 See it was wonderful. That was a lot of fun. Yeah very cool. Kind of kind of wild to get into the to the head of some of these pilots and what they've gone through, what they've seen and what they have to train for to be here and you know the precision and all the work that goes into just a little 15 to 18 minute show you know. So it's pretty amazing to see Dan. Yeah. So glad you could be here. Warriors over the Wasatch. Air and Spatial live from Hill Air Force based Dan Hawkins from the AETC public affairs team alongside. Matt from KSL5, the morning weather guy. Yeah I am. How's the weather progressing? Oh very nice. Right on right on par with what we were expecting for this hour. You know very smooth air for these guys to be flying. You know you think about it you experience turbulence in just a commercial airline and you're not doing any tricks. Yeah here you see turbulence that could throw off your move. You're flying 300 feet above the ground so it's nice to have the smooth air out here and not to mention great weather for all the spectators that have come out to Hill Air Force base. So it's really really cool and we'd be remiss if we didn't thank the second audio visual squad and all these fantastic pictures brought to you by this squadron based out of Hill Air Force base. So big thanks to our entire crew out there making it happen and Matt honestly are these not incredible shots. Oh just it's I mean look how low he is to the ground and later on in the show you'll probably see more jets and we were just talking to Kristen Beowulf. 300 feet above the ground going 100 who knows how many hundreds of miles an hour upside down cockpit facing the ground there and it's just amazing to see these guys do these maneuvers and like she was saying some of these aircraft are actually they actually go to war. It's not just for shows some of these will be going out to the field to work you know I don't know if they're going to go straight to war but they're actually used in real time situations you know I don't know the exact name of the the aircraft we're watching right now but you know these guys put a lot of time into making this show happen a lot of years of experience and expertise and really just honing in on on on on these crazy moves that they're doing. All right Matt we're gonna go ahead and send it out to the air boss for a little bit and catch some of the airshow narration take a listen. Record they got there first when they got into Canada they were based at CFB Trenton Canadian Forces Base Trenton so low and to your right the legendary aircraft of reconnaissance and training and fighter and racing and record keeping and record breaking is the de Havilland Vampire. Jets after the World War II well it would go into a jet dogfight arena in the Korean War it would be mostly our F-86 Sabre swept wing aircraft against the MiG aircraft another swept wing aircraft with captured German aeronautical data that showed us that a swept wing aircraft was superior to offset buffet boundary. Lockheed did not have an entry that was a swept wing aircraft North America did because of the information gleaned from the Germans after the war so did the Russians with the MiG-15 swept wing aircraft and it was to be a swept wing dogfight pure jet with the exception of one Navy pilot in a piston powered airplane that gained a status in the Korean War great profile Jerry Jet Connolly and the legendary de Havilland Vampire maximum speed on the aircraft 548 miles an hour that's the red line you saw the Jerry's got a couple of tanks on the aircraft range of over 1,000 miles with aux tanks and with proper oxygen able to cruise up in the 40,000 foot range by the way had day and night capability as well another another tip of the hat to the British in their design making it versatile in many different regimes and then adding day and night capability for the perfect sky for air show smoke twin boom de Havilland Vampire get ready with your cameras and your phone cameras because coming in over our right shoulder in an arcing pass you'll be able to flip shots with a plan view coming in from your right putting it up on the left wing there is a photo opportunity against the mountains we're going to land Jerry Connolly there'll be a few minutes if you have to go and you know what I mean if you have to go visit the facilities while we recover Jerry Connolly there'll be a little bit of time before our next routine so if you've been waiting to go because you didn't want to miss any of the flying action you can head off now do that or enjoy a drink or a food item or more activity with suntan lotion sunblocker lip protection and hydrated stay hydrated so as Jerry Connolly gets ready to land with the vampire we'll get ready for our next act I want to remind you too that you can dream big stop by dream big entertainment out there and jump in the cockpit of the f18 make sure you tell Jake happy birthday and get your picture taken for those christmas cards and all those other great moments remember your day here at warriors over the wasps all right now shortly we're going to change the pace again to the world of unlimited model planes and a most dynamic guy his name is bob freeman we call him buzzkill bob is his new name and I'll tell you why it deals with a turkey vulture in the air to air combat and I'll tell you the result bob started flying back in 1972 in junior high school had a very high passion for competition aerobatics and over the years over four decades he has brought home the gold in both national and international competition representing the united states of america a degree in mechanical engineering with honors retired position as a chief technologist at sea gate corporation an inventor with 14 patents and life goes good for a while then life gets a little a little turn bob had a bout with leukemia some years ago and he would like to thank the scientists the researchers the doctors the nurses and the caregivers and his family for providing his survival to get back in the cockpit now having after four decades retired from competition he is now devoted to air show flying I gotta tell you about buzzkill bob that's a relatively new name he was out flying a turkey vulture that weighed five pounds and bob got into a dog fight at 145 miles per hour the turkey vulture took a big chunk out of bob's vertical stabilizer bob got the airplane safely on the ground and was okay not so for the turkey vulture don't mess with bob they repaired the aircraft it's back in use again and uh four more turkey vultures and he and bob freeman can go to ace status all right bob freeman now turn around and look up start the music and we get ready for a sky dance bob has a wild entry it's a series of snap rolls okay there's bob over the tower you see he's got the altitude he wants now you're not going to believe this next snapping disorientation as he does the curly cues on the descending line to add a blistering pace this partly comes from his world of competition this partly comes from his showmanship imagine yourself twisting and turning in this airplane blue green blue green blue green ground sky ground sky ground sky now a hammerhead turnaround as he pulls to the right a grueling amount of gravity forces him into his seat pulling to the vertical rolling the aircraft he'll do what we call a vertical reverse out of that he'll do a knife edge spin knife edges when you fly on the fuselage spinning is when you're spinning around on the descent and both are a combination of the same thing knife edge spin he'll stop it right about there then we'll look for that maneuver we explained to the yearly known as the lump survive the equivalent of drinking too much plum brandy you get tipsy and out of control and this is what happens if you try to walk or fly now off on your right the sky dance will include again the vertical reverse known as the hammerhead with a little rudder dance on the way up little rudder left little rudder right little rudder left little rudder right let's dance it on up bleed off all the speed full left rudder a little right aileron now coming back in bob premium many years of competition and the medals to prove it we'll head and air show center for the