 it is fine in all the prophets before Islam and messengers. However, there are some verses within the Holy Quran that apparently imply that Prophet Adam and some other prophets who committed sin. Tonight's episode is an attempt to study the concept of Asma infallibility in the light of the Quran. Respect to the viewers, brothers and sisters in Islam Assalamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Welcome to the fourth episode of Life from Karbala, Ramadan series with me, your host Ahmed Ali. As I mentioned, it is the fourth night, so for the dear viewers who didn't get the chance to view the previous episodes, you can check out our YouTube page at Imam Hussein 3 TV to check out the previous episodes. But without further ado, let us welcome my dear guest and esteemed guest, Sayed Hussein Al-Qazween. Assalamu alaikum Sayyidina. How are you? Assalamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Alhamdulillah. Alhamdulillah. Sayyidina, just a brief overview. In the first episode, we talked about Ramadan in the Quran. The second episode, we talked about Imamah in the Quran. The third episode, we talked about Shafa'ah in the intercession. And today, inshallah, we want to talk about infallibility within the Holy Quran. It's always good to keep in mind that a person is able to become fallible if he overcomes his desires and the pleasures that any regular human wants. But if we want to kick off today's episode, the first question would be what is infallibility and why is it important? And also, does it mean that a person no longer has the ability to sin? Is that a virtue? Assalamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Asma or infallibility is a spiritual level in which a person has the ability to commit sins. If he wants to commit a sin, he could definitely physically can commit a sin. He could drink, he could gamble, he could commit fornication or adultery. However, that spiritual level prevents him from committing a sin. He's reached such a stage in which he does not desire sin. If he wanted to, he could, but he no longer desires sin. He's protected from sin. This is what we call asma, infallibility. Of course, this is a position, a spiritual position that is granted by Allah SWT. It doesn't come for free. Allah SWT gives this spiritual level to those who he feels have earned it. He doesn't randomly pick those who have earned the level of asma. He bestows upon them that asma, that infallibility. So it's not anyone, someone off the street. People that Allah SWT feel they have reached a stage in which they are worthy of asma, they are worthy of infallibility. Allah SWT gives them that purity when they become Muslim. It's a, to clarify. It's not, you know, it's not something that by chance, this quality does not come by chance. It's earned. It's earned. You have to earn this degree, this status. Allah SWT offers you asma. Now, some scholars, you know, they analyzed. They said, well, what is exactly infallibility? What are you talking about? Yes. This spiritual level, this spiritual degree. What is that spiritual degree that a person reaches in which he no longer commits sins, no longer desires sins, and will not take his obligations lightly? Yes. He will take his obligations seriously, his fasting, his prayers, his hajj, his qoms, his zakat. So he does everything that he has to do, and he doesn't do anything that he should not do. How does this person attain infallibility? What is it? Is it a magical spell? Is it something that Allah recites, and this person all of a sudden becomes infallible? What is it exactly? Some scholars say that the reality of infallibility is actually knowledge. Knowledge. Allah SWT bestows upon some people that are worthy. Why do I say that they are worthy? So that no one will come and say, well, there's a distinction happening. I'm sorry, discrimination happening. Well, Allah SWT gave these people infallibility. Why doesn't he give these people infallibility? Why couldn't he make everyone infallible? Why? That's why I say infallibility is earned. It's a degree that is earned by your actions, by your deeds. Allah SWT bestows upon some people knowledge. And that knowledge is what stops the infallible person from sinning. Why? Because, for example, stealing. An infallible person will never steal. Why? Because he has knowledge of stealing. He has knowledge of the reality of sinning. He sees how disgusting it is. What an ugly behavior it is. So immediately he'll be drawn away. He'll be repelled. He'll be disgusted. And so, too, all other sins. It's his knowledge of good and evil that makes him more drawn to good and stay away from it. It's knowledge. He gives wisdom to those who want to. And those who give wisdom to those who want to. So he's given a lot of good. Don't we believe in this? Yes, we do. That Allah SWT bestows wisdom and knowledge upon who he wishes. And he takes care of Allah and teaches you. The Quran says that Allah teaches you. If we agree that infallibility is a form of knowledge. And knowledge is taught by Allah. Yes. Does that make sense? It does. I think this clears a lot of confusion regarding infallibility. Why some people are granted infallibility and others are not granted infallibility. Let me give you an example. If you go to a restaurant and there's two people. Two people go to a restaurant. They go together. One of them goes and immediately sits on the table and orders. The other person goes to the washroom