 Hello, hello, hello. This is my resting spot. Stop at the farm. Got a few vegetables you want to see. I would love to. What do you got? Some radish soup. Got beautiful onions. Got some squash. Yum. Alright, now let me show you the place. Yeah. Are you videotaping? I am. How do you know? Stop. Here it is. Four corners of the earth. Splat and Delhi. They do Sunday. Alright, well let me wash my hands. Look at the mess online. That's a project. Alright, so we're going to slice a whole lot of onion. What? We'll sharpen the knife. See my array of sharpening tools. That sounds good. I'm sure that sounds good in the headphones. And you want to talk while you chop onions? Yes. Awesome. We've got a question for you. I have a few, just a few. If you can skip any. So we're here for my show being in Burlington. I told you about it a little bit the other day. Pretty self-explanatory title. Do you have any questions for me before we start? How long and how much? We'll be out of here by four. Our time is free. Yes, yes. Okay, so tell me about how four corners came to be. What's its origin story? Oh, you're going right to the beginning. I'm going right to the beginning. You're going right for the gutter. Or what they call it? Right for the throat. Yeah. Well, I guess it was meant to be. Meaning I was cut into one day. And I was on four corners a couple of days later. I mean, it all comes to sharpening your tools and precision cutting, I guess. Okay. I saw an ad in seven days. Not seven days. Burlington Free Press. Jump in my truck, throw down here, butt it on the spot. You don't speculate. Nowadays, they would back and draw all kinds of graphs. And they would pull it down. And they would pull all kinds of analytics. That way, if you do it the way they do it nowadays, you'll never experience love. Business wise? Like if you do a business, how they do it, that's fair. Well, everybody is doing everything as a business. Yeah. Always a lot of statistics, analytics, feedbacks. And a lot of, there's a lot of other people who are actually working hard and not making much money at all. I heard about that. You bought it right on the spot? Yes. No questions asked? No questions asked. Do you need to see any records? And mind you, it wasn't what it is now. It was just a dirty hole in a wall. I mean, the place was filthy. Because Red onion got started here. Now you're getting the first dips on everything. That was going to be in my book. It can be the introduction to your book. So Red onion got started here. Then they moved up town. And then they were hiring beautiful people like you college kids and they just run this thing down into the field and nothing. And then eventually they sold it to the guy. Actually a real chef trained from Belgium. But he didn't have the whatever. He had other business ideas. So he didn't do anything to it. But he did bring the flat Cuban grills up from Miami. So he opened the door for me. Without these grills they'd be no for corners. I want to tell you a little bit about this story. Because dog nap comes on a scene then. Got to save some of it for the book. Do the onions not burn your eyes at all? Or are you just used to it? I will tell you one thing. America's got a lot of downfalls but they do have the best onion in the world. It's making my eyes water. No, but America's got the best onion in the world. And so maybe I am somewhat used to it. But they're not as punchy as onions normally are, right? Yeah. So I had an apprentice who was thinking maybe interested in the idea of buying performance. And I had him slice onion. And he was kind of slicing it. Kind of like any which way. I mean not like totally any which way but he wasn't like concerned with. And I tried to correct him. He was like, you mean people would mind if it's cut a little bit like this, a little bit like that? You know, it's just like that attitude. If people that make Rolex watch, everything is just so, right? Because if it's every which way, then it's not a Rolex. It is what it is. I'm going to chop it in again. Cutting vegetables is an art. Well, sort of. But you have to have the right steel for the right. How the paper towels. I think it should be like a few hours. So you got the very beginning of it. It was May. So I guess it was like a spring and a full bloom. And all this happened in 2000. Yeah, it's a long time. Oh yeah? We have something in common. Four Corners and I were born in the same year. Four Corners is a Scorpio. Not a Scorpio. Year of the Dragon. Scorpio would be the month. I was born in the year of the Force. So what else is there to know, you think? How has it changed since you started it in 2000? Or has it not? Has it really captured its core? Every year I added maybe one sandwich every year, something like that. I've since taken some down. Because it's too many options. People are already confused as it is. So why bother? Meaning we just make it harder for people. Even if somebody eats here every day, they still plan to choose from. I mean at least 40. And some on this side, some up here that's not even listed. There's one guy, Steve. I mean since he's got married and has a beautiful daughter. So he doesn't come in as much. They still do. At least a couple of times a year. Maybe more and they get three or four or five sandwiches. But when he was single, when I started, well it was a little bit already into it. He was here just about every day. And he was getting at least two, sometimes three