short roll pull to the vertical slice the horizon 90 degrees start to roll the airplane the speed will start to dissipate gravity will start to take over with the power from the engine and the propeller spinning backwards with the torque of the engine now the skydance maneuver one after the other stay confirmed the audience at all times pulling to the vertical rolling the aircraft on the way up stopping it stick gently back into a slap down on the 45 degree line that's what we call the short stook with a series of rolls the variation of the vertical reverse of the hammerhead turn is the pinwheel shoulder roll up he goes once again forced down into a seat into the shoulder roll gyroscopic maneuvers recovering right slide up straight up here pin turn around and we'll watch for the spin maneuver on the descent there's the spin as promised now rolling the aircraft in a knife edge flight gaining altitude downline roll this i'd like to talk to you about bob sponsor we'd like to thank our friends at ed kenley ford we'd like to recognize that kenley ford and specifically julie kenley for her continued support of the warriors over the walls that chair show as a patron sponsor of the top of military affairs committee ed kenley ford has been serving military families since 1981 the values of service courage discipline and integrity the same ones that inspire our team to treat each customer that visits our dealership in latin just like family and ed kenley ford we speak only one language cars of course we're fluent in many dialects including parts service and finance if you're interested in learning the lingo yourself stop by and see us at our latin utah showroom today whether you hail from latin clearfield clinton syracuse or caseville we'll be happy to bring you up to speed if you feel like speed come in and drive the all-electric Mustang mach e feels like you're serious seriously pulling some cheese let's not forget the new tough bronco bronco sport maverick and lightning models add to that our lifetime warranty on all vehicles the fact that we never charge over ms rp and you got a top gun solution all right now we'll watch for bob once again to come from off of his perch he gained a little bit of altitude on that brake to cool down his engine instruments and oil rolling the aircraft and again the blistering rate of roll now watch for him to do a spin the hard way spinning the aircraft on the way up powered away ratio of the engine the construction of the airplane but the talent of bob freeman is what allows you to do this an upward spin now combining several maneuvers into one bob freeman would be coming back in setting up the numbers into one it will be a loop on the top of the loop upside down he will snap roll the aircraft we call this the avalanche around once around twice around three times recovering inverted bob's going to do half of the loop no get it with some altitude now watch you'll kick the rudder left rudder right and flip the airplane then over in you'll have room to do it again watch the rudder left right and then a flip and over they call that the dinks maneuver now to stay on stage off on your right it is the hairpin turnaround bringing him from right to left now as he comes back in he's going to do what he calls the right foot slide with a negative g or outside snap roll positive g's force you down into your seat negative g's try to force you out of your seat held in only by a double set of safety straps into the maneuver the slide then the outside snap still gaining altitude floating across the top bob freeman coming back in from your left will execute the eight point hesitation roll in level flight stopping the airplane every 45 degrees of rotation starting with one two three four five six seven eight spiraling tower off on your right folks this is grueling work this is punishment there's pain in this flight oh that pilot's sitting down all that pilots got no worry no sir not not true at all it hurts it takes conditioning both physically and mentally now using a left rudder a little bit of slide maneuver and from there a very scientific maneuver known as the flop recovering and flying inverted now rolling to the right side of position a quick turnaround will bring bob freeman back in for the centrifuge turn around maneuver to stay on the stage after you've been a maneuver that's why they put apes of a loop you know that by now all right this is a tribute to his good buddy bill stein will be this is called a steinway a maneuver invented by bill stein and copied with great admiration by bob freeman by the way this is steinway about 625 pounds okay yeah that goes back to 1960s all right isaac camera's out on the center stage remember those farmers who were out planting their crop even in the darkness this morning they're ready to harvest that crop they're going to do it with a signal from bob freeman bob freeman high until the right the pyro will come at ground level if you want to get them both in the shot in your cameras get a little bit of the earth get a little bit of the earth there you see inside the office so again that shot with the pyro and bob get a little bit of the ground in the bottom of whatever device you're using to take the picture and have it mostly sky then you will get the pyro from the ground up you'll get the airplane you'll get the mountains you'll get all the color you'll get the action so we're going to pyro fire walkers pyro international sarge mires and his group of veterans 150 years of professional pyro experience they already started out the show once augmenting the us army golden nights he sent into the ground okay from your right eyes and cameras let's have some fun let's somebody give me a lighter got a lighter with pyro techniques okay that part of the that pyro has been harvested that was a successful crop but there's other crops that are growing out there we're going to be using them throughout the course of the day as well all right getting aircraft on the ground now we're going to go into some movie action some top gun action as we get ready to land bob remind reminding you that uh this is the fourth weekend of the tom cruise david ellison movie known as top gun maverick breaking all box office records and featuring the fa 18 and uh american film it's a film about american values that's why it's been doing so well that's why it's going to exceed a million billion dollars in box office receipts worldwide 410 412 million dollars of a after last weekend this weekend to be another big motion picture of watching show as word gets around that this is the picture to watch featuring an fa 18 we have one here we have a cockpit dewy larson scottis fa 18 cockpit on a trailer it's a movie plane it's a blue angels airplane you can be in the cockpit having your picture taken taken home it's a memento you'll get it right there it is absolutely great we are ready for fa 18 top gun action as the super hornet gets ready to fly all right folks fasten your safety belts on behalf of united states navy naval air station or more commander strike fighter wing pacific and the commanding officer of strike fighter squadron 122 we are proud to present the west coast fa 18 super hornet flight demonstration the aircraft performing for you today is the f model which incorporates a two-place cockpit to accomplish the assigned mission in today's demonstration pilots lieutenant thomas surely calisthen call us a call sign owners from austin texas the weapon systems officer lieutenant jordan swato call sign peach from ocean city california they'll demonstrate the incredible flight characteristics of the super hornet all right lieutenant surely has extensive combat experience in the fa 18 has flown numerous sort keys in support of operation inherent result and western stability and other operations around the globe during this flight they will experience e-force extremes from negative three times the normal force of gravity as they maneuver the aircraft to the edge of its operating envelope today's show will be performed at speeds as fast as 700 miles per hour and slow as 100 miles per hour many of them are over as you will see here today demonstrate the aircraft's capabilities in the tactical arena