to wash his hands. He passes by the kitchen. And he decides to take a look in the kitchen. What's happening? He goes inside and he sees that the cook and the chefs and his assistants are cooking the food without gloves. Not just that, but their hands are dirty. They just came out of the restroom without washing their hands. Wow, that's disgusting. This is good for those that are having a flaw right now. Yeah. I have to make them stop eating a little bit. Disgusting hands, dirty hands. The cook has long hair and his hair is falling all over the food. Wow, that's great. And then water pours on the food. It's a mess. It's a mess. And then he brings out the dish and he brings it on the table. These two friends, they came together. Who's going to eat, who's not going to eat? Well, the person who checked it out. The one who didn't see, the one who was clueless, he's going to eat the whole thing. Definitely. Because he's starving and he's fasting. The person who saw isn't going to have a single bite to eat. Definitely. Why? Because he saw what's in this food. So he's not even going to crave this food. He doesn't even need to push himself. No, he doesn't crave this food. This is knowledge. Infallibility is similar to this. It's similar to this. It's when you see the reality of this action. Others who are not infallible, they don't see the reality. They think it's fun. Backbiting. It's fun. It's enjoyable. But a person who's infallible, he sees the reality of backbiting. And gossip and gheba. Because the Qur'an says He loves one of you to eat his brother's meat. And infallible person will not say gheba because it's as if he could see with his own eyes that he's eating the flesh, the dead flesh of his brother. This is asma. That's why this person who is not infallible, he doesn't have knowledge, will go ahead and commit all kinds of sins because he likes that knowledge and foresight. While the person who's infallible has the knowledge will take a stab at him. From my understanding, this is what infallibility means. Now, why is it so important? Why is infallibility so important? Why is it discussed? And why do we, the followers of Ahlul Bayt, we emphasize on infallibility while others, some of them even reject infallibility. They say infallibility doesn't even exist. There's no such thing as infallible people except a couple. Except prophets. And their infallibility is shaded. It's not full infallibility. Exactly. We'll talk about this in a minute. Why is this so important? Because if we prove that some people after Rasulullah sallallahu alaihi wa sallam are infallible, what does infallibility mean? It means they're sinless. It means they do not commit sins whatsoever. If we prove that some people are infallible and others are not, doesn't this mean that these people should be followed? Definitely. And others should not be followed? Definitely. So the question of leadership will arise. The question of infallibility will take us to the question of leadership. If we prove that this person was infallible and that person was not infallible, then why haven't we been following this person this whole time? Instead of following this person. So you see, the topic of infallibility has a political aspect to it. It has a political aspect to it. Well, what I understood from the meaning or the definition you gave to and the examples that you've provided is that the power of asthma does not well, does not make the maqsum person incapable of committing sin. No. It's not by his complete power and will. Absolutely. And if otherwise, there's no merit of being a maqsum. No. If everything is... It'd be like angels. Yeah. Angels do not sin either, but it's not a virtue to be an angel. It's enforced on them to not sin. It's enforced on them because they do not have desires. Allah swt has taken all the desires away from them. Yes. So it's not a virtue. Angels don't have a virtue over human beings. They don't sin. They don't sin not by virtue, but by predestination. They're destined not to sin. Death not to sin. Well, we believe that asthma, no, it's a choice. At the end of the day, you have a choice. Yeah. An infallible person can sin if he wants, but he no longer desires sin. Yeah. Because of the knowledge that he's attained, he no longer desires sinning. Well, right there, if we want to make this, you know, these assertions 100% and want to provide proofs. I mean, as Muslims, we can say the majority, you just mentioned that some people refute the aspect and that concept of infallibility. And that's within the religion of Islam. Some Muslims do refute that concept. But if we want to go as Muslims, we believe that the prophets, all the prophets, 124,000 prophets are infallible. Are there any evidences improved from the Quran that indicate the infallibility of prophets? Several. We have several proofs from the Quran. We have proof from the Quran that all prophets in general are infallible, not just prophets, imams as well, prophets and imams. And we have specific proof regarding Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. Let's see. Let's see. Bismillah ar-Rahman ar-Rahim. Transgressors. Oppressors cannot be my representatives. Ahadullah, that means to represent Allah on the face of this earth, to speak in His name, to act by His name. To say that Allah says this, Allah says that. Allah tells us to do this, Allah tells us not to do that. The spokesman for Allah. To be a spokesman for Allah. This is