sandwiches. He's got the record for like quite a few years. Three or five years he did that. At least three times a week. I used to be open every day. 100 hours a week. But then I got older and my lower back can't handle it anymore. So I had to... I realized, you know, you work hard. You maybe make extra $500. And then you're going to see doctors and acupuncture and whatever. And whatever you got more, you give it to them. So what's the sense? But as I was going through the process of getting better, you know, I went to the physical therapy. I learned one thing there. It was like indirectly. I learned it on my own common sense. And then I went to a guy that was doing, like, something like a spiritual thing. They don't touch you, but they have. I didn't see what he was doing because I was lying down. But he was like, I could hear him like, you know... Is it Reiki? Reiki? Maybe something like it. I think he told me where it was, where it was different. So I learned something from him. At some point, you know, lots of firsts. And that's when I immediately closed down for two days. Lots of firsts. And then I went to an acupuncturist, Julia. She's really good at it. So she kind of put the final touches, put me back together. But my little back was killing me just because I was overworked here. And how many hours do you work a day? Oh, I'm down to, like, around 70, sometimes a little more, sometimes maybe a couple of hours less. For Louis? Yeah. Still quite a lot of hours. Well... But what else would I rather do? You know, now that I'm a little older, this is the best place on earth. This is where the most fun is. For me anyway. So I was just thinking, you know, I got this sailboat and I'm not going to bother putting it on the water this year. But it's a hassle, you know. You've got to deal with this guy who runs the place, but he doesn't care to run it. He's got other things in his life that he's doing, but he's doing it for money or whatever it is. And everything is rickety-dickety. And you ask him to do something for you and it's a pain in the ass. And then, okay, he finally puts the boat on the water. Then you have to worry what's going to go wrong with it. It's just a hassle, over a hassle, over a hassle. Here I come, everything is routine. Everything is just the way I design it and whatever. I don't know. It's just a hard time. You go to a concert or a festival. You have to drive there. You have to deal with everything. They're going to push band on you. They're going to mark you. They're going to... I mean... There are all kinds of people I talk to all day long. You've got to enjoy that. If you don't, then it's not a profession for you, I guess. You've got to like talking to people and hearing them as well, I guess. As opposed to working for money, what keeps you going? Like those conversations? Probably. I mean, you know, it's alchemy. I like experimenting. I do that every day with anything. Oh, I just made this. It's a traditional dish where I grew up. Oh. I'll have you try it. What is it? What do we call it? Hrenjouka. It's pizza, horseradish. And then I... That's the basics people do, but then, you know, I put a little truffle oil, put a little fresh garlic. I don't know, maybe it's not for you, but I feel like it's very delicious. Do you want to try some? I'll give you a glass. It smells good. Should we take a video of us trying it? Yeah, sure. Now you're going to have to like it. I guess so. I'll see whether that's something for you. It's the first thing you do in the spring because horseradish, when it just comes to being, it's like the first thing that starts coming out of earth. Yeah, I like it. And it's good. It's colorful. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's just, you know, it's just the alchemy that I kind of... flavors it's like. The horseradish makes it spicy. You know how people play music by here? That's how I do flavors. It's like, I don't need the nose, I don't need the recipes kind of. No, I really like it. I don't usually like beads either. Well, that'll help you out. Put some iron in here. Wait, where is this dish from? Well, people probably in Ukraine might be doing it in Russia, maybe in... But I grew up in what they call Slovakia. Yeah, half Slovakia and half India. Half Slovakia and half what? India. My mom's Slovakia and my dad's India. Oh, yeah? Where is that? Not around here, right here? No, she grew up in India. Her education, she did it in India. Okay, so her parents were ambassadors or something? No. They remember they were young. Oh, we're gonna have to do that. She can soup. Oh, it's not with this world. But you're just gonna have to tell her how the way it is. Well... So, what else is there? What made you choose sandwiches? What made you choose sandwiches? Well... As I said, you know, it all kind of just happened in its own volition. I was just the media or whatever, you know. So it's not like I was sitting down and drawing graphs and making projections and figuring things out. I just kind of winged it from from the hip. I was shooting from the hip and I still am. You know, I'm not a fan of how the world got to be but it's silly, convalescent. Everything premeditated. Oh, my God. Who wants to live that way? The people are stressed. Yeah, who wants to live that way? I do get... I get depressed about it. I do. I need to get out of the medication, I feel. Where would you go on vacation? On vacation. Just like the rest of you. I was like, that