 Check it, check it, check it, this is Unique Hust, it's your boy ECO and I'm here man on Boss Talk 101 man, it's A man. We got special guests in the house today, I got California in here, I got Texas in here man, I got my boy Charleston White here, I got my guy Autola Marv in here, I got my guy Melvin Farman in here man, how you guys doing man? Good, good. Man, good to have you man and I know you know the thing I always talk about man is the youth. We've had different situations where like I said Mob James was down, what was that about three months ago? Like in June. In June, yeah, it was in June and it pretty much permeated the waves of the internet. It was Mob James and Charleston White and when everybody seen it, it was a kid's function wasn't it? No, no, he came down here four kids function. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. But we had the podcast the night before. Yeah, I seen that. So yeah, we had the podcast, so we got into it on the podcast at Thursday night, yeah that Thursday night. So the kids was there Friday, Saturday, Sunday, so yeah. Yeah. So and I know having conversations about it now, hindsight, talking to them, I always would say it really was more about the kids, you know what I mean? That's what this whole thing, that's what everything is about. Well, on the surface it seemed like that, but it really wasn't. Okay. Yeah, it really wasn't about the kids. It was really, you know, to address the sentiments, you know, that I've expressed over the internet. Okay. And made public. So it wasn't it wasn't about the kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was supposed to be what it was about. But it ended up not being about the kids is what you're saying. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I wouldn't. Yeah. So and I always and you know me, I go right on back to structure, you know, far as when you I mean, because of where we're at today in society, is it far as gangs go and far as the way that the culture is. Do we want to see change with the youth? Do we want to see children and everybody else detour those things and try to do things in a different way? Well, yeah, when you say do you want to see change? And just like I interjected to you earlier, a lot of them start off thinking about they want to do change. And they want to, you know, you hear ex gang members always talking about we doing it for the kids. No, nigga, you're doing it for yourself. You're trying to get be seen. You change from what your intention was. You get on front of camera. You get to boast and about stuff that you really didn't do. And you really wasn't a part of. You didn't make up this. And so now you just like rappers just hearing stuff. So when it ends up, it don't be about the kids, because it was about the kids. It was about the kids. We wouldn't be in the situations we are with our little. Fragile egos. That's right. If we thought it was a bigger order, it couldn't nothing that could be said to me if I had another intent. But they say before destruction is the ego, you know. And so we start playing on who I am and what I did. And you ain't done nothing. Yeah, yeah. Well, the thing I look at is when I look at like I like I told you when we was in L.A. Well, I alluded to the fact of a lot of people, a lot of kids in the culture in the South after they seen colors or whatever are me being in East Texas, Shreveport was right there. So you was influenced by a lot of those guys moving down there. Is what we this is how we ended up, you know, even knowing about games. Period. You know, we was influenced by movies and stuff like that. But we never really that was not a thing, not mine down here. But at the end of the day, a lot of times you see people portraying that. Now, is there anything that it should there be a deterrent now, you know, far as after you see all the killing that go on. Is this something where we should be saying, hey, man, this ain't the way we should be going with it. Far as gangs. Well, I guess we all say that, you know, we all can say this shouldn't be the way it was. But then again, the portrayal is so prolific that what you're saying is money or the other. So I mean, it's a it's a hard job. Lot couldn't get one. So if you can get one, you didn't done God's world. You know what I'm saying? You didn't done the work, but to think you can save everybody. Can't nobody save everybody? You know, so you have to keep on not talking to talk, but walk to walk. Show it every day. Being I'm in I'm in my hood every day. Yeah, I'm in my park every day as a grown man. I'm I'm not. I told him more of I'm not. Oh, gee, more of them are Mr. Kinsey, I earned that. You feel what I'm saying? I'm not your playmate. I'm not. But I'm trying to just show like damn, bro. You know, we got to I can't tell you to pick up your pants, because if I'm just worried about your pants, if I ain't trying to get your head