 As I've said that there's certain things that we all long for one of them is longing for the truth We looked at that another thing we long for is to have a clear conscience And because we don't have a clear conscience we long for some form of salvation or a savior Well, the question is can we trust? Jesus is he trustworthy Well another question we can ask Muslims. Can we trust Muhammad? Can we trust him and One way you learn to trust someone is not just by what they say, but how they live The fidelity of their life the consistency of their life Speaks volumes if the person is trustworthy in his his character The way he conducts himself Speaks volumes on if he speaks the truth or lies someone who Is in an affair How can you trust what he says? if his life in actions are Inconsistent how can you trust what he says if his if his daily conduit conduct is full of hypocrisy Well, one of the things we want to look at when we look at Islam Is the life of Muhammad and ask the question can we trust him? Can we trust Muhammad? Can Muslims trust Muhammad and? Can Muslims trust Christ so we want to do a side-by-side comparison of Muhammad? With Jesus Christ and see which one is trustworthy We want to do this by looking at the Quran itself and the hadiths So rather than judging Jesus strictly by the scriptures and the scriptures testimony of Jesus which we should do We're going to look at the Quran and the hadiths and see what they say about Muhammad and see what this literature says about Jesus So the two points that we have when we under the broad question can we trust Muhammad is this what does? Muslims believe about Muhammad and Jesus and secondly What Muslims should believe about Muhammad and Jesus and doing this would do it just a side-by-side comparison of the two prophets first of all What Muslims believe about Muhammad and Jesus was of the Quran and the hadith the two major sources of Knowledge that Muslims look to What does their literature say about Muhammad and about the Lord Jesus first of all What does Muslims believe about Muhammad the seal of the prophets one? They believe Muhammad was spoken about and prophesied about and the Torah and the Gospel If you're witnessing to a Muslim they're often to say well your scriptures Speaks and refers to Muhammad your scriptures that the old and New Testament confirm Muhammad's ministry See what we got to remember Muhammad and the Quran Do not question or did not question the fidelity of the old and New Testament Five verse 68 say old people of the scriptures You have no guidance till you observe the Torah and the Gospel that which was revealed unto you from your Lord So here is the Quran saying to Jews and Christians. You do not have guidance Until you go to your own scriptures and read them Muhammad believed the Torah and the Gospels were were faithful. They were not corrupt Muhammad believed that the old and New Testament were trustworthy guides to lead to truth Muhammad Commanded the Jews and Christians to judge according to their scriptures according to their books Sir 1094 and if I'll be in doubt concerning that which we have sent down unto thee then ask those who have read the books before thee a Surely half the truth come unto thee from the Lord. So be of them that do not doubt sir 2946 and Dispute not with the people of the book unless it be in the best manner save those of them who are doing wrong and Say we believe in that which have been sent down unto us and that which have been sent down unto you Our God and your God is one In fact, Muhammad himself sought to validate his own calling as a prophet By appealing to the authority of the old and New Testaments Surah 7157 It says the unlettered prophet or the one who does not know how to read or write the unlettered prophet Whom they find mentioned in their own scriptures in the law in the scriptures And then it goes on to say in surah 10 94 So if you oh Muhammad are in doubt concerning that which we have revealed unto you That your name is written in the Torah and in the gospel Then ask those who are reading the book the Torah and the gospel for before you Verily the truth has come to you from your Lord So be not of those who doubt it So Muhammad is still questioning is he really called or is he possessed with the Jinn or with Satan in these And he gets a revelation is if you're still in doubt go and read the old and New Testament they speak of you and The various old and New Testament passages that support this they would go to Drudonomy 1815 The Lord your God will rise up for you a prophet like me from among you from your brothers It is to him you shall listen and remember Muhammad was prophesied that he would be a prophet by this Christian monk and Remember he had a family member That confirmed him as being in the line of the prophets and no doubt he was someone had told him that hey they were looking for the Messiah the Jews were looking for their Messiah and then then They looked at this this passage and they said this is where God spoke of you And in the New Testament they would go to passages like John 14 16 Where Jesus says I will ask the father and he will give you another helper To be with you forever and the spirit of truth whom the world cannot receive Because it neither sees him nor knows him you know him for he dwells with you and will be in you So he's the promise of the the holy spirit the parakeet John 15 26 27 But when the helper comes When whom I will send to you from the father the spirit of truth who proceeds from the father He will bear witness about me And you also will bear witness because you have been with me from the beginning So Mohammed is the helper and Muslims will look at that word and the Greek word is parakeet, right? and the Which means helper Which is very close to this other word called parakeet us Very similar sounds very similar to that and if that