 Please stop eating. I hate it. I can hear it. I can hear you smack your god in my ear. I am a quiet eater. You're basically a walrus. What? If you were to actually get it, I'm Corbin. I'm Rick. And this is his solar flare. Please follow us on Instagram and Twitter. Thank you for watching. On Patreon, I follow my official Twitter account. And today we are doing a movie review. And this film has been requested since millennia. Long time. Long time. Really long time. Because it came out beginning of last year or maybe in 2018, I think. No, it came out because it could have been nominated for international film. Yeah, for the international film. And tons of people wanted it to be. Yeah, and they now are probably saying, see, told you. But obviously it's super deluxe. An unfaithful newlywed wife. An estranged father. A priest. Sounds like a good joke. Walk into a bar. And an angry son suddenly find themselves in the most unexpected predicaments. Each poised to experience their destiny. All on one fateful day. A lot going on. Yep. Obviously, which is what happened in the film. Starring our first VJ Sarapathy film. The huge mega star VJ Sarapathy. Say a couple of these names for me just so we can get them. Fahad Fasil. Samantha Ruth Prabhu. Ramya Krishan. Mishkin Kayathri. And Bhagavathi Perumal. Yeah, obviously this is a huge cast of characters. Obviously because they intertwined it was a very cast driven film. Obviously one person wasn't driving this film. It was just a ton of people. It was a very director driven medium in my opinion. Yeah. Which I was surprised by that. I didn't realize and maybe that's just for my own stupidity. I had thought the film was solely focused on VJ's. Yes. Gotcha. I thought it was just his story. I didn't realize it was basically like four stories happening at the same time. Absolutely. Yeah, which didn't bother me at all. It was just a pleasant surprise. Yeah. What were your initial thoughts Rick? Both really, really positive things to say. And then I have some really, really critique. I had some stuff about this movie that I think is brilliant. And I have stuff about this movie that I really don't like. So there's some of you who are going to be saying you completely agree with me. And then there's going to be others of you who are going to hate me when this is over. So just letting you know in advance. That's my takeaway from it. I have really strong feelings in opposite directions. Okay. We'll talk about it. Because I thoroughly enjoyed the entire thing. Really? Yeah. Everything about it. Almost everything about it. Yeah. We can talk about it. Because here it comes. Watch all the threads in the comments about how I'm different and I'm grumpy now. I think you weren't paying attention. Because if you look up for a second, if you look to text your phone, you are going to miss it. You're going to miss a lot of why certain things were there and you missed it. If I did, trust me. I'll tell you the things that I don't like about it. I'll explain and I'll tell you what I like about it. But I would like to start with the directing. I love the directing. That is one of my favorite things to talk about with this movie is the director. The director says his name for me. We didn't say his name. A little larger so I can make sure I pronounce it right. And I will butcher it. So forgive me. The origin. Comoraraja. Yeah, that's a tough one. I'm not going to attempt that. I liked his directing a lot. A lot. Because one of my favorite things about the movie. Obviously, you could tell he's a fan of Quentin. Not that he's trying to be Quentin. Great observation. I agree with you. You could tell he loves Quentin. One, he's a bunch of homages to Quentin in the entire film. That's in all sincerity. I don't want to say it's my favorite. It is. I have two things that are unquestionably my favorite things about this film. And one of them is the direction. I thought the direction was fantastic. Yeah. Directing was phenomenal. I loved everything he did. I love the shot, the cinematography in this. Whoever that is, we can say their names. Because man. They're off shot. And P.S. Vinod. It was so freaking... It was not hyper realistic, but it was more beautiful than real life. Which is how Quentin does it. Correct. Exactly. Great observation. And it was quirky without trying to be. You know what I mean? I didn't feel like this was a director trying to let people know what a quirky director I am. I got the feeling that this is just who this director is. And some of the shots were just great. The reason I like being surprised. And so he had a lot of shots that just surprised me. You'd be back behind a door post. And the guy is way down over there. Down over there. And that's where the scene is. But you're hearing different stuff along the sides. I like that a lot. The fact that it's just so... The shots, there's a bunch of people going on it. You're going between that door and that door. But you're all the way over here. And you're not really following them. Sometimes you're following them. Yeah. But it was fairly almost chaotic. Kind of like the story is supposed to be. But it all worked together very, very well. So I really enjoyed