sounds nice. Oh, vacation. I am going to have to go but I have a friend and she is in Russia so things are a little more complicated. Yeah. She can't go to Europe but like the Arab countries we think about Oman maybe. One friend of mine talked it up went there and loved it so I don't know. So we have to find a neutral place I mean, she can go to Thailand but man, I don't know this goddamn world 48 hours to get to Thailand from Boston or New York. What the fuck? Two days. What the fuck, each way? Oh, fuck. Four days of flying. It takes two days to get to India. It's like three flights, it's bad. Why? But even if it was, I just don't have the computing power and everything they have how can they not figure it out a little better? But maybe the strategy is to discourage people from traveling. So we are going to have to figure out where we go. Last trip I went was Istanbul. Oh, did you like it? I liked it all right. I guess we had good times. I have some family there. Yeah. It's a peculiar little town. I have a little bit of luck with restaurants. Yeah. We were there for two weeks. Our Airbnb pictures aren't right, you know. So they were a-okay, but they were a little bit disappointing. Yeah. But the price was right, I guess. Whatever, $70 a day or something. Yeah, that's not bad. Yeah, I have family there. Was the life changing? No, no. It's unfortunate. And actually, you know, on the main strip where all the tourists go, the food is terrible. I mean, it looks like when you see it, you're like, oh, wow, I want it all. But then it's just- and then one day it's theirs and then for the next day they mix things up and it's something else. What dish were you most looking forward to in Turkey? That's a direct question. Eh. I wasn't any kind of dish. I was going to try the kebab, the street. You got it. Again. So there was like a popular place. The kebab was delicious. They had a wheel, you know, this duck, like, I don't know, one ton of meat. Yeah. The goddamn guy, he was giving me three slivers of meat into my bone. I'm like, give me a double. Still nothing in my bone. I'm like, come on. Not even a meal. That was disappointing again, you know. They were so stingy. I couldn't believe it. Tourism is always like that, I feel like. So, but we did find some, but we had to go way out of our way to find. And we found some where we stayed like a bakery. We actually have pretty good videos from it. It was like Myers Bagel. The guy looked like the guy. They were honest. They were doing like a real, you know, it was like a little pizzas, whatever they call it. It was like a ship. It wasn't round. It was just like, you know, like a ship. And it had like pizza, had cheese and some vegetables. They had wood fire down in. Man, they work hard all day there. And it was only $2. Wow. And for one person, that was plenty. So you did find at least one good place. I found a few. Yeah. On top of the bazaar, somebody took me off from here that there is a place like that. So that was like, you know, five star, the service and everything was impeccable. It was like what they do at the Windsor or whatever palace. You know, a few traditional meals there. Everything was just perfect. So that was those experience. That sounds really good. You know, the waitress are, that's like their career. They're like 30, 35, 40 years old. They all clean. They all got their outfit. They all charmers. You know, it's like It's a real deal. It was a real deal. You mentioned when I was here the other day that running Four Corners is really a labor of love. Food made with love. In your opinion. Laughter. Laughter? Well, what is worth more? Somebody getting out of their way telling you that they enjoy themselves because of what you did for them or you running to the bank with a thousand dollars, I don't know. You know. Good answer. Am I going to pass? What? Yes. It's not a test. Don't worry. Also, the nice thing about editing is that you pick out the best pieces. Uh-huh. So you're going to be chop chop chopping? Yeah, I'm going to have to. I don't have to chop it too much though. Yeah, just like maybe 95 percent of it. We are like 30 seconds old. What's the value of food and cultural influences in that intertwining of food and culture? Well, I'll tell you a story again. Okay. You know, it's not even so well how you go about it. Meaning, usually the cultural, ethnic food you're looking for and it is in many people's judgment good food. It's good because they don't have generation immigrants. They don't know any better. They don't have any opportunities to speak of sort of they don't know people. So they are doing this and so they kind of doing what they're doing and they're not speculating like although I don't know some Asian places I think they buy very cheap foods to sell you cheap. So I would never eat in those places but so what is good about ethnic well, the idea is for food to be made with love and care. You know, when we grow up like a self-sufficient community it wasn't political, it wasn't it's just the way people live. There wasn't propaganda, it's just the way people live. So people grow most of what they ate so like self-sufficient farming community, almost like the Amish people without the religious or whatever the political edge. So I would travel back home. That is my mom. That's her portrait. I'll have to get a close-up of that one before. So when I come from here you know sophisticated, I went to you here I traveled a little bit but