word translated in arab is amad Which means praised one and that's the meaning of Mohammed praised one And so Parakeet sounds very very close to another word that if you translated it means praised one So I said look there there he's mentioned by name I will send Mohammed And he will lead you into all truth So Muslims say look your own scriptures testify that Mohammed is indeed the prophet of god in fact Muslim believe that Mohammed is the seal of the prophets. He's the final the greatest of all the prophets On why islam.com which is probably the most Well-known site on on islam. In fact, they they're the ones that advertise in new york on billboards on buses Why islam.com and they they they're seeking to convert westerners to the islamic faith This is what it says about Mohammed Islam is the culmination of the universal message of god taught by all his prophets Muslims believe that a prophet was chosen to every nation at some point in their history And joining them to worship god alone And delivering guidance on how to live peacefully with others Some of the prophets of god include adam Noah abraham ishmael isaac jacob joseph moses and jesus And Mohammed peace be upon them all The prophets of all conveyed the consistent divine message of worshiping one god along with specific social laws for each nation's circumstances However, after the prophets delivered the divine guidance to their people their message was lost Abandoned are changed over time. Now. This is a modern Understanding this is not what the chron says But now now that modern muslims have access to the old and new testament They see that this is not what the old testament is saying They see that this is not what the new testament is saying It's not teaching the same thing that the chron is teaching so modern Muslims are saying somehow that message has been perverted lost or warped over time And the reason Mohammed has come is to rectify the corrosion that has come in the Torah and in the gospel And and so god sent Mohammed peace be upon him As the final prophet to all of humanity It goes on to say in 610 The angel gabriel visited Mohammed peace be upon him With the first divine message For the next 23 years he continued to receive revelations until the message was completed Mohammed peace be upon him Called people towards the belief in one god and courage him to be just and merciful to one another He was a living example. This is key. He was a living example of god's guidance For the benefit of the entire human kind And this is why for muslims it's not just the chron They don't have sola scriptura or sola Quran It's the chron plus the hadith And the hadiths are the the written history of the sayings and actions of Mohammed Because Mohammed is the living example of how to follow Allah So if you want to know how to please Allah imitate Mohammed Follow his example in fact Surah 3340 says Mohammed is the messenger of god And the seal of the prophets So he's the last prophets. He seals the prophets and after him We should expect no more prophets Now Throughout all the old and new testament one way of prophets would verify that they were from god They would do something that only god could do And I mean if you come up to me and he says thus say the lord and you have something new to say to me And I have not heard about this. Why would I believe you? Yeah, okay, sure Sure. God said that we would question these people who claim to be hearing and speaking on god's behalf How do I know you're god's messenger? How do I know you're the prophet of god? Where god verified his prophets throughout the old testament period and in the new testament by giving them signs Giving them miracles when you do something that only god can do Man, you're forced to have to listen to this guy How do I know you're speaking from for god you raise them from the dead Now that just doesn't happen So it's proof it's god's divine stamp of approval. Listen to him You know, he is a messenger. He's a prophet. He speaks on my behalf And here are the miracles or the proofs or the signs of his calling Of that he is a ordained messenger sent from god But why would we listen to muhammad? What miracle does he have? What did he do to verify that he actually spoke for god? Well, muhammad himself says i'm the seal Of the prophets muslims believe he's the greatest of all the prophets But they admit that he had no miracle even muhammad says i have no miracles The only miracle that they have At all Does testify that muhammad is someone we should trust and believe is the quran itself And this is the miracle of the quran They would say muhammad was illiterate and there's no way someone that was illiterate could have ever wrote Such a beautiful piece of literature Impossible. In fact, they believe the quran is the most beautiful of all literatures that's ever been written In fact, the quran it says is if you if you doubt that this is from god You try to write one chapter or sir like this. You'll see that you cannot do it Sir 1113. Oh, they may say he forged it Say bring ye the ten sorrows forged like unto it and call to your aid whomever you will other than god And speak the truth If then they answer not your call know you that this revelation is sent down with the knowledge of god Surah 223 and if you are in doubt as to what we have revealed from time to time to our servant Then produce a surah like therein to And call your witnesses or your helpers if there are any by your side He goes and surah 10 38. Oh, do they say he has forged it say then produce a single chapter like it Call upon whomever you can apart from god if you are truthful And one hadith it says every prophet was given signs or miracles because of which People believed in him indeed. I have given him the divine revelation that god has revealed to me So what is the sign that god gave muhammad? So we can trust in him