that part of it. Very original. Yeah. A lot of philosophical stuff in this that I really enjoyed. Not that I believe at all. It's just that I enjoy what his vision for this was that it's basic. Now, did he also write it? Yes. Yes, he did. Yes. Yeah. Which doesn't surprise me. No. Not at all. And I want to also talk maybe about your second favorite. I'm hoping is VJ Satapathi. Well, you know, my second favorite actually. I can list off my favorite things. I thought that the direction was fantastic and very original. Very different. In fact, if that's another takeaway I have from this is the uniqueness of this film. This is unlike any movie we've seen come out of India. Oh, yeah. Very original. Very, very unique. Very pulp fictiony. Very much. Because there's a bunch of stuff going on, different people that you follow. Correct. But it all comes together in the end. So that uniqueness, I thought the story, what was going on and what was being done premise-wise was, again, the word just kept coming to my mind. This is very unique. This is very original. As far as the acting is concerned, he was the best part of it for me. As far as the acting is concerned from everybody. Well, I thought he did really well. VJ Satapathi. I thought he did really, really well. I didn't recognize him at all. Not at all. Which was fantastic. It was really unique how they did it also. Especially when he was putting on the sorry. That was such an unflattering shot that the director decided to go with. Which was, I thought, a brilliant choice. Great. And I also found it compelling that the work he put into that, because I don't know how to put on a sorry, but it looked like he sure did. And I know those are not easy things to put on. But the girl who had the affair as well, I thought she did very, very well. I can't remember which one she was, though. The one who, by the way, spoilers, if you haven't seen the movie, were about to talk about stuff. All spoilers. Obviously. As usual. The girl who the movie starts off with at the beginning. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Her. Yeah. I liked her a lot. Her performance. Yes, a lot. She did very, very well. Okay. I just, I didn't. Why? What didn't you like about her? I, there were just many, many times I wasn't drawn in to her portrayal of the character. I thought she was pretty flat a lot of the time. Disagree wholeheartedly. Yeah. I think she did very, very well. I think actually, I mean, there weren't like amazing performances by all. I thought as well in terms of like, especially the kid, like the little young boys who were on the whole super bad track with the porn, which is basically, almost they were interacting super bad, which is one of the films they actually asked for at the beginning. They were almost to basically, I don't know if you've seen super bad. I hacked out super, super bad type scenarios as these kids. And I thought it was almost on purpose sometimes, like some of the, the crying in this. That was my biggest, I think it was on purpose. The forced fake sobbing. Yeah. I think it was on purpose. Every single one of them. Yeah. It was not supposed to be real. Also hers wasn't like when she was about to get raped. Oh, no, no, no. Hers wasn't. Yeah. Hers was phenomenal. But no, all those other ones. Yeah. And similar to how you love for some reason the acting and dev dots, but you don't like this. You don't understand. Well, that's a completely different. No, it's not. This is all acting. No, the approach to this is not the same as dev dots. You really think there was a thousand times better acting in this than there wasn't dev dots by everyone. I'm not talking about that. By everyone. You made the comparison to dev dots in terms of the acting. I think at certain points, he made them over, over emphasize the crying. That happens actually a lot in Indian cinema, the overacting crying, but I feel like that was on purpose in this. I think that's open to interpretation unless we hear it straight from the director. But as far as the comparison with dev dots, dev dots was definitively done in a theatrical way that was commiserate to stage acting. The totality of the ensemble stage acting, irrespective of whether you think it's good or bad director specifically articulated that the approach to single cast member in this film was to be umber theatrical like stage. Yeah, but it's still bad acting. Irrespective of it being good or bad, still bad acting. So in dev dots, you have that intentionality articulated by the director for all the world to see whether you like it or not is absolutely an opinion, which is fine. You didn't like it. I liked it. That's fine. This, I don't know that such an approach was done. We have yet to hear if that was the approach the director wanted to take. I did. It was definitively hodgepodge. And if it was, that would help me since it wasn't articulated and it's hodgepodge. And I saw moments where things were supposed to be believable for the majority of the time I felt. I thought that was my biggest thing. I had a really hard time with actors trying to cry who were not Quentin does the exact same thing in his films. He has never been an actor in a Quentin