there, well, you're wearing how you wearing it. You feel what I'm saying? So we have to get a concept together as a unit. Who we trying to really say? Yeah, because, you know, and I know, like when you look at like different sections in Texas where people are portraying, hey, man, I'm in the game or whatever, it is happening. It happens even now today, you know. California gangbanging outside of California is a is a is a is a different animal. Correct. California and Chicago is its own animals. One's a lion. One's a bear or anything outside of those lines. It's not it ain't concrete. Outside of California, you can you can go be granddaddy. You can kill niggas when you 14, you can kill niggas in your 20s. You can kill niggas in your 30s. And when you get 45, you can go to community college. And and and and and you can go to your son's football game in Mansfield. You can go to his game in West Dallas. Niggas in California don't have that luxury. So when I moved to California, I saw niggas can't retire out the game. Well, these niggas, 60 years old, 50 years old, they still at the park. Well, they had to park through election homing. It ain't it's not that they can't get out the game. If some people are so stuck, I did time. I got out of prison. I went to college. I had a whole life been out of prison. Twenty six years, but that's that's the observation I made. That's my qualitative study, right? That's what I went to California to study. I didn't I didn't go to party. I didn't go to get high. I went to study and I walked the streets every day. So I went where everybody told me not to go. So I know what I was looking at. I know what I was looking at. Them niggas stuck. It ain't a lot of opportunities afforded to them as it is out here. So a lot of this is the land of opportunity out here. This is a felony friendly environment. You can get a job at Lockheed Martin and make missiles for the military with a felony out here. They ain't got that luxury in California. The trucking industry don't boom in California like it does here. The all fields, they don't get to work in the plants. They don't get to twit cars. They ain't out there on the on the dock. So I saw that on me. I saw that. So I got involved through community, seeing this guy, working with this guy. So I was taking notes. I saw that it ain't no black unity nowhere in California. I saw that a preacher can't even speak out against this stuff. So I saw that that's a different animal. Those black people are suffering way different than us. Wow. Let me say about that. How me and Charleston met and he can correct me if I'm wrong. Through the Internet, the proper use. He see me and he came to St. Andrew's Park. Straw hat cowboy boots and overalls. And he said, Melvin, I watch you on the Internet. I come to meet you and to learn this culture. And it wasn't like I'm got gave him the key. He learned from just hanging with me. Yeah. He got to go to see Nipsey Hustlefumero. He got to go to L.A. Gangs Unite. One time he called me. He was on what, Imperial in Vermont, almost for the gig kill. And I had a member in the Denver Lanes neighborhood. And I had to tell him how to get up out of there and teach him. So I was mentoring him. And the first thing he said out his mouth, he said, Melvin. There is no retirement for you. Wow. He recognized that because you still got bullets flying. And, you know, these parks are in L.A. on the West Side. I'm speaking on the West Side. You always say. And then also at that time, everybody embraced this man. So I don't know how we at this position now. Yeah. But everybody, he got to meet everybody. Everybody. Everybody, so we embraced him through you, through not only me, because he knew he. Copachino, yeah, Michael, Mike, Ray, Anna. I migrated. I migrated out. So the people that I was in California with, they didn't have no gang affiliation. These was good working people, and they didn't want me as St. Andrews Park. They was terrified that I was with Melvin, right? Because they know California. They know that at any given time, man, kids was dying at St. Andrew's Park. So I was going up there when people were still getting shot at, right? But I'm there to learn. Nigga, I'm on a journey. Wow. You see what I'm saying? So, man, I'm Ubering. Girl, I'm getting dropped off and sometimes he ain't there. Wow. You see what I'm saying? So sometimes I'm Ubering back and it's late. I got left to the 60s neighborhood. Didn't nobody know me. I'm here and Nigga say, say, "'Cause who was on me there? "'Cause, oh, that's Skull, pardon me." Man, where Skull at? But he knew who he left me with. I don't know. Wow. But I trust him because he's been kind of father figure, uncle like to me while I'm in California. Nigga, I don't know nobody. But I'm entrenched in street culture. So I got to learn this shit on me. This is the shit. Nigga's where I'm from and killed and died for. And I'm on Hoover