she never traveled much anywhere. She was I asked her to come here and she was what am I going to do there? I said mom, you're going to see architecture architecture. She says well, I see it here people, architecture, I see it here why would I go to America to see it? And I was like mom, come on but you know, now that I got older it kind of makes sense. You know why traveling now? I don't know it's like a factual truth. I feel it is but I'm going to just I don't even know what I should say but back in the day most Europeans were forbidden to travel. I think mostly just people from Israel were allowed to travel and everybody else was a slave of a sword and so if you wanted to even go to the village next door whoever was your lord you had to ask for permission I mean through like middle ages and up to like 18th century I think that how things were so the travel thing is like this ultimate sense of you know right, you can travel because people weren't allowed to travel so why was I telling you that we were talking about yeah so my mom so I come from here and I said mom you don't even know but we were eating so well everything was organic and my mom says my ass organic if I didn't put a fertilizer nothing would grow but you know why it was good quality and why it had like positive effect on people maybe because everybody there is tall at least 6 foot I don't know maybe it's just genetic or whatever it was planted grown and harvested with love and care all by hand no machines no throwing around today I was picking up these avocados they like so green and I'm just imagining how they harvested like the machine sort of they went through the belt like tumbling down somebody throw it there somebody throw it there you know like when you see some like on instagram or tiktok how they throw the luggage in the airport hopefully not with love and care so the same happens with fruits and vegetables because they traveling from who knows where and they've been transferring it so many times and so we go to the supermarket I walk in and everything that cross on it everything is like poised accept here and there exception I did buy this apple and today I bought some peaches they look alright but I guess from Pennsylvania do you usually try to buy vegetables and produce from local farms that's not my political edge but I just I mean most people probably don't even know how to tell what's good quality I have a knack for it so I so I can I couldn't even explain to you how but it's you know how it shines how it looks how it feels when I pick it up you know it's a so so there you go local and organic yeah my ass I didn't put the photo how old is she when she said that oh she was like almost oh my goodness she had a lot of spirit in her yeah yeah yeah she was up on her feet until just couple of months before she had to go I had a discussion with my friend on the phone last night I said he was up to me I cut everybody off at 80 80 and you're going it's a good life and he couldn't agree with me he couldn't agree with me I don't know would you agree with that they would be like a national policy I don't know if we could do a national policy but I think 80 is a good life yeah what do you what do you have to gain after 80 a lot of sleep maybe that's what I'd be looking for with you you know I was telling him you know it's like if you'd like person that it's into pennies and they have all these pennies but they worth nothing they can't buy nothing with it but they have all these pennies that they love so that's what the life is after 80 I feel haven't got there yet you know I've seen things around and what not but whatever some people will get offended what I'm saying maybe you shouldn't put in the movie I don't know we'll see how it comes off on camera I don't know why Burlington what draws you to the community no graphs when I first got here nobody in Burlington knew what the word community meant what about now well now everybody's throwing it around but still I don't think they do it it's just like the word love everybody throws it around how do you see community then well I'm not good at it the only community I have you and I over the counter I count this community I feel like you have a little four corners community too we do yeah yeah yeah it's just yeah well communities where people take care of each other I don't know I'm not gonna speak to the local here but say the American politician each one of them has a fake smile there's nothing real about it they all will tell you how much they care and they all will smile but they are some so whatever whatever works if we do have some form of community here four corners adds to it if we do have some what community if we do have some form of community what do you think four corners brings to it contributes to it it's a place of respite people can come and enjoy the flavors relax the humming of the coolers you hear it sort of kind of puts you in a meditative I see many times people close their eyes and just sort of hang out just kind of taking a deep somebody suggested I do a video on youtube which would be just it wouldn't be the video just the sound what they call that podcast? there's abbreviation for like rpm or rmp vpr? no it's just so it would record all the sounds yeah somebody suggested I actually love ASMR so I probably should get on it and get it up online would you know how to do it you would go up on tiktok you would probably go up on tiktok oh I brought on the