Tarantino film. I can show you. You fake cried so bad. I can show you in Django, my favorite Quentin film. When? When the racist, when they get beat up and they're crying. That is, oh, that digs the exact same style. When the racists get beat up and they're crying. When? When they're attacking him with a dog. Okay. But then after that, they get beat up by Django and then. Not even close to the fakery of the crying in this. Regardless, you can't destroy this whole film based on fake crying. So what else didn't you like? Go ahead. Okay. Do you love how he just said, you cannot destroy this whole film? When did I ever say I'm destroying this whole film? You didn't like the film, just like you didn't like Under Hunt Hunt because of piano. So that's why I'm asking, what else didn't you like? Okay. Don't say I don't like a film when I haven't said I don't, but it suddenly becomes. You've seen that review. Yeah. And look, I didn't bring up Under Hunt Hunt. I could bring up Under Hunt Hunt because I'm the one that liked it. So go on. What else didn't you like? Okay. I didn't like the thing I disliked the most was the message of the film. Why? What was wrong with the message? The basic bottom line message of this was coming from a almost nihilistic, subjective, relativistic worldview. What part of that didn't you like? That's his message that he wanted to get by. Correct. You don't have to agree with the message. No, but there's this duality that happens when you have a moral to the story. On the one hand, every director and artist and writer has the right to portray whatever they want to portray. And in that regard, I respect this writer and this director for sharing something from his vantage point that I believe he believes wholeheartedly. I really think that there's a message to the film and it's coming from his worldview. On the other hand, I think his worldview is incredibly dangerous. What? What's the worldview? Subjective relativism. What is it? There is no good and bad. It's all perspective. That's not... Okay. That is not the overall message that he was trying to convey. He sums it up at the end in the monologue that's happening in the porn theater by the guy on the movie screen. And one of the things among many he says that underscores this worldview is at the same time on earth, there's sunlight making day and there's evening on the other side. And neither one is good or bad. Hence, there is no good or evil. Things that used to be considered bad are now considered good. Good and bad has no moral absolute. It is purely based on subjective relativism. That is a scary perspective to have as your worldview. Oh, Jesus. He wasn't talking about like terrorism or rape. He's talking because there were these specific things that were happening in here. The kid who went apeshit because he wanted to kill his mother because he found her in a porn. Correct. That was once considered a taboo thing, the people in the porn industry. Like he said specifically in the film, people love watching porn but they demonize the person in the film. That was one. Right. Transgenders. Right. Obviously they're supremely discriminated against. And lots of people think they're just bad people and it's inhuman. Right. I know. And that is incorrect. And so it was once taboo and now it's not. Then you can get into other ones in terms of the... The one that you can... The affair is the one that you can get into. Certain people have a view of open relationships. That's their worldview. Don't really care. But that... Oh, I care. Yes. You could care but that doesn't make it ruin the film. Friends who... That is their worldview. And they live happily in relationships because they... Each person has agreed that that's how they think monogamy is not how they want to live their life. They're not enforcing it on you. They're just saying don't judge other people based on what they want. And the whole message of the film wasn't really that. It was that we're all one body and we work together as humans. And it all works together in a machine, basically. And so what happens over here affects what's over here, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And there was a lot of points in that. Like when the one shot, which was a brilliant shot in the film, which was the ants running up the wall. And it shows that humans are supposed to be the superior being. And they were in there griping about... I believe it was either the affair or the transgender woman. And we're over here griping about these minuscule things that shouldn't matter. But these thousands of thousands of ants can work together for the common good. And so that's really the whole point of the film, is to stop judging everyone. And also that's... I agree. Yeah. Based on what foundation for judgment is the point. That yes, don't judge. However, the worldview that's being propagated in the end, it's all tied up in that monologue. Example, porn as an example. The ending of it was, now let's enjoy watching, which has a comedic element to it. But tying that into everything else and giving the tying up his mother's involvement in porn basically was creating this element of if one person over there likes to watch