and are employed during combat and training hey welcome back into the warriors over the wasatch air and space show here at hill air force base dan hawkins matt johnson hey it has been a lot of fun today we've had a lot of airplanes the f-22 raptor i think that's your personal favorite just admit it well i have a couple friends that are training to be pilots and they keep saying you know it's rare to see an f-22 and i was like well it's in the script like it's going to be here and sure enough there they were so allegedly it's it's exclusive to have the f-22s because there's so few is what i'm hearing so kind of kind of exciting stuff as we head throughout the day all right so we're going to actually switch gears a little bit i actually i would probably say a lot but uh kernel jason bartella may he's the director of the ground base strategic deterrent systems director it here at hill air force base uh the air force is replacing the minute man uh three intercontinental ballistic missile or icbm with the gbsd which is now going to be called the sentinels but uh sir how are you sound of freedom the sound of freedom how are you great thank you all right sorry i got i got so rocked by the big jet coming by and just real quick do we know what kind of jet that was that was an f-18 so if you saw the recent top gun maverick that's the exact same aircraft that is flying in that movie so it is not tom cruise mind you it is not top real time real time officer in there and they did not hijack that plane from an enemy airfield or anything like that right right no foreign no foreign aircraft from russia or anything like that uh now can you tell can you tell us a little bit about the hot 419th fighter wing uh what does it do in the big picture of the air force well and what is a wing oh well an aircraft wing is really uh the aggregation of our fighting force and so uh we have uh two fighter wings here at hill air force base uh but but people most people don't realize that there's a lot of other activities going on here at hill air force base in fact uh hill air force base is the the nucleus of our our nation's uh development of the replacement of the minute man three uh so the sentinel weapon system uh that we just described is uh what i'm responsible for in my organization is essentially a wing that's devoted to replacing uh our land-based leg of the triad so that that's that's really interesting right so like ties to us strategic command but can you maybe explain like the triad for those who may not understand uh national defense i mean this isn't an airplane but it you obviously just is important well so um you know experts describe you know the backs the backdrop of our nation's security uh and our plans is our nation's nuclear deterrent and our nuclear deterrent has three legs and it's uh commonly referred to as the nuclear triad and so we have submarines that run by the navy we have uh aircraft uh that uh fly and our nuclear capable and then we have intercontinental ballistic missiles and each one of those uh represent the triad and so the submarines we describe as the survivable leg of the triad the aircraft we described as the flexible leg of the triad and the icbm's uh are the responsive leg of the triad so uh we have three legs i mean you just gotta take a minute and soak in the f18 oh man it's uh you can feel it as much as you can hear it it's pretty amazing stuff yes yeah so i was uh i think the whole the whole crowd is looking forward to a few of the demos today uh we have the f18 demo flight which is happening right now and so it's going to be uh thunderous uh but later today we'll have the f35 demo uh so it could not be more exciting uh here at the air show yeah and so the 419 the 419th is part of the total force concept what exactly does that mean oh well so so i think the 419th commander uh it would answer that probably better than me so uh so i uh uh he was my next door neighbor for a couple years um uh he he he knows about as much about nuclear missiles as i know about the 419th so uh what we'll do is uh let him answer that here at a couple minutes when he's on i think in air show parlance what we got there was just a high speed pass right there yeah so so what is it that your unit does um on a daily basis when it comes to the transition of you know uh from the minute man to the sentinel why is it so important well yeah so it's really important um you know some experts call the land base leg of the triad the backbone of the triad and what we have are three missile wings um that uh live in the upper uh mountain west and each one of those missile wings have 400 intercontinental ballistic missiles on alert and these missiles are on alert 24 day 24 hours a day seven days a week 365 days a year and i think what most people don't realize is that these missile wings are the size of mid of mid-atlantic states so if you think about connecticut if you think about uh massachusetts if you think about mariland each one of those states is about the same size of one of our missile wings and so these missile wings are really important because the size and the scale of those missile wings with our icbms makes threatening our nuclear deterrent very challenging for the adversary and it makes the land base leg of the of the deterrent just so important and that's why what we're doing here at hill air force bases is so important and if you don't mind i'll talk a little bit about what we're doing at hill yeah and uh you know why it's so important so as i mentioned hill is is the is the nucleus um of the development of the land base leg of the triad so for the last oh almost 45 years the men and women of hill air force base have been sustaining those missiles up in those missile wings and so you know if you have ever been at hill air force base you see what a large base it is it's the largest employer in the state and many of the men and women that work out at hill not only work on the planes but they're also working on taking care of the systems that are out in the field the minivan three the minivan three was only designed to last for 10 years and we have been flying the system for 50 years and so we describe the sentinel system as a once in every other generation uh development program so it happens not once in a generation but once in every other generation and we take great pride in that here at hill air force base so we lead a organization of 1200 people most of them are here at hill but we have uh colleagues that live in different parts of the nation so it's a nationwide effort and the and the nucleus of it is here at hill air force base wow that that's really impressive and so so as we look at the the sentinel that's coming online like what does that timeline look like obviously yeah a major part of your mission right now but i mean that's that's a huge project well so um i'm really proud to say that um for the folks here in utah and and and those listening online maybe not in utah the sentinel project has been already going on for eight years and um we have actually uh you know great pride we've we've hit all of our major milestones uh for eight years um and and it's such a high priority from from leadership in washington from people in the pentagon and so we've got great support uh in congress and great support in the pentagon and right now we're in the most interesting and challenging phase of the project so we're two years into what we call the engineering manufacturing and development phase which is essentially we're now designing and building the system and um we're only about two years away from flying the first new sentinel missile from vandenberg in california and once that happens uh we will produce the the system at scale and we will start deploying it and i'll give you a staggering statistic we're going to replace a one minute man three missile a week for nine years starting at the end of the decade and so this is a massive mega project it couldn't be more exciting and i think it really captures uh what we as americans can do when we put our mind to something it's uh it's a quite an amazing effort and i think this is a kind of a good segue to you know defense of this great nation takes many forms i mean at hill