and believe that he speaks on god behalf It's the crown itself that he deep goes on to say So I hope to have the most followers of all the prophets on the day of resurrection So muhammad says I think I will have more followers than moses and abraham than job and even jesus Because I have the greatest of all the signs The greatest of the signs is the crown itself They believe the crown has been perfectly preserved throughout all the generations They believe it it gave these amazing prophecies in fact the most notable prophecy Is in 614 the romans lost ruslam They lost ruslam to this To the persians and muhammad says in a few years romans are going to conquer it back And a few years could mean three to nine years And the romans did conquer it back They did regain ruslam, but it took nine to twelve years. So it may have happened But you know That prophecy would be like the hollum glow trotters getting beat And say well, they're going to win the next one You know, yeah, rom lost ruslam But it wasn't that audacious of a prophecy to predict. Yeah, they're going to regain that one And so they look at this as their greatest fulfilled prophecy To verify that the crown is indeed of god But they're looking at the fact that muhammad wrote this or given it by dictation And there's no way he could have done that on his own And they say muhammad lived the most exemplary life For the rest of us to follow According to legend muhammad was born clean Circumcised in his naval cord already cut And so our 3321 it says indeed the messenger of a la You have a good example to follow for him who hopes For the meeting with a la on the last day So if you Getting ready to meet a la on the last day follow muhammad's example Sure 33 36 it says it is not for a believer man or woman When a la and his messengers have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decisions And whoever disobeys a la and his messenger He has indeed strayed In the in a plain era So muslim is not just what god says in the crown the crown is divine speech from a la The hadiths is the speech of muhammad So muslims want to believe what god says and they also want to believe what muhammad says And that's why they took down the the sayings of muhammad and for the for the devout muslims It's important to know what muhammad says and he used to be obeyed just as much as a la is to be obeyed And this is why the sunnah and the hadiths are so important to muslims The sunnahs are the books that record his actions the hadiths are the books that record his statements or words In fact according to the most important muslim theologian which we talked about in our last session Who wrote in the 12th century? This is what he says Know that the key to happiness is to follow the sunnah That's muhammad's actions And to imitate the messenger of god in all of his coming and going His movement and his rest in the way of eating his attitude his sleep and his talk God has said what the messenger has brought Accept it and what he has prohibited refrain from it That means you have to set while putting on your trousers and to stand when putting on your turban And to begin the right foot when putting on the shoes That's because that's the way muhammad did it He put on his pants setting down it when he he stand up to put his turban on In fact muslims will step into the restroom with their left foot forward Now always step in a restroom left foot Because that's how muhammad would step in a restroom You'll see a lot of muslims they'll have a beard and a shave their mustache Because that's what muhammad did muhammad wore his pants above his ankles. We call them high waters Well muslims do the same many devout muslims. They want to follow the pattern of muhammad in fact one man One muslim refused to eat watermelon And they asked why won't we not eat watermelon? He goes well because we Don't believe muhammad ate watermelon And it's not that we know if he would eat it or not eat it It's just the fact we don't know how he would cut the melon Or how he would proceed to eat the melon and since we don't know that I'm referring from eating watermelon watermelon So Literally muhammad lived an exemplary life for all to follow and to imitate In fact Some muslims not all of them But a great many of them believe that muhammad must intercede on your behalf We talked about assurance of salvation in our last session I didn't bring this up because I did that I didn't want to make it seem like all muslims view that muhammad must pray for you or intercede for you But many muslims come to the point that they really believe muhammad must intercede on your behalf in fact One theologian says that many who have died and gone to hell have been brought out of hell And brought into paradise on the basis of muhammad's prayers for them and according to The book answering answering Islam Not only is muhammad given the permission to intercede But his intercession is so effective that many of those who have been originally condemned to hell Are released from hell and taken to heaven do the mercy of the prophet in fact muhammad has become deified And some traditions islamic traditions and this is this is amazing because they believe in monotheism And there's no session with association with god and you must keep god above everything But I think it's because In islam there's no relationship with god you can have a relationship with him You can only serve his will but you can't know him personally know him You can't personally interact with him And even paradise is not a relationship eternally living with god or with living with aula Paradise is you having all your dreams fulfilled Having health and wealth and prosperity and abundance That's paradise. So so muslims don't have a relationship with aula I think it's it's it's a it's just a natural tendency for them to clean to muhammad At least he's a person