, I feel like their tradition is we own the data that you store with us. And while we won't be nefarious with it, if you leave the Apple universe, you're not getting it back from Apple saying you could take it with you if you left. Yeah. I guess that is one of the biggest positives with Google is that you can pretty much remove your data from them at any given time. They're very easy about that. But I don't know. Everything in my ecosystem, I mean, this is obviously just my mileage, but everything in my computer, my phone, all the devices I use are pretty much Apple. So it just makes sense for me personally. Yeah. Did you get a six? Not yet. I just got a five S recently and I'm like, every two years, I can't just spend the money. Yeah. Yeah. No, I had a baby, Tom. Damn it. Yeah, you don't want to tell the baby. The baby won't understand that it can't eat today because daddy bought a six plus. I get you. Yeah, exactly. And our final email is about the six a few shows ago. I asked folks for their reviews and their feedback on the iPhone six. And we got here from time lady who says, I got the iPhone six plus and for a few reasons, I could say I am getting it because I'm an academic who lectures in IT topics. I'm also mobility impaired. So in a wheelchair, an electric one like Stephen Hawking has as well as manual at times, having an iPhone, iPad mini and MacBook Air is a lot to carry. The new phone replaces two of those devices. So that's a huge convenience. The security and improved iOS eight functionality is hugely convenient as well. Try reaching those card readers at checkouts that are often mounted in a fixed position when you're in a wheelchair. So TLDR version, shiny tech, cool concepts for teaching potential makes my disability less inconvenient, thus enhancing my life quality. And isn't that really what tech should be aiming for? Wow, that is a compelling reason if it's again, especially if you're living in the Apple universe to say, I'm going to replace two of these devices with one now. That's pretty fantastic. It is an interesting point to make that the six plus does sort of replace your phone and your iPod iPad mini. That's, I don't know if they really want that they want you to keep those, but it's sort of an interesting point. Thanks for the email time, buddy. That's a great perspective to have. Appreciate you writing in. All right. And thank you, Rob Krekkel for joining us. You can follow Rob on Twitter. He's Rob Krekkel, R-O-B-K-R-E-K-E-L. And what what sorts of things might they find? Should they follow you, Rob? You follow me. I post a lot about game audio and audio, but tech in general. I'm a big tech guy. But in addition to working on games, you'll get little tidbits of stuff I'm working on, but I'm also a sound designer for movies and other things. And if you're interested in filmmaking or you require some sound effects for your films, you can actually go by Bitly slash Triune S effects. And you can check out some of the sound packs that I made with the Filmrite guys, if you're familiar with that YouTube channel. Yeah, absolutely. So these are freely downloadable? They're not free. They're for purchase, but there are many packs. They're broken up into the most basic pack, which are very cheap and the more expensive packs, which kind of encompass everything. So there's guns and melee. We're not talking about like, I threw three or four sound effects at their people. Like you want a 357 Magnum sound effects pack that actually sounds like a 357 Magnum. This is the place to go. Right. There you go. This is crazy. Exactly. And they're all drop and ready. They're, you know, the idea is that they're for indie filmmakers or YouTubers to just take and drop into their films. And, you know, they don't have to worry about it. You get pro quality sound for these. Nice. And they've got some scores over there as well. That's really cool. So yeah, once again, bit.ly slash triune SFX. That's T R I U N E S F X. And we'll make sure this gets in the show notes as well. Rob is great talking with you, man. This was really fun. Thanks for doing this. Yeah, thanks, Tom. I love, love D T N S. I am a Patreon, so I'm very happy to be on the show anytime. Well, thanks to you and the other 4,285 patrons for supporting the show. I really do appreciate it. Daily tech news show dot com slash donate is the place to go if you would like to support the show. 