obviously the local community sees the f-35 flying through the air and and they think air force but uh you know obviously nuclear deterrence is is a huge part as you talked about that triad um but you work at here at hill directly with uh some major elements of the air force uh and the joint force uh across the dod with air force global strike command that's correct as well as us strategic command can you kind of talk about some of those synergistic relationships absolutely and how important you know how you're kind of honestly seems like a linchpin to all a lot of things well so i think it you know it really starts at the top i think that uh you know it's been several years since the end of the cold war but i think that world events that we're seeing happening even today uh really you know remind us how important the defense of our nation is and really how important the nuclear triad is i think that for the people of utah you know in the last three years alone we've seen several thousand people move from all over the country uh to to to to northern utah to actually support this project um the north of grumman corporation um has built a campus not too far from the museum just a little bit north of this year and that campus alone has five thousand uh engineers program managers finance individuals and some exciting opportunities and so one of the things i would say is one is that for the people of utah you know some of your new neighbors might be working on this uh great project it truly is historic i would also say that for those that are interested in an adventure you know uh by all means look at the opportunities in the air force and at north of grumman to be a part of something really special because we really need uh just the smartest and the hardest working people to help bring this incredible project across the finish line because it will last for the next 50 plus years and uh and it's really something special that we have here in utah the theme of this air show innovate accelerate drive of course the air force at 75 but can you maybe talk a little bit about how you guys are innovating and accelerating chains that general brown talks about absolutely in fact um we've been really fortunate to have senior leaders visit from the top of of both congress and the pentagon we were really grateful to have uh the chief come and visit so chief brown was here just a little over a year ago and the secretary and the vice chief came about a couple weeks later and one of the things that's really a little known fact about the ICBM is that the the whole discipline of systems engineering was born in the development of the ICBM the first time we built the system and what you're seeing here inside of sentinel is that uh we're re birthing digital engineering inside of the system and so if you take a a position or come and work with us you're on the cutting edge of digital engineering cyber security software development modular system design and it's just super thrilling so you know not only are we in charge of a mega project but senior leaders in the air force I think have recognized that what's happening inside of the sentinel program is is birthing the innovations that will really take us through the next several decades to defend our country so very exciting well certainly exciting times for the sentinel program and thank you to the men and women of your organization who who uh uh taken us to the next level uh for defense so thank you for stopping by I hope you enjoy the rest of this air show thank you hey you can't get tired of views like that Colonel Jason Bartel away from the sentinel program so glad that he could join us and Matt another great picture of that f18 uh just a beautiful sky and we still have a lot more to come to here this afternoon yeah it's uh and it's nice to have the uh the blue skies out there so that when there are is it called a streamer or a smoke trail is it a smoke trail vapor trail vapor trail there you go um nice to have that backdrop with the blue skies because if it was cloudy as we mentioned before you might not be able to see that so it kind of adds to the show um and and and now it sounds like we're gonna get into talking to Staff Sergeant Alex Zuniga I don't think he's here he's not here okay not here yet but I thought this would maybe be a good time to show the crowd there's still room for you despite what you might think look at that crowd here today uh at hill air force base and there are some things Matt that that they do recommend that maybe you should or should not uh bring to the air show uh you obviously don't want to bring things like uh you know weapons stuff like that nothing sharp and and you also want to be mindful that I was telling this to some of my friends that came is that you've got to have a sealed bottle you can't bring your own little water bottle but it's got to be sealed as you come in we've got bathroom seal we've got trash can seal there's tons of vendors so if you come out you can gosh there's plenty of food and and honestly it's so fun to rub shoulders with people that are so passionate about the air force about the army about our country you know I think this is a it's almost like a second fourth of july I'm almost feeling like you know it's a very like you keep saying when we hear those loud uh jets come by it's the sound of freedom and and it really is you know we've got we are rubbing shoulders with people who there's a lot of veterans in the crowd yes it's not just you know we're all public civilians but I mean there are people who have served this country uh some of my friends that came already said that they've spoken with a couple and some of the cool stories that they have and I it's really inspiring yeah you know these people that put their lives on the line that that spin you spent 20 years yeah you know and it's um it's it's something to behold it's something to it's really cool to to be next to and to converse with these people so yeah get the some shots of some more performers going up you saw earlier shot of brad worsten in the extra 330 lx high performance step plane it's a two-seat tandem model plane uh it's going to be pretty impressive stuff uh when he goes up there as you see uh just the crowd the expansive crowd that's coming up uh there's still so much more on the schedule and we are going to take it out now to the air boss to set up time for the p-51 and the a-10 let's take it out there right now showcases the size and structural differences between the legacy and current platform used in naval aviation observe how the shape of and the general composition of the aircraft has been transformed to adapt to the evolving nature of warfare the formation will now be repositioning for the head-on pass that will give you an outstanding view of the business and of the pre-eminent fighters of their respective generations get ready with your eyes at cameras ladies and gentlemen the head-on pass he's from logan hey back the air boss taking us through some of the great acts here and we've got a really cool act coming up here the extra 330 lx it's a high performance stunt plane and and flown by a logan native brad worsten yeah it comes out of cash valley and it's it's fun to come to this and sometimes you feel um you know you see these guys up in the air but it's just different to know that you and there's people watching from out of state you know but it's cool for the locals if you're watching on the ksl app or if you're here listening to us and the stands it's really cool to have a local guy i mean just anywhere you're at any state you have a a local come out and do these tricks you feel connected you know you feel that pride that local pride and not to mention you know our our air force and us army that are that are out here from all over the country we welcome them as well it's it's it's really uh fun to have a local guy go up in the air all right let's learn a little bit more about brad worsten i love speed on ground you're limited to dirt and water the sky is it's endless i just love the feeling of being free doing aerobatic displays i mean it's just it's awesome it's a great feeling so tell me about the plane we're about ready to go up here they