 This is the SF Productions podcast network Down up front from the pop culture bunker. I'm Mindy and I'm Mark You can check out our audio podcast how I got my wife to read comics on iTunes or on our website SF podcast network comm The various TV networks recently held their archaic upfront event where they tried to sell Advertisers on their new shows before they air aka upfront It also means the networks made their final calls on which of their existing shows were renewed or canceled. So let's start with that ABC's cancellations The Alec Baldwin show single season child support the fix single season Dancing with the stars juniors single season For the people the kids are all right single season speechless split splitting up together and Whiskey Cavalier single season wait that was a lot. Yeah CBS cancellations were only fam and happy together and Murphy Brown all with a single season and life in pieces the CW cancellations zero cancellations Fox cancelled the cool kids after one season the gifted Lethal weapon the passage after one season proven innocent and rel each after one season and star NBC's cancellations. I feel bad single season Marlin midnight, Texas trial and error. I've never even heard of Marlin. It was on multiple seasons Now some headlines from each network on ABC modern family was renewed for a final season This is a show that has overstayed its welcome already dancing with the stars will return with supposedly bigger celebrities It would be hard to get smaller ones. Maybe taller ones. Yeah, that's it bigger taller. Yeah, and new twists Constance Woo created a fuss when she expressed frustration that fresh off the boat was renewed She had some other project lined up that is now canceled She was blasted online for her comments over at CBS The Big Bang Theory completed its 12-year run young Sheldon will take over the coveted 8 p.m. Thursday slot CBS is trying to dig out of the Les Moonves fiasco They're also in the midst of a CBS news scramble with a new team on the morning show and Nora O'Donnell taking over Cronkite's old chair over on the CW with zero cancellations The CW was staying the course with more teen dramas and superheroes speaking of the latter The annual crisis crossover will run five hours and be spread across the holiday break over on Fox This will be the first season post Disney So Fox is going forward without a home studio for content and their answer is Sports Terry Bradshaw put in his foot in his mouth at the Fox upfront presentation Referring to Kim Jong as the little short guy from Japan Don't put Terry on a live mic over at NBC Keenan Thompson will have two primetime TV series But he's staying on Saturday Night Live, which gives you a good idea of his confidence in those new shows NBC can look forward to the 2020 Summer Olympics for ratings This is us got an unheard of three-year pickup and lawn order SPU become the longest non-simpsons primetime scripted series So now let's move over to the new series introduced at the upfronts as always You'll see fill in the blank returns to TV There's a theme that the networks always fall into last year was remakes and this year It's stability only 16 new fall shows over five networks and brand extension spinoffs of existing series Why because when most of your shows can't reach a full digit rating share It's hard to justify replacing them with unknown quantities And then there are stars who the networks insist we like over and over For now, we're skipping shows announced for mid-season as many of them may never make it to air We may revisit them in a later episode So over at ABC we have mixed ish black ish has become the all-in-the-family of the 21st century Cranking out spin-offs at a rapid rate and this one is young Sheldon meets Kimmy Schmidt with Tracy Ellis Ross's Character as a kid coming out of a commune slash cult adjusting to suburbia Emergence is yet another thriller with a kid surviving a mysterious plane accident, and there's a conspiracy But manifest is still on NBC so there is a market for this I wouldn't be surprised if it took off However, I won't watch it until there is at least a season in the can Stump town Kobe Smolders returns to TV in a show based on a Greg Rucka PI graphic novel Which looks interesting, but it's paired with a set of family sitcoms, so I'm not hopeful This really doesn't fit ABC's brand at all on CBS We have Bob Hart's Abishola the Chuck Lorke joke machine rolls on Billy Gardell returns to TV He plays a cardiac patient who falls in love with his much younger black nurse All rise a courtroom drama with a hint of picket fences Lola Carmichael stars as a judge in a chaotic LA court system And in the unicorn a widow Walter Grogans, or I'm sorry Goggins gets back into the dating world with familiar names helping him out Rob Cordray, Michaela Watkins The show's name refers to a widow who's a devoted father and a nice guy making him a hot commodity Carol's second act Patricia Heaton attempts the trifecta of hit shows returning to TV Did she ever leave as a divorcee and empty nester who decides to become a doctor Kyle McLaughlin also stars And then there's evil the creators of The Good Wife go down the ex-piles route with a skeptical female Psychologist working with a team from the church investigating potential miracles demons and hauntings Mike Coulter from Luke Cage and Michael Emerson from People of Interest co-star Over on the CW Nancy Drew an edgy sexy remake of the classic books and TV series With Kennedy McMahon who apparently has no other credits as the girl sleuth. It's the CW So there's teen drama and supernatural elements It's also apparently going to tie into the Riverdale universe because it's a friend. It's from the same producers Any chance the Hardy boys will show up. I can't wrap my mind around Nancy Drew and Archie in the same universe. Yeah Does that work? Meanwhile Batwoman Greg Berlanti finally figured out how to get around the no Batman rule Ruby Rose Pitt plays Kate Kane a lesbian ex military school student who decides to clean up Gotham in the absence of Bruce her cousin. She was already introduced in the last CW DC show crossover Rachel Skarsten who played black canary on the old birds of prey series is the big bad So let's switch over to Fox and prodigal son a criminal psychologist Tom Paine has a unique perspective His dad Michael Sheen was a serial killer So he knows how killers think brought to you by Greg Berlanti's production company Halston sage from the Orville and Bellamy young from scandal co-star and then you have not just me a fertility doctor Timothy Hutton Personally fathers over 100 children Brittany snow is his daughter and reaches out to two of her Sisters they become a kind of family in this drama not this is us Bless the hearts adding to Fox's Sunday animation Domination what appears to be a king of the hill esque series with a North Carolina family struggling through life Kristen Wiig Maya Rudolph Ike Baronholz provide the voices Emily Spivey Phil Lord and Christopher Miller are the execs then we have NBC with Bluff City law Jimmy Smith's returns to TV and a legal drama He co-stars with Caitlyn McGee as father and daughter lawyers. He's conservative. She's progressive This is a series from 20 years ago I was gonna say he's conservative. She's progressive their detectives. No, they're lawyers Perfect harmony Bradley Whitford returns to TV as an alcoholic ex music professor Who joins up with a small-town church choir in a camp co-stars in this comedy? So it's kind of like glee in a church or pitch perfect something like that in sunny side Cal Penn returns to TV. He's a formal councilman who's busted for public intoxication Who winds up helping dreamers become us citizens in this might share based in this might share comedy But based on the trailer. I'm wondering if it will live up to his previous shows We're willing to give us some time because well the good place, right? So it's another season coming up But a season in which there's not going to be nearly as many new shows. No And this is all a result of the the fracturing Audience right to the point where why should we bother? Making a push for a new show when we've got when hardly anything it makes a dent Well, and we're taking a chance on something new and fall TV Um, doesn't really mean anything anymore with all the new shows being introduced Even on networks 30 years ago 20 years ago networks wouldn't have spring shows that are As good as the spring show they come out now. They exactly they were the ones that were like, okay Well, they're not good enough for fall. We'll give them a mid-season show Yes, and now some of the mid-season shows are actually better than the better shows Yeah, and then they have to compete with everybody else and they have to compete with our audio podcast How I got my wife to read comics on itunes or on our website sfpodcastnetwork.com From the pop culture bunker i'm indy and i'm mark. Thanks for watching