Ahadullah. No oppressors cannot be spokesmen in my name. They cannot be my representatives. Who are the representatives of Allah? Who? Prophets, messengers, imams, as we talked when we spoke about them. Yes, we talked about a couple of nights ago. And, you know, the qualities of an Imam, we briefly spoke about infallibility. Yes. But tonight we're talking in detail. No oppressors cannot be a spokesman or a representative for Allah. And we discussed this. What is the meaning of oppressor? We said there's three kinds of oppressor. A person who oppresses others. A person who oppresses himself. And a person who oppresses Allah swt. You oppress Allah by disobeying him. You oppress yourself by disobeying Allah. Because you're exposing yourself to the punishment of Allah. And you oppress others by, there's lots of ways of oppressing others. Can I just, if you can clear up some mis-confusion. Oppressing Allah, what does that mean? Can Allah be oppressed? Yes. Allah oppressed, not in the physical term. You might be thinking in the physical term of oppression, you know, like someone beating someone. No, that's an oppression. Another problem of oppression. Various types of oppression. When a slave disobeys his master, that's oppression towards his master. When a leader does not listen to his followers, when a president of a country does not listen to his followers, that's oppression to his followers. When the needs of the citizens are not met, that's oppression. Oppression is not just physical. It's emotional. It's intellectual. There's many forms of oppression. When a slave disobeys his master, that's oppression towards the master. We oppress Allah swt by disobeying him. This is ghul. This is ghul. When we commit a sin, we're also oppressing ourselves. So however you look at it, a person who sins is an oppressor. It's an oppressor. Yes. This is one. That's one. To oppress specifically regarding Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. However, we could, you know, we could generalize and say that this goes for all prophets as well. The Qur'an says then in Rasulullah you will find a great example. Example. If Rasulullah would sin, lie, cheat, backbite, gossip, steal, fornicate, would he be a good example for people? Definitely not. Absolutely not. When Allah swt says Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, that means Rasulullah is perfect. That's the only way you could be an uswa. You could be an example for the people. You cannot be an example when you're just like the rest. You sin, cheat, you lie, you backbite, you deceive. You see? Being a good example means that you're a perfect human being. Nothing bad comes from it. So we could benefit from this verse. We could use this verse. Furthermore, even if we didn't have verses in the Qur'an, if we didn't have we have rational proof that a prophet has to be infallible, has to be sinless. Why? Because if Allah swt sends a prophet, and this prophet is not sinless, he's an ordinary human being. That means he could cheat, he could deceive, he could steal, and he could lie. If a prophet has the ability to lie, there's a chance that even infallible prophets have the ability to lie, but they don't. But let's say he's not infallible. That means some days he lies, some days he doesn't lie. Now he's claiming to be a prophet. He says, oh people, I'm delivering for you a message from Allah. This is his book. Could this be a lie or can it be a lie? Either a lie or not a lie. It could absolutely be a lie, excuse me. It could be a lie. So how could we trust him? That means that 124,000 prophets, all of them could be liars. If they could be liars, how can we trust them? Definitely. It means they have to be infallible. Logically, Allah swt has to send us someone who is infallible, who never lies, who doesn't cheat, who doesn't deceive, who's not a crook. Otherwise if he lies, how do we know that this is a Quran? Why send a messenger? This is one. Two, the messenger that Allah swt sends tells us don't cheat, don't steal, don't fornicate, don't gamble. If he's not infallible and he does all of these things, he cheats and he tells people don't cheat. He gambles and he tells people don't gamble. He commits adultery and he tells people don't commit adultery. What effect is that going to have? That's going to be meaningless. Definitely. People are going to tell him, Allah swt out of all the people he sent you, a person who gambles, you're telling us not to gamble? You commit adultery and you're telling us not to commit adultery? What effect is that going to have? That's not going to have any effect. Thus logically, Allah swt is always. Definitely. If I want to tell my children don't watch TV. I can't watch TV myself. I'm a normal human being. I'm an ordinary human being. If I want my word to be effective with my children, Definitely. If I want to tell them don't watch TV, I can't watch TV myself. Allah swt that wants people to be good. Shouldn't he send messengers that are good themselves? Definitely. Logical. This is rational proof. This is rational proof. Sayyidina, I would like to mention a verse when we go into a break and come back to the discussion. Allah swt states in chapter 4 verse 80, and whoever obeys the messenger has actually obeyed Allah swt. So we do see an infallible is a leader and we can't have it any other way. But insha'Allah we will continue the discussion after this short break. So respected viewers, do stay tuned