card for you for cctv if you did want to make a show there in their studio that's the person in contact I feel like I should but there's an email too there's an email on there of the best person to contact about you in the studio they could help you get a tv show started I know you're interested in doing the talk show yeah I think it would be nice yeah well now you have to contact if you ever find time alright it's a nice person it's a community oriented person very good it's very nice so how does this at the community I mean it's like say somewhere by Boston there's this place that's like the place people go out of their way to go to it it's a fish place but you go in it's like a jail it's got these nondescript piles up the wall like up to here and everywhere it's just when I was there I felt like I just entered the jail what is it it's like north off so you get on route 1 is it like a legal seafood maybe it's and even the food wasn't that it was a lot of deep fried whatever and the way they served it was just like like a jail cafeteria I'm not kidding it's probably expensive too probably so how do you go to that place compared to here I mean this is my home away from home meaning if I do go home I only go home to sleep that's about it so the rest of my life I spend here so it kind of I definitely spend enough time here I think 70 hours it's very adequate do you prefer lotto stuff or lotso lots of it's just rows of the tongue lots of love there is some Americans that come in they do take the time and they pronounce it properly it's interesting and they sell a lot of this love even for me it's hard to say do you like when people call you a lot of stuff I guess not too many people do but I guess I do maybe I should have stick with it the name is lotto stuff a little name tag everybody asks how you pronounce it and then I double guess myself is am I pronounced it right it's your name you can pronounce it however you want I promise who is lotto like how do you define yourself how do you see yourself I know that's the big one I see myself as a slave I see myself as a slave a good one nothing else I got a lot of ideas just don't have the outlet for them but I guess that the talk show might be one like design and like flavors nuances in the books when I read this morning you know I wrote this I don't one of the first historians to see this in Herodotus and he writes a lot about Egypt the customs and stories what people did and how they did it like today they were saying that the guy could serve you water sitting down by the woman if she served you water she had to stand up but a lot of interesting information so I like that and then I connected that and I have my own taken life I listen to a lot of Russian news lately has it been uplifting at all? it's a it's a blast everybody's guilty not just one but yeah but I feel like they have the more insightful information about what's going on the western media man let's keep politics and journalism separate these are the last time I was here too that's my take on it because it's awful the journalism all it is although Russian I guess too because now Russia is very nationalistic because you know they the shit is serious so the west has built up Rome hasn't gone out of business is right now in Washington DC and so they've been building this empire for the last at least 5,000 years since they wrote the Old Testament and now Russia is challenging that's a serious business man it's a mess that's a serious business so and man I don't know that nuclear man that can go off any day and then I don't know scary I don't know if it's scary it'll be just over I guess that's true it'll be just over is that your philosophy on death just over no I'm what is scary to me is that maybe you'll live forever that's scary to me too I don't want to live forever I'm done this and this is it I didn't have kids for it I don't want to keep on living with Earth and everything I don't even want to be a stone no stone like nothing but it's almost impossible once you exist how are you going to know how to exist so I'm a little kind of intimidated by that I think most people are intimidated by death at least a little bit not death by that but by the idea of living forever that they kind of keep reusing you yeah just a few more questions let's see so that's how you see and define yourself how do you think other people see you do you have any idea I have a lot of people there is plenty written on that's true on Yelp and etc but you know what I won't love that chicken soup for a good night oh yeah you see how it wiggles that's a real soup you see how it wiggles yeah it doesn't pour it wiggles so I'll give you a leg of chicken sure you want it well maybe something without a bone might be easier for occasions like this tell me about your decor here where did it all come from it all started with dog nap and then I went then I can't stop myself after that well because I'm thinking it's my photo one okay let's see what they think of your performance let's get them here who is it well they going around so I guess they know how it's done I guess so what do you most want people in Burlington and in the surrounding area to know about you and to know about your performance let's try what it smells so good anything else you wanted to add or anything else you want to be said Burlington to know purpose anything anything I didn't ask about you want to talk about stuff like that you know the nature of