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I'm glad we had a topic like Oculus today too because it's a nice cross section of wasn't top of the news so we weren't necessarily like repeating something something that I know the audience cares about and then we can have an ongoing kind of wider conversation but also plays into one of your areas of expertise as well. It's great. That kind of coalesced nicely. Yeah. That's good. And oh, you know what, when we were talking about the iPhone 6 plus replacing the iPad mini and a laptop, Curtis B in the chat room was saying that's why I'm getting a 6 plus won't even need a laptop bag anymore. I don't think I could do that because there are things that I do on my laptop that I just cannot replicate even on a 10 inch tablet. But the idea that the 6 plus is capable or the note for that matter doesn't even have to be the Apple product is capable of what my laptop 10 years ago was capable of fascinates me like if we could just get rollable screens and keyboards so that, you know, you're only carrying around the processor essentially and then you just plug it into whatever format you want. Yeah. Or really, you just need one of those projector keyboards. You don't even need the flexible one, right? You know, I tried one of those out again at Brookstone this weekend. They're still not very, they work, but I mean, when it becomes viable maybe. Yeah. They've got some, they've got some work to do. Hey, Tom. Yes. Okay. So I accidentally opened FaceTime just randomly during the show. So now it has seized my video, but I'm still here. Okay. That's all. So we're now speaking with the Abyss. You're now speaking with the logo. Who are you FaceTiming with? So we can say hello. Nobody. It just, I think FaceTime's app sometimes just is near another app that I'm opening and it opens by mistake and then the entire universe collapses in on itself. And the settings in Google Plus or the Google Hangout won't take it back. That's messed up. Very polite app. Oh, no, no, that's yours. So, Rob, that was a great show. Great show. Thank you. Thank you. Come back. Anytime, anytime. I mean that. Yeah. It was really fun. I love when we talk about audio stuff. So we just hang around and edit and do stuff. So if you are like, have five minutes left in your lunch break, drop off. But if you want to stick around, stick around. I actually got about 20. So I'll stick around for a couple of minutes. You could help us with the show titles. Yeah, take off whenever you need to, but you're welcome to hang out as long as you want. I really want to get a six plus, but I wouldn't kid diapers and baby food are expensive, man. Yeah, I hear you. How's the baby? Baby's awesome. He is, he is like growing so fast. It's, you know, you think about, well, my, my phone is basically a computer. My kid went from being like a worm that ate, slept and pooped and kind of wiggled a little bit. And now he's like sitting up and smiling and laughing and can recognize me. And like, it's, the evolution is quite quick. Amazing. That is amazing. Oh boy. What do we got for titles? Here we go. So the top vote getters are two, the beats doesn't go on. I would go for the slightly grammatically incorrect. The beats don't go on just for the sound of it. You've got duck duck gone. I like the sort of odd poetic quality of it has its mother's visibility. We've got, there was one I really loved. Where is it? Well, we've got get the duck out of here, of course. And the other one was where to go. Oh, China hates peaking duck as in P E. Which is on the border, but I love it. I love a good pun. And then I guess there was some, let's see, Square is the new Blackberry, as in Square is the new Black, as in Square, because it's the Square Blackberry. Oh, Square, I get it, because of the square shape. I was thinking of the Square Company. I'm like, we didn't mention any stories about Square today. And then there's the always classic hate us on Yelp, which actually is pretty great. And by the way, that is possibly my favorite story I've ever seen on ours, Technica, like that guy just nailed it. It's so great. Yeah, I mean that, that e-mail is so good. The e-mail back is amazing. Yeah. You violated our fact. So there, Yelp. Oh man. So anyway, those are the options. We'll give it a moment and then, and then select. Tom, I should ask you this before the show, but where's the chat? What chat do you guys use? Oh, IRC, Diamond Club or? Yeah, we use the Diamond Club chat, the same one. Oh, I should have logged on. Dang it. Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot to tell you about it. I should have mentioned that. It's probably better that I wouldn't stare at the chat at the whole time. Well, you can get in there now if you want. What do you think? What's the plan? I don't, um, you know, I like the beats doesn't go on, maybe laugh. And I even like it as phrased there. Yeah, I like that too. I think that is the winner. Although I will say a prayer for it has its mother's reversibility because. Well, thank you. I wrote that. I know that's why you're not picking it because you're being. I'm happy that you like it. Honest about your writing, but you shouldn't be because that was good. It's also a little long for a title, but. Yeah. That is mother's reversibility. It's about like the most benign story in the bunch too. Yeah. The thing is like, I know that there are at least a dozen people in the audience that are like, Oh, that's so cool. USB with displayed for it. That's amazing. That's going to solve so many problems for me. That's why I like doing those stories. It's like that's Thunderbolt under a different name. Essentially, well, and that's why they're excited. They're like, I don't have to pay for Thunderbolt. I can just go with USB 3.0 C or USB 3C or whatever. Are we all watching Gotham tonight? Are we excited for that? Are we? It's set to record on my DVR. The fact that the main villain they're pushing is not from the DC universe at all is kind of like worrisome to me. Yeah. It's the smallville problem. Right? And it's actually the Arrow problem as well, where they're like, yes, you can live in this universe, but only in this part. So Arrow has done a really good job, whereas smallville had moments of brilliance. But I felt like they suffered from that restriction. Well, yeah. They suffered 10 seasons long right into a Brinks truck. Yeah. And they also like, come on, season seven, you were done. Why? I don't know why they kept going. I know. We watched it faithfully if it wasn't painfully, because it had such an impact in the beginning. Yeah. Those first four seasons were great. But the problem is, if you say you can't live in the entire universe, but Superman is your main character, but he can never be Superman, like you're kind of set up for not being able to end that series well. Yeah. Whereas, I think they ended it as well as they could have. Yeah, maybe. Given certain circumstances. I certainly couldn't have ended it better. I'm not going to claim I could have. Yeah. But it was a close series close to my heart. Because that was like, that also represents one of the last times we ever went to the video store and ran right out and got the next season. Yeah. We did the same thing. Actually, it had a real impact. And I hope the best for Gotham, but I do wonder. I ended up giving our DVD sets to a neighbor in Oakland, whose kid, he bought one of them at a garage sale we were having. And then he knew we had more than just the first season. So he came back. He's like, do you have the other seasons? Because my kid's really into this. I'm like, here, just take them. Give them back if you want. If you don't, no big deal. But yeah, knock yourselves out. Enjoy. Because by that point, we're like DVDs. We don't use DVDs anymore. I still use very cool round items that I put into my PlayStation. So that still lives. Yeah, I have to do that. I'm still a disc person. I still buy Blu-rays. I'm a sucker. I don't know. Do you really? You buy Blu-rays, huh? Yeah, I'm an audio guy. Yeah. Can't really get uncompressed audio. Sure. No, that makes sense. Yeah. Granted, I don't buy that many these days. It's pretty, I pretty much pick and choose. It's like a vent beast. Well, I've got a handful. I have like the final season of Lost on Blu-ray, because that's what it first, you know, they were putting stuff out. And I have the last couple of seasons of Doctor Who, and I have Star Trek by JJ Abrams, Star Trek. I think those are all the Blu-rays I have, though, right there. I have a couple Marvel movies on Blu-ray, because they're just fun to look at. And wow, every noise is happening in my neighborhood right now, like all of them. The blower, the garbage, like airplanes. It's amazing. Do you hear it, Rob? Because I don't, I'm gone. Yeah, I hear it. I hear there's something like a Power Saw or Airplane. Yeah, Power Saw. Something like that. Yeah. It's the joy of the IFB. I don't hear any of it. Yeah. Well, that's good. Let's see. What else? What else is it going on? Agents of Shields back? Yes, finally. Please still be good. With Xena? Is it good? I watched like the first three episodes, and I was not impressed. Tom and Jenny would like to tell you something. Yes, Jenny, you take this one. Okay. So it is, it was an entire show waiting for the release of Captain America. Okay. And without giving anything away, the moment, like the lead up to the time period in which Captain America was about to be released, it suddenly found purpose and meaning and was everything you could have hoped it would be from a shield-centric thing. But boy did we all have to suffer for a couple episodes because Captain America wasn't coming out till April. And they really should have just started the show in January. So please, if you have spare time, go watch it, suffer through, you can even fast forward parts, you find silly, which we did. And then you'll