 Now you were you were very I mean brutally honest Joe about your your battle with with a liquor and and then you actually point to The incident that happened with Susie Colbert on tv as a turning point in your life. Tell us about that Well, I uh Hey, hey, it's it's still tough to talk about to a degree, but uh without sounding like uh Uh An ignorant young man, uh, I I didn't realize what I was falling into when it came to drinking Uh, I really It became a habit It became a routine. It was uh something that was uh very easy to do and uh a part of a daily uh routine and uh whenever I I I didn't recognize at first my my former wife recognized that I had a problem and uh Demanded so to speak or asked me to get help and I said, oh man, you kidding? I don't need help. I mean if I want to quit I quit And so uh, I did I did and I quit for 13 years 13 years and change actually and And I was called what you what what they call in uh A. A. Where you can get a good education and continue to live that way Uh A dry drunk I didn't I didn't touch your drop And then I found an excuse to go back to drinking And when I did find that excuse and that's how it was put to me how it was taught to me Uh, and I used it as an excuse Uh, I did drink for another uh couple of years and that's whenever The incident uh happened with uh susie and uh When I heard about it because I didn't even know Uh, what I had said what I had done that night. Uh, I heard about it the next morning and Uh, it was uh It was awful What do you think uh, what would happen to you joe if that incident hadn't taken place? Well, I I really believe I wouldn't be here today. I wouldn't be a healthy Uh, Joan Amos today. I wouldn't be lucky today with my family living every day and sharing every day with the grandchildren and Uh, living with my friends sharing the old times like we are right now talking to you guys I I really believe I would have been somewhere else on a different level not not Not how we're living here. I don't think I would have survived So you were so mortified that what happened on tv is that the shame drove you to never drink again, right? You know mortified, uh, I I I was oh man um I let everybody down now myself my my my family my friends You know, I was crushed Susie. I embarrassed her I know what it's like to be a professional and doing something even back then but to Put her through that to that degree Well, maybe she handled it beautifully and and what I talked with her that Next morning. Uh, she was kind enough for an understanding enough to make me feel like Uh, she's gonna be all right for me to suck it up and go on and and So I reached out and I got help. I went down education and uh, uh, you know, it was uh It was awful. It was worse than filling five interceptions in a game But you know in a sense, uh You think about embarrassing or walking in a locker room knowing that you're the one that lost the game You literally caused the loss for your teammates and saying that that feels awful man. It doesn't go away but to think about your family and your friends and uh Uh, just the the the people that you've been around and and how you How I behaved, uh, it was it was near crushing it was a total, uh Let me get let me get somewhere and hide kind of thing, but uh, I knew that wasn't the way to go and So I needed to get help and I went and got education and Uh to this day, uh Uh, I am uh sober clean happy healthy and all the things man that I'm sharing today with my family and Grandchildren and friends. I'm honest to god fellas. I know I don't believe I'd be here. I wouldn't be alive today