pornography and that person over there doesn't like to watch pornography, that doesn't make pornography bad. For that person, pornography is good. For that person, pornography is bad. I'm here to tell you pornography is bad. It's objective. It's not subjective. You can't. That's one of my least favorite things anybody can do to a film is take your view of something and just be offended by what they said on the screen. It's their message. They're not telling you to do that. This is not the president. This is them telling you their story of what they wanted to convey. Well, I think it's more than them just telling you a particular story that they wanted to convey. I think he like a good, that seems from the direction style and from the screenwriting and like any filmmaker worth their weight is going to have a message. They want to get a message across that's going to create change. You don't think this director wants to create change in society with this film? Yeah. It doesn't mean you need to be offended by it. Why don't I have the right to say I understand you had... You can say that, but it doesn't mean you have to hate the film for it. Why do you, because I take acceptance of some things in a strong way, immediately summarize I hate the film? Because I can tell. I know you don't like a film. Your intuition of my responses is more accurate than my actual telling you what I think of a film. Yes. Great. I hope you keep that in the reaction. I will. Good. Because what you've just said is your opinion matters more than my truth of what I say. I can tell you don't like the film. You just said I hate the film. You said a moment ago you destroyed the film. I have mixed feelings about the film. If there's stuff about the film I really thought was brilliant and there's stuff about the film I take great exception to, which is actually... You're taking exception to just not the film itself. You're taking exception to your personal beliefs and that you don't like it. I hate that when people do that to film. So when you watch a film that has violence on dogs, I can get upset with you because you don't like it because it's a personal affront to you. And I can tell you, oh, Corbin, you're missing the point of the film. You're hung up on dogs. I would never get hung up on that. Oh, Corbin, are you that self-deceived that you wouldn't get hung up on a movie where the movie had throughout cruelty to dogs? That wouldn't get you... The story about the Chinese festival that they just kill a bunch of dogs and that's the story? No, I'm not a... That's the story they're trying to tell. I don't like it but doesn't mean I hate the film for it. I literally just told you you have the right to have that opinion but not to hate a film for it. Destroying it. I don't think you got the actual message of it. I think I did and I just don't like the message and that's okay. The same thing with the piano. You see something and then the film is kaput because of it. I didn't destroy it. Stop interrupting me because you're starting to piss me off. And please keep this in the reaction. Okay, go, go, Rick. You're not going to interrupt me, right? Can I talk now? Of course you can. It was the interrupting I didn't like. Are you going to stare at me? Are you just going to continue looking over there? No, I'm going to look wherever the hell I want to look. Let's be adults and talk about the film. I would like to do that. Okay, then stare at me, Rick. God, what are you doing? It's not that serious. If someone says I don't like yet food versus I hate that, they have meaning. Words have meaning. There's a reason they have meaning. What did you think about the alien, Rick? I loved the alien. You did? That was one of my favorite things. Why didn't you like the alien over other things? Because it was so original. It was so weird. But that was part of the overall message. I thought that would be a part you didn't like. Why? Just because it was out of the blue. I don't have a problem with things. I love things that are random. Are you kidding me? I love random. Why do you think I like Nacho Libre and Napoleon Dynamite? There's so many random, non-sequitur stuff that just makes no sense. I thought you wouldn't like that one. I found the introduction of the alien was where I started to get really engaged. I enjoyed the alien part because there was a setup for the alien. I don't know if you caught it in the film. Really? Yeah, there was a setup. On the TV, when the family was over, when they were hiding the guy in the fridge. Really? Yeah, on the TV, you could hear it say and it did on the subs. It said, what was it? The aliens? We're not sure if they're still more aliens or if they've all left yet. On the TV. A news anchor said that. Wow. Now did you pick up on that? So you were expecting it or you realized it after they dropped the alien on you? No, my wife watched it with me and she saw that on the screen when it went by. She's like, did they just say there was aliens and they all left? Wow. I was so focused on what they were going to do with the dead body in the refrigerator that I didn't even pick up on it. Yeah, she's good at picking up stuff. But yeah, the alien, but I thought it