get to these episodes and all of a sudden you'll be like, whoa, hey, that got better. So there you go. I think it was I09 that did a really good, like here are the episodes before the Captain America crossover. You need to watch to understand what's going on. And then, and it was only like five or six episodes. Yeah. So it's worth it. Will it remain worth it while they wait for next Avengers? I don't know. But at least they have richness of storytelling that you were hoping for all along. And the later season, later in the season they have the crossovers that you were hoping for, you know, like the guest appearances. But they're always like very teasy. So it's like, not quite the character you super want to see, but that was nice. What are you talking about? The finale with the... No, I know, yeah. The finale with the person with the thing. And Agent What's Her Face showed up. And I did enjoy the Thor crossover, although I could have picked other... I enjoyed it anyway. Yeah, you don't actually see Thor, Captain America. Yeah. Yeah, I'm waiting for that moment. I'm interested, though, because I mean, without getting into spoiler territory, the events of the movie kind of shift things a bit. Right. Yeah. That's what makes the show finally work. They're dealing with those shifts. All right. And you're like, oh, now it's interesting. It gets very shifty. Yeah. So yeah, it's quite good. And I'm happy about that. And I'm just happy any TV is on at all again, even if it's going to take a while to roll the really good stuff out. Because Outlander is ending. I'm in trouble. I've been watching Fargo. I've been catching up on that. I liked the leftovers in the end, which I know you disagree with me on. I disagree. What else have I been watching? It's been kind of nice to be able to just sample. We binged on Once Upon a Time last night. Yeah. That has its moments. It suffers from network TV. Something is on my nose. It's on the nose. But I think those are not a result of the writers. That's a result of network notes. Like this is for a certain age of people. And you can be dark, but you have to explain everything as opposed to leave anything to change. Well, we were playing Star Force on our Nexus 7s while watching it. So it was kind of the perfect combination. Yeah. No, that is. You don't have to pay 100% attention to that one. That is fine. I think I have so many shows to catch up on. It's hard, though, because my wife is so not into television that isn't the Housewives, which makes me a little dead inside. It's funny, though, because she's super. I think it's the curse of being super intelligent, right? She is a doctorate. She's getting her second doctorate. So she's super intelligent all the time. So when she does it for entertainment, she really wants to turn her brain off. And then she gravitates towards those really crappy Bravo shows. I think that's fair. I think when you get more than one doctorate, you get to do whatever you want. I don't argue with it. I just let it happen. I'm like, I'm not into this. I want to watch The Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. I just have to get in my TV show watching when I can. Yeah, I imagine hour-long television takes a serious perspective shift when you have a little human. Yeah, although it's not too bad. He goes to bed at 7 o'clock, so it's really not that bad. Oh, just wait. Yeah, just wait. At the moment, I should say. Yeah. Although he did just start sleeping through the night again last night, which... Yay, good job, Karen. Good time. Good timing. He was sleeping through the night and then he turned like five and a half months and he was like, holy crap, I can roll around. Holy crap, I can sort of wiggle and crawl, not fully. And he was just waking up constantly because he was just amazed by his abilities. It's like, I have so much power. This is so much fun. Nice. So cool. I never get tired of babies. Babies are super cool. Let's see. All right, so we have a title. I can get rid of that. We have... Yeah, I'm out of the post. Boom, done. Wow, I am... Hey, Tom, I'm getting emails from you to the DTNS account so late. I just got one of the discussion emails like right now. Weird. Can you guys see that on my camera? That's my little man. Let's see. Hold on, let me see, hold on. Oh, wait, we have to shut up. You know what? We have to shut up. Hold on. Talk. This is my son, Robbie. He's adorable. He's sitting there. It's amazing. I couldn't help it. So cute. He is sitting upright. Little bit of help. He's not quite there yet. He's almost there though. He was propped. You can't tell. He looks like he's doing it himself. He's very pleased. All right, everybody. I'm going to take off. We are too. Thanks again, Rob. All right, thank you. All right, guys. Bye.