the beast is such that everything is made custom to order so it takes time getting help people that just have a little hole in their life that they need to patch for a month or two or a half a year been there done it don't need it so the thing cannot really be you know what the bad news is what America just going to get a whole lot of worse you know I can't see it getting any better right now because it's simple because you and your friend here and I'm saying you not to be personal but you represent the generation and the generation after you well this cellphone it's the worst thing ever for humanity it fucks people up people spending a lot of time on it without spending the time with each other or whatever and so nobody is interested in any kind of like a way or a way well I think this what's really going to happen at the end that the reality is going to have dramatically to change because nobody wants to contribute to this reality nobody wants to work I wouldn't have to work 7 hours once if the price was right the price is cheap but everybody thinks it's expensive and so if you hire help where is the money coming from so maybe the government should be paying for the help I don't know but then who is going to be the help you know but it has interest in this kind of work well there is this you have to sweep you have to clean people don't even clean their room what they are going to clean here for so all said and done we are going to end up on the mainframe we are not going to have genitals we are not going to have to worry about that all kinds of things we have clothes we are not going to have to eat we are not going to have dishes you know I mean it will be clean so all you have to do just like playing computer games that is not going to clean there will be sods and I will have to eat well they will figure out so I guess they will narrow your essential experience so when you I mean you are not going to be even born you will be on the mainframe so you are not going to have the body you have now I guess if I wasn't born I wouldn't worry no but I mean you will exist but you are not going to be born you are not going to have the body you have now so you just might need some electricity or whatever that is going to be you know what I am saying I know last time I was here and all that will come because people have no appreciation for this reality they kind of they are okay with the reality the reality is not going to exist and people are not going to be contributing to it somebody has got to fix the road somebody has to fix the cars somebody has to make it you know what I am saying all this shit that America built up now just in a little bit of time there will be not enough people to take care of it and everything will start falling apart he will be oh my god good luck I don't want to have to deal with all of it because you are not going to be on the frame yet I don't think not your generation but I think that is the ultimate dream colors and who knows what else right now we came and conceived of all the experiences you are going to have without feelings without feelings though just intellectual so one of the reasons I came to America was because I was intellectually starved now I am here intellectually saturated but I am either one or the other it seems like you can't have it both ways I wish you could well I don't know Americans maybe they do it is just that I don't know if you didn't grow up here the older I get the more separate I feel so what are you going to do make sandwiches more of them 7 more years if I have to how many sandwiches do you think you have made probably like 10 million probably well by the time I am done I probably have made a sandwich for everyone I fed the whole day it is a decent goal you know like truckers they do million miles so maybe not quite million but the population keeps growing so maybe they outgrow me and I I won't be able to make a sandwich for everyone I hope not I mean I hope it doesn't outgrow the ability well I was popular I was buying something and I went to Bristol and there was a real estate I had a little bit of time to kill so I was real estate agency window with some postings man for a shithole, for a house that is like a rebuild you know you have to they won half a million dollars all the money the housing in Vermont right now is insane right so you buy for half a million then you have to put another half a million to have it the way you like it like where do people get the money from how is that done I met someone today who lived in my current apartment 40 years ago and her rent was a fourth of what I pay now oh wow so they probably won 1200 it's I think it's 3000 for my apartment but there's four of us it's 800 a month which is I don't have a large budget my friend lives in a two bedroom apartment and is paying 1070 oh my god so that's a deal like this tiny kitchen so he's paying 1100 yeah 1170 1070 actually yeah so 1100 that's not the worst for two bedrooms no no that's her rent oh that's her rent oh that's her they share oh I got you yeah yeah yeah yeah half of that would be unheard of for a long time now yeah yeah yeah I don't even know why they're not building like 500 square feet single efficiencies and like put a cap it's a $10 a square foot so it's $500 you got your shower, you got a little kitchen and you got a bed and if you're single or for whatever reason that's why they're not like built thousands of them you know they just keep