call it an unlimited aerobatic airplane it weighs 1340 pounds got 365 horsepower got a 540 cubic inch motor in it it is a real monster let's get ready to rock and roll are you ready let's do it ready to barf bag i don't know do you now we've got to get you suited up with the parachute okay we really wear parachutes yeah if i mess with me okay i'm gonna come back around okay where do i pull that handle don't pull it now okay i got you are y'all psyched out yeah no i'm good let's go do it man all right we're ready yep break up some food baby yeah words which is rare because i'm never at a loss for words i didn't know which way was up which way was down i mean at some point i thought i was in a video game i really did that was amazing yeah buddy thank you man that was good oh still a little wobbly that's our very own kasey scott from ksl 5 kind of fun to see him just a regular civilian up in one of those planes getting crazy surprisingly he didn't throw up so i don't know but we also we wanted to welcome in sergeant staff staff sergeant alex zuniga who is one of the key objectives of the of an air and space show recruiting air force recruiters walk people throughout the entire process and all the steps of joining the united states air force for every potential applicant recruiters discuss what the different career options are and talk about the growth opportunities and challenges that exist for those who are considering joining the military service here to discuss that topic with us is sergeant alex zuniga yeah thank you yeah yes so it seems like there's a lot of different ways that you can join the air force and you know there's certain requirements for each but maybe could you just talk a little bit about in general like what are the paths uh for air force service yeah so there's definitely a number of different ways to to go about joining the air force um what i tell everyone is you have to figure out kind of like where you're at and what you're looking to achieve um so for me i'm i'm an active duty enlisted recruiter so i don't handle officer sessions or rotc or even recruiting for the garter reserves um just a friendly reminder that we're live on the tarmac thanks guys um so we have dedicated recruiters for active duty sessions as well as garden reserves and then officer sessions as well um so if someone's looking to kind of go the college route uh there's there's always rotc so you're gonna have to figure out what school you want to apply for and and see if they have an rotc detachment there for for the united states air force um if not you know uh if you're looking to kind of stay local to your area and serve part time uh you can always pursue the garden reserve route um which basically you know they'll work one one week in a month um and then two weeks out of the year so you'll go to basic military training to your technical training uh just like you would for active duty except you know you're working a part time component and then for me dealing with active duty sessions um it is full time no kidding air force every single day um so i like i said it really just depends on on what a person is it's kind of looking to do yeah and so sergeant zuniga for many considering a military career what job uh would they might do obviously a major is that's a major consideration considering that but what kinds of jobs is the air force do the air force um recruit for and and can you can you necessarily pick your career is is that a thing or do you kind of compartmentalize people depending on how they test out yeah so so we get that question quite often so so again and and this is going to be dependent upon the the different components that that an individual would choose to pursue so for your garden reserve it's going to be a little bit different so um a guard base they might have a specific mission meaning that they might not see every single a fsc which is air force specialty code so they might not see every job that the air force offers if that mission is not available at that particular location for me active duty air force so we see every single job um that that list will fluctuate you know as people are hired for those positions um or you know whatever happens um you know that that list might change from day to day um so basically what will happen is an individual will take the asap so it's basically like the academic test that we that we uh provide applicants to to qualify them right to make sure that they're they're eligible for the air force and then based on that score they're going to get another score within four different attitude areas so we test generally for mechanics administration general and electronics so your score will be computed in some way and that'll kind of tell us you know you have the best ability to learn in in this particular field it doesn't mean that someone has to go into that field if they don't want to um but we'll kind of use that to kind of help them with their career counseling right so again if someone scores uh pretty high in like the mechanical attitude area um it would obviously I would hope that they would be interested in mechanics or mechanically inclined and I would kind of steer them that route so after they take that test and they go to meps to take a physical that'll tell us what they're eligible for they'll provide us a list of jobs that they're interested in and that they are guaranteed to get one of those jobs so you kind of they'll take the test you'll gently guide them one direction and say hey this is based up based upon what you know and how your brain works or how you test it this is this is something that you might uh excel in yes sir and then and then from there they can actually submit a list if I understood correctly and then they're guaranteed one of that list and then the others you kind of go from there and say hey you know we you kind of need to test a little differently maybe to to to get into that desired spot or yeah so so the way it works is what what I will tell everyone is is you have to be marketable to the Air Force right so the Air Force offers a world of opportunity um we have to get into the Air Force to be able to take advantage of those opportunities and again so I cannot guarantee a specific job uh that's why we have to make sure that you know uh people are going to want to be in the Air Force above all else um but yeah that that's the core drive is that yep yes sir gotcha yeah and so I and I imagine this is a pretty common question all the time we get it but another common question that I think you probably get is like you know what are my chances of getting in and how long would it take for me to go to basic military training yes sir that's that's a million dollar question everyone wants to know hey how quickly can I go and then my response to that is typically going to be like well um how ready are you right because if someone says hey I want to go to basic training tomorrow uh but if you know their list of jobs isn't uh very in demand if they're not jobs at the Air Force is like really hiring for really hard um then they might be sitting around waiting a little bit longer um I've had people who they they finish meps they take the process they qualify and uh they'll be out of the door in two weeks because they are ready to go they have their bags packed and they're they're willing to be in the Air Force um so it really just depends that that's a tough one to kind of answer it's like situational right like so if you want to leave fast you have your bags packed yes sir and take it when you're ready yeah and be flexible you know be be ready to take what the Air Force is uh offering at that time and so what about the case that somebody specialized in something like I went to school and and actually now that I think about it she was probably actually enlisted within the program she's local uh Chandler Alston she's a local meteorologist for Hill Air Force based so what if somebody comes to you and says that you know I'm I'm specialized in X Y or Z do you consider them do you do you uh what is that a possibility can someone say hey I think this could be really useful for the Air Force is there a spot for me or is it more hey no take the test