at least he's personable And in so doing is some of them have almost deified him Abdul Salib says It is generally agreed that according to orthodox islam the purpose of man is not to know god and become more conformed to his character But to understand his will and become more obedient to his commands And kenneth crag Says the revelation communicated God's law it does not reveal god himself Islam is finally the law It's a it's a theology is law not the theology of god himself In the last analysis the sense of god is a sense of divine command In the will of god there is none of the mystery that surrounds his being His demands are known and the believer's task is not so much to explore who god is It's not even to have fellowship with him But rather to obey him So with the unknowable god is easy to see why muslims come close To deifying muhammad and I think it's for this reason muslims Or more were more accepting if you you can you can critique aula and they don't like that But what you cannot do is critique muhammad In fact anyone who mocks our questions muhammad Is in danger of being put to death In fact surah 33 57 says those who insult god and his messenger God has cursed them in this life in the life hereafter Surah 3 32 say obey aula and the messenger so obey aula and muhammad But if they turn away then indeed aula does not love Their distal the disbeliever Surah 48 29 muhammad is the messenger of god And those with him are forceful against the unbelievers In fact some traditions muhammad is praised in verse with these words If muhammad had not been God himself would not have existed So they get close to putting muhammad Is uh, they don't do it, but they get close to putting god muhammad equally with god I mean it's like almost they're they're trying to avoid the sin of stric Of association anything with god But in a roundabout way they tend to exalt muhammad into that place now we can worship jesus as god But that's consistent without theology It's not consistent for muslims to worship muhammad in the way that they do So this is what muslims believe about muhammad they really trust him they look up to him In fact his to the point that his actions in his sayings are as good as the actions and sayings of god The Quran says obey muhammad Follow his example, and that's why the hadiths are so important to to muslims So what does muslims believe about jesus? Well jesus is mentioned 97 times in the Quran Remember there's only 114 different surahs So that's I mean he's mentioned 97 times that's a lot The Quran teaches us that jesus was born a virgin He was not pre-incarnate But he's a new creation surah 359 says the likeness of jesus in god's side is that of adam He created him from dust then said to him be and he was And so it's almost like jesus did not pre-exist in eternity past But in mary's womb he god says be he born of a virgin birth But god spoke him into existence if you would in the womb Surah 29 30 29 91 says and she Talking about mary who guarded her virginity We breathe into her our spirit And made her and her son a sign to the world They also believed that mary was a virgin surah 19 22 through 33 talking about mary So she conceived him and she withdrew with him to a remote place And the pains of childbirth drove her To the trunk of a palm tree She said I wish I had died before this And had been long forgotten See mary was worried that the people would think badly of her that she was not married Then baby jesus called from below her Just baby at this time saying do not be sad your lord has provided a stream under you Shake the trunk of the palm tree towards you and it will drop on you fresh ripe dates So eat and drink and be happy And if you see any human then say Indeed I have bowed a fast to the most merciful so I will not speak to any human today Then she carried him and brought him to her people They said oh mary indeed you have done a great evil Oh sister of erin your father was not an evil man and your mother was not a fornicator So she pointed to him They said how can we speak to a child in the cradle? Jesus said Indeed I am a slave of God He has given me the scriptures and made me a prophet And he has made me blessed wherever I may be And he has enjoined on me prayer and charity as long as I remain alive And has made me kind to my mother and to not make me arrogant or miserable And peace be upon me the day I was born and the day I will die and the day I will be raised alive So this is in the chron speaking about Jesus's own virgin birth They believe he was a prophet um In sura 20 and sura 19 verse 22 when his family and friends begin to question mary pregnancy She pointed to the cradle And jesus the baby would speak to him And verified that he indeed was a prophet of god They believe jesus taught islam They believe jesus was not divine And they believe that jesus did not die on the cross in fact sura 4 157 Says and for their saying when we had killed them aside jesus the son of mary the messenger of god In fact, they did not kill him Nor did they crucify him Because mohammed thought it was disrespectful for any of the prophets to die a shameful death All it would not allow that to happen And they don't believe that all of himself I mean mohammed himself died a shameful death even though tradition says the history book says that he died a poison by a jewish woman But most muslims deny that because that's a shameful way of dying So mohammed denied that jesus could have died a shameful death But he goes on to say in fact they did not kill him nor did they crucify him But it only appeared to them as if they did Indeed those who differ about him are in doubt about it They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumptions Certainly they did not kill him Rather god raised him up to himself God is mighty and wise So most muslims believe that jesus did not die on