with us for you are going to be presented with live footage from inside the Holy Shrine. So to that we'll be back shortly. Allahumma salli ala Muhammad Allahumma salli ala Muhammad Allahumma salli ala Muhammad Allahumma salli ala Muhammad Allahumma salli ala Muhammad Allahumma salli ala Muhammad Allahumma salli ala Muhammad Allahumma salli ala Muhammadin Muhammad I mean, yes, we can, well, we can, but you guys can't actually physically come and visit him here in the Holy Shrine but you can do so spiritually as provided via television, but back to the discussion with my dear guest, Sir Hussain Al-Khazimini, welcome back, how are you Sayyidina? Thank you. Moffaq, insha'Allah. Sayyidina, before the break, we provided some evidences and some proofs from the Holy Qur'an regarding the infallibility of the prophets and what infallibility is and why it is important within the religion of Islam, but Allah Subh'anaHu Wa Ta-A'la states within the Holy Qur'an that Prophet Muhammad, our prophet, the last messenger that Allah sent, is similar to the prophets who came before him and thus according to the verses that you mentioned, we understand that they are infallible. This is where the confusion is raised. What about the verses that say that some prophets sinned, disobeyed, forgot, and sought forgiveness from Allah Subh'anaHu Wa Ta-A'la? I mean, does it not contradict the other verses when we do see prophets being, you know, having sinned or having been sinned? Let's first look at those verses that imply that some of the prophets committed sins and then we'll see, is that what the verses are trying to say or they mean something else? For example, regarding Prophet Adam, one of the verses says And one of the verses says So here he disobeyed, here Allah forgives him He said So if you don't forgive us again For God Regarding Musa, when Prophet Musa, peace be upon him, he saw an Egyptian and an Israeli fighting, the Israeli from his tribe He asked him for help, he went to help the Israeli man, he punched the Egyptian and he killed him It was an accident, it was an accident, it wasn't on purpose So he said The sin that Because if it's a sin, then he oppressed himself Regarding Yunus, peace be upon him How do we explain these verses? Sometimes, you know, we could give a general answer regarding all of these verses We could say that in all of these verses the prophets did not commit sin You see, we have something very, we have logical proof When there's logical proof And there's a verse that contradicts that logical proof We have no choice but to reinterpret the verse You might say, well, that just means you're abandoning the Qur'an You're defining the Qur'an according to how you feel, according to your opinion No, no, this is not how it is There's logical proof, when there's logical proof that means the verse does not want this meaning, the apparent meaning that you think It means something else I'll give you an example If we want to take this verse literally, what does it mean? The hand of God The hand of Allah is above your hands What does this mean? That means that Allah has a physical appearance Has a physical body, has a hand However, because we have logical proof, rational proof that Allah does not have a body Because if he has a body that means he has a space, that means he's limited That means he fills a space, that means he's limited, he can't be God This rational proof helps us reinterpret the verse That it doesn't literally mean the hand of God, it means the authority of God The power of God, because the hand is a symbol of power and authority Same here, these verses, because they contradict a rational proof That means they mean something else, the verse is trying to say something else What? Our scholars say they call it That means the prophets here did not disobey Allah They did not disobey a command from Allah, a direct command, an explicit command Rather, they rejected a recommendation A recommendation was given to them, but it's better for you to do this The prophet did not listen, he decided not to take the recommendation Is that sinning? That's not sinning That's not sinning? No, that's not sinning How is it not sinning? Because it's just a recommendation It's not an enforced recommendation, it's not an obligation It's a recommendation, Allah tells Adam, it's better for you not to eat from the tree Because if you eat from the tree, you'll have to leave paradise Adam decided to eat from the tree, he didn't take this recommendation But wasn't he punished? Adam was punished The punishment, it's a natural consequence That you eat from the tree, you'll have to leave And Adam knew about this consequence, he decided not to take the recommendation So he had to leave Yes, sometimes when you don't take a person's recommendation, you're punished For example, I'm applying for a top university, I'm applying to Harvard My father tells me to get a recommendation letter from that college professor I don't listen, I don't take the recommendation letter I get a decline, I get rejected That's a punishment, because I didn't take the recommendation You see, same thing with Yusuf, same thing with Musa With Musa, it's clear that it wasn't even a sin Because Musa did not even intend on killing that person I oppressed myself, why? Because he got in trouble with the authorities Because he got in trouble with the authorities So, I oppressed myself Help me get out of this situation Allah doesn't go towards