we want to do it you know or how how does that work yeah so absolutely um so what we'll do for a situation like that is we have what we consider like a competency booking now I never like to make guarantees right because I'm sure we've all heard uh people's stories of hey my recruiter lied to me or this or that so we really we really try we try and stay away from that right um but what we'll do is we'll take someone's experience into account so if someone does have unique experience uh basically what I'll do is I'll take that whether it's formal education or certifications I'll take that experience and I'll submit that up to to our unit leadership and we'll try and find a spot for them in an area that they already have some sort of background in cool so true story my recruiter in a small high school uh recruited me and a couple of my friends we joined the Air Force fast forward 10 years later he was a staff sergeant at the time now he's a master sergeant and I'm a staff sergeant and we're in the same unit we actually work together so I actually worked with my recruiter for for a full year at Osan Korea how crazy is that they do say it's a small Air Force right now um we we hear stories like that all the time yeah so we talked about like the process and the testing and what might be a good proof that are available to those who might uh seek an Air Force career like education pay I mean travel I mean there's got to be a ton right is there so I don't know if we have enough time on the program to cover everything that the Air Force offers but what I'll tell anyone that comes into my office is you have to know your why right everyone has a why for for why they decide to enlist for me mine was education and travel so so far I've had you know a hundred percent of my education paid for I'm currently pursuing my bachelor's degree my wife is well my wife is active duty she got her bachelor's degree she's working on her master's degree so it really depends you know if you're going into the Air Force and you know that that's what you're hoping to get out of it that opportunity is there uh travel right now I'm going to join the Air Force I want to travel I have sent people to basic training and whatever they graduate um I've they've been to Korea they've been to Germany they've been all over Europe uh you know all over Asia um I have had a few who have come right back here to Hill Air Force Base luckily this is a beautiful area and it's pretty desirable um so I don't really have to pull over it but if you want to travel the Air Force definitely has that opportunity yeah I now I remember um in high school and college they'd have the Air Force they'd have the U.S. Army and the Navy you know throughout the year depending on the year come through and give presentations and and I remember one of the biggest things that that attracted people were the benefits can you talk to us a little bit about some of those great benefits that you guys offer to people that are going to onboard yeah absolutely so probably the most common one that we'll see is going to be education right if anyone who's been paying attention education is and that it's paid for yes absolutely so there are a number of education entitlements so there's the GI bill which will pay up to 36 months of college tuition which is like a full four years of college tuition wow most people will reserve that one for when they separate from the Air Force or if you have a spouse and children uh you can pass that on to them as well which is which is right that's that's huge yes sir so I'm trying to set my children up so that is my plan you know pass that on to them because I'll be able to get my bachelor's degree while I'm currently serving active duty and that's another question we get all the time is hey if I serve active duty full time am I even going to have time to go to school the answer is yes yes uh you will have time so although you will see that we are on duty 24-7 that doesn't mean that we are working 24 hours a day um so the Air Force will give you time to go to school so a lot of jobs in the Air Force they're pretty corporate you know you work seven to four um we'll have a swing shift and a mid shift so it really depends but you're gonna have your time off while while you're in the Air Force so what you do at that time is up to you some great shots there on your screen of Brad Worsten in the extra 330 LS like Matt said a local guy from the Logan Utah area and so certain Zaniga we talked about the benefits and jobs but what kind of physical shape or other standards are really important if you're considering joining the Air Force so physical fitness and mental fitness are going to be huge so although the Air Force we do not have a we do not necessarily have a physical requirement aside from a height and weight requirement we don't make them do a PT test so there's no run push-up sit-ups or anything like that unless someone is interested in special warfare so that is going to be a completely separate side of the recruiting right it takes a different mentality to want to do that to want to jump out of airplanes and and do all that cool stuff so if that's the path that someone's interested in they'll definitely have to take that physical test but for us so long as you meet the height weight requirement as well as a number of other academic and medical assessions requirements you're good right I did want to talk about Air Force special warfare recruiting specifically just because there's a lot of people out there who are interested in that but they actually have people that will work with you developers before you actually go into the Air Force to basic military training right yes sir yep so the reason why that program came about is because um we really the Air Force it costs a lot of money to send people to that to that kind of training right and so um before when you're just sending anyone that could meet the requirement well just because you could meet the requirement doesn't necessarily mean that you have the greatest chance of succeeding so the development program is awesome I believe here we have a retired combat controller or a tactical air control party airman who's been through it so knows what to look for so yeah they'll they'll work with you if you can meet the requirements they will work with you until they feel that someone is ready and has a greater chance of succeeding through that training pipeline for those career fields yeah and so for those who are tuning in you know it's uh you take it sounds like you take a I can't remember the name of it but a general test from there you guys will assess you know what's the best for them but it also sounds like if you uh you're you're working with people you're not going to force them into something that they don't want to be in and correct and I think sometimes that's a that's a um a real concern of some people you know it's like oh well I'm gonna you know I'm gonna devote my life to the Air Force there you know I think some people get worried about that but it sounds like you know that it's it's it's not as uh rigid as as one might think you know you're willing to work with people like hey you're specializing in this let's see what we can do and get you into that sector that you might be more passionate into that you might excel in a little bit more and honestly with that the the opening test that the the broad brushing test that you guys give them maybe they might discover something they didn't know that they were good at absolutely there's a wild a huge benefit so let's play myth busters what are maybe the top two or three myths that you hear most and can you debunk those myths yeah so I have an even just today I've heard it probably five to ten times people coming up to me and they say hey I heard that the Air Force is the hardest branch to qualify for because you need the highest as that is not true that is a myth so our standard right now is a 31 same as the other services so sometimes people that's a barrier to entry for whatever reason they like don't think that they can meet the requirements and it's like hey no it's it's not any more different than than joining any other branch that that is a huge one I know