the cross But during the time of his trial and he was beaten Sometime it only appeared like he died so god took him to heaven And he placed someone in jesus's place most muslims believe Judas was the one who died on the cross that god somehow put judices On the cross and they they believe in some form of spoon theory that it appeared like jesus died but he really didn't die on the cross and some think that miraculously The image of judices face was put on jesus's face And so they thought they had jesus but in reality they were crucifying judice And they muslims believe that jesus could not have been a substitute payment for our sins muslims do not believe in substitutionary atonement Church 1715 Says who receives guidance receives it for his own benefit Who goes astray does it so to his own loss No bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another Surah 53 38 That no burden person With sins shall bear the burdens or sins of another And so muslims would ask this question How is it fair? And just for a god to punish the wrong person How is that fair now that's a legitimate question? And we need to be able to answer that So think about that. How is it fair for god to put to death someone who's innocent? Would you be satisfied as a parent to punish the wrong child when you know The child didn't do anything wrong Could you do that? And if you were a child would you think that that's okay? now going back to um My wife's cousin Who was murdered and they they can the man is guilty his DNA evidences in his fingers nails What if this murderer Said i know i'm guilty But i have a brother that said he'll take my place And his brother who did not commit the crimes Said i'll take i'll take my brother's place put me to death or put me into prison I'll take the crimes of my brother. I know i didn't do it But i'll be a willing substitute on his behalf Would you be happy with that? Would you be satisfied knowing that the wrong person is put into prison? The wrong person may be put to death and all the while the guilty person is free Even if the guilty person says he's truly sorry It's truly remorseful Could you be satisfied with the wrong person being punished well muslim says you can't punish the wrong person This is insane Rob bell I'm glad you know who he is He says the cross is cosmic child abuse And muslims would agree with that How do you answer that? Well, they say it can't be answered. There's no way i just god would punish an innocent his innocent son For those who are guilty. He's too just to do so But they do believe jesus is coming back At the end of the age established the islamic state now This is what muslims believe about muhammad and they believe about jesus. So they believe in jesus. He's a prophet Now he's not divine. He didn't die for sins, but he's a prophet who taught islam And they believe muhammad is the greater prophet who they're Moderate their life from Now this last half of this session I want to turn our attention to what muslims should believe about muhammad and what they should believe about jesus So what should they believe about muhammad? First of all muhammad was not prophesied in the bible Drutonomy 1815 the lord your god will rise up for you a prophet like me from among you from your brothers It is to him you shall listen Now this disqualifies muhammad immediately It disqualifies him as being the prophet prophesied Because the prophecy says i will raise up from you From your own kinsman from your own brothers a prophet In fact the word brothers there means fellow israelite It's contrast to a foreigner As when god told israel to choose a king from their own brethren And drew it on me 1715 their own brethren meant from the lineage of abraham And isek and jacob Even the crown claims that the prophetic line came through isek and not ishmael Sir 29 27 so they even admit that the the line lineage of prophets came to the jews So why would god raise up a prophet not from the brethren but from his enemy their enemies So drotomy 1815 does not allow for muhammad to fulfill that prophecy That the lord jesus obviously is an israelite and can fulfill that prophecy What about john 14 17 and i will ask the father and he will give you another helper to be with you forever Even the spirit of truth whom he whom the world cannot receive because it's neither sees him nor knows him You know him Listen to this for he dwells with you and will be in you Muslims don't believe muhammad lives within us or lives within them But this prophecy of a helper is someone who dwells within The followers of god this cannot be muhammad Jesus actually says to the disciples you already know him He already dwells with you And he will be in you But you already know them The disciples of jesus did not know muhammad John 15 26 is another passage that they look at But when the helper comes when i will send to you from the father the spirit of truth Who proceeds from the father he will bear witness about me and you also will bear witness of because You have been with me from the beginning Now this can't be muhammad either muhammad does not proceed from the father This would make muhammad divine muhammad's message Was not centered on christ And what jesus says and he will testify of me That this helper his main message would be the message of jesus christ John 14 26 clearly identifies the helper as the holy spirit John 14 26 says but the helper The holy spirit Whom the father will send you in my name He will teach you all things and bring you in remembrance all that i have said to you James white says of this one of the crown's most central claims about muhammad is that with is without a foundation The argument is false and cannot be maintained in light of honest and consistent argumentation What does this mean for the prophetic claims of the of muhammad muhammad believed that the Torah and the gospels In