was really unique because one, it went with the overall message of, I like that it didn't explain the alien. Me too, because it wasn't like the story came out of like, they didn't have to explain like where this person alien came from. They were just like, aliens are among us. Right. I love that. Out of nowhere. Just so you know that the aliens are among us. Also, don't judge them as well. Or the clones. Yeah, don't judge the clones either. So it's basically an overall message of you don't know what's going on and there's aliens just letting you know that there's aliens. Here's something. I didn't think there was a funny, rocky whore. I thought there was a rocky whore tie in almost. I don't know if you remember Rocky whore because it's all a bunch of aliens. Right. They all want to have sex. Right. All the time. All the time. I thought this director saw Rocky whore. Yeah, that's a good point. That's a very good point. And here's something as far as his portrayal, VG's portrayal in that character. Did you, first of all... Of the alien? No, no, no, no. I'm switching over to something you said that triggered me to that. I found, yes, like any portrayal, very hard to watch some of those scenes where he, when he's being called it. Yeah. A lot of his scenes were, I mean, obviously with the inspector scenes. Some of my favorite scenes. The inspector scenes were just brutal. As was, oh my goodness, can I just tell you, this is, I just, when, I laughed out loud when the guy died from the TV hitting him in the head. Oh yeah. I thought that was phenomenal writing a director. I thought it was a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, great title. Everybody. And I knew it would hit him, obviously. But I then wanted her to leave. Oh, nothing. And keep him handcuffed to the car. Oh yeah. I was like, why are you staying with him? He was completely okay with selling you off to this guy so that you go and walk free. She probably felt bad also because she did cheat on him multiple times. Maybe that's a justification for it. I think, because they're both pretty terrible people. That's true. I think that's why. That's a justification. One thing if she was like, he cheated on her and she was basically letting her, she felt bad. But I think since she was basically the one that cheated on him, apparently a lot of times. I think it was his intention. Even if it was, it worked. That lasted, the drag out of, is he going to have sex with her? Is this creepy cop going to do this to this poor girl? And I agree with you. When I was disengaged with her was when she was in the car and he was fake crying. Although I did really enjoy it. I was engaged with her in that moment. I did really enjoy his acting scene though. Who's when they're in the car and she said pretend to act. When she said pretend I'm one of your friends. I thought it was hilarious when he was just talking. They didn't even laugh. I thoroughly enjoyed a lot of this because of how dark comedy a lot of it was. It was a lot of scenarios similar to Quentin's scenarios where these are scenarios you probably shouldn't be laughing at. But you are. Yes. Which is something I really, really enjoy. I also ridiculously enjoyed all of the Star Wars references in this film. And I have a question for you now in light of this and in light of what we know the Oscars have done. We've seen Dully Boy. We've seen Super Deluxe which pretty much that's been the argument the whole time from everybody. When Dully Boy was the choice the Super Deluxe people were like screaming. Now that you've seen both which of the two would you have chosen for the submission? Obviously we know that Dully Boy has not been chosen. It's not on the short list. Correct. And if you didn't know that the short list Oscars released Dully Boy is not going to be nominated. Yeah. Obviously this one. My answer is going to surprise you. Obviously this one I think has more artistic merit in terms of how well it was done. Did you hear I just said agreed? Yeah I did. But I still think our views of why Dully Boy was nominated was the correct choice. It is the correct and that's based on our understanding of the way the politics work with the academy. I still think they made a mistake. With the academy. Agreed. But taking what we know about the politics aside. Let's say you and I are academy members and we're looking at what India is presenting to us and we've watched these two films and we have to select one of these two films as the submission for India. Of the two based on the artistic merits. Which of the two would you select? Irrespective of name attachment, irrespective of petitioning, drawing attention to box office. Pure artistic merit. Which of the two would you choose and select? Super Dully Boy. As would I. Yeah. I mean it has more. I would much prefer Dully Boy. A hundred times out of a hundred you say you want to pick Dully Boy or Super Deluxe. I'm watching Dully Boy. Depends on my mood. Yeah. For me it's pretty much all the time. Yeah. However, I recognize as much as I didn't like some of the acting especially the savan. Which if it turns out that was an intentionality and I just missed that I'm open to being corrected. Like I