Median, leave this city And others Let's not forget that Allah has purposely made some verses ambiguous For people to ponder, for people to think Some verses are ambiguous, they could have several meanings Someone who's naive doesn't have a lot of knowledge, doesn't have in depth knowledge of the Qur'an We'll take it by the cover While the verses have another meaning These verses are meant to be ambiguous Also, another explanation for these verses You see, Sahih, Musa says Adam seeks forgiveness, Musa seeks forgiveness But it doesn't necessarily mean that they've committed a sin If I bump into you in the street, I didn't do it on purpose But do I say I'm sorry? Out of courtesy If you're someone who's polite, you say I'm sorry Even though you didn't do it on purpose If I accidentally drop your phone and I break it I didn't do it on purpose But I'm going to what? Apologize We'll talk about this in a minute A mistake is one thing You see, infallibility is not all on one They're not, infallibility is not on one level And I believe we're going to talk about that in a couple of minutes Musa, peace be upon him Adam, peace be upon him He would forget He forgot And we've already gone to Adam before He forgot He ate from the tree This is possible But he didn't commit a sin Musa didn't commit a sin Sometimes you seek forgiveness for something Out of courtesy Not because you've done something wrong For example, if I'm ill I have back pain Or I'm in a hospital God forbid, anyone is in the hospital Someone comes in and visits you A scholar comes in and visits you Someone respected comes in You can't stand Obviously, you just came out of surgery, for example But what do you tell the guest? Forgive me Forgive me, I can't stand Have you done something to seek forgiveness? No No, but you say it out of courtesy People that are polite, they have manners They'll seek forgiveness And apologize even for the smallest things That's why there's a saying That says There's two people A good deed for this person Is considered a bad deed for the other person It's considered a bad deed for them Let me give you an example If I pray Salatul Layl tonight And I take exactly an hour To pray Salatul Layl For me, that's great For me, and people like me, human beings To pray Salatul Layl in the middle of the night For one hour, that's what? That's an excellent job Yes, but for Rasulullah, Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam To pray for one hour of Salatul Layl That's shameful If Rasulullah were to pray Salatul Layl For only one hour He would seek forgiveness from that Salat He would be ashamed of that Salat He would apologize for that Salat He would pray and then apologize to Allah This is my If my Salatul Layl takes 30 minutes With all the mustahabbat With all the recommended things Slowly prayers Slowly For me, that's great For Imam Ali, he'll be ashamed of such a Salat He'd have to seek forgiveness from such a Salat And apologize You see For us, eating from the tree Might not be a big deal But for Bousa, for Adam, it was a big deal For Bousa to kill someone accidentally Killing someone that's not a big deal It's a big deal taking away his life But it's not a crime But for Bousa, he wanted to seek forgiveness And so on and so forth The prophets, they would seek forgiveness And apologize for the smallest things Even if they're not considered sins Even if it's not a sin They would still apologize So just because he says He's apologizing For something that he shouldn't have done It would have been better I say better It should have been better That you should have done something else But not that he shouldn't have done that whatsoever No, because it wasn't a sin Well, speaking of levels I know you mentioned levels Going back to a point I would like to mention something I quoted just a little bit But I'm not sure I would like to mention something I quoted from a book It says that I don't want to mention the sect or the school of thought But some believe That the prophet is sinless or infallible Only in the delivery of Allah's message Other than that He's a regular person who sins Who commits any shameful act Or whatever But on the other hand We believe otherwise That he's infallible Before his prophethood You know Before he was sent the message To go and build the Orc Or before he started preaching To his nation We see that But every prophet Has his own Domain if you will And his own Nation The word is not on my tongue right now But if you want to talk about The levels of prophets You mentioned that earlier The level of infallibility I know that some prophets We said that They did not sin But they committed a mistake Or they left a recommendation From Allah swt Are those the same as the prophets Who were not mentioned as The ones who actually sinned Or you know Sought forgiveness from Allah swt Are there levels of infallibility From the Quran? First allow me to say That the topic of infallibility It's a controversial topic It is Sunnis and Shiaz They both agree That prophets Have Have a level of infallibility But they disagree on The levels of infallibility Yes Meaning Before they became prophets And after they became prophets They are sinless Small sins or big sins They are sinless In religious matters or in political matters Doesn't matter They are sinless Whether it's in the matter of delivering the message Or something that doesn't Have to do with the message The prophet is infallible In all