the possession of the people of his day pointed to him And we know we possessed today what they had then and it does not point to muhammad Obviously we the bible old and new testament did not prophesy of muhammad muhammad does not meet the qualifications of those texts Secondly muhammad did not live exemplary life And this is important. Can we trust him? Well, we can't trust the old and new testament speaks of him Can we trust him by looking at his character his example his life? well Muslims in the Quran are to only have four wives you can marry but you can only have four wives. That's what all it says four wives Some it's debatable, but muhammad either had nine Or up to seventeen wives So why why is he the exception? Well, also muhammad married his adopted son's wife Zainab we heard that story last night And Basically to review you of that story He goes and sees his His adopted son whom he adopted And he goes to his house and he's not home, but his wife is there his Daughter-in-law is there and she happened to not be fully clothed And he said something under his breath praise be to god And she recognized that She reckoned she recognized that he was referring to her beauty and Anyway, when her husband comes home, he relays that she relays that to her husband That was a not a very good marriage. And so he Said i'll divorce my wife so you can marry her but all I mean muhammad already had four wives And so he already had four wives. This is his son's wife and in that culture that was considered incest But he thought She was beautiful And so he gets a new prophecy We heard about that last night And it's insurer 33 36 It is not for any believer man or woman when god and his messengers have decided a matter to have liberty to choose in their decision Whoever disobeys god and his messengers has gone far astray When you said to him whom god had blessed And you had favored keep your wife to yourself and fear god But you hid within yourself that what god was to reveal to you and when you feared the people But it was god whose war you were supposed to fear Then when zade in indeed ended his relationship with her, we gave her to you in marriage That there may be no restrictions for believers regarding the wife of the adopted sons When their relationships has ended the command of god was fulfilled There is no blame on the prophet regarding what god has ordained for him So this is divine revelation is internally Pass put on the cold the tablets of stone telling muhammad that it's okay for him to marry his daughter-in-law That recently divorced his adopted son His other wife the one he married that was six years old aisha Aisha said this I fear that your lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and your desires So even aisha realized that a la seems to just give muhammad what he wants And when he wants it No matter that this included divorce no matter that he was already married to four wives No matter that this was his daughter-in-law And no matter that this would end adoption from there that point forward In fact sir 33 4 says a la has not made for any man two hearts in his one body Nor has he made your wives whom you divorce by zear your mothers Nor has he made your adopted sons your sons Such only your manner of speech by which with your mouths, but a la tells you the truth And he shows the right way call them by the names of their fathers That is just in the sight of a la but if you know not their father's name call them your brothers in the faith are your But there is no blame on you if you make a mistake therein What counts is the intention of your heart and a la is forgiving. He's merciful So he gets a revelation saying This adoption was not seen in the sight of god. This is really not your son You don't have to feel guilty that you're marrying your daughter-in-law Which ends adoption for muslims even to this day Muhammad also sanctioned husbands beating their wives Sir 434 men are in charge of women because a la had made the one to excel the other As for those whom you fear rebellion amonish them and banish them to their beds And scorch them So your husbands have testy wives Go ahead and banish them To their beds and if necessary scores them Muhammad listened to the jinn when he gave the syntantic verses How can you trust this man if later he says wait I was mistaken The revelations I got was not from a la It was from satan or satan's messenger So he myths that he's mistaken And not just mistaken in a minor issue. He's mistaken in the revelation of god Is this someone we can trust? Muhammad sanctioned and participated in the caravan raids In fact one of the raids it was on the Sabbath their Sabbath day and The caravans would always travel on that day because they knew that they could trust People not to fight. No one would fight during that time and Muhammad sent out 10 of his 10 Muslims That went to and he sent them out on a mission and he gave them a letter and said don't open it until you get to a certain place Then open it and obey And it happened to be on that Sabbath day They open up the letter and it said to raid the caravan And many of them says we can't do this. This is not right. This is against god yet They followed Muhammad's instructions and they would end up Rating the caravan Remember how Muhammad had that jewish poet murdered? Remember there was a jewish Poet Medina who had some type of poem that that made light of Muhammad Muhammad asked who's going to take care of this someone says i'll take care of you terror caravan. I'll kill him So a few assassins went Brought him out of his home in the middle of the night and assassinated him Because he wrote something negative about Muhammad Muhammad also sanctioned jihad In fact some of the hadiths Says all his apostle said i have ordained to fight with the people till they say none has the right to be worshiped But all it