Street. I get to walk down Hoover Street. I get to go to Grape Street. I get to go to all these different places that niggas from my city will never go to. So, nigga, I got to come back here and teach these niggas. Say, homie, fuck that Crippin' Blood shit, nigga. That's them nigga shit. You can't go up there and claim that shit. Niggas will kill you up there talking about what you were you from, nigga. Leave them nigga shit alone. That's California game. So what I did, I always sat California over here. I never, cause they the originals and the founders. So I never spoke on them. Nigga, I learned that from him. Everything past them is emulating and imitating. They really faking. Yeah, yeah. So I'm telling everybody back in my town, nigga, fuck that Crippin' Blood shit, nigga. Fuck you cry bad, nigga. I'm getting big on the internet. California niggas hearing this language, me talk to these local crips. Wow. I went to the funeral trying to figure out, man, what the fuck everybody crazy about this nipsy hustle, nigga, fuck. Nigga, he ain't played on our songs down here. So I'm watching my city, Dallas, Fort Worth, throw this celebration for this nipsy guy. And nigga, we got niggas do what he do here. Fuck, we celebrating that nigga fuck. So may everything say, hey man, I'm going to the funeral, you wanna go? So I go to the funeral trying to figure out who the fuck is nipsy hustle and why this nigga being celebrated. So when I met the funeral, they smoking weed. They playing his album, which is cussing, bitch this, fuck this. So nigga, I'm fucked up. This ain't Southern shit. Yeah, we don't do shit. No, man, this is a dead body. But because I'm with the rolling 60s, I get to sit counter to the family. So I'm looking at all these motherfuckers smoke weed, include myself. Smoking weed in this motherfuckers, we don't do this down south. Weed are for nipsy. I started listening to them people speak of earmests. The mother, the father, the girlfriend, the little boy. The little boy said, last night, earmests came to me in a dream. It blew me away. I put the weed out. Wow. No, man. And when we walked by, I'm looking at the family. They mourning earmests. We bullshitting for nipsy. Wow. So I can easily say, fuck that character. So I get left in the 60s neighborhood. Nigga, this is a melee. Can't nobody get through. The Uber can't get through. Nothing. I'm there until like 10, 11, 12 o'clock at night. How the fuck I'm gonna get back home? And I can't say this, but Skull left a bag. Say, Skull, Skull, tell me get the bag. Them niggas ain't gonna let me get that bag. They got that bag and took it to Skull. But I'm still there with the 60s. So this big old nigga right here up, can barely walk, ankles bad, knees bad. Look mean in the motherfucker. Say, say, big homie, you think you can give me a ride to the house? Big sight. He ain't said two words in all day long. Yeah, I get your ride. Where you at? So I tell him where I'm at. That's a danger zone. So as we riding home, Skull tell me, I remember when Nip was about 11 years old, he came up to me and said, Big homie, can I ask you something? And he said, yeah, why you gang bang? He said, this was the 11 year old, 12 year old kid ask him. That ain't Nip. That's Eremus. Just an inquisitive kid. I got that from the funeral. He was very inquisitive. So he telling my gang bang, cause I was born to say, Big homie, when I grew up, I'm gonna take care of the hood. That was Eremus that had that desire. Nip didn't do that. Nip was a gang bang and rolling 60 that a killer, eight trade gangster, Crip that a shooter hoover. So I don't honor the characters. Same with monster Cody. I read the book, monster Cody as a kid. Nigga, that's where I got my gang knowledge from. That book, Miss Pumple, a juvenile worker, gave me that book. Nigga sat in isolation and read that book. Nigga, when I came out, I became the leader. Cause them niggas didn't have the knowledge. They didn't know nothing about Hoover Joe and none of that other kind of shit. So when I grew up, I started learning that he changed his name to Shakua. Cody Scott and monster Cody ain't the same people, but they go worship monster. Wow. So I say, nigga, fuck these characters. Whoever Buntry is, what do his mama call him? What do his kids call him? Nigga, don't give me these street names, these bullshit characters that can't stand before God, nigga. Can't stand before God, nigga. So I assassinate the characters because he who controls images controls mind. These bullshit images, nigga. Wow. Nipsey wasn't in heaven that little boy said. He said, Irmins. So I don't speak on Irmins. I don't speak on Cody. But nigga, whatever them names is that hip hop gave us, nigga, I assassinate them because our kids worship their motherfuckers. This is a generation of idol worshipers, nigga. So I assassinate the idols. Don't fuck what I say, nigga, look what I do. So that's why I say any