raising the prices the soup is really good it should be most of it is organic I guess there's that farm I stopped by on my way here on Wednesday heads heads over fields they seem to be honest work there it's a bit pricey but hey they probably know they're not making killing eye that it's just farming is just the stuff it's restaurant business yeah farms especially just all got flooded too yeah yeah yeah depends where you are I heard a lot of farms had to like harvest everything it's probably also stressful too this year is stressful because restaurant is like a service like water like undemand at least mine you know so to be in that position that you are undemand middle class figured it out they all make it appointments you know you know they schedule it properly here it's like anybody can call anytime you can haircut you can get nobody takes walk-ins you know I'm saying you have to you have to schedule yourself yeah I know I feel like I can't remember last time so I guess that should be the next step of four corners everybody's gonna have to schedule themselves you have to schedule an appointment to come eat a sandwich yeah I have to order like at least couple of days ahead of time for a week ahead of time so I know what to get for the week ah anyway so gloom and doom we do have good flavors I think I have to go buy a pepper oh I love the peppers I do too I gotta buy the one right from the bottom but you weren't expecting it so it caught you no I wasn't last time I was here too you were talking about how everyone is like hopeful to make change when they're young and then we're all assholes why we're 50 but what if we're not would you call yourself an asshole well that's a good question that's a good question two different takeaways from the question like what if that didn't happen with our generation well the thing is I'm not in a position of power nobody depends on me but I guess bankers and politicians and people that make policies I don't make policies for anyone for that reason I don't even have pets I don't want anybody being captive I want time controlling pets I don't want to control that's why maybe I don't even have employees I don't want to control anybody so am I an asshole? I don't know I guess if I said that everybody's then I'm too I'm going to have to admit how does that demonstrate itself or how does that reveal itself do you think there's any chance that our generation could grow up to not be assholes well it's just the reality is set up and it kind of like forces you into that position well consider this so they wrote the bible it's a serious document it's a manual to our reality more or less so they made 10 commitments I just saw on instagram like a little joke that Moses walked out of the cave and had 19 commitments but he dropped one of the tablets he only had was left with two whatever those other nine were but these 10 commitments so such a thing is a man making love to somebody's wife is a mortal sin or what they call it it's a deadly sin but to write somebody back meaning to take advantage of somebody that's not a deadly sin so as soon as you're taking advantage of somebody because you size them up and you figure out they didn't grow up as sophisticated as you are they chip in their head it's not as fast as yours and you take advantage of them you're already an asshole that's true so how come the bible didn't make that a sin they were already taking advantage of people then there was hierarchy there is this queen in aristocracy seems like it's always been around even in Egypt so why that is not a sin to take advantage of another human being or for that matter of animals and everything else so where do you stop it because even if you take advantage of your dog you take advantage of the cows you melt them you eat them where do you stop it you answered my question or the question I'll take it so I guess they say hope is dying the last but somewhere once I read it's an interesting take on it that hope is tie in with fear so you can only be hopeful if you're already afraid of I hope I'll see you tomorrow that I'm actually saying I'm afraid I may not see you tomorrow you know what I'm saying it's an interesting explanation of yeah I haven't heard that of the whole thing but so yeah how about a generation do it I would like us to do it buy four corners and do it perfect okay is there anything you want to add before we have to run out I don't know we should probably call it I was going to slice some pickles or whatever there's other things I do here but maybe that's just good enough I got a few shots of you you can see which is the other day when I was here too got some of you layering pickles maybe you should I do have somebody did once she was in a college studying film and she made a little documentary we spent a little more time together I was totally exhausted I was still working 100 hours a week like she was making a shot and I was just planting something and I my fingernails were clean and I was showing her photography from my childhood and I see my fingernails there's black guy there I'm like oh my god this is not good whatever so now I'm a little I know it was a little bit not professional what we were doing like whatever my shirt was a little to the side they didn't correct me whatever you kind of have to make the person look the best they can looks great behind the counter let's hope let's hope people take this to their heart they will when to come to Four Corners