is not fitting for a prophet that he should have prisoners of war And free them with ransom until he's made a great slaughter among his enemies And he also says one of the hadiths whomever changes his Islamic religion then kill him In fact after Muhammad's death you have the apostate wars Or many Muslims go back to polytheism after Muhammad died and so The muslim's army goes and it's called the apostate wars and they go and Slay those who have forsaken Muslims That's one when we have witnessed to muslims realize That if they forsake Islam They're endangering their life And the question would ask if a western muslim you ask him if You have a friend who becomes a christian One of your islamic brothers become a christian should you kill him? Most of them will answer this Because we live in the west we should not But if we lived in the islamic state they should be put to death But this is by the sanctions and the command of Muhammad himself Muhammad did not perform any miracles To say his literary style the literary style of the Qur'an Proves that it is a divine miracle really proves nothing On the eternal tablets of stone that is written On gold This is one of the things that must that was written on those tablets surah 33 53 Oh you who believe Do not enter the home of the prophet unless you're given permission to come over for a meal So don't just go knocking on Muhammad's door seeing if you can come visit him And do not wait for its preparation And when you are invited go in And when you have eaten Disperse without lingering for conversation This irritates the prophet And he shies away from you But god does not shy away from the truth And when you ask his wife for something ask them from behind a screen That is pure for your hearts and their hearts You must never offend the messenger of god Nor must you ever marry his wife's after him For that would be sin with god So here In this eternal tablets Of gold here's a surah that we cannot reproduce. This is something. It's beautifully written This one is about how to conduct yourself in Muhammad's house And so when you're invited come in eat your meal and when you're done eating Excuse yourself and do not linger for conversation because this irritates the prophet We just ask ourselves And we've already looked at this a little bit These eternal tablets Is this not the sin of shrek? Is not the eternal tablets Something that could be associated with god but not god Why would eternal tablets have verses That needed to be abrogated Why would eternal tablets have satanic verses written upon them? Why would eternal tablets Have non-arabic words in fact There are over a hundred non-arabic words and they said the language of god is in arabic But many of the words in the cron Such as egyptian assyrian assyric hebu Include egyptian assyrian assyric and hebu and even greek words Are in the cron The most notable prophecy about rom reconquering druselm That could have been just simply a safe prediction And secondly, when was the bible corrupted? Muslims say today that the old testament new testament are corrupted But they say that it had to be truthful and trustworthy at the time of muhammad But the problem with that we have manuscript evidence We have manuscripts that predate muhammad's life And these manuscripts say exactly the way the bible says today and the way it said back when it was originally given When was the bible corrupted if they say before the cron then the cron must have erred when it told drus and christians to trust A corrupted text to verify the truthfulness of the cron If they say after the cron Then must they must overlook the fact that we have manuscripts that existed prior to the cron The cron judges the scriptures to be faithful But twisted by their followers However, we have the bible And the message that we have which the cron says for us to believe Connor dicks the message of the cron Unlike the prophets of the bible muhammad had no supernatural evidence That he was called a god He has no miracle nothing that we said we should trust him only thing we have is the cron the cron is Self-conadictory with its contradicts itself To saying that it is Divine because of its literary style Is is no proof that it's divine It would be like saying i'm the strongest man in the world because i'm the most beautiful man in the world Being beautiful doesn't mean necessarily you're strong And being a beautiful piece of literature doesn't mean it's divine So muhammad is not to be trusted There's nothing that verifies that he speaks on god's behalf in fact his life If anything undermines that he's an exemplar for us to follow He was a murderer Very prodful and arrogant man He was adulterer and it could be argued that He committed incest with his own daughter-in-law But what should they believe about jesus? One they should believe that he is the pre-incarnate son of god muhammad had little understanding of what the bible actually said he only had Oral tradition and what was talked to him by the people around him and and muhammad seemed to think that The word begotten meant that christians believe that jesus was begotten by God the father and mary And muhammad thought the trinity was father mary and jesus That was his understanding of the trinity Surah 72 30 33 4 says and the exalted Is the the grandeur of our lord. He never had a mate nor a child But the fools among us used to say nonsense about god Surah 4 171 oh people of the scriptures do not Exaggerate in your religion and do not say about god except the truth the messiah jesus the son of mary Is the messenger of god and his word that he conveyed to mary and the spirit from him So believe in god and his messenger and do not say three Refrain it is better for you god is only one Glory be to him that he should have a son To him belongs everything in the heavens and the earth How can we trust the