 So here we have some 3D printing going on, so hello, so who are you? My name is Antti Rintala, I come from Delector, you may know this logo behind me. So what kind of things are you showing here? These are our customers, our company CEO Antti will fill you in. So who are you? My name is Antti Bachman, I'm the CEO and founder of Delector LTD. What are you showing here at the fair, at the conference? We are showing who are our customers, like Elkoflex, Vesla Tech. Vesla Tech is a professional laser company. They can do a lot of different things for medical industry, maybe for electronic industry, all kind of other things. So what kind of things are you doing? We are actually helping universities and all kind of researchers to commercialise their ideas. They have a lot of ideas and they don't know what to do with those. So you make them commercial? Yeah. So what kind of ideas, like 3D printing stuff or what is it? 3D printing stuff, back in time there was a company, actually it was a research centre, making these printed sensors and they gave us the sensors, you know, prototypes and we made the demonstrators, we went to the customers, we made all the marketing materials and then it happened that one of the customers we found from them they sent to the RFQ so we really can boost the business and I think it's really good for universities. So you make ideas into real printed electronics? Printed electronics or mechanics, whatever, you know, there is a lot of research going on in the world but the only tiny part of it is commercial. So what is this? This one is actually... It was just printed by the machine, right? Yeah, and I'm about to speak about it within half an hour. It's a box, it's a simple 3D printed box. There is linear technology, mesh node inside and as you can see there is few holes. There is going to be the printed cover on the top and I have the reference box here. It's kind of a black box, normal black box you can buy and I cut the hole there and now I can install it with the tape here but as you can see there is quite a difference. It's the same feature, it's a box, it's a covering box and the size where you can find exactly the right size. How much time does it make the holes and so on. So our point is that it's really reasonable to do 3D printing even with these let's say mid-range printers. So you would take a 3D printer and you would print boxes for putting electronics in? Yeah, electronics in because normally companies buy these boxes and they machine them. CNC machine and that costs time and still you have the box features. The assembly time is long and you know it's really labor intensive but when you do 3D printing you can figure out every corner how to assemble it and how to put the connections and when you're using this kind of a twin print head printer you can actually do different colours. You have your transparent areas and so on. Like here we have a PLA with carbon fibre reinforcement so that we can really make hard pulse. But this is not your printer right? No, no, it's a mini factory. It's actually first time ever in Germany this printer. I think there is only few of them sold to UK so it's a Finnish made company, it's a small company and we are developing new printers with them hopefully soon. But this one is one of the best in the market because it's really solid, it's made out of real stuff and it's accurate also. So it's not printed? I'm joking. It's made out of sheet metal, it's really good quality. So how come you are able to get all these ideas into real? What's your speciality, your background? My background is industrial design, I'm a master of art and also I've been studying electrical engineering but not finished and my colleague here, our CTO, he's... My background, I'm a master in economics and then I'll be working on IT field for 20 plus years in all possible positions in IT corporation on software side, on networking side and now I'm moving towards electronics a bit more. So where are you based? We are based in Finland, Vasa. It's on the west coast of Finland, almost the center, something like 400 kilometers north from Helsinki, which is Finland's capital. We have, at moment we have three offices, main office in Vasa, then we have side technology office in Muurame, it's in the middle of central Finland and then one office also in Järvenpär, which is 80 kilometers from Helsinki, south of Finland. So what do you think about this show here? It has exceeded all the expectations, I mean this has been really great show, I'm stunned. There is not many minutes during the days that we've been able to breathe, it has been all the time talking and doing things, it has been really good. This interview has been the longest time when we have been quiet during these two days. Yeah, it was the only time I was able to interview you. Yes. Alright, so what do you think this kind of business is going to go? How big is it going to be? Big. All the wearable electronics, flexible electronics like the Elka flex here is doing, it's going to be massive because there is also the environmental aspects because of the thin materials and the light weight and stuff like that, it's going to be... Yeah, plastic will be more recycled, we use this economical environmental plastic PLA which will dissolve in the nature, it does not leave anything. Yeah, as we know there is one company there recycling the plastic. Having been around, is it interesting to see all the other guys? I have been able to see behind the corner because we have had no time to leave this place. I have seen two booths in this exhibition other than ours own. It was good? Yes, I spent 45 seconds in the other one and two minutes in the other one, so it's been really busy. They should make the conference like a week long, no? Yes. But we need more work. We need to go back and work also. We would need more people here in the booth. Yeah, definitely. Already now there should be more people because now we have been talking all the time here and we haven't been able to go enough around in this exhibition. And I'm about to speak in 15 minutes so... Okay, let's go. I have to wait this cool down so I can pick it up so I have something to show when I'm speaking and actually I have to collect the bottle and... Yeah, you have the... Actually I have a lot of stuff to take so...