was obviously with Ranbir. I came in with a presupposition at Ranbir and Barfi and I've watched it three or four times and now realize I was completely wrong with that. And as much as I don't like what I believe is the moral message of the film. What I appreciate. I feel this way with Quinton a lot. Because there's a lot of stuff that Quinton talked Quinton himself. I'm not a big Quinton fan personally. I like these one of my favorites. Yeah. I know. I'm not a big person. There's a lot of things I've heard Quinton said. I'm like wow. You're a dick. Oh he is. Yeah. And again going back to Sasha Baron Cohen. I have great respect for people whose artistry is one that I personally find repugnant or dislike. But I recognize that that was for me. It's the writing and the directing for this. It's so original. It's so outside the box. I feel like this was done in a way where the director and the writer was saying I have a message I want to say and I want to say it this way and I don't care what anybody thinks about it. Hats off to you for that. That is an artist. Yeah. And I think I heard something about the director that this is maybe his like second film. And I think this would have had potentially, I don't know. It's really interesting to see. I'd love to talk to Academy members who have seen Super Deluxe and if they would say the same thing. I think they might. I think they might. This is his second directorial debut. Shut up. Yeah. He's directed and wrote one thing in 10 and then he was a writer, writer, special thanks, lyrics and then he directed Super Deluxe and yeah. Wow. It's quite impressive. The fact that it's only a second film. Yeah. Because there's a level of art. There's a level of maturity in the world. Also, there was a bond obviously we didn't talk about but like I loved all the. And yes, ultimately I didn't like the punches that he took at politics, religion, just people in general. Like the fact that you know this got this the father of the kid who stabbed himself which was great. I loved that he stabbed himself because it threw me off. I thought he was going to kill his mom. I thought he was going to kill his mom too. I was like holy cow. Yeah. But the priest guy who I think was against, he was denying it and then he kept praying and praying and nothing, nothing happened. Yeah. The one who was saved from the tsunami. And he finally destroyed it and then he got what he was looking for. So after he destroyed it so obviously but then the wife said, she's like I don't believe in God but I was praying and you came with the diamond. So what does that mean? Right. And so it was like he was basically saying religion is stupid and that religion is real. That his whole thing about you don't know what's going on. Almost nobody does. Yes. Basically it was it reminds me everything on its head. It reminds me a little bit. This is going to be a strange comparison potentially but one of my favorite things about PK was the way that PK so innocently is looking at what are the apparent contradictions and people just believing something just because they believe it without substantiations and he did that in an extremely intelligent way and that's one of the things I did like about the script was his presenting something of oh really so therefore you believe that's true just because it agrees with your presupposition about your experience which is an interesting almost contradiction. I think that's one of the things I like it is a walking contradiction saying basically everything is everything and nothing is nothing. That's where I draw the line. And it's a disagreement. We can agree to disagree. I believe in objective reality irrespective of subjective perception. I don't believe this artist thinks that he's entitled to that. I don't resonate with that I'm with you you know we basically believe the exact same thing but it doesn't bother me that I have to watch something that I don't agree with. The reason it bothers me is because for me I know that this has that's the power of film. Film has the power to shape minds in ways no other medium has and this has the capacity to take people down a path of subjective relativism which is a dangerous place to go when you meet head-on objective reality. I don't. I don't agree films do that. Oh they do. We don't have to get into that. Art can change the world. Oh I agree. But also I don't blame films for what people do. Not blaming the film people have personal responsibility but there is a level of contribution that's powerfully shaping in the mind of people that leads them to their behaviors when they live in a world that isn't helping shape them in the direction that would be healthy. I really do. Hence like porn is bad period. That's a note you want to end on? No. If we're if we're ending on a note people have commented on this before is they like how you and I in one reaction will go head-to-head and be really pissed off with each other. You guys haven't seen the Oscars yet. But if there is a takeaway I do love the fact that you and I can get so passionate about something and think the other person is a complete blithering idiot. But I know. But we always end back up into a place of porn is bad.