motherfucking thing. And I've heard you say that. Yeah, yeah, I say any motherfucking thing, huh? Yeah, yeah, I say any motherfucking thing. The internet is something. Yeah, I'm a shock jock. Yeah, yeah, I'm a shock jock. Nigga ain't got no business listening to me, no way. And I'm willing to die. I'm willing to die, kill and go to jail by what I come out of my mouth. Wow. So when you think about the character versus the individual, far as the way the mother brings this child to her image when she's dealing with it, do you, I mean, do you guys see the difference or do y'all feel like it's the same? First, let me start by saying this. And it ain't gonna be nobody but us about this shock jocks, kill us. Whoever the fuck run in their mouth. I represent LA at this crypt ship. I don't give a fuck about a character, but I care about a person's legacy. Don't no nigga disrespect Nipsey Hussle, monster Cody, Turkey, Raymond Washington nigga. It's tried by 12 or carried by six anywhere, anytime. They characters to me, man. Well, I ain't talking about who nobody else opinion. I don't, I don't, I don't disrespect them though. No, no, no, no. I don't disrespect them skull. You said this in front of me and I don't disrespect it. No, no, no, no. And I just said, I was a shock jock. So nigga, at any given time, my nigga, if I feel the need to speak on something, it ain't a man alive that can muzzle this mouth. A fucker muzzle mouth. I'm willing to die, kill and go to jail by what I speak on. Let's see how you're like. Yeah, you're lying to me. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. That's why I talk so boldly. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold up, hold up. No, that's why I talk so boldly. I forget it. But see, no, man, that's why I talk so boldly. I ain't scared to die. I ain't scared to kill no nigga, neither my middle nigga. That ain't what we're here for you. I ain't arguing. I'm not, cause I'm not doing no motherfucking talking on me butting. No, man, no, man, listen nigga, I ain't talking. I ain't got to justify my words. I ain't got to justify my words. I ain't telling you I'm motherfucking to you. I ain't got to justify my words. No, no, no, no, no, check this out. I ain't got to justify my words. I ain't got to justify my words to nobody, my nigga. I don't say it without a say it. So whatever consequences that come with what I don't say it, I'm willing to accept whatever consequences we accept. I'm willing to accept whatever consequences. We in, bro, this is my platform. And I come in low, but I didn't interrupt. Nobody, and I'm gonna finish. But I come in low. But listen, but listen, but we heard talking about what our things, I done said. No, I'm not talking about none of that. I'm talking about. Well, y'all can talk without me then. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't talk about it. No, I didn't like it. Bro, I done drove too far away. No, no, no, we ain't talking, we can't talk about it. No, I ain't got to justify motherfucking thing what I done said, my nigga, I done said it. And now, no, I don't, I ain't got to do it, bro. I done drove too far from this motherfucking thing. Got me fucked up, man. Hey, well, we here. Well, y'all talk. We here. Y'all going to talk without me. California is here, nigga, that's what we meant. We got to do better, man. No, we ain't doing better because this how this game goes. When he talked, we didn't say a word. He can't lead in the conversation. You can't have it one-sided. You can't do that in front of us, bro. That's the pinto, it's that. Don't, you ain't disrespecting other people and kids. But we got to do better, man. No, no, no, you still, it ain't that. See, but I'm saying a platform. Yeah, but I mean, bro, I can't do all the talking in front of us. Okay, but I agree with him, that's what I know. I agree with what he said about a character. Am I right? Yeah, you agree with it. I agree with what he said about a character, man. The character I agree. But don't stand up in front of us. Yeah, it can't go like that. But son, let me talk to you, bro. Man, let me talk to you, bro. I ain't tripping. But let me, let me, let's clear it up, man, for a while. Because we can't leave it like that. It ain't going to be clear, bro. It ain't no, no, no, no, no. We're not here when you sit and think you can talk. I ain't cared about the character, he's right. But when you talk about dead, dead. But we never got to do that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's why I brought you up. But you said, hold up, hold up, hold up. That's why I wanted to talk to brother before we got on the air. Right. And explain to him my view. I saw his, but okay, but I'm just saying, when it came to what he's saying, it's certain things, I agree with him what he's saying about, who in the heck, about the. Yeah, y'all, we shouldn't, we couldn't do it like that. Yeah, but I'm saying.