there are some more I can't think of them off the top of my head but we definitely hear a lot of crazy stuff and I did just for a moment want to talk about diversity and inclusion the Air Force welcomes everybody absolutely man woman doesn't matter join come join us right yes take the test you know come talk to a recruiter so if someone is really interested in joining the Air Force what are some ways maybe that they can reach out if they don't live near a recruiter so airforce.com is going to be the greatest source of information so on the airforce.com website there's going to be a if you scroll down to the bottom of the website there's going to be a link that says find my recruiter in that link it's going to ask you briefly what your education background is it's going to ask you if you're interested in special warfare and then it's going to ask you to put the zip code of where you live when you put your zip code in it's going to pull up the information for the nearest recruiter to you now that is that is going to be for the active duty side of the house if you're interested in Guard and Reserve you know you're going to have to go to those respective components website so Guard and Reserve you know you're going to go to the like Utah State Air National Guard so that'll be a little bit different but yeah that'll put you in contact with the nearest recruiter to you it'll have their phone number as well as their email and then you can reach out to them that way and Dan maybe another myth buster I think a lot of people think about this and I think it's a great question to ask because I think a lot of people get spooked and this might be another myth is you know oh well I don't know if I want to get into the air force what if I get called to duty and I got to go to war and put my life on the line you know what how do you how is that true you know I think that's a huge mental barrier to entry is that some people in all honest truth there are concerned about but my experience has been with my friends that are in the U.S. Air Force that's not always the case just because you enlist and join doesn't mean you're gonna you know have to go out there and put your life on the line in Iraq or wherever it may be Russia can you speak a little bit to that because I think that's a huge at least for me growing up I know I had a lot of friends you know it was a question we're concerned yeah and it's a valid concern what I will tell people is you know you have to understand what you're doing right because although the air force we are much different than the capabilities that the army Marine Corps and Navy bring to the fight it is what we are part of right at the end of the day we're part of the Department of Defense and our mission is to fly fight and win and protect the United States to be proud of absolutely um but for those individuals that have concerns about you know being on the front lines or that is just not what we necessarily do in the air force so these jets around us that is our mission so where our primary focus is going to be is is keeping those jets in the air right that takes an incredible crew of maintainers of crew chiefs people that are in avionics supply weapons and well there are so many career fields everything that you do in the air force in some way is going to support this mission behind us maybe not the air show right but well even then in the air show right we have a crew of maintainers that are there to make sure that these aircraft are functioning correctly um and that's extremely important when uh you know we're conducting operations somewhere and you know we have a no fail mission you know so um I definitely get those concerns but it's just not necessarily what we do love it well we really appreciate you stopping by getting that aim high phone app is also a way to potentially connect with the recruiter so Sergeant Alex Zaniga you guys will be out here all weekend yes sir yes we will you got a booth or something yes we do so we've got our national asset we've got an f-35 flight simulator we've got a ton of stuff back here if anyone's interested please stop by you need to take your buddy to yeah we need to get in the simulator there you go there's a line I'd recommend getting in line too well hopefully I can show on the media okay media pass all right so we're going to learn a little bit more as Brad worse continues to fly about the gold bar officer recruiters let's take a look the gold bar program is pretty unique because it offers newly commissioned second lieutenants a one-year special duty purely focused on recruiting for Air Force ROTC now the gold bars are able to get outside of the university and reach out into the local community that focused on proctoring tests um volunteering helping on the base and heading up base events as well this has allowed us to now utilize Air Force recruiting services to where we can better reach out to the community through local community involvement events through reaching high schools and universities and by collaborating to conduct total force recruiting efforts if you aspire to be something look out for a mentor someone who can guide you along the way and be that visible person for someone in the future a little bit more about the gold bar officer recruiter program again sardine zaniga and his entire team of recruiters to be out here all weekend long so go check out the booth I I know you're going to be changing out soon but it sounds like you may want to go fly the F-35 simulator oh I got to get in there I I just think it's so cool that these guys not only have to train mentally they have to be good on paper they have to be good physically to fly these these jets and these planes and they're out there defending our country and it'd be cool to simulate that and be like you know oh this is what tom cruise is doing it not really but actually he is that actor he actually learned how to fly and taught and and made the other actors learn how to fly some of them I think that's pretty cool but uh yeah i'm gonna have to go check that out and I think where we're getting at dan is that there's more than just the air show going on absolutely we've got the stem program you could come check out I mean bring your kids it's kid friendly some of you got static aircraft that you can I think some of them you can get inside of them I if I'm not mistaken yep uh and and you know we it's cool there's a lot of people out here that have served our country a lot of veterans that come out to these shows and you can talk to them and the the the sense of american pride utah pride is really it's buzzing in the air it's kind of fun to be around you know this this atmosphere of pride for our country and people who have served it and not to mention the inter meteorologist to me it's such great weather out here uh so I mean we we can easily be triple digits this time of year you might want to talk to the gold bar officer recruiter because they have weather officers so just say just throwing that out dan is so good at recruiting we might need to get you are a stem sergeant after all there you go I used to be way back in the day right so we have still a lot to go on the p-51 is going to fly the a-10 warthog uh the thunderbolt to that is going to be flying uh so we are going to take a break for a little while and go out to the air boss listen to the narration debbie worthing from your ksl five is going to be coming out you guys are going to be doing the super high five and tag out and I'm actually I won't lie maybe a little bit jealous as you see the p-51 there on the ramp you're going to get to go around and check out all these exhibits I know you're going to be busy all day long you better stop by before you head home I've got to I've got to go check out some of those plans I'm just so fascinated and especially since one of my friends is actually training to be a pilot for delta airlines he talks to me about the physics of these planes and how they fly a two prop plane a sport cruiser jets g-force it's really fascinating and and it's just cool to have these static aircraft not only can you watch them in the air do their thing but you can walk up to these touch them look at them well maybe we