aspects of his life Even if it doesn't have anything to do With the Rasala With delivering the message And so on and so forth However while Others Believe that no The topic of infallibility Is debated Some of them say that The prophets before being a prophet They were not infallible But once they became prophets They became infallible But they might commit small sins Others say that They're only infallible In delivering the message Meaning they don't lie They deliver the message correctly But they might commit other sins So they're like a parrot Yes They say as they're told But that's about it We believe that no Prophets are sinless from the beginning Before they became prophets And after they became prophets Big sins and small sins Even before becoming a prophet If someone is a liar before becoming a prophet And then all of a sudden he became a prophet He becomes a good person If he lied before, why can't he lie now How could we trust him now That's why Rasulallah He was known as a sadaq Before becoming a prophet That's why when he became a prophet No one could deny He couldn't tell them you're lying He was called a magician A sorcerer But they couldn't tell them you're lying Because they knew you wasn't lying But we could say That infallibility Is not all on one level Infallibility has various levels There is one infallibility The minor The least level of infallibility Is not sinning Not committing sins And doing the things that you have to do Another level of infallibility Is not even thinking about sinning Not even thinking about sinning Another level of infallibility Is not even making mistakes There was one level You couldn't make a mistake A mistake meaning not on purpose But deliberately You'll never commit a sin By mistake, you might commit a mistake There's another level of infallibility In which you don't even make a mistake You don't forget Perfect Perfect human being That top level of infallibility Was for Rasulullah s.a.w He didn't make a mistake He would never forget Perfect human being He would not commit sins He would not even think about committing sins While there are other levels of infallibility For example, the infallibility of Adam It's not compared to the infallibility Of Rasulullah s.a.w Adam did not commit a sin But he did not take the recommendation By Allah s.a.w He would never do that Musa s.a.w He didn't take a recommendation Rasulullah s.a.w would not do that Yousuf, Younis, other prophets That is why Rasulullah s.a.w Is the best of all prophets They're all sinless But being sinless And infallible has Various levels Various levels We have to recognize that We have approximately A couple of minutes left Two minutes left I would like to talk about A related topic to what we're talking about Some people refute the fact That They accept it They might accept that prophets are okay That they are infallible But When it comes to the imams of Ahl al-Bayt Or Ahl al-Bayt in general The 14 maqsul men Are they infallible And precise evidence From the Qur'an if we can be quick We have Ayat al-Tatheer In Surah al-Ahzab Verse 34 I believe The first of all Who are the Ahl al-Bayt The verse is speaking in a male Male pronoun The other verses are speaking about The wives of Rasulullah This section is talking about Ancom Ancom So that means There is men It's common say This is the Ahl al-Bayt Rasulullah Fatima al-Tazara Al-Hassan and Al-Hussain You'dhiba ancom Ritch Ritch is anything impure Improper Spiritually unclean And corrupt Allah wants to purify you And clean you And in case People did not understand the first section And you'dhiba ancom And purify you Purify you from what Were they dirty Were they unclean Purify you from sins And We go back to what we said in the beginning That this This form of purification Is with knowledge Allah SWT Knowledge that others didn't have And this knowledge made them pure This knowledge made them maasum And also For their proof Of the infallibility of the imams Specifically Imam Ali Ayat al-Mubahala Faqul ta'ala Wa anfusana Wa anfusakum Imam Ali is the self of Rasulullah And we said Rasulullah is what Infallible So Imam Ali Has also asked us to be what Infallible Yaayhu alladheen aamanu Ati'u Allah Wa ati'u Rasul O you who believe Obey Allah Obey his messenger And obey ulil amri minkum Those who are in charge Ulil amr Those who are the decision makers We believe these are the imams Of course this verse in itself Requires a debate of its own Huge debate Are asked to obey Allah The messenger and the imams How can the imam not be infallible And we have to obey him Obey someone who is sinful Who sins That means he first has to be infallible Sinless then we obey him Because if he is not infallible What if he orders us To drink Do we still obey him So he has to be perfect He has to be infallible Also we have Hadith of Taqalain I want to introduce you to Taqalain The Book of Allah and my family You don't follow it We are asked to hold on to the Qur'an And to the family Hold on to them together If the Ahlulbayt would commit sins Would the Rasulullah order us To hold on to them And they are equal The Qur'an is sinless The Qur'an is infallible That means the Ahlulbayt has to be perfect If the Qur'an is perfect It doesn't come from his hands So that means the Ahlulbayt Has to be perfect The same way that the Qur'an is perfect Beautiful, very beautiful Thank you very much Sayyidina For 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