cron when the cron? builds a straw men argument about the trinity If this is the eternal word of god written on tablets of gold from all eternity past Would you not think all would really understand what the bible the new testament says about the trinity that you see The cron doesn't understand the trinity Secondly, they jesus did Was crucified on the cross Even mark urman a liberal scholar says one of the most certain facts of history is that jesus was crucified in the orders of the roman Prefect of juda Pontius pilot Even people who don't believe in christianity says is without a doubt historically that jesus died on the cross They may doubt his resurrection, but no legitimate Scholar historical scholar doubts the fact that jesus died on the cross Also, they should believe that jesus is our substitute Remember how the cron says that no one can bear the burdens of another And however one of the hadith contradicts that On the day of resurrection My nation will be gathered into three groups One sort will enter into paradise without rendering an account for their deeds Another sort will be reckoned an easy account emitted into paradise Yet another sort will come bearing on their backs heaps of sins like mountains All will ask the angels Though he knows best about them Who are these people? They will reply they are humble slaves of yours He will say unload the sins from them and put The same over the jews and christians Then let the humble slaves go into paradise by virtue of my mercy so even Muhammad is saying These muslims that may barely make it into paradise One way that all is going to do that is take the sins off them and put them upon jews and christians And us jews and christians will have to bear the sins of the muslims Isn't that a form of substitution? So when muslims question us on the belief of substitutions because i know even though the cron denies it Muhammad says That jews and christians will bear the sins of muslims But we need to ask our question in conclusion. How can we believe that jesus could die for our sins? How could god be just and knowingly Place our sins upon someone as innocent Now let's think for a minute in conclusion here If that was your daughter that was killed and the judge says okay I'm going to um i'm going to lock up his brother In your grief and in your sorrow sorrow you may think to yourself Well as long as someone is punished. I'm happy And you forget a moment because you're not thinking clearly go okay I accept that the brother is going to have to Possibly die But what would happen six months later? Yeah, you begin to think about it And you run into your daughter's murderer at walmart Then you begin to think this is just not right He's out free This is not just An innocent innocent man is in prison This has only made matters worse So how can we believe as christians that christ died for our sins without god committing cosmic child abuse? Well, the bible gives us an answer the bible says That an eternity blast that we were elected in him Jesus says all that the father has given me I have lost none Well, this election is in christ even our election is in union with jesus christ in christ Then god the father took a particular people And says jesus they are yours They're your possessions and jesus took ownership Of his people his chosen people and became Legally responsible for his people A couple years ago me and my wife went to a flea market and and I guess it was christian our middle child In a stroller And of all the things in the flea market there was this ugly little angel ceramic thing All things you know and he reaches out his hand And swipes that thing off the table That thing broke too And i'm there with avid dilemma right there. Okay. Here's this ugly little thing. It's my kid broke it What do I do? Well, I could have done this I could have went to the lady and says You know If you have a problem take it up with my boy He did it. I didn't do it You take it up with him. He's two years old You can take it up with him But that's not the way it works doesn't I am my son's father And I am his legal representative In legally in the in the eyes of the law we are one Just like a marriage union You're in your husband and wives. There are one One's debt is the other one's debt one's riches the other man's riches other ladies which riches When my boy broke that I had to go up and pay for it As if it was my Problem as if I had broke it It was just and right that I pay for it because my child is legally under my protection The reason christ can die in the atonement not be cosmic child abuse Is because god gave his people God gave his son jesus a people And when we broke the law when we broke that figurine Jesus stood up says they're mine They're mine I'll take care of this I will pay for their sins Because They are in union with me They've been chosen in me and they belong to me and when he died on the cross our names were written on the palms of his hands And upon his forehead so when he died we died with him In the beauty of this and this is what I want to close on this is why christianity is so much more beautiful than islam If you accepted the innocent brother to go to prison on behalf of the guilty brother Six months later all of a sudden you'd be enraged all over again But that's not what god did just blindly takes an innocent person and treats him as he's guilty But the bible says he made him who know no sin to be sinned for us That we might be made made the righteousness of christ in him The why we're made the righteousness of christ is because we're in him And this means that our sins are eternally forgiven Christ indeed paid for our sins in full So can we trust muhammad? I believe by muhammad's own testimony by the hadiths and the cron He's an untrustworthy prophet and he's no sure god to follow Jesus and jesus alone is the only way to the father