don't want them yeah people touching them too much but I guess what I'm trying to get at is you can go out to these some of these uh aircraft and when we say static they're just they're not in the air they're not moving they're put uh and you can you can walk up to them and do your thing and check them out and uh gosh we can't forget about that f f-35 simulator I just think that'd be really cool I have to I have to go check that oh and we got vendors we got vendors out here so yeah all you can eat drink whatever watch the air show got the f-35 demo teams coming up this afternoon the us air force thunderbirds there you go so it's going to be a lot of fun he's Matt Johnson not dead hawkets we're going to send it out to the air boss for more of the warriors of the wasatch air and space show european theaters just one of over 15 000 that were built now on the registry around the world there only about 125 or so that's an approximate number still on the registry and about any given day there are about probably 70 that are in airworthy condition and that can fly part of the beauty of this airplane is the sound the music of the Rolls Royce Merlin engine made it up to the p-51 well into the war allowing it to do things I'll explain to you later and built by the Packard Motor Car Company under license in Detroit Michigan for world war two and this airplane now if you look out the dynamite field you might see three mock tanks out there as a little gimmick see the profile of the tanks they're painted dark so that you can pick them out we're going to have some fun with pyro we're going to get the p-51 into the real environment and see it was not only a dogfight aircraft but also a ground attack aircraft as well mark peterson the steward of the aircraft and currently the pilot heller bust is the name of this aircraft flown in world war two by the pilot by the name of heller h-e-l-l-e-r the aircraft was initially mated to an american built allison engine that didn't have the capability to put the airplane into the higher dogfight altitudes it was not the airplane's fault it had all of the qualifications it had the laminar flow wing it had the sleep design it had streamline it had speed but it couldn't get up to the dogfight arena early in the war with that american built engine it was relegated to low level dogfights and ground based attacks when they put the rolls royce merlin engine in with a two speed supercharger it gave the airplane another 10 000 feet of dogfight altitude and another 100 knots of speed that made all the difference in the world with approximately 500 gallons of fuel inside and outside of the airplane it was able to escort our four engine daylight bombers deep into enemy territory and back watch and listen to this ground attack on an enemy field and there is the sound the music of the merlin engine by the way as we're talking about the recent release about a month ago this weekend of top gun maverick movie starring tom cruise who owns an airplane like this and flies it extensively watch as mark peterson comes whistling in for the vertical all of the giant loop he'll go and transition into the half-cuban eight turn around maneuver or five eighths of a loop on the bottom of the airplane you may see a big scoop between the wings and on the belly of the aircraft this was a liquid cool engine much like many of the cars and trucks that you operate if the enemy shot out your lubricant your engine would heat up and it would seize and you would have the glide ratio of a cement block now while that creates a quite a bit of drag the engineers at north american aviation sought to negate that drag they actually made the radiator scoop a jet engine it's got a big opening in front a small variable opening in back and they were actually able to get 300 pounds of thrust from the back of the radiator by that design thereby negating that big bolts that you see there a roll maneuver meant to shake the enemy off your tail next pass coming in by mark peterson and the p-51 top gun mustang will be the victory roll after air to air combat pilot coming back to home base in the european theater if he had shot down one of the enemy aircraft he would do a victory roll over the skies of the friendly field cockpit environment this time coordinated change of direction speed and altitude oh victory roll coming up for the hot pass will have pyro on the ground from fire walkers pyro international and the strafe from mark peterson as he attempts to get the remainder of those tanks the sun reflecting off the highly polished paint scheme well it is said in air to air combat if you can't turn tight you can't fight now with this vintage 1940s airplane coming back in mark peterson is going to sit up for a minimum radius turn and he'll be pulling an awesome six times the force of gravity as he does the tight combat turn here left coming in this should be another hot pass as we maneuver aircraft in the air and aircraft down the ground and again time i want to keep you folks very comfortable i worry about you here are great spectators remember suntan sunblock or sun lotion and hydrate keep hydrated throughout the course of the day i want to take a little break right now between landing and taking off aircraft feel free to do it head for the facilities action will continue remember we're going to be entertaining you till about 4 30 this afternoon we'll give the thunderbirds the airspace at 3 30 over the top of the controls are p-51 mustang an engine by the way a lot of people think because it was a british engine that it was uh something like berlin's magic is actually a sparrow hook a berlin frame but remember as chuck agar used to remind us of lake chuck agar who flew to p-51s in world war two we often say it's powered by a bolsroy's berlin engine he'd say remember tell him it's a package and it was built in america and when the generous said that we made a change so this impressive was a p-51 with its external tanks and 500 gallons or so of fuel taking our 4 engine v-24s and v-17s deep into enemy territory in world war two keeping the enemy fighter pilots at bay tremendously reducing the attrition rate of the shootdowns of our 4 engine bombers which each carried about 10 young men from across america from coast to coast here in u-jaw some on their first flight failure to return and then here comes the p-51 other escort aircraft but nobody did it as good as the p-51 the same type of aircraft formed by the tuskegee airmen the red tail squadron of african-american pilots who fought on two fronts they fought fascism and racism and they excelled they were exemplary and we honor them each and every day the red tail squadron that were requested by the bomber pilots to be their personal escort because they protected the bomber pilots they didn't run off to see florie in a dog fight and leave the bombers vulnerable so that's the type of aircraft among others like the p-47 the p-38 that did the job it could fly from ground level it could fight from ground level of the 39 000 feet over 2000 rounds of 15 caliber ammo for six machine guns each shooting 850 rounds per minute and again fighting from sea level up to 39 000 feet demonstration team performing here at hill the other one thousand feet above the field the state's law they'll drop weighted streamers streamers are weighted at the bottom so they present a vertical target they are multicolored it reduces the tendency of the banners to float in the air actually gain altitude through thermals and presents a vertical picture rather than a horizontal picture the team members will be at that back door the airplane will be in a left bank turn they will watch to see what the banners are doing from two thousand feet onto the ground they know the surface winds they know the winds of three thousand six thousand nine thousand twelve thousand feet and with that in mind they'll determine where they are going to exit your plane in relation to the target that's very supplementary the job directly over the target area as our early bird will tell you you and your entire family can enjoy that all day long take home a